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RECENT LETTER TO IRISH PAPAL NUNCIO.

Okolo

THE ORATORY

Princes Gardens,

Larne.

Co. Antrim.

N. Ireland.

BT401RQ

0044 2828 260137

0044 7488 374364

18th June 2021

HE Archbishop Jude T. Okolo

Apostolic Nuncio to​ Ireland

183 Navan Road, Dublin 7

Republic of Ireland

Via E-mail: na.ireland@diplomat.va and hardcopy.

Ref: Rt. Rev’d Dom Richard Purcell, OCSO.

Your Excellency,

Respectfully, I direct your attention to the affidavit annexed to the present sworn before a Co. Antrim-based notary public. Therein, a number of allegations of sexual misconduct are averred against the current Abbot and Ordinary of Mount Melleray Abbey, the Rt. Rev’d Dom Richard Purcell, OCSO. During my seminary formation in Waterford, I visited Mount Melleray Abbey on several occasions. It is a place that is deeply close to my heart, and indeed the hearts of a great number of people in Ireland. It is a monastery founded during the persecution of the church in France that has been a source of immeasurable spiritual succour to a multitude of faithful both in Ireland, and across the globe. It gives me no pleasure whatsoever to be writing this letter; it is, in fact, a source of considerable personal sadness.

The Known Misconduct of Richard Purcell.

People active on the Irish gay scene have confirmed to me that Dom Richard Purcell is well-known and has been active on the gay scene for a considerable amount of time. In order to contextualise the present, before these allegations started appearing on my Blog, which led to Dom Richard Purcell changing the privacy settings for his Facebook profile; it was clear that a number of his “friends” were quite active on the Dublin gay scene. As a homosexual man in a civil partnership, who actively ministers to the gay community in Ireland and Northern Ireland, I found this a most surprising characteristic for a Cistercian monk.

Within the affidavit, it is stated that a former priest of the Diocese of Killaloe acknowledged to another priest that he had consensual anal sex with Dom Richard Purcell in the monastic guesthouse of Mount St. Joseph Abbey. In the initial e-mail that I received from another priest of the Diocese of Killaloe reference is made to the fact that Richard Purcell “pounced” on a younger man while visiting “The Boilerhouse”[1] who positively indicated that he was receptive to anal sex. For the avoidance of any and all doubt the said sexual act was consensual. But, the affidavit does not address the significant detail that the younger man who was the recipient of Purcell’s engorged penis after the act recognised Dom Purcell from a retreat that Purcell had led when the recipient was a seminarian in Maynooth.

The indifference of the Abbot General, Dom Eamon Fitzgerald.

As avowed, it is indisputable that these allegations of Purcell’s sexual misconduct were previously known to the incumbent Abbot General of the Cistercians, Rt. Rev’d Dom Eamon Fitzgerald OCSO. His comment to me on the telephone that [the Cistercians] they were hoping that the event in Roscrea was a one-off evidences the wilful complicity of Dom Eamon Fitzgerald in the on-going cover-up of Dom Richard Purcell’s wholly unacceptable behaviour.

It would be churlish and imprudent for Dom Fitzgerald to deny what was expressed within our conversation – as telephone recording technology is now mainstream. However, for the time being, the motivation(s) of the Abbot General of the Cistercians, Dom Fitzgerald, in this matter remains arcane.

Obviously, these events raise serious questions about the judgement and the integrity of the Abbot General of the Order of Cistercians of the Strict Observance and by extension; it raises questions about the governance of the congregation.

By the present, I wish to apprise you that Dom Eamon Fitzgerald upon his election as Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey, appointed Fr. John Gerard McCallion as the novice master of the aforesaid community. It is not unreasonable to presume the appointment was made by Dom Fitzgerald with the knowledge that Fr. McCallion had been ordered to return to Mount Melleray Abbey having been found in bed with a ten-year-old girl by the then parish priest of Creggan, city of Derry, Fr. Francis Lagan, who subsequently was appointed an Auxiliary Bishop of Derry.

The said same McCallion pleaded guilty on January 25, 1996 to nine (9) charges of indecent assault on three (3) primary schoolgirls in Northern Ireland while ministering as a priest in the city of Derry between May 1987 and August 1988. McCallion was described by the judge as a “sexual parasite” was sentenced to two (2) years imprisonment as a result of his guilty plea. Less than two (2) later on November 28, 1997, McCallion was given a suspended sentence of eighteen (18) months as a result of admitting four separate occasions of indecent assault on a young woman in her hospital bed after a charge of rape was dropped.

Fast forward to December 9, 2014, The Belfast Telegraph reported that McCallion who at that time had fourteen convictions for offences involving children was facing three (3) further charges of indecently assaulting a boy, and one (1) charge of committing an act of gross indecency. When the prosecutors offered no evidence, the judge directed a not guilty verdict.

