Residents, clerical and lay in the Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle, are concerned that a convicted paedophile
Father Timothy Gardner.
A perverted priest has avoided jail despite being caught with thousands of child porn images on his computer.
Father Timothy Gardner, of Potters Court, off Rosebery Road in Sutton, admitted 10 counts of making indecent images and one count of possession of prohibited images at Southwark Crown Court.
The 42-year-old, who taught at Maria Fidelis Convent School in Camden until 2012 .was described as a “senior figure” in Catholic education by Camden Council.
He was sentenced to eight months in jail but the sentence was suspended for two years at Southwark Crown Court
BISHOP AS TRAVELLER AND COOK
WHO IS THE BISHOP CALLING “USELESS PEOPLE” DURING MASS AT OFFERTORY PROCESSION?
WHAT ARE THE PURPLE RIBBONS AT HIS NECK?
PAT SAYS
I don’t know much about little BOBBY BYRNE.
But the fact that he is from the Oratorian stable is enough to scare me.
He seems to me to be a posh, rotund Francophile?
Is the Father Gardener connect true?
If it is, it’s worrying.
Who was BOBBY BYRNE calling “USELESS PEOPLE” in the video?
The laity?
THE PARISH MISSION, RUTHERGLEN, GLASGOW.
Tune into the Faith of our Fathers Parish Mission online from St Columbkilles parish in Rutherglen the diocese of Motherwell.
The wee PP, is hosting two of his ex pals from the Norbertines from Chelmsford.
They don’t know Vatican 2 has even happened.
MEET THE MISSIONERS
“It’s goodnight from him and goodnight from her”.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
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Unbelievably, Fr Tim Gardner replaced Fr Joseph Quigley.
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Bishop Billy BUNTER is a vicious old queen. Pursing her lips and calling people ‘useless’ is not very episcopal.
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Bp Byrne is certainly not vicious in my experience. I have known him for many years and have always found him to be amiable, caring and orthodox.
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@6.44am Says the vicious old queen himself.
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Honestly, you couldn’t make it up. I know it is some years ago that this guy Gardner took over from Quigley. It looks like Gardener is still being held within an inner circle. Probably because he’s posh and Oxford. Byrne will like that. They are mates. He won’t be happy that this connection is known about and being talked about.
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You say you know little about Bishop Byrne but what you do know scares you because of his Oratorian past.. It could be a lot worse, Thanks be to God he has no connection with the ‘Larne Oratory’ that would indeed be very scary.
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Not very rigorous at all it would appear.
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As of 9.25 on 6 th December I don’t yet see enough comments about the CBCEW’s schools department, and their attitude to running quangoes generally, which I would have expected those knowledgeable to come up with. In recent days we were mega concerned (rightly) about schools in Ireland. The quangoes are a big drain on dioceses so their girth and other bad qualities have got to be queried.
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Which of the Holy Fathers 8 beatitudes covers this situation ??
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So, it looks like some E&W Diocese are preparing to make big cuts. Where I am in the south of England they are talking 30% across the board. Well, they say across the board, but naturally, it will be the low hanging fruit that they will cull first – especially the lay people that they have brought in over the last few decades to do the jobs that priests used to do, but who will be the ones with most to lose unprotected as they are by the clerical brotherhood umbrella. Also, I bet the you the retired and the sick will be told to live on less, and as for the MIA and C/0 that are supported I expect that they will just be cut loose. This is set agains a couple of things that indicate to me that the RC Church in E&W is actually very wealthy. Just look at their various accounts from the Charity Commissioners to see how much they have in investments, land, buildings etc. The argument is that these should not be used to cover shortfalls, but perhaps this latest financial difficulty is one of those episodes that should be covered, rather than throwing the weakest and most convenient under the wheel in order to balance the books. It all begs the question about whether people will come back to church and start to put their money on the plate. I suspect not. So, there is going to be an ongoing problem, but using what they have all saved up in intelligent and creative ways could well cover any shortfall. Also, the much talked about and vaunted Gubay Trust money, which I’ve seen clergy licking their whiskers in contentment at the thought of, could be made available for some help ? There are lots of ways to manage these situations, but just going for the soft underbelly of those who work for the charity for far less than the market rate anyhow is not very edifying. Of course, Their Lordships and the clergy will be fine. There are all sorts of grey economies in those episcopal houses and presbyteries. A 30 % cut there can easily be covered for them by creative book-keeping, and that is what will happen. Also, keep an eye on some vanity building projects that will no doubt still find funding.
