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IS ARMAGH CLAIMING THAT MC CAMLEY PASSED SAFEGUARDING VETTING?

Mc Camley blessing school with altar boy

IS IT TRUE THAT AMY MARTIN AND ARMAGH ARE CLAIMING THAT FR MC CAMLEY HAS BEEN PASSED BY SAFEGUARDING FOR A RETURN TO MINISTRY?

To appoint McCamley to a ministry, it would be proper to give safeguarding an imput.

They would have to find that he did not pose a risk to children and vulnerable adults.

But we know he had the habit of showing his genitalia online to other men of all ages.

We also know he expressed an interest in men up to the age of 90.

Many people between the ages of 70 and 90 are vulnerable.

Will Father Mc Camley have access to ghe internet through computers, laptops and smart phones?

Is that not a risk factor?

Can a man of his age, with a deeply embedded habit of seeking covert gay sexual satisfaction control that impulse?

We even know if Fr McCamley has engaged in any counselling or therapy since his alarming behaviour as PP of Keady, Co. Armagh.

Amy has had him wandering the parishes of Co. Louth for over a year now – Co. Louth, where successive archbishops of Armagh have always sent their problem priests.

THE PEOPLE OF DUNGANNON:

Fr McCamley has been landed on the people of Dungannon without Amy Martin consulting anyone.

The parishioners are worried about their sons and youth.

And I’m sure Dungannon has its 70 to 90-year-old males too.

Apparently, last Sunday after Mass people were overheard asking: “Is the naughty priest here yet” ?

RETIREMENT?

Should Fr McCamley not just have retired?

Why is Amy determined to keep him and impose him on parishes and parishioners?

It seems that Amy is afraid to tackle misbehaving priests?

Is Amy ridiculously weak?

And if he is, why is he an archbishop and primate?

Maybe he needs to retire too?

This appointment calls into question the intelligence, judgement and commitment to safeguarding of the current RC incumbent of Armagh.

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132 replies on “IS ARMAGH CLAIMING THAT MC CAMLEY PASSED SAFEGUARDING VETTING?”

Ah, having failed abysmally in the topic of today to elicit hatred towards the bishops, you pounce once again on Fr. McCamley. You know of course this will gather you lots of hate speech. You are pathetic and a wretched person. Actually the photo of yourself from your Dublin travels says it all: A wizend, catty, aged, sinister person, parading yourself as God almighty! God help you. Really, you should pray for God’s mercy.

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Oh father dear you are an auld bitch. Your defence of the auld nonces demonstrates a remarkable, albeit misplaced loyalty to your fellow clerical perverts.

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The holy priests are sounding increasingly desperate in their attempts to hush up their colleagues’ misbehaviour.

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So you attack the messenger not the message. What is your view on the “rehabilitation” of Fr McCamley? Do you think that online masturbation and sexual partner-seeking is proper behaviour for a parish priest?

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I think Pat’s intention is to reveal truth. If that elicits “hatred towards the bishops” then the source of that is in reaction to the bishop’s exposed behaviour, not Pat. Would you rather the behaviour of bishops be hidden? It sounds as if you are unhappy with the revelation of truth and would prefer the secret abuse world of the 1950s. Perhaps you might consider addressing the issue, not the man.

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This lying denier won’t get out from behind her poison keyboard.
Shes the attack dog for the perverts and the bishops. She won’t answer you because she knows she can’t. She’s the epitome of the problem but knows her filthy comments will still be published here,unfortunately. Best to ignore the pathetic old queen in denial.

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Hilarious, you are missing something important here. While you make out that your own agenda is to call out Pat’s ‘hatred’, and then reveal the bitchy contents of your mind, most clergy love gossip about current scandals. Hence the paucity of comments yesterday. Of all people you should recognise the queeny tendencies of the clergy, dear.

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Did Fr McCamley shave his pubic hair in the photographs he was distributing of his penis? Gerontophilia is an “erotic age orientation” in which one is most strongly aroused by the elderly, and so it is at the opposite end of the spectrum from pedophilia. In fact, perhaps the most bizarre theory concerning its etiological (or clinical) origins was put forth, without any supporting data, by the British psychiatrist T. C. Gibbens in 1982. He argued that gerontophiles are likely to have underlying pedophilic tendencies as well, with both paraphilias stemming from a phobia of pubic hair.

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11.31
You are somewhat out of your depth when you move into the area of etiology.

Firstly, it’s not a synonym for clinical. Secondly, it should never qualify the word ‘origins’ because they are metonyms.,

If you grasp as little of what your post attempts to convey as these blunders reveal, the thrash you have compiled is excusable.

