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AMY MARTIN SAYS HE HAS BEEN IN LOVE !

I cringe when people like Amy Martin say that they have been in love and have sacrificed a wife and children to serve God.

I have no proof one way or the other but I believe that both Martin and the others who go on like that are “not the marrying type”

In other words, in my opinion, they are gay.

I’m not claiming that any of them have acted out their gayness. That I simply don’t know – and its not the Blog’s business – unless they have behaved in a hypocritical way.

I would be very surprised if Amy Martin had ever acted out because he strikes me as a deeply repressed man – and as a man who gets his pleasures by being full of himself and having power over others.

There are rumours from Ara Coeli that he has temper tantrums?

His predecessor, Tomas O’Fiaich whose sexuality I haven’t a clue about, was, I believe, very integrated. He had no airs or graces, rode a bike around Armagh ( a man’s bike), and cycled to the GAA club in Armagh for a pint on a Sunday after Mass.

On the two occasions I visited him in Armagh he was very gracious, generous with tea and sandwiches and treated me to a home poured Irish whiskey.

He also spent an afternoon on the booze with my Dad, Jim, in Lourdes.

LOURDES

But I do think that Tomas, had things been different, would have made a good husband and father.

No I don’t believe that Amy was ever really in love with anyone apart from himself.

And I don’t think that the virginity of the girls in Derry’s Bogside was ever under any threat from Amy as they grew up together.

265 replies on “AMY MARTIN SAYS HE HAS BEEN IN LOVE !”

This ‘Ive given up a wife and children’ thing isn’t really so creepy because of the sexual orientation – it’s the simple fact that it’s a man making out that he’s given it all up for something greater. And there’s no point telling me they don’t see it as greater – the mere fact they become clergy and say all this shit about having been in love, proves they think it’s greater. It also proves they’re ultimately not capable of relating to another person properly. If they were actually in love they would all be married and we wouldn’t hear about it.
Even priests who keep on with priesthood and a covert relationship on the side will always put their priesthood first and are merely playing around on the side.
This is the real reason the church needs to abandon celibacy – it attracts men who can’t relate to other people. Oh, and incidentally the ones who want a cover for sexual activity which is either illegal or unwelcome to the priests themselves.

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They are very arrogant to believe they would ever have stood a chance of even attracting a woman! However with the Jeremy Kyle generation these women throw themselves at any man with a pulse

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Bishop Pat, I am truly intrigued by this article. With the mention of Armagh, one begins to shudder. I am however very pleased to see a long overdue spotlight being shone on this. There is plenty to discuss, talk about and people within this diocese should examine their pastors carefully. I am quite comfortable in suggesting that revelations about several individuals lie ahead from you.

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Pat, I can’t belueve you’d single out a particular comnent by Archbishop Martin and personalise it in a most uncharitable, judgmental way. Whatever about your disagreements with the Archbishop, do you not think this ridiculing and mockery is unfair? I remember in my youth being very much in love with a woman. I chose not to be married and opted for priesthood after a few years of teaching. We can be very u kind in misinterpreting other people’s wirds and all too quick to attribute our own bias and prejudice against ithers. I really believe that a true gospel charity would not prompt such as you have printed. Can you recall your own personal struggles with relationships and sexuality? They were not easy times for you. I’d have expected a greater kindness from you. The subject for your blog will do precisely what you intend and I think this is very unfortunate.

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Bishop Thomas sounds like my kind of Bishop. Although I’m not too sure the bike fits the correct definition of a “man’s” bike, Bishop Pat… it’s mauve and has a little white leather satchel on the back 🤔
Whatever team anybody “bats” for — as long as they’re good human beings and treat others with love, compassion and respect. You can’t go wrong x

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He may have been lin love with a man.
Lots of gay men fall in love with a girl early in life before they understand or are aware of their homosexual tendencies..also many people are bisexual.

