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DID ARMAGH PRIEST DRUG AND ASSAULT A YOUNG MAN?

Reports are coming through of the drugging and sexual assault of a young man by an Armagh priest.

The matter was reported to the police.

EAMON MARTIN knows about the accusation and has all the details given to him.

Armagh’s safeguarding officer AIDAN GORDON has also been involved.

No action has been taken so far against the priest.

He is being treated as a priest “in good standing”.

In fact, it seems that in Armagh being a sexually active gay priests gets you brownie points with Aunty Amy.

DEACON RAPE IN SCOTLAND

From a Scottish priest:

“Pat,


We’ve just learnt today that there are 2 Parish Priests in the Archdiocese of Glasgow who were accused of rape of deacons.


One is historical from 80s and most recent one was in the naughties.


Deacon from 80s left and is now married; the other deacon is a PP.


We’re getting more details over next week or so. I believe Police are currently involved in historical one and that PP was removed for a short period of time but now returned.

Re the allegation from naughties the archdiocese threatened then deacon if he went to police he wouldn’t be ordained.

There are 100,000 less Catholics in Glasgow than there were in 1950.

168 replies on “DID ARMAGH PRIEST DRUG AND ASSAULT A YOUNG MAN?”

Regarding the number of Catholics falling following Vatican II, the only reason they went up again briefly around 2013 was because of the temporary blip caused by immigration from Poland.

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10:41, I do not know this man of whom you speak.
Some Christmas cards took over a week to arrive and others never arrived. They might arrive before the end of 2022!

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Seamus, in NI my sister complained that she only got a Christmas card last Friday even though it was postmarked 4 December!

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Christmas cards still arriving, posted well in advance in this meme country.

Sexual predators covering each others backsides falls into the category of the ‘usual thing,’ grievous though it be to the victims. At this stage I’m not seeing any prospect other than a post collapse rebuild of the Church, which given how society is going, will be very much an experience shared by all. +Eamon Martin really is Mgsr Three Monkeys, seeing, hearing and speaking no evil.

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2:23
Good comment. The culture of cover-up in the Church continues.
A post collapse rebuild of the Church might be closer than people realise.

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++Éamon wrote a letter on 09/March/2021 to +Pat. There was a previous blog story about it. “It’s standard practice not to reply” is incorrect. 2:25, I’m sure++Éamon will accept your apology in writing.
Pax.

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5:18, my point is that ++Eamon did reply.
“I request that anyone who has evidence of wrongdoing by any individual should provide that evidence to the appropriate ecclesiastical and/or civil authorities so that correct procedures can be followed in a just manner for all concerned.”
If people have a distrust of ecclesiastical authorities, they should report their concerns to civil authorities, as advised by ++Eamon.
A priest broke rank before Christmas and reported a safeguarding concern to +Pat. It was a vote of no confidence in his bishop. I have no problem with it. I’ve said many times, if people have a safeguarding concern and they do not trust the diocesan processes, they should report their concerns to the Gardaí or the relevant civil authorities.

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8:56

He did reply but for what purpose, I wonder.
Was it merely a ‘holding’ letter considering it was Bishop Buckley,et al, bringing to his attention a serious matter of concern to many. Oh, I wouldn’t know….
Can I remind you, some people do not trust civil authorities due to their track record historically in issues involving the Church.Some of us are anything but naive, Seamus.
With respect, Seamus, before you or your colleagues seek apologies on behalf of
members of the hierarchy, bear this in mind; many people, including myself as well as a
number of commentators on this blog; are owed apologies from members of the Hierarchy.
I couldn’t careless what rank or how many crosses are before the clerics name-whether its the Pope to the lowest rank in Ecclesiastical life-many of us are due apologies from our supposedly moral leaders, our shepherds, our supposed spiritual fathers. Many of us
are shunned sheep by the Ecclesiastical establishment. Christ Jesus shunned nobody.

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9:49,
True, Christ Jesus shunned nobody. The Ecclesiastical establishment must apologise. They must also change their behaviour. The best apology is changed behaviour.
Pax.

