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KILMORE PRIESTS ORDERED NOT TO PRAY FOR ABSENT BISHOP !!!

THE IRISH CATHOLIC
HAYES

IMAGINE !

A VICAR GENERAL.

A MONSIGNOR

TELLING THE PRIESTS OF THE DIOCESE NOT TO PRAY FOR A BISHOP WHO HAS SUDDENLY GONE ABSENT !!!

KELLY

The Bishop, Martin Hayes had circulated the priests saying he was taking a leave of absence “on medical advice”.

Some of the priests MADE THE MISTAKE of praying for their bishop at Mass.

And the diocesan authorities were enraged!

Priests are bound to pray for the bishop at Mass.

Priests always pray for the sick at Mass.

But they do are not allowed to pray out loud for their sick bishop ???

Of course we are all entitled to medical privacy. It’s Article 8 of the Human Rights Convention

Mind you, Judge Horner ignored that right when he made my illness public in a Belfast Court room.

So we do not need to know about the bishop’s diagnosis or treatment.

But an Irish Catholic bishop is about as public as a person can be.

The priests and laity are entitled to know their bishop is unwell and on leave.

By not saying the bishop is sick it has given rise to widespread speculation.

Is it an ingrown toenail? Is it a heart attack? Is it a mental breakdown? cancer ? syphilis?

This is all part of the RCC’s modus operandi – secrecy, lies, cover up, lack of transparency.

Going on leave when you have been a bishop of a place for only a year is suspicious.

People are, understandably wondering if a scandal is being covered up.

AND LIAM KELLY

The days are gone when clerics can bind Irish people to silence and secrecy !!!

145 replies on “KILMORE PRIESTS ORDERED NOT TO PRAY FOR ABSENT BISHOP !!!”

1877 Vestment Bench, Donegal Street, Belfast. Wow ! The Priorities of his Twitter account……buildings…..et al. But the 1877 Vestment Bench……what a save…….

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What’s wrong with restoration ? The original donators would be thrilled no? Or are you one of “those” who prefer plywood SH1T ?

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One needs written permission to pray for anyone who is sick under GDPR legislation in the Republic of Ireland…..but then who expects that organisation and its adherents to be up to speed with the necessary……the written permission of the one who is sick or their next of kin/relational. Never stopped a rodent or a hatted rodent……

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Next thing Bileen will be claiming that people can’t appear in the news or on blogs unless they’ve given permission under GDPR. 😂

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That’s anti-Catholic and it’s certainly anti-christian. If any child of God is in crisis — then the community are to pray for that person or persons. And if any persons soul is in any kind of spiritual danger — it is a mortal sin to willingly standby eny prayer and supplication, for grace l, to
“… what man is there of you, whom if his son asks for bread, will he give him a stone? or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent?
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?”
Matthew 7: 9-11

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Fair play to you, Pat, you broke the news first and the Irish Catholic plays catch up, as they did with other exclusives. They should make you editor!

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The silliness of all this is the attempt to silence people. Lack of transparency. There’s absolutely no issue with a bishop taking sick leave, regardless of how long he’s in the job. Bishops and popes are human beings.
This nonsense is reminiscent of the popes’ not being seen eating or not eating in company until Francis.

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There are plenty of photos and videos of Benedict eating in his modest dining room in the palace. Frank’s problem is that he eats too much. He sits in a roped off area of the ref in the casa. He’s the size of John XXIII now.

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12.37. Palace is the name of the building, the Apostolic Palace. It is just the name for an official residence of certain dignataries, including bishops. Pat’s house in Larne is a palace, in that sense, as is the farmhouse used by Bishops of Clonfer.
The private rooms in the papal apartment in the Apostolic Palace are modest and simple, dowdy even, but Frank, in an early stunt, spurned them and instead has taken over an entire floor of the case and had the Vatican spend €2m on buying and emtying properties on the street outside that overlooked him.

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They’ve put in bit potted plants to screen him off and people are warned not to approach him or speak to him. The deacons and servers in St Peter’s are also warned not to speak to him. They might get a slap from the only pope in history known to hit someone, especially a woman.

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+Martin Hayes was the first Irish bishop at a climate change conference (the hot air from that likelier a bigger cause of global warming than 1000 Chinese coal fired stations). Apart from his industrially focussed degree, he has an MA in Theology (Ecology and Religion). I doubt therefore he was secretly offering a private traditional Mass. Perhaps scandals. Anyhow, I think I will defy those authorities and pray for him.

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Certainly. Farmers can, and often are, the best custodians of the land. Urban virtue signallers just talk and sneer. The main thing is what did the bishop do to not even merit prayers? If there is wrongdoing, wrongdoers still deserve prayers. It’s so weird.

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Imagine the bishop of a diocese feeling he doesn’t owe anyone an explanation for his actions and ‘ordering’ secrecy and scilence: and of course Hayse is one of the ‘nice, modern, pastoral ones’. Seems he treats his priests with the same contempt as he treated seminarians in Thurles. The facade has collapsed.

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Indeed, imagine saying that the priests didn’t have to be informed, it was just a courtesy. Who does he think he is?

