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DEENIHAN CAUSES MORE TROUBLE IN MEATH!

Deenihan on left with Okolo and Smith

The new bishop has sold developers a plot of land for more than €1million that had been gifted to the Church.

Ashbourne, Co. Meath, is where a man called Ned Nulty signed over land he owned close to Old Killegland graveyard to the diocese with the stipulation it was to be used only if the graveyard needed to be extended or priests need a new parochial house. But Deenihan has sold developers the land for more than €1million.

Mr Nulty died in 1998, aged 78, and is buried in Old Killegland cemetery. The land was zoned residential but in a submission to the Meath County Development Plan (CDP), five councillors proposed zoning the lands to open space with the intention of creating a public park there and when this motion was discussed it was voted through.

However on May 12, Deenihan disposed of it to a development company called Killegland Estates while it was still able to be built on. Angry locals only discovered this when a planning notice appeared on an entrance gate to the land earlier last week causing fury.

A sales document shows it sold for €1,050,000. The seller is named as St Finian’s Trust, a limited company which administers the affairs of the Diocese of Meath and has Bishop Deenihan listed as a director along with a number of priests in the diocese. The move sparked fury among politicians and parishioners as their village did not see a cent of the cash for the site that was left for their benefit.

Relatives of the late Mr Nulty still live in the area but did not want to comment on the sale. However, a source said: ‘I doubt they are happy over it, anyone who knew Ned would know he wanted the lands to be used for parish needs and I’d imagine he would have wanted any money from this sale to go the people of Ashbourne.’

Several of the councillors who wanted to use the lands to provide a park are furious. Fine Gael’s Suzanne Jamal said: ‘This has come out of the blue, it was land that was there for years and years and we applied for it to be zoned differently to serve the community needs.

‘We have no influence over the proposed application, I am just an ordinary Joe Soap, when this arises all I can do is make a submission expressing my feelings and supporting my constituents and I intend to do that.’

Aisling O’Neill, of Sinn Féin, said: ‘The church never built on it, so we as a group of five councillors put in for a green space for the community but the church is after selling it to the developers. My opinion is the developers should have been aware of the county development plan and aware of the community’s plans for that area so we are going to fight that planning application.’

PAT SAYS:

If Mr Nulty left the land for an extended graveyard or the building of a parochial house then the land should have been used ONLY for those purposes.

Surely these instructions are the conditions of the will?

I think it is VERY HIGH HANDED and INDECENT of Deenihan to ride a horse abd coaches through the wishes of a deceased man with family still in the parish of Ashbourne.

But this is the kind of behaviour people have come to expect from Tom Deenihan.

There was a great sigh of relief when he left Cork – especially from the clergy of Cork and Ross.

Mind you, the clergy of Meath are generally a snobbish lot and maybe God has sent Deeniham to them as a penance?

During Francis’ visit to Ireland the retired bishop of Meath, Michael Smith, was standing in the foyer of a Dublin hotel and Deenihan was standing behind him. A parish priest of another diocese went over to Smith and said to him: “Your crucifixion is standing behind you”. Smith replied: ” I know”.

Come back John Charles. All is forgiven!

AND WHO SAYS THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE BUNDLE OF CELLS?

96 replies on “DEENIHAN CAUSES MORE TROUBLE IN MEATH!”

If it was land left to the Church, what right did Shinner councillors have to turn it into a park? Let the council buy a field and turn it into a park if it wants to, but don’t go round seizing private property as if we are in China.

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Tom Deenihan has no time for Mullaney’s conquests and ambitions. Tom in fairness was displeased with Mullaney’s approach to end the Maynooth Scandal. Mullaney is sidelined.

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I’m sure Nulty would be delighted that he himself is taking the punishment intended for paedo priests and the church that protected and enabled them.

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If Mr Nulty qualified, in the way stipulated, the transferance of his land, then there is no question that Deenihan acted against Mr Nulty’s express wish.

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“The new bishop has sold … for more than €1million … stipulation it was to be used only if the graveyard … or … new parochial house.”
But Judas Iscariot said, “Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?” He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it.

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Jimin at 11:03
Your post is an amalgam of two quotations both taken out of context.