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All men are bisexual, when they don’t get anything from women they will gladly let a man suck them off, I have many a ‘straight’ friend who just wants oral sex as their wives do not perform this or do not do it properly

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3:47: I’d be interested in studying the research you are possibly referring to. Objective properly researched analysis is one of my keenest interests, especially in sexual matters.
However if you rely solely on personal experience with your “many straight friends”, perhaps via +Pat you could make yourself known to me. One of my PHD students is formulating her thesis on such matters you refer to and might wish to draw on your knowledge 😉

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5:47 There is actually a lot of real research supporting 3:47’s comment. The thing to search for is sex in prison – but then you would know that if you were really interested in research and not in sucking off rough trade.

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That’s the Guy that was singing away & nearly jumped into the camera when saying Mass on RTE on Christmas Eve. He was almost comical actually. I truly believe him when he says that he is in love – he clearly is – with himself – that’s grand – but don’t be expecting his congregation to “turn the other cheek” to suit his “narrative & “agenda”.

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Did you notice that the kyrie was a mass setting composed by the gay composer Ian Callanan, very very good friend of ex cistercian Abbot, dom dick

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Dear Bishop Pat,
It is good to see today’s focus on Northern Ireland. I hope 2022 will bring much more of this. Indeed from what I have heard from several sources, there is a very big problem indeed which must be addressed.
It is believed that in a particular diocese, there is a laissez-faire culture. Gladly, not everyone in that diocese toes the official line. Thank the Lord for His kindness. And thankfully assertions are not flimsy.
Frankly it is surprising in this diocese to see the lives of excess and immorality lived by those wrongly lauded on a par with Christ Himself. But wasn’t that always the problem with us Irish? It is deeply concerning to be recently made aware of goings-on involving clergy and it is ultimately a matter of diocesan concern. Or Pat, is this worthwhile at all? Perhaps you might deal with it more appropriately? As we ‘Catholics’ know the drill by now 😂
We hear much about forums which focus on our future as a Catholic Church community. But who are the ‘role models’ in our communities, both within Church and other influential settings, leading this religious growth? What are their morals like?
Before we look forward, we must first address the present and indeed the past.
Your blog today will open a can of worms, I am quite sure of that. It must be done. The sad part of this is that often the honorable and decent priests who give their all, mirroring the work of Christ, are tarnished too. I am quite sure this is not your intention, and hope it does not occur.
Bishop Pat, I implore you to persevere with this and I pray for God’s blessing upon you as you, with the aid of every good upstanding Catholic’s support, throw a spotlight upon a very concerning spectre which for a number of years now, has developed into a festering wound in Northern Ireland. I am in no doubt you are aware of this particular spectre already.
God Bless +

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Anonymous @ 1:38.
You are “dropping hints” in a somewhat sanctimonious way, but, even commenting anonymously, haven’t the balls to be more specific with information on your concerns.
Typical!

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Oh yeah@11:58, and we’re all impressed with their actions so far in that respect!

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Bishop Pat,
According to your fairly spot-on definition of “not the marrying type” we can deduce that this part of the North is home to a very interesting clerical group. Are these individuals active in their alternative lifestyle? The definite conclusion is: without doubt.
When, where, and perhaps even why does this occur and not be addressed? Is it because it is carried out super secretly? Or, is it because it is accepted? What is the moral price paid by those who should know better?
Thankfully I do understand this will all come to light. Some of the poor and naive faithful bow and worship false idols as far as this is concerned. As for some of our all-singing all-dancing priests … where are they? And more interestingly, why….? Just what exactly is going on here?
**Onward Christian Soldiers**

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It’s been a trope for the last half-century, male priests and religious proclaiming how much they have given up by vowing to celibacy. The unspoken assumption is, of course, that they would have been wonderful husbands and fathers if they hadn’t. Oh, yeah? That kind of talk is born of pride; take a close look at any cleric who says such a thing.

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Yes, I see tumbleweed blowing there. Can he not even get the admin staff and his priests to like his tweets? +Eamon Martin strikes me as a boring company man. His coat of arms should be just the colour beige not this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Martin#/media/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Eamon_Martin.svg
Some bishops opt not to have coat of arms, but I think selecting the dropper in MS Paint and filling the image with beige would be the most appropriate image, not some clutching at a false humility.
Perhaps +Pat knows some things that might make him a bit more interesting. It’s probably not a secret palace, floozie and emptying the collection plate into his pockets, but likely a three monkeys response to the usual man on man stuff. I would see him following the procedures on any bending over boys thing, in fairness, say, suspending pending investigation.

