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RICHARD, PAUL, LOLA AND MILLIE ON HOLIDAYS IN CORK.

Fr Paul, Lola and Millie.
Fr Richard

AS A SIGN OF THINGS RETURNING TO NORMAL the parish priest of Knock, Richard Gibbons, in on holiday in Cork with his best friend, Paul Bennett and Paul’s pooches, Lola and Millie.

LOLA AND MILLIE

Apparently, in the last few days they were able to take a boat trip out of Cobh to explore the second-largest natural harbour in the world and its nooks and crannies.

A couple of years ago Fr Bennett took a sabbatical from Cloyne diocese and unusually, spent it helping Fr Gibbons at Knock.

FAREWELL TO PAUL

THE OLDEN FUNERAL AT MELLERY

RIP

Yesterday the funeral of Monsignor Olden took place at Mount Melleray.

PHONSIE CELEBRATED
DICK PURCELL AND PHONSIE

DOM RICHARD PURCELL WAS ON THE ORGAN FOR THE FUNERAL.

Watching the funeral I observed two things:

1. That Purcell does not look like a man at peace with himself.

2. The body launguage between Purcell and Phonsie is the body language of close friends.

ARCHBISHOP CROTTY MAKES AN ENTRANCE AT THE FUNERAL

Crotty in African costume

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I would like to thank the West of Ireland donor for their generous donation received yesterday.

264 replies on “RICHARD, PAUL, LOLA AND MILLIE ON HOLIDAYS IN CORK.”

I thought the former nuncio, Charlie Browne, was Fr Dick’s best friend. Paul must have replaced him.
I never trusted Fr Dick ever since he claimed that Knock was packed with 45,000 pilgrims during the unsuccessful papal visit, when everyone viewing it on the tv could see that it was very far from being packed and the true number was more like 4,500.

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Angela Hanley’s account of the Fr Sean Fagan witch hunt by the CDF under different management is revealing on Brown. Worth reading for that insight alone.

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There’s a Bishop Gordon Bennett, a Jesuit, accused of the usual.

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In this week’s Irish Catholic there’s an article about the three names in the running to succeed Dr Neary as Archbishop of Tuam, in whose diocese Knock is located. The article is behind the paywall. Does anyone know the names?

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10.57

Kevin Doran
Brendan Leahy
Fintan Monahan

Apart from ignoring the poor form of this newspaper in predicting appointments, other factors are to be considered.

If FM is the preferred candidate of the incumbent he won’t be appointed.

HMChurch, in her wisdom tends not to replace a sitting bishop with someone who is too close to him – for obvious reasons.

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Brendan Leahy is a desk priest, big into workshops, logos, away days and talking shops.

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Fintan Monaghan goes round glad-handing everybody and gives off the atmosphere of a Fianna Fail county councillor seeking re-election.

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Pat did you not say before that Kevin had a big package? Wonder was Big Mick’s bigger or smaller?

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Kevin Doran was a classmate of mine in Clonliffe.

He has some strange ideas but I think he is morally clean.

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Brendan Leahy is a Vicar of Bray character. He plays to the gallery and only says things that the Irish Times and RTE would approve. He is basically another Dermo, long on analysis, short on solutions.

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Watching the funeral all that polyester made m feel quite queasy,also when I saw what the wreckovaters have done to Mt. Melleray . I remember the Beautiful High Altar now they’re prancing round what looks like a mound of concrete that also made me feel queasy. Not to mention the bold Purcell having the audacity to turn up after all we’ve been told about his activities in Dublin.

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11.35
The only conclusion to be drawn from your plethora of comments here is that you are a staff member, a lady, most likely, of a departmental store which specialises in laces, linens and satins and which doesn’t stock polyester.

Alternatively, and altogether more likely, you are a male with a fabric fetish.

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The modern, floating alb is flattering to the fuller-figured, as Vat II clergy tend to be, what with prayer and fasting not having a premium.

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I’m surprised the static from all the polyester and viscose didn’t interfere with the broadcast.

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Thanks Pat
About time !! What the delay ? Surely this should have been news that day and not 2 weeks later ?
Why has bbc , Irish news etc not covered This story ?
A Catholic parish priest in Belfast convicted by a jury of sexual abuse of children … is it so common now that it isn’t newsworthy by mainstream media ?

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11.47
Gardens have a pre-eminent and hallowed place in salvation: Eden and Gethsemane, for example. Very appropriate.

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…And as for Rawhide Bareback Specialist Purcell, he has a brass neck. The man should have been thrown out of the monastery years ago, or he should be living a quiet life of prayer and penance with no extra curricular outings for his favourite pastime…..