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About time we had cuts. An obscure, mostly rural diocese – Clifton – has an entire office block full of penpushers. The number in the pews keeps on falling, while the bureaucracy grows.
Take Maynooth, for example, where the desk priests of the episcopal conference secretariat and their lay colleagues have taken over all the old senior infirmary and big chunks of New House and Long Corridor. Seminarian bedrooms have been turned into offices. Is that progress?
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E&W dioceses are targeting the elderly and retired clergy just as we speak, cutting their pensions. Elsie started it. He brought in that American lot to fundraise. Badgered people to give more direct debit monthly, hard sell trump style. Very few clown bishops adopted it but few to be fair as the other bishops had intelligence. TheAmerican lot have never been mentioned since. Disaster.
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I think it’s very sad to target the elderly and ill priests.
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I know Bishop Byrne – inveterate gossip, snobby (not sure why, he’s a Manc) and Machiavellian to his bones.
Loves his luxuries and comfort and God help you if you get between him and his afternoon nap – very religious about this so he is, as if too much energy expenditure brings on a slumber.
A good delegator which means he always has someone to blame if a project he is heading up (I wouldn’t put him in charge of a male brothel) goes tits or cock up.
Doesn’t seem remotely interested in the fairer sex but middle/upper class Oxbridge educated clerics seem to float his boat.
Most striking things about him: Small and Rotund Quennie Gossip – wouldn’t have the courage to stab you in front but v adept at stabbing you in the back. Years of experience I reckon.
His elevation to the purple tied up with ability to sort out his Queenie and Histrionic brothers at the Oratory and probably good at keeping scandal on the down low.
The suicide of his cathedral dean who was being investigated for child abuse and Gardiner living with him suggests that there isn’t so much Murder at the Cathedral but I’d say a fair degree of trouble at Mill.
Oh and has an irritating tendency to appear terribly pleased with himself – cat and cream so to speak.
Has never learnt the wisdom of the adage: he who is a viscous gossip gets gossiped about – what goes around comes around.
Wouldn’t set foot in his diocese if you paid me – and I really like him!!
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@ 11:01pm
You really like him? I don’t think so. You sound extremely Machiavellian yourself with that diatribe you’ve just spouted. I’m sure you are most of the names you’ve called the poor sod namely an inveterate Queenie gossip and jealous of his lifestyle.😏
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@11.01am Queenie gossip you say! That’s a bit rich coming from you. What did the bishop do to you?
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@6.44am and 11.01am. Nasty person alert!! The type this blog likes to attract. Inciting hate and revenge is the order of the day for this blog. He will hit the delete button now when reading this because he hates being challenged.
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11.01am
Irony is not dead. A comment by an unmanly queen condemning somone for allegedly being an unmanly queen. Lol.
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Yes the American style hard sell has died a death. Only a few dioceses adopted it in E&W. It went down like a pile of xxxx and yes, Vincent started it. Swept under the carpet quietly now. Basically you get some eejits in the parish to visit homes and sweet talk them. They set up direct debits with the wealthier class like selling double glazing. It’s abandoned now because it was a sham. Uncomfortable topic now, best forgotten in the E&W lot. If you are a bishop reading this, do not let that American leeches in to your diocese to fundraise. Oh sorry, I forget to mention their cut of the profits. Abandoned idea, I wonder why?
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It was a big thing in Northampton diocese.
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Father Timothy Gardner may have avoided prison but the mug shot in a police cell makes up for that.
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10.58pm
Yes wonder how far above £100k is the Westminster Treasurer on and Elsies Press Sec Alec de Forge (my own forrow) – they probably know too much but cruel redundancy is the Catholic way.
Funny because Brum appointed a shed load of lay staff – like money was no object – but Bishop Byrne went around bitching about it saying they’d all be made redundant in 5 years and he was saying this before COVID!!
Thing is they pay the Big Smells Big Cash and the minions get crumbs in comparison and will get treated like shite by highly paid HR fascists.
Not v pretty look away now.
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Bishops are shitting themselves that people aren’t retuning to Sunday Mass obligation – less for damage to their eternal souls and more because of damage to their pockets.
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Bishop Pat, You don’t say whether or not Gardner is living at the Bishop’s house. If he is it could be a good or bad move. The police have registered his address as a safe place. The conditions under which he lives will be monitored. Maybe the Bishop is kind enough to support somebody with Gardner’s past? I don’t think I would do that job.