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But McCamley is still a nonce despite your highfalutin use of the English language. I wouldn’t want him placing Holy Communion on my grandpa’s tongue. He’s a reprobate and should resign his orders.

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Surely a priest who had done that would be difficult to place and could perhaps spend the rest of his life in a monastery.
No, wait. I foresee problems with that plan.

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I’m in my seventies and would relish meetings with this priest. I may need viagra but I am not past it yet.

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All the haters, mockers, condemners and crushers are out in force: all Pat’s loyal lynch mob. Yes, indeed, following Christ’s command for mercy, forgiveness, tolerance, helping others in their sinful fallings and failings – all are thrashed by haters on this blog. The gospel of Christ while not lived by priests in any abuse committed, still remainscforbthecso called perfect ones. Thank God none of you were around when the woman caught in adultery was exposed. You’d all have chased her to the cliff edge and rolled her over. Jesus, really is a name only to the lynch mobbers. He’s not real.

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8.42: Once you’re down on the ground, kicked about, crushed over and over, you are a heap if junk in the minds of Pat and his hate cohorts. While any abuse or improper behaviour is morally repugnant, it is disgusting that an ongoing sledgehammer condemnation continues against people who have already been judged and humiliated. I wonder about Jesus standing in front of the brave nasty judgers? What advice would he give you lot?

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The arrogant Armagh clergy are out in force today on the blog. Defending the indefensible. Head in the sand mentality!!!

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Pat at 10:13 they’re too eager to cover up any misconduct by priests to actually face the reality for parishioners.
They’ll be horrified when the increasing movement to defund the church catches up with them. Increasingly you read in social media belonging to all sorts of groups in the church, an increasing understanding that the only way to make the church answerable is to stop giving money.
When this starts to bite it will be the parish priests who are not paid first and then they’ll all start hand wringing saying there was nothing they could do.
Parishioners of Dungannon: if you don’t want this man there, stop giving money but instead put a note in to say this is why.

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9.07
Welcome to the world of metaphor, simile and allegory! How have you existed for so long without them? If you do participate in the church’s liturgy on a frequent basis, you’ll find that in order for its treasures to enrich the participants, the liturgy of the word requires some familiarity with figures of speech.

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I wouldn’t be seen dead in the church’s liturgy, far too busy completing my DPhil at Cambridge.
Have you ever heard of a little joke, ‘father’?

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This man should NEVER be permitted to minister again EVER! This is appalling. What is Éamon Martin thinking and playing at?

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Redemption isn’t the subject here. The parishioners don’t redeem him you dunderhead. The subject is scandal, inappropriate sexual behaviour and a lack of accountability by the bishop. Plus a desire to cover up on your part.
BTW if you’re Fr McCamley, retire now. You can’t both be a priest and waving your nob on Grindr.

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10:10 thanks for making that information available for any interested nonagenarian.

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9.41
You haven’t the remotest grasp of the sacramental nature of Christianity. When did you last attend?

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@11:43 It was holy Saturday 1957.
Perhaps you would like to explain since you claim I don’t understand. I literally can’t wait to hear this.

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Before I even come to the sentence, “Should Fr McCamley not just have retired?” I thought the same thing.

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My favorite bible passage is the one where Jesus speaks to the men about to stone a woman caught in adultery. He says, ‘I could go down the feminist route in condemning your actions, or even take this as an opportunity to indicate that I am the end of the Law. But because I’m in a Church of Rome mood, I’ll just tell you to keep quiet about this and trust the bishop has this in hand, because the bishop knows the woman’s situation, has had her assessed at St Luke’s, and it’s nothing to do with the faithful. This is without prejudice, by the way.’

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10.08
Most of your favourite Bible passages over the last months make one thing clear: the truth of Sacred Scripture, as distinct from the motifs through which it’s conveyed has not yet penetrated your psyche.

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Don’t worry ‘father’, when I become so disturbed as to buy in to the church’s sinful view that covering up abuse is a Christian thing to do, you’ll be the first to know.

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My second favorite bible passage is the one where Jesus tells the disciples to ignore what he says because he has made the church the guardians of revelation.

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Dungannon has replaced Louth as the refuge for naughty priests. Where has Fr McAQueer gone too? Joe Quinn was also there at one stage. Who will be next? Rory or the Pomeroy porn priest?

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10.36
You are the sinner as if you have information take it to the Police or Social Services.
If not stop attacking peoples Characters.

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All said I do feel it a poor management decision from Archbishop Eamon, Fr McCamley should have done the honourable deed and retired.
Pat you need to take a deep look at yourself- the bruising and battering you land on those that done wrong is disgusting and shameful from a man that calls himself a Priest!
I do not believe you have a Christian or charitable bone in your frail weak body!

