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THE JESUIT PAEDOPHILE FR JOSEPH MARMION – THE MONSTER OF BELVEDERE.

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This week the Irish Jesuits issued a statement about one of their priests who abused boys for 50 years.

“After the naming in public of Joseph Marmion SJ last March the Jesuits in Ireland appealed for anyone who had any complaints, concerns or questions to contact our Safeguarding Office.

It was clear from what was communicated to us from those impacted by Marmion’s emotional, psychological, physical and sexual abuse, that they wanted a robust process that would address the whole truth of what happened and how it was allowed to happen

After consultation with survivors and others the Provincial, Fr Leonard Moloney, asked two independent restorative justice practitioners to engage with those survivors who wished to, in order to further identify their needs and ways to meet them.

Through this process it was also intended that the full story of Jesuit knowledge, actions and omissions would be told and that answers would be provided to the questions that are being brought forward.

One strand of this process involved the preparation of a detailed chronology and Jesuit Response to the Joseph Marmion history.

What has emerged in terms of the story of Marmion’s abuse, and subsequent handling of his case is shameful for us Jesuits and must be very difficult for survivors to read. Decisions were made that should never have been made and decisions that should have been made were not. There are no excuses.

We are profoundly sorry for the terrible wrongs that were done to survivors. We again ask forgiveness of all those impacted by Joseph Marmion’s abuse.

We understand that words are never enough, no matter how sincerely meant or felt. But it is our deep hope that this first step in owning our story, shameful as it is, and acknowledging fully the role we played as an Order in allowing this abuse to happen and go on for so long, will be the beginning of a new way for us of taking responsibility for our failings.

We understand the justifiable anger, or range of reactions that many survivors may feel on reading the details of this story of abuse and how it was handled.

We want to invite anybody impacted by what they have now read, should they wish to do so. to contact the restorative practitioners:

Catherine O’Connell Catherine.oconnell@mu.ie 0879936237

Barbara Walshe barbarawalshe@live.com 0868186639 or

Saoirse Fox, Child Safeguarding Manager in the Jesuit Safeguarding Office; email safeguarding@jesuit.ie 089 264 4400

The Provincial hopes also that through these ongoing restorative and restitutional processes, the Jesuits will have the opportunity to make their apology in person to survivors”.

THE JOE DUFFY PROGRAMME ON THE JESUIT STATEMENT AND MARMION.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/21986488/

PAT SAYS

The Irish Jesuits first knew about Marmion’s paedophilia in 1948.

They received shocking complaints about him in the 1970s.

But he was allowed to continue his activities.

They even allowed him to bring 25 boys each year, on his own, to Austria, where he drugged, raped and abused boys.

He was also a violent monster as a teacher and perfected the art of humiliating and beating boys.

He was a bully in every Jesuit community he served in.

Now that the proverbial shit has hit the fan, the Jesuits and their current slippery provincial, Leonard Maloney, are involved in a PR and save the cash manoeuvre.

Maloney

They are apparently very interested in being open AFTER HALF A CENTURY!

Some time ago I had dealings with Leonard and his safeguarding people over the then Jesuit, Paul Prior.

I SAY TO ALL VICTIMS

Do not trust Leonard and the Jesuits.

Only talk to the Garda and your lawyers.

177 replies on “THE JESUIT PAEDOPHILE FR JOSEPH MARMION – THE MONSTER OF BELVEDERE.”

Funny how now it’s hit the fan the Jesuits role out three women (no doubt richly remunerated) to apologise and take the flack for Marmion the Perv.
They are a craven crowd running for cover now there’s no where to hide.
Joke; what do you call a Jesuit at the bottom of the ocean? A good start.

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Bishop Buckley, how come the comment at 11.53 pm, with its clear wish of violence towards Jesuits, escaped your censorship?

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I looked at that again. The last sentence was preceeded with the word “joke”?

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You said more about yourself with the comment at 5.45 than you perhaps realise, Pat. I thought you had better moral boundaries.

Would you joke about the rape of a child by a priest? Or is nothing off-limits to you?

Some jokes are best left untold.

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No, I would not tell jokes about rape. But I have a few Jesuit jokes.

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Pat at 6.00pm, Fair enough. I have a few Jesuit jokes, too. But just not as tasteless as the one earlier.