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That clip of the two guys giving the parish mission is hilarious. It’s like something straight (!!!!!!) out of panto…….”oh no it isn’t!!!!!!!!”
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I’d like Fr Twanky to hear my confession.
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Widow Twankey and Old Mother Riley 👜 👋 👵
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The two rotund fat queen’s are gas Pat.
As Bernard Manning would say,”it’s goodnight from him and f*** o** from her.
Why are they wearing the white outfits Pat? Thought that was reserved for the bishop of Rome?
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The Norbertines wear white.
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I have seen them wearing white birettas also. Talk about the fat widow twanky who could also pass for Chris Biggins.
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Or Dame Edna.
https://cache.sharesome.com/file/sharesome/uploads/user-images/u936899/z5nncn-kcfurzt3dw-o.jpg
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@12:28pm
Patsy, it’s well seen this bitchy queen has never seen a parish Mission or ever heard of The Norbertines.
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You mean the disgusting perverts who sheltered Smyth and others globally?
This paedo outfit still around?😤🤢🤮
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5:01 There isn’t a diocese or religious order globally that didn’t shelter and encourage abusers. Don’t single out the Norbertines, they’re all disgusting.
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@6:02pm, the Nobertines essentially did nothing after the Brendan Smyth horrors. Nominally they introduced some 2010/16 norms, but didn’t seem to care. Perhaps they didn’t care as they were essentially leaving Ireland, but it looks very poor. The Nobertines have been one of the worst in their reaction to child abuse and there’s fearsome competition for that ignoble prize. Their poorly maintained Irish archive is now in Belgium, so good luck to any victim.
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Chief Executive Officers in dioceses these days can expect north of £100,000 for starters. It’s not what they would get in the non-Church sector, but it’s decent enough. I find it interesting that clergy tend to downplay / underestimate their real remuneration. They will tell you about their paltry stipend, but neglect everything that is found and for which they don’t have to pay, and which in the real world people have to provide for themselves. I reckon a priest’s real life income is probably north of £40,000 per annum, and in some nicer places considerably more. There are lots of pots they can dip in to to supplement their headline income. True ?
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Totally true, but they’ll all start ranting that you’re a liar.
Ironically the other professions which get their income in the same way as clergy are jobs like waiting or lap dancing – the salary as such is terrible and it’s all about the tips!
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Gardner had the usual huge collection of child porn pictures. So obviously he downloaded them from somewhere.
Is it usual for a Dominican to have a personal mobile? And is this so they can have Grindr and surf porn?
Otherwise he would have had to download the pictures on the priory WiFi and presumably also had a mobile from the education people.
You would think the education mobile and priory network would have adult sites barred – just as they are on work phones and laptops in the real world.
The mind boggles.
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Oo-er! … She looks the spitting image of the Billy Bunter character. That’s hilarious lol 😂
.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bunter#/media/File%3ABilly_Bunter_Chapman_Portrait.jpg
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Pat have you seen Billy Bunter’s new Priest? It seems all the new young priests just want to dress up.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rcdiocesehn/albums/72157719484405138/
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Gosh the new priest likes his pies and dressing up. Oscott were out to support their new man. All the younger priests are in lace from the tits down. Oscott is turning out some queer ones.
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The new priest looks like a younger version of our Glasgow Billy Bunter, Msgr Hughie Bradley, Diocesan Administrator.
Both it would seem fond of a meat pie or two, or three, or four!
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I wonder is this the slimmed down version of Wilkinson ? A bit like the fat bride that does some slimming in order to get in to the wedding dress. But, it never really works. Shades of Monty here, who had to wait for ordination while he underwent an enforced diet imposed by + Vin. The Oscott sems were out in force, loving it. There are problems at Oscott. My intelligence tells me that + Longley and Rector Dolman were heads together these last few days. No doubt discussing what is being strongly hinted at on this blog. Perhaps they only need to look at the pictures of Wilcko’s ordination and they might pick up some clues !
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Perhaps not a specialist in fasting, Maybe has a sausage roll review blog. Some people have difficulties with their system and cannot shed weight easily, but for most it’s putting down the fork.
I like the church and its interior interprets V2 well. Ireland saw the likes of Eamon Casey throwing every bit of nice marble into the skip, or perhaps he repurposed it for his sauna.
I think no one should host Nobertines unless some sort of additional vetting is done. While the individual priests are likely good men, the Order is not.
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Peter Ross is a seminarian of Liverpool Archdiocese. I wonder what he’s doing in Hexam and Newcastle Diocese?
