Yesterday, August 27th, the Down and Connor priest, John J Murray was convicted of abusing two 10-year-old girls in the1980s.
Some years ago Murray fled to Spain to avoid being questioned by the police.
Every day in Spain he golfed, wined and dined while his victims languished at home in deep emotional pain thinking they might never get justice.
I’ve known Murray for over 40 years and regard him as one of the most vile men ever ordained to the prirsthood.
He has been a user of women for as long as I have known him and his conviction this week, while better late than never, is decades overdue.
He has been protected by several cynical Down and Connor clergy for years.
In fairness to the current bishop, Noel Treanor, he went one day a few years ago to Murray’s parish, Rasharkin, and literally gave him an hour to pack his bags.
I am so relieved for the victims that their 40 year nightmare is over and their story has been validated and believed.
I have accompanied one of the victims for 5 year plus.
That girl has been to hell and back.
Her abuse has overshadowed her whole life
I hope this verdict, the fact that she has been believed and the grace of God will lead her to the fullest healing possible.
As in the past, I will continue to walk with her.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
142 replies on “FATHER JOHN J MURRAY – DOWN AND CONNOR – FOUND GUILTY OF SEXUALLY ABUSING TWO 10-YEAR-OLD GIRLS IN 1980s.”
Vile beast. Shame on those who covered for him.
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If he has bedn found guilty he’s a criminal. But vile beast? He’s still a human being. How do you square your denunciation with Jesus’ words to visit those in prison. If you did something positive for his victims that would be be a different matter. Yours is a tabloid reaction. Does it make you feel virtuous?
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Save your sympathy for the victims.
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Another case where people obviously knew all along.
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You think it can’t get any worse, and it does. Two ten year old girls!!! That fiend deserves to burn in hell for eternity, If as you say he was protected by other clergy, they’ll have to answer too. A disgrace to The Sacred Priesthood.
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11:35: two letters of one word in your comment need to be switched. It’s not a sacred priesthood, but a scared ………and no need for capital letters for these ontological oddities.
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9:44am
You’re too sceptical Sammy.
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I am delighted for Murray’s victims.
There is something deeply dark and vile about romanist priesthood that attracts this type of person. Yes, I know what the priest-haters who post here will say: Nonsense! There are perverts in every profession: in medicine, in teaching, in the police, and so on. But the perverts who join these ranks are truly interested in the work they do. Priesthood, on the other hand, draws men who aren’t in the slightest interested in serving Christ, otherwise they would not behave as they do.
Priesthood attracts these and other men precisely because it was NEVER about serving Christ, but about serving the lower self.
Jesus did not institute priesthood, because he never wanted priesthood. He obviated it for a reason: he did what it could never do.
The very existence of priesthood and priests is an open and blatant denial of Christ’s salvific death. No wonder nothing but evil has come from it.
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I agree with you Magna. But I wish to add an observation.
The priesthood can attract such vile men. But 7 years of observation and formation should be able to root out such vile men. Clearly it does not but the State subsidies Maynooth by the rental of buildings and land while also recognising it’s training within the State University.
We are truly better with little or no priests than bad priests. And I say this while trying to do my best in my own patch, navigate the politics that would have me assassinated and just try to be authentic as I can in what I now think to be a dysfunctional organisation.
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9.59
They (seminary authorities) got rid of me? You must know who I am, then. Name me. Or are you just another lying romanist priest? Like John J. Murray?
This blog is infested with these men.
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10:29
I can name you Magna. Let’s see will Pat post this. Your name is Ciaran O’Connell and you were a seminarian for the Dublin diocese. You are an effeminate, pius, fair haired, blue eyed, glasses wearing, skinny bitchy nerd who was kicked out of Maynooth. I remember the gin parties in your room (but alcohol was banned from the rooms, remember?). You also had a crush on Fr. Brendan Kealy, a sort of pseudo-daddy figure in your life. I know you still meet with him for dinner and drinks in Dublin.