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Pat, I am just speechless reading the article below from the former Redemptorist in Galway Diocese. He really has a brass neck, after his predatory and destructive behaviour. Do note that he has left out the parishes her served in where he set out to destroy the clergy and parish staff he was working with. Yes, it pays to come from a wealthy family and have ‘connections’ when it comes to the Irish church.
https://clarechampion.ie/lisdoon-pp-says-people-distinguish-between-priest-and-institution/?fbclid=IwAR2KOo9cziqGHTcsPZmmiNYqBSwHaHALz1h0uY5_lB3o-UbCZ2XTh6KAmug

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Archbishop Robert for Tuam. Robert is an ideal choice for Tuam. Exceptional writer, communicator and is a man of the people.

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Archbishop Rob McNamara sounds like the way forward. Anyone know why he left the Redemptorists? I’m thinking of creating a new congregation called The Irresistibles!!!

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I don’t know, but I heard they were ecstatic when he did jump ship; ‘hello, Galway, we are just going to dump one of our problems on you.’

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The Redemptorist Dublin Province keep repeating the same mistakes. Right now there is an accident waiting. As One formator used to say ‘time will tell’

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He must be a married poofter, Bp Pat.
Married Anglican bishop joins Catholic Church – BBC News

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….why would this Bishop of Ebbsfleet quit the C of E to come over to such a broken, discredited, dysfunctional, sinful, clericalised Church such as the RCC ? Maybe he’s been made a nice offer by some RCC bishop. Cushy parish etc. There will be something in it for him and his wife. I don’t believe the stuff about struggling in prayer to come to this decision. Ah well, we can’t usually believe what RCC clerics tells us, so I suppose this guy will fit the mould very well.

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The Anglicans can replace their pretend bishop by bringing Peter Ball or George Carey out of retirement. I’m sure it’s all forgiven and forgotten at this stage for those two.

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11.18am. Peter Ball died in2019. I believe in resurrection but this would seem unlikely here.

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Even brown bread, he’d be more full of vigour and energy than most Anglican clerics.

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So let’s get this clear: an Anglican flying bishop (don’t worry about that, you wouldn’t understand) waits until he retires to cross the Tiber?
As always with Roman Catholics, when you watch the money the motivation becomes clear. He’s waited for full pension.
Frankly the Church of Rome will fit him like a condom, and frankly Canterbury is better losing people like that.

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Might the real reason be that the flying bishop wants to be able to receive real sacraments?

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Fr. Richard Gibbons wasn’t mentioned in the Irish Catholic article re succeeding Michael Neary in Tuam. Brendan Leahy, Kevin Doran and Fintan Monaghan were the three names given, which probably means that none of them will get it. Gibbons is an attractive looking man….that’ll also rule him out. The Irish bishops are an ugly bunch, apart from the Gavin guy in Cork & Ross.

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10.55am It kills you doesn’t it that the Protestant Bishop has crossed over to Rome. You can tell your anger in your post. What a sad person you are!!!

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Well there’s Pat Buckley who got frozen out of the Roman sect then became a Catholic Bishop.

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10.28
John Butler, Lord Dunboyne, bishop of Cork (1763) became an Anglican to further his career. There is a large portrait of him in Maynooth and Dunboyne House there is called after him.

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Actually not quite what you want, but Rene Vilatte started off RC and may have ended up an Anglican bishop. May have because his ecclesiastical wandering is sooo complex.
Hyacinth Loyson was a Carmelite priest who got excommunicated then started the Eglise Catholique Gallicane under the supervision of what is described as a bishop of the Church of Scotland (presumably the Episcopal Church of Scotland).
Arnold Mathew had also been a RC before being Old Catholic (not Utrecht Union).
Conclusion: RC bishops don’t tend to leave the denomination, but clergy are not immune to becoming bishops of other denominations.
Now if you were to ask if any RC bishops cover up crime, you’d be on to a winner.

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Dunboyne’s chandelier hangs in the President’s Arch in Maynooth. Dunboyne reconciled to the Church before he died and left half of his fortune to the college, with the income paying for the Dunboyne Establishment in the college.

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Is there a small ray of hope for Tim Bartlett or must he be ever the bridesmaid and never the bride?

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8.59 am. Sniggers!I am poorly you see and reading this blog is making me laugh and hence cheering me up.

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I’m quite sure Pat, Kevin Heery would be happy to Unpack the revelations of Kevin Connolly in Stamullen and his departure from Meath Diocese.

