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A READING FROM THE SECOND LETTER TO GLASWEGIANS.

MASS FROM THE ORATORY. 21 ST SUNDAY OF THE YEAR. 22.8.21

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213 replies on “A READING FROM THE SECOND LETTER TO GLASWEGIANS.”

Interesting that one of the evo street preachers is an ex-republican prisoner, so presumably formerly a Catholic.

As I am sure you witnessed when you ministered in the Maze prison, Pat, a fair few Catholic prisoners turned evo because it eased their conscience, thanks to the evo doctrine that their version of being born again wipes away all guilt and sin doesn’t really matter because Jesus covers it up and the saved go to heaven, no matter what they did or do, simply on the strength of taking Jesus as their personal saviour.

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9.33
In the sacrament of reconciliation all sin is forgiven where the one wishing to be reconciled genuinely seeks forgiveness. While it is good that people find peace, there’s no need for anyone to move outside the church in order to do so.

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12.52
There is every reason under the sun to move away from your church: priesthood and priests.
Christ did not order the confession of sin to romanist priests, but to God himself. And this confession, priest, is expressed in sincere recitation of The Lord’s Prayer.

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9.33: Thank God these men are changed by his Word, Jesus Christ. I’ve met some exceptional ex prisoners, people genuinely remorseful of their wrindoing and criminality. Surely if they choose Jesus, isn’t that commendable? And moreso, if these men hear the Word of God from evangelicals. It might prove that some other people’s supposed ministry and preaching is unappealing!! Catholic “shepherds” and bishops could learn from these street preachers.

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That old monster Luther – who today would be put on anti-psychotics to deal with his hearing of voices and his psychosomatic illnesses and obsession with caca – told his followers to “sin boldly” or “sin strong”.

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9.57

Luther would be on anti-psychotics?😅 Oh, dear! I wonder how many romanist ‘visionaries’, ‘seerers’, and ‘locutionists’ would be joining him? People like Bernadette Soubirous, Joan of Arc, and Jean Vianney.

As for psychsomatic illnesses, that fat Italian friar and fraud, Pio, is a classic example of this kind of mental disorder.

In romanist parlance, ‘seeing’ white mice or pink elephants is not acceptable, but ‘seeing’ the Virgin Mary is. 😕

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What you are really saying is that even Roman Catholics don’t believe the church’s bizarre teaching that whispering your sins into some deviant’s ear in a cupboard will somehow result in you getting away with murder.
If you don’t like the caricature of the sacrament of reconciliation in this comment, I suggest you think carefully about the attitude you display towards other in your comment.

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9.39: I said nothing of the kind. My comment was a response to what Pat preached at his mass yesterday where he took a swipe at backward bible hall preachers. If any person chooses to join such a group to study the bible and seek to preach that Word and live by It, that’s commendable, even if strident at times. We must respect their right to freedom of expression and right to protest. Pat queried these rights, conveniently forgetting that his blog flouts moral and ethical principles by allowing much hate inciting rhetoric. Some of the commentary on this blog is poisonous, designed to smash people to pieces. Incidentally, I believe in the grace given through the Sacrament of Penance. I recommend it to genuine Catholic Christians. And yes, our pastors and bishops have not always inspired or sufficiently encouraged the reading and study of the Word of God. I merely speak the truth when I observe that some ministers/priests of GOD might learn from the street preachers!! As for your odious caricature – trailer trash, gutter genre!!

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@10:13 I was genuinely impressed with the measured nature of your comment until I got to the end and found that you had returned to your usual strategy of calling everyone else trailer trash. An interesting insight into your classist mindset ‘father’, or do you prefer to be called ‘daddy’?

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Goodness so much hate speech towards Protestants and so early in the day. And you wonder why your churches are emptying at a place.

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10.47: Nothing you posted impressed me:::::when you ignorantly and arrogantly caricature people’s faith, expect a strong robust defence…..I wouldn’t fit your “daddy” expectations. You’ll need to go elsewhere.

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So an opinion, a point needs to be labelised, not just publicly but by your standards to gratify its legitimisey and gratify your point lol

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Mr Keenan must regret starting this ball rolling. You and Mr “you’re havin’ a laugh” Lafferty are almost penpals at this stage. Next you’ll be going round to his for dinner.

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I think the best bit is that Betty Turpin is hereafter referred to as Mr Keenan.

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In one of the episodes Betty said that a pinch of thyme was her secret recipe. In her will she left the recipe to her son, Billy, and told him that the real secret recipe was Guinness.
Plenty of secrets did Betty have.