Thus, rightly or wrongly, it is legitimate to infer that Dom Eamon Fitzgerald is comfortable with the sexual misconduct that is contrary to the expected and vowed behaviour of any Cistercian monk.

The Cover-up Merchant, Dom Brendan Coffey, OSB.

The website of the Congregation of the Annunciation, officially records that the Abbot of the Glenstal Abbey, the Rt. Rev’d Brendan Coffey, OSB is the safeguarding co-ordinator of the aforesaid congregation. Glenstal Abbey, is also renowned for its boarding school.

When credible allegations of sexual misconduct were made against the founding Prior of Silverstream Priory, Dom Mark Kirby, the bishop of the Diocese of Meath, Thomas Deenihan ordered an Apostolic Visitation. Two (2) the three (3) of the people appointed to conduct the visitation by Bishop Deenihan were monks: a) Dom Brendan Coffey, OSB of Glenstal Abbey; and, b) Dom Richard Purcell, OCSO, of Mount Melleray Abbey.

During the period in which the visitation of Silverstream Priory took place information was provided to me by a number of priests about Silverstream Priory. Of course, around that time, I had received further information about the sexual misbehaviour of Dom Richard Purcell. But, in the paranoid and intellectually indolent mind of Dom Brendan Coffey, he conflated a number of events about Silverstream, Richard Purcell and my blog without a scintilla of justification. And, as a result of same, in an act of incomparable stupidity; he requested from the whistle-blower Dom Xxxxx Xxxxxat Silverstream Priory an exculpatory statement on behalf, and to the benefit of Dom Richard Purcell.

Let us look at this objectively and dispassionately. It is inconceivable and unjustifiable that Abbot Brendan Coffey, OSB, (with a background in Canon Law) a monk of a Benedictine Congregation with the school was seeking an exculpatory statement for the benefit of Abbot Richard Purcell (accused of serious misconduct) from another monk, Xxxxxx xxxxxx who had been the recipient of unwanted sexualised behaviour from Dom Mark Kirby with the approbation/approval of Bishop Thomas Deenihan. All of this was taking place while the complaints made by the whistle-blower at Silverstream were referred to and investigated by An Garda Síochána. It is utterly perverse.

Potential Implications.

​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ A number of months have now passed since the allegations made against Dom Richard Purcell first appeared on my blog. In that time, a number of concerned people have instructed lawyers, a Rome-based Rotal Advocate, and engaged the services of a Dublin-based Senior Counsel; a leading junior in criminal law who will probably take Silk next year to ensure that what has happened at Mount Melleray Abbey is exposed. This has the potential to create grave scandal both in the biblical sense and, it will further traduce the good standing of the church in the mind of the Irish people.

It would behove everybody involved to examine their conscience. A positive first step would be for Dom Richard Purcell to resign and/or step aside while these allegations are investigated. Under no circumstances should Dom Brendan Coffey be permitted to continue as the safeguarding co-ordinator for the Congregation of the Annunciation. In fact, I would respectfully submit his position as the abbot of Glenstal Abbey is completely untenable; hence, he should consider submitting his resignation.

Of course, I anticipate that people will attempt to undermine the contents of the present by highlighting that I am a schismatic bishop. However, the harsh reality is I have a demonstrable track record in calling out clerical recidivism and wrong-doing in the Irish church. If there was anything untrue in the allegations I have made against Dom Richard Purcell and/or Dom Brendan Coffey both of them would be more than welcome to issue proceedings against me; but they have not done so because they know what I write on my blog is true, and more importantly evidenced-based.​

Furthermore, the fact that I have attested to the facts within an affidavit that is replete with supporting evidence as a citizen should not be dismissed. Indeed, the church would be very foolish to ignore the contents of the affidavit, because I can assure you what is coming afterwards will be far more damaging and toxic.

Conclusion.

As a fair-minded and reasonable individual I am sending you a copy of this letter as a PDF, which will be followed-up by a signed hardcopy. It is my intention to publish a copy of same on my blog, however, I will not do so — if I receive a request from the Nunciature not to publish same.

The future of the Irish Cistercians is far too important to permit inaction. To this extent, I respectfully request that you transmit a copy of this letter and the attached affidavit to the Secretariat of State of the Holy See with a request that this matter is brought to the attention of, HE João Card. Braz de Aviz the Prefect of the competent Dicastery. I further request that the Dicastery launch an immediate investigation into these allegations, and an important positive first step would be the appointment of an individual by a Decree authorised to conduct an investigation into these allegations in accordance with the dictates of Canon Law, cf Canon 1717, and the law proper of the Order of the Cistercians of the Strict Observance. If, Dom Richard Purcell, OCSO, refuses to step aside, the Dicastery can be invited to render a Decree forcing the imposition of an interim superior on Mount Melleray Abbey, and/or an apostolic administrator for a period of eighteen (18) months.