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Why did he leave for though? It was all hush and there are some events he attended in 2020 as a priest and a Red. This doesn’t make sense at all.

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His LinkedIn profile says he keft them in 2019. He seems to have been more a psychotherapist than a priest when he was with them. At least he got fully trained to do something else.

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Totally disagree with your comment. €25k is the average salary for a priest, and works out at €1250 per year of service that TR gave the Reds. Compare that to average salary an Irish Psychotherapist makes €50,580 per year. Now that is a smart move! Compare the facts €25k vs €823,456 salary he could have earned during his time as a religious student and ordained priest. I dislike narrow-minded comments

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Tony wasn’t political enough for the system, he was naive and idealistic. He checked out in 2012.

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1:55, similar to 1:07, we’ll have to post the Christmas cards at Halloween this year to ensure they’ll arrive on time!
An Post are talking of introducing a Tier 2 postal service that will take longer to arrive. God knows how long that one will take!

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Dublin Counselling and Therapy Centre is no longer the quality training required for this profession. It had the edge in the early 90s, and was known for religious and dissatisfied clergy becoming psychotherapists before exiting. Training therapists via zoom makes this even more worrying as is their ambiguous Covid policy for in-house training. The basic course fees at DCTC are €23,200. The cost of my training including books, personal therapy cost €31,400, and most of the shite we learned is totally impractical. Tony was the golden boy at DCTC, a role he did not accomplish within the Redemptorist congregation. I am wondering is Tony going to be a tutor as the course will be offered in Omagh!

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Interesting that Tony is chair of a humanist society and never held a council or leadership role with the Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer.

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After the Stephen Port travesty and injustice the four young gay men and their families received, the church must take these reports seriously.

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Tony Rice was one of three Irish Redemptorists ordained to great fanfare in 2009. The other two were Brian Nolan and Sean Duggan. The Irish Redemptorists are back in business, we were told. Unfortunately, only Brian Nolan is still with them. The other two have left.

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But why did Tony Rice leave, why was there no publicity around it? Who let him go on the Q? What for and why?

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He got married to a woman, now has 2 children and has made a successful private career out of the clergy. Let the man live the next chapter of his life

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Sean Duggan was a mouthpiece for Tony Flannery and had the same heretical views, so I’m glad he’s gone. The last man standing of the three, Brian Nolan, has been made vocations director 🤣

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2.34pm
Tony Flannery has denied the sacramental nature of the priesthood, saying that he no longer believed it had been instituted by Christ, and that it was, in effect, the creation of an elite who usurped power in the Church. I have no idea what he means when he says the Creed and says he believes in an ‘apostolic Church’.
It is quite possible to argue this, of course: it’s a commonplace of Protestant theology, for instance, with Protestants generally rejecting the notion of a sacramental priesthood instituted by Christ, and tending to believe only in the broader ‘priesthood of all believers’. But that’s the thing: that’s a Protestant view, and one completely incompatible with Catholicism.

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5.35
Are you in a position to trace the development of the interconnected concepts of episcopos, presbuteroi (note: plural), diakonos and hiereus over the course of the first four centuries? If not, I suggest you retract your comment which shows up your unfamiliarity with current (the past c.50 years) scholarship in this area and your tendency instead, to apply tribal perspectives on a complicated area.
Did you know, for example, that Jerome (ob.430) has a tendency to use sacerdos and episcopus interchangeably, that presbuteros is more commonly used in its plural form and that a development can be plotted in the early church whereby words used for persons in sacrificial rites in the Hellenistic world (including Judaism) were less frequently applied in relation to positions of leadership in the Christian communities?

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There seems to be such a desperation that some extraordinarily unsuitable men are ordained, but unlike other unsuitable ordinations, the two who left, just departed to do other things, not like fleeing a scene of crime. I suppose the Redemptorists cannot be criticised too strongly given the interesting products of Maynooth.

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Tony is not married and has no children. He is good friends with Sean Duggan, ex CSsR, who is head chaplain in IPS. I believe Tony and Sean did some good ministry. They are moving on with their lives, I miss them, and wish them well.