Out of sight out of mind?
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Roman Bishops shield, protect and keep paedophile clergy housed in presbyteries all the time anyhow.
Robert Byrne’s no exception here.
That’s what Roman Bishops do “best”.
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Sweet Divine! There’s more lace in those pictures than Marie Antoinette’s entire knicker collection at Versailles. What is wrong with these men – is it a fetish of some kind?
They do not inhabit the real world. Sitting around in frilly lace and birettas, it’s a strange sub-culture that makes Catholicism look ridiculous.
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@5:33am
You’re being a bit simple Simon, there ‘s nothing more ridiculous than The Polyester Brigade prancing about in their unembellished polyester sheets. Imposing their ‘wonderful’ make it up as you go along ‘liturgy’ on the poor laity.
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I’ve long thought the English Catholic Church a weird lot, very caught up in the bells, smells and frillies of liturgy. The younger men all appear light-of-foot, -to put it delicately – and have found a way to appear in semi-drag without raising suspicions. They fend off any smell of the sheep with the latest cologne from Christian Dior or Givenchy and their idea of a hard days work is saying two masses. As Simon at 5:33 said, they make us look like fools.
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Oh do be careful dearie, a wallop from a thurible in a back alley can do an awful lot of damage! They’ve even been known to use a brick in the handbag!
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…Or a whack with a dildo ….
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+ Billy Bunter Byrne is lazy. He definitely does not like hard work. He was renowned during his time in Brum as auxiliary for doing very little. Could talk a good talk, but then nothing ever came of it. God knows how anybody thought that he should be given charge of his own diocese. Except for making some rearrangements to make his life more convivial up north, he won’t be doing very much. Thank God for live streaming from the Royal Opera House !
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You clearly have a vandetta. Your repetitive narritive gives you away. Move on with your life. Do some good.
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@1:10pm
Don’t you mean Vendetta try spellcheck. Your repetitive mistakes give you away back to Primary one for you.
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These ordination pictures portray a culture that is triumphalist, anachronistic and plain creepy. All those men dressed up in brocade, lace and birettas. The lower grade clergy, however, look as though they are wearing polyester jobs. No wonder they are all eager to climb the ladder and be made, these days at least, an achievable canon and get a bit of colour and bling. Honestly, I look at these photographs and I just see something that is so out of touch, irrelevant and rapidly on its way out.
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9.25
As you don’t go to Mass you won’t be troubled by such sights unless you seek them out on Pat’s blog. Do you reach for the smelling salts when you see Orthodox or High Anglican vestments?
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The ordinand is an Anglican convert.
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Gosh what a tragic sight for sore eyes. What on Earth has the Church turned into Pat?
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It’s the future. Get used to it. The Folk Masses and polyester didn’t work.
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I love folk Masses.
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Judging by the numbers present, the lacey frocks, brocade and rampant queering of the priesthood isn’t working either!
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I’m with 9.54 it’s the future.
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11.09 – not heard of covid restrictions? How many will be at your funeral? Not many, with that sour approach to things.
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Gosh, I pity the poor faldstool, which appears to be creaking under the new priest’s weight. I don’t know what is happening at Oscott to allow their students and newly ordained to prance around like extras from a Liberace concert. And what’s the oily rag for mum nonsense? I thought that was abolished?
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It’s a remembrance of those holy anointed hands, which will undoubtedly end up covered in lube at a homosexual sauna.
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Surlius was on Newstalk this morning he did some spluttering when Kenny asked him about the 2016 summer of love.
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9.55am: Folk Masses: cheap entertainment with yoedlers….Prefer Bach, Vivaldi, Liszt, Schubert, Choral music any day to this s**t.
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Why can’t we have both?
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We don’t have both, in most parishes. That’s the problem and of course it contradicts the (unread) wishes of Vatican II.
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While there is no doubt that the composers you list wrote beautiful ‘sacred’ music, most of it was never intended for a liturgical setting.
Those compositions that were intend for a liturgical setting require musical talent that is often beyond the ability of most churches.
Simple ‘folk’ music is a great way of allowing smaller congregations to participate in singing and thereby praying twice, as the saying goes.
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@ 9:55am
That doesn’t surprise me Patsy, I detest them!!!
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I think they are appealing to the emotions of some people and help people believe and pray.
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@ 11:33am
The only emotions they give me is loathing and detestation, so we will have to differ yet again.🙄
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Ok. But others feel differently.