An important further step would be for the Dicastery to write to the Ordinary of the Diocese of Waterford requesting the peremptory suspension of the faculties of Dom Richard Purcell to minister in that canonical territory.

Respectfully, in Christ, I remain,

Most sincerely yours,

+Patrick Buckley

Presiding Bishop

The Oratory Society


[1]“TheBoilerhouse”, a Dublin-based gay sauna for men only aged over the age of (18) eighteen. According to its website: “The building consists of five rooms consisting of a dry sauna, Jacuzzi, steam-rooms, play areas and private rooms”. https://www.the-boilerhouse.com. Accessed: June 18, 2021.

PAT SAYS

As I knew I would get no response I deliberately sent my letter in a way it had to be signed for. It wouldnt be the forst time they claimed notbto getca letter. They got mine.

My purpose was not to get a meaningless reply from purposeless individual.

My purpose was to make sure the things I wanted to say were firmly on record. Now they are.

The letter was sent with a ten-page affidavit notarised by a duly appointed notary.

I have been advised not to place that affidavit on this blog.

Bit it was emailed to every serving Irish RC bishop in time for their June meeting earlier this month.

Again I wanted people not to be able to say they did not know about the very serious situation I was addressing.

I am not expecting the RCC to do anything about this latter.

This is simply a step in arranging for sources outside the RCC to act in the future.

Having said that a copy of my affidavit is being delivered by hand to the relevant Vatican office.

148 replies on “RECENT LETTER TO IRISH PAPAL NUNCIO.”

Not replying to that is odd. The classic Roman move would be to acknowledge it then say he can’t do anything if the matter is in the hands of the Rota.
If this means the entire episcopate has gone into hush up mode, that bodes well for lots more scandals in the future.

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Pat, how much did it cost you for the legal services received in writing this letter to the Nuncio? Was the legal advice and the wording of the letter – all legalese – expensive? It is very comprehensive. It will be interesting to see what respinse you’ll receive. Well done.

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The costs for all of this are being looked after by long term friends of Mount Mellary. I have no knowledge of the costs.

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When I get me compo, luv, I’ll set up a pot for this sort of thing. Seriously! I’m looking forward to doing the Lord’s work, no two ways about it.
Anybody who comes forward will have a barrister on standby – please God, please Lord X

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Not relevant to current blog, but worthwhile for cathbots to wonder about.
Public representatives are asking for prayers that they’ll find more survivors in the collapsed ruins of the Florida collapsed building. Is this typical southern USA “religion and faith?”
Why aren’t they calling out this despicable God who caused the collapse in first place?
Or is that too simple an approach 🤔
Arragh but shure God moves in mysterious ways!
MMM

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You are correct it is not relevant to the current post. But since you have brought it up, here are a few points. This disaster has nothing to do with God. It has been reported that that some years ago this building was declared unsafe because of water at the base. If true this is human negligence. I am sure that there will be an enquiry and all the facts will be out.
I do respect and agree with your comments about social work(ers). You are more expert on such matters than most on this blog.
Garngad Lad

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To A@ 10:36
But I was told by the religion teacher at school that God was the Prime Mover responsible for all creation and everything in it? Was I taught wrong stuff?

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3.13
‘Prime mover’ implies ‘secondary mover’ ; in this case, possibly human error.

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Recent reports suggest that the collapse may have been contributed to by repeated flooding and that the building has been sinking for some years. So it was the result of building it somewhere that was vulnerable to flooding.
The question of why an all compassionate and omnipotent deity didn’t intervene is a whole different ballgame.

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Calling out G*d would be a typical Evangelical American approach to the tragedy. Personally I think the builders would be the obvious people to look at first. If they’ve built it in a place which wasn’t safe or in a way that wasn’t safe, no amount of faith would hold it up.

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11.58: MMM – you are being ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. This apartment block has had foundational trouble for years. Water problems in the foubdations weakened the structures…thus the horrible tragedy. Human error, dear Mournful Mick. Can we blame GOD that you are an atheist? Or a cynic? Or that you were part of a “service” – social workers – whose negligence in Britian and Ireland caused untold hurt, pain and misery for thousands of families? Hmmmm….God is to blame, no doubt! For he “didn’t stop” you in making recklessly poor judgment!! Yes, indeed, poor GOD gets blamed for all tragedies. Human iresponsibilities and human errors cause much harm, destruction, pain and death.

