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KIRBY OF SILVERSTREAM TRYING TO CLAIM INNOCENCE!

MARK KIRBY, the shamed founder and prior of Ireland’s homoerotic priory, has been writing to friends abroad telling them that he has been cleared of all wrongdoing by the Irish police, Canon law and the charity commissioners.

He is putting his vindication down to the direct intercession of the Virgin Mary

It may be true that no charges have been brought to date – but that is down to the fact that he sexually targeted a monk – an adult.

The monk, Father Benedict Andersen never claimed that Kirby actually assaulted him genitally- but rather sexually harassed him in a homosexual fashion.

Kirby came to Ireland with a well developed reputation of being dodgy when it comes to homosexuality.

He also restricts the age entrance to Silverstream to 30.

That means he only wants 18 – 30 old novices!

A very strange requirement. Does God no longer call those over 30 to priesthood or religious life.

That would even rule Jesus Himself out who did not begin his mission until the age of 30.

Apart from the homosexual concern, Father Benedict described in sworn documents and the drawer of cash Kirby kept in his desk – amounting to tens of thousands of Euros.

No legitimate religious house or diocese allows desk drawers bursting with notes.

Benedict also claimed that Kirby paid off a lay worker in the prior with cash after the workman spotted some “inappropriate touching” being engaged in by Kirby.

Kirby has always inhabited a strange world in which homosexuality and monasticism co-exist.

He is the author of a long letter to an Abbot outlining this monastic coexistence in his ownife.

The police and charity commissioners will only act if a crime has been committed.

The RCC us infamous for its support and tolerance of all kinds of Kirbys.

The local episcopus, Tom Deenihan is many things but certainly not a moral crusader.

It emerged this week that Kiby taught the leader of another monastic cult I Wyoming in the USA where all the monks strip for each other and novices are harassed.

https://wyomingcarmelitemonastery.tumblr.com/dossier_police_report

These places of sexual and religious abuse are spring up in many places and two factors stand out:

1. Homoerotic overtones.

2. The Tridentine Mass.

Kirby and his ilk are a danger to all Catholics but particularly to Catholic young men feeling called to a monasticism life.

To paraphrase a Scripture:

“They are lions prowling around seeking young men to devour”.

And the amazing things is that otherwise intelligent Catholics are falling for their caca.

Kirby even claims that Jesus speaks to him from the tabernacle.

And people are paying money to Kirby to find out what Jesus says to him.

In my opinion, Kirby is dangerous and should be under psychiatric / psychotheraputic care.

128 replies on “KIRBY OF SILVERSTREAM TRYING TO CLAIM INNOCENCE!”

…a simple solution to the doms dilemma…a dig out from the Tabernacle…bob’s your uncle. !!!!!!

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Paddy, you’re a plasterer? Thank heavens! I’ve got a crack in the bed room which needs filling.

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Where are you? I can send a buddy round to sort out your ceiling problem. If you’re in the back of beyond down south or a savage in bacon and cabbage land in the southwest or in the wild west look up Wiki how for a DIY job. Good luck with it. I hope the ceiling doesn’t collapse on top of you or anyone else.

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The chaplain job in University College Cork back fired due to the exposure with Tom Deenihan.

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My observation is that so many, probably the majority, of these young vocations who are going in to places like Silverstream or the Wyoming Carmelites, will unlikely still be there in 5 or ten years. When I come across a young cleric or religious who is full of his self-importance and idiotic theological and liturgical nonsense, they usually tell me that I am just a jaded, old, washed out has been. I tell them to come back and we will see where they are in 10 years. They will not be where they are now in all their arrogant self-assurance. They will have come to experience and realise the toxic, dysfunctional and damaging culture they have entered, and will probably be somewhere else. In the meantime I’m content to leave them making tits of themselves and wandering around from shrine to shrine and Latin Mass to Latin Mass and to play at being other worldly. They will soon learn. That’s what I see all the time.

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Don’t forget to mention McCarrick,Ledworth,McCamley. ete. The NEC the VEC, Alice Hall, Oscot etc. etc. All of them hotbeds of modernism where two factors stand out::
1 Homoerotic overtones
2 The Novus Ordo Mass

There are a lot of lions in these places seekng to devour young men. It is amazing that Catholics don’t see this, and continue to support these satanic institutions.