An example: had the Three Wise Men been Jesuits instead of far-eastern kings, they’d have presented their gifts before the Christ-child before turning to his parents and asking: Have you given any thought as to the boy’s future education?

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A farmer invites two Jesuits to Sunday lunch. The wife wonders if she could cook one or two chickens 🐥

The farmer says two. “We can one with the Jesuits and use the other during the week ourselves”.

The Jesuits came to Sunday luch and ate the two chickens!

The farmer was showing the Jesuits around the farm after lunch and a large cock passed in front of them.

“Paddy”, said one of the Jesuits, ” thats a very proud cock you have”.

“And why wouldn’t he be proud” said the farmer, “he has two sons in the Jesuits”.

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There are jokes and there are jokes.

That particular “joke” was in very poor taste.

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Dom Bede Rowe and Dom Anselm (Alexander) Redman have both submitted their resignation to Bishop Declan Lang effectively from 1st September 2021. They are in discussion with the FSSPX about starting a Benedictine chapter, initially at S. Saviour’s Priory, Bristol but with the intention of purchasing a house somewhere in the West Country for a continuation of the monastery. A condition of a peaceful transition is that Dom Bede was requested by Bishop Declan to delete his blog.
You heard it here first!

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I don’t believe it. I am sure the FSSPX would not overlook certain weaknesses. It’s a strange old world but I am sure the RCC won’t lose any sleep over their decision.

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Mrs Lang would have to find priests to replace the cluster of parishes they look after. Unfortunately, Mrs Lang’s uninspiring leadership means she has no spare priests and no sems, so she might lise some beauty sleep over it.

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I’ve heard a rumour floating around about the SSPX and the Glastonbury monks too! Nothing official yet, but it seems they are open to it

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The FSSPX is surely well used to overlooking some weaknesses if Church Militant is to be believed.

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Pat’s own blog posted only a few days ago on the Glastonberry monks suggests that the are openly contemplating the FSSPX.
Bishop Lang should wave goodbye to them reminding them not to let the door hit them too hard as they leave.

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Old Gregorian (I’d keep that quiet), do you realise that if Dom Bede goes there is no priest for four parishs: Wells, Cheddar, Shipton Mallet and Glastonbury. Kinda backfired on Declan.

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Implausible. How can you resign into schism and still enjoy faculties as a RC priest? If that were true then the resignation would have to be immediate.

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Enjoy the faculties as a RC priest especially; bonking, wining and dining, junkets hither thither and yon, access to credit card, a gaff, financial security, holidays in the sun, endless courses, etc…

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On one occasion there was a 3 day clergy conference on poverty in a 5 star hotel.

On the final night, an old monsignor who was stuffed with food and booze said:

“If this was the one on poverty I cant wait for the one on chastity” 🤣

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6.22: Buckley, you prove my contention, yet again, your predilection for smutty, porno, vulgarity is boundless. I’m convinced you depend on these slutty jokes and porno imagery for sexual highs!! Quelle surprise!

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I think the man protesteth too much 😁

It is obvious to all that you are the one with the problem.

Maybe you should try and have an organism 🥳

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5.45: YOU, Buckley, are a f*****g joke. You wish only ignominy and humiliation on others, especially priests.

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There is no excuse for his actions or covering up his actions.
But let us consider.
How many Jesuits today are responsible for cover up so long ago?
Are you seeking to blame this generation for the cover up of previous generations?
Asking people to come forward, could you give a more positive interpretation to it?

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‘Are you seeking to blame this generation for the cover up of previous generations?’
Marmion’s abuse was well within living memory and any attempt to credit it to previous generations is a distancing which equals denial. It is also part of the church’s untrue narrative that clerical sexual abuse is a thing which is over, they’re very sorry and everything has changed.
This is an attempt to evade the effects and consequences of the church’s immoral behaviour in actively helping paedophiles to abuse. As is any narrative which attempts to turn the ongoing effects of the church’s behaviour into a situation where the church is persecuted.
Bollocks.

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The person with the blasphemous name – HG – who pretends to be a priest despite being booted out of Gaynooth, wants to brush it all under the carpet and tell still living and suffering victims to shut up.

How callous.

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@9.01
You attribute too much to my point. I merely wonder what superior knew about this in 1948, did nothing and can be held to account today? I seek a balance. There is no denial that sexual dysfunctional happened and is happening.