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Not YOU again? Having your usual dig at somebody while failing to see the underlying issue.
Anon 6:10’s second paragraph spells it out for you, ….and other ‘slow learners’.

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+Pat, an amazing letter. I am so sad this has befallen Mount Melleray. The behaviour of the Abbot of Glenstal is shocking.
Hard questions now need to be asked of the Bishop of Waterford.

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Do any of you cathbots ever consider the relevance of discoveries like that of current evidence for Dragoman, another hominid very closely related to we currently dominant human species?
The puerile nature of traditional RCC teachings and its simplistic static perspectives are a source of wonderment: that so many cling onto its dogmas.
Is an understanding of emotional and psychological imperatives necessary to provide any perspective.
MMM

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11.58, 12.40, You’re normally so on the ball. Are you sure you need a “God” to do us all in? As for Mr Dragoman, you’ve lost me there. Are you talking about traditional Irish teachings? This is a blog with international participation. Some of us see a stronger case than that against the Vatican City. Ask the orientals about Asian hating.

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Anon 11:47, a species of ancient human discovered in China may replace Neanderthals as our closest relative. Dubbed Homo longi or “Dragon Man”, the species was identified from a skull fossil.

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Michael & Seamus, yes we knew who Michael was talking about. Neanderthal & Denisova clans are our brothers not cousins. (Typical “othering” by the Communist Party.) I was only querying the problem Michael (perhaps momentarily) had with these being mixed up in a specifically Hibernian variant of “church doctrine”.

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Cathxxx is a derogatory word MMM. It’s the first sign that you are not really interested in a proper conversation. Are you going to read about the 7 reasons I suggested over a week ago or have you done so already?

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At 4.20, Seamus couldn’t lead anyone anywhere…except in circles.
You’re a dog chasing its tail, Seamus, and you’d have everyone else on the blog doing likewise. 😅😅

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Anon 4:57, you’ve gotten your socks in a twist and you seem to be stuck in a circle of fire. 🔥 There is a seed of truth waiting to grow. It is patient. When you are ready to step out of the circle, the seed of truth will grow and the truth will set you free.
PAX

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At 5.52, mixed imagery there, Seamus, in your first sentence. Twisted socks and circle of fire?? We don’t know what you’re trying to say. Do you?

What have twisted socks to do with stepping out of a circle of fire?

Where are you, Seamus?

Seamus?!

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@5.54, why should anyone take the trouble to read about the so-called ‘Afterlife’ anything recommended by you, Seamus? You’ve hardly distinguished yourself intellectually on the blog, and this much is being charitable.
I could give you many more reasons for NOT believing in the ‘Afterlife’.

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Oh, look at you Anon 6:15 using the royal ‘we’!
The English royal we, or pluralis majestatis, dates to the late twelfth century, around the time of Henry II and his successor Richard I, and meant “God and I,” invoking the divine right of kings. It has since come to be understood that a monarch using the royal we is speaking for the state.
You’re in some state alright Anon 6:15! 😉

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Anon 6:21, I can lead my fellow comment makers to books but I can’t make them read. MMM engaged in a conversation about what is right. It is something beyond you. Don’t worry about it! 😉

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At 6.36, you’re trying to deflect from your embarrassment and stupidity, Seamus, and you’re making yourself look even more stupid.
What have twisted socks and a circle of fire to do with each other.
Are you schizophenic, Seamus? Your muddled, disjointed and rambling prose suggests it.

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Pat, can you not block this Seamus prat? He’s distracting everyone from the blog topic. This is probably his purpose.

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Seamus we are all aware now that when you talk about what is right you always mean your own opinion. You then use a random scriptural passage to buttress this. The passage will bear no relation to what you are trying to talk about and when people tell you this you just keep on repeating what you said to start off with. You then return to the subject several days or weeks later.
This is why nobody engages you in a conversation.
Ask your carer to direct you towards a biblical commentary.

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I agree with 7.19.
‘Seamus’ is very obviously a troll, with one purpose: to deflect the blog from its scrutiny of the Roman Catholic institutional church; and he is succeeding. For this reason, I no longer engage with him or her.

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Oh, here we go! Anon 7:19 and MC 7:31 feel a bit of heat. They go cribbing to Bishop Pat; Oh Bishop Pat come to our aid! Oh Bishop Pat make haste to save us from a conversation about what is right!
MMM posted off topic. I have humbly responded within that sub-thread. I have respectfully kept away from the other sub-threads out of respect for those who wish to discuss the blog topic of the day.
Anon 7:19 and MC 7:31 are the typical example of putting 2 and 2 together, and getting 5!
Pax vobiscum! ☮️

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Seamus at 7.52 is rattled and worried that he is going to get the boot from the blog.