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A sizeable proportion of the general public view the RCC as an abusive & corrupt organisation based on the proven atrocities revealed in recent decades. It appears to attract an uncomfortably high percentage of both lay & ordained individuals who possess a thirst for various manner of injustice toward others in their communities & they are proactive via any means necessary in justifying & protecting the untenable, the aim being solely to protect the finances of the RCC above all else. That explains why desk men are typically appointed as Bishops in my opinion. It’s all about preserving RCC ill gotten gains above all else & particularly above anybody in the congregation foolish enough to think they are valued & despite the sermons to the contrary once again highlighting that clergy don’t practice what they preach. The backgrounds of the lay individuals that are currently being appointed to replace the shortage of vocations serve to confirm this in various parishes.

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Glasgow figures in 2119 were 189000 and attendance was 32122.
At least a third have not returned yet.
Big Worry.

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In relation to Glasgow:
In 1968, aprox one year after my personal decision to leave third divinity seminary, while still a practising RC follower, instead of my customary Southpark Ave, Glasgow University chaplaincy Sunday Mass, I went to Sunday Mass in a downtown area populated previously by largely Irish immigrants.
In his sermon, the priest spoke such “schit” ( not just contrary to then orthodox RC belief, but in the main, focused on an excessively haranguing manner of extracting extra parish finances), that afterwards I went to sacristy and attempted to ask him to explain.
He spluttered dismissive disbelief (that I, in his eyes a mere layperson) should in any way question him, and then when I referred to my recent seminary understanding of theological matters he had erroneously referred to, he just spluttered hostile dismissive comment to effect that “It’s no wonder people like you get “kicked out.” His entirely ad hominem attack was a watershed moment in my departure, initially from RC orthodoxy, and subsequently, from all religious beliefs.
And 50 years+ later, I’ve certainly no regrets.
I see little evidence that much has changed in the clerical mindset, and certainly no relevant evidential proof of the religious farrago they propose. They still talk “pious schit.”
MMM

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“afterwards I went to sacristy and attempted to ask him to explain.”
MMM, you are to blame for that disastrous confrontation. You knew full well who you were provoking. If you are looking for trouble, you will find it. You were most definitely looking for trouble. Sure the padre could have engaged in conversation about is right. You were both like a dog and a bold pup. All bark and no bite.
Pax.

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10.08
Seamus from Mayo.ie has displayed very poor judgment in this post. The priest’s sermon is designed, by its nature, to elicit a response in the minds and hearts of those who hear it. What else do you think a homily is?
MMM was perfectly correct in responding to the stimulus as he did. If you don’t agree you are suffering from a worse strain of clericalism than is normally on show here.
If you listened with your heart to what MMM has written here you would see that the homily was the negative stimulus which resulted in at least one hearer leaving the church, and more tragically, abandoni g faith in God, although, of course, God has not abandoned him.
While the priest in question may not have intended the dire consequences of his sermon that day, he should have been more measured and less abrasive. In short, his homily should have been based on the Gospel.
The worst aspect of modern liturgy is the homily.

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3:39,
On the topic of Mayo, the new Bekan Air Dome will be a suitable venue, should the ++ to be in Tuam decide to host a Great Mass for the province after these pandemic times.
Regards your comment 3:39, the padre could have engaged in a conversation about what is right with the cheeky pup. MMM was looking for trouble however and trouble is what he got.
Pax.

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5.24
Not at all a convincing or persuasive retort. Your judgment, in this instance, is flawed. Lack of prudence and lack of discernment, therefore, are very likely hallmarks of many of your postings here. The sermon was a public event delivered coram populo. Ergo, the respondant was entitled to be deliver his answer in the presence of the initial speaker and others.
To characterise, even to caricature MMM’s response as ‘looking for trouble’ is already to operate from a prejudicial perspective. In the dialogical and dialectical Socratic method, truth is to be found in the conversation. You failedto recognise that a response was required and, happily delivered.
Since you insist on appending the word ‘pax’ to many of your (ill-judged) responses, you should know the word has a long traditionin Hebrew, Greek and Latin milieux. For peace to flourish justice must precede it.