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Referring back to yesterday’s theme, Churches and religious people should keep their noses out of the sex lives and relationships of people. This is particularly the case for the RCC, which has made the sex lives and relationships of people its particular specialist subject, which is rather idiotic considering that the men (yes, they are all men) who are making these teachings and delving in to other people’s lives and telling them what to do or not to do, are celibate men who have not a clue about relationships and sex, except those abusive and secret relationships and sex that they indulge in contrary to their professed vows. The end result is that these frustrated, lying, conniving, dysfunctional men are the ones who are making judgements about other people ! It’s a nonsense.
Going further, I simply do not understand why sex has had such import invested in it, which in its turn has inflicted on people burdens of guilt. Except that it has been in the interests of clerics to do this, so that they can bolster their own authority and power. The time has come for people to take responsibility for their own emotional, physical and sexual lives and relationships and stop listening to these manipulative and lying clerics. Society does have a right to create some boundaries around sex and relationships – e.g laws of rape etc, age of consent etc. Again, it’s an irony that the very clerics who are telling us what to do and what not to do have been shown to be a class group that has contravened every law against the abuse of sexual power, particularly the rampant and pandemic sexual abuse of children and the vulnerable that we have seen uncovered over the last few decades. How dare these same clerics have the arrogance and presumption to lecture us about our sexual lives and relationships ?

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Pat, I’ve just seen your posts about the preachers.
Classical liberals conceded that your freedom to swing your fist stops where my nose begins. Today’s progressives argue that your freedom to express your opinions stops where my feelings begin.

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The new confessional state enforces ideological conformity by expelling heretics from their jobs, a practice that liberals shed much blood trying to eradicate.

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Gibbons has to be one of three names in a shortlist…i would hazard a guess re him in that short list.
Heard from someone who went to knock last week or so. Security there was way over the top re Cov19 measures. There was lot of gnashing teeths coming from the old ladies that it had gone too far.
They were advising people not to go to Knock cos of security bureaucracy nightmare. That wasnt the first one, I heard.
But I heard another similar story from a local few weeks ago. He said, don’t bother coming to knock cos it’s not worth a hassle. It had put people off big time. It’s on gibbons patch.
Body language is part and parcel of our sign language repositories or any another sign language/s around the world.
I could say from looking at the photos that Purcell isn’t comfortable with himself. He’s being exposed, I think.
He’s being seen in a different light now cos he is leading a double life.

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The covid has brought out the jackboot tendency among the clipboard-wielding class. Many people love lockdowns, restrictions and never want to go back to the old normal.

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The holy monk was put there by the Holy Gid himself and you can read his vocation story here:https://msjroscrea.ie/vocation-stories-fr-richard/
Of course you may say that this puts the nonsense to the current idea of vocation, and that a vocation would be better understood as being able to live the life. This was the older understanding and would save much trouble because in that view if you can’t live celibately you don’t have a vocation to the monastery or celibate priesthood.

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He received a vocation at ordination, even if he didn’t have one before that moment. That is the teaching of the Church.

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Yeah right.
So Brendan Smyth had a vocation. ROFL!
He’s not a diocesan priest and I suggest you have a look at what the rule of St Benedict says about ordaining priests for the monastery.

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No he didn’t. And neither did you, Mister, at 10:31. The church just thanked you for sexual favours.

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The tendency (if it exists at all) whereby Irish Catholics distinguish between their local PP and the institutional church is a fatal error and one predatory and abusive priests manipulate.
Father is the Institution – he might appear cordial, up for the craic, a true friend in a crisis but he is almost certainly a Wolf in a Shepherd’s cloathes, a Velvet Assasin, and A Theif in the Night.

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Once you realise priests never tell the truth and see you as a social inferior you have a chance of surviving.

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Most sems in Maynooth looked down their noses at lay students and thought that they shouldn’t be in the college.

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10.05: There is nothing fatal about parishioners having the a ability to distinguish between their local priest and the institutional church. It’s only fatal when a priest professionally, but sickeningly manipulates the access to families and children for his own purposes, abuse. That’s fatal. Since the late 80’s when the abuse scandals broke and shocked, disgusted and angered all of us, particularly the cover up and the complete lack of transparency, the relationship between priest and people altered irrevocably, never to be the same again. Yet, those of us in the ground, out and about in our ministry and dedicated to our ministry, thankfully received much encouragement and support from parishioners. They, justly and rightly, saw their local priest at work for and among them. However, I understand why many individuals and families are careful and cautious about where and what they allow their children to be involved in. I will only have their involvement once a group of parents are part of arrangements and supervision. In almost 43 years of ministry, I have never worked with any priest or in any parish where a priest was accused of abuse. In the two occasions of having to report suspected abuse, it was respected lay people who were the perpetrators, both removed immediately and subjected to court proceedings. It is a gross distortion to even suggest that priests are wolves in sheep’s clothing. It’s the grand lie and one that’s peddled here all too frequently. I may fail in areas of ministry and priesthood but to infer that “priests” in general are abusers is both vile and evil and morally repugnant. Truth matters and helps justice and healing. Lies destroy.

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But you are wolves in sheep’s clothing, because as your comment makes clear, Mister, it’s all about you!
Me me me me me me!