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12.22 and 4.20 Seamus please can you update us on your views whether toying with those seen as social inferiors has to be “understood” as “vocational anxiety” i.e fear that one isn’t a priest any more precisely because clergydom is “desserts”? This “slip” didn’t come over tactful.
It’s kindly of you to offer Michael literature on Seven Reasons, now please leave him in his own time to see whether that text makes sense for him.

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Mmm
Second post in a row in which you refer to Catholics by a derogatory term.

At one stage you decried the use of female names for male church persons.

Just one of the inconsistencies to be noted in your contributions.

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Yes, entirely descriptive.
What other way is there to tell the plain truth about Catholics who uncritically follow the dictates of priests?

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In charity your fellow readers are giving you an opportunity to gain insight, Seamus. Just like when a judge tells a priest he is going to prison. No socks are twisted.

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Seamus is in the very-slow-learning stream.
In charity, give him time to understand. Give him lots of time.

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OK 7:07 I’ll give him lots of time. About a decade should be enough.
Someone claims he is a Benedictine, which I find difficult to believe. Standards must really be slipping if the order that produced Mabillon and Gueranger have taken in Seamus.

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Cover it up. Keep schtum. Exercise omertà. That’s what they do so well. As each day passes, their filthy secrets come out. Shock. Horror ! Sure these are holy men of God. They are in my puff. They are just members of a large business that uses Christ as a cover for their nefarious deeds. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at the bishops conference following receipt of your letter. They will be more angry at Purcell and co getting caught than anything else. Pack of non Christian despots who continue to fool people

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“The Boilerhouse”… According to its website: “The building consists of five rooms consisting of a dry sauna, Jacuzzi, steam-rooms, play areas and private rooms”….
— “In The Boilerhouse there are many rooms; if it were not so, Dom Purcell would not have told you so.” 😂

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It was a long letter to be fair. A lot to respond to, although he should have provided you with the courtesy of a holding letter. I imagine Rawhide has little to fear as they will cover for him.

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8.26

If the Romanists won’t do justice and compassion when it comes to the rape or sodomisation of children, then not having the good manners to issue holding letters is hardly going to trouble them.

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I am beginning to have some sympathy for the sedevacantist point of view that the whole exercise of authority in the modern church is a deliberate attempt to run it into the ground. Their conspiracy theories about Freemasons tend to blow it into crazy territory though.
When a religious order elects a superior, there are things they can do if there isn’t anyone suitable. For monasteries this means having a monk of another monastery appointed, but if a monastery is so weak it can’t elect an abbot it is dying.
If they elect someone and then find out he’s not living his vows the community can do things, including bailing out.
If they knowingly elect someone who isn’t living his vows, or even committing crime, then the monastery really should be closed. In England Ealing Abbey and Buckfast Abbey both elected an abbot since convicted of paedophilia. If either of these communities didn’t have some suspicion about these men when electing them I will eat my hat.
The whole thing is rotten and, ultimately, in its death throes.

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As regards to yesterday’s blog, I was but disturbed by the fact that Fr Walsh stayed at mt Melleray once. It led me to wonder and ponder another question,

Did any other abusers stayed apart from Tony Walsh at Melleray over the years? It seems to me that it might be a safe house for any rcc abusers to hide there until it blows over with.

Today blog, rcc heads or bigwigs were using their omerta’ a code of silence’ cos no response from the following bishops/abbot in a position of power and control-
1. Eamonn Fitzgerald
2. Phonsie
3. Dom Coffey of Glenstal
4. Father superior of immediate house of OSCO?
5. Nuncio Okolo.
6. Irish Bishops conference.

When will the Rota tribunal/court answer to your claims on the issue of governance and also Purcell as well or investigate this case?

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That Walsh ex-priest is a real nasty piece of work, unfortunately the chance of rehabilitation is very hard to imagine here.
Remember: even paedophiles deserve a chance, everybody does; however, Tony Walsh is a very dangerous predator and kids are not safe with regards to him.
— He even has his own WiKipedia page.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Walsh_(priest) .
— An excerpt for the above WiKipedia link:
“Fr Tony Walsh is probably the most notorious child sexual abuser to have come to the attention of the Commission [Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse CICA]. His pattern of behaviour is such that it is likely that he has abused hundreds of children.”
Darren McGaven is a survivor of Tony Walsh’s, and here he gives an account of the crimes of Tony Walsh and how they have effected him – McGaven is now a therapist who supports other victims of similar hurtful crimes. Facebook link below. – Please note: this video is a little upsetting.https://www.facebook.com/euronews/videos/sins-of-the-fathers-irelands-sex-abuse-survivors/818603882327036/