I know Pat may refrain from showing my comment but yes, I know who you are Magna. I hope your real daddy is ok, I know he has a problem with alcohol (like you) but I hope you are both getting the help you need. You really did not make much of yourself since you got booted out of Maynooth. You were too smart for your own good, but with no real discernible talent. Anyway, it got you nowhere in the end.
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The Rcc is a dysfunctional organization riddled with morally corrupt ,corrupting, abusive individuals, including criminals, from top to bottom. McCarrick is due in court next week.
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Magna, I know you are a narcissist, but please don’t make every day about you. No one gives an f about you.
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11.04
Not even remotely close.
I was a seminarian for a northern diocese.
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A good point well made HG!
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9.41
You are not far from being what could be called ‘a good priest’.
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11.23
Jesus does, though I don’t think he would have used the F-word to express it.😕
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I thought Ciaran O’Connell was rebadged and relaunched as Fr Henry O’Connell Cong. Orat of York Oratory, or is he a different chap altogether?
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@ 11:23am
A charming example of an alter Christus applying the parable of no one gives an f about you learned in scripture studies in Gaynooth. Scripture studies in Gaynooth also included lust one another, let your file be shredded and do not do onto others. No mention ever of millstones and children!
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Magna: DubPriest was way off the mark. I’ve good idea of your ID, but no inclination to reveal. We both went up that steep “pupils’ path” to that same red “high” school: the red tile roofed one now replaced and more clearly designated “grammar” to distinguish from the more recent “HIGH school” over in the back fields beyond where Bro Charles cultivated our lunchtime hurley skills. I was many years before you. If there’s any record of the sports day winners of the mile you’ll find me there, in 1960’s.
Cheers, and I do enjoy you shaking up the RCC fraternity. Keep shaking.
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Maggs, wrong again as usual, just because you yourself tried to join The Sacred Priesthood and failed and they got rid of you, it has left you with a never ending hatred. Despite what we read about these vile men, there are good holy priests doing Gods work. It’s jut that we never hear about them as it’s not news worthy.
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9:59 Your comment suggests you think Murray is a good and holy man doing God’s work, whether or not you intended it to.
These things happen when your hatred makes you leap on the internet to spew your vile filth.
I will pray for you.
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11.04: At last. The courage of TRUTH. Well done. Exactly as you have posted….
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So, in fact, the blog is again taken over by the narcissist.
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11:44 and 9:41 – both spot on and insightful thank you.
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10:04am
Pray for yourself ya sad silly cow, learn to read. No where did I suggest the fiend Murray was a good holy priest. have you thought about literacy course?
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12.58
Now-now, Bella! That irascible, nasty spirit of yours may be irrepressible, but it isn’t Christian. 😀
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When a new priest came to our parish, he proudly announced that his loyalty was to his fellow priests and the bishop. It’s a very toxic incestuous Web. The laity do not have a chance.
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10.55am. Did not happen.
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It’s a very toxic fraternity- a brotherhood- and like all brotherhoods they protect each other.
‘All for one and one for…’ All sorts of criminality is covered up!
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1:16pm
Now-now Maggs! that nasty unchristian spirit of yours with your ad hominum insults to my person shows you for what you are, a naughty bold boy!.
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10.55: Such a lie. A total lie but it looks good when you are thrashing priests.
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11.22 It damned well did happen. I also overheard a group of priests sniggering about a poor man who could not consummate his marriage. He had been naive enough to confide in one of them.
Once you realise they never tell the truth and regard you as a social inferior, you have a chance of survival.
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11:22 As if.
Do you think we came up the Lagan in a bubble?
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This has given me a good laugh.
Person: ‘This happened’. (Place, time, even country unspecified)
Chorus of priests, cathbots and priests’ sex slaves: ‘No it didn’t’.
And they want us to believe they’re not in denial and not habitual liars themselves!
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@10:55, who made that memorable statement? If you don’t name names we can file it under F for fiction.