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Still no names, Pat.
Correct me, if I am wrong, but: first you said you would publish, then you had not made up your mind, now you say you await legal advice.
Ultimately, if you do not publish the names then you are really covering up for these rent boy / daisy chain men every bit as much as is John Keenan. And so you would be a hypocrite to criticise him.
You say the info has been sent to Rome, the Nuncio, +Keenan and a journalist.
However, +Keenan, the Nuncio and Rome will just bury the info, as so often before. How do you think we ever got to this stage?
The journalist will do nothing. Secular society does not agree with the Church as regards celibacy or homosexuality, and so these things in themselves are not a story.
Publish I say again, or delete the articles. Anything else is just attention seeking.
I am sure I could guess several names in Glasgow and Motherwell Dioceses (I am not familiar with Paisley). Do I have you permission to make my guesses here?
The late +Tartaglia was criticised by commentators in previous articles. He was not a bad man: a nice, gentle and welll liked man in fact. A hopeless Bishop right enough, whose leadership was so meek as to be anonymous. Absolutely hopeless, like they all are these days. No clue as to what he should have been doing. Hopefully his successor will at least have a clue, although I do not hold my breath.
Publish or delete I say!

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11.32
Totally agree names have to come out.
They are lying and covering up.
Pat seems to enjoy letter writing but the Names or as a minimum the scale of how may in each dioceses, Pat mentions 21 but is that Glasgow as Glaswegians.
Name them now rather than turning into Coronation Street.
Pat’s fear the last tow days Betty Turpin has been dropped so has Pat been told to stop the derogatory names.

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Bishop Pat,
You have a real way with words. Your letter is to the point and leaves little unsaid.
Your points to John Keenan don’t leave much room to manoeuvre. I wonder what his inquiry will consist of ? Given he must have been the person dealing with the situation in the first place, what does he not know already ?
What won’t happen, which you mention in your letter, is that he’ll contact you. That won’t happen in a month of Sundays!

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6.55
John Keenan has admitted to holding an investigation or complaint so the Cathedral Precincts will be busy with the Priests, Curates, Housekeepers all to be interviewed.

John Keenan CANNOT use any for his own Curia as they are all named one way or another in this situation so it will need to be someone impartial and totally independent as Rome will want to see the documentation.

John Keenan has been a fool to open this can of worms as it is not worms but snakes.

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11.12
For the avoidance of Doubt and I understand your distrust and maybe because you do not know how the Organisation work so I hope Pat prints this.

The days of cover up are well gone and what Pat has refused to say the situation is away to Cardinal Marc Ouellet who is the Prefect for the Congregation of Bishops and also to Cardinal Pietro Parolin.

John Keenan has stated that he is holding an investigation of the complaints so therefore under Canon Law 1717 the African priest, the Curates and the parish concerned has housekeeping staff and maybe the sacristan of the Church so this will be all documented.

I do not think Archbishop Claudia Gugerotti will cover up for John Keenan in any way however his role is to send it all to the Vatican.

Other items regarding clergy who have parented Children and are in active Ministry has been also sent as Archbishop Philip refused to deal with any kind of sexual activity in the Archdioceses of Glasgow.

Philip Tartaglia was one of the nicest people you could met sadly he was not an Administrator like Conti who was only interested in money and very seldom said Holy Mass in the cathedral in fact they cancelled must in the Cathedral regular when him and his six Curia clergy were pen pushing in Clyde Street but Philip has made them all Canons.

So they can attack Philip’s leadership of the Archdioceses but they cannot attack the man Philip had a 2020 version as 20/30 parishes need amalgamated or closed but he was up against it and remember his previous VG has just married and another 3 of his Curia are in the Daisy Chain.

Sadly the Church cannot do or say anything to the undertaker however he has been mentioned on here as a “friend” of John Keenan so join the dots.

As for the daisy chain names they should come out for the avoidance of doubt however Pat will need to wait the reply from Lafferty who has been made a real clown off.

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10:50 damage Control such as yores is better Done with gud speling and with some reference to Reality

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Pat is cautious in his approach. If and when he releases names it will be at a time of his choosing.

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When will the donating fools awaken to the fact that romanist priests (and bishops) were NEVER intended by Chridt?

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5.06: Magna – more nonsense. More silly repeat verbiage. The time is very strange – 5.06: Did you not take your night pills? Or are you up for first mass? Who is “Chridt”…Of course you meant CHRIST – may I respectfully suggest that you refind Christ and absorb his spirit. Truly.

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10:18 You are not in a position to decide the relationship between Christ and somebody else. That is incredibly presumptuous.

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10.23
Christ left us the criterion by which to do so: By their fruits you shall know them.

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12:11 Screaming abuse on the internet like you do is not a good fruit. Magna has apologised for any offence he has caused and above expressed in a polite way an opinion held by many Christians.
Scum.