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No there will be NO action taken as it is all hear say and the Guys from the “alleged ” Boiler house have all come forward Pat’s affidavit is only saying what he has been told however the Nuncio needs them to come forward.
It is a Criminal offensive to threaten someone by placing them in fear and alarm and more so if a Diplomat in Ireland or Great Britain.
” I can assure you what is coming afterwards will be far more damaging and toxic”. so is it physical damaging to the nuncio or is it phycology damage to the Nuncio.
If Pat’s QC is taking silk he should have advised pat no threats he would be better taking cotton.
His Lordships Bishop Cullinan and Bishop Deenihan have nothing to fear from the Holy See if anything promotion.
Abbot Brendan and Dom Purcell Purcell again have no fear.
Monsignor Francisco who opens all correspondence by post and emails to the Papal Nuncio has been told just mark noted and the Bishops of the Irish Conference of Ireland and the UK have said likewise just mark noted and that is after advice from the Roman Rota.
Pat’s and Robert’s legal team should advise them are the informers willing to come forward and the answer so far is “they have told us” so it is all hearsay.
The Church is not going to waste time and money on ifs and buts.
This will run on this blog for the next decade however the threat to a Papal Ambassador is not being taken lightly.
” I can assure you what is coming afterwards will be far more damaging and toxic” and the Bishop of Killaloe has received similar and the security has been stepped up.
YOU NEED FACTS NOT WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU AND I AM GOING TO BE THE NEXT POPE YOU SEEN IT ON PAT’S BLOG

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It’s hard to properly focus on the facts when people are suppressed and victims silenced. In these instances, what people say must be taken with some aspect of seriousness; where there’s smoke there’s usually a fire.

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What can the civil law do though? Even if he has been doing guys raw in the Boilerhouse sling what civil laws have been broken? As for predatory … well these places are full of old predators trying their luck. A ‘feck off’ does the trick, or laugh at their flaccid member and tell them it wouldn’t satisfy. The man sounds as though he has no moral compass but that is a matter for ecclesiastical authorities.

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Civil Law can do nothing at all as only Pat know’s the alleged participants and Dom Robert has said it is not true and NO one can go on hearsay evidence.
Pat has now threatened the Papal Nuncio and that is Criminal placing Archbishop Okolo in fear and alarm and Yvonne tried the same with Bishop Monahan and she continues to email and advised not to so that is again Criminal behaviour for harassment.
” I can assure you what is coming afterwards will be far more damaging and toxic” so what is coming down the like surely not toxic liquid or property damaging we are on alert.

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Totally classic church reply that when someone tells you this kind of thing try to make out you’re threatening them….
… with the consequences of their own inaction.
You actually couldn’t make these clowns up. Tell you what, 12:12, since you want to make that comment out to be criminal, try reporting it to the police and pop back here to tell us their response.

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Don’t be daft. Diplomats are used to dealing with a crisis as well as political threats. I guess there is the offence of recklessly endangering others by not informing a sexual partner of an HIV diagnosis but then I guess Abbot Rawhide wouldn’t take responsibility for his own sexual health.

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Patsie dearest. Focus more on your own Catholic Church branch and leave the RCC alone. You will make yourself ill with all the stress!

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MMM…Always come to life after a few….and can never resist his gleeful cynicism. Can you, MMM, focus on the issues of today’s blog? A good letter to the Nuncio. The response will be interesting. Probably an acknowledgement but no in-depth response.

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The fact that Walsh was at Mount Melleray is troubling. However, it is not as troubling as the allegations in this excellent letter.

I am astounded by the alleged actions of Abbot Brendan. What was he thinking?

The now Abbot General of the Cistercians being comfortable about appointing a new convicted child rapist as novice master is nothing short of a scandal.

No wonder Purcell is not worried. But, when this does get traction the fallout will be ugly.

This will take time…but, keep up the good work.

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Im trying to work out who this might be. Has to be over 90, senile, and mad as a bag of bats. So few to choose from.

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I have read many posts on this blog that I found shocking. This is one of the worst. PEROID. The letter is awesome. It is measured, balanced, and raises hard questions about the governance of monastic life in Ireland. And by extension about the state of the church in Ireland.

Fitzgerald should resign now; Coffey should also resign; Purcell needs help, and Silverstream needs to be suppressed. It is so sick and twisted.

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Bishop Pat, you said before that you dine out in Hillsborough before Covid. The DUP are tearing themselves apart in that part of the world in Lagan Valley. You seem to know a lot. Is it true that a young DUP member there in Hillsborough dresses up in womens clothes and there is photographic evidence?? Is this the next scandal for the DUP??

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Members of the DUP like to dress up as Women Bishop Pat. That is the latest scandal. I believe you have photos.

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Bishop Buckley you know the score even in Hillsborough. You even have photo evidence of the DUP.

