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In light of recent events at Mount Melleray Abbey; emerging events at Worth Abbey, and known events at Silverstream Priory; today, the blog is going to focus on the latter monastic institution.

I take no delight in the oblique reference made to this blog made in the accounts of Silverstream Priory available on the website of the Charities Regulator:

“The Monastery has received some negative media attention, which may have some negative impact on income for the Company. The actual financial effect this attention could have is difficult to quantify. However the Directors are confident that the Company has the capability to continue its activities profitably”.

What was the source of this negative media attention? My little blog — ably assisted by The Pillar and the Irish Independent; but, I got in there first.

However, the accounts have brushed under the carpet the following known realities.

The founding Prior Dom Mark Kirby, OSB has been credibly accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate contact. It is the fact that there are allegations of financial mismanagement/unaccounted funds/and people being paid out the back door, recognised in all jurisdictions as tax fraud.

It is the fact that Kirby has feigned being some kind of “mystic” that receives directions from the Lord in the tabernacle. It is the fact that Kirby then decided to publish a book which was somehow both edited and ecclesiastically vetted by Dr. Peter Kwasniewski (an individual who, judging by his anti-Francis rhetoric, is well on the way to sedevacantism) a book that has endorsements from the usual crackpots: Cardinal Burke and Archbishop Viganò.

I have learned that as a priest and instructor in the United States Dom Kirby absolutely HATED the Latin Mass. He was vehemently opposed to the TLM. It was only when he became a monastic founder in the American church that he decided to reinvent himself as a liturgical conservative.

Amusingly, I see no entry in the accounts for funds received from the Archdiocese of Sydney to cover the costs of Fr. Abourjaily staying at Silverstream for an extended period. I wonder was that another “cash under the counter” job?

It has been the repeated failure of Bishop Deenihan to do the right thing. It is clear that he has punished the whistleblower, Dom Benedict Anderson by forcing him to reside outside the house of his monastic profession. Like a typical ignorant Cork-born man, Deenihan has weaponised the canonical processes of the Church in attempt to punish and undermine the credibility of Anderson by accusing him of violating the seal of confession. I have it on good authority from priests of the Diocese of Meath that the allegation made against Andersen came from within Silverstream.

It continues to be scandalous that Silverstream Priory to have Mark Kirby as one of its Directors, who according to the accounts served as the company secretary throughout the financial year.

In light of its sad history and the sordid past of its founder, the harsh reality is that Silverstream Priory does not have a future. In any other Irish Diocese, Silverstream would be facing suppression, but I suspect, Deenihan does not want to be seen to be acting and responsive to his brother Bishop in Larne, Pat Buckley.

Conversely, the adverse publicity from the blog has been good for Silverstream. We read the following: “At the end of the financial year the charity has assets of €2,725,454 (2019 – €2,570,177) and liabilities of €126,574 (2019 – €146,643). The net assets of the charity have increased by €175,346”.

Also in the accounts we read the following:

“The principal activity of the company is the advancement of the Catholic faith through the establishment of a Benedictine monastery in Ireland. The company relies on donations to continue its work and there is always the risk of not getting sufficient funds to continue the development of the monastery. However, the Directors intend to set aside excess funds for future development. The company had a surplus of €175,346 compared with a surplus in 2019 of €37,780 while net assets at 31st December 2020 amounted to €2,598,880 compared with net assets of €2,423,534 as at 31st December 2019”.

Bishop Deenihan will be pleased by all that cash; because, when Silverstream Priory is suppressed by a Decree of the Holy See its closure will engorge the coffers of the Diocese of Meath. Bishop Tom who loves the Latin Mass, will keep encouraging the cash to keep rolling in Silverstream’s bank account.

I wonder: did Bishop Deenihan receive a generous “gift” from Silverstream when he was appointed the Bishop of Meath? In the church it is known as a “gift” in industry it is known as a “bribe”.

Silverstream Priory has been fantastic for the viewing figures of my blog. Because, it is a scandal that is not going away. It is a gift that keeps on giving. And, I am sure it will be the source of many more stories until the Priory is suppressed. You never know: my blog might get a bigger mention in the accounts next year.