@9.07
You make many assumptions and the first half of your comment does not describe a person who would hold motive for the second half of your comment. Illogical much? Would you like to call over for Mass tomorrow? It’s my day off so Mass will take the full hour, and will be preceeded by 1 hr of exposition to include morning office.

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There are many who have been booted out of Maynooth and elsewhere on this blog. Their verbal bile against the Church gives them away. Just watch them attack my comment. They hate it. If you can dish it out rejects then you have to take also.

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Did getting booted out turn them into melters (having been a non-melter before they were booted out), or were they booted out because they were melters from even before they entered the seminary?

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Weren’t they very lucky to be booted out of that stinking anti-Catholic faith-destroying hell hole called Maynooth, 11:33 am?

Were you a formator 11:33 am? You seem to take great glee in constantly referring to former seminarians as “rejects” and assuming that many who comment here are such.

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Check out complicit clergy website for further education on catholic church bilesays:

11:33 am
https://www.complicitclergy.com/2021/07/27/grindr-in-the-vatican/
” Analysis of commercially available signal data obtained by The Pillar, which was legally obtained and whose authenticity The Pillar has confirmed, shows that during a period of 26 weeks in 2018, at least 32 mobile devices emitted serially occurring hookup or dating app data signals from secured areas and buildings of the Vatican ordinarily inaccessible to tourists and pilgrims.”

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@11.33
Your comment exposes you as one of the recent people in Maynooth… older chaps think well on those who left. They provided a generation of teachers and social workers that kept the church very much central in Irish society for longer than it otherwise would have been. We all have a place in God’s plan. Be kind. If you wear a collar, honour it’s true values.

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When considering the character types ordained – one of whom is now laicized – and/or recommended for ordination by Maynooth in recent times, I would trust the ‘reject’ class better the ‘accepted’ one.

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Been done to death twice by Joe Duffy on Liveline Pat. Jesuits written apology, say nothing else, wheel out Saoirse and two other Bridie’s as shoulders to cry on and hope it all goes away.

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Moloney can not be trusted. I was a student in Belvedere in late 90s when he was Principal there. One of my memories is serving him at a table in a Dublin hotel many years later. He did not show any interest when I chatted only ordered a bottle of Closerie De Vaudieu Chateauneuf du Pape from me. Moloney enjoys the good life and has unlimited arrogance. Little pastoral skills.

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Pope Francis is a Jesuit – he was so brutal and harsh a Provincial he was exiled to get him the hell away from everybody.
In exile he read History of the Popes – guess what – he became Pope (convenient that).
He dobbrd on two fellow Jesuits to Military Junta accusing them of being Marxists (they were serving the poor), they were tortured and imprisoned.
He is is Peronist – meaning Machivelian – he says one thing one day, another the next. Anything to stay in power.
If he returned to Argentina, diplomatic immunity aside, they have enough on him regarding cover up of child abuse in Deaf schools to arrest him.
They burnt churches in Chilie so pissed we’re the people with him for ordaining a known child abuser as a bishop. He didn’t believe them – taunting, ‘Show me the evidence.’
Burning churches did the trick – he sent the little Maltese bishop to investigate – he did, wrote a 2000 page report concluding the people were right the priest he ordained was a child abuser.
And finally a little known Jesuit fact – although Pope Francis refers to the poor incessantly the Jesuits in the UK alone are worth we’ll over half a billion – yes £500 million and that’s just the UK – worldwide must be pushing well over 1 billion and some – money to feed the poor? War chest more like to see off the child abuse litigation more like.
Would I trust a Jesuit? Not even if he was the Pope.

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What is the point of your pretentious, silly, look-at-me comment when probably most readers won’t understand it?

How old are you? In terms of intellectual maturity, not your chronological age; that’s for sure.

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9.08
Despite your pathetic effort to summarise Francis life, he’s the most popular pope in history. He must be doing something right.

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I had a Jesuit friend who always boasted that he liked sleeping with widows without having sex and kissing the pink lips of 15 year old boys.

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That’s good to hear, Bishop Pat and thanks for responding. If only the other bishops would be open to being questioned publicly. Can you imagine if Amy had a blog. It would be all holy pictures, Daniel O’Donnell songs, turgid quotes from Francis and comments disabled.