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2.18 pm. I know, how absolutely true. Hang on, how do you know that I aren’t male?

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My vote is for Panti Bliss for the next Archbishop of Tuam as per the suggestion above at 9.08. Truth is it will make very little difference who’s sitting in the Cathedra. 🤷‍♂️

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I wonder if he’s related to Chesty Morgan, a legend from the seventies. She starred in a film called Deadly Weapons. 🍉🍉

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Pat,do you know anything about the poor Neo Cat that has to endure John Gates in Magherafelt. Nobody else wanted to be appointed there which says it all. Gates has already humiliated him by making him answer a survey online.

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Forcing a newly ordained to answer a like and dislike survey online is a form of abuse. I am surprised he went along with it in Magherafelt.

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He is merely being habituated for the next stunt he is to be “put up” for.

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Gates is a priest so is ontologically transformed and has a vocation. Who are you to criticize.

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He has been trained to be a mission creep. But he can make good, if he discovers his own original will.

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Horrible when men dress up in womens clothes and refer to other men by womens names. Would make you sick.

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You mean like every priest? There isn’t a single seminarian of Oscott who doesn’t have a name in religion.

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10.31am

Ecclesia supplet…….( Canon Law) is sophistry for centuries in the Roman Catholic Church….designed so that its impossible to get a hold on the meaning, as slippery as any eel or bishop.
It can be used as is seen fit in any circumstance by those who hold the “power” for its use….

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10.19pm
Clergy (your a good example) fail to understand or appreciate that the clerical child abuse and cover up scandal has decimated, terminally destroyed your reputation as moral or ethical agents or arbiters – of course you roll out tried and tested canards which you repeat to yourself to console yourself that it ain’t so bad (your example highlighted this – yoi say you’ve never worked with an abusing priest (how do you know?) and you point to two lay abusers etc.
All by the playbook revealing the depth of your defensiveness – if you truly understood you’d be content to be accused of being a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing, an Angel of Darkness Masquerading as an Angel of Light and suck up the view that the priest is the Institution as the price decent clergy will have to pay for years and years to come, if not forever.
The gravy train of public acclamation and esteem are well and truly over – it’s in the Zeitgeist most people in society and the church perceive EVERY RC priest to be a potential sexual predator, a menace and a real and present danger to children and young men – my advice, suck it up and get real, it’s called suffering for the gospel but you don’t like that you squeal like a little piggie all the way home.

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10.19: You are very offensive and totally wrong. All priests are NOT WOLVES iN SHEEP’S CLOTHING. I’ll defend my integrity, not you. lYou wrote this narrative before. It is fallacious in its logic, if any. In fact very often I have admitted to the negative and destructive effect which sexual abuse by clergy has had on the perception by many of Church and priesthood. I am under no illusions and that’s why I said the nature of relationships between priest and people have changed irrevocably. TRUST had to be earned. When I said I have never worked with an abusing priest, that’s 100% true and not one of those men has ever had any allegations against them. For me many of them were exemplary men and in my early years taught me much that stands to me this day. This is not to deny I know “of” priests who abused and are now no longer in ministry, some are in prison. Your type of ignorant slur and verbiage will certainly ensure the survival of the big lie that we are all potential abusers. Surely, you know that such an attitude is gravely wrong and sinful. Suffering for the gospel Isn’t about sucking up lies and deliberate falsities. Believe me, I know what suffering for the gospel should mean. May I respectfully suggest that you reread my original ccomment and you’ll discern that It’s written with great clarity and that it is well balanced, honest and fair.

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The fact that you say ‘I have never worked with an abusing priest’ indicates you don’t get it.
Think about how you would have to approach that idea differently to indicate you had the slightest inkling of the scale of the problem.
Are you the idiot who said the other week with incredible arrogance that nobody in your year in junior seminary had had an allegation of abuse?

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Anon at 2.49: The truth sadly is, that some commenters are just so ignorant, are of the hate brigade and will pump the same lies to stoke hatred, racism and prejudice. Ignore these vile people who use platforms on blogs to promote their hate agenda. TRUST in God and remember, as Jesus said, pray for those who hate you and persecute you…They might be converted.

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1.49
Magna’s psychosis poorly hidden. Tell-tale signs:
– insufferable obtuseness;
– obvious projection;
– chrinicresentment at being evicted;
– hostility towards priesthood;
– inability/unwillingness to put the low percentage of clerical and religious abusers (even one is too many) in the context of society’s level of sexual abuse of children;
– addition of anonymous comments purporting to not have been written by the same charlatan.

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2.53
You need counselling for your paranoia.
I should never use of any romanist priest the phrase ‘decent clergy’, unless it was tongue-in-cheek. The poster at 1.49 did.

