Categories
Uncategorized

POPE ACCUSED OF PLAYING GOD OVER VATICAN TRIAL.

October 6, 2021 by Peter Complicit Clergy

A rare trial that puts a cardinal, his “lady,” and several con men in the dock inside the hallowed halls of the Holy See will start in earnest on Tuesday amid concerns that Pope Francis has made sure all 10 defendants will be convicted.

Becciu

It should be noted that the Vatican does not pretend to be a democracy. The pope is for all intents and purposes an authoritarian leader who can hire and fire anyone in his government at will.

That he also makes the laws without committee, changes rules without consensus, and delivers decrees with impunity usually works without major issues. But the defense teams in this high profile case argue that they are now caught in the gray area between who the pope likes and who he doesn’t.

The trial involves a €350 million property purchase in London with funds meant for the poor said to be swindled from the papal charity fund by trusted bankers. According to a 487-page indictment handed down in June, charity money meant to free a captive nun in Colombia also allegedly went instead to kit out a female consultant with designer bags and fancy shoes.

The only woman on trial, Cecilia Marogna, was a “security consultant” rumored to be a close acquaintance of Cardinal Angelo Becciu, a 73-year-old papal nemesis Pope Francis fired last September.

MAROGNA

“It’s all surreal. Up until yesterday… I felt I was a friend of the Pope, the faithful executor of the Pope,” Becciu, who is the highest-ranking prelate to ever face such charges, said in an interview after he was canned. “Then the Pope told me that he no longer had faith in me because he got a report from magistrates that I committed an act of misappropriation.”

All 10 defendants face charges ranging from embezzlement and money laundering to abuse of power and extortion.

In addition, more than 40 companies are also named as potentially complicit, especially on the charges of money laundering.

Becciu is charged for his role in the disastrous London deal, which cost the Vatican losses of more than $415 million, in addition to allegedly funneling funds to his brother’s charity and Morgona’s company in Slovenia to the tune of more than $1,000,000. They all deny culpability and have pleaded not guilty to the charges.

But defense lawyers have argued—in a slew of motions hastily filed last week—that the fact that the Holy See is not a signatory to any international convention that guarantees fair trials means there is no way any of those facing charges will get one.

Among the motions filed are claims of procedural violations, among them that the prosecution failed to hand over discovery documents including evidence from a turncoat who was a former associate of the defendants.

Flabio Viglione, attorney for the cardinal, told reporters that these violations are “harmful” to the defendants’ rights and could adversely impact their right to a fair trial.

PAT SAYS:

The pope may not be God but he is reputed to be God’s representative on earth. No?

Does it not say in canon law that no one can challenge the pope?

He is a formidable enemy – especially in the RC world. You pribably couldn’t have a bigger enemy in the that arena.

The Vatican is full of gangsters from top to bottom.

Beccui seems like a well-oiled gangster to me.

God knows what his relationship with Marogna involves?

If he is straight that’s unusual.

I’m glad Francis is rattling the gangsters gates.

Im glad he is rattling the gates of the right-wingers.

But what of Francis’ past and the the strokes he pulls?

Maybe it takes one to know one?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

108 replies on “POPE ACCUSED OF PLAYING GOD OVER VATICAN TRIAL.”

It’s absolutely bizarre. I am not aware of Vatican city having extradition treaties with anywhere else so the subjects of this show trial just need to stay well away from the tinpot banana monarchy. I’m sure Becciu has more than enough lucre put away to live on for the rest of his life.

Like

11.03
Love Live Our Pope The Great the Good.

He is one of the people not a Man of All Seasons not a Benny or Superstar JP but a Prayerful and Humble Man it is awesome that you notice His humbleness.
Hopefully His Successor will have the courage and the gifts of the spirit to keep going with his Way.

Like

Oul Gossip Alert@9:45am

She’s arisen from her scratcher to defend the indefensible. Hopefully his humbleness and his Polit Bureaux of nine all of them to the left of Stalin soon depart, the advisers from he
ll as we can all see.😂😂😂

Like

Why do you@ 9:45, want him to “live long?”
Don’t you want him to die soon to go to his heavenly reward?
Oh this religious heavenly business is very mysterious 👌😌👏

Like

“I’m glad Francis is rattling the gangsters gates.” You can’t fool us Papist Pat. They told him which ones were no use to them any more.