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Unrequited love, presumably. However, it must have been very emotional for him, Bp Pat, especially after he had to dance to your tune over Rory Coyle.

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+Amy’s predecessor, +O’Fiaich, looks a bit like +O’Brien, big and fit. I imagine he got his leg over more than that bike.

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On a brighter note…
The mornings will be getting brighter after the latest sunrise of the year this morning.
“…say that they have been in love and have sacrificed a wife and children to serve God.”
This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you.
Pax.

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But anyone who is too poor and cannot afford these offerings may bring one male lamb for a guilt offering, to be lifted up as a special offering for purification. The person must also bring two quarts of choice flour moistened with olive oil for the grain offering and a cup of olive oil.

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A priest in belfast is keeping a local bike on board by telling him he is in ‘love’ but really is biding his time to pluck up the courage to leave his job

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The local bike that seeks out priests and then black mails them we know him too well and is a regular commentator on this blog with shady comments

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In one of Cardinal Burke’s retreat talks he spoke on the topic of priestly celibacy. He stressed that In renouncing marriage and a family for the sake of the Kingdom, priests imitate Christ, the High Priest and Victim, who Himself was celibate, and free themselves to be able to serve God, and Christ’s flock, with a single andundivided heart. But what exactly do the vast majority of gay priests renounce? Marriage and a family was never an option for them.

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9:53, same sex couples cannot naturally conceive. It’s the Natural Reproductive Order. Same sex couples however can adopt and it is the Christian thing to do.
Pax.

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9.55
Not so. The reception of any articulation of dogma and doctrine by the People of God is an intrinsic element in evaluating the veracity and status of that teaching.

In relation to the reception of IVF by Catholics it’s clear it has been and is being rejected.

If Ireland is anything to go by, same-sex marriage has been endorsed by a majority of Catholics.

Along with scripture, tradition, magisterium as sources of divine revelation we often forget to include human reason as the necessary fourth source.

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I wouldnt be so rejecting of IVF – god gifted us this skill to support struggling would-be parents. The preference of adoption over IVF in Catholic teaching just reflects the slow movement of the institution. We must objectively recall that adoption had two impacts on for the church,

1. Reduced the costs of running industrial schools
2. Was merely a source of “income”, although this might be better worded by more educated people who can present it as something other than baby-selling.

Catholic health institutions are quick to accept areas of medicine that are profitable making but were not ready to profit from IVF when it emerged. Hence the resistance.

Pax back at you Seamus viii

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THG 10:59,
One of the crosses that the LGBT community carry is that they cannot naturally conceive with their partner. Adoption is the Christian way for these Christian people.
We live in a vacuum where there is no shepherd to guide the LGBT community. The blessings of love in Germany are an olive branch but the blessings must be followed up with Christian advice to guide these people on the right path.
Pax.

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Seamus showing his full understanding of human life and sexuality. 😟
There was many a time in the early years of our marriage I sucked my husband off because we were so frightened of conceiving again. Eventually we came to our senses and I went on the pill. We’d been married five years and it was like every day was our honeymoon again!

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@11.26, Seamus viii
Respectfully, today you are showing Catholic indoctrination – which is not characteristic of you.
Here is an alternative option. Two married lesbiens asked The Holy Goat to donate sperm so they could conceive. I declined for obvious legal and canonical difficulties.
These ladies faced options of IVF, agreed “unfaithfulness” or adoption. I did point out that the IVF aspect was costing €15,000 without guarantee. It is entirely possible for 4 homosexuals, two gay men and two gay women to form agreement around procreation.
The bigger issue ought to be the fact that this Republic will fund abortion but not IVF

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THG 3:41,
It might appear that I am “showing Catholic indoctrination” but it is not the case. It is understandable that you might think so.
Two lesbians naturally cannot come together and conceive. That’s part and parcel of homosexual relationships. They are not a heterosexual couple and they should fully embrace their homosexuality. Adoption is a wonderful contribution that they can make for themselves and for society.
Many couples who should be able to conceive naturally, sadly cannot. Are there societal factors involved that are an impact? Couples who should be able to conceive naturally but have not should have access to fair medical treatment and financial assistance.
It is perverse that abortion is funded. Adoption should be more of an acceptable option and solution in society.