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2.53: What an excellent resume of the evident traits of Magna’s distortions, lies, dysfunction and psychosis..There are so many more symptoms but we have sufficient here to prove conclusively that we are dealing with a schizophrenic personality, with someone who cannit distinguish between truth/reality and deviousness/pathological badness.

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This exchange is hilarious.
An anonymous person makes a comment.
Betty Smith suggests it’s Magna Carta.
Magna says not.
And then anonymous accuses Magna of having psychosis.
Jesus, if you could hear yourselves 🤣

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1:49 You are so wrong. Roman priests don’t squeal like little piggies. Half of them are stuffing themselves and are fat piggies. The other half are having piggie gay sex and being bred as we speak.
Some of them might be damning that they’ve got a vigil mass to get back for.

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4.07 pm. Nothing wrong with Magna. I think he has some interesting things to say.

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For how long was Fr Paul Bennett a Dominican? What were the circumstance of his transfer to Cloyne? Was there a transfer fee?

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Fr Bennett was NEVER a Dominican. He was in the novicate for a few months: you only become a member of an order when you make first profession.

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No. A Dominican novice is not a member of the order. They have no obligations to the order nor does the order to them. They can leave or be dismissed at any point of the novicate. As I said one only becomes a member with the making of profession. Dominican constitutions are online, freely available for your clarification.

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In that photo of the pilgrimage to Rome you can count the number of men on one hand. Women, mostly of a certain age, massively outnumber the men.

That pattern is repeated throughout the Church, where diocesan gatherings and workshops, synods and discussions are like a meeting of the WI or the Catholic Mothers Union. Why does the Novus Ordo find it so hard to attract men? The demographic at TLMs is much more representative.

Cardinal Heenan, when he saw the first Novus Ordo celebrated in the Matilda Chapel in the Vatican observed that if they did this in England the congregations would soon consist only of women and children. How far-sighted he was, except now we don’t even have the children.

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Pat, is today’s intriguing mention of the holidaymakers an amuse-bouche for something more substantial in future blogs?

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3.07
That comparison is skewed by the far greater disproportionate outnumbering by the celebrations of the reformed liturgy of those celebrations of the abrogated missal of Pope St Pius V of 1570.

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3:58 What happens then is the tat brigade will blame Vatican 2 and polyester and the trendies will blame the divisive 1962 crowd. They will both completely avoid the fact that any concept of Christian charity and living has left them decades ago.

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@3:15pm
The Missal of Pope St Pius V was never abrogated, the polyesters have tried for over fifty years to get rid of it. It will never happen, no matter who try’s ould Bergo will die but the Tridentine Mass will go on in saecula saeculorum long after that ould bollox is gone and forgotten.

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6.08
Bella, you’ve shown your true colours. Illiterate: “who try’s” is not English.
Low life: to refer to any person, pope or otherwise, in the vulgar terms you’ve done shows you have nothing in common with Robert Bellarmine.
Considering your knowledge of written English is so poor, it’s most unlikely you have any competence in Latin.

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Concerning Waterford and Lismore and all things Cullinane, is it correct that Fr. Edmund Cullinane of the Cullinane web is for Rome very soon?…… Oh the tangled webs they weave. He is a great acquaintance of the Wounded Wounder…….Its like looking at the back of a tapestry for most….all that stiching gives you no inkling of the very clear picture on the other side.

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Anon at 3.26: Buckley just doesn’t stink of badness: he epitomizes the essence of badness. This ‘man’ will preach the gospel tomorrow and then return to his laptop to stoke more hate incitement, scorn and lies, innuendo and spurious gossip about anyine he chooses. His is the work of Satan.

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My favorite bible passage is the one where Jesus tells the disciples to STFU about anything the apostles are getting up to, if they know what’s good for them.

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3.52
Instead of using the Bible to bore people, I’d suggest you might read it.

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Pat’s crozier, like all croziers, has a sharp pointed tip. Shepherd’s hooks do too. The point of the point is to demonstrate that an important episcopal duty is to guard the sheep from wolves. For too long, bishops forget the point, and have seen themselves as warm, pastoral, inoffensive types, and let the flock be ravaged by the Fr Brendan Smyth’s of this world.
It was only media attention and the courts that wakened bishops from their slumber and forced them into half-hearted responses to abuse. Pat keeps them on the boil.
Pat also exposes the rank hypocrisy of, one the one hand, blasting gay people and refusing them marriage, while the clergy go on like they are in a 70s San Francisco bathhouse, openly gay sems get ordained, and the pink palace of Maynooth was only marginally reformed by Pat’s single-handed exposure of the summer of love/summer of shame.
It’s a dirty job, but Pat’s got to do it because nobody else will. Not Francis, not Dermo, not Amy, not Mullaney, not the Irish Catholic or the SJs. None of them.

