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SQUATTERS RIGHTS?

Squatters rights is a crude colloquial expression for what the law itself, calls ADVERSE POSSESSION.

I think the law varies in each jurisdiction but the following things are important:

1. The claimant must have had possession of the property for a minimum of 12 years.

2. The claimant has had exclusive control of the property for that time.

3. The owners of the property must be aware that the claimant is in possession.

4. The claimant must use the property in such a way as to display his intention to own the property

5. The claimant must never have paid rent to the owner.

6. The claimant must not be in possession of the property through any form of force or threat.

APPLYING FOR ADVERSE POSSESSION

In the UK people apply through the Land Registry Agency.

There is a form to complete and a strong body of evidence required.

If you afford a lawyer all the better.

But you can represent yourself as a personal litigant.

Thats not an easy task.

People who want more information on adverse possession can consult the SHELTER housing charity website.

From BBC

SPANISH BISHOP LEAVES TO MARRY EROTIC AND SATANIC NOVELIST.

When Spanish bishop Xavier Novell resigned last month, the Roman Catholic Church cited strictly personal reasons without going into detail.

It has now emerged in Spanish media that he fell in love with a woman who writes Satanic-tinged erotic fiction.

In 2010 at the age of 41, he became Spain’s youngest bishop, in Solsona in the north-eastern region of Catalonia.

He has backed so-called conversion therapy for gay people and carried out exorcisms.

Seen as a rising star in Spain’s Catholic Church, his decision to resign with the Vatican’s approval came as a surprise last month. He is said to have met several times with Vatican officials as well as the Pope himself.

Xavier Novell was traditional in his remarks on abortion but his strident views on homosexuality and outspoken support for Catalonian independence were controversial.

It came as a shock when Religión Digital reported that he had fallen for divorcee Silvia Caballol, a psychologist and erotic novelist. The news site said that the former bishop was now looking for a job in the Barcelona area as an agronomist.

Caballol

Caballol’s books include titles such as The Hell of Gabriel’s Lust and the trilogy Amnesia. In the blurb for one of her works, the reader is promised a journey into sadism, madness and lust and a struggle between good and evil, God and Satan with a plot to shake one’s values and religious beliefs.

Neither the ex-bishop, who is now 52, nor the novelist have responded to the reports although Religión Digital quoted him as saying “I have fallen in love and want to do things properly”.

The diocese has since responded by emphasising that “corroboration or not of this story is a strictly personal matter for him alone”.

The issue has again raised the issue of celibacy within the Church. In earlier interviews, Xavier Novell admitted that in his youth he had fallen in love with an 18-year-old girl and he had later wanted to marry and have children before deciding on a different path.

His change of heart has prompted grumblings within the Church. Dominican nun Lucía Caram said he was “out of his mind” and criticised his promotion of “conversion therapy”.

PAT SAYS:

Someone made the point the other day that there is now a great variety show of misbehaviour and deviance among the clergy and episcopate.

I suppose a bishop running off with a Satanic and erotic novelist is a new turn?

And the old Pharisee was promoting conversion therapy for gay people.

As ne granny used to say: bad cess to him.

95 replies on “SQUATTERS RIGHTS?”

He is just another KOB, Bp Pat, and has been “at it” all the time but with women, although I have my doubts. He looks gay as a Christmas tree.

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I have a non disclosure agreement with a major UK Government Department in NI that I used to work for. I complained about an equality matter and went to court. After a bit of to and fro, we settled on the steps of the court about two years after it all started.

In return for a quarter of a million, I agreed to resign but was also required to never reveal publicly any matters to do with the case or the issue complained about.

The great thing is that the NDA applies also to them as the other party, so they cannot talk about me or diss me either.

The even better thing is that I didn’t have to pay a washer in court fees – my union took on the case and paid it all.

And the really, really best thing is that I am now working for a different Government Department, doing more or less the same job, and on a higher salary than the job I left. The NDA means I am not obliged to refer to my departure and the former employer cannot mention it in their reference.

And yet the fool says in his heart that there is no God?

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@12:17. Is your story the full story? I ask as I thought that if one retired with a pension then resumed in a different government job, the pension from former job would be cut. In effect, one was barred from receiving both a full government pension and salary simultaneously.
However, we’ll done you for standing up for your rights.