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11.59: But your ability to act in persona Christi is very battered with hatred. Therein lies your moral frailty and weakness.

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You are all been unfair keyboard wizards against Archbishop Eamon Martin ( I am no friend of his) and the safeguarding teams both at Diocesan Level and National level.
And I guess you do not trust Aidan Gordon.
There has been NO yes NO official complaints against Father Eamon McCamley
So admin@aracoeli.com for Archbishop Martin or ekelly@archdioceseofarmagh.com or speak to Eleanor direct 075 8432 3138 maybe Aidan as well safeguardingdirector@archdioceseofarmagh.com 078 4110 1687
They will answer all your concerns.
However there likely be no emails or calls as usually as you have had your five minutes of fame on Pat’s Blog

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ROFL are you seriously claiming that vetting should only take place when prompted by a formal complaint?

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12.34
Vetting is done at all times and constant training is done.

however people in glasses houses should not throw stones .
Have you been on safeguarding courses or ever though of highlighting a concern.

I agree Father McCamley should NOT be in a Parish however under Church law he is a Priest and the Bishop must appoint him unless he has Genuine complaints that will stand up or the Bishop would be seen victimising a Priest.

i take it Bishop Pat and his Priests have all hand recent disclosures (3 yearly) and he runs safeguarding course for anyone volunteering and Social Services do a lot of them for Free.

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Making any call or complaint to either Eamon Martin, Eleanor or Mr Gordon would be as useless as a grave robber in a crematorium and a one legged man in an arse kicking competition.

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I emailed a complaint to Ara Caeli about two priests and got a reply from a lay secretary saying it would be dealt with. To this day I’ve heard diddly squat.

They could at least have said that the matter was being looked at, or that it had been considered and there was no case to answer. Instead, just silence.

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1.45
The Diocesan Secretary is Paul Mallon who is also a Deacon however the reply you have received is from diocesan admin staff is correct
And they have given you the legal answer the matter would be dealt with NO organisation or Company is going to divulge any answers in case of litigation.
However be rest assumed if there were no case to answer you would certainly be well informed of that so they have found something not to the Archbishops liking.
If you feel there is more to say to Ara Coeli then please do but be rest assured everything is read and actioned.
It is just the case of any litigation so therefore everything is dealt with.

Can I say if it were against Clergy then remember not all Clergy are honest to their Bishops and fellow Clergy.

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Every parishioner will know of their parish priests same-sex attraction to male seniors. They will know of the compromising use of a sex hook up app and his mucky pictures. They will laugh at him behind his back and he will not be taken seriously. He should have retired or left as going back to ministry just is not feasible. The parishioners will be wondering why the bishop has appointed such a man. Have we done something wrong? The only way to confront it is if at his induction as PP he faces it head on, apologises and promises he will give heart and soul to serving the people of DUNGANNON. People will forgive but if he parades in as nothing happened then he will have no chance.

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12.15
If sexual attraction is a problem, then everone reading this has a problem, including especially yourself who have two: first, sexual attraction (already mentioned by you as a problem) and secondly, and more seriously, that you believe sexual attraction is a problem to be resolved.

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Benedict has made it clear that same sex attraction is disordered, it’s your own RC teaching.

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Yes although what he ruled out was a long term same sex attraction being ruled out for seminary. He said it was fine if they were only prison gay.

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12.15
Father Eamon McCamley is NOT going as a Parish Priest he is going to assist and there is a massive difference in being a Parish Priest than a Curate.
The Vicar General, Dean and Canon of the Cathedral Chapter Very Rev Kevin Donaghy is the Parish Priest with FULL responsibility.
However Ara Coeli and Safeguarding is awaiting contact from anyone even canon Donaghy would like to meet or speak to the people but they all want to be faceless.
The Archbishops is not avoiding anything he has a duty by canon Law and until father McCamley says it is not for him then he needs to appoint him and he is under the Third highest person in the Archdioceses of Armagh

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This comment is in such typical church speak it’s hilarious. Translated into English it means, ‘We will only do anything if forced to but are certainly not going to be proactive and want it to look like we don’t know anything and everyone else is being difficult’.
This is the most classic bishops’move of obfuscation there is.

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The people don’t care if a person is a parish priest, curate, Rt Revd, Very Revd, or Most Reverend, a Canon or a Monsignor – how high or how low he is in the absurd clerical pecking order, whether he has red buttons and a purple fascia or a grey clerical shirt and polyester suit. A priest is a priest as far as they are concerned, and should not be wanking online, sending pictures of their shrivelled old cock, or seeking out male OAPs for their sexual kicks.