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Cullen s father refused to let his son take the Empires money( British/ English/ whatever the classification) ; so he went to Rome for training. There is one place Cullen never wanted to be ; Dublin : in the parentheses of eternity/ his eternity; so moving him is quite irrelevant to his condition. Dermot Martin of Florentine fame for leather wallets and sleek cars never wanted to be in Dublin either. He will be company for Cullen eventually…. though Paul Cullen was a gentleman and a scholar, it’s been a while for the present incumbent is a match.

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How much do Catholic priests get paid in Ireland?
An entry level priest (1-3 years of experience) earns an average salary of €29,843. On the other end, a senior level priest (8+ years of experience) earns an average salary of €50,336.
And do not forget the Three extra collections in Dublin for the Priests now.

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1.52: You are completely misinformed about salary in Dublin Diocese. No priest, irrespective of length of years, gets anywhere near €50,336…That is a complete fabrication. All priests are on same salary level except those in Adm. or P. P. positions, who get a bonus each month, amounting to about €4-5,000 annually….You are very misleading.

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Priests salaries in Ireland seem to range from Euro 20,000 to 35,000.

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Catholic priests in Ireland get the salary Pat says. Things like phone and bills are paid for. They do get a few extras. If they’re pretty and give their seniors favours they get gifts. If they give enough favours and promise to keep their gob shut they get a mitre.

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BIshop Pat, tell us about the DUP member. Is he a friend of Poots? They say you have a photo? The media want a pic.

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The voters of the DUP care. This is a another DUP scandal. You miss the point @ 6.12pm.

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Bishop Pat, you know the whole score even on the DUP. Plus photographs. That is a result! You are some man!!

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Bishop Pat you often eat in Hillsborough and in the Moira area l. I have seen you often in the Parsons Nose.

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Dermot Farrell is the best appointment to Dublin since Mc Cabe…. in my not so humble opinion……and hopefully colour follows.

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Concerning the Maternity Hospital controversy, may fortune guide the political class, for the other empire have been at it since the Donation of Sutra.

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I wonder who among the readers of this blog know where the most precious copies of The Sutra rest ?!?!

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From the information promulgated on this blog this week…. I went to a recorded event in a place on the right side of urban engineering…. There was sadness involved but the episcopal presence and the words of quite an exceptional pastor ( wherever he has been) I have already intuited as a balm to an injured clergy. Would that it were universal ( catholicity)?

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For surety on this blog in case my name indicts him, I met him only once in 1990 …he was sitting in an armchair in a room I was invited to visit…. I have followed his progress ( as I do). He lends credence to the secret of a priests life as Roncalli wrote; to remain human. Shame among the caste that I feel this necessary; but my name should not indict anyone.

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Pat you’ve achieved something unexpected. Despite the somewhat random nature of your readership you’ve managed to call together a community which, when faced by an obvious troll like Seamus, just troll him right back!

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Anon 6:29, thanks for the laugh! It would be quite funny alright if people were trolling a troll. Please be assured that I most certainly am not a troll. Bishop Pat is a brave man. Much braver than you and I.
PAX

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The Canon Sweeney lives in Paul Cullens house before his departure for the big smoke!!! 😂😇

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The mention of Lonergan ( Fr Lawrence RIP Collon was taught by him) at a funeral in what is now a sea of mediocrity is a cause for hope and joy ; that at least some are using their eyes; that reflection is not entirely comatose among the “ Levitical Class.” Mmmmmm
Bravo Homilist !!!

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Bishop Buckley, ‘Seamus’ is a troll, and probably a priest. He’s wrecking your blog by diverting its purpose.

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Hi Anon 7:27,
I am not a troll. As I’ve mentioned above, I have commented within MMM’s sub-thread.
I agree with Bishop Pat. I disagree with Bishop Pat. I respect Bishop Pat.
I’ve been accused of being Anti-Catholic for my criticism of the Church. I will be critical where merited. I will give credit where merited.
Anyone distracted by MMM’s sub-thread would want to catch themselves on.
Pax vobiscum! ☮️

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The one thing you won’t do Seamus is answer awkward questions about you. Are you a coward, or just too embarrassed?

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Anon 9:13, I’m on the front foot thank you very much! I’ve been given an opportunity to set the record straight. People putting 2 and 2 together, and getting 5 is something for them to reflect on. It’s water off my back! 💦

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All around the world hang frames of German theft…. my walls are still depleted…. Rathgar still enjoys my discerning taste….take what you like says God….. but pay…… Spanish…..nor sure it made the islands…
I still have an Alliance certificate for their insurance some many years ago…. I need to pursue the energy for their retrieval….