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1.16: Much like yours Mags….stinging, sharp, nasty commentary – but so far away from Christianity…you are zillions of miles away…🐴🐴🐴🎇🎇🎇🎇🎃🎃…It’s just so easy to be kind…try it..🤣😄😊😁😆😅
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1.51
But at least I’m sober these days, Bella!😀
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‘There are perverts in every profession:’
There may well be but that is an absolutely bizarre response to multiple criminals in the church who were encouraged by the hierarchy for decades.
‘Look, everyone else is doing it ‘ is not a mature and responsible response to getting caught out. I would put the ethical age as being that of a small child, definitely under the age of ten.
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Yes, but it would be as unreasonable as saying that all social workers are paedos just because Kincora was riddled with social worker paedos.
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The difference is the social work profession is regulated but the church ignores letters from the UN.
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Bishop Pat,
Why can I not find any news articles
About yesterday’s conviction on any mainstream media such as Irish News or BBC NI?
What’s going on with the hush hush ??
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???
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Pat, you have published his conviction in court . But there is no mention of this court case and conviction on BBC NI news nor in Belfast Telegraph etc . Haven’t seen Irish news today but can’t find any online reference to his conviction .
That’s why I find this curious as wonder if there was an attempt of a media ban ?
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There is a ‘Very Rev John J Murray’ listed as a priest in the diocese of Down & Connor on their website. Surely this cannot be the case that he still has the status of a priest after this conviction? Apologies if I misunderstand the process, but surely they should not be listing this man as a priest after all he has done? I am assuming there is not another priest with the same name in this diocese.
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8.23
In Down and Connor there is John Joseph Murray that is this reprobate and the other is called John Murray.
The case conclusion was 3.30 yesterday and it is bank holiday weekend also staff are working from home so hopefully soon he will be removed.
It needs to go to Rome for him to be Laicised and that depends how quick Bishop Noel sends it to Rome.
His faculties will be suspended (I hope).
John Joseph Murray is claiming he has Alzheimer’s and could not take part in the trial.
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11:42am
The notorious Jim S giving us the usual ill- informed information boasting that she’s on first name terms with Bishop Treanor, who has never heard of her. Lucky man.
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The verdict at 4.30 pm on a Friday came too late for the Sat and Sun papers on a bank holiday weekend.
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It’s such a shame that this sort of story is so common that it’s not newsworthy in the media. I haven’t seen his guilty plea reported on BBCNI or in the NI papers.
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He did not pleas guilty. A jury found he did the acts
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Where did you get this from + Pat ? Like others, I can find nothing out there reporting such. What’s your source / information that he has been found guilty at trial ?
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I watched the trial online. I imagine it will be in tomorrows SUNDAY WORLD.
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Have we any update on the “sentence” he received as yet Pat or did he get the usual slap on the wrist that seems to be reserved for these reprobates
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1.10
Bella Jim S has never claimed to be in the know with any Bishops however it this Holy Organisation all Bishops are known by their First name as none of the Apostle were know by surnames.
It is common sense that Bishop Noel will need to send it to Rome for Murray to be laicised and for him to return to MS as you would call it.
The one thing hopefully never do is boast as I am one the same journey as a Catholic to assist in the Vineyard for ALL
I could never bring myself to speak like you and have never done in 60 years.
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3:07pm
Oh! please you sound too sweet to be wholesome, when in fact you’re the scourge of Bishops,Archbishops and Papal Nuncio’s. Who live in dread of yet another of your inane communications. The only vineyard you assist in is the one that supplies The Pink Lion. As for you trying to outdo Uriah Heep in your humbleness, you’re kidding no one, ya sanctimonious bollox.
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The blog traditionalist extraordinaire, Bella, at his brilliant best,
with his application of the parable of the sanctimonious bollox.
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5.07
I love your Bible.😅
In all seriousness, you have a talent here. Ever thought of writing an alternative bible, or at least in part? It’s comedic quality could gurantee its publication.