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Hi 5.45pm, you are right about the pension. I didn’t get an immediate pension as part of the settlement. The payment was a lump sum and was an ex-gratia payment made without any admission of liability. There is no ongoing payment, however the pension I earned in the alpha scheme is preserved and will be paid in the usual way at age 60.
In my current role I am paid my salary for the and accrue pension benefits under the new scheme, which will pay out when I’m 67. My two periods of service are not linked.
My payment was the largest that the union’s lawyers had ever heard of, and it reflected the gravity of the issue and the employer’s extreme reluctance to have it played out in public.

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Also, I was previously employed by the Home Civil Service but the current job is in the Northern Ireland Civil Service, a totally separate entity albeit with very similar terms and conditions. I was very glad that I was in a union. They paid for a solicitor and a QC, because the Crown Solicitor’s Office engaged a QC, so the whole thing must have cost a fortune, though I never asked how much.

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A woman in Northern Ireland and a priest in the Republic had sent me emails asking about it.

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PS The priest was writing about a family matter, not a church matter.

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Borng issues for today, Pat, except the Bishop story. What can we say about him? All very strange choosing the satanist author!! 👺👹👿☻😈😈..Are they possessed if something other than love?

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I recently acquired a house and land under adverse possession. It was a long hard fight and the lawyers cost me a fortune. But it was a matter of principle. I would dread having to go through the whole process again. It was unbelievably stressful.

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+ Pat, is it true that you have recently acquired the coriner’s report into Fr Lomasney’s death. RIP.

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What legal basis did you have for obtaining a copy? The report is made available to anyone with “proper interest” this is NOT a public docunent.

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The coroner says it’s a public document. But maybe you know better than the coroner.

I am a citizen of Ireland conducting enquiries into the circumstances surrounding the death of another Irish citizen – with a concern that other people may have been affected by the illness and death of the deceased.

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I know more than you Pat. If an inquest was held then the report and all other evidnece tendered during the hearing is public by virtue of the fact an inquest is held in public.

Have you no respect at all for the living or the dead?

As they say everything happens for a reason, like the reason you were kicked out of the Church by Cahal et al.

Imagine the state of affairs of the already toxic institution had you not come under the radar for expulsion sooner.

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9:38

Official reports of inquests
As inquests are public enquiries, it is possible to obtain a copy of the post-mortem report and any depositions taken at the inquest, including a copy of the verdict. These official reports are only available after the inquest has concluded. There is a small fee for these documents. Inquest papers are not available before the inquest has been held.

Citizens Advice Bureau Ireland.

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Will the report be the subject of a blog one day, Bp Pat? Just asking for a friend.

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That is a very real possibility.

Is your friend concerned about his health?

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9:56

In hindsight, God used the “ould nun” to free me from the Roman Empire Mk II. O Felix Culpa 😇

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@10:02pm

Nasty, Lord rest Cardinal Daly, he wasn’t my cup of tea either. To much into the polyester,but he wasn’t the worst ould skin, when you see what we’ve got now. We cant even say O Felix Roma now as we could in the good ould day’s

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10:48am
Were you a friend or did you work with the late Cardinal? Were you privy to his wardrobe?

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Big micl lomasaney got caught and exposed , now we know everything even the cause of his death, thanks to Bishop Pat,obviously very upsetting for his collaborators.
Ha ha ha

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9.27 Perhaps you should chat to the ex cleric who put intimate pictures of Fr Lomasney on his dating profile in order to attract those into priests. This was 9 months after Fr Lomasney’s death. Is that fair?

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Pope Francis has suggested (allegedly and apparently) that the bishop has himself been influenced by evil and Satan and an exorcism might be in order to bring him back to his senses (the bishop himself had an exorcism ministry).
That may be but perhaps being party to covering up clerical sexual abuse in Chilie and Argentina requires an exorcism too – a deed of the dark if ever there was one – we see the devil at play when it is convenient to place blame and explain errant behaviour.
I think if the bishop receives an exorcism so should Pope Francis and every bishop, who I fear are deeply and darkly committed to cover up and concealment.

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11:05 am
The parable of the nosey bollox is a variation of the parable of the sanctimonious bollox.
The Harrington Road brigade have parables all of their own with matching lace.Beauties.