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Pope Francis, in fairness to him is saying yo Cyprus and Greece – wake up and smell Vat II. The greatest scandal in the Church at present is thsy Vat II was never fully implemented.
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11.46
I bet you’ve never read VII. What parts have not been implemented, exactly, with reference to Council documents?
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I bet you have never read them yourself. You don’t like it. It’s called reverse pyscho – look iit up
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@ 11:46am
We’ve had enough of the nasty smell of Vat. II, the promise of a “New Springtime” for the Church didn’t happen. It caused an exodus of Priests and Religious and the mess we have today
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12.06
That may be your personal view. You are entitled to it.
However, it’s not ghe view of Pope Francis, or of the church. The Pope left all in no doubt that the Second Vatican Council is the Church’s magisterium.
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@11.46 I couldn’t agree more.
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The people that suppressed what was good about Council are saying it was our fault. Beyond that, it is incomprehensible. On both counts, it’s therefore not magisterium. Then again, neither Council nor popes nor “Church” reformed prying into boys’ private lives which is still “magisterium” which Holy Mother itself is bringing into disrepute.
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11.39: Folk Masses are utterly yuk…hate and loathe them. They’re ok of you’re really stuck. No comparison to a good traditional choir or suitable sacred classical music which can be so sublime..
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@ 12:22pm
Yes it’s rather strange that his humbleness who says that traditionalists are rigid. Doesn’t seem to recognize the irony the he is the most rigid dictatorial pope ever.
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Get into the garden Father @12.24pm rather than being stuck in some old foggy museum.
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12.48
Really? Moreso than Innocent III? Or Boniface VIII? Or do you mean the most dictatorial since 2013?
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Returning to the subject of the nonce, isn’t it better that their wherabouts are known and that, in theory anyway, Bishop Byrne can keep an eye on him? The neighbours and schools in the vicinity should be informed though.
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It’s a dichotomy. If the priest has a history and is still a priest, then what best to do ? There is a good argument for saying he should be surveilled / kept an eye on / be contained. Just casting him out could be seen as careless and reckless. If he still has some connection to the Church, then the Church has a vicarious responsibility of some sort, surely ? Of course, the question is why is he still a priest, if he is, after a conviction for such offences ? If he’s not a priest then he should be left to his own devices and come under the oversight of the police / social services etc. Anybody know all the details – like is he still a priest ?
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Apparently, at one time there used to be “probation covenants” agreed with probation which are a heavy burden on any volunteers who might volunteer.
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You sound like a nonce yourself @11.55am. In prison the nonces call each other nonces
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@12.23 pm Oscotian by any chance? did your mate The Reverend Father Matthew Jolley tell you that?
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12:23 It’s self hatred. Exactly the same way you see the gay clergy calling each other gay.
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I totally agree. The Bishop and the church are taking their responsibilities seriously. He has been punished and it should rest there. This post is vindictive and a witch hunt. It is about getting at every Bishop and priest. Pots and kettles spring to mind. Boulders on shoulders.
It is better to have such individuals under supervision than dumped in strange areas where the people do not know the history.
Such a Christian, forgiving post. NOT!!!
This blog is certainly creating enemies. Personal attacks on individuals, (some who have no criminal convictions) street preachers and the stirring up of the troubles (we should be moving forward to peace and reconciliation)
Live and let live
Garngad Lad
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1.05: At this stage of existence, folk masses are in the museum genre….never changing, same old, same old crap…and when they’re stuck, they rely on American Evangelist rhymes!! You need a little cultural and musical refinement. Go listen to Vivaldi, Handel, Bach, Mozart.. Sublime and transcendent. Try them. You won’t regret it. Maybe you are a philistine!!
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Whippoorwills (what are those?) and colours of day, Where have all the flowers gone. We shall overcome, Jesus had real answers then. Immortal invisible was a secular county council one.
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@12.52pm Sorry to disappoint you. Just stating the obvious.
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Did KOB move to diocese of Newcastle after he had resigned?
They bought a house for him I think somewhere in diocese of Newcastle. He was buried beside his parents grave.
What I didn’t know that he was born in NI.
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All of what you say is true. What crime did he commit? It seems a lot of people are being crucified on this blog. A lot of sour grapes.
Garngad Lad
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Garngad lad at 1.35pm
Are you referring to my post 👆
I just said KOB resigned. That’s it, no mention of crime. He had paid the price which was fair enough.
No comment on sour grapes or crucified cos pat allowed it to fester it and encouraged it as well. The onus is on him alone.