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6.12
Comedic? The word is comic.
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7:30 Before correcting someone you would do well to check whether the word you are correcting actually exists.
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7.30
Buy a dictionary.
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‘one of the most vile men ever ordained to the priesthood.’
Would his vileness be comparable to Brendan Smyth or Oliver O’Grady? Presumably then there would be other victims?
All three of these names were of course found suitable in formation and are not ‘seminary rejects’, the compliment the unholy priests throw around at anyone who has fully realised the iniquity of their cult.
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Bella.
You are only shaming yourself showing the outsiders the FSSPX for what they are Not Roman Catholic and His Holiness is placing you all where you belong.
Repent and Believe the Gospel.
West End does not have a Pink Lion it is Tennents or more so the Waterloo.
May Augustine lead you to follow an example of him as we celebrate him in Holy Mass this morning.
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5:19pm
Still at it with all the false piety ya poor cratur. Sorry to tell you St Augustine wouldn’t recognize any Mass you attended. I will pray for you fervently at The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass you sorely need it.
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5:07pm
Thank you so much, it’s nice to be appreciated.
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@ 6:07pm
Bella, daughter of Harrington Road, why do you thank me…?
Thank, rather, those who preach their words studied in Gaynooth…
“broad and wide is the road to heaven and enter anyway you wish!”
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Great man for the New Mass was Fr Murray. None of those awful fiddlebacks for him. There was no turning back the clock in Rasharkin.
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9:06am
I’m glad to hear that, thanks.
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8:07pm
It’s Harrington Street ya stupid wagon I rescind my thanks you don’t deserve it. No matter how broad and wide the road is the likes of you have no chance of entering.
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7:47pm
Thank you, Bella.
There are three things that last: faith, hope and the latin and lace brigade….
and the greatest of these is… the latin and lace brigade.
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7:47 once again proving he, she or it has no knowledge of the Catholic faith whatsoever.
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Still c/o Lisbreen on the diocese website today. You would think that evading justice would be more than enough to defrock him in his absence with no questions asked.
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Are you sure about his, + Pat ? I can’t find anything on the internet, or press reports, of his trial having concluded and with him being found guilty. Anyhow, sounds to me as though his past may well have caught up with him, and if he has been found guilty, then I would expect that he will go to prison for some time. There will be many a priest with questionable pasts and things that they thought were long since forgotten, waiting for a knock at the door and thinking about having to face the truth of what they have done, and the consequences. It is important that these kinds of cases are pursued and brought to justice, if only as a way of saying to a younger generation that you will be answerable for your actions if you abuse somebody. So don’t.
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9:12: While what you comment is sound, perhaps it would be stronger if you had additionally said that such vile behaviour is morally wrong, evil and injurious, rather than just that ‘ you will be answerable.’
As with so many previous reports of clerical abuse, I have to wonder how such specimens can have had any belief in the God they claim to represent, and indeed how many other clerics, even non abusing pastorally inclined ones, really and truly believe their religious hubris.
MMM
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9.12
Bishop Pat is telling the Truth John Joseph Murray was found Guilty in the court yesterday and will recall on 16th September to see what do do with him because his solicitor said he has Alzheimer’s
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Where did he live and funded him while in Spain?
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He had his own apartment in Spain and an income from Down and Connor.
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Fucks sake. Shows exactly whose side they’re on. There isn’t even an issue of justice here – if a man fleas abroad to evade a trial there is no problem with stopping his income as a matter of justice.
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Like Stephen Wilson In the Ryanair Apartment in Barcelona 🏳️🌈😃
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So the faithful of Down and Connor funded his sojourn in sunny Spain.
Was he on supposed ‘further study’ or doing fek all? How long was this going on?
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Unholy thief church took state aid intended for small business despite sitting on billions of dollars of available cash:https://apnews.com/article/catholic-church-get-aid-investigation-39a404f55c82fea84902cd16f04e37b2?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter
Those who push their way to the front of the queue shall be first.