Like

Bangor Barry
We want him to live longer to continue the Magnicent job he is doing and he needs more time then he will certainly get his Heavenly reward.
There will be a Consistory be appoint new Cardinals so Pope Francis legacy lives on and the Church stays on this route of transformation.
The LMB will be praying for cardinal Burke or Sarah but they have no chance stay in the True fold or with your self made organisations.

Like

Oul Gossip Alert@5:03pm
Oh! he’s doing a magnificent job alright of destroying any vestiges of Catholicism left. His legacy will not be forgotten, as the most divisive pope ever. He’ll get his reward alright but it wont be heavenly, it will be sitting in the hub of hell next to his great pal Luther and all the false amazon gods he’s so keen on. The Polyester Brigade can enjoy what they call a transformation just now, it will not last. Thankfully God will not be mocked and the Church will be restored to become the True Fold which it certainly is not at the moment.😌

Like

Anyone able to translate 5:03’s illiterate gibberish into something sensible?
Why is it that a lot of the most incomprehensible comments seem to come from the most “devout believers?” Is there some link here, perhaps of a causal nature?

Like

Pope Francis is a Peronist – a Machiavellian character, less black and white, more black is white and white is black.
He handed over two fellow Jesuits to the right wing military Junta who tortured and imprisoned them.
He was exiled by his brother Jesuit’s because of his authoritarian rule as Provincial.
He is a cover up merchant, not so much blood on his hand as victims lives spilt on the floor of ecclesiastical cover up and obsfucation.
He protects abusers and miscreants on the run from the police hiding them in the Vatican.
He and Ratzinger couldn’t set foot in their own countries for fear of arrest.
He is poacher and gamekeeper all wrapped up in pontifical dark arts.
He is a wolf among wolves and deadly queens.
I suspect he is a formidable enemy and has formidable enemies.
Their are videos on YT of him completely losing it – angry and pissed off and revengeful – oh and violent, he can and will lash out. He is a Latino to his very core.
A £350 million property fraud is small fry. The Banco Ambrosia scandal was 1.3 billion and it was never recovered.
The trial will collapse and be an embarrassing fiasco – the Vatican couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery let alone a fair trial.
Of course the Cardinal on trial is a crook but it’s proving it that’s tricky.
Did Elsie or Westminster Financial Officers know about this massive fraud right under their noses?
Elsie knows when a Canon farts in his diocese he definitely knows all about this!!

Like

12.04
After two or three lines of this illegible nonsense, I looked at the time it was posted and the proverbial penny dropped.

Like

Patrick I know you aren’t a great supporter of Francis even when he did order your arrest within the Vatican State. But you have got to hand it to him that he is trying to clean up the system. The last one who tried to do that ended up dead. I know you to be a fair pastor because I have spoken with a few up North who speak highly of your help and support. I think he is doing his best but he is swimming against the tide.

Like

A pity Frank doesn’t act with such alacrity against clerical child abusers, I wonder how he would react to child abusers that also stole from the church?

Like

I am sure Bergolio is no shrinking violet. He was a bouncer after all. These oily self-serving gangsters need taking on. Also, the polished men in suits offering the Vatican dubious offshore investment schemes and bent lawyers need banishing too.

Like

With 350million swindled from the poor and a third of a million sexually abused, the church is not sticking to it’s mission statement. It’s quite surreal and yet people still turn up for mass.

Like

€350M! Crazy money. Clergy and parishioners gather for worship as theists and humble followers of Christ. The money being spoken about is in a completely different world to parochial finances.

Like

No it isn’t. Parochial finances prop up and provide a respectable cover story for the reality behind. Talk about being in denial.

Like

5:02 pm

Don’t forget about ‘Peters Pence’, Seamus. What does,… ‘people can see the safeguarding measures with their own eyes at a parochial level,..’ mean in practice? Unpack please, Seamus.