128 replies on “SILVERSTREAM”

“The Monastery has received some negative media attention, which may have some negative impact on income for the Company”. 🤣🤣🤣
Now that is absolutely hilarious. I am amused that the professionals involved in the production of the accounts allowed that to be recorded. It is just nuts. But Silverstream is nuts and it is a scandal that keeps going and going. When will it ever end? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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+Pat, I agree with your analysis that Deenihan would like the coffers of Silverstream to be as full as possible when the place is suppressed. Once provision is made for the monks the rest will go to Meath. Deenihan is really interested in the property which will be of real interest to a developer.

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Where did you get the idea that bishop Deenihan loves the Latin Mass? If he left Maynooth without a degree it would be most unlikely he would have any Latin more than Kyrie eleison, and amen. As the former is Greek and the latter Hebrew it would be tactless to state what is evident.

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His Excellency. Bishop Deenihan has a doctorate. Please have some respect for his intellectual status.

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I suppose it’s not so unusual that someone would be admitted to a master’s programme without a primary degree.

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He was probably admitted to the doctoral program on the basis of his experience as a teacher and administrator.

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The post is being facetious on this point. Bishop Deenihan is not protecting Silverstream for any other reason than he is biding his time until he can engorge himself on its proceeds without looking as if the suppression is a response to pressure from our favourite episcopal blogger.

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A question many asked at the time when the likes of Dermot Farrell, Denis Nulty and Declan Hurley were available. Maybe +Tom’s affinity for property transactions made him stand out from the crowd.

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Are you claiming Declan Hurley is episcopal material? Is there any such thing any more, given the subject under discussion?

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Never under-estimate the connections that Cork & Ross has. Deenihan was so openly ambitious that he would eventually get a Bishopric. The clergy in Cork knew well enough to have him moved on before Cork & Ross became vacant. Sometimes you just got to knock the sliotar out of the park to score a pint.

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How did you get that annual report, Bishop Pat? The accounts of Irish charities are much more hidden than in the UK. Annual reports are few and far between on the Irish charity regulator website. It would be great, for example, to see the annual reports and accounts of Maynooth, which probably also mention the blog 🤣

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May God bless the monks at Silverstream and protect them from haters. There is much rottenness in commenters opinions. Lots of speculative judgments being made by you miserable lot of vengeful people. Seek the mercy of God.

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They might consider protecting themselves from the “haters” by uttering a few words in their defense. But I suspect that the consistent silence means that there is no defense to be made for Kirby and for what has been done to Fr Anderson.

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Maybe Deenihan and Phonsie are hoping to move in and live in the Den of iniquity when they are forced to resign by the other evildoers in Rome.

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Concern about certain words and gesture of Francis does not make for sedevacantism. Dr. Peter Kwasniewski has produced a lot of fine material for Catholics (https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/ and many books) who wish to be part of the Church’s future not a deeply problematic 50 year old experiment (essentially based on fabricated history and now discredited ideas) which has essentially erased Catholicism (as something with a future or like in Belgium erased it almost entirely) in most of western Europe. Francis claims sins of the flesh to be not so serious, when almost all those are mortal sins. All mortal sins are frankly equal. Dying with the stain of it leads directly to hell. Words like that are a positive menace to those fighting sexual compulsions or addictions. Those who fail to fight those compulsions often end up the subject of posts on this blog and / or in cells, not of the monastic sort.
Anyhow sedevacantists reject the orders of other sedes on plausible grounds (the Thuc consecrations) or nonsense like non una cum (a wilful distortion and a cultic device that holds any Mass mentioning Pope Francis in the Canon must be avoided by Catholics). The founding of the CMRI, a notable sede body, was a once somewhat well known occasion of horrifying scandal, both sexual crimes and mistreatment of children. Noticeably CMRI do not mention their founder Francis Schuckardt (https://cmri.org/about-cmri/history-of-cmri/). They seem moderate in their way, but why do they keep the name given them by someone so wretched? Dr. Peter Kwasniewski could not be more distant from these sects, which don’t really matter. Sedevacantism is a thing only really in the US and Mexico.
The serenity and efficiency of the SSPX (expellee Bp Williamson and other micro breakaways are a side issue of a side issue and there are concerns about them on well known or not so well known grounds, like one Fr Abraham, altho his current situation does keep him out of the way, and no more can be done as he was never charged) who rightly recognise Francis as Pope should be an example for all Catholics. They can only take a minority of the young men who wish to be priests with them. They can barely accommodate Mass goers.
The Legionaries of Christ were founded by fearsome sexual predator Marcial Maciel who reported died unrepentantly. JP2 was three monkeys with Maciel who helped things by generous gifts of money. Yet it was not suppressed and seems reasonably successful if somewhat cult-like. LC priests are certainly apologetic over their wicked founder. Now the fruity windbag Dom Kirby (I heard him preach once, lots of nothing wrapped in elaborate phraseology) seems both a menace to young men and charlatan but what he created seems successful, as Kirby used a proven model. It is not surprising he disliked the TLM. Silverstream was a business decision and a ticket to fame. Kirby and any of his friends need to be removed from any control over Silverstream. And amends need to be made to the whistleblower, Dom Anderson. I predict that Silverstream will not be suppressed, but if corrections aren’t made, it will look less and less credible. Kicking out Kirby seems simpler than suppression.
Traditional Benedictine spirituality has worked well with Le Barroux (https://www.barroux.org/en/) and other places. In fact traditional houses operate so well they can draw jealous and covetous attention. The Franciscan of the Immaculate were essentially reduced to a shell, but happily the effort to loot its property failed as a lay trust holds it. Currently a series of visitations (mostly in the US) are wreaking havoc on the houses of religious sisters who are both devout and actually under 50. At least the FI experience lets them know that these visitations are about destroying them, so nuns often just decamp to some other location.
Pope Francis should accept as Benedict did that Latin Catholicism is no monolith. Tradition just works.
Apologies as this is surely too long, got through some horrible work.
God bless all here, particularly +Pat.