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I think Seamus probably is actually celibate, judging by the idealistic cathbot way he talks about sex. Some poor woman has had a lucky escape from him telling her about natural law.

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Perhaps he is in love with the trolley dolly? It’s the only logical explanation for why he would ordain a completely unsuitable character to the priesthood in the coming months.

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9:27: Oh we all know, especially the ladies of Loughinisland, and further on too.
We are all watching, …..and waiting.

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Has anyone seen him around Mrs W, his eyes are like lizards, goodness knows what the trousers are doing

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I do wish a priest or bishop would stand up in the pulpit and tell people what damage celibacy has done to him and his clerical colleagues, and implicitly to the Church and the congregation. Oh, I’ve heard priests going on in maudlin fashion about the ‘sacrifice’ they have had to make, and how hare it is, but usually end up by saying what a ‘joy’ and a ‘privilege’ it is too make the sacrifice. I usually sit there and think: ‘And how frigging odd it has made you, dear Father’, and we have to make our own sacrifice by putting it with you and it !’.

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But in this diocese whom are the characters, the romancers, the Mr Showmen 😉 And why is so little mentioned of certain individuals?

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I’m not gay personally, but I couldn’t (and still can’t) can’t bear the thoughts of marriage or intimacy with anyone, man or woman, so religious life was my go-to. Nearly 40 years later I can say that I would do it again given the chance, I love religious life. Some of us are happy as grumpy old bachelors.

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10.30am
Don’t have much time for Rulla S.J and his psychology but he did point out that a vocation is based ( he wrote that God uses…) on the psychodynamic rules already operative within a person…..so your point fits with his view. I hold myself that it is more complicated…..there is a huge mystery to being human…..David Attenborough in his lovely way tells us on one of his shows that even lizards have different languages ( they seemingly use ‘press-up s’ and croaks) according to their species….which prevents mating between species ……very mysterious and perhaps more advanced than ourselves!!!!! Lol….Lol….. P.S Sr. Cait who sits on Towards Healing ( as Purcell did) is a big Rulla disciple…..and worked for that school in the Greg. I think it has done a lot of harm…..saving vocations at all costs instead of decerning departure. Its big in Africa now…..decades of carnage ahead.

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When I applied to Armagh initially, I was interviewed by three people in Ara Coeli…. I arrived into the room to a waiting Fr. Pat Cassidy and Bishop James Lennon, pleasantries were passed but it was not comfortable. O’ Fiaich arrived in and asked me how I was, I said “ better now that you’re here.” He howled with laughter but enjoyed the comment. He brought instant ease to the room. I can remember almost all that was spoken. O’ Fiach asked me at one stage “ what about girlfriends?” I gave an honest answer and for a second time he howled with laughter. Lennon was stony faced at my impudence. However, Bishop Buckley, sorry to disappoint you but I think Lennon was the only one in that room who was in your words( not mine) “ the marrying kind.”

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10.34
Lennon was as big a B….x as its possible to be…..while O Fiach got him his baubles Lennon was always knifing him in the back….they had been friends, the usual. I rang Fr. Michael Woods to congratulate him on hearing of Lennons death ( he was quite shocked , he’s a good one). Michael Woods stood up to Lennon in Drogheda,,,,,Lennon always picked his clergy and then invariably dispatched them…..except for Art Mc Anerney. I shall stop there….

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10.34: Always a victim – aren’t you Pat? But you yourself did a good bit of nasty bullying of many.. Your own behaviour of selfishness hurt many. You have a very jaundiced view of yourself…all too squeaky, squeaky clean…not true but you do much good work. Try to get beyond your obsessions with other people’s peculiarities.