Why bother?

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11:39, *all* of his comments are amalgamations of quotes out of context. The reason he bothers is to troll the blog.

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Anon 11:39, the joining of dots can be difficult for some.
So I’ve highlighted a part of the blog story and linked the subject’s actions to being something similar to what a certain apostle might have done.
This commenting is not everyone’s cup of tea. That’s fine. I’m respectful of differences. Some people clearly are not respectful of differences.
Anon 11:56, there is no need to troll my comment just because it is not your cup of tea. ☮️

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I have just realised what Seamus reminds me of. An English racist’s caricature of an Irish person, which ignores the island’s history of scholarship and reduced the original inhabitants to a bunch of ignorant bog-dwellers. In fact the same as they see every people they have colonised.
Mark my words, not only is ‘Seamus’ not Irish, his creator is English and a racist.

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They’ll do anything to keep up with Kitty, Bp Pat; she is their inspiration, I think, when it comes to money.

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Very worrying. If the covenant did expressly state what the land should be used for then the transaction might be voidable. However, I know from another diocese they have been successful in setting aside on restricted funds and applied to the charities regulator for approval. For instance in Dublin the Trust set up for the building of a new cathedral was set aside as the diocese is not going to build a new cathedral so the instrument was varied to allow the funds be applied to some similar charitable activity. Someone should query with the regulator and possibly send an FOI request to see any and all correspondence between the charity and the regulator regarding disposing of the land and on what condition.

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Why didn’t Deenihan sell the land to the council for use as a park, that would have generated funds and honoured the donors wishes?

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Everyone was critical when the Drumcondra Investor mafia consortium sold Clonliffe for pittance to the GAA for the greater good – promise of social housing et. al., now we are hearing objections about the Church maximising the value of assets – like any prudent person – you of course want the maximum – remember they are TRUSTEES not their personal effects being flittered away?

They should have consulted with Coddle Investment Management and sold that parcel of land like Drumcondra was – car boot sale style.

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According to the Catholic news agency, ENSA, Pope Humbleness has moved a 27-strong entourage from the Vatican to be with him while he is in the hospital.

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10.44
And so what?!😕
This is precisely how those sheep are treated, too. You know, the ones Pope Francis doesn’t want to smell of.

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+Pat, a very interesting post. I am going to suggest that in the future another parcel of land to be put on sale by Bishop Deenihan will be the landholding in which the notorious Silverstream Priory is located.
When the community ultimately fails, because it has been set-up to fail (because you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear) by Deenihan. The fact that a non-ordained to be appointed superior tells you everything you need to know about the state of that community. It is also interesting that none of Benedictine Congregations were interested in coming to its aid, because nobody is interested in the synchronistic madness of its founder, Dom Kirby, who is a man of considerable talent – a characteristic found in all master manipulators with questionable morality.
Following its suppression by a Decree of the Holy See, the property will theoretically become the property of the Holy See which in reality is the local Ordinary, Deenihan.
If the land is held in Trust and/or a company — Deenihan will then seek to obtain in the usual manner legal title (on behalf of the diocese) to the property, so it can be sold for development.
Am I being cynical? Of course not — I am being realistic. There has been a significant amount of housebuilding in the Stamullen area. The land surrounding Silverstream Priory is ideally suited to further development. In a rising market that land would attract a significant premium all to be used for the greater good of the Diocese of Meath.
There are many priests in the Diocese of Meath who will welcome the suppression of Silverstream. In fact, I would positively suggest it will beget a rare moment of unity between Bishop Deenihan and his priests.

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Yes. In fact Kirby’s book, Private Revelations Whispered from the Tabernacle to a Priest who Totally Wants to be Identified (or whatever it’s called), should have led to the suppression of the monastery on its own.

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You can get the sight of his probate re contents of his will in probate office. Probably likely not clear cut re his intentions cos you will have to specify it more clearly. I’m certain rcc solicitors had seen it and gave green light to Bishop.

Its old story re wills and lands, money. If you want to specify it, better would be that land or whatever land it be to be explicitly stated as ring fenced for community. So they as rccc can’t use it for their own benefits.