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It was mentioned on this blog a few weeks ago that three Irish seminarians committed suicide. Was there ever an investigation into any of these suicides?

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Indeed; strange, corrupt, and riddled with corruption! ” I tell you, He answered, if they remain silent, the very stones will cry out”. Luke 19:40.

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A scandal would be preferable to illness, Bp Pat, although syphilis is treated with antibiotic injections in the buttocks or tablets.

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Also, they should avoid any kind of sexual activity or close sexual contact with another person until at least 2 weeks after treatment finishes.

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Of course, it could be cosmetic surgery which may account for the secrecy surrounding the whereabouts of the bishop.

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He also enjoyed watching hotel movies charged to his room bill and paid for by taxpayers courtesy of his expenses. Eddie McGrady always picked an expensive hotel at Horseguards to stay.

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Would it be completely wrong to think that this absence might have something to do with a Safeguarding issue ? I mean, it seems to follow the usual playbook of the Catholic Church when dealing with priests who have been accused of something like that – they just disappear, they aren’t mentioned, no information is given, everything is kept under wraps. Then months, perhaps years, down the line you suddenly find that the matter has worked its way through and the police or other authorities make a charge, or say there is not charge to be answered. How many priests do you know who just disappear like this. I know lots. There is something fishy going on here, something more than the tardy mention on him being ill. Watch this space.

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This is where the playbook backfires on them and an absence supposedly for illness looks like a safeguarding matter.

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Perception is everything. Was there a failure to cover all bases in the narrative?
Oh, sorry. Mea culpa. They thought they could shut everyone up. As if!

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Maybe I’m picking up your tone wrong Patsy but it seems you’re pointing the finger at Hayes here, when it ought to be Kelly.

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McBrearty is fuming at his exposure on this blog as his street cred has took a massive dive with the inmates that ‘respect’ him so much

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11.30 Don’t worry about his typo. Stephen will understand the dialect being from the heart of wee West Belfast. The Falls

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It’s unusual to see that but bishops for ya plus irish Catholic paper whose PR had lagged behind the times. A disjoint one eh?
Isnt the same Martin Long 🤷‍♂️
BTW, I was sickened to see this blog speak ill of the dead recently.

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My friends & I only recently became aware of your blog, Bishop Pat & it is such a relief to have verification that the things we could see & experience that were/are going on in the Church are also recognised beyond the narrow minded sphere of the small congregations we live in around the country. We were all brought up as regular mass goers but all generally find that many of the people that do go to Mass in our communities are best avoided in the interests of ones physical and mental well being & that some of them use this contact to cross boundaries that are unacceptable for anyone to cross in normal society & that frequently breach the rights & dignity of others by those who definitely “know better” but try it on under the auspices & umbrella of the Church & with the support of clergy. That said, we are now enjoying your daily online mass and wonder if you will be opening branches of your Larne Oratory in other parts of Ireland? Thank you & God Bless you for all that you do to create a safer space for those of us that do not wish to be entirely pushed away from practicing our religion by the bad eggs who have infiltrated it as described above.

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@6:06: Of course you and your friends have an extremely serious credibility problem. We don’t believe you…..😂

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11.00AM. You have no hope of getting your nasty mitts on Fr Michael Collins new parish. He is settling in well and doing a good job. Move on or move out. 😇😇😇

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Bishop bling spends millions on his palace. God knows how much O’Neill spent on the vestment bench. Shows where D&C priorities are

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The modern Catholic church is profligate. Millions have been raised for Maynooth and the former seminaries, including the one in Belfast, and countless millions have been spent on reordering churches, new vestments and in abuse compensation (with the abusive priests also spending wildly on reorderings, eg Weakland).

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The article linked above is very funny and full of the kind of faux drama you read on this blog all the time.
‘It could be the only Victorian vestment cabinet left in the world’.
‘The furniture restorer’s trade is dead and he is the only one left’.
‘I know nothing of the mysterious history of this’.
Is this level of drama an Irish cultural thing? It must be like living in a soap opera and absolutely exhausting. If it is it would explain a lot of what you read on this blog.

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Bishoo Hayes has for whatever reason chosen to be private about his absence. I believe if it is to be a long term absence, his Diocese needs to know and have a right to know. It is very wrong for any of us to assign motives to his absence especially those which are sinister in their implication re: safeguarding issues. These words alone in reference to any cleric are very loaded and almost designed to create the narrative of criminal wrongdoing. We should wait until the full truth is known before judging or speculating. It is, I believe, contrary to natural justice to engage in biased speculation simply because he’s a Catholic Bishop.

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‘The bishop is taking a leave of absence from the diocese for personal reasons and thanks you for your prayers. In his absence the diocese will be administered by….’
It really isn’t difficult.

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Bishop Hayes sent that kind of email to his Clergy and Monsignor Liam Kelly will administer the Dioceses Of Kilmore as Vicar general.

The Bishop does not want to make his illness pubic however he should be more open and transparent.

Archbishop Kevin McDonald stood down very early and was young as he has cancer but he is still alive but he did the honourable thing so I think maybe Bishop Hayes is await results.