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10:08
Thanks for demonstrating the ‘the toxic, dysfunctional and damaging culture’ 9:20 referred to.

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10.08
Bela Lugosi is still bothered by modernism and Pius X is dead for over one hundred years.

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Yes, 9:20. If you see a fantasy of religious life going on, it is most likely just that, a fantasy.
Also a community where they are all young except the one who is the founder is never a good sign.

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Oul Gossip Alert @5:45pm

It dosen’t matter how long St Pius X of blessed memory is dead. As he said then Modernism is the summation of all heresies then and still is. And don’t we know it.

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Just to comment I didn’t send this video to Pat Buckley not did I ask him to comment. He is welcome to comment. But I didn’t ask him to do so. I find his mockery of some Irish clergy on this blog offensive. We can give constructive criticism without get personal.

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Robert, the position adopted by you in your video is out of date since Pope Francis issued Spiritus Domini, motu proprio last January.

Since the liturgy of the eucharist is structured around the fourfold action of the Lord at the Last Supper, Jesus took, blessed, broke and gave the bread and wine to his disciples, it is appropriate that the one presiding at the eucharist distributes the consecrated elements.
It is equally appropriate that clergy and instituted lay ministers would also distribute them.

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But the priest does preside, and he hands the consecrated host to the laity after this is done. They take and eat; but they share, also. How beautiful is that?
I always thought the curtain in the temple, the holy of holies, torn in two again to signify that the priest is not the ultimate mediator between man and God? To bridge the gap: the transcendental takes on a deeper imminence in the here and now (while retaining all the mystery of transcendentalism).

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Robert, You are getting ahead of yourself. I never said you sent me the video.

About the criticism? Are you not an ardent Kirby-ite?

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I think Pat you have been treated horrifically by the Irish Church in the 80s, you obviously have a lot of compassion for people and I believe you genuinely wanted to help. You have sadly become the marmite of Irish Catholicism. The monks of Silverstream are some of the finest men I know and I’m not going to gossip about them, they deserve their privacy. Yes we need reform and we need to hold the church to account, but cartoon comic book, name calling won’t go anywhere. As baptised Catholics we need to build up the church, pray for our family the church, not see priests/bishops men held at a distance. We need to reach out and help priests, even priests who have personal problems. I’m sorry how you were treated as a young priest, but I take a different approach to this. I’ve been lucky to have had many good honest priests / bishops as friends for over 30 years. I firmly believe we need to support and mentor priests and ensure they have everything they need, I’ve campaigned to ensure priests have holidays and time off. They should have support of a community of Priests. Irish Catholicism is in a sorry state, but we can do better. Priests deserve better.

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Mr Nugent writes:
“The monks of Silverstream are some of the finest men I know and I’m not going to gossip about them, they deserve their privacy. […] Priests deserve better.”
Is that why Mr Nugent has *repeatedly* defamed the Silverstream whistleblower on Twitter?

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It is interesting that the saga surrounding Silverstream Priory continue to be ventilated on this blog. The pseudo-mysticism of Mark Kirby should be a cause of concern for Bishop Deenihan. However, it is only a matter of time before further allegations come into the public domain about Kirby and his past. Leopards never change their spots. Moreover, I would suggest that Kirby left the USA and to escape his past! He is however, of the generation that has failed to take into account the realities of social media and the power of Google. The question you should be asking Bishop Pat: why did Kirby leave the Diocese of Tulsa?

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ROBERT @ 11.48

Thank you for your very reasonable comment.
I have no reason to doubt what you say about Silverstream, apart from Mark Kirby.
You must know that Mark comes with baggage with regard to his homosexuality in the various places he has been.
In fact he has written a very long letter himself outlining his difficulties on this area that I have seen.
For Silverstream to do well Mark needs to retire away from it.
Rebuilding the Church is very like renovating a house with always begins with some demolition. Maybe I am a small part of the demolition squad?

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I’m not going to speculate, Dom Mark has been the kindest priest I’ve met, he has never asked tor anything. I take a different approach, how can we build men up, help priests, mentor them, support them. We need to always give them space to voice their concerns without this becoming a gossip blog. So I’m simply never going to gossip about anyone on a blog. As a Church we can do so much better by allowing the bear in everyone to shine. I’m sorry how you were treated, that wasn’t right .your building bridges in the community in the 1980s was exactly what Northern Ireland needed, pity your talent on that area wasn’t used, NI needed someone like you working in the community. Such is life. I don’t agree with the direction of your blog, the cartoon on Silverstream is offensive. The Bishop of Meath has done absolutely nothing wrong.