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Some priests entered in good faith and not to be “asked” to go “tickly under there” with some VIP, who knows similar wouldbe VIPs. Therefore some so called “canonical offences” are objectively grave, paradoxical though that may seem to unimaginative readers. In the event of action being taken the public don’t get to hear much anyway. What I find fascinating is why the rural dean of Newcastle wasn’t willing to lead Keith’s do.
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The best way to show the pantomime dames that you don’t want this carry on is to deprive them of the oxygen of admiration they thrive on. Withhold funds and go to mass elsewhere or watch it on the telly.
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I think the ribbons may relate to a set of Pontifical vestments.
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I see Cordileone of SF isn’t vaccinated. He’ll probably go the way of Old Mother Burke and be thanking the Virgin Mary for his recovery. What a twat ! Doesn’t he realise that he’s a danger to other people by not being vaccinated ? Such selfish irresponsibility. And, he sets himself up as the moral arbiter of all things to do with other people’s lives and how they live them. https://www.ncronline.org/news/coronavirus/archbishop-cordileone-reveals-hes-not-vaccinated-covid-19-drawing-sharp-criticism
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2:43,
The bishop of Rome has urged people to get vaccinated and has expressed exasperation with anti-vaccine skeptics. The article is about a twat of a person from San Francisco regardless of his status.
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2.43
Translated to SF within weeks of Viganò’s arrival in US. What else could you expect!
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@ 6;08pm
Well not exactly what you’d expect in America but a great grace for San Fransico to have a Catholic Bishop for once. When you see the disgraceful shower in the rest of the American Hierarchy not to mention the disgraced Msgr. Burrill secretary of their Bishops Conference we can only say Deo Gratias
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6.56
Bela Lugosi has posted far too much here today. Barely literate and recommending Mozart, Schubert and Liszt. What he makes of their Latin compositions when he can barely write basic English is mind boggling.
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Telling the truth | Jordan Peterson
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https://youtu.be/eeLZ8SC0AhY
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3.03: Great that you make a reference to Jordan Petersen. He’s a very good author, speaker and debater. He has a fantastic mind. Commenters should read his books or watch his videos. Excellent. They will be challenged about their prejudices, biases, agendas and ideologies. I recommend him.
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@ 6:21pm
I certainly would not recommend anyone to listen to that atheist.
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On the subject of an atheist, the atheists in Brussels have lost the plot altogether. A controversial European Union dossier detailing internal communication guidelines was accused of trying to “cancel Christmas” by the Vatican and European conservatives. The ‘Union of Equality’ recommended EU officials use the phrase “holiday period,” instead of “Christmas period” in a bid to “avoid discrimination and promote inclusivity”. However, furious pushback from Vatican officials and conservative politicians forced the EU into a humiliating U-turn.
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Oul Gossip Alert @ 9:27pm
Dracula’s daughter has arisen spouting her usual personnel insults, I have never mentioned Mozart Liszt or Schubert today that was another poster who I fully agree with. Patsy can confirm this, you have been asked often on this blog ‘Is English your first language?’ your spelling and grammar is appalling. In fact when you posted that you spoke four languages Patsy asked you was one of them Gibberish? Still PSML🤣🤣🤣
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Is Gay Byrne at Toryglen in Glasgow is very musical. True or false?
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Your post makes no sense at all. The grammar is awful. Would you like to explain better?
Garngad Lad
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certainly likes to tinkle ….
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Any news re Glastonbury. I understand they cannot stay and have an emoji in their newsletter with a big tear!
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Ah, the two grand Dames will be homeless and are yet to find their forever home together. As it was a diocesan foundation, will it cease if they leave the diocese?
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6.32 pm
Do you mean the Benedictine Community they set up?
They can’t be homeless they will have to go somewhere in the Diocese.
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Rejoice! Two priestless parishes. Well done, Dermot!
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8.02 pm. Not priestless. A young charismatic indian priest has been appointed to replace them.
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They had four parishes. The charismatic/incomprehensible priest is looking after two.
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Many would deem the pious platitudes of the two dames to be incomprehensible.
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Bishop Buckley,
Thank you very much for the hard work you do to expose the crime, double standards and dysfunction at the heart of the church.
And thank you for allowing the clergy to expose their own real attitudes and behaviour here as they are today.
Very revealing indeed, their comments are.
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I’d be amazed if any clergy, apart from +Pat, Paul C and an Anglican minister commented today.
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8:14
I see you are fluent in church speak.