I have seen it in one charity accounts where they must state that funds break down into non ringfenced and ringfenced funds.

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DG
Well said of course the RCC solicitors would be all over it.
Bishop Tom is a Priest not a building surveyor or a banker.
The family of the late gentleman would be informed of the changes and seek their permission.
The Church has Solicitors and Finance guys working for it all the time.
Who was paying for the maintenance of the ground likely the Dioceses.
Just now the Church has too many buildings and land and it needs to go as it is surplus to requirements as churches can drain all resources more so if they are listed and not fit for purpose.
Bishop Tom is only ONE Trustee and also the regulators would need to be informed.
Well done Bishop tom for getting that kind of money in a pandemic and property values down.

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At 1.32, a very presumptive post:
‘of course the RCC solicitors would be all over it’; ‘the family of the late gentleman would be informed…and seek (sic) their permission’; ‘the Church has solicitors and finance guys (technical phrase?😕) working for it all the time’; etc.

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Yes, 4:33, it’s a repeat commenter here who is always saying how good safeguarding is and how there can’t possibly be any financial misdemeanors. Anyone would think they were employed by the church.

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Has anyone read the will in full? Until then stop thevheaesay and speculation, all if which is done to undermine, mock and slander Bishop Deenihan. It’s important to know the TRUTH.

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In England you can get hold of a copy of anyone’s will once probate has been granted online for a fee of £1.50. This will provide you with an electronic scan of the will and the grant of probate showing the gross and net value of the estate at death. I am not sure what the process is in NI or Ireland and if it so easily available.

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It cost £75.00 in Scotland 12 years ago. Don’t know what it costs nowadays.

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2.43
You were robbed.
It is £25 plus vat so £30.
Republic of Ireland is Ten Euros
England is a fiver.
So if you are all that interested pay the Ten euros and find out.

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@ 11:06 am
“Kirby’s book, Private Revelations Whispered from the Tabernacle to a Priest who Totally Wants to be Identified”. Very witty and depressingly accurate.

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Hi +Pat,

The sale of land gifted to the church is not per se wrong. The sale of land gived to the church for defined reasons can be wrong.

The question becomes what Tommy will do with this €1m. Will he use the funds to open a graveyard elsewhere? Probably not because these days this is typically a function of the local authority. Will he use the money to build new presbyteries? Probably not because the diocese of Meath has enough. Will he use the money to refurb the existing presbyteries – perhaps. If he completes the latter action he will have indirectly fulfilled the criteria for the donation under trust.

So basically, multiple priests in Meath can smile this morning at the luxury coming their way.

I suggest that any documents etc that you have be referred immediately to the Charities Regulator so that Tommy is forced to spend the money on refurbishing presbyteries. This will dash his existing plans and highlight the existing luxuries. I say, let the people know where their collection plate goes.

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Holy Goat,
The Dioceses still have responsibilities for the upkeep of their cemeteries and the days of volunteers to cut the grass has long gone.
Some parish even have to employ Commercial Cleaners as the parishioners will not clean the Church Pre Covid so it will be worse now.

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@1:37 I thought all you priests described ‘wonderful’ parish communities where parishioners give generously and inspire their priests. If they won’t clean the church it sounds more like they’re wise to y’all.

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12.21
Oh, it is indeed wrong, if Mr Nulty bequeathed the land under the duress that God would look more favourably upon his soul.
I describe you people as ‘parasites’ not for trivial reasons.

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I wonder if this fiasco in Ashbourne is why the PP is decamping to Waterford & Lismore Diocese? I knew John Nally in Maynooth, and he’s a straight-talking guy. Hew wouldn’t suffer fools likes Tom Deenihan gladly.

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Yes, I do. He’s of a slightly more gentle disposition, but not insincere. My favourite John Nally moment was when we had a workshop on group dynamics by a lady who would drive you to drink. John told her at the feedback she would divide the communion of saints in seconds.

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2.04

Oh! He would indeed suffer Deenihan, and very gladly too, if the alternative was retributive loss of ministry, home, income, pension, etc.

Every romanist priest is bought, and paid for, on ordination day.