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We should all be accountable, especially when people ask us genuine questions are are not trying to trick us.

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Jesus came to save sinners. You, with your blog, seek not their salvation, but their public destruction.
You are no Jesus.

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9.35pm

Imagine you rushed to your keyboard to reveal your own ignorance and snobbishness.
The art of Sommelier isn’t rooted in class but palate – and most Sommeliers hail from humble origin.
You seem to lack both class and taste.

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Irish snobbery is a brand all on its own – I can sniff it a mike off – the Irish middle class is crippled by it – such a joyless existence – I have never met an English or Irish RCC bishop who wasn’t infected by it.

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Very Sad time for us in Glasgow as we lose one of Cherished Churches in Partick West End Glasgow. although No resident Priests it was still used by the Polish Community as their Spiritual home around 300 however it is B listed so hopefully rebuilt.

And yesterday a curate assaulted in St. Mary’s Edinburgh for saying his prayers thanking St Mary’s is still single seats and Father was able to fend him off with a chair.

Jardine will likely be on later when he reads it in the scum Sun.

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Just bricks and mortar. And yet, here you are daily destroying the temples of the Holy Spirit.

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2:38 PM

Look at the number of lives ruined, temples of the Holy Spirit destroyed, through clerical abuse/ cover up. Thousands, in a 35 year plus, so called scandal which continues…

Are you brainwashed, or what?

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3.16 pm So destroying even more of these temples is the answer?

Are you stupid or what?

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4:39 pm

This blog tries to expose clerical corruption, abuse and criminality.
Many victims of clerical/hierarchical abuse/ cover up are prematurely in their graves.
You claim this blog daily destroys temples of the Holy Spirit. How?
It might be more in your line to challenge the Hierarchy before more humiliating public apologies have to be made. Ireland is ground zero of abuse in the catholic church
for very strong reasons. 12 years after The Murphy Report the Jesuits are publicly
found out ! Are you in denial or what? Or do you want the hush hush to continue? Silly !!!

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5.07pm If this blog tries to expose clerical corruption, abuse and criminality, it does mostly through reputational mudslinging (character assasination), not through conclusive evidence of wrongdoing This is how reputations are unjustly ruined. This is how temples of the Holy Spirit are destroyed.
Those involved will have to answer for this before God.
I did not deny the terrible criminal scandal of child rape and its cover-up by the Catholic hierarchy. But this other thing I will not deny either.

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I sometimes think that history boils down to banal but deeply revealing incidents.
The scene @ 8.53 paints of a waiting on a table and taking the order of a Closeri De Vandieu Chateauneuf Pape tells you everything you need to know – entitled, arrogant, unfriendly and poor taste in wine.

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5:51pm
You are using the term destroying the temple of The Holy Spirit inappropriately.
Those still in ‘the land of the living’ can resort to legal action. Child rape particularly
by clerics causes profound spiritual abuse as well as what therapists call soul death.

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6.35 How did I use the term ‘temples of the Holy Spirit’ inappropriately? Oddly, you didn’t say.

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I believe we need to establish a model of dialogue and interaction in the lines of a Truth and Reconciliation forum whereby we allow all victims/survivors or representative groups dialogue constructively, all to be funded by the Jesuits but with total outside professionals as facilitators. I believe the admission by the Jesuits of so horrendous an amount of abuse over many, many years warrants the immediate setting up of a forum to facilitate victims/survivors a moment to tell their truths. None of us should now play recklessly with this awful experience to simply express a hatred of any group, individual or organisation. The main concern should be the welfare of all survivors and families who I hope will be supported, helped and l8stened to with total openness. There is such a deep sadness for all victims/survivors and their families. The report by the Jesuits is very open and honest but this abuse story needs an independent enquiry too.

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9.35: Is your wine tasting that of a sommelier? Stop trying to be upper class, YOU, born of humble origins…What great wine would you have chosen? Honestly, the things that concern YOU, Buckfast??

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No, I am not a sommelier. But I have a reasonable knowledge of wine.

Unlike your good self, I’ve never tasted Buckfast or “Mundies wreck the house”. 😁

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9:35am (who probably drinks British QC sherry or Tesco Value vodka) displays one of the worst traits of British and Irish people: begrudgery. The idea that someone of humble background should know their place, and stay there and not have nice things.
As a parent, I want my son to have a better life and be more prosperous than me. That was my parents attitude too and it is a good one. Those who have truly known poverty don’t wish it on anyone and don’t have a romantic view of it or see it as holy or to be aspired to.