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8.25 pm
Who is going to Glastonbury and the other parish then?
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Pat more dressing up from Oscott. This is the new priest for the diocese of Lancaster.
https://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/bishop-paul-swarbricks-homily-on-ordination-of-rev-stuart-chapple/
See this video also Pat apparently priests don’t have time to play golf! See at 2:10
https://www.castleriggmanor.co.uk/manor-blog/2020/5/25/vocation-stuart-chappell
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Bloody Hell, Oscott needs to hire a PT instructor and get those flabby lads into shape. Are they eating deep fat fried Mars bars?
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Let’s see you, Miss World.
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I was a 30 inch waste at their age – now 36. They must be over 44 inches. SCANDALOUS.
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So you’ve gone from 30 to 36? Get back down to 30 and then you can talk.
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Fr Dolman the new Rector doesn’t have a STL which is a requirement for a seminary – unless he’s doing one or they fast track it and he gets it on the down low and a shoe in etc.
Oakley, McKinny, not so much Crisp but McDonald and Kelly and many former Rectors right clever clogs and don’t they know it – maybe Dolman is a pastoral genius parachuted in to sort the gay cartel and mafia who run amok.
I reckon out of his depth – nice fella no bite – the gays in village Oscott will be running rings around him.
Nursey is as gay as the day is long – as chaste as the Virgin Mary I’m sure but a soft spot for his private sec whose been with him for years and years – what’s that all about – give the man a parish and see if he cuts the mustard.
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Monsignor Mark Crisp did not have an STL. He left Rome with a PhB and STB.
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Dolman is weak, and was formed in the same environment. It needed an outsider to reform the place. Mark Harrold former vice at the VEC would have been a good appointment.
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Pat, today you’ve allowed repeat commenters express very unkind, nasty, mean spirited and ugly things about particular priests, especially newly ordained priests. Do you honestly think it’s acceptable to allow and print these pejorative and very ugly comments? I would love to know your answer to this question – truthfully. Place yourself back to your ordination day and the weeks following on from that: You were a reticent, shy and sensitive person then. Imagine if you were subjected to the nasty, fat shaming, denigrating and sneering comments as have been printed today? Would you still be here? As you know many youngish people have taken their lives because of similar trolling commentary or have grown into despair and depression. This type of commentary is a horrendous bullying. I know that the ugly anonymous trolls who make these comnents woukd not dare to express them to these individuals face to face in the company of other people. They would face the charge of reckless behaviour, hatred, bias and needless prejudice. I thought out of your own harrowing experiences of your life that you might have a more intelligent insight and a more humane awareness about the horrible effects of this trolling. Certain narratives which deliberately denigrate others are morally reprehensible and unacceptable. Do you have any code of ethics or boundaries you won’t cross?
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The most sensible and respectable comment ever on this blog. Mirrors spring to mind
Well said and thanks.
Garngad Lad
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Fair comment.
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8.24: Miss Universe at 8.10 probably has a face like his a**e and hides behind anonymity. Generally they are bug slobby, ugly cowards, rejects perhaps. You can be certain that he, the big brave queen at 8.10 is a disgusting pervert.
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Ah, another one found suitable in seminary, just like Oliver O’Grady.
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Being morbidly obese will help them remain celibate as no one, apart from a fetishist, would go there.
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8.31pm
Why so offended? Why so self-righteous and your narrative whiffs of holier than thou and protectionism of the clerical caste.
Get with the choir hun:catch up, clerical child abuse and scandal after scandal has changed public perception of the RC priesthood for ever – everyone is fair game in the world where freedom of speech and freedom of expression run unhindered by the tepid scruples you express.
Young clergy are ripe for lampoon and mickey take – they bring it on themselves- bloated, fat, entitled, spoilt and entitled – they have been grist for the milk of satire for years – only difference is now they and you (cleric) don’t like it, so you squeal and complain and blame Bishop Pat, when the truth is you have no one to blame but yourself.
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9.21: You deliberately misread my comment at 8.31: I abhor sexual abuse by any person, including clerics. I would never attempt to condone such behaviour. I was talking abiut the sneering, personalised and ignorant comments which are unnecessary. You are so wrong in understanding the essence of intelligent commentary. I have no difficulty with legitimate criticism but the type of nastyism and hate filled rhetoric you support is morally reprehensible. Your ilk are sick.
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You’re not a nice person, 9.21pm.
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9.49: You are being too kind to 9.21: he/she is a class act hater. Practitioner of nastyism. Horrible people.