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Like a bishops household/office or a Papal Court you mean……when it suits them ? He is a bishop after all…..

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Most Rev Bishop Alphonsus Cullinan & Dom Richard Purcell really are a funny couple. Their suitability to be a hit documentary on Netflix is very evident. Phonsie needs the right platform to air is views. If he is outraged by yoga in schools I dread to think what position he would take in or on the Boilerhouse gay sauna. Phonsie’s position on Purcell’s organ playing is not known. Purcell is famous for showing off his organ to all the grannies along the East coast. I would welcome Phonsie’s position on this! Phonsie is not the type of guy who allows Purcell’s organ playing top him no matter his position.

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I am disappointed that no one….not a single contributor has referred to the fact that today’s blog includes two Fr Dicks. Who both like, well you know.

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BBC online news reports today of the CoE vicar of Batley, West Yorkshire, who has been jailed for nine years for sexual abuse of a three year old. His wife reported him to police by handing in his old phone loaded with sexual images of children. Well done Mrs. That will have taken courage.
And another “”Man of God” ‘bites the dust’ of ignominy!

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GB news had a harrowing interview today with an ex-Jehovah’s Witness.

Sorry if this enrages the people on the blog who go mental when non-Catholic abuse is mentioned, on the basis that that doesn’t really matter and should be ignored.

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No on the basis that you’re still denying the shoah caused by your clergy.
As shown by the way you phrase it.
More LIES from the Romanists.

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Abuse by anyone is terrible.
Luckily the Church of England went through ALL their clergy files actually looking for abuse and the JWs ‘disfellowship’ anyone who has abused.
NOT LIKE THE ROMAN CATHOLICS.
You’ve tried diverting to social workers and sensible churches and it just backfired.
Twat.

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There is a very good reason that people would query the morals and integrity of any priest (in fact member) of the Roman Catholic church and it’s not the common perception that all priests are child abusers.
It is that on a policy level and internationally the church covered this up, facilitated abuse and crime, moved priests across borders, ignored complaints, forced people to be further traumatized by dealing with the courts, denied there was a problem, refused to introduce proper safeguarding, refused to deal with external agencies, has only taken sensible action when forced to, and even this year didn’t even bother to acknowledge a letter from the United Nations, and then has the gall to call itself holy and try to tell other people what their morals should be.
If you can belong to or support this and expect not to be treated with at least suspicion there is something wrong with you.
Can a reasonable person of good will and morals belong to this and not think there is a problem? No.

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Thank you Magna. It does feel like banging your head against the wall but if nobody challenges their twisted world view they’ll be very surprised when Italy invades!

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Try modestly reducing your attendance at the P2, Mrs … “shout” … family dropped … St Martin’s Mere!

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Pat it is so funny when the priests come on here and go ‘stop making out we’re child abusers’, make out they’re concerned about safeguarding and then go on to say, Look everyone abuses children, thereby indicating their child abusers.
You’re absolutely right about academic standards slipping 🤣

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5.11 doesn’t see the irony of speaking about academic standards dropping and at the same time writing ‘their’ for ‘they are.’
Je reste ma valise!

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8.19: Think that should read- Je repose mon cas…(Valise = suitcase!!!). Aren’t you feeling stupid??

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2.49pm
Your rattled and defensive and not listening. The reputation of the Catholic priesthood is destroyed and irrevocably damaged – it will take centuries to rebuild trust if it can be rebuilt – your the butt of jokes, innuendo, jibes and gossip behind your backs because your perceived as child abusers, elitist and cover up merchants – Mass attendance is dropping month after month, the collection plate is diminishing too – get used to it hun – the old has gone, the new has come, new wine, new wine skins.

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The mere fact they’re still trying to control the response shows they prefer their privilege over the victims. Disgusting.

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For 4.31 and 6.07: I cannot disagree with much of your assessment in response to my comment at 2.49. My complaint is not about the truth of your analysis, however crudely and hurrfully expressed, but more the sense of gleeful delight revealed that as priests we deserve to be slaughtered, almost annihilated, disappeared. It seems very wrong that any of us should steamroll over any group or individual who is down on the ground almost because of the crimes committed by clerics and Church acquiescence, cover up and adversarial court proceedings. All of that shames me. That even one person should have been abused is egregious and repulsive. Somehow, despite my own sense of dedication to what the ideal of priesthood is and my efforts at seeking after all that is right, honourable and acceptable to God, I will not ever have any acceptance on this blog by many. Surely, respect is essential in this debate, not hate sentiments or personalised abuse.