Like

11:34,
Contributions are at a parochial level. As someone on here says; the moaners never give and the givers never moan.
It’s understandable that some want to cut off the resources of the Church community. When the church hosts a charity concert, people donate generously. When the congregation gathers for weekly worship, people donate generously.
Scandals have affected the Church’s coffers. Current day generosity is influenced by expectations that lessons have been learned and that safeguarding is in place. People can see the safeguarding measures with their own eyes at a parochial level.
A scandalous padre brings unwanted shame on a parish. Through know fault of parishioners, a dark cloud is cast over the parish. The bishop will seek to remedy the situation for the distraught parishioners. The next appointment is of utmost importance to bring healing.
Any safeguarding concerns must be brought to Gardaí.

Like

6:55 pm
No response from Seamus to my question @ 4:52pm & 7:36pm.
Surprise,surprise, surprise. Seamus, the priest, who runs with the hare and hunts with the
hounds, while simultaneously quoting scripture, promoting peace, love, wiping dust and safeguarding. I have very serious concerns,Seamus.I won’t be bringing my concerns to a catholic safeguarding agency funded by the church; an institution which continues to cover up abuse cases.I made a discovery earlier this evening which is truly shocking.
The problem with the institutional church is credibility. It is non existent at this stage, Seamus,on so many levels, including diocesan, parochial and safeguarding levels.

Like

7:36, safeguarding information is readily available on the church notice board, website and on the newsletter ahead of training day workshops. From responsible people in the sacristy to consent forms and vetting, safeguarding works and is visible.
Are you going to answer my question; do you have a safeguarding concern?

Like

10.25 you left the sodalities, the quangoes and the dicasteries off your list; also the metropolitan archbishops whose job it is to sabotage smaller dioceses “hands off”.
5.02 I see the Seamus Seven put the wrong Seamus on the rota this evening. Your motto is evidently “do as you would not be done by the police”.

Like

11:25,
I am some man for one man alright. One of me however is enough I’m sure! 😉
Safeguarding practices are safe in my own humble experience. If anyone distrusts the Church’s safeguarding, that’s perfectly fine and understandable. Tusla is the independent body. People can go straight to the Gardaí.
The Church and all community groups have safeguarding practices. There is independent oversight.
10:25, 11:25, if there is a weakness in safeguarding, highlight the weakness. You don’t have to go into detail but list the area of concern. What is happening that should not be happening?

Like

8:30 am

Don’t worry, Seamus. I’ll highlight the weakness in the High Court, if I have to, before letting you know of happenings. In my humble opinion, there is a major-and I mean major- problem coming down the tracks for Episcopal leaders. Pax, Seamus.

Like

@ 8:30 am
“There is independent oversight.”
What do you mean in the context of Rcc safeguarding?
Tusla and the Gardaí are statutory bodies.
A church safeguarding agency must be totally independent of Rcc involvement with Rcc employees.

Like

1:29, the Child and Family Agency became an independent legal entity in 2014?
The Church and community groups provide safeguarding as required. If you’ve a strong desire for more independent oversight, which is perfectly reasonable to seek, contact Roderic O’Gorman (Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth) and your locally elected representatives.

Like

@ 2:37 pm
Tusla is a Statutory agency established in 2014 as an independent legal entity. It is an amalgamation of HSE Children and Family Services, the Family Support Agency and the National Educational Welfare Board as well as incorporating some psychological services including a range of services responding to domestic, sexual and gender-based violence.
It has nothing to do with the RCC no more than the C of I or The Moonies ! Yesterday a contributor, FSF at 12:57pm, posting in relation to 216,000 children abused by French Catholic Priests, put his/her finger on a considerable difficulty; ” as individual state courts are all in on the cover-up together with the prosecutorial systems in every country in the World “…I would also strongly suggest State agencies can also be included in assisting covering up for the Ecclesiastical establishment. Contacting local or National politicians is a total waste of time, effort and energy, as is contacting Vatican officials/authorities. In due course a National Safeguarding Agency will be established as an independent legal entity with no RCC involvement or any other vested interest group involvement, for the sake of all citizens of the Irish State, not just those wearing religious garb.