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How many parishes in RoI claimed TWSS while still coining it in donations?
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1.13: Before any parish could claim any income during the pandemic, full details of accounts had to be submitted. Therefore, inky parishes entitled to do so received any such money. Our parish, like many had sufficient funds, therefore not qualifying for or have any need to make a claim. In fact some parishes within clusterings or groupings helped one another where necessary. It is wring to suggest parishes sought money. You could only do so on the evidence of your low or poor income levels. Simple as.
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1:59 is studiously not answering the actual question asked.
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Pat, you mentioned…’In fairness to the current bishop, Noel Treanor, he went one day a few years ago to Murray’s parish, Rasharkin, and literally gave him an hour to pack his bags’…
What was the context for this exchange between Fr. Murray and Bishop Treanor?
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3.40::::And you, sir, are studiously being disbelieving. Search for the actual truth instead of imagining what it might be in a sound byte way, thereby giving the impression of dishonesty. I sought advice from relevant authorities. You should do the same. QED….I speak the truth.
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Jesus what are you on about. A question which begins HOW MANY requires an answer which is a NUMBER.
The claptrap you give out does not answer the question, madam.
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Dr Buckley always brings the best out of Noel T.
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Pat, what’s your source for this news about Murray? Are you sure you got the right man?
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I watched the two day trial on line
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Meanwhile, in Australia, lib bishop up to the usual with young men. What sense of entitlement and self-delusion makes a grotesquely ugly old walrus like this think that a young man would welcome his advances?
https://twitter.com/CatholicSat/status/1431560560676593667?s=19
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The now x priest, ( Fr.) Matt Diggs ( Sydney, Broome) had interesting media comments on the very slow actions of the Vatican on this Bishop and bishops generally, a good few months ago now. His comments can be chased down with an Internet search.
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Bergoglio whether intentional or not has insulted The Torah, he is a fool. Chief Rabbinate has written to him in protest and seeks clarity. The Israeli Times gives an account!
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…. the Torah…. Error
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His Humbleness put his feet in it big time:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbinate-protests-to-vatican-over-popes-remarks-on-torah/
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They all get caught out in the end, Pat. Justice may be delayed but not for ever!
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11:29am
You’re right Raymond, but Murray shouldn’t worry too much about the justice and punishment handed out here. It’s the justice and punishment to come he should fear as that will be for eternity.
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His victims have alteady served 40 year sentences.
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A different point from anonymous at 1:33, however if you don’t consider a future judgement, a horribly low proportion of child abuse is ever reported to police and of those a miniscule proportion reach the evidence required for a conviction. There are some UK statistics here:https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/childabuseandthecriminaljusticesystemenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2019
Of course estimates vary about the cases never reported.
Amongst the reasons are that these monsters plead innocent and force an already damaged survivor to undergo a trial.
So no, they don’t all get caught out eventually, on this side of death.
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Thank you for everything you do for justice for survivor’s of not just our sexual abuse, but the emotional, psychological and alienation we have received from that ‘church’. You are my hero!! A real follower of Jesus xxx
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I appreciate your comment.
I was simply doing my duty as a Christan and priest.
Please don’t make me a hero. All humans have feet of clay.
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Clay was so important in Sanskrit… I do not mean to be a pseudo in any way !
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I had heard that NI trials can now be viewed online, as a way of dealing with the fact that court public galleries were closed because of covid lockdown regulations. Broadcasting trials meets the objective of ensuring that justice is seen to be done.
How, though, do you view them? Does anyone know what website is used?
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Download tge Pexip App and then you need the court’s reference number which you should be able to find online.
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Thanks for that. You get the reference number by searching the court lists. Hopefully the victims will watch the sentencing. Did someone say that is happening on 16 September?
https://onlineservices.courtsni.gov.uk/publiccourtlists/
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the HOLY PRIEST john jay murray is JESUS on the CROSS and so he is PRAYING for all of them ones
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You are, by far, my favourite commenter on this site! 🤣
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2.46
16th September at Dungannon Court
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Birmingham paid James Robinson for years even when he was on the run.