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Thank you for saying you are shamed. You have to understand that when you say ‘respect is essential in this debate’ and ‘the ideal of priesthood’ because of the recent history many, many, people do not hear what you think you are saying.
It is for you, not anyone else, to think of a Christian response to this divergence which has been caused by your colleagues.
What people hear, whether you like it or not is
1. You think there is a debate to be had. There isn’t. The church needs to shut up and listen for a change.
2. You expect respect despite the horrendous history of torture facilitated by the church you represent. Personally, I couldn’t represent that church. If you choose to represent that church you need to understand the implications.
3. You think that there is an ideal of priesthood – other people hear this as you maintaining your position of privilege. You have to understand that that privilege has been destroyed by your church permanently and you need to proceed differently.
RCs also generally don’t understand how peculiar their religion looks to outsiders – the eating Jesus, telling a priest your sins, bits of saints’ dead bodies and so on, being examples that spring to mind.
Your colleagues have frankly failed to come up with any new theological solutions to this situation and have naturally reverted to the existing theologies such as martyrdom and persecution, even crucifixion. These don’t sit well when your church has committed torture.
I am going into this detail because it seems like you are actually in a place to listen.

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Why the purple prose @7.24pm ? You write in a highly-strung, laboured style which is hard to read.

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7.24: I’m afraid your narrative is adrift. Not interested in ugly, rude and racist debate. The God I believe in is the One I try to live by not negative and overly stated blog narratives, despite some elements of truth.

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8:12
Such kind words. Obviously my small attempt at reconciliation bore fruit. 🍑

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Hi Pat,
Will there be any further thrilling instalments about Scotland’s Daisy Chain anytime soon?
Or Mr Keenans problems with the Paisley Three.

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Lateral Flow.
We know who you are..
however are you asking about Mr Keenan’s Three in active Ministry with Boyfriends or the Three that is C/O Diocesan office.

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6:04 According to you, you know who everyone is 😂
Give my love to the Cardinal and tell him I’ll douche better next time.

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Well said @4:31.
Hello sailor! Are you content sailing on a leaking sinking rudderless ship with clueless officers and captain too busy arranging deckchairs to notice the impending disasters of shipwreck?
Will you sieze the first opportunity to abandon ship?
Hello RCC clerics. Have you anything (sensible) to say of this analogy to your organisation?
I won’t hold my breath!

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Bishop High Gilbert this week turned down the Archdioceses of Glasgow his reason being is he in 70 in March 2022 and 75 in March 2027 and that year 2027 he hope to be returning back to his Spiritual Home Fort Augustus.
It seems Cardinal Marc Ouellet is looking at Toal or Nolan at least Toal is active Nolan is a damp squib

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6.18
It was a total error on my part I was thinking about the horrendous cover up’s at Fort Augustus
It was meant to be Pluscarden Abbey where was Abbot from 1992 till ordained Bishop of Aberdeen 15th August 2011.
Bishop Hugh has been asked to reconsider Glasgow.

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@6:09pm
Bishop Gilbert wouldn’t want anything to do the disaster that is Glasgow no matter what age he is. The surprise is he hopes to return to the scandalous Fort Augustus which has been in the news recently with the usual abuse scandals that the Benedictines are infamous for. As for Toal and Nolan one’s worse than the other, but we’ll take the ould gossips word for it. That eejit Ouellet won’t act without taking the advice of Jim S.

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He probably would actually because the monastery (unsurprisingly) closed 20+ years ago and is now luxury flats! Better than Pluscarden any day!

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7.11
I thought I would have seen you all out on the Pride march today it was Fabulous.
Sadly only the Scottish Episcopalian had the gut with a banner saying the Scottish Episcopalians welcome you by Canon Kevin.
Cardinal Mark and Archbishop Gugerotti would not act on Jim S advice they are consulting the Faithful of Glasgow and ask that anyone with any views should email them to.
nuntius@globalnet.co.uk
Glasgow’s faithful need a new Shepherd all the 194,000

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7.11
Bella is ignorant and has a few things in common with Jim S: both are barely literate.
Imagine the travesty of someone like him taking the great Robert Bellarmine as his namesake. The sainted Jesuit had a particular devotion to the Roman pontiff – and in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries that required a superhuman act of faith.
Bellarmine – Bella: O tempora, o mores.

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Paul and Richard are two great guys. If they’re close friends, good luck to them. They’re both tall and complement each other well. They look good together.

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“The body launguage between Purcell and Phonsie is the body language of close friends.”

Tongues will wag, Bp Pat.

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8.24 pm
Finally, something I am most interested in. Well done 8.24 pm!!!
Come on spill, I absolutely want to know!
*Feels all excited*.

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Harry 9.03pm
Holiday for a month you say, mmmmm winding the clock down. They have probably gone to France, that is their usual haunt. Those two don’t give two flying fucks about the parishioners, it’s ALL about them and what THEY want. Well if this forthcoming year out doesn’t come good, then there is little chance of Bishop Declan finding them another four parishes to manage and another home for them to share together. Bloody disgraceful the way they have treated their parishioners, the minute they don’t get what THEY want, they decide to fuck off!