Like

@ 7:14 pm
Take a guess!
The destruction of lives through abuse coupled with wilful cover up by any community group, particularly by or on behalf of the Ecclesiastical establishment is an abomination before Almighty God. You may number crunch on percentages of clerics who did or did not abuse. The difficulty for the Ecclesiastical Church lies in the fact every Ordinary in Rcc worldwide was instructed by Rome under crimen sollicitationis. Dioceses were to use the instruction for their own guidance and keep it in their archives for confidential documents. This document remained in effect until May 2001. Potentially, every Ordinary in every diocese in this State covered up abuse in the interests of the Institutional Church. While the main mission of the Vatican purports to help bring the message of the Gospel to the ends of the earth, they appear to dedicate far more time and resources to presenting a false façade of moral integrity to the world. The same can be said for the Irish branch of the Rcc.
In due course this façade will completely slip resulting in Irish citizens demanding an Independent National Safeguarding Agency. This false façade is currently slipping.

Like

8:43, the UK had an Independent Safeguarding Agency. The Independent Safeguarding Authority (ISA) merged with the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) to form the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS).
Is that the template you are looking to replicate in Ireland? What are the UK benefitting from DBS that Ireland is missing out on by only having Tusla?

Like

@ 9:50 pm
To be determined. I’m not going to be prescriptive on templates appropriate to Ireland.
I suggest studying the Maurice McCabe case and the role of the child and family agency, Tusla.

Like

The Vatican does all its questionable London property deals behind a company called British Grolux Investments. Its aided by respected solicitors Stephenson Harwood. The firm has a Gay CEO

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commentary-and-opinion/lgbt-history-month-im-an-lgbt-lawyer/5107420.article

You can see all the names of the directors that add credence to the Vatican’s dealings.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03727578

Interesting that God’s banker aka John Varley ex of Barclays has quit.

Like

🙂 🙂 🙂
Scripture over rules Canon Law.
Canon Law are “Company” Rules.
Scripture is the Gospel and Life.
The Eucharist is the centre of the RCC.

Like

9:51 You really have swallowed the party line haven’t you. If that was so, yesterday’s news wouldn’t have happened.
The only explanation for the relentless corruption, crime, and avarice of the RC church is that the religious bit is a front for a criminal cabal.
Read back through this blog a bit and ask yourself if the clergy believe their religion. No, is the answer.

Like

11.09 I’ve concluded the Holy RCC decided liturgies in whatever languages are of no importance, early on in the 1950s, therefore the frequent tinkering with the even more important liturgy that replaced the previous even more important liturgy is a distraction technique from the political influence drive. Since yesterday I am heartbroken that the forever priests don’t really conjure Jesus to magic the bread into smarties, after all. (And I’ve known sane and kind clergy, whose vision of true faith gets eclipsed.)

Liked by 1 person

11.07
So catholic take it you are part of the Latin Mass brigade and totally unchristian.
never a Christian word you utter sadly you will likely be a weekly confessor or use the excuse past canonical age.

Like

I started reading Taylor Marshalls book about infiltration and wasn’t impressed when in the first chapter he went by another version of the La Salette revelations rather than the authorised one, because he wanted to.
Another Protestant who thinks they’re a Catholic.

Like

Oul Gossip Alert@4:29pm
You don’t know the meaning of being a Christian. You’re such a liar living your fantasy life. Saying you’re University Educated🤣 that you’re studying for the Permanent Diaconate 🤣
giving out you’re living at two different places at the onetime🤣 I don’t think you have the gift of bilocation, get the psychiatric help you so badly need.

Like

11.09: This blog attracts repeat commenters who have a bias and prejudice against the Church and its priests. While some comments are very perceptive and necessary, yours is a soyndbyte contribution. This blog is not the sole possessor of truth, justice, mercy or compassion. Many, many priests live these qualities and are appalled at any and every abuse. You, sir, do not speak for me.