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Jesus’ public ministry was short. MC’s shrill one liner about what Jesus did or did not intend misses the central point: many legitimate developments in the history of Christianity may not have been intended by the historical Jesus but occurred as legitimate expressions of authentic ecclesial development.
Jesus didn’t found Christian communities all over the Ancient Near East. Paul spearheaded that process. QED

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12.07
Our model is Christ and, therefore, his words our instruction. If he did not call for the establishment of intermediary priesthood (and he did not), it was for a very obvious reason, one that you and others are choosing to disregard from highly vested interest: you are priests yourselves.
Hebrews makes crystal clear that intermediary priesthood, not just levitical priesthood, has been obviated by Christ’s death and resurrection; romanist priesthood has always presented itself as intermediary
That priests here are defending their ministerial status quo means that they are in blatant denial of what Jesus’ death and resurrection accomplished, according to Hebrews.Consequently, they are depriving believers of access to God’s grace, because it can come through, and from, only one legitimate source, Jesus himself.
If anyone is wondering why, in the history of Christianity, there has been so much immorality, so much sin and suffering, it is in very large part down to priests, who have starved believers of spiritual nourishment from God by usurping the role of Christ in presenting themselves as mediators, a role that Christ alone can fulfill. These men, priests, even have the gross audacity to boast of this usurption by lionising themselves as ‘other Christs’, when there is, and can be, only one.

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4.35
Homespun bible study is hamstrung by MS’s inability to situate biblical hermeneutics within a scholarly context.
Before drawing twee conclusions about how to interpret scriptural passages, it would improve your effort if you could introduce some of the main biblical commentators from the last two millennia – so, historical and current. He’ll very soon see the value of an argument from silence. His lack of familiarity with secondary literature betrays his amateur (i.e. homespun) starting point.

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It’s really surprising that MC can’t come up with any names, what with him having two doctorates and all.

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7.06
You again, positing the same old, declaratory nonsense and illogic.
Let’s see: there are no biblical scholars (in your opinion) who support such an obvious, biblically based, thesis, not homespun fancy; therefore the thesis cannot be true. I mean seriously?
No Hebrew scholar either at, or before, the time of Jesus believed that the Mashiach would be divine. Not one.
You set too much store by the opinions of biblical scholars and look what happens: you post the kind of half-baked balderdash which has come to typify you. And amuse me.

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7.38

There certainly wouldn’t be a RC scholar with the intellectual balls to hold such a view. If ever there were, he would immediately be ordered to silence, through ‘holy obedience’, by guess who. Priests.

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7.38
A prolix way of admitting ‘I can’t name a single biblical scholar who supports my bizarre and maverick position.’

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8.31
I don’t need a biblical scholar to support my thesis, you intellectually narrowed fool, anymore than Jesus needed the support of a Hebrew scholar for his claim to be divine.
I sincerely hope that you aren’t in a teaching role, for heads as poor as yours shouldn’t presume to instruct anyone in anything.

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11.42
You should try using spelling check your self.
Yours not yores
Spelling is spelling.
Pat people can see your speed typing it is more noticeable on your blog 😉

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12:43 Mi speling was delliberut. You have no idea even wear to putt caPittle letterS.
Plus everything yoo say is RUBbish. Iou ar not privie too any of the goings On in eny diocESe anywhere but yoo klame to bee.

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8.43

Are you really so dependent on others for intellectual self-validation that you’re incapable of original thought?

Biblical truth validates my thesis. No scholar necessary.

Learn to stand on your own two feet. Such dependency at your age is embarrassing, frankly.

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7.06: A fantastic riposte and challenge to the Wikipedia plagiarist, Maggie Copies Everything Carta. Then he is unable to answer you cogently at 7.38 without insult or put downs. He still hasn’t referenced any valid scripture scholars. He’s a charlatan.

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11:42am
You’re right, it’s Jim S at her best always so sad. Patsy should be wary of any gossip coming from that source. As sadly it probably stems from bitterness at not being part of The Daisy Chain.

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12.54
My Friends and Colleagues are allegedly part of this madness of a daisy chain after all we are ALL grown up Men and been Friends for decades.
Everyone is waiting to see the proof as that is the key factor here however on Pat’s computer equipment will be IP Addresses to all his correspondents and then we will see.
It is very sad when an individual who had to leave seminary has to go to this false level however at the end of the day it is Patrick Joseph Buckley who is placing people in fear and alarm and not his Anonymous bloggers
Pat has said he is willing to supply the Evidence and instruct 21 so far to the Court well we will be instructing a forensic examination of his computer to which the UK law enforcers agree.
People are allowed to have Friends for meals and go on holiday.
Jealousy is the route of Evil.

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Hey, Jim S., you know as much about IP addressess and courts as you do about Church matters, ie you know FA.

You have missed the point that Pat would relish the opportunity to clear the air in court. Only a court could direct release of IP addresses. After one day of sabre rattling, Mr Keenan lost his appetite for court proceedings so there will be no order to release IP addresses.

Incidentally, I googled “What is my IP address” and got this:

“My Public IPv6 is:
Not Detected
My IP Location: Edinburgh, SCT GB”

Lol, I’m typing this somewhere in Northern Ireland.