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12.08: Pat, I like the fact that you are willing to view crises anywhere within the Church with a less judgmental style. You can be part of the demolition of secretive and destructive ways of dinful and criminally wrong church behaviour. You have highlighted much that was kept hidden. While I have found this exposing and demolition personally challenging and difficult, it is of paramount importance. What I dislike is the very unkind, nasty behaviour and intentions of some commenters whi take great liberty to advocate very ugly, violent and aggressive language against many chosen men who are clerics. All abuse and wrongdoing has to be called out. Trying to create mature dialogue and honest conversations may gave better results which are conducive to personal and communal renewal. I trust and hooe you may one day have thus as an issue to discuss particularly in light of men to men conversations taking place in countries after the tragic deaths of women. We must all challenge the many unquestioned stereotypes and caricatures we have in our DNA towsrds women and men.

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Mr Nugent at 1:09 PM: “So I’m simply never going to gossip about anyone on a blog.”
But you will gossip about a monk and priest of Silverstream Priory on your Twitter account.

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11.48: Thank you Robert for this reasonable and balanced comment. I too have encountered very good, prayerful men at Silverstream. I regret developments of recent times in the priory but with God’s Spirit the monks will return to their committed way of life. This won’t be without trials or challenges. I agree with you that we must all seek better ways of being Christ and that pastors particularly need to return to a more faithful miinistry in Christ. Calling other men “effeminate” names, caricaturing men/priests in demeaning ways, tolerating a vindictive narrative against priest/sinners is not the way to elicit necessary renewal. Leaving aside our desire to want to crap some people to pieces, I wonder if as men we adopted a kinder, more respectful dialogue with each other, would we yield better fruits? I do not defend any moral transgressions or abuse of any kind and am horrified at any prose, narrative or social media outlet that facilitates a constant humiliating and pounding those who fail and who are fallen ignominiously or whose sins may be larger than others. In the extremes of criminal abuse and behaviour, where people are seriously hurt or damaged or lose their lives we must trust that the courts of the land enact swift justice.

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And your opinion on the disgraceful way Dom Benedict Andersen has been treated……..

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“I do not defend any moral transgressions or abuse of any kind and am horrified at any prose, narrative or social media outlet that facilitates a constant humiliating and pounding those who fail and who are fallen ignominiously or whose sins may be larger than others.”

The issue here seems to be not the hounding of someone who has committed some secret sin, but the utter hypocrisy of Kirby (as a monk, a priest, a founder, a superior, and an alleged seer), his inability to own up to established facts about his sexual proclivities, and his continued presence among young impressionable men, with the express approbation of the Bishop of Meath, Thomas Deenihan.

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Frankly while the faithful are busy trying to minimize the potential effects of Kirby apparently having learned no hints of the absolute essential things from his years spent years in religious life, there are a few things which should automatically warn people against Silverstream:
The violations between internal and external forum.
A monk being ordained before being solemnly professed.
Kirby having to be told to stop kissing the monks good night.
And in case you’re going to make out that it is all resolved, don’t forget that the entire community have been formed by this guy, who makes a point of only taking aspirants who have not been religious elsewhere, and so will not have the experience to spot things that are wrong. Believe you me, we haven’t heard the last of Silverstream.

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If Bishop Deenihan was smart and wanted to rid himself of Silverstream Priory, he should insist by Decree upon the celebration of the Eucharist at Silverstream is in accordance with the Novus Ordo.

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Deenihan’s certainly no trad, nor do I mark him for an individual who would have much time for the “In Sinu Iesu” scam. Nor can I imagine that his Irish episcopal colleagues, or the other religious superiors of Ireland, appreciate the kind of Catholicism which Silverstream represents — a fringe, sectarian expression which the Successor of Peter himself means to bring back to the mainstream. Why, then, is Deenihan protecting Kirby and this community to such an extent?

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1:42,
As I mentioned before the Latin BCP was originally created by the British for the Irish. No one seems to know to what extent it was used.
Last week Hunwicke+ had an article about his experience with a Latin HC service at Oxford. He mentioned that he noticed a collect pasted to the cover of the Oxford Service Book retranslated into Latin from the 1928 failed book, ( No, I’m not talking about the Nouus Ordo, the failed book of 1970, Did I say that?) which was itself a translation of the famous Deus qui nobis collect of Aquinas.