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I have to say Bill that is the most sensible and coherent item you have posted on this blog. Keep up the good work. In fairness Tomás O’ F was a class act. I will always remember the pure joy on his face as he drove around in the Popemobile with J P 2

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11.04

Thank you for the compliment, however may I respectfully point out; you probably paid it to me because what I posted suits your world view. When my detractors accuse me of being indecipherable or of ‘ bizarre nonsense,’ I know exactly what I am doing. Everything I posted in 2018 holds….I was arrested by a Zara Johnson in 2018….and she made it perfectly clear; ” you have upset a lot of people.” I am afraid the overlap between the Gardai and the clergy dod a lot of harm….now the Gardai were afraid of the clergy. I admire greatly Commissioner Drew Harris and his Canadian assistant ( and the Government who appointed them) for what they are attempting to do. Many the man has joined the Gardai in the last 2 decades who in another time would have tried priesthood…..reason the same…..lateral thinker here, apologies if you can’t follow. Thank you again.

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Pat, while we discuss this, what is happening with our MIA priests? Surely we need them in NI? Do you know anything?

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A priest in that diocese told me all about the naughty carry ons they get up to … scandal waiting to happen 🙈😉

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Poor Amy. He can’t win. If he had answered that question by saying he was never in love nobody would have believed him and would have thought there was something wrong with him. By the way regarding bishops feminine names my late husband always referred to our local bishop as “Auntie Winnie.” He is retired now so I will leave ye to guess who he is

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A local councillor is sleeping with a priest behind his wife’s back and now has the audacity to try and become a MLA in the upcoming election

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If it’s the cleric I’m thinking of, he is ‘enthusiastic’ about sportsmen and professionals in general. Loves to see himself as moving in high circles. It is a bit of a sad story. Get him at the right time though, and he will slabber all 😂

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Proof? Straight from the horse’s mouth. More proof than you can shake a thurible at. Hopefully he will never hold one.
He is very open mouthed about not giving a toss about this blog or its author.

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Hello Pat,
It is seldom we look at this specific geographical location on your blog. But I think you are right to do so. I would consider myself reasonably devout. But it is widely held public knowledge in certain areas about misbehaviour from clergy. The culprits are no strangers to this blog.
Please ensure Bishop Pat that you stick by this one to the end.

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I agree, much slips through the net here. Interestingly one can do no wrong. It raises suspicions about his hold on certain individuals… Moreover some are keeping a very low profile. I believe you are aware of this Pat and keen to investigate further?

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Let’s be honest about priests who say the sacrificed marriage, wife and children.
They did not. They went to seminary and as part of the formative struggle to accept celibacy this was the indoctrination. It helps heterosexual who don’t think too much. It provides a cloak for homosexuals.
In truth the homosexuals were not ready to face themselves and live openly in the world.
Also in truth the heterosexual were not mature enough to ask the woman they “loved” out on a date, they never got to know the lady, they never took the risk of breaking up, and they never took the risk of a relationship working. The idea is far different to the reality.
What is often ‘sacrificed’ was not a wife and children, but the opportuunity for the woman to say
“no thank you” in the first instance, or
“sorry mate, but this isn’t working out” or
“You need to learn to compromise because I ain’t your mom”, or
The compromises as two parents balance careers, child care, elder care for parents, increased needs if a child has a disability, the risk that a kid will be an addict, criminal or just an assh0le.
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Let’s just face it – celibacy is comfortable once the sex drive is maintained. No body really challenges us with pillow talk or stern wife direction. There’s no gambles of whom will come from the womb, and will be actually be good at parenting – which may look easy but is clearly tricky.

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Why would a cleric give up their position. Get into 2021 – some have partners simultaneously. The idiot parishioners still think the sun will rise out of their PP’s backside.

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Pat, can I point something out? I do not want to insult here today the intelligent people on your blog, but I have to bring something to their attention. I would take for granted you are already knowledgable of this:
I won’t name for good reason, several priests in this area who not only are homosexually active, but carry this lifestyle out in disturbing fashion. The bedroom would not be ‘adventurous’ enough for this individual. The reputation harnessed over time is truly incredible. I wouldn’t want the individual in question within a country mile of my house on Armageddon. What is more surprising really, is his associations and ‘friendships’ within and outside the church, in equal measure. I cringe when people refer to the likes as role models.

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I would like to say ( I did not intent to comment at all on todays Eamonn subject). I have a soft spot( please do not mangle that expression) for Eamonn Martin, he is essentially deep down a good man. But. He chased when the opportunity arose , he should never have been given power, he abuses it as his personality type does, now he must endure the consequences. Essentially, a good heart which I am sure comes form his decent parents and good family. He does not use his authority well…like a lot of the rotten bishops.