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Brilliant comment Magna and it’s really pissed off the holy priests who think they are the sole channel of divine grace. And they take PayPal.

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4.15
An IP Address leads to your internet provider then to your Mobile / Telephone number. so therefore it becomes human.
Have you been to Gartcosh and seen it all in action.
How do you think the Cyber Police catch people.

Canon 1717 has been checked and no action will be taking JK will just have a chat with his clergy.
The Vicar General of Paisley is a Canon Lawyer as well as PM and PM..

You can see who is interested in this story now down to 89 blogs only Austin Lafferty will make anything as the Clergy and Deacons will be sound as a pound 🙂

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Patsy whose the gombeen accusing you of placing people in a state of fear and alarm and rabbeting on and giving out about IP addresses. Is it who I think it is? you know who I mean, she never gives up. Good luck to ya.

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Of course +Betty Turpin is trying to cover up – just as she tried to when the scrag end of lamb was ‘off’ and her hotpot gave her customers food poisoning. The brazen woman tried to blame the ‘off’ beer as the real cause. Tartaglia covered for his mate, a former seminary rector, who got handsy with a man after too much drink. It’s in their nature to cover up for their mates, they just can’t help themselves.

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Follow up on that lead Pat…. PM did much more than just get forcibly handsy with his parishioner. He was also completely inappropriate and breached all sorts of boundaries with the seminarians under his care as seminary rector at the Scots College.

The outgoing rector of the English College is best friends with him too…

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10.05
It was shocking how Philip handled this full situation and I think it was more to do with the Parish as it was Philip’s first PP role and he would may have to close the parish.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/parishioners-angered-church-response-objections-9806913
The BIG question who is Going to be able to Clean the Archdioceses of Glasgow and hopefully they will not leave Hugh Bradley as Administrator for too long as he is out his depths here.

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10.23: Magna needs all the encouragement that can be given so that he may refind the true spirit of CHRIST. His propensity for repeat vulgar, hate speech is morally repugnant and should be named for what it is: evil, vile and nasty. He, of course, has baggage from the past so heavy that it’s crushing his humanity. So, in charity, I suggest he refind Christ and imbibe his spirit. Truly. It’s merely an idea…..the ideal will follow!!

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The ideal of giving money to fund the daisy chain. That’s what you’re really annoyed about.

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Hattie Jacques is only fit to run a tuck shop, not the Archdiocese of Glasgow. They’ll have a hard job trying to get someone who can clean up. It certainly can’t be anyone from the dreadful Scottish Hierarchy, that would out of the frying pan into the fire.

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10.44
Your post presumes that you, however, do possess the ‘true spirit of Christ’, which allows you to make confident spritual suppositions about me. There is only one snag here: the true spirit of Christ is not only omniscient, but would never lie. You, by contrast, are neither: I have no baggage from my past, let alone the kind that is crushing my humanity.

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Excellent letter Bp Pat. I like the way you refer to Mr Keenan as Lafferty, possibly on Keenan’s instruction, referred to you as Mr Buckley.

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3.35
Monsignor Hugh Bradley does an excellent pastoral provision from his Parish Holy Cross
to which the First Minister of Scotland is the MSP for the area.
Crosshill / Govanhill has the most Multi National Communities from all over the World.
However I totally agree that they will struggle for someone to clean up the Archdioceses of Glasgow sadly it will be one of the current seven.
Hugh Bradley should concentrate on his parish but then the Archdioceses would go down further under Paul Murray however someone should be sent in immediately as there are massive challenges and they will need to be strong.

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It is good that +Betty Turpin has decided to investigate the alleged claims, but I doubt the results of her enquiries will amount to much. The priests concerned will get a telling off and told to be more discrete in future, use PrEP and keep a pack of three handy. What more can you expect, Bp Pat?

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You can’t say fairer than that, Bp Pat, and I think the majority of parishioners in Motherwell will be perfectly content with that course of action.

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Did anyone see the review of O’Brien’s book in the Tablet ? Lol…the reviewer was an interesting choice !

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I agree with your stance on “street preachers” Bp Pat. I was surprised to see a “Training For Street Preaching” sign outside a local Baptist church but have thankfully never come across any vulgar street preachers in Edinburgh.
The sign has since been removed as the new Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill prohibits behaviour that is both criminal and based on prejudice.

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You mean Scotland’s blasphemy law by any other name, except that the verities that must not be challenged have been changed.

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Anti-gay bloggers like Patricia of CTS also have to be careful what they put up on their blogs from now on.
Comments too. One calling herself “Helene” once recommended parishioners check their priests for any “sodomite tendencies”.

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The gays are a funny lot. One minute they are hypersensitive about hurty words and the next minute the fastidiousness stops when there’s a bit of uphill gardening. It reminds me a cat I had which refused to eat anything less than the priciest cat food but was also quite happy to eat a rat.