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11.50
Bella uses foul language (usually made worse by poor grammar, syntax and punctuation, as in this instance, wrong capitalization). He used this term in relation to Pope Francis.

At the same time he expresses a preference for pious practices, the Tridentine Mass, particular vestments etc.

Fundamentally, he’s not an integrated person or a petson of integrity. His relgion is a sham.

At the same time

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12: 42

We won’t mention anything of the State mandate given to social work as its raison d’etre. Nor will we mention the usefulness of the social interventions of social workers or injurious effects of such interventions. Public inquiries into such matters speak for themselves.

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@11:09. ALL religion is a sham inasmuch as it cites a god given mandate as its raison d’etre. That it’s “useful” by reason of its social functions is debatable given its injurious effects on both individuals and communities.
MMM

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@12:25pm

It’s Harrington Street not Road Uriah, your brain is probably fried from when you electrocuted yourself. With all that cheap polyester you insist on wearing.

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12:42 pm

Is it Road Uriah off Harrington Road Dublin or Road Uriah off
Wolfe Tone Road Limerick? Why the apparent fixation with polyester?

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9:34

Maybe, Pat. I said …at least…unlike many who remain leading double hypocritical lives.

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“Church cited strictly personal reasons without going into detail… “corroboration or not of this story is a strictly personal matter for him alone”.”
The usual story of say as little as possible, minimise the scandal and move on as if there’s nothing to see.
The departed bishop would ordinate a deacon accepting the vow of celebacy. The hypocrisy!
While he, most likely, wrongly led a double life for a while, he has done the right thing to resign.

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@11:09am
Granny Grammer arises from her smelly pit to give her usual corrections. She really should check her own spelling before commenting on others. Fundamentally she is such a bore, it’s person not petson try spellcheck dear. You have no integrity and I’m sure your religion is as false as you are.

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12.42: MMM: The new Magna – repeat, repeat, repeat…You have said this 1000’s of times. We know your views. They become tiresome and boring. Nothing to do with the issue for today.

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“Them that have eyes to see, and ears to hear………”
But it seems that those imbued with the contagion of childhood, family and community reinforced religious beliefs are unable and unwilling to objectively examine the credibility of their beliefs.
@ 6.31: I’ve asked many times on this blog for someone, anyone, to provide ANY evidence for their religious beliefs. They haven’t. At best, they cite personal belief, or that mysterious essence called FAITH.
Can you do better?
Or can anyone?
MMM

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Yes that is my comment @ 11:12. I forgot to put in my ‘handle-name’.
MMM

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1. September 2018 since when there has been no more Communion, pulled the ground from under the feet of hitherto decent suffragan bishops, priests and seminarians in quiet places. They now know this. The only way I can help them is by mentioning it from time to time.
2. A gent who was trying to “obtain possession of” this blog by not addressing ongoing issues made it clear he is in fact an arch Vatican City Statist himself. Priesthood only ever was a decoy in the eyes of the Vatican City State and its foreign partners, and this gent never intended to sway the “vatibots” but to collude with them.
3. Bp Pat, you modestly diverted attention from the main benefit at your Oratory, namely that you do not have Vatican City State baggage. (I think public sentimentality about “sacraments” dangerous with “intercommunion” looming, and with religion becoming more – not less – politically charged.)

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The lady the bishop is to marry is v attractive – the boy did good – let’s see if their union lasts. He bailed out on his ordination vows whose to say he won’t bail on his marriage ones.
Time will tell I guess – although I’m sceptical about his episcopal rise as I’m sure that’s dependent more on the episcopal gay lobby in Spain, which Martel confirmed in full swing, if uiu pardon the expression.

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A straight bishop leaves Holy Orders to shack up with a straight author and already there are references to LGBT+ people in this comments section. +Pat, while you yourself are not guilty personally, your blog appears to be slipping out of your control and becoming a hot bed for homophobia and hatred reminiscent of the likes of Taylor Marshal and the trad cult. It certainly seldom makes for a warm and welcoming image for Christianity. Is it any wonder people are turning their backs on Catholicism?

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Some priests seem to want to live the double-oh-7 lifestyle and the double-oh-heaven lifestyle.
Are widowers joining the priesthood and/or priests leaving the priesthood for women, the only way for some to quantity that heterosexual men do join the clerical state?