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9:02 & 9:31
Rev “Seamus” (Emeritus) is reflecting his own approach( psychology) to such situations.
He is no more in Co. Mayo than the man in the moon.

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Thank you @ 9:02.
It been interesting to see the range of response comments.
“By their deeds you will know them….” or words?
Matthew 7:16
MMM

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9.31
A pathetically inadequate comment which shows up your poor judgment in this case, and more likely, in general.

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MMM, who give you the right to barge into the sacristy and harangue the priest. If you had manners you would have made an appointment or phoned or wrote to him. I suspect you were a precocious child.

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10.53
The homily was a public event. The preacher deserves to know how his words are being received by the congregation. The closer to the end of Mass the better. MMM did the preacher a favour.

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4.21
A homily is intended to cause the worshipper to think. Jesus’ parables had and have the same objective.

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Who do you think you are, MMM? I am starting to doubt if you were a sem. Why would you be going to Sunday Mass in a university chaplaincy? Surely you’d be at your Community/seminary Mass? Memory playing tricks?

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He said he normally went to the chaplaincy Mass. Why didn’t he normally go to Mass in his Community/seminary?

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1:22 am
MMM, I like your comment from your experience. Challenging the priest is a no-no.
The priest is always right even when wrong due to the culture of clerical arrogance.
Look where clerical arrogance lead!

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Those secret kinky desires wouldn’t be a foot fetish and the wearing of ladies tights/leggings now would it?

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The population of Glasgow in 1950 was over a million. Today it is around 635,000, so the proportion that is Catholic is roughly similar.. I suspect, however, that there’s a significantly smaller number practising.

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In most cities there has been a flight to the suburbs and surrounding towns, but the archdiocese is not co-terminous with the Glasgow city boundary. The total population in the archdiocese’s territory has increased.

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If you have an active sex life as a priest you get sent to Armagh which is why I’m surprised half of Belfast have not been sent. I would name genuine names but you never publish them.

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A Journalist will not cover the story or they would be publishing it every week.
The person to contact signed for post is the Papal Nuncio as it seems both are Homophobic and inform him you are coping the Congregation for Clergy in this issue.

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Scots Lass
Glasgow Population is 635640 of which 216 000 say they are Roman Catholics. (29.4%)
Parish returns for 2019 say 635640 with Roman Catholics being 189000 (19.8%).
Parish census last Sunday of November 2019 189000 and attendance 32122 (6%)
So 90 Churches and 89 Parishes cannot continue as this is pre covid.

Two parishes celebrate the Latin mass and the new Archbishop will need to address this as they are in parochial churches.

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You are right about the need to do something about the number of parishes and churches. Archbishop Tartaglia did a consultation several years ago, but never followed through. I had always thought his predecessor Archbishop Conti had been drafted in from Aberdeen to deal with the issue. It might have been a little easier for him than for a Glasgow man, but he did little to address the situation. I believe Bishop Keenan also did a consultation in Paisley but hasn’t followed through. The next Archbishop of Glasgow won’t have his sorrows to seek

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He can give him one of the 40 soon to be redundant Novus Ordo churches. The elderly Novus Ordo congregations have been scared witless by all the covid measures in churches and the taped off areas, screens, hand sanitisers etc. They won’t be coming back.
The younger congregations at the TLM will carry on attending.

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oul Gossip Alert @ 10:36am

OMG, Jim S. has surpassed herself pouring over all those books an directories to impart to us all this unwanted and useless information. I suppose it makes her feel important.

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1.23
It is a relief, from an Irish perspective, that Bela Lugosi has turned out to be a Scot and do a product of Scotland’s religious tradition.
There are very few, if any other Sedevacantists in Ireland. I’d be very surprised to hear an Irish person refer to Pope Francis in the terms employed by Bela.
It’s also a relief to think the Irish educational system is not responsible for Bela’s low literacy level.
And the hypocrital mixture of Brla’s invoking the Blessed Mother while using vulgarities à propos other Christians. Not an Irish matter, thankfully.

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3:57
Sorry to ‘burst your bubble’, but Bela Lugosi aka Bellarmine aka Bella is very much Irish,
so it is very much an Irish matter. I hope this does not cause too much distress.