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The then prominent residents of the said city were going through a phase of doing something specific unconsensually to their unwary captives, and the word’s application in the last couple of centuries has been basically inappropriate.
Abraham and the three good Amorites and their trusties actually saved almost the entire population of the five cities when they were carried off – except for the king of the named place of course who had somewhere convenient to slope off to.

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So let’s get this clear. Mr Keenan is himself investigating your ‘complaint’ that he paid off rent boys used by his priests. Have I understood this right?

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In secular life, a person would not be allowed to judge his own case. In parliaments, MPs, MSPs, TDs etc have to declare an interest before speaking on a matter on which they have an interest. People are not allowed to be on a jury in a case if they know the accused, and no judge in any UK or Irish secular court would hear a case in which he was a protagonist. Do different rules apply in dioceses?

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I don’t claim any great psychic ability but I can already foresee his findings and how much of them will be made public. In fact I’m sure the ‘investigatjon’ is already over.

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Why the surprise? The RCC is an absolute monarchy and is closest in governance to being a dictatorship. The only difference is it’s just a papal dictatorship. Just like a dictatorship, an absolute monarchy has no checks and balances in its system. Second closest would be an oligarchy, where a small group of elites exert absolute power. No surprise then that the bishops believed they were absolute kings in their own dioceses. The benign dictator Frankie, has been trying to curb that belief by imposing sanctions on them if they don’t obey him, even dismissal from the episcopal state.

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I like to compare it to apartheid South Africa, where the Calvinist Dutch Reformed Church thought the land was divinely given to the Afrikaners and apartheid thus divinely mandated, with the Afrikaners the ministers of this mandate. The main difference with Rome would be that Rome obviously has the historical influence of being the state religion or the empire, and is also influenced by mediaeval city states.
Both of these visions are just as totalitarian as the Taliban regime. If it were not the church would stop trying to make abortion illegal.

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2:49 And they all knew what was waiting for them if they said the wrong thing. Do try not to be a fool.

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Where can you buy scrag end of lamb though? Probably have to go to a halal butchers where they will serve sheep’s head too.

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It’s neck of lamb, I think. Probably best done in a slow cooker, after browning off the meat. Betty always browned her meat.

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I get it off the market. And also goat for curry.
That recipe would be gross though with lumps of fat floating. Just like the clergy in the hot tub.

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I bet they’d like to surprise the sulk Sean with theIr sausage…didn’t that Latino bishop share his sausage surprise online last week?

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+ Betty Turpin’s hotpot is on a downward trajectory because she needs to learn that oblivion and denial are not part of the recipe for resolution.

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It is horrendous that Glasgow has around 80 active Clergy and paisley 50 and yet it is alleged it is the Curia past and present that is involved in the Daisy Chain do they think they are above the HARD working Clergy.
They can call it Team Meetings, Dinner Parties or just relaxing in the hot tub they MUST think the Laity is mad and stupid do they not get they are not.
Really they should all consider their positions and go before being pushed.
This is WORSE than the Keith Patrick O’Brien or the Matthew Despard saga and it is time for the Metropolitan See of Glasgow which includes Motherwell and Paisley to wake up

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My neighbour has a hot tub, AKA sex pond. Absolutely gross to sit with other unwashed in tepid water.

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I wonder which plum parish Mgr Philip Whitmore is going to get? He won’t set it alight, that’s for sure.

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Phillippa isn’t bishop material but then east anglia is a back water. Her Donnish mannerisms will go down well in Cambridge

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She has a holiday home in Ryde. She might join the monks there though that community might be insufficiently fussy for Philipa’s tastes.

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Kitty Jordan for East Anglia. Supplied there when on sabbatical and has a holiday cottage there.

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Bishop Buckley,

On a tangent to miscellaneous subject, today being Sunday, may I offer a suggestion to add to your pursuits.

I have now for three years on a weekly basis tuned in to church services around this island and other places around the world.

This morning I went to Tenure, Monasterboice, Co Louth. The ebullient pastor spoke at the homily time without beginning or end… his papal worship impressed the impressionable….the usual trite content…. however without any intellectual rigour or reflection he took a good swipe on the subjects of “ gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia “ ( his articulation).

Strand hill and grey stones are always high caliber and respectful of the listener/ hearer.
Carraig more…. consistently dull.
Drogheda… always a disappointment.

Rate my teacher was a site of some notoriety for some years. Church service in web cam time could do with the same.

The clap trap I listened to this morning gave me a reason to come back to your Blog!!!!!!!

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Why don’t YOU record a homily, Billen, and put in on YouTube and then we could rate you? I don’t remember you winning Preacher of the Year when you were in Maynooth.