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As a child, I certainly knew poverty, not grinding poverty, but poverty.

And as they say in Belfast, I have never forgotten the bowl I was baked in.

I agree with the above – begrudgery is a pathetic state.

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£25 a bottle retail, so £35-£40 a bottle in a restaurant, more in a fine dining establishment, as favoured by those with a vow of povertysays:

Château de Vaudieu, Châteauneuf-du-Pape ‘Closerie de Vaudieu’ has a deep ruby red colour, and equally deep black cherry aromas. It has a lively fruit character, with a touch of liquorice and black pepper. Cherry and blackcurrant mingle with dried Provencale herbs and the wine has a long, satisfying finish. As you’d expect from Chateauneuf, it’s full-bodied and structured with ripe, supple tannins.

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Priests only buy it not because of quality but because it has the papal tiara and cross keys embossed on the bottle. If the same motif appeared on Le Piat D’or they’d buy it….

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I have never tried a Chateauneuf that I teally liked.

I think we are spoiled by the big new world wines.

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A National Truth and Reconciliation forum needs to be established in Ireland for victim/survivors of Rcc abuse/cover up. Rcc apologies are meaningless at this stage.

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9:43 you are TWISTING my comments to fit your own bias of HATRED of social workers. Nobody is doubting the impact of abuse. Look to yourself first before blaming the professional social workers. You are not of CHRIST.

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LIES, LIES and HATE. Can’t you show mercy, smashing those poor workers into the ground? You are not of CHRIST, Mr Perfect.

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Poor workers?!!? Incompetent woke shites that failed in their duty to protect those children. 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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You think you are so perfect 9:41. You should consider the plank in your own eye.

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9:32 am
There’s endless cover ups in Social Work. However, social workers don’t claim to be ontologically changed representatives of Christ or moral spiritual leaders.
Raping or abusing children or vulnerable adults is NOT OF CHRIST.
Nor is re-traumatizing, gaslighting or lies by clerics/hierarchs to victims who come forward.
There is a chasm between theory and Christian practice from the Institution catholic church.

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More LIES. You can’t wait to get on your keyboard and continue your twisted narrative. You ignore the many good social workers who give their LIVES to helping others. What do you do that is of any use, you plinker.

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12:36 pm
What in the name of Moses are you ranting about? What lies? What twisted narrative?
Social Workers are paid to do a job! If working for a statutory agency they have recourse to State legal teams, unlike their clients. Read the many reports into social work negligence, incompetence and abuse. And, calm down.

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10:04 am
This blog is about exposing corruption, abuse and criminality in the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland and Internationally.

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So there’s a heirarchy of abuse and only clerical abuse matters? The victims of social workers etc can just shimmy along? Are those the blog rules, according to you?

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2:31 pm
If you are so concerned about Social Work abuse victims set up a blog on matters related to Social Work corruption abuse and criminality.
This blog is about exposing corruption, abuse and criminality in the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland and Internationally.

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But we are not totally uninterested in social workers and their virtues and vices 😆

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3:13 pm

Agreed, Bishop Pat.Particularly if the Social Worker wears a clerical collar or is a religious sister or works in a voluntary agency or where there’s been collusion between Church and State.
My point is, I believe Social Work corruption merits regular blogs in itself which I have no doubt would prove very popular.

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But, Pat! You must have noticed that every time you publish yet another story of the shocking exploits of the clergy some troll also publishes a thing about failings in social work lol.
Classic deflection.
Last time he did it he brought up Sharon Shoesmith and MMM wiped the floor with him 😂

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Isn’t it obvious that these comments are by someone trolling the person who always brings up social workers as a distraction when abuse is mentioned? I’m hysterical here.

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Leave the SOCIAL WORKERS alone, their anti-oppressive practice is a message of peace and hope for the world. When did you last go out and do something non-oppressive.

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3:31 pm

Of course its deflection. As for anti oppressive guff! Laughable.
+ Pat, i know a social worker who was involved in serious
cover up who now works for the church. I’ll write to you during the week
with details plus other info which will be of interest to you.