Liked by 1 person

Did I say I did, madam?
Incidentally I have taken a vow to continue to face Roman Catholic cultists with the truth about their cult. Especially the ones who refuse to see it.
Your salvation and the liberty of the human race are at stake, madam.

Like

The outcome of any trial in the Vatican is a foregone conclusion:
‘VATICAN CITY (AP) — A Vatican tribunal absolved a former altar boy of charges that he molested a younger boy in the Vatican’s youth seminary, ruling Wednesday in the first clergy sexual abuse trial to be heard by the pope’s criminal court.
The three-judge panel acquitted Rev. Gabriele Martinelli of some charges and ruled others couldn’t be punished. The former rector of the seminary, the Rev. Enrico Radice, was similarly absolved.
The case concerned the closed world of the St. Pius X youth seminary, a palazzo inside the Vatican walls just across the street from where Pope Francis lives. The seminary serves as a residence for boys aged 12 to 18, who serve as altar boys at papal Masses in St. Peter’s Basilica.’
https://www.news957.com/2021/10/06/vatican-court-absolves-former-altar-boy-in-sex-abuse-trial/amp/

Like

If anyone could doubt that the church is not about religion, the pope has reformed the chapter of St Peter’s and REDUCED the number of masses.
‘The reform of the Chapter of St. Peter’s Basilica has just been approved by Pope Francis: management powers are almost non-existent and there will be a drastic reduction in masses. The hour of lean times has sounded for one of the most venerable institutions of the Vatican.’
https://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/page-turns-chapter-st-peter%E2%80%99s-basilica-68489
This one seems to have been avoided by the news services in good repute with the church. I wonder why.

Like

1.00
The FSSPX should not be using RCC property as they do not believe in it so why use Our Sacred Spaces they should build their own.
The FSSPX is run by a Priest Davide Pagliarani but they will likely appoint him a Bishop in their club however that will be their biggest mistake as Archbishop Roche will be NO soft mark this time.
There is only ONE Leader in the Catholic Church and his name is Pope Francis.

Like

LOL is there no chancery you don’t claim to have access to?
What’s happening in the Salvation Army?

Like

Oul Gossip Alert@5:12pm

You really are obsessed by the FSSPX and don’t have a clue about it’s constitution. You’re forever rambling on about oul cockroach who will be SQUASHED to a pulp when his time comes. And as for your hero OUL FANNY he’ll lead you all the way to perdition which you so rightly deserve. Bye Bye😂

Like

5.12
Jim S., please go back to school. You and that illiterate “auld gossip alert” Bella are two peas in a pod.

Like

Niall Stokes in the current Hot Press. Forensically brilliant ( as usual) on the matter of the Church Leaders and their “ Prayer Service .”

Like

1.47: Why should we be bothered about the atheism of Niall Stokes? The Prayer Service was unfortunately politicised by our Presidents’ refusal to attend. His was a misguided decision which led to very divisive arguments and has set back the work of reconciliation. Niall Stokes is hatefully anti church. Billeen…only that Michael D refused to budge on his obstinancy, we’d have no divisiveness around the Prayer Service. What would Stokes know about Prayer Services???

Like

5.01pm
Michael Paul Gallagher in Help My Unbelief, from memory I think the first chapter is entitled; Saying Mass as an Atheist. Obviously not your experience ?
An atheist is sometimes more informed on the tenets of faith than many a believer.

Like

The church’s money is at stake and so the Pope is determined to take hardline action.
Yet there are innumerable children and vulnerable adults abused by the church and all Francis can do is issue mealy mouthed apologies while always protecting the abusers.
There is a special place in hell for Francis and his cohorts.

Like

6.31: William: Michael D in a fit of pique expressed his decision not to attend the prayer service and seemed totally disingenuous in the reasons he gave. He simply wasn’t interested and his ranting while in Paris seemed way OTT. Since those long winded utterances about being addressed wrongly, not by the Bishops, as was the impression he gave (which later he clarified) but by the DUP, Michael D’s reaction caused unnecessary divisive debate. One doesn’t need to be a historian to appreciate the sensitivities on all sides but I believe the prayer service was genuinely well intended until Michileen became odly and angrily irate. Then all hell broke loose. The president in his previous little world should apologise for his idiocy. As for Sinn Fein: need we be surprised?