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Despite what was put up here about me when it was suggested Pat Crean Lynch should be the Archbishop of Dublin ( I think Eamonn Martin was responsible for suggesting it was me), anyone who was a friend of Pat Crean Lynch in Maynooth must have a lot to them, and I know Eamonn Martin and Pat are still friends. Pat Crean-Lynch ( not withstanding the kerry attributes ) is one of the finest gentlemen I have ever encountered. A really good man. It is to his credit ( with everything that is necessary) that he is not a bishop. That is a compliment Eamonn Martin.

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PCL was never out of the bookies when he was in Maynooth. I’m amazed they made him MC.

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11.51 Well …boogey woogey for you……I have great taste. Sybaris was a great place….. I grew up….

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But priests within this diocese, no matter how relatively inexperienced, have too much sway here William. Who is calling the shots in Armagh?

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A Derry man ( unionist ) was/is never going to succeed in Armagh/ Tyrone ( Nationalist). Its the difference between rugby and cricket and its all homoerotic ( nothing to do with who or who not is married ). Give me Armagh anyway….no guile.

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The ‘power struggle’ that continues to haunt St Pats has actually heightened tensions between the two feuding priests instead of coming together – will O’Neill win his latest battle and get rid of another member of staff?

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Treanor is moving EON next month, he is replacing McBride in Crumlin who is moving to St Teresa’s but who is not happy with this at all

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His denial speaks volumes as he refused to be moved to the City before and due to the lack of Clergy he will probably force Treanors hand. Colm likes country life and money too much, and the anonymity

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I have always liked Brad Pitt…..for erotic reason……but in that lovely film where he wants to have his way with a vestal virgin; she declares ‘ I am keeping myself for the gods”….he replies; ” you must find that a one way romance……………..”

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12.34: Mullie, after your failed liaisons in the past, have you found the one you’re looking for? We know you can no longer rely on Rathgar!!!😎😎😍😍🤣🤣!!!

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Does anybody see a possibility of the Archbishop being appointed to a role in Rome? And what accompanying priests might it suit to take with him?

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Well if he was appointed to Rome, his company would have to be someone he relies on, is trustworthy, and has no other duties 🙂

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The position of the nativity and the statue in the picture are messed up by the camera angle. It looks like St Patrick is going to give a gift of a snake to Jesus.

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Fr Gabriel Lyons is an exceptional human being. A classmate of mine….only surpassed by my admiration of Fr. Pat Sheehan whose affinity with social justice is without measure.

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Pat Sheehans cousin Rory is a beautiful man from Ballycastle who unfortunately chose a celibate lifestyle and we do not hear him complaining about his loss of wife or kids

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Dear clergy
Just so you know, every time you make out you’ve given up a wife and children everyone thinks some woman has had a lucky escape. You are none of you the catch you think you are.

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LOLOL, he isn’t the only one, I recall it was D’Arcy, another priest who was on late late show who said he would have been married type.
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Just wondering why hes bringing that up now 😉🤷‍♂️.
In the last few days of this blog which was interesting especially scouts and Silverstream. It’s a signal. I was very surprised that no one followed that up since 2015 re date of photo. My ex supervisor was very involved in boy scouts.
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Re new Archbishop of Glasgow, I sincerely hope it would be an outsider .

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Hi Pat.
Could you do a blog on all the Temper Tantrum Bishops?. But then that would be most of them if not all.

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Typical. Those clerics run amok outside monastery walls. These lads should be like us in the OCSO and follow the rule of St Benedict! So what if I have the odd glass of Jameson and the former abbot used to duck into the Boilerhouse for a bit of fun? At least when the students are away for their holidays I won’t trip over any of the feckers when it’s dark and I’ve had a drink. Admittedly, that was frightfully embarrassing. Anyway, today’s lesson my friends is stick to the rule of St Benedict religiously.

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12.52: Absolutely wonderful. A great admirer and visited his birth place on two occasions…a most beautiful spot in the Dolimites….