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Hi William, I hear through the grapevine that two of your former paintings have been sold on. Not at public auction but privately to another priest collector. I won’t name him as I don’t want the blog to be injuncted. They were the nicest I think ,similar to Graham Ford. that may strike a bell, or two. Anyway glad to see you are still in the land of the living.

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Father has one of his heads. The reason I don’t have a mitre is that I am not a cleric. We don’t all live in the same narrow world of favour- and patronage-mediated promotion that you do.

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9.00: I don’t live in such a world either…Your 7.26 comment is still inane and untruthful and smutty and slutty.

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Well, you did notify the Nancio, Bp Pat, you would release the letter in full. She was given a fair warning.

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8.56: A racist, ignorant and ugly comment which Pat should not have printed. You are still in adolescence, still maturing, aren’t you, silly bully boy?? Grow up.

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Seamus can only be a troll and Pat I would advise you not to pass any more comments by him. He uses a slight variant of a technique called sealioning, basically getting other people to perform:
‘people who troll online by pretending to ask sincere questions, but just keep feigning ignorance and repeating ‘polite’ follow ups until someone gets fed up. That way, they can cast their opponents as attacking them and being unreasonable. It’s pretty common on comment sections of weather blogs re: climate change. It’s called ‘sealioning’, ‘
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2019/03/07/sealioning-is-a-common-trolling-tactic-on-social-media-what-is-it/
If you stop moderating comments from him you will then start getting similar comments from another ID, which will demonstrate beyond all doubt that he’s a troll. His motivation will be to make your blog into a battle zone to discredit you. He could even be an associate of Dom Rawhide for all we know!

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Anon 9:08, the thing that contradicts what you’ve written is that if I felt I wasn’t allowed a fair response, I’d email Bishop Pat. I emailed Bishop Pat a few weeks back when I felt I wasn’t allowed a response to someone who wrote a derogatory comment in my direction.
People distracted by my comments within MMM’s sub-thread would really want to take a look at themselves. Some on here have a habit of throwing their toys out of the pram. We all have the option to scroll on.

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Nah. That’s a sign of a troll as well. Most people on here just deal with it when they conflict with someone else. A troll approaches the moderator in exactly the way you did.
I think a number of people on here think you get too much attention, not too little.
If you were actually interested in a sensible debate you wouldn’t be reacting like this. You would say sorry to someone else or even if you didn’t you would take what other people say on board.
I think Pat should ban you, as several other people have said.

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You do realize you are saying you’re being attacked? The exact behaviour in the comment you’re replying to?

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9.08: This blog is full of trolls – surely? Your request of Pat could be made of everyone, including yourself!! It’s an innocuous observation about Seamus. Long live Seamus..

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9.08
A very good comment, and it is in part evidenced by Seamus’ defensive post below that he isn’t being allowed a fair response, a defining characteristic of sealioning trolls, like him.
His last remark, that we all have the option to move on, is the classic self-defence mechanism for trolls like him; but that’s the point: readers aren’t really given the option, because trolls like Seamus deliberately bait them with ad hominems to ensure a response.

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9.08
A little paranoia on your part, perhaps and on the part of magna carta. Seamus gets my vote hands down. Keep them coming, Seamus! You must be doing something right.

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Thanks Anon 11:18! 👍
When I come on to this blog, I’m greeted with the history that certain individuals tried to shut down this blog and shame on them. Bishop Pat must be doing something right.
I’m a mere humble comment maker. I’m accused of being Anti-Catholic when I criticise the Church. Derogatory words are thrown at me when I give the Church credit.
I must be doing something right alright that certain comment makers are trying to shut me down. It is as obvious as the nose on anyone’s face that I commented within MMM’s off topic sub-thread yesterday.
Pax vobiscum!

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Amongst all this tribulation there is a point of great joy to remember, which is the appointment of Archbishop Roche to high office in the Vatican. I have drawn attention to this before now and will do so again. Let us rejoice.

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Paul Taylor and Shay Brady, never mind his sister….. life is short and long enough…. Perhaps the police force have a record….. lol 😆

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Does internal church legal practices ever impact the outside world. It may well be fantasy island in there.

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I have not made a contribution on the abbots life before to anyone. I do so now. His ordination retreat was in Knock. I am aware of where it was. Who it was with. And what went on. Circumstances extricated this.
Bill Mulvihill.

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Pat are you in direct contact with sources from the ranks of Fintan Monaghan. Fintan is using all means to silence his clergy.

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When it comes to Dom Richard’s exotic fetishes, it is always good to hear from Aelred. He knows so much.

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Don’t fret. All will become clear and transparent. Justice will win out. The truth will set the Cistercians free. The OCSO have a proud past. We cannot allow deviant behaviour to be the normal culture.

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