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Ronan Drury would not ( if he were alive) would not share your memory. We were not friends. It is only at this distance I can appreciate how rounded he was as a human being. Reducing my name as you do is indicative of how too you have matured. It is very difficult to mature as a human being, it is infinitely more difficult as a gay man. I should know.

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3.18: It would serve you better Mr. Mullie if you spent your Sunday morning out doing something worthwhile and useful: looking after the poor and homeless, delivering meals to those who live and sleep on our streets. The pretentious waffle, confusing prose is inane and so shallow. What are you trying to prove or who are you trying to impress? Your verbiage is utterly inane. Brother Kevin in Church St. always welcomes volunteers!!

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Bills comments are likerd by blog readers and the blog author.

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Wild Bill Hiccup has now been inducted into the Kitty Drury fan club, so kindly show some respect, please.

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6.35
Ronan Drury was a very decent human being. Your post denigrates no one except yourself.

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The homeless of the city of Dublin would gladly speak for me…. As well as those who of a morning kayak on the Liffey. Sea kyacking is more difficult but I can’t transport mine at the moment. If you wish to join me in doing honour to the forgotten of Dublin City, through Pat we can arrange it.
Don’t mock me you Fucker.

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Good auld Niall Ahern in Strandhill. Sean O Neill and Eugene Sweeney won’t be pleased by their mention here, poor Carrickmore and Drogheda suffering them.

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Ego is important to clergy; the templates are all there is…. You who have researched and commented on my directives are testament to the “ sickness onto death “ ( kierkegarrd) of what you belong to…..

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I have no choice could cognisant of all this Blog has promulgated; Ronan Drury from all I know was a very good and decent man. I stake myself on that.

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Bill spent an extra year in New House, where Dr Niall “Nelly Dean” Ahern also lived. I cannot remember if Bill was in the Nelly Dean fan club.

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You can get two for £6 in the Spar and Eurospar shops in NI. I’m not encouraging Sunday trading so it would be great if you would all wait until Monday before getting yours.

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Societal mores until recently in this country were against us… to say nothing of the wider world or the coming Muslim regression ( that’s why Bergoglio has been hosted so well in the Arab world…. same hymn sheet despite the insincere sound bites from him). The RCC prelates should hang their head in shame for the homophobia they engender in society while in denial about their very selves.

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Fan of Abba and Pearl Jam… a few literary scholars… but never of a priest or personnage.

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Another tangent to the words of this morning’s pastor in Tenure… he mentioned Oliver Plunkett and his being “ hung drawn and quartered.” That is not the worst they did to him; before that stage of the brutality, they cut off his scrotum and put it in his mouth ( wasn’t mentioned historically because of ridiculous sensitivity). On mainland Europe at the same time the papal emperor s were doing much worse to their pro test tant detractors. That is the reason the Argentinian and his predecessors can stand on the balcony… or from behind the desk…. and with irenicism lecture others on peace and violence. The RCC used violence wholesale to get where it is today. The Catholic colonialists ; Portuguese and Spanish particularly wiped out all memory of many indigenous peoples. At least the Protestant colonialists tried “ to use” what they found, no less cruel… but different in approach.

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5.22
Not a bad vocal effort (though 3 verbal mistakes in the fourth verse would suggest he doesn’t understand what he’s singing.)
There was a Sean Ryan in Maynooth in the late 1980’s (for Tuam, I think). But I don’t think they are the same.

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6.51
Well done on the update! You ought to write more about those days. It would be a great read!

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You are half right, 6.48 pm. The name (Sean M. Ryan) is correct, but he was Clonfert, not Tuam). That was in the days when Clonfert had 9 sems in Maynooth and may have had some in the other seminaries too.

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Sean Mary (yes, that is his real middle name) Ryan, Clonfert diocese. Flunked German in first year so had to repeat. He was in the college choir and may even have been a junior oratory cantor, when Frank Duhig bent the unwritten rule that those who didn’t pass an exam were not given reader straight away and were not given any college positions.
He was librarian of the junior house spiritual library on Long Corridor. Notoriously the students held a quasi-liturgical / borderline blasphemous induction ceremony, all still in choral dress after Sunday Mass, and with much chanting in Long Corridor.
From somewhere (perhaps the theatrical costumes cupboard in the Aula Maxima) Sean M was tricked out in the choral dress of a cardinal, complete with biretta.
The junior dean hit the roof when he found out. I presume the tout was one of the monitors or a brown noser (PP?)
I think he left in I Div. Ended up in London and is now a big wig in the Irish Catholic immigrant community in Paris that is centred on Hugh Connolly’s sinecure in the Irish College.

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6.51
Great memory! Well done! I’m sure you could remember lots more. Would be a super read.

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Three years soon from my departure, my contribution on this blog was part of it all. On that date, I may well serve something like “ a main course.” That said, in the words of Pope Putin twenty years ago; “ God is the greatest force for good the world has ever known.” 1200 students in an Australian auditorium gave me a standing ovation for a homily on that subject. You can share that with Fr. Jack…. I hated that show for its derision of good men. The tragedy is they all watched it.