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If the definition of ‘tradition’ excludes the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican and the 1970 Missal, you’re already sedevacantist, there’s no way around it. It is the natural end of the tridentinist route.

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That is just silly. Annibale Bugnini CM, effectively creator the New Order of Mass personally granted an indult of the TLM to the then relatively youthful Rosminian Fr Charles-Roux with the words roughly ‘my dear boy, you need hardly ask.’ England and Wales, got the Heenan (the Cardinal was a help to St. Paul VI) or Agatha Christie indult granted TLM under the 1966/7 Missal wherever the bishop permitted. Rejecting V2 is like picking up mercury with a fork. What interpretation of V2 and particularly Sacrosanctum Concilium (Latin and chant upheld despite loose phrasing) or Lumen Gentium (which upheld EENS).

Brain freeze with Dr K. His liturgical writing are good, just read them, but him and his wife are utter cronies of the disgraced former abbot and conman (although it is more like the abbot just vanished, it’s intriguing really). I notice NLM suddenly has nothing on the abbot after 2013. Dr Joseph Shaw, head of the LMS (UK), who called Taylor Marshall a fool for suggesting the French Ecclesia Dei societies openly defy Pope Francis, is a more amenable defender of TLM.

Now some sedes like the SSPV might envisage Francis as the office holder, but only materially until he renounces what they see as his heresies, but the SSPX accord full respect to the Pope who gave them definite faculties after the Year of Mercy. +Marcel Lefebvre signed all the documents of V2, although SC and LG gave him concern later.

Below is the last in the SSPX series on the crisis in the Church:

Also read their news service:

https://www.sspx.news/en

The Lord Francis is not a figurehead, although some matters are under dispute.

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I would add too that Bp Rifan, head of the Personal Administration of St John Vianney, a Brazilian traditional society has concelebrated NOM with Pope Francis and FSSP priests may concelebrate if asked, although this only usually relates to the bishop’s Chrism Mass. They can do so any time after an Ecclesia Dei ruling Anyhow not having the standard Mass in its charism does not mean rejecting the Pope or V2.

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Anon 2811
Thank you for your examples of lip service. Attachment to the pre-Vatican 2 forms can only lead to sedevacantism because youre already picking and choosing.
And if you’re going to say but there is no final dictat of what the Vatican 2 documents say, you are on that road yourself.

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Anon at 2811.

Interesting that you mentioned Fr Charles Roux. I met him long ago in Rome. Interesting character…. A priest who loved TLM.

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A very well-written comment, Anon2811. It is very curious that so few trads seem to be coming to SP’s defense. In fact with the exception of a lone nutter on Twitter (who always chickens out and deletes), there’s been no defense of SP that I’ve seen in a public way online.