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9:32 does parody the cathbots’minimisation of clerical sexual abuse very well though 😂

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Pretty amazing that people think it’s great to defend the director of Haringey social services during the time of Baby P.

Disgraceful.

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MARMION VICTIM IN TODAYS IRISH INDEPENDENT

One former pupil, Maurice Stokes, has said that an inquiry should be carried out by people who are not connected to the religious order.

He told RTÉ’s Liveline programme which first revealed details of the report: “It’s not independent. I don’t have any confidence. I’m not questioning the integrity of the people writing the report, but the reality is this is not independent.

“I have always advocated that it’s imperative that it be an independent report by an arm’s length body.”

Liveline host Joe Duffy also said it was a report “by the Jesuits, about the Jesuits, for the Jesuits”.

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Yes. Though you wouldn’t get good odds on that happening.
When states start forcing their way into churches’ secret archives I think they will find heaps of burnt out shredders in the manner of the Stasi.

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Ouch. That could be expensive. Imagine if all the Old Ampleford boys in high-flying jobs get sacked…

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Why is the Bishop of Clifton having a special collection for clergy training when he has no seminarians? 🐑🐑🐑

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You were clearly spurned by Lang because of all the biased crap you post here about him to the point of obsession.

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Is that how scrutiny works in Clifton? Having a special collection for clergy training when you have no sems, and having that collection as the first thing you see on the diocesan website, doesn’t pass the sniff test.

I have no connection with Clifton and have never met Bishop Lang.

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12.25
The Collection he is having is God willing for future seminarians
Seminarian training is a National function so if you have No Seminaries you still have to pay into the National pot.
Many departments are controlled by the Bishops Conferences so they are National Expenditure. So the bigger the income in the dioceses pay more.

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Fr Karadama, the notorious Chilean abuser defended relentlessly by Francis, has died. Francis called his victims liars.

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Ah but, the story doesn’t end there: Francis publicly apologised to the victims and has met with them at the Vatican, several times in at least one such case.

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That was only after Cardinal O’Malley exposed Frankie the fraud for the liar he is. You will recall that Frank denied ever getting a letter from the victims and claimed ignorance of it, only for O’Malley to contradict him publicly by stating that he (O’Malley) had personally given the letter to Frank.

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Didn’t it occur to you that Pope Francis might simply have forgotten? He is an old man after all, with an old man’s memory. Add to this the great deal of correspondence he must have received on a daily basis, and it becomes easier to understand how such an oversight might have occurred.

Why did you take the least charitable course and accuse him of being a liar? It was only one possible explanation for what happened. You are clearly prejudiced against the man.

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This was a cardinal hand delivering the letter, so he should have had it dealt with. Frank said the victims were liars, anti-Catholic and Marxists (which he surprisingly thought was an insult, despite being a Marxist himself).

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How does a cardinal’s involvement act as an aide-memoire? Pope Francis was still an old man with an old man’s memory.

Maybe he fully intended to act on that letter, but just forgot through age, through distraction, through whatever.

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Analysis of commercially available signal data obtained by The Pillar, which was legally obtained and whose authenticity The Pillar has confirmed, shows that during a period of 26 weeks in 2018, at least 32 mobile devices emitted serially occurring hookup or dating app data signals from secured areas and buildings of the Vatican ordinarily inaccessible to tourists and pilgrims.

At least 16 mobile devices emitted signals from the hookup app Grindr on at least four days between March to October 2018 within the non-public areas of the Vatican City State, while 16 other devices showed use of other location-based hookup or dating apps, both heterosexual and homosexual, on four or more days in the same time period.

The data set assessed by The Pillar is commercially available and contains location and usage information which users consent to be collected and commercialized as a condition of using the app.

Extensive location-based hookup or dating app usage is evident within the walls of Vatican City, in restricted areas of St. Peter’s Basilica, inside Vatican City government and Holy See’s administration buildings including those used by the Vatican’s diplomatic staff, in residential buildings, and in the Vatican Gardens, both during daytime hours and overnight.