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5.47
She/He may have been born in Ireland (and we know what the Duke of Wellington said) but they are living in Scotland. Two details he/she and Jim S. have in common.

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7:24
Wishful thinking on your part. Brace yourself, for this may cause you distress; Bela Lugosi
is domiciled in Ireland; I know the city; I know the church Bela attends; I have a very accurate idea of Bela’s age. However, I will respect Bela’s privacy. ‘Tis a small world.

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8.49
Bela is a sedevacantist (Observe the vulgar way they refer to the Bishop of Rome.) and has no business patronising Harrington Street.

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9:27
Who mentioned patronizing Harrington St? People from the sticks often visit the big smoke.

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Oul Gossip Alert @ 3:57pm
OMG! Nettie aka Jim S. what a fantasist you are. I’m just in after calling in to see friends, only to see you’ve given me a new nationality. You really need help you’re always going on about Glasgow but you don’t live in Glasgow. You live in a very low coastal town known as Shitey Shores in North Ayrshire, where you are very well known, as the gossip of all gossips and they still talk about your political aspirations which came to nothing when your criminal convictions came to light. As for you being an Irish man living in Scotland, you’ve never been in Ireland in your life. Thanks be to God, I tell you in charity get the psychiatric help you so sorely need. I’m just off the phone to the people who unfortunately do know you who have confirmed everything I’ve said.

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Yes, report it to Merseyside Police Referrals or the Liverpool Civil Courts – together with any evidence. . . 🙄

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40 years of silence and then the man comes forth…. when evidence is scant… memory hazey…
My question is why come forward to +Pat and not the PSNI?

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Not Dermot Farrell going in for a bit of victim blaming. Those who are abused don’t forget, in my experience.

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Does memory embellish?
Does trauma cause neurotic responses that impact memory?

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Priest engaging in sex on an altar, priest driving to rendezvous in order to abuse baby, priest pulling his todger in a seaside car park, priest cruising lay-bys, lorry parks and open air gay sex sites……and now a priest drugging and raping a young man. There is surely evidence enough to close the whole show down ?!

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It’s time to investigate ex Fr Tony Rice, his Reds connections, why he left and what he is doing now, but, he has secrets that can harm a lot of people left in the ‘firm’

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Eamon Martin failed to start the HIV and Drug Testing of his Clergy. Pat the drug usage among Armagh Clergy is interconnected with gay sex network of you know who. Let be clear, they started with Poppers in Maynooth and moved to Class A Drugs.

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Sadly the Poppers were Part of the Subculture’s Rituals in Maynooth. The Armagh lads were a holy terror for distribution on St Mary’s Corridor in Maynooth Seminary. Pat look more into this.

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Nobody in Maynooth refers to “St Mary’s Corridor”. There are multiple corridors in the St Mary’s building but you wouldn’t know that. You’re a fantasist.

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The Irish Catholic newspaper falsely reported yesterday that the poor are a priority in Irish parishes – our parish committees are full of local accountants, solicitors, retired teachers & revenue staff complicit in gleefully accepting for the church money & land donated by influential locals who have blatantly built wealth by exploiting other vulnerable parishioners by fraudulent means. Ill gotten gains. Another form of abusive practice proactively aided & abetted by church management.

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10.22: Find an, if you’re brave enough and really concerned you shoukd name the parish. The reality is that it’s very difficult to find people to commit to parish groups. We sometimes have to personally ask people to come in board…Nothing wrong with that. I often wonder if observers like you (a good observer) offer your services to parish communities when requests for volunteers are made? If not, why not? I try my utmost to be very inclusive and non discriminatory. However on finance and management committees we do need a certain professionalism.

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Offer every man in the parish the chance to be a permanent deacon and they’ll all volunteer, as long as they get to dress up and call themselves “Reverend Mr”.

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Why is there such cover up of the two priests relationship that fell apart over infidelity of all reasons

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If they insist on ordaining gay men, the bishops will have to accept that young men are at greater risk.