Birmingham paid Sam Penny for years, only stopping when they came under IICSA scrutiny.
I bet Joe Quigley is being paid even though under the roof of HMP for the next 11 years.
I bet you Bede Wals is being paid – he was jailed for 22 years.
Birmingham a haven for pardophiles and a Financial Dept eager and keen to bend over backwards or forwards for their masters pleasure.
They should be obliged to reveal this information in their Charity accounts.
Oh and surely a prison sentence for child abuse should be automatic laicisation?
Their like the Mafia – they take care of their own!!
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4.59
So wrong
Joseph Quigley is Laicised that means he has NOTHING to do with the Priesthood he belongs to society now.
Bede Walsh is also laicised and known as Alexander Bede Walsh and again when he is released he is societies problem.
The charities commission have enough to do with wanting to know every clerics details they are all given to revenue however on Diocesan account you will see salaries and that is for current clergy and staff.
Do your Christin duty if you are so interested in Joe and Bede and send them some money for their tuck as they will get nothing from any dioceses.
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I read an article the other day that there is a group working to get the RCC charged with ‘crimes against humanity’ which they reckon is only a matter of time.
The RC priesthood is a homosexual profession and a haven for paedophiles – no other profession in the world attracts them as much.
What, say 10per cent are paedophiles that’s 40,000 worldwide. It’s industrial strength child abuse . Imagine Fatger celebrating Mass wants to have sex with your 10 year old daughter or son – it’s astonishing and beyond scandalous.
It’s their biggest secret though isnt it and it’s been going on for centuries- I think it’s because a clerics sexuality is locked and like Lewis Caroll the thought of adult consenting sex – pubic hair, noises and smells, they find utterly repulsive, and like Orwell too, they prefer their sexual partners to be pre pubescent and non consenting.
And they see themselves as moral guardians when all they are is low life vermin.
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Many thanks for this news, Bishop. I had no idea that you were supporting those two victims.
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Mgr Guido Marini, Papal MC is leaving to become Bishop of Tortona. Some pant-suited nun will probably replace him.
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5:40pm
Sadly, you’re probably right, God help us.
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5.40
Very likely Diego Giovanni Ravelli currently Papal MC.
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Arthur Roche’s tennis partner!
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Arthur’s so sporty.
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9.49 does he wear short shorts?😮
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5.40pm Amazing – how did you find out?
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Has anyone seen the movie on Netflix about Pope Benedict XVI and Cardinal Bergoglio? It’s rather good.
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6.20
Is it like the film about the emeritus bishop Ratzinger and Pope Francis?
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….Ragwort…..error!
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its what makes Ragwort thrive…
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The subject of today’s blog is a vile creature and committed heinous crimes.
A culture of minimising scandal is not committed to rooting out scandal. Honest clergy and parishioners abhor these crimes, and the failure to deal with them properly.
Fair play to the bishop who kicked out the vile creature. I hope the victims gain the fullest healing possible. May they live in peace. ☮️
Is mise le meas,
Séamus
PAX
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It says something about the sheer stupidity of comments today that this one is relatively sensible and level headed in comparison.
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5.52pm
Fascinating use of language ‘he belongs to society now’ as if he never has, he has always been a member of society and has learnt that society prosecutes and jails paedophiles whereas the society of clergy protect, cover up for them and fund them.
Outrageous to suggest he’s society’s problem now when he’s always been society’s problem.
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Bishop Buckley… like the Boston Globe…. Is probably the only conscience these people have… religion and banking being really big business… as a TV producer/ director pointed out years ago in relation to an attempt to film the Borgia Papacy ! Colin Farrell was on the cards….
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6.46
Borgia papacies. Alfonso and Rodrigo.
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Plurality your strength?