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Anon at 1.45pm
PJPI was my favourite Pope. Saw a pic of him in his home town with magnificent mountain scenery. We were all shocked as young schoolboys to hear he died 33 days later.
An omen re christ age🤷‍♂️

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Oh Pat, I believe all is not well in Dublin. The rumours going around are that the two Auxiliaries will not be popular choices with the Priests and that a lot of Parish personal Changes will take place soon and Timmy’s Mommy is getting excited. Oh betty.

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12.57: James Frogs (Dunce): You are so, so wrong. Also the proper spelling is “personnel” changes not “personal”!!! The New Archbishop has to act decisively and put a few upstarts in their place which hesvdoing with great subtle finess, much to the chagrin of some. Froggy, get your facts right. Soyez prudent, soyez tres prudent: nous savons qui vous etes!!

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12.57
How old is this Bartlett? I trust Dermot Farrell’s judgement. I’d be surprised if he asked for or agreed to Bartlett as an auxilliary.

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Personally a pleasant man, professionally a weak ineffectual leader, promoted beyond his ability. He was very kind to Roaree, McCamboy et al, thinks grand gestures will reverse falling church attendances, personally I don’t think anything will. Doesn’t like the light of day being shone on things best left hidden. Not going to let the upstart Bishop of Larne tell him what to do.

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Your list is interesting – I would be interested to see elaboration of “et al”. The time for et al is over. Out in the open!!!

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Whatever about anyone’s preference, I think honesty about these things is refreshing and important. Christianity doesn’t occur in a glasshouse or petri dish. No person goes through their life without experiencing feelings. Experiences of these kinds, as any other, are part of what God does for and with a person. It is not necessary to be living in a strict enclosure (literally or metaphorically) in order to become a Saint.

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The only marriages the clergy have sacrificed through the years have been the ones they broke up with their own adultery.
Of course it’s always the people’s fault, I forgot – just shut up and keep paying!!!

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Canon Gerard Sharkey of Glasgow Cathedral is one to watch. I was at the VEC when he was in Rome in the 2000s. He says his prayers, humble and a good, decent chap. We need men like him to lead the church in Scotland.

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He’s only moderately frilly, though. He believes and is a man of faith—no duplicity at all in him.

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Indeed he is one to watch. Gerard, Tom Kilbride and David Wallace all future leaders of the church in the west of Scotland.

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I’m crying in private, you don’t listen
I thought you lot, were all Christian
My screams fall on silent
My pain is so violent
Why use this platform?
To express my bad form
I know you love me
I hope that you see
In order to love you
I’ve got to love me as you do

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I’ve never been in love and I’m envious of those who have been so I hope if and when it ever crosses your path you all embrace it and run with it

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Being in love is over rated
You don’t miss out when you haven’t dated
The greatest love, is to love yourself
No need to worry, about a shelf
So let’s practice self praise
As Mama Ru rightly says
If you don’t love yourself
How the hell you going to love anyone else

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Due to the profession I never loved anyone as much as my parents. The greatest love of my life left me orphans when they passed.

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Breaking – I hear that Daisy Chain Syndicate Glasgow had a zoom call last night hosted by 2 senior clergy. As a result of this blog possibly?

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Paul and Hughie had the Zoom calls as they are up to their eyes in it both should resign.
+ Keenan will clear Glasgay.

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My mother lives in a south side parish in Glasgow where one of the two ‘senior priests’ is PP
She says the parish all know about his Daisy Chain membership and that people don’t have much respect for him.

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Priests are allowed to have other interests in life we should encourage each other to explore hobbies that make us happy In life, if Tim wants to dress up and sing elvis then so be it, I’m sure he is very adept at it

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I sobbed as my priest lover told me I was not the only woman he made love to and walked away but it was the best thing that ever happened, secret love is not love, it’s lust

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“Outside interests “Archbishop Dermot Farrell. Inherited A farm from an Aunt, in Westmeath in recent years.

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I’m afraid they are I work with many Africans who will shout out ‘backs against the wall’ when I pass them and yet when I call them the N word they all go balistic

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In the name of god where do you work. I would not like to be shopping in Sainsbury’s and be hearing the likes of this

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Not all men who choose not to marry are gay. I have never married and I never had what you call a serious girlfriend even if I had many female friends and I am not gay. Who is to say that Archbishop Martin is not the same. Maybe his calling to serve as a Priest and in later years as a Bishop and Archbishop is a genuine call.