Like

7.43

For starters on the many erroneous points you make , he was not in the City of Light, he was in Rome…..being congratulated by your leader on how wise he is…..

Like

…..City of Lights……I know you don’t like dits…..dots…..but I do…Lol

Like

5.12
Jim S., please go back to school. You and that illiterate “auld gossip alert” Bella are two peas in a pod.

Like

My favorite bible passage is the one where Jesus says ‘Love one another but not if they’re the Latin mass brigade’. 🤣

Like

Oul Gossp Alert@4:22pm

Funny that, my favorite passage is the one that says ‘love one an other but not if they’re in The Polyester brigade and especially if they’re connected to Jim S etc,et, etc!🤣🤣🤣

Like

2.00pm: More nonsense of biased and prejudiced commentary. Did not Jesus say to ALL his followers, not just the disciples – ” when I was hungry, naked, in prison, sick or homeless…did you visit me or not?..” The question in your mind is of course only for Pope Francis!! Isn’t it, follower of Christ? Will you be on the right or the left hand side of God? “..Get behind me Satan..”

Like

Oul Gossip Alert @5:14pm
At it again answering your own posts, you don’t know anything about Good Works, and there’s no way God will bless you!

Like

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/10/06/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pope-mitchell-garabedian-bts-ctw-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

Attorney: The Pope’s comments today are ‘just words’
CNN’s Becky Anderson speaks with attorney Mitchell Garabedian, who has represented thousands of sexual abuse victims, about a landmark report stating that members of the Catholic clergy in France sexually abused an estimated 216,000 minors over the past seven

Like

Terrible the way social services keep buying multi billion dollar properties internationally using shell companies. 🤣

Like

https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2021/10/07/the-vatican-the-show-must-go-on/
“The main mission of the Holy See is to help bring the message of the Gospel to the ends of the earth,” a Vatican official recently claimed. But they dedicate far more time and resources to presenting a false façade of moral integrity to the world.
https://opentabernacle.wordpress.com/2018/01/19/scandals-swirl-around-pope-francis-sex-abuse-child-porn-cocaine-money-laundering-and-corruption/
Scandals Swirl Around Pope Francis: Sex Abuse, Child Porn, Cocaine and Corruption
In just the latter half of 2017, over a dozen scandals – with hints of more to come – drew close to the pope but were mostly ignored by the U.S. media.

Like

Yet another RC minister accusedhttps://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article254766852.html

Like

You don’t seem to know how to do links. You’ll need to borrow “The Internet for Dummies” when the mobile library next calls.

Like

There’s a useful guide herehttps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/create-or-edit-a-hyperlink-5d8c0804-f998-4143-86b1-1199735e07bf

Like

Has the Irish Ambassador to the United Kingdom ever attended anything in the North or Northern Ireland ? Why ? President Higgins decision was logical, culturally attuned. noble and most of all prudent. The prattle about what the entity is has been obfuscated by the church leaders or their handlers.

Like

Going to church is personal and voluntary and not to make a statement, and not to publicly represent others or use our position of authority and standing to imply anything. The people of the south (as of everywhere else) are well able to wish well to whoever it is about, very effectively, in whatever ways they wish.

Like

It’s far from over in the UShttps://wpta21.com/2021/10/06/whitley-county-prosecutor-will-decide-soon-on-case-of-area-priest-facing-allegations-of-sexual-abuse/

Like

And there’s morehttps://www.ncregister.com/news/the-formation-of-a-new-priest-who-abused-minors-how-did-he-slip-past-seminary-screening-policies

Like

+Router was in the Gam in Roma being fitted out for Down & Connor. Noel isn’t well and putting his garden correct before he leaves i hear.

Like

9:36
The Kingdom of God can be advanced from many locations. More important than the where is the how.

Like

Bishop Pat
Magdalene Laundries are back in the news in Northern Ireland. Did you have any dealings with them in your younger days?

Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s