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5.06pm Why should anyone trust Eamon Martin, useless Router or Donaghy as third highest person in Armagh? They never consulted the people about landing this priest on them. They have no respect for the people or regard. This will backfire on Armagh and they only have themselves to blame. People have had enough of the dictating from the diocese and will not stand for it.

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12.35
I hope so. That’s the central message of Christianity: sin does not have the final word.
And, btw, there are many other kinds of sin apart from sexual sin. But, redemption applies to all of them too.

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I let my dog regularly piss up on cardinal dalys tomb. Respect? The wee rat eyed fucker covered up years of abuse. Instead of a tomb he should of been placed in the brown bin to be collected on Friday.
As for the writ @11am talking about his doting Nun aunt who was skillful at beating children. Well she deserves the same treatment as Daly.
We were hammered by those wicked basterds who got profit and joy at causing misery to innocent children, ruining the start of their lives and carrying scars for the rest of it

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12.42: Disgusting behaviour. It is hateful. You should be reported and face prison. This is pure evil and poisonour behaviour. I hooe you’ll be caught. In fact I shall inform PSNI and cemetery authorities to scan the CCTV..

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Haha PSNI have got better things to do then look for Jack Russells peeing on child abuse enablers tombs….

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12.42 You obviously life a sad life what a post!
You’d be best place visiting a doctor in St. Lukes, may be able to help your deluded head.

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1.17: Just you wait and see. Thanks for the information you imparted. I’ll ensure with others that you’ll be caught. Keep a watchful eye!! And it won’t be a Jack Russell that will be set upon you, vile creature. Watch the cameras…

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12.42: Mr. Nasty Demented Hugges: that’s a bike act to carry out. You’ll be caught one day, which I hope will happen soon. Seek professional therapy for your vile, evil satanic behaviour.

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A bike act? Sounds like some perversion a priest would be into.
Or is there a seminary bike like many an office has an office bike.

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Perhaps he adopted KOBs Jack Russell and it loves to relieve itself bad cardinals graves? BTW I am sure PSNI will find interesting material on your hard drive you box of frogs…

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It’s literally just struck me what is so wrong with the way the cathbots talk about hiding scandal as redemption.
Surely in Christian theology (which is the way the word is being used) redemption refers to the redemption bought by Christ from sin and damnation. The more general non theological use of the word (for example a garment beyond being repaired may be called beyond redemption) would I think be more fitting here, because it is referring to somebody carrying on their career despite an almighty mistake.
The community do not redeem anyone in the sense of redemption from sin, so it seems like it is not the right word to use.
However I am disturbed by the way a connection is made between revealing what is happening with this priest and redemption. It is dangerously intruding the treatment of an erring priest into the redemption and it seems like he is being put into the place of Christ? Or else the redemption wrought by Christ is connected with keeping it secret?

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12.47
Or, from what you write, the redemption wrought by Jesus is ineffective and we must die in our sin.

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So let’s get this clear. The cathbots think a priest who has been waving his bits online should just be forgiven and allocated as priest to a community which hasn’t been consulted on this, warned in any way and if they don’t like it they are unchristian?
Have I got that right?
That’s exactly what they always said about the kiddy fiddlers and nothing has changed.

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Priests who have displayed these tendencies are completely unfit for the sacred priesthood, that is crystal clear. But what of men, whom through coverup and deception, facilitated the abuse of children: are they fit to exercise the sacred priesthood? Is not their moral character equally inappropriate for such an office.

In the Dominican Black ABBEY in kilkenny city their resides a former provincial, who during his time in office moved, covered up and lied about a child abuser, thus allowing the abuse of dozens of children. He is an expert on everything from spirituality to rocket science: but guess what , he didn’t know that rapeing children was wrong. Is his moral character fit to exercise ministry in the church?

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What would you have to do to be expelled from Maynooth? Apart from believe the Catholic faith, that is.

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1.5+: Ask Magna Carta.. He was flipped through the front door, down the steps and out the gates as quick as lightning…I think he was a catholic and had faith!!! Something else was very askew……..

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In Maynooth, having multiple private viewings in first year of your extensive underwear collection is no hindrance to ordination or to later joining the staff there.

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If Amy isn’t bothered about a priest who does this and doesn’t at the very least have the respect to engage with the parish, what else is he hiding among his clergy?

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2.01
Archbishop Eamon and Bishop Michael is more than willing to engage with the parishioners but they need to come forward.
They will NOT speak to keyboard wizards as that can be from anyone.

everyone knows the Ger story on here well Bishop Fintan cannot accuse Ger he has made it clear that he believes Yvonne but has no access to Ger’s fone or messenger, Facebook so that is how it is paramount for evidence for all Bishops to act.