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When the closure of Silverstream does become a reality Tom Deenihan will breathe a sigh of relief because he and by extension the Diocese of Meath will be no longer a source of mirth for Pat Buckley.

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Teflon Tom is only 54 so has another 20+ years to surprise and delight the audience, God willing.

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It seems Kitty still has her admirers, Bp Pat, and is willing to donate despite the allegations of sexual and/or financial impropriety.

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FFS, I am so fed up with this litany of corruption, wrongdoing and coverup in places that are supposed to be holy places. Everywhere we look, there are so called religious people involved in all sorts of misdoings, some of it criminal. The stench is overwhelming. There is constant ongoing collusion and coverup by these people while at the same time attempting to portray a veneer of faux religiosity and spirituality. The glimpses that we have been able to get show the real picture. The only way forward is for them to be brought to account through transparency and honesty, and then if not able to be reformed, then to be suppressed. + Pat has the ability to shatter the facades and for the truth to be made clear. I admire his fearlessness in this. Somebody has to do it, because the rest – bishops, clergy, nuncios, Vatican etc – have a vested interest in keeping the secrets and allowing things to carry on.

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Really not being funny but you have to face the fact that the ‘corruption’ is the actual business of the church and the religious bit is a respectability-giving side hustle.

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9:43, are you saying that Owen McD, the accountant for Silverstream, is gay married to a former priest? Explain!

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6.30: Outrageous and slanderous accusations by you and 9.43. Horrible, nasty bitching. Cruel and unnecessary. All you bastardos need God’s mercy.

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8:08, relax, I am asking for 9:43 to clarify his obviously ridiculous comment. Sheesh!

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This publication justifies your blog even more Pat, not that you or us readers needed it. You give a voice to those who can not speak and a platform for the rest to raise issues with clergy they could not do in person.

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Here is a full set of accounts all available for download including the detailed ones.
All you have to is to download it.👇
https://www.charitiesregulator.ie/en/information-for-the-public/search-the-register-of-charities/charity-detail?srchstr=Silverstream%20&regid=20080525
What’s noticeable at a glance was 3 new directors.
One name Gerard Deighton, new director, which I thought that I saw his name somewhere as it sounded familiar.
Think he’s a priest in Harrington Street church re TLM. Is it the same priest or is it a different person in question.
What happened to two investigations👇, 🤷‍♂️?
1. Irish charity regulator.
2. Garda.
Visitation remains open although I could be wrong there, open to correction. It isn’t closed from what I recall reading the pillar.

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Your asking the right questions DG 9:59!
The Garda investigation cannot go on indefinitely?
“The Visitation Report warned the community that the civil legal structure of .. Priory needed attention to make it compliant with civil law, the Revenue Commissioners, the Charity Governance Code and Data Protection legislation.
Other concerns focused on the monastery’s failure to present annual accounts to Prioty’s chapter for approval.”
Who is following up on these points from the report to ensure compliance?
“In their report, the visitation team recognised that serious breaches of medical data protection and spiritual confidentiality”
Who is following up on these concerns? Surely a follow up visitation is required next year to see what progress has been made?

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You would think so, Seamus but the matter has obviously been passed on to those two bodies to wash the diocese’s hands. It is very rare indeed for charity regulators to do anything more than a slap on the wrist, and I would doubt that any crime has been committed with the level of evidence necessary for a prosecution.
It’s all smoke and mirrors.

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3:12,
The diocese seemed to conclude that the departed abbot had been “imprudent,” and “lacked proper boundaries,” but that his behavior didn’t meet the level of sexual abuse.
The reporting to Gardaí was the bishop covering his Episcopal backside!

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Any word on this from Rome apostolic Signatura tribunal?
Dom Anderson outed as a whistle blower cos he did the right thing. While at the same time, kirby stays.
Strange and weird logic decision made by both Deenihan and Kirby plus the visitation team as well re good guy out as culprit one stays 😁😉🤷‍♂️.