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Oh diddums – go and have another G&T and a whole tube of Pringles and flick through the latest Gamarelli brochure. The diet can’t start tomorrow.
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The faithful are fed up with this clerical circus. It’s unmanly to flounce around in lace. They need physical activity on the playing field. As for 8.31 pm, they ignore the problem as do their formations, which is dangerous for mental health. Everyone knows that a healthy mind in a healthy body is required. I am sorry but they are positively unhealthy. Oscott has large playing fields and a gym. There really is no excuse.
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9.24 pm
Instead of going on a retreat for a few days, they should be packed off to Boot Camp!
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“physical activity on the playing field” isn’t that where it started (nudge)
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9.38pn, 9.49pm, 10.08pm
Flattered so I am – to think you took the time and effort to insult me – moi!!
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Oscott turned out Jolley, overweight and dressed up in lace. By the way, he must now be out of prison. He was sentenced to 40 months in October 2019. Should he have been released after serving half his sentence?
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9.38pm
You can’t help yourself can you?
Your holier than thou, pretentious and self-righteous posturing saps the life out of, well, life.
The very stone you throw, the very finger you point, comes right back at ya.
If you hated and despised the very things you condemn you wouldn’t keep coming back to the blog.
But you can’t help yourself can you?
I sense the frisson when you condemn it gives you a thrill doesn’t it – ah God love ya – clergy my little clergy friend are fair game and fair play I say.
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There’s an adage “Never go back” and that applies strongly to putting this blog item back up, given that it’s attracted some of the most unpleasant people ever to comment on the blog, and that’s saying something. Maybe everyone should just say their night prayers and go to sleep. Tomorrow’s a new day.
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9.38pm
You can’t help yourself can you?
Your holier than thou, pretentious and self-righteous posturing saps the life out of, well, life.
The very stones you throw, the very finger you point, comes right back at ya.
If you hated and despised the very things you condemn you wouldn’t keep coming back to the blog.
But you can’t help yourself can you?
I sense the frisson when you condemn it gives you a thrill doesn’t it – ah God love ya – clergy, my little clergy friend are fair game at long last and fair play I say.
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Fatscott needs to send its camp fatties to fat camp for intense physical exercise. Bishop Billy Bunter should lead by example.
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Pat after seeing the evidence from the ordination photos, one can see Oscott is really out of reality to the modern day priesthood. That video of Stuart Chapel talking about his vocation was a real insight these are not men but young boys who clearly have not discover themselves. He is very effeminate and is most likely a virgin who has no life experience and is clearly into dressing up. When he said he would have to give up golf to become a priest what world is he living on? All this just proves Oscott’s formation to the priesthood is a joke.
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Listen to yourself ‘Mr or Fr if I pronounce then so it is’ – by what criteria do you conclude whether people are unpleasant or not – it’s a blog darling, the posters are anonymous, you know nothing about them therefore you can judge (your a cleric, you judge all day long) and please spare me your patronising infantile gibberish about night prayers and sleep like your Daddy and we’re children.
I disagree the posts today reflect the freedom of speech and expression fitting of an adult blog.
Goodnight and God Bless!!!
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I really hope Father Timothy Gardner will soon be Mr Timothy Gardner (the mark of the sacrament cannot be erased but a line has been irrevocably crossed). Benedict introduced a stable system to get rid of pervs from the priesthood The now somewhat disgraced Cardinal Coccopalmiero (he of the cocaine orgy fame, well his secretary Capozzi altho some allege Cocco was there, which amused him, given his age, and he denied it) used the confusing days of the changeover to lobby for the depraved Don Inzoli. What I hope is that Fr becomes Mr quickly. A bishop should be a father to his priests but is also a father to his parishioners. For too many now priest and paedo go together. Pray, for only a miracle will get us past these horrors. Pervs seem to have pals.
Again I don’t think the vestments have anything wrong with them. Given the visceral response some have, there must be some secret V2 doc which exhorted tie dye and polyester, plus a horde of middle aged women around the altar. The problems are of another sort, a stench of moral decadence. I’m not sure these episcopal grand dames have it in them to clear the stench.
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We’ve heard the Dean of oscott has walked, had a nervy, couldn’t cope there, we used to call her Vera, lovely lass. Rumour is she’s running off with a girl from the north east… surprise to us all, thought she was a poof!
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Not true!! She’s not walked! And the woman bit – don’t make me laugh! She’s as bent as a nine bob note 😀
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