But not by Calvary’s crimson spill.

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I wonder why Mr Nulty bequeathed such a valuable asset to ‘the Church’.
The psychology here is fascinating. Did he think, perhaps without acknowledging the thought, that God would look more favourably upon his soul?
This corrupted church has always intimidated people about God, presenting him as a future nemesis and terror, and itself as efficacious intercessor.
Personally, I shouldn’t donate yesterday’s leftovers to this rogue institution.

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Magna darling, you know tripe is nutritious and economical. And strictly speaking they’re not leftovers – Mummy will be presenting you with them until you’ve eaten them, darling.

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2.44: Magna: do you realise how banal, inane and ridiculous your comment is? So bizazarely unintelligent. Parishioners leave legacies for all kinds of reasons but primarily do so out of gratitude for the blessings they received through their local church community. It is quite cynical and incredulous that you try to attribute sinister motivations to the donor. Cop yourself on. In the past 2 years parishioners have left a percentage of their estate to our Church – for the ongoing financial maintenance of our Church as is necessary but also for whatever will benefit the upbuilding of the parish community. The Finance Committe have a 100% say for the projects upon which the legacy will be spent. The donors were two wonderful parishioners and all of uscwete absolutely taken by surprise as they were very quiet and private people and had families. Only a cynical, begrudging fool and hater like you could stupidly and ignorantly proposition such a scenario. Good people don’t need to bargain with God for their place among the chosen ones!! But I know a hater who might need to get down on his knees!! Thank God you were never ordained a priest…Stop your childish lies and your malevolent nonsense.

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How right you are about Magna’s hatred. It has become more nuisance value to this blog. Clearly massive boulders on his shoulders because he was never ordained. Rejection can can cause all sorts of problems: Alcohol and drug abuse, mental health issues.
MAGNA, you need to calm down take a deep breath and hold you tongue. Seek help and not just for the fluid in your ear at the ent as you wrote to me about my deafness.
Garngad Lad

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Of course you think they were wonderful parishioners, ‘father’, they left you money!
Magna is, er, bang on the money, obviously.

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I love it when cathbots think every rational commenter here is Magna. And thank you for admitting that the RC body is all about money.

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I have a dream of a world where religions have to pay capital gains tax on things like this plot of land.

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6.09: You don’t do fun and irony obviously! Mags comments frequently under anonymous. But he has clones who emulate his crap – you being one of them.

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We don’t all seek to emulate others – some of us have a personality of our own. You’re bitter because those who realize the truth about the RC church are legion, will not shut up and will be cheering in the streets when you are all taxed properly like the business you are.

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Dream on Anon 8:19! Religious organizations are not-for-profit. The Charities Act 2009 considers the advancement of religion to be a charitable purpose.

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“Concerned in Stamullen” is very rightly concerned about Deenihan’s likely plans should the Holy See listen to reason and suppress the Silverstream mess outright.

Back in May 2020, developer Alcove Ireland Eight announced plans to build some 645 units (houses and apartments) in Stamullen, with 184 in the Silverstream area alone (110 houses, 74 apartments).

The applications would seem to be stalled at the moment, but with no end in sight for the Dublin housing crisis, huge development in the Silverstream area is inevitable — and extremely lucrative.

I predict that, in the end, the real winner will not be Kitty Kirby and her kittens, nor the whistleblower, but Big Tom D€€nihan.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the house and land at Stamullen Priory are leased. There’ll be no windfall.

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You are entirely incorrect, both in terms of your information about ownership and even about the name of the monastery: it’s Silverstream Priory.

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5.14pm anon
Are you sure re lease?
From what I had seen previous other posts way back , it was wife of PP owner who funded or donated their money to stanmullen correct?
One quick question, lease contract for how long and who own these lands plus house as well?
What’s the latest on garda investigation plus charity regulator on this?

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If you look in the financial statements of the Priory for FY 2016 you will see note 8 to the accounts there was an addition to Land and Buildings of 1.3 million Euro. Subsequent accounts also note additions to Land and Buildings up to 2019 when an additional 350k was added to their Land and Buildings on the balance sheet and notes at 11. By 2019 their Land and Buildings were valued at 2.4 million Euro. In terms of accounting rules, legally if they are not the title holder they can not reflect this as an asset. They would have a note about lease commitments – it is clear this is not leased but owned by the Priory and as valued in the latest published accounts is around 2.4 million Eur for Land and Buildings.