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Fr Deighan knows trouble and keeps from it. He preached once against traditionalists criticising Pope Francis. Whatever concerns a person may have, it is a poor look.
https://silverstream-cenacle-sc1r.squarespace.com/
I notice their new site. The old link (https://www.cenacleosb.org/) points to the same resource. And it links to Vultus Christi (https://vultuschristi.org/) which mysteriously ceased being updated. Presumably Dom Mark Kirby remains a priest in good standing, but I hope the allegations are properly aired, well at least canonically, and it’s not just a matter of Dom Mark vanishing because of ‘ambiguity’ or a bad cough. One can hope.

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In principle Silverstream had huge potential. While it was a little quirky and too American for my tastes, those who came and joined the community did so in good faith and we should not deprecate the sincerity of their intentions.

But it has become clear that the founder is a flawed individual with an unsavoury and chequered ecclesiastical history. That should have rung alarm bells for Bishop Smith, however, we have learned from this blog that no due diligence was undertaken. And it remains just remarkable that Deenihan continues to do nothing about a major source of ongoing scandal in his own diocese. One has to wonder what is Deenihan hiding? Does he have an ulterior motive?

Deenihan will be enraged to be referred to as an ignorant Cork man on this blog. That was deliberate and provocative but it is the ugly truth. He has not surrounded himself in glory with his mishandling of this scandal.

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Three new directors. Raises a few Questions. Why is Mark still listed as a Director and not the new Superior ? Who are the three new Directors ? Who did they replace ? Did the previous Directors resign or is there an in built rotation ?

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Meath PP at 10.54am
Think its a deliberate decision to omit new superior so that kirby can control things afar from the board instead of being bypassed by new superior.
New director names sounded like familiar American surnames, eg Houser. Perhaps k
Kirby may want to bring in from outside to dilute irish control or?
It seems to me that directors names doesn’t tally with names of directors on financial accounts. A mismatch if you could see it yourself.
We know now based on charity regulator lists of directors that Gérard Deighton is gone. Problem with financial accounts was that its a snapshot at one time or date. So it’s not updated as they go along except for charity regulator website.
That’s my take here.

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The new superior is on the board under his non-monastic name. Most of the other names are those of current monks, as well. There is also the name of a secular priest of Meath Diocese.

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+Pat an important and timely blog. It is good to see the finances of Silverstream set out in an accessible manner. I am amazed they continue to receive donations. But the Latin mass crowd in Ireland see absolutely no evil in any priest who celebrates the TLM. They are wilfully and deliberately blind.

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You would think trads would like bri-nylon, though, since it stopped being used as it never wore out. Cloth of ages. 😉

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On one of the previous blogs about Silverstream, Bp Pat, you hinted much of Kirby’s behaviour happen in Canada.
Your also said, “I could go into more detail – and will if necessary.” Has that time now come? I wonder.

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Oul Gossip Alert @ 1:33pm

No Nettie bri-nylon is just as tacky and tasteless as polyester so would be more suitable for what you like. You’re probably still wearing that bri-nylon pink basque that you’ve worn for ages, it must be minging.😉

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2.02 pm prefers crimplene frocks – so easy to wash and wear and difficult stains just wipe off.

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Possibly related but I once served mass (new rite) wearing a cotta blessed by Archbishop Lefebvre. Just saying.

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SNAP and Bishop accountability director Phil Saviano passed away recently which I didn’t know until now. It took place a week ago.

His name was mentioned in the movie ‘spotlight’.

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So would I. In fact according to that article about the sod turning it was supposed to be completed early 2019.
I wonder if the bishop had difficulty deciding which sod to turn.

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Anon at 12.27pm

Concur with your sentiment 👆.
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Cost to build a new church is quoted at €2.425M per letter 👆.

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That quoted building costs is unbelievably crazy or way too high.

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I don’t think it will be built.

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I seem to recall that Cardinal Burke visited Silverstream sometime in November 2016. It was his second visit. Perhaps, he was visiting the fledging foundation because his former secretary Fr Houser had joined the community. Would Burke now approve of Silverstream in light of what is now known about Kirby and his nefarious pass?