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Fintan @ 10.22 – What cave have you crawled out from?? – why bother yourself about them – everyone knows most of them are just a shower of pompous, over educated, self-indulgent and self interested gossips and spin doctors who wouldn’t work to warm themselves so they rely heavily on the sponsorship of the socially elites you refer to in your post & will engage in whatever it takes to protect what matters to them & it’s definitely not what they see as eejit parishioners who have no substantial money to give them so are mainly a source of targetted mockery for them. Face facts.

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Sorry, but if it has taken an adult man 40 years to report a sexual assault, it will not go far. It’s hard to get a conviction for a recent sexual assault. I am sceptical.

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12:09
You might be surprised. There remains lots of unanswered questions/details on the issue.
It is very common for sexually abused victims to report many years later.

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You are right about the need to do something about the number of parishes and churches. Archbishop Tartaglia did a consultation several years ago, but never followed through. I had always thought his predecessor Archbishop Conti had been drafted in from Aberdeen to deal with the issue. It might have been a little easier for him than for a Glasgow man, but he did little to address the situation. I believe Bishop Keenan also did a consultation in Paisley but hasn’t followed through. The next Archbishop of Glasgow won’t have his sorrows to seek

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It’s amazing that there are no commebts on the Armagh incident. Are we all so accustomed to it that it gets no reaction?

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@12.55pm I just think people are fed up reading this story yet again. It’s old news and nothing new. What more is there to say on the matter that hasn’t already been said?

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Is this not a new incident(s)? I thought it was. People might ask why the accused priest has been suspended and/or the diocese made a statement.

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2:51, Names need to be named; people need to be held to account. I assume that this is what Bishop Pat is preparing for.

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No, you’re talking about a denomination where all the bishops covered up crime on the instructions of their superiors. A mere rape is neither here nor there.

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Visited Glasgow back then for celtic fc FA cup semi finals. It was my first time to visit that place. I found Glasgow bit rough in some areas. Hotel advised us not to wear green jerseys or celtic jersey when going out except for Hampden Park game. It was tough place allright as we went to one famous pub where all football jerseys of various club were hanged up high.
Anyway,, numbers for Catholics in Glasgow looks bit dodgy for 2016 and 2019 after a successive decline in years prior to that.
I reckon figures are a lot lower than that due to legacy of KOB and daisy chain, Despard et al.
Have no sympathy for Bishop of Glasgow cos he has an asymmetry of information in contrast to ourselves with little info. He knows more of what’s going on inside Glasgow clergy and sems but at the same time, we as laity hold our monies with little information at hand. Diocese of Glasgow want our money with nothing in return for ourselves with no info along with no accountability in fiscal and legal moral responsibility. This is a very lopsided situation where there is no equality of power or information shared between Bishop of Glasgow and cash paying laity.
For the sake of analogy, diocese of Glasgow plus all dioceses are bit like branch offices or cost centres of the Vatican in terms of varying degrees re size and money etc.

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1.33: Deaf Guy: are you ever a happy person? Do you intend to go through the rest of your life carrying bags of angst, comaunts, dusgruntlement, nasty barbs, threats of all kinds…It is difficult to imagine that you could be hilarious company!!! More despair and tears than laughter or brightness…

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Anon at 2.56pm
Did I strike a nerve there?💯
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Coming from an abused background, is to hold rcc to account re their wrongful actions. I’m sure that you don’t hold them to account and give rcc a massive leeway, is that your itrue intention 🤷‍♂️👅
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Given the stories coming from rcc Scotland, its in almost total cesspit, 🤭🤭🤭.
Anyway, these bishops can’t be trusted whatsoever given the fact they won’t listen to the scandalous on goings of double lives of these priests, bishops (not all priest though).
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KOB brought it all down re rcc Scotland’s reputation. Its tarnished, damaged goods, incalculable lasting damage, whatever adjective you could apply to. Rcc bishops in Scotland brought it on all to themselves re their decisions.
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Thats why I said I have no sympathy for them. Still they want our laity cash for nothing in return, did I strike a nerve there that you didn’t like 🙈😜🤑.
BTW, frankie refuse lid to visit Scotland for reasons unknown to ourselves. Perhaps he didn’t want to be questioned on the state of rcc Scotland, legacy of KOB and how did he get that RED hat, just saying👅🤷‍♂️.