Signals emitted from most of the Vatican’s extraterritorial buildings, which house the offices of several key Curial departments were excluded from analysis because of the proximity of tourists, pilgrims, and the general public to those buildings on a daily basis.

https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/location-based-apps-pose-security?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoyMzg2NTg4NywicG9zdF9pZCI6MzkyNzMyOTcsIl8iOiJuQ1JBVCIsImlhdCI6MTYyNzQxMDM4OCwiZXhwIjoxNjI3NDEzOTg4LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjI4MDMwIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.KHh6YYuSHAtLTeollFVH4k7oJFaU8ZdU5MUOEX4uYy8

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This may be the single news story which progresses the relations of the rest of the world with cathbots.
Nobody can doubt their rank hypocrisy from their behaviour here. To have it made so clear combined with their current descent into financial crimes as well as their sexual crimes should be a turning point in nations’ actions towards the unholy see.

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No, 2.08. This selling of data will drive away existing customers for fear of being blackmailed, and will deter new ones.
Grindr is digging its own grave.

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Blackmailed, 5:08? Are you living in the fifties?
The days are gone when being a homosexual led to blackmail and loss of jobs. And if you are frightened of being blackmailed, perhaps you shouldn’t be a priest and also on Grindr.

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9.14

I’m neither a priest, nor on Grindr.

Many heterosexually married men are on Grindr; they have a lot to lose, through blackmail, if discovered.

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It’s only a matter of time until signal app data related to Irish clergy is purchased, parsed and analysed.

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Take The Pillar to court then. When Grindr users click the “I agree” box when they first use it, they consent to sale of data. It is in the terms and conditions.

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2:52 pm – What about these ministers of Satan masquerading as priests on an app with the following description:

“What is Grindr? According to the website VICE’s guide to using the gay hook-up app, it’s not like a gay version of the hetero dating app Tinder:
If you picture Tinder’s interface like a filtration system, imagine Grindr like wading through a swamp with no shoes on. Anyone can send you unsolicited nudes as their icebreaker. ANYONE. There’s no degree of separation for a vetting process, it’s just a bunch of thirsty dudes in geographic cesspools hunting one another.

Because it’s not like Tinder, you shouldn’t be modeling your Grindr profile like one. Tinder is where you can post vacation photos with maybe a family member or best girlfriend to make it look like you’re a fun and functional human being. Don’t do that on Grindr. Grindr is for hookups, without having to go through the boring formalities like “What’s your name?” or “What do you do when the sun is up?”

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/grindr-gay-priests-of-newark-the-pillar/

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Time is a great anesthetic. Happened years ago. What are the practical steps being taken in terms of Faith Ministry and Mission. Is Jesus a victim of institutional abuse

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It’s all very well for you to say that, Sean, but for victims the pain persists, no matter how long the abuse occurred.

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Paul Prior was removed from the Jesuits. Prior broke the terms of the requirement to maintain a daily journal of his whereabouts and have this signed by his assigned Designated liaison person.

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Pat this was due to a disclosure by a Jesuit Novice against Paul Prior’s provocation. Prior was assigned a DLP to monitor his movements while under investigation. One of the terms was for Prior to fill out a daily journal log of his daily activities and whereabouts. The journal needed to be witnessed and signed by his DLP every second day. Prior broke ther terms and went AWOL.

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Paul Prior was subject to a complaint made against him by another Jesuit seminarian, as stated by Saoirse Fox (Jesuit Child Safeguarding Officer).

Let’s stop muddying the water here.

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There were actually THREE complaints to the Jesuits, two from young men and one from a novice.

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Prior has a further reason to add to his never following through with his solicitor’s letter against this blog: Fr. Leonard Maloney S.J. and Saoirse Fox will be subpoenaed and forced to reveal in a court of law which person internal to the Irish Jesuit Order hacked, or was party to hacking, Saoirse Fox’s email and used said email address to both communicate with and mislead persons external to the Irish Jesuit Order.

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The SJs are one mixed up crew. On the one hand they are incredibly right on, all into justice and peace, the preferential option for the poor, upholders of the rights of refugees, focused on climate change and preachers of liberation theology.
Then, on the other hand, they have a huge investment portfolio and a vast network of private schools and universities for the rich, which do so much to embed and perpetuate class privilege.
Which is the real Jesuit charism – Belvedere, Stoneyhurst and Georgetown, or the JRS and living in Dublin Corporation flats in Ballymun?

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PRIOR AND JESUITS

There seems to previously untold stories about Prior and the SJs emerging.