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+Pat, I think it is no harm for readers of the blog to be reminded of what has been alleged by the co-founder of Silverstream Dom Benedict Andersen. He has made a number of serious accusations. They were found to be sufficiently serious to warrant a visitation of the community. It is truly unfortunate for him that the visitators were the now disgraced Richard Purcell and the incompetent Brendan Coffey. It must be tragic for him to have Deenihan as his bishop.
It is obvious that Deenihan is punishing the whistleblower in order to minimise his own mishandling of the allegations and for bringing negative publicity on the diocese.
And if you are correct that the allegation about Dom Andersen allegedly violating the seal of confession came from within the Silverstream community. It has no credibility particularly if it came from a Kirby loyalist/sycophant. But of course Deenihan ran with it because he needed something to destroy the reputation of the whistleblower.
It is good that you have many contacts in the Diocese of Meath that provide you with information because otherwise this is another monastic scandal that would never have seen the light of day.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/monk-alleges-abuse-and-retaliation

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Has Anderson now been found guilty and “sentenced” (I don’t know the better term in canon law) for this supposed crime? Could he lose the priesthood over it ? It’s absolutely sickening to me how the church can lure young men in, ordain them, and cast them out like rubbish when it’s expedient.

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Deenihan has not pursued any action as he knows its a totally invalid accusation from within the community.

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Andersen+ needs to clear himself of all Western fantasies and realize that the Vatican II cult is here to stay, at least for the foreseeable future. I’d suggest a return to Holy Orthodoxy in her most Eastern forms.

BTW, I understand that 24% of ROCOR now consists of Irish folks. A very small amount, I’m sure, but at least they’re not bowing towards Mecca.

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The gross misconduct of Kwasniewski in serving as editor, censor deputatus, and online promoter of “In Sinu Jesu” needs to be exposed. That book bears the imprimatur of the emeritus Bishop of Meath: thus, it is yet another huge embarrassment for the Diocese.

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It shouldn’t have an imprimatur as it stands, there are a couple of major faux pas not compatible with the deposit of faith, but these have been allowed through.

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The book talks about being a victim and mortification in a way which was common before Vatican 2 but we now more easily recognize as often having a sexual motivation. Obviously I’m not saying it necessarily does with Kirby, I don’t know him. One of the positive things the wake of the council brought was that religious no longer tended to do things like whip themselves, however I understand these ‘penitential’ practices are still carried out in ‘trad’ communities, which makes me wonder whether they are at Silverstream.
The mere fact that the adoring monk puts a noose around his neck has always struck me as kinky enough that the place should be given a wide berth.

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“Special K” has been one of the principal architects of the Kirby mystique, and as such, bears some serious responsibility for the train-wreck that is Silverstream Priory.

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@ 2.44
Kwasniewski is just bananas. I was unaware of his existence until +Pat wrote him an open email. I now occasionally look at his Facebook profile. He is obsessed with the TLM. It is interesting in his Facebook postings that I have seen that he is not encouraging vocations to Silverstream. To me this is quite curious because his son is a monk of Silverstream. It is because of places like Silverstream and people like Kirby that the TLM has a very bad name.

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The link is broken. Dr K is presumably in a US timezone and doesn’t have his comments in some sort of pre-authorise mod. He cannot be responsible for the silliness of others. Insofar as I can tell, whatever unseemly comment has gone from his page. Hopefully he and his wife (Dom Kirby’s spiritual daughter) can persuade Dom Kirby to take responsibility, although that hope might be Land of Narnia stuff.

Anyhow I hope Dom Andersen gets justice, and help from anyone who can help.

The rumour on Pope Francis dying originates with Newsmax, who might have a mixed reputation, although the journalist John Gizzi is reputable, but it is in essence what most of that age face, although my uncle of 88 drives with few enough problems.

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I went back to Irish charity regulator website while ago as details on Silverstream not available right now.

I was puzzled by this BUT it was available this morning as regards to details of names of directors and financial accounts.

Whats going ON re Irish charity regulator?

Obviously, somebody in RCC or someone else have been talking to Irish charity regulator today before all the details were taken down.

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@Deaf guy
You are right. It is inexplicable that the accounts should disappear as soon as they appear on Buckley’s blog. I also noted that the accounts for the Church of Ireland Dioceses of Meath and Kildare are also not available. And, that is also the case for the Roman Catholic Dioceses and Parishes of Meath. It could be just a glitch in the system. We can have a look again tomorrow.

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anon at 3.52pm

Irish charity regulator is back online with details.

I do not know if its a glitch or some details were taken down.