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Poor JK a Parish with no records so what about Safeguarding and there will likely be no information from the African priest or the Two curate.
Surely the priest with NO records should be suspended immediately so NO wonder JK does not want to go to court and yet the priest will walk back into a parish once his health improves.
The laity can again assist at Masses and around the parish in more varied ways. There is no record of those who served as readers, extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist, or altar servers. There is also no record of those who helped manage the rotas for these ministries, nor is there a record of those who managed the piety stall in the past.
Shocking you could not make it up at least they are upfront of NO records.

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5.28
Your bottom line in so many of your boring posts is a declaration that ‘you could not make it up.’ So what? Who would wish to?

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Correction; Dermot Farrell is making a few waves on this subject, I don’t think he does insincerity… so perhaps on this little enclave; there might be signs of centuries late progress… I won’t hold my breath.

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I never liked Rory Coyle….. just very different people. I was never friendly with Eamonn Mc Camley. But if this I am sure; if there is anything to the multitude s who cram church buildings, if there is anything to the Gospels, there is no reason they cannot minister as representatives of Jesus to people again ( if it’s only what has appeared on this blog against them. Sex is a positive in all human lives, it can also be very destructive…. Particularly in the judgement of the mind. The RCC are professional by Lemniscate on that one.

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6.06: Not the only error., Mullie. Your entire script, like all others, is inane. You are trying to be clever. You are not good at using the English language in an intelligible way. In fact, you are butchering the language with cryptic inanities.

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Mr. Mulvihill at 6.06 pm you wrote that “sex is a positive in all human lives, it can also be very destructive”. Would you describe the consensual sexual relationship between Richard Purcell (the current Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey) and Neil Dargan (a former priest of the Diocese Killaloe and a teacher of classical studies) as a positive or a destructive action or a combination of both? How does it differ from the priests of the Diocese of Paisley using rent boys? Were those engagements (in Paisley) positive or destructive acts?

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Whatever it was/ is. It is entirely inventive until the personages involved contribute.

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I looove the way the cathbots describe any priest who has left their cult as Mr. I especially love it when they do it to Sean Page because he is now an Anglican so they think his orders are invalid.
It’s so funny.

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I am proud of Mr. and you would be very surprised of the efforts to earn it !!!!!

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You could not be anything other than Mr. Unless a doctorate had been conferred on you…

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Don’t hold your breath waiting on an intelligent or intelligible response.

Reading his posts is like trying to solve a cryptic crossword. Like a cryptic crossword you will find they can decoded but not worth the effort of decoding.

Pat has said he likes his post. I see little evidence that anyone else does. I find his posts pompous, pseudointellectual twaddle – no doubt he’d find me pompous etc. Live and let live…….

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I’ve been trying to figure out who Bill reminds me of when he posts and then it came to me. Mystic Meg! She used to write/ speak the same type or aerated nonsense

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The formulators of Crossword work to a code. I suspect it would always be beyond you !!!!’

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The most talented and priest of integrity to be ordained for Armagh in my time is an excellent chess player. Rory is a priest and knew how to play their game, He had that priest fired out of his environs because he was jealous of him; all facilitated by the Wounded Wounder. It’s got the like of that, guys should really be punished. My hope for the talented chess player is he becomes enlightened before too much time elapses.

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6.30: Take your fecking calming pills. My Head, you’re a silly nincompoo..Irritating, silly and unintelligible. Go back to priesthood!!

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Just not what Catholic society allows or respects…. but of the Gospels from my fingertips.

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Regarding the Paisley C/Os

Not sure if Bishop Pat already has this info, but the Paisley Priest at the centre of the allegations is also responsible for one of the C/O’s. He bullied him so much that he actually went C/O and very much looks like they wont be back… phone calls at all hours of the day, demanding picked up and dropped off… demanding errands ran from local off licence/shops and the list goes on.

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Paisley
One of the C/O is away now JB, the other one is ill FH, and the third one GOF is suppose to be ill.
When does it take JK so long to start canonical trails against JB and GOF.
Who bullied who as wee John is too shy.
JK has been badly advised over this only one making money will be Austin as John is the laughing stock of the Presbyterate now.

Looks like JK is correct and GOF has an illness and really needs help.

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FH isn’t that ill, he’s making good progress in his new chosen career. GOF was bullying FH(and a few others both clergy and laity). GOF is perhaps the most odious man I’ve had the displeasure of dealing with. I’ve no idea why FH didn’t just tell him where to go.

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There is a problem : existential on this blog; between those who comment from ideological intent and those who comment from integrity ( however mistaken or perceived). Never the Twain shall meet.