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If their parishoners are anything like you they are well out of it. They are wiping the dust from under their feet and leaving Clifton. It is not yet known if they are being replaced. Under Declan Lang’s uninspiring 1970s-era leadership, Clifton has no sems, while neighbouring Portsmouth has 11. Perhaps Philip Egan can lend him some.

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Lola and Mille are typical homosexual owner dogs. Real men have staffies or german shepherds, family men have Labradors.

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Absolutely, gay clergy love a Shih Tzu!! A PP of Armagh diocese used to be seen regularly with one in his car. He must have entrusted its welfare to a kennel somewhere when he went off on holidays to Tenerife with his gay PP friends, also from Armagh!!

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Sleepy Joe – devout Catholic lol – does not believe that life begins at conception.

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9.56pm : what a daft comment. Who cares what names the old queens call themselves. Seriously? Is this all you have to worry about ?

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I’m not sure what difference this really makes. I think the RCC have bigger concerns.

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10:03
The preoccupation with minutiae is because they’re determined to ignore the bigger problems!

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9.56
I bet you’re in the UK where formality is the order of the day – to keep all those 68 million from getting too close.

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‘All priests are NOT WOLVES iN SHEEP’S CLOTHING’
Jesus do you expect us to believe this shit when you read their comments!

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7:49
My favorite bible passage is the one where Jesus tells his followers to go on Bishop Buckley’s blog and troll it.

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I did. It said
Oxford is a registered trade mark of Oxford University Press in the UK and certain other countries.

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10.59, No! BEFORE you read it, the bible, read some critical analysis of its historical origins, analysis of its incorporation into the Christian Canon of beliefs, and then, hopefully, you’ll be in a better position to assess its relevance and authenticity.
I believe it’s a load of cobblers, but that’s up there for you to judge.

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Bishop Pat at 10:04 I am the person who has the parody bible passages and I also agree that the background etc are essential.
If only the person who hates my parodies could see my groaning shelves of biblical literature 😀

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11.35
Bella is a Sedevacantist – so not a Roman Catholic (pace his remarks on Pope Francis).
I picture him as a man in his 70’s, balding, poorly educated and a smoker, repeating a few lines ad nauseam, with few hobbies. In short, a miserable bore.

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@11:35pm

No I am not a sedevacantist and not yet in my seventy’s so as usual Jim S, Uriah Heep etc. etc. etc. the supreme fantasist is wrong. Living in her own wee world, saying she is University educated LOL I’m sure she is fa,t bald wears a hat thinking it hides it and lives entirely on gossip and her own unreal world.

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9.39
Jim S is 60 5,11 tall 34in waists 15.5 Collar, size 9 shoes goes not wear a cap and my hair is white so I decided Kool.
University studied Business management BA and spent it is the Hospitality industry and soon KPMG Intrusive.
Home life lived a lone for 40 years with my poor previous dog who passed away at 13.50 fast approaching 60 in few week and all gifts are going to Mary’s Meals.
Bella a DWP Administered (retired) nearer 70 with her money in his clutch bag and trolley for shopping.
I am a Gloria Gaynor fan and I am who I am said like some not into married of bi men however Bella will have great joy in getting man handles on her final journey as she has the Daisy Chair funeral director line up so at least a man will see your last stiffy Oh the thoughts 😦
Bella just attacks and it is water of the Back as I say the pray of St Francis and thinking about Our Supreme Pontiff that the SSPX assure me of course we pray for the Office of the Supreeme Pontiff.

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The trouble with sodalities and their covenants is:
1 – They are solely about “behaviour” inducing.
2 – They start by promising they will be less intense than ordinary religion but very soon are far more intense.
3 – Always refuse to act as public confessor to others. Don’t feel sorry for others who appear to be in the same boat as you – it’s not a true favour to them.
4 – They have no postulancy, and one never becomes a full member.
5 – Superiors and their chain of subordination (they are above archbishops in power) never get effectively identified.
6 – Statutes needn’t bear any relation to actuality.
7 – Stated raison d’etre (if any) is completely meaningless and often shifts anyway (sometimes one is there as someone’s “armada”, sometimes one is there to learn about “faith”, etc).
8 – Never volunteer for anything whatever as the brownie points you will be awarded are worthless.
Always impose your concept more strongly than the leaders’, and always walk out – noisily – after 4 (four) years max.

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9.48 am

Oh for goodness sake, don’t be so childish. You are supposed to be a grown man FFS!

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9.48 am
Further, you do not know whatsoever whether they are leaving Clifton Diocese. so stop making things up.
Also, stop slagging off Bishop Declan.
Now shove off you old trout!

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