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Sock it to them DG! Those begrudgers attacking you don’t like hearing anything which doesn’t conform to their perceptions. And those are, …?.Well, shall I say, …….limited.
While I don’t agree with all you say, the general thrust of your comments seem balanced, sound, and informed from intelligent analysis of your own experiences.
Keep it up, or as we Norn Irelanders say, “Keep ‘er lit.”
MMM

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1.13
The (Arch)bishop of Glasgow died almost a year ago, so you can save your sympathy, or lack thereof.

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The statistics for Glasgow Archdiocese is misleading. The total population of Glasgow has shrunk because of regeneration. The old tenements have been demolished and people moved out to East Kilbride,(Motherwell Diocese), and other areas of Scotland. Ah yes, people like me who moved to London for work. Lots of us moved for work down south because of shipyard closures, factory and steel work closures. Let us face the facts, Glasgow City has shrunk despite the burgh of Rutherglen and the district of Baillieston being absorbed.
IGarngad Lad

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DG @ 3:52
You’re a laugh a minute, thanks be to God when you were in Scotland you never spied a prelate wearing the Cappa Magna. We’d never have heard the end of it.😏

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Anon at 4.07pm

LOLOL re mention of cappa Magna. Had a great time in Glasgow, watching celtic, drinking beers all afternoon and evening , playing snooker in some pub bit rough on way back from Hampden Park. What topped it all was that we won the grand national bet on that day as it was a fluke. Some of that bet winnings were spent on one off drink for everyone in bar. There wasnt many people there, however it was a enjoyable night out for us as group.

Not once did I or we visit rcc church nor did we look at it that weekend. We didn’t even think
about it. We all avoided it cos one off the cuff remark from a die hard prod fan sent us packing. We realised eventually, he was right for our own safety

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Anonymous @ 10.50
I cannot believe that you are naive enough to believe that there is only one parish in which this might happen. It sounds as if you are a priest trying to run your parish to be best of your ability but I do appreciate that it must be difficult to achieve inclusiveness when a proportion of your lay volunteers persist in utilising their church related status in communities for advantage in their outside professional or business interests. Indeed, transparency, prior to and during appointments is essential to avoid such conflicts of interest that can be off putting to other parishioners you might seek to engage. It’s a difficult ball to balance, all things considered, for sure. I hope you have a Peaceful & Happy New Year in 2022 in your vocation.

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Pat are you aware that your friend Patricia McKeever has published her Catholic Truth newsletter with a lead article on Deacon Chris Morris and the Motherwell situation? You and the blog get a mention. I find you and her an odd pairing as you surely realise she hates gay people and is utterly opposed to gay rights???

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The same issue includes these very telling lines from the Curé d’Ars:
‘What is a priest! A man who holds the place of God—a man who is invested with all the powers of God.’

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I was reading the other day that the self-appointed religious adviser to the tendentious film ‘Philomena’ was an English, Anglican lady vicar. Is it any wonder that a film about pre-Conciliar Irish Catholicism was so inaccurate?

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They where places of great and immense cruelty, especially the Magdalene worker/homes. They were torture chambers.
People are still alive nowadays who were abused and all kinds at them places.
How very inconsiderate of you @ 5:22pm

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6.57: Many women found much kindness in these homes, more than they did from passers by who knew the awfulness of these places but acquiesced by their silence. Nothing can ever justify any abuse in whatever era. Yet, we as a society allowed religious, who, in many instances were not properly or professionally formed to be child carers. Very often the religious in the 20’s – 50’s were quite young, untrained and without proper qualifications. Yet, many religious went on to become pioneers in education, healthcare, medicine, social work, justice issues…What are our neglects today which cause great hurt, pain and struggle to children, young people and families? Drugs, addictions, homelessness, inadequate mental health resources and centres, lack of educational opportunities for those still trapped in poverty and socially disadvantaged areas, lack of resources for children with special needs…..We must never think or believe that we are a “great caring” society…

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https://cruxnow.com/church-in-europe/2022/01/vatican-to-probe-cologne-finances-once-cardinal-returns-from-sabbatical
Vatican to probe Cologne finances once cardinal returns from sabbatical
By Elise Ann Allen
Jan 8, 2022 |Senior Correspondent
” ROME – Earlier this week the troubled German Archdiocese of Cologne announced that the Vatican has agreed to conduct an external audit into its contracts once the archbishop of the diocese returns from a papal-mandated sabbatical.
The audit will investigate canonical legality in the awarding of contracts over the past ten years, a diocesan statement said.”