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“Cui bono?” yes, I am legitimately concerned because I read in a newspaper article that Silverstream Priory is located “on 15 idyllic acres of countryside”. You can get a lot of houses on 15 acres of land. I understand the estate is actually larger. The poster at 5.15 pm is incorrect as the property was purchased by the monks from the Visitation Nuns.

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5:30 is correct. The nuns sold the property to pay for their nursing home care. The monks own the property through money raised from donations. It is not the property of the diocese.

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5:14, see, for instance, the Silverstream Priory newsletter for Fall 2017:
“With the acquisition of our property, the significant works undertaken and completed, and the arrival of new man, 2016 was a year rich in blessings for Silverstream Priory”.
The Tablet, on 8 October 2020, reported:
“[I]n 2016-19, the community spent more than €2.5m (£2.27m) in purchasing the property and renovating it”.
So, yes, there would be a very rich windfall for the Diocese of Meath.

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Cui bono? Thank you for those important clarifications. Yes, the Diocese of Meath could have a significant windfall to the detriment of us locals. Bishop Deenihan, I am told is not trusted by his priests who resent him for being an outsider; I am also told that the farce of Silverstream Priory could be damaging to his episcopal ambitions.

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His Holiness has got severe diverticular stenosis with signs of sclerosing diverticulitis.
Not so good at his age.
Sad but part of life.
The Paddy Power will soon have the odds on for his successor.

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6.22
Francis has lived with the top of one lung missing since his youth, as the result of an infection. He won’t be beaten by diverticulitis. God bless him!

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7.20: What a stupid comment! Honestly, would you just MYOB..It’s employment for someone. You fool. Go out to feed the homeless.

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Yes ‘father’, anything to maintain the status quo, including clerical privilege and avoid eliminating poverty completely.

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8.17: Grow up, silky boy!! Grow up. Your comment at 7.20 is irrelevant. Get real…

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Further to a previous blog I see that Tony Walsh has got another 2 years in prison for sexually assaulting a child 45 years ago when Walsh was a clerical student. He is already in prison for previous offences but was due to be released in two days

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Possibly off topic, but I was surprised to notice an ad in the 03.07.2021 issue of The Tablet for a full-time sacristan post at Buckfast Abbey on a salary of GBP 25,000. Anyone else find this egregious, to say the least, at a time when the EBC is in meltdown? Are the monks simply too busy or too few to polish their own candlesticks?

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The C of E has been employing these flunkies for centuries, such as a bloke carrying a silver stick in order to escort the Dean to his stall for Evensong, attended by half a dozen on a good day. I’m glad, however, to discover that the RCC, despite protests to the contrary, is not so short of cash that it requires my widow’s mite. I shall therefore continue in good conscience to contribute SOD ALL to the maintenance of non-jobs, and encourage you all to do the same.

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They make tons of money with Buckie so not a surprising salary. Buckie will be well sold over the 12th round the loyalist bonfire areas.

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I suspect there are too few monks. This year’s yearbook gives a resident community of 11 and a postulant.
That place must be HUGE because it was built for the community of La Pierre qui Vire and they are actually rolling in it from the sales of tonic wine. Periodically the ethics of living well off a drink which is the scourge of the west of Scotland but as with all RC clerics that doesn’t seem to bother them.

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An awareness of the needs of the liturgy, a willingness to do lots of cleaning and polishing and not to gossip about any hissy fits you see.

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No doubt they’ll employ a handsome young man for eye candy the dirty old monks/

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The laity need to be encouraged to take on these roles and paid for it because people often moan and accuse the clergy of clericalism and doing all the jobs themselves. You can’t have it both ways and have your cake and eat it.

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The Church Private Limited Curiosity. What about the wishes of the donor. Are they not part of a contract. Leave any money to the Confederation of the Mothers of Seven instead, I wonder how many of the properties will be affordable housing

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