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I’ d never heard of Badoo or Skoot either. I’d say they’re swing from the chandeliers in Rome 😁

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You on Tinder for men, Scruff, Growlr, Fabguys. or Squirt what do you prefer.
Never been on any meeting sex site but our PI’S watch them when ticked off and the saunas too.
Getting data is hard in the UK and Ireland due to GDPR.
And Clergy would not give over their personal mobiles you just need to ask Fintan about his two sex Priests AKA Ger and Jerry.
they should all have diocesan email addresses and any contact to do with the Parish should not be on personal mobiles or email addresses.

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The Jesuit’s are associated with:
The Refugee Centre (Sarah Teather former Liberal Democrat MP – huge salary no doubt and v earnest, seldom smiles. She played a key role in turning on Charles Kennedy and turning that political screw).
Arizona and Roman Observatory: they are into the stars – Fr Chris Moss (I know you couldn’t make it up) is among one of many science nerds. Not sure what contribution they make the world science – makes up for doing the dirty on Galileo.
Stonyhurst: Snob central – old boys bang on about being former pupils – Lord Alton springs to mind and I think Charles Whitehead and Paul Johnson.
The Gregorian (The Greg): Less money for old rope than more degrees for old boys – seldom does a priest fail an exam – STLs for the boys.
Heythrop: Off the wall theology and no more as far as I can gather.
Farm Street: Jesuit HQ/UK – Mayfair, loaded and don’t they know it.
Martin Scorsese film about Jesuit’s in Japan losing their faith and getting off with Japanese totty was v good – at least they weren’t abusing kids.
Counter Reformation: Key players but got more into torture and the Inquisition than the gospel.
Jesuit a by word for subterfuge, duplicity and deception – nothing changed on that front.
Famous Jesuits or Js; Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Charles Borromeo, Cardinal Bea, Peter de Rosa.
Maybe we are seeing the demise of religious orders – they had their hay day but all that remains is pay massive compensation to victims of child abuse and shit the whole thing down.
How many Jesuit’s does it take to change a lightbulb? Two, one to change the lightbulb, the other to nag you to death about the preferrential option for the poor whilst living embarrassing luxury.

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Not forgetting the two British ex-Jesuits who packed in the priesthood and then spent the rest of their lives hanging around the Church, to good lucrative effect.
I’m talking about Michael Walsh, writer of popular church history books and heterodox tv talking head, to whom the Jesuits gave the sincecure of librarian of Heythrop; and Peter Hebblethwaite, a heterodox Vaticanologist and commentator. I often saw his wife at Mass at Greyfriars, Oxford. Peter, of course, didn’t go to Mass.

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Sarah Teather now says she’s in favour of same-sex marriage and repents of having voted against it when she was an MP.
I hope she also repents of austerity, which she as an Orange Book Libdem, voted for every time when in coalition.
The Irish Jesuits are no better. Their so-called social theologian is an ex-Catholic turned Presbyterian, who was a lay student in Maynooth.

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It’s not clear what work he is actually doing from the website. In Wrexham he is likely to be at St Beuno’s, though.
I see he admitted some of the charges.

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@.9.40pm do schools or youth visit? How come he has been allowed to remain a priest. Shouldn’t he be living a life of prayer and penance and forbidden to present himself as a priest? It’s staggering to be honest.

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Unfortunately all too often the reaction of some in the church to complains or concerns raised is to attempt to pacify people, pat them down until it blows over. Invariably it never blows over but things come to a head in an irreparable way. A priest of my previous acquaintance who took this attitude to an issue in his parish has since been appointed the designated liason person for safeguarding in the diocese. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️The jesuits need to face up to this situation in an open and impartial way, where the needs of the people affected are truly met, this is the only thing which can bring closure.

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The source for Paul Prior’s troubles was the Ronan Drury encounters. Encounters of a violation to one’s body in a physical provocation. Meaning dressed up fetish theme parties of princess, baby girl and super woman.

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Pat will you please stop letting this person print shite about Ronan Drury? How the f**k did a grown man like Prior let a small built man like Ronan abuse him? Why didn’t Prior report him or punch him or walk out? Stop letting whoever this is tear a dead man’s reputation to pieces!

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It’s shocking the fall of Paul Prior from his position of authority and control over young males. 😳

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Pat look more into which seminarians and Priests have a DLP assigned to them. Some seminarians just are on and off from the monitoring protocols. It depends on relapse.

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