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Robert Nugent is sincere in his desire for authentic Catholicism. However, he fails to appreciate that Silverstream and its synchronistic Benedictine spirituality is not authentic. Moreover, there are legitimate questions about Kirby’s background that need to be answered, and the silence of the Diocese of Meath is not helping the situation. The visitation ordered by Bishop Deenihan was overseen by an abbot who was a frequent visitor to a gay sauna, Purcell; the other abbot, Coffey of Glenstal, presides over a community that is notorious. Remember, Glenstal produced Gregory Collins who recklessly decided to enter a gay relationship with a Palestinian man while in Jerusalem. These are the two abbots that gave Silverstream a clean bill of health. Silverstream is an exemplar of why the Irish Church is in such a horrific state.

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Yes, it would seem that Mr Nugent, the YouTube crusader, has done a video on the Purcell scandal … yet he exhibits a curious blindspot when it comes to the aspect of the scandal that involves the sham visitation of Silverstream Priory.

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‘synchronistic Benedictine spirituality’.
Yes. And the fact it’s presented as coming from God is the most disturbing thing.

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I had been wondering when the Carmelite monastery would explode in the media for some time. There have been concerns expressed by people (including Carmelites) who wondered how Carmelite their life really was, since they observed elements of other monastic traditions and the absence of some things essential to the Carmelite charism.
There isn’t anything wrong with starting something new but you must present it as such and certainly not present a public association of the faithful as if it is an established Carmelite monastery.
Come to think of it, I thought Carmelite men were friars not monks, but whatever.

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That Dom Kirby was a teacher of Father Daniel Mary of the Wyoming Carmelites, presumably at Holy Apostles Seminary in Connecticut (during its very “gay” phase in the 1990s) is a very interesting development, as there are several clear parallels between the two communities.

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I actually watched the report last week into the monastery in Wyoming and it gave me the creeps. The young man interviewed on his experience as a novice certainly spoke well and didn’t appear to be telling untruths. In a time when Safeguarding should be of paramount importance it’s unbelievable that these places can operate.

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I am glad that the subject of the diocese of Tulsa has come up here. I am from that diocese, and I did visit the little group on a few occasions for Mass. They were using then the TLM but with some interesting modifications, like using a multiyear lectionary in English and praying some of the Office according to Episcopalian Prayer Book translations.
Father Kirby always struck me as a bit too dramatic and flamboyant, even to the point of a campy effeminacy, which is one of the reasons I did not visit more than I did. It did not sit right with me. I am not homophobic, but it was all just a bit too much. Maybe others find that kind of personality endearing, but I do remember being disturbed. It was all about him, his blog, his vision, his foundation. That’s definitely not the Rule of St. Benedict as I understand it: St. Benedict never features himself; his personality never ever gets in the way.
The monastic setup there was extremely odd and I remember being a bit concerned about oversight from the diocese. As a younger man I was a novice in a very large Benedictine abbey (I left to get married thanks be to God) and I remember being very concerned about how loose and undisciplined it all was. The community did not answer to any larger monastic entity (like a congregation in the Benedictine Confederation), and that by design.
I met the now Father Anderson once, I think, while he was visiting for a retreat from Colorado. I think he was a member of the Eastern Orthodox Church at the time. and in fact on the cusp of being ordained in that church; I remember being a bit surprised when he joined later. I am very grieved to hear what has transpired with him. He left a priestly vocation in the Orthodox Church for THIS mess?
There was also as a very young man named Bro Thomas; I think he was a convert from Nebraska. He was extremely childlike and immature, and I do remember being very alarmed by the way that Fr. Kirby interacted with him. He seemed to hover over him like a mother hen in a very sickly manipulative way. Later I heard from a priest of the diocese that there was some very bizarre incident between Thomas and Kirby; Thomas ran away from the monastery for several days. It was kept very quiet, though Fr. Anderson would have been there at the time, and I understand that there was a priest who worked for ICEL making a retreat there while this all occurred.
I had also heard from the same Tulsa priest that Kirby’s departure from Tulsa was very odd. On the eve of it, the community reduced by half, as two novices either left or were summarily dismissed (I don’t fully remember). It was not very clear, either, if Kirby began his discussions with the Diocese of Meath with the blessing or approval of Bishop Slattery. It would seem that he just up and left without permission. I also vaguely remember some sort of financial transparency issue between Bishop Slattery and Kirby; again, clearly, another “preview of coming attractions” in Ireland.
In summary I am very grieved by what has happened with Silverstream but given my experiences of the community when it began in Tulsa, I am not in the least bit surprised. I just hope and pray, through the intercession of St. Benedict, that it’s all sorted out by the Church in fairness and justice towards all, especially Fr. Andersen, whose life seems to have been destroyed because of his choice (innocent of course) to associate with Fr. Kirby.