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What a wonderful slip
‘The Bishop does not want to make his illness pubic’.
The trouble is, 2:54, he sent that kind of email to the clergy only.

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@2.54pm Amy McDonald has never had cancer you fool. It’s staggering the amount of misinformed caca some idiots post on here.

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Seamusviii
The previous Bishop has retired and they do not bring them back out.
Some of the replacement Bishops do not even allowed Emeritus cardinals, Archbishops or Bishops to go to Diocesan events. (more so Amy Martin)

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3:23
You don’t say! Why so?
No more loving in the summer.
But there’s plenty of soap for making suds.

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Ordered not to pray? That’ll be easy for most of them, Bp Pat, and give them more time to think about men.

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A young priest committed suicide in Birmingham – 15-20 years ago. My God the Omertà around his suicide was remarkable and exposed a deeply dysfunctional and incompetent clergy (at ever level). The priests first name was Sean and the clergy just buttoned up and bottled it – the priest was never mentioned again along the lines of don’t mention the war – for so called ‘experts in humanity’ they are truly shite when the shite hits the fan and run for cover with no sense of explaining or teaching or pastoral responsibility to help people during a difficult time.

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I was at Oscott with Sean Farrell. He was a quiet but good man. I think he struggled when he left the seminary and took to drink. Very sad.

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Poor man … RIP. I hope that the Bishop and Diocese paid for his funeral and are looking after his family. Scroll down in the article and look at the Church sign in relation to car parking. All seems odd.

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There’s all kinds of health and safety wrong going on in that article. Now wait for the bitchy comment saying you can only expect a few deaths and child rapes in the course of a mass and I’m being unreasonable!

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Pat, a complete stranger driving a van from a well known company was photographing
my home and entrance to my property 45 minutes ago. I have had interference to my WiFi,
( I have plenty of evidence). If this continues I will name names, dates, who, what, where, when, why and how. Be very careful. You know who you are, the issues, and location
in this country. If any harm comes to me or anyone belonging to me…You are warned!!!

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Tell me more. I wasn’t aware. Will have to check out the craic at O Toole’s this weekend Amazing what a fellow can find out there.

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“Greater Manchester Police officer charged over indecent images.”
A police officer has been charged with possessing indecent images of children.

Thomas Woods, a police constable based at Greater Manchester Police’s Salford unit, was arrested on Wednesday.

The 33-year-old, who has been suspended from his duties, was charged with one count of possession of an indecent photograph or pseudo photograph of a child.

He has been bailed to appear before Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court on 13 January.
.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-59690047

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Leave him alone, it was only one image. Not like he had loads.
He should be released and all charges dropped!

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3.55pm

If Seab struggled after leaving seminary he should have been better cared for and his suicide averted – clearly he felt he unsupported and alone – which makes sense because the same dysfunction and incompetency prevailed after his death – same old playbook – say nothing, pretend it never happened, don’t speak of this again.
God help ya if ya only have recourse to a RCC priest and are in the shite!
No wonder they turn to drink!!

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On behalf of Bishop Hayes’s family, remove that offensive photo of him with a bandage. Pat, you have absolutely no right or authority or moral justification for your ignorance, nastiness and deranged attitude to people infinitely mire worthy than you. Go and pray for guidance. And pray that you’ll desist from being a little spiteful god.

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Pat at 8.54: Have a little human charity for Martin Hayes. Wouldn’t you want some privacy if you were quite ill or waiting for results of a diagnosis? You should not mock or denigrate the sick, irrespective of who they are. Would you like if your relative was mocked and caricatured while sick? Try Christ’s compassion.

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@ 11:55 pm Doing The Work of The Devil on The QT Alert!
Charming!!! Abusive language, cursing and swearing is NOT of CHRIST JESUS, Bella.

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Pat in my Armagh Archdiocese we have a great number of priests who live highly excessive lifestyles. Some holiday in ‘quiet’ destinations. Some love lavish dining. Some are real drama queens. Others drive very regal cars. There are those who love their fashion labels.

The mere inconvenience in Tyrone might be the dying neighbour needing a visit.

Any career advice?

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By Royal Appointment indeed. And well deserved. I would say there’s a few actors in Tyrone and Armagh would be tripping over themselves to have tea with Her Majesty The Queen. May that day never come.

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If I “made it up”, surely you might care to show me the evidence you are aware of to show otherwise. Someone’s short of a good Catholic education.

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We are now seeing a two tier priesthood.
Tier 1: probably 70+, reasonably principled, most are dutiful and to a degree relatively pious. Declining sharply.
Tier 2: wild, double-life clergy on the whole, seek celebrity status and seek attention at public events at any cost. Morals, for most of these men, don’t exist.

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11:45pm
An accurate assessment of the current state of priesthood on the Island of Ireland.
If this situation is allowed continue it will usher in the demise of Christianity on the Island of Saints and scholars. Wake up woke clerics!

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12:05 am: who cares what you say, your comment confirms you and your friends in your toxic pond have an extremely serious credibility problem. 😂😂

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