For instance, Silver stream Priory financial accounts for the year ended 2020 were deleted or omitted on purpose,who knows? But just 3 financial accounts for the year ending at 2014,2015,2016 still online.

However year end for 2017,2018, 2019 and 2020 still not available right now despite it was available all this morning.

Its quite noticeable when i had checked on another organisation related to disability, same thing is happening re accounts for 2017 to 2020 is still missing etc as Silver stream Priory.

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anon at 3.52
Further clarification as i realised my mistake,oops
Financial accounts from 2017 to 2020 is there with a drop down button (show all) which i didn’t see it in the 1st place.
apologies.

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I have just consulted the website of the Charities Regulator. I had no difficulty accessing the accounts for Silverstream Priory. And, I was able to see that Mark Kirby is still listed as a Trustee. His tenure started on: May 2, 2012.

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I hope that Cistercian College Roscrea will publish accounts and make available to pastmen who donated money. In particular, it is important that if any money was paid to Richard Purcell in November 2017. this is itemised.

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+Pat, I cannot help but notice that when you have these very tightly drafted blogs that a lot of people do not comment. I appreciate this high standard of writing. It adds a lot more credibility to what you are asserting.

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@anon2811

Your posting is extremely thought-provoking. We will have to disagree about Kwasniewski. I do not consider his work to be original as he has no appreciation of liturgical history. He produces excellent propaganda that reflects his autistic-like obsession with the TLM.

I do, however, agree with your observations about the Legion of Christ and its scandalous founder. But the real reason the Legion of Christ was not suppressed there was so much money at stake. They remain a corrupt and metastasising cancer in the Church.

Le Barroux has NOT worked well. It is riven with division and infighting. It, too, has its own scandals that have not come into the public domain. That community is a demonstrable example of the triumph of style over substance.

You eloquently describe Dom Kirby and his hysterical preaching. However, I predict that Silverstream will be suppressed because Deenihan does not want the failed experiment of his predecessor in his diocese.

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The Incumbent of Meath is now on the horns of a dilemma: he may want to suppress but he cannot bring himself to be seen to be dancing to this blog’s fiddle. So he lets the controversy fester, day by day, month by month, and now it seems, year by year. And this blog delights in every second of it!

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I submit that Bishop Tom would do well to learn from Pope Francis’ recent airplane press conference.

He accepted Aupetit’s resignation immediately because the controversy surrounding him made his ministry as Archbishop of Paris functionally impossible.

And that controversy is a tempest in a teapot compared to almost two years now of the Kirby-Deenihan-Cullinan-Purcell-Coffey axis of misconduct and rank stupidity!

Silverstream Priory is a true international scandal; either reform it (beginning with the expulsion of Kirby and the appointment of a sane outsider as prior) or suppress it, for the good of the people of God.

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Silverstream is utterly irredeemable. Dom Kirby’s vanity project for the greater good of the Church needs to be suppressed with all haste. The monks who are in solemn vows need assistance to transfer to mainstream Benedictine communities. Those in simple vows need to be assisted to find willing abbots who will accept them, and those who are not yet professed should be sent on their way.

I agree that Silverstream will be suppressed. The appointment of a non-cleric as the superior is evidence of that reality. And, there are questions about his probity that have been raised on this blog in the past. Hence, if Deenihan was serious about keeping Silverstream open as a going concern; he would have ordained him a deacon and a priest by now. However, Deenihan knows that if he ordains anybody from Silverstream — they automatically become a priest of the Diocese of Meath, and Deenihan does not want any more problems from Silverstream.

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8:25,
Are any of the community undergoing studies for ordination? One would expect that to influence ordinations or not.
If any are ordained, they will making vows of obedience to the community and abbot, as opposed to the diocese and the bishop.
Pax.

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The ‘mainstream’ Benedictine houses whether in the Benedictine confederation or the Swiss-German congregation (if there are any at least in the UK) have a very senior age profile, of an age where the monk is excused the full rigours of the Divine Office and life, while Silverstream has young monks. A simpler solution would be to engage a prior from somewhere like La Barroux with a traditional Benedictine charism. A bent prior doesn’t merit the suppression of a whole community however much some on the blog detest the traditional Mass. If perv priors or pervy senior monks were the criteria for suppression, a lot of male religious houses would vanish. I would be surprised if it is suppressed. It would be a radical pivot from the visitation, how problematic some aspects of that were.