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Addendum:

Addendum:

The mysteriousness of Fr. Kirby’s past always confused me. Apparently he was a Cistercian somewhere in Canada, but had spent many years before this in Connecticut, and then at the very ill-fated and notorious Abbey of Santa Croce in Rome (the one suppressed by Pope Benedict for egregious moral violations). No explanation was EVER given for why Kirby had not been in his monastery of profession for many years. I asked some priests in the diocese and they were all as confused as I was about it, but they counseled me to keep my distance. And so I did.

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I actually watched the report last week into the monastery in Wyoming and it gave me the creeps. The young man interviewed on his experience as a novice certainly spoke well and didn’t appear to be telling untruths. In a time when Safeguarding should be of paramount importance it’s unbelievable that these places can operate.

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A few days late but I have just seen that leaked Vatican documents have revealed Pope Teflon did actually shuffle an abusing priest round when he was bishop of Munich, thus enabling much more crime. Just like all the others. This is the one they tried to get the vicar general to take the rap for. Who’d have thought it. I did Nazi that coming.

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Egregious accusation of partisanship at 3:45.
Francis should publicly deal with his history in Argentina of allegedly allowing Jesuits to be killed and any safeguarding concerns.
I don’t know who Zanchetta and Insoli are.
I think Barros is the bishop whose consecration was protested? He should have refused the episcopate because of the public scandal.
McCarrick needs to be upfront about his abuse and those who covered for him need punishment. I doubt the law will have finished with him before he does.
BTW I’m not Catholic and contrary to you, my concern is justice, not scoring points.

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“In my opinion, Kirby is dangerous and should be under psychiatric / psychotheraputic care.”
Agreed. The members of the community will also need serious attention from professionals with training in trauma and cult deprogramming. That goes for the Wyoming monks too.

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2.55: What’s happening in your brain to speak such evil? Rejection, a loveless life, jealousy, hatred?? Caca….

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Pat, what’s happening in Waterford?
Diocese of Waterford and Lismore Clerical Changes 2022 announced today:
“ Of his own accord, Richard Geoghegan petitioned Pope Francis for laicisation from the priesthood on 31st March 2021. At the meeting last March, Richard attended the diocesan offices, in the company of a chosen colleague, to sign the request to the Holy Father for laicisation.
On 15th December 2021, Pope Francis granted Richard Geoghegan’s petition, meaning that he is no longer a priest.
I wish to acknowledge and thank Richard for his pastoral ministry over the years and wish him well for his future.”
But yesterday Richard Geoghegan posted the following on Twitter:
“I entered seminary in 1987 at the age of 19.
I was ordained in 1993 at the age of 25:
On 7/1/22 I was officially dismissed by ROME.
On Friday 14/01/22 my Bishop was happy to dispense me.
I’m a good man.
And he talks about the shortage of vocations.”
Any insight?

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Oul Gossip Alert @ 8:31pm

No Nettie none of these things apply to me as usual any caca comes from you .I was reliably
informed that you weren’t posting on the blog as you were a people person not a virtual one. 🤣🤣🤣 You also slagged off poor Patsy saying he edited your post’s incorrectly. I’m sure that’s not true.

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Why don’t you have another go at that Billín and we’ll try and make sense of it a second time.

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On a different topic, Fr Richard Geoghegan of Waterford tweets that he was dispensed of his vows last Friday, January 14th.
Fr Richard is known to blog readers and RTE viewers as ‘Shirley Bassey’.
Maybe now Phonsie will have time to clear his email backlog…

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I gave him a like, Bp Pat.