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He’ll not do anything to make the priests close ranks because he’s dependent on them for gossip. Thus he is codependent with his master the church of Rome.

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I don’t hold much hope that this union will last. The baggage both bring to their partnership would be enough to sink ten marriages.

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HOW- HI FLY,
How’s it going aul stock.
Denmark’s not alone. But we’re not dead yet.
The good LORD will have the last word so hold tight for now.
Have too many thrown baby out with the bathwater.
The Church these days is more NGO than IHS.
Back to basics for many methinks.
May the Lord bless us….
Bye Bye Fly Hi.

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I am aware of one group in Ireland involving clergy and lay people who gather on religious sites to do their satanic thing. There is even evidence to prove that. A very nasty group.

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2.43: Tell us or shut up…gossip, hearsay…tell us what you know. If you are aware, give us correct information. Have you gone to Gardai?

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New president of Cistercian College Roscrea and new chairman of board of school and no monks on the new board are they going to Melleray. Very sad.

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Seamus Hennessy a sem for Limerick back in the 80s was appointed to the new board. Comhghairdeas.

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Why is the Abbot of Mount Melleray at the ordination in Killaloe diocese? His former abbey, Roscrea, is in the diocese of Killaloe. Does this mean that he still has some sort of jurisdiction over Roscrea since the community in Roscrea still has no abbot and appears to have been downgraded like a sub post office

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7:35, Roscrea was founded by monks from Mount Melleray. Roscrea is seen as a daughter house. That is why Mount Melleray were able to elect the abbot of another monastery as their abbot.
His 6 year term as abbot of Roscrea would have ended in June this year. He has at least 2 more years as abbot. ☹️

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Well, your mandate has certainly rose the standards of comments on here to the level of a worms tit.

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I’ve been thinking about squatters rights and the crisis in housing and the sensitive subject of church property.

I read of a Russian Oligarch who annoyed his neighbours with his plans for his county estate which impinged on locals property and freedoms. They protested but he won but has agreed to build 25 houses for first time buyers.

It made me think of the Catholic Church whose true wealth in property must be off the richter. The Vatican alone has over 5000 properties world wide and I imagine each diocese has a surfeit of land and buildings.

Wouldn’t it be amazing if homeless people could first squat and then own some of this property?

How many presbyteries are empty in Ireland?

The church does token work in this area but imagine something daring and imaginative and even pushing the law to breaking point by encouraging squatting and taking back the land and property and distributing it to the homeless.

I have noted that clergy click the plumb parishes and they are often given to priests who are in favour and not so plumb given to those who are on the margins, not in the circle of trust or patronage.

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8:32,
It was the archbishop who sparked the government request by a recent comment that “radical action” was needed. I’m not so sure he expected the government’s request in response!
To answer your question; 15,000 residential units are to be built on state land.

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Priests who fall out of favour with their Bishop get shit parish appointments. On a seperate note I hear pervert McCamley is getting his way around Dungannon. Another disaster waiting to happen.

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6.34
Well done on your generous attitude towards property you don’t own!

And what about property you do own?

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What was the hurry in appointing that man as a Bishop? I thought they only appointed them so young in places where there was a shortage of qualified candidates. There surely was someone in their 50s who would have been suitable, that would have prevented this whole fuss.
As for adverse possession, people look down at it with the term “squatters rights” because of the naïve and limited idea most have about the purpose of law. Sometimes justice is really served by not depriving a person of something which for all intents and purposes had been theirs in all but title.

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St John Chrysostom said that if we give to the poor we are only giving what is rightfully theirs.

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There are many, but two in particular, whose teachings/ writings have never actually found praxis after them ; Jesus The Christ and Karl Marx; though many have practiced in their name…..

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Pat, when you were ordained, and started out as a curate, did your room in the presbytery you lived in come furnished or did you have to buy your own furniture? In Clogher newly ordained priests were sent to unfurnished houses and had to buy their own furniture which they took from appointment to appointment. I am not sure if that is still the case, though.
Also, do newly ordained priests get a terms and conditions document telling them where they are going, what they’ll be paid and what is expected of them and what they can expect from the diocese, or are they just thrown in at the deep end?

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