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Them two useless articles in Armagh should have engaged with parishioners BEFORE and not after this appointment was made. They don’t mind taking the parishioners for granted and treating them like shite. When will they get it or learn?

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1.36
Jim S. wiill you confine your illiterate comments to the land of your adoption. There are enough prelates there to maintain your delusion that you know their minds.

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It’s just as well that the Law Society or the General Medical Council don’t have the “forgive, forget and shut up you moaner” approach to complaints about dodgy solicitors and dodgy docs that the Cathbots want for Fr McCamley and the like.

Fr McCamley can be forgiven, bht his behaviour is so egregious as to make him unsafe for public ministry. Had Fr McCamley acted in that way in the seminary he wouldn’t have been ordained, so why has he the right to continue and not be laicised?

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He has not been forgiven. We don’t want known perverts saying Mass and coming across as if butter wouldn’t melt. This creep should be made retire into obscurity. The porn priest too is still allowed to do Mass and act as if nothing ever happened. The people of Dungannon should protest.

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3.08
He may not havebeen forgiven by you (in which case you are advised tot to pray the Lord’s Prayer) buttha kfully you speak only for yourself and not for God or the church.

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‘God and the church’
Sodomy is one of the four sins crying out to heaven for vengeance. You and the church may be ok with that but according to sacred scripture, God is not.

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7.46
Unlike you, God is not obsessed with sex.
The majority of instances of sodomy occur in heterosexual contexts.
An inventory of your sexual practices and positions would be an interesting document to provide a context to your post.

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So let’s get this clear: ‘redemption’ applies to all forms of sin.
So if I murder my mother you’ll let me serve mass in your church the day after?

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Why was Mgr Grindr, the Gen Sec of the USCCB required to resign but Fr McCamley is allowed back? Are we also to expect the return of Dr Rory?

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3.26
PROOF and people willing to stand up and be counted and not just have their daily moan on Pat’s blog.
Why has No one even reported father Eamon McCamley to the congregation of Clergy as Archbishop Martin would not want contact from the C.O.C.

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No dear, you’re just being silly now. If an ’employee’ of an organization messes up that organization deals with it. If your point had any validity Miss would still be where she was before.
Amy has already taken action without any proof so your argument is ridiculous.
To touch briefly on the subject of the post today – the burden of proof required in a criminal conviction is nowhere near required for safeguarding to take action.
You’re just trying to divert from Miss like all your ilk do.
What do you expect? An item from Monica Lewinsky’s wardrobe?

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He ought to resign as a priest and seek dismissal from the clerical state. I mean holding the sacred host up high one moment and then applying KY jelly between his voluminous buttocks…

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9.49
You are a non-Christian dualist. Faith and sexuality are not mutually exclusive but complementary.

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I love the way he says he kept his relationship secret. How would anyone ever think he was straight?

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They knew last weekend and they were asking when the pervert priest was arriving after Mass. Some parents threatening to withdraw their children from parish schools. Oh they know in Dungannon big time that McCamley is being imposed on them.

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The allegations against McCamley only ever appeared on this blog – nowhere else. Or did they?
Obviously, Eamon Martin is showing what he thinks of this blog – taking it and Buckley with a pinch of salt.
He ignored Buckley when he also threatened to go public about the Armagh deacon if I remember correctly? It’s hard to keep track of all that goes on here.

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Yes. I love that the church does that because their sense of entitlement and privilege is what will make states impose control on it.
The hierarchy and clergy have shown that they will not keep their own house in order and have brought this on themselves.

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The allegation came with photographic proof which is why Amy moved McCamley so quickly. Please keep up will you.

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08/05/2021 at 3:04 pm
1.17: Just you wait and see. Thanks for the information you imparted. I’ll ensure with others that you’ll be caught. Keep a watchful eye!! And it won’t be a Jack Russell that will be set upon you, vile creature. Watch the cameras…
That sounds like a threat. Load of bollocks. Hope your pervert friends don’t do anything to my dog.
Listening to yourself pisding your pants. Plus the psni can do fuck all about a dog taking a wee. And you say I’m deluded

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I wonder if the +Aul Doll will defy you, Bp Pat. And you are giving her all that free publicity too.

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9.01

The rebarbative is swinging her reticule once again. You have no place in civilised debate.

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Yes, with moons like his the abbot should keep them covered up. I am sure he’s a low hanger too. Dirty old beast.

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Ordinarily you’d retire him early and send him to a priests retirement home but given his tendencies probably not safe for the elderly residents.

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