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You gotta love it when trads go on and on about their priests and religious being “cancelled”… then here we have a trad monk and priest who has been cancelled by his own trad community with the help of an Irish diocesan and two liberal abbots, because he exposed a “homo predator” (to use another favourite term of some trads). It shows you that despite the outward difference of liturgical expression, closeted gay prelates and clergy will always protect one another. You can take that to the bank.

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They conveniently forget the c 4000 cancelled permanently by the Spanish Inquisition. So much for being pro life.

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1.29 & 1.32 – Thanks Pat – I might wait until next week to take a Leap of Faith on Tom’s Boy! 😇

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2.53. If Fr Geoghegan petitioned on 31st March, surely there is a copy on file of his letter doing so that enabled the process to finalisation? Why is he venting on social media now – where is this going, one wonders. Surely, he should be busy & grateful to now have the opportunity to be free & to rebuild his life?

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Don Kirby, in Tulsa, helped create an utterly dysfunctional order of faux Benedictine nuns under the leadership of a clearly mentally ill woman called Rosalind Moss, who styles herself “Mother Miriam OSB”.

She had no knowledge of Benedictinism and adopted the identity merely for the aesthetics of the traditional habit.

Like Silverstream, her “group” (usually just her with a brow-beaten novice in tow) were run out of Tulsa on a rail by the new ordinary and after many adventures they’ve found themselves in the middle of nowhere in Kansas.

“Mother Miriam OSB” has a broadcasting grift going with both “Lifesitenews” and YouTube, peddling paranoid masochistic fantasies about “end times persecution” (the usual melange of homosexuals, Democrats, vaccines, “Bergoglio”) to credulous trads.

For a taste, search for “Mother and Refuge of the End Times” for a taste of the madness that is Mother Miriam.

Again, this gift to the Universal Church is all the handiwork of Dom Kirby. 👌 🤡

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Just one correction: her order was previously in St Louis Where it was supported by Cardinal Burke (lol). After Mother Burke left St Louis the new bishop kicked them out and then rocked up in Tulsa.
Can’t disagree with anything you say about them though 🙄

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You’re quite right. They became “ Benedictines”, though, in Tulsa, as far as I know.

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It sounds to me like Richard was forced. Seminary / Bishops like to play the game of “go of your own accord, or we will make you go”. The inference is that if you leave of your own accord, you can leave “in good standing”. The other option is that the Bishop opens a case and the congregation for clergy makes a ruling on it. It is unlikely that Rome will ever disagree with a Bishop thus leading them to forcibly laicise Richard.
Richard may have followed the protocols even if he did so unwillingly. It is clear from his post that he did not want to leave. It sounds like the Bishop is telling half-truths.
Pat, you should reach out to him and allow him to tell his story.

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Kindly contact via snail mail- MF -or email.
Meet @ local Pastors home- date and time at your convenience.
Agenda:
Pleasantries: (very long time no see).
Penance: (short & sweet).
Paperwork: (surprise-surprise-surprise).
We’ll discuss, in some detail, possibilities, probabilities and what’s definite.
No further communication whatsoever via Bishop Pat’s blog.
Thank you, Pat.

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Robert Nugent hasn’t addressed the issue, raised more than once above, of his Twitter comments relating to Fr Andersen.

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He accused Silverstream of financial fraud and then goes and asks me directly for money, August 2020 he points me towards this very blog saying the Pat has got it wrong poor thing. (I have the texts) I have it all on record. He contacted me, I never asked to get involved at all. Do you not think I’m entitled to be a little angry? Then the constant criticism of the Bishop of Meath. The Bishop of Meath did everything above board. Silverstream gave fr. Benedict lots of freedom to travel, they gave him all the help he needed. He wasn’t held captive in a prison. I stand by me comments because HE dragged me into this, I never asked to be involved. But I won’t sit by and let him play the victim. He can sue me if he disagrees, I’m more than happy to go to court if he thinks I have slandered him. Fr. Benedict is an intelligent and kind Priest, I don’t know all that happened, I really hope there can be some closure here. He confirmed to me there was no abuse among the monks, he also confirmed that Dom Mark was no Fr. Maciel, he isn’t living a double life in Silverstream. I’m sure mistakes were made, but Dom Mark is certainly not the monster being painted by some people, far from it. , I just went to Silverstream for the Latin mass, they never asked for anything. Fr. Benedict has his view on all this, fine. I wish him all the best. So there you have my comment whoever you are. The monks of Silverstream are some of the finest men I know. Maybe instead of gossiping about them, people could take a trip to the monastery and actually talk to them and see for yourselves. Lastly Dom Mark Kirby cured my daughter in 2018, during a horrific time for our family. I’ve not idea about his past, I can just judge him as I see him today. People change, maybe sometimes we can just approvate the good we see.