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I agree, Anon2811. The examples of the church suppressing institutes on that basis are few and far between, Dom Andersen’s former community in Rome being one of the few examples.
My money would be on it being kept going to the bitter end not to give the Bishop of Larne the satisfaction.

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10:50, surely you mean Dom *Kirby’s* former community in Rome (the O.Cists at Santa Croce in Gerusalemme) and NOT Dom Andersen’s; the latter’s first and only religious community has been Silverstream Priory (unfortunately for him).

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I’m not convinced by the need for suppression either. The abbot resigned last year. His return is a concern. It’s fair to keep a spotlight on the on-going investigations.
The community, outside of the fallen abbot, should be afforded the opportunity to correct the failings that have gone before.
Pax.

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+Pat, I do like the approach that you took today highlighting the accounts and the financial information about Silverstream. I would encourage you to publish similar financial information about some of the other monasteries from time to time.

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The Company and the Latin Mass,,,,,, Says it all The Church is a company and the sacraments are products. Like the old diesel lorries, needs sorting out,

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HOW-HI-FLY
Good Afternoon hi.
Begorra fly the Latin lingo company reminds
me of an aul steam engine-locomotive-
a divil to get going but wicked to stop…
Needs sorting out somehow for sure.
Meantime May the Lord look after us all.+
Bye bye fly hi.

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@seamusviii
Bishop Thomas Deenihan for good or ill is the canonical superior of Silverstream Priory because it is a community of Diocesan Right. Thus, Deenihan, has the authority to dispense from vows. And, if a monk is ordained a priest that individual by virtue of the law itself is incardinated into the Diocese of Meath — a reality that Deenihan will be keen to avoid at all costs. Moreover, in communities where the Diocesan Bishop is the ultimate superior during the ordination the religious who is to be ordained a priest will promise obedience to the Bishop and to his legitimate religious superior.

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@anon2811

La Barroux is riddled with problems and it does NOT have a traditional Benedictine charism. It has appropriated a misguided and synchronistic understanding of the monastic tradition.

Yes, a bent Prior does actually merit the suppression of the whole community of Silverstream because Kirby is the founding superior. A community is an expression of the charism of the founder. And, as +Pat has remarked Silverstream is a gay man’s fantasy.

However, I do agree that if religious superiors were expected to be whiter than white then a conspicuous amount of male religious houses would have to be suppressed.

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@11:33 presumably you mean anachronistic, regarding a form of Life followed from the 560s to the late 1960s. The thing is that houses that went full tilt with the ‘spirit of V2’ are variously closed or the habitation of a few men of advanced years, traditionally too old for the full rigours of the monastic Rule. This spirit, not based on the imperfect but reasonable documents of V2, has done what war and plague has not managed, that is, largely obliterated the Church in most of northern Europe. No monastery is perfect, but la Barroux is a place of life, not a waiting room for death like most monasteries in Europe. This is not to score points, but something has gone really wrong here.

A good many houses, good and bad will simply shutter or be repurposed without any urgent need for suppression before they become some sort of HSE office.

Kirby is strongly alleged to sexually harass young men (and quite possibly helped himself to money, or shared it out), but the life of that house mixing the Benedictine way with perpetual adoration seems adequate, and would need nothing more than a clear out of Kirby (plus Kirby) linked directors and perhaps some re ordering of the monastic life, although the mix of work and prayer seems a good starting point. Perhaps another Benedictine house could help clear it of Kirbyism.

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Who Fits into the community?
“If a man brings with him a cheerful, flexible disposition and the ability to adapt to changes in routine, he will do well with us. If, on the other hand, he is rigid, legalistic, all bound up in personal patterns of piety, and incapable of adapting himself to the exigencies of a growing monastery, he will not thrive with us. It goes without saying that anyone with a disposition that is chronically critical, judgemental, or arrogant is unfit for monastic life.”

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Altho the source be Silversteam, it is a wise set of words. St John of the Cross told of having to pull away novices from odd personal forms of devotion towards the comradeship of common life, unless I misremember.

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Why do the Meath clergy allow Deenihan to behave in this way. Silverstream priests are incardinated into Meath. Ordaining a candidate a priest while he is still in temporary vows is a serious matter. Who was responsible for this decision?

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