The common ground; the Vatican would never have allowed Cathal Daly’s ego to create Pat Buckley if the foresight of where it would all go was known to them; Bishop Pat Buckley will be around for a long time yet; The Tertullian scholar is a non entity already!!!!!

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Will this blog be the grand finale, Bp Patt, until +Betty completes her investigations and reports back to you with her findings?

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You can do that online – you don’t need Pat’s blog.
All that Mensa tests prove is that you are good at scoring high on intelligence tests – nothing more.

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What else would I be trying to validate…. Citing the particular test as I do ?

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The priest with most integrity of my time; Fr. Paul Murphy of Drogheda. An exceptionally talented man . He should leave before they apply the iorn to his very soul. He has so much more to give….. than to GET…..

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I am 57 years old, can anyone think of a forum/ fori ( ye ha ha) where dissent of any kind or nature has been allowed or facilitated if one/ you/ I do not subscribe to the Roman Catholic Church? I cannot…

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I say again as I did before as an aside; Eamonn Martin is of blameless life ( in the context of his many colleagues ) , For all his foibles, as mine, he has a measure in the calculation of offence. He is essentially a good man. I am measured.

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Mr Bill,
How well did you know:
1. T F Little
2. R A Mulkearns
3. Various individuals with concrete knowledge of the above and their affairs other than GP?
We await enlightenment with interest.
Thank you.

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Still can’t understand, kids that believe in the totoh fairy is like an adult believing in religion, they never grew out of it…
Can’t fathom it…
Its cute when it’s a child, it’s not funny when it’s an adult….

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7.57 pm
I do not recognise the names or letters you mention… that is not to say I am correct…. I am happy to answer you if you doubt or are suspicious of my contribution to the Blog. I trust Bishop Buckley as an even individual and should I need to supply my number in veracity…. Up for consideration… but I do not recognise what you have proffered.

Bill Mulvihill

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No I’m not “suspicious of your contribution”, just a question that occurred, you are perfectly well allowed to have missed out on that acquaintance due to different timing (as anyone would rather likely have done). Sorry it worried you. What a worrying world we’ve been in the midst of.

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Like many your assumptions and your embrace of error judgement indicts us all,…. Monsters do not have decipherable looks…

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I suspect when the history of our time is written, the secular state will be found to be kinder than any of its Chrristian persuasion s…. quite an indictment. Noel Brown …..

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Yes I keep saying that here and it makes the holy priests wild. Which is quite telling in itself really.

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8.44: Mulvihill, tell that to those left to die on our city streets, to the many homeless men and women who sleep outdoors, to the many young couples and families in emergency accommodation, to the parents of children with disabilities, to those in long hospital waiting lists, to migrants in temporary shelters. Come into the real world. Many if the caring iutreach agencies workung with these grouos are of Catholic origin…So much for societal/government compassion!! Mulvihill, open your eyes.

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I had priest drive me through Limerick one night, we stopped at traffic lights at xmas week to let passers by ….
He litterly stopped the car let passers cross and said ‘oh look they still believe in the tooth fairy’ randomly out of nowhere ….and he laughed and that was he’s funny bone…
I was totally gobsmacked….
Given hes profession, teachings etc….
Completely deluded… What has this church done to people or why does the church give purpose to wierdos and lost folk…
As nice as it may be, you can’t look to folk for answers you will be sorley disappointed…

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I always like seeing peoples comments and different debates, heated or not…. and some can get heated,…. how many of you comment on here that have been affected by the church directly, some way or another?
Or making an opinion without it… Curious…

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10.03
How about we discuss your personal life, I’m sure we will have a good laugh and belittle your feelings on the matter….
Sorry it bores you lol

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It is despair anyone latching on to it even after all is lost, must be depressing to go from someone to nobody over night, tough pill to swallow!

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William Mulvihill is killing this blog stone dead. Lots of people stopped reading this before because of him. He is a bore and a complete drunken arsehole.
Cop on Pat

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Mulvihill renounced his baptism and the church but can’t walk away. Shows that they still have power over him despite his denunciation.

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I should like to quote a Nazarene that was spoken to in a similar fashion…. but as on his listener… twould be wasted !!!

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On the homeless of Dublin; that Jesuitical fraud is running a multi million euro business and letting successive governments off the hook.
Bill Mulvihill

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On the topic of yesterday, there has still been no ecumenical response. ☹️ I wait and I wait for an ecumenical response.
My time in the blog wilderness is something like a Lenten journey.
Like any of the Birmingham Six, I am an innocent man who has been wronged.
Is mise le meas,
Séamus
PAX

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A good Lenten season replenishes one for life’s challenges.
We’ve been treated to ecumenical responses in previous blog stories where bishop’s try to bring an end to a story so that we can all move on.
In the language of this current blog story, peace-building, honesty and integrity demands an ecumenical response, in my own humble opinion.
PAX

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