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3.32::A very kind comment amidst the crap spoken and poured out by stupud, girlie, queenie types. A man says he has been in love and because he happens to be Archbishop Martin, Pat allows a complete mockery and sneering of him. I accept the Archbishop’s bona fide on this without the need to think otherwise. There is something horribly nasty when a few disgruntled lazy clerics and a band of non clerical crapheads express their views with such jeering and mockery of the Archbishop. It is unnecessary and very un Christ-like. It’s the behaviour of the school yard bully.

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Feck off and leave my Timmy alone 11:08 am
Once again I see a snipe at my poor wee Timmy, and he after keeping his head down for months waitin for the call to see the black man in Dublin. Feck off and leave him alone. A small wee diocese in the west would suit him well, he can wear all those lovely clothes he bought in Rome. Sure he wouldn’t call the queen his aunt.
He’s had the third Laser surgery now and the brown is almost gone from his nose, my poor wee lad, and him the sainted priest he is.

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Fr O’Neill is not happy about featuring on this blog and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from speculating about the atmosphere in the Presbytery of St Patrick’s

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I miss Stephen Wilson dressed in his Cabin crew uniform attire ✈. The Trolly Dolly 🫂🏳️‍🌈💖

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Only a few months and you’ll see her resplendent in priestly vestments, working the altar as only she could do.

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@4.29 What is any reasonable person supposed to take from your inane comment? You seem to be trying to be witty but failing miserably. The helpful advice is this: stop making comments or wait until you have something sensible to say. You were very foolish to try to be amusing. The gift of humour is not within your grasp.

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Not the marrying type? He could still be waiting for the right girl to come along, Bp Pat. You can be quite sarcastic at times.

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Fr O’Neill is not happy? Neither are the two priests he got rid of before the present incumbent curate came. It was widel known among the vicariate that McAleese could stand up for himself. I wonder if O’Neill will have the cojones to tell Treanor what he promised to say should Treanor try to move him and that was F@@k off. Big lad O’Neill portrays himself to be when he is just a wimp

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Nobody should fear being on this blog of their behaviour is why it should be there is no smoke with no fire

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5.02
What’s the big deal about? Clothes are a convention. Are ypu so insecure in your gender and sexuality that you want to turn convention into an absolute?

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Titties brother is a priest Fr Pat McLaughlin and he’s a great supporter of the LGBT community

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@6:58 LinkedIn isn’t just for professionals. It enables religious to have a look at some talent

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There is probably a difference of opinion there. I daren’t connect, but the lack of a profile picture might suggest it is not used, or perhaps not rightly used. I don’t know.

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The great Chinese philosopher Pei Wei Shi once said that ‘life without woman and love is a bad start to eternal life’ and how wrong was he!

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Hi Pat day a wee prayer for my nerves we were robbed today in the bookies and it’s traumatised me a bit. Have a nice evening x

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I see Downside are moving in at Buckfast as a temporary stop to finding a new home. No mention of what is proposed for Downside.

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Wasn’t able to attend Latin Mass on Christmas day. So I went to whitefriar Church instead. I think that I haven’t been to that church for two decades at least. Its bit more brighter than it was grey inside some 20 years ago. It seems to me that there were some renovations done cos it looked bit modern now from my memory re 1st visit.
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I noticed its a religious order named carmelite. I don’t see them much around in Ireland except for whitefriar Church.

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The Trappists need to be radically overhauled. Back to basics. Make Cistercians Great Again.

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It would be a measure of the human facility to give everyone their proper name; there is a reason we all got one; it is cowardice to take it from anyone.

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8.13
Pat is fine just where he is. The papacy is an illusion…..most bishops believe in two things; themselves and the office ( pope) that appointed them. It is the problem.

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Pat I have just come out of the closet, thank you so much for your help and support it has been invaluable

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A well placed source has told a couple of us priests (not from Glasgow) that John Keenan will not translate to Glasgow. He wouldn’t say who will be appointed but that the new man was told on Friday last but sworn to secrecy. It will be announced in the 3rd week of January.

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