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There’s enough heresy on this blog already without imporing more from the Mormons.

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I am a baptised Christian, you tell me…
“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.”
1 Peter 2:9

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7:12. He might be another peculiar priest gone rogue? There is no shortage of priests out of ministry. It’s a great video. 😊

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7.12: Are you the commenter who daily asks the question, “..Are you a priest..?” What is the significance of this recurring, nonsensical question? Answer on a stamp…it’s about as far as your intelligence stretches…but, pray, tell us why you keep asking…

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What a load of old nonsense from an old lady dressed as a French priest – it is idolatory and it is heretical.
We are invited to become one (attonement = become at one with). We are invited into the mystery of God’s presence, His essence even; it is an invitation to journey with the Lord, if you like and, to attain in the likeness of our God, (always in, and through, Christ Jesus).
And God is love, truth and light.
That which is opposed to love, light and truth is opposed to God — it is not of the light. Their own rules and laws; they work in darkness and are therefore blind the the reality of God, whom is love, truth and light.
“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”
2 Peter 1:4

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+Amy must know what she’s doing, Bp Pat. In the meantime, I hope you have something a little more jolly for us next week, an update on Miss Sheehan, perhaps, or complete medical history of the bishop of Kilmore.

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Todays blog & in particular posts @ 2.23, 2.25, 6.42 & 6.57 mention patterns of behaviour from clergy such as
“See, hear, speak, no evil”. “Do not reply to concerns raised”, “homily designed to provoke thought/response”, “victim blaming”, “Magdalene Mother & Baby Homes akin to torture chambers”. So basically, we are looking at a controlling and abusive mindset that seeks to dictate how we think as long as that fits with their objective, that utilises the above methods & gaslighting toward anyone that questions them & this seems to be a uniform approach across the board looking at a wider range of responses. It adds a whole new meaning to the term “keep safe”. Defending the indefensible seems par for the course in the RCC worldwide.

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9:17 RCC clerical fraternity must stop cherry picking the gospel. “If you believe what you like in the gospels,and reject what you don’t like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. ” Saint Augustine.

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8.29
Rubbish. A homily is designed to get a person thinking for themselves. As Jesus’ parables. That’s not control. It’s called educating someone. Did you miss the main point in many other comments today?

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Pat, Can any of your Scottish clergy correspondents tell us what was the problem that caused Mgr Tom Miller to stand down from SD at Oscott after a few weeks.

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All Francis needs now is a letter to an abortion activist saluting her ‘witness’ or whatever. However, that box was largely ticked by awarding the order of St. Gregory the Great to Liliane Ploumen, Belgian politician and abortion activist. Surely a award for Emma Bonino, a noted friend who boasted of 20,000 abortions? Perhaps not, his strategic silences whenever there is a legalisation effort, plus his open hostility to any pro-life politician, are good enough for his corporate owners like Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos.

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That jibe generally comes from supporters of abortion. I strongly suspect I do far more in way of charity than you anon. Child dismemberment (which is what a late term abortion is), and all abortion, supported by the tax payer is an atrocity, Nothing, not even the sinecures to the pals of Leo comes close, for it involves the death of children.

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9.17 – I won’t bother about the Anglican’s but Thanks for the suggestion anyway. I’ll wait & see would I get a cancellation on the Daniel O’Donnell Cruise 🤣🤣. Worth a Wager, I’d say, old chap.

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11.26
From your post at 11.19 it’s safe to conclude you’ve had little to do with educators, of the transparent (whatever that means) kind or otherwise. Or if you did, much went over your head.

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