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The director was singular in focus.
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A pseudo intellectual point!
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Mr Bill what is meant by this wording:
“I have never… by any words renounced what I was ordained into…. Few ever pay attention to the sanctity of The Word.”
What Word?
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5.52pm
How do you know they are laicised?
When did it happen? Dates?
What public statement by Birmingham has been made qualifying this?
Do you think a public statement should be made?
How do you know there not being paid or an agreement was reached by way of NDA?
How good of you to speak on behalf of the CC – my view is laicisations should be published in annual accounts as well as money being funnelled to clergy in gaol.
How would you know or not whether I help financially any miscreant and thanks for the suggestion but what I do with my money is a private matter.
Are you a lay employee of the Diocese or a member of the Clergy Mafia.
By the way Quigley and Wals both refer to themselves as Father’ in all their correspondence and have never mentioned being laicised.
Are you certain of your facts or are you being contrary?
Am I really so wrong as you rather rudely suggest or as am more on the money than you are comfortable with Fader.
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5.52
You can be on as much money as you want as my concern is for the poor victims of this heinous crime.
I do not have the authority to deny or confirm however since you are so interested email Archbishop Bernard Longley archbishop@rcaob.org.uk or safeguarding@rcaob.org.uk
You will notice they have been removed from the Archdiocesan site.
Does every employer in the UK and Ireland declare personal information about their employee’s that have committed Murder Raped, Sexual Assaulted of course not.
You have many question that need answered send them to the Chief Operating Officereric.kirwan@rcaob.org.uk or maybe Bishop Pat will ask all the questions for you.
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She’s at it again giving out email addresses, she must spend all her time collecting them and annoying the poor recipients by contacting them. Guess who?
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It’s only a matter of time before the nuncio comes up.
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8:02
Bella..! It must be, Bella. Is it you…?
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Guilt has been established and sentence passed. All these cases substantiate that abuse is/was part of church experience. What is the strategy going forward and how do we know it is being properly implemented in the life of the church
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I see there’s a gay porn site called Yes Father.
🤣
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When Jehoshaphat king of Judah returned safely to his palace in Jerusalem, Jehu(A) the seer, the son of Hanani, went out to meet him and said to the king, “Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, the wrath of the Lord is on you. There is, however, some good in you, for you have rid the land of the Asherah poles and have set your heart on seeking God.”
JEHOSAPHAT APPOINTS JUDGES.
Jehoshaphat lived in Jerusalem, and he went out again among the people from Beersheba to the hill country of Ephraim and turned them back to the Lord, the God of their ancestors. He appointed judges [and magistrates] in the land, in each of the fortified cities of Judah. He told them, “Consider carefully what you do, because you are not judging for mere mortals but for the Lord, who is with you whenever you give a verdict… Now let the fear of the Lord be on you. Judge carefully, for with the Lord our God there is No injustice or partiality or bribery…”
— 2 Chronicles 19: 1-7
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7.23pm
Er, so let’s get this straight, you think their laicised because their names aren’t on the diocesan website – duh, neither is Eddie Clare or John Gilbert hun but they ain’t laicised.
I don’t need to email anybody my post was for you to qualify your assertion and you couldn’t because you don’t know but you claimed to know.
I just called you out by asking some simple questions and you couldn’t answer any of them.
Write to Longkey or some suit are you havin a larf.
Typical clergy ask them simple questions and they run for their mummy!!
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5.52pm
You asserted (rather obnoxiously) that a poster was Wrong and that Quigkey was laicised as a fact.
The poster enquired further and you capitulated that you didn’t, in fact, have any authority to either confirm or deny your arrogant and ill informed assertion as a fact thus rendering completely futile and meaningless your assertion that Quigley was laicised
I think we can safely conclude that neither Quigley or Walsh are reduced to the the lay state laymen and will remain both societies problem and the church’s.
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I’m so tickled that this good is going to ROAST IN HELL FOR ETERNITY! tee hee hee
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