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I’m glad Fr. Benedict is a good friend of yours Pat. Give him my regards. Shame on me for what exactly?? He involved me in this, I didn’t ask to get involved.

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I have never met Father Benedict. I know about him through a mutual canon lawyer friend.

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8.37: Robert, there is a deep Christ like charity in your soul and heart. Some might think you’re naive. Perhaps but you are seeking to give your personal testimony to your experiences and these should be respected. I visited Silverstream in the early years and found tremendous solace from my visits. I hope to visit again. Robert, may God bless your spiritual journey, faith and prayer and your fidelity to God. Sometimes it is people who have suffered great hurt, misunderstanding and failures who are the most empathetic and compassionate. It can be said of Pat that his experiences of struggle, rejection and turmoil made him very empathetic to others. Does God give us not just one chance but 77? I pray for the Silverstream monks each day. God often leads us to people we dismiss because of our blindness and narrow minds and hard heartedness.

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‘Lastly Dom Mark Kirby cured my daughter in 2018’
While I am sorry to hear that your daughter was ill, this is simply not true. And I don’t even need to know the details – any recovery will never be the result of intervention by Dom Mark Kirby or even divine intervention. Claims like these are always driven by faith and confusing correlation with causation.

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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/haunting-glimpse-around-abandoned-catholic-22740156

Haunting glimpse around abandoned Catholic college with a troublesome past
The college finally closed its doors in 1992 but is still a magnificent spectacle

” It would make a stunning location for a ghost story or a gothic Hammer horror film.
The abandoned St Joseph’s Seminary in Upholland near Skelmersdale, still presents an intriguing and haunting spectacle.
It saw its last batch of pupils leave in 1992, and now there are only faint remnants to be found of its former use. Among its notable alumni are St Helens-born comedian Johnny Vegas and Paddy McAloon, singer with 80s band Prefab Sprout.The school has a long heritage and dates from a time when many young men wanted to train to become priests, welcoming its first pupils in 1883.”

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Upholland has been all over the urbex forums for years. Ushaw and Cardross are as well. The latter has apparently passed out of the diocese’s hands and the wreckage has been cleaned up and stabilized.

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10.56: I disagree with you. God hears the heartfelt prayers of those who plead in faith to him. I pray constantly for the sick and the hurt and the dying. It is my faith that God listens and helps. Often he will hear the prayers of others who pray for us. I believe Robert. And his belief that the prayers of Dom Mark brought healing to his daughter is his belief, not yours to mock. But who cares about your unbelief: Robert’s daughter is well and healthy again, thanks be to God.

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I’ve just been reading Richard’s Twitter feed and there are nearly 200 replies to his tweet about his removal from the priesthood. Mostly from his former parish of Carrick on Suir. He seems to have been greatly loved and appreciated there. For example
” You were and still are and will continue to be a wonderful person. You are part of every family in Carrick for being an amazing person in good times and in sorrowful times. That is because of who YOU are not because you were a priest. You’re too good for that job “

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I’m sorry, I know Dom Benedict quite well. I am privileged to call him a friend. What you write is utter and complete garbage. Shame on you, Mr Nugent.

If your account of things is so right and reasonable, why have you deleted all your tweets trashing his reputation?

How can Dom Benedict be a “an intelligent and kind priest” but also a dishonest grifter? How does that work, Mr Nugent?

The only thing he ever indicated to you (I have the screenshots as well) is that he was able to take Mass intentions. He did not directly ask for money. It is not a crime for a poor priest to tell someone he thought was a friend that he can take Mass intentions.

Note also that at the time Abbot Brendan Coffey, as superior of Silverstream, was threatening to cut off his already meagre sustenance. That situation would be enough frighten anyone just thrown out into an unprecedented worldwide pandemic.

Father Benedict’s parents are not wealthy and have taken a huge hit because of Silverstream’s refusal to provide a living sustenance.

Also, you misrepresent your relationship to Silverstream. At one time, you were an Oblate, and you may still be. This is considerably more involved than “I just went there for Latin Mass”.

Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame.

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That post above was by the author Pat Buckley, now it’s anonymous. Well Pat is that how you play it?

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The comment was sent to me by email with a request to post. I do not know the sender and published it wrongly under my name rather than the anonymous requested..

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Would you care to actually answer the content of the post, Robert?
Is it such a crime for a priest monk under a vow of poverty (someone you also admit to be a decent individual), unsupported by his community, to ask a friend if he has a Mass intention for him?
Does he deserve to be hounded by the likes of you on social media, you who claim never to gossip about anybody online?
You’ve damaged this man’s reputation, “an intelligent and kind priest”. That’s detraction, at best, my friend, a mortal sin.

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Yes I heard the above from Rick Yoder. I’m sorry for his financial problems. But can’t you see it from my perspective? He had his own PayPal account in august 2020, months after he made accusations of financial fraud in Silverstream and when auditors questioned the account (which they were unaware of), hey presto he transfers money back to Silverstream, money appeared. What am I honestly supposed to make of all this? He is the only priest who has ever asked me for mass intentions. So I honestly ask, how was I supposed to digest all this? He involved me.

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9.24: Perhaps you’re the weird one – always a possibility when we’re biased and intolerant and unknowledgeable.

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That link is one of the maddest things I’ve ever seen.
Could the boy solitary be the boy who looks around 12 bizarrely dressed in a Redemptorist habit?
Raving.

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And the number one rule for those lovely looking girls in the convent,
” LIGHTS OUT 11 P.M.
CANDLES OUT 11.30 P.M.”
😁

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I would not take Gary Michael Voris’ supposed revelations as having much standing. Even his faithful, led by a gay man who calls people like himself sodomites (I do not think he distinguishes between the celibate and active gay, or seems not), were mocking the claims. Perhaps all the young men with hair like him (see his old videos if they exist still), applauded. The bits I read make it seem like an over-fragile lay brother who failed to grasp that ‘ora et labora’ is a real thing. If only an agency builder could have a vocation. Yet, these Wyoming Carmelite do however seem very impatient. Great monasteries are the work of decades, even centuries. Working a man till he cannot manage even a few Pater Nosters (a old simple Office is the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer, that perfect prayer, again and again) is not wise. This is meant to be a Carmel, not a gulag.

I would remind people St Michael’s Media was seed funded by Marc Brammer, an Opus Dei supernumerary. The archdiocese of Detroit banned Church Militant (old name RealCatholic.tv) from call themselves Catholic. And Opus Dei never put their ‘brand’ on any schools or other undertaking they operate or own (like the CMTV HQ). Whenever Spain has a Popular Party government, Opus Dei supernumeries and cooperators seem like half the cabinet. And, by the bye, pictures do exist, not all very old, of Gary and his old ‘husband.’ He did panic some years ago that the New York archdiocese was going to out him, and so he did that himself, when most likely they barely know of his existence.

Some of the usual people seem to be promoting the Silverstream shop, Cenacle Press, which in fairness is useful as it has US or UK printed matter without the pile of postage or customs. They seem a bit ‘radio silent’ in recent times, without streamed Mass or Office on Youtube, and after a year only now posted to promote the Rosary beads that they make. I like the Penal Rosary crucifix. It is concerning that Dom Mark is in Silverstream (where in effect he will be either prior or a sort of co-prior with a group around him) and Fr Andensen is still in a sort of US exile.

I might have said before I heard a sermon preached by Dom Mark. It used very fine language spoken in a fruity tone, but after a bit I got the impression was saying very little in ornate terms.

I’m not sure +Pat will be able to have too much influence on +Deenihan. I think some Churchmen take pride in ignoring any online Vox populi, that is, bloggers and commenters, even when they are making an overall reasonable point. +Pat was mentioning some horses and their odds. It would probably be a somewhat reasonable thing to bet that Dom Mark will start slowly to creep in from the darkness. I wonder if Paddy Power would take a bet on that.

Dom Mark gazing into the horizon, music playing…

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I did, as much of Voris stuff as I can endure. The poor darling was too tired to pray. Voris is still following the thrash traditionalist agenda of Marc Brammer, investor and Opus Dei Supernumerary. Rather than go after big beasts like the gay Benedictines of St John’s Abbey Collegeville, this small community is attacked for its ambition and drive. I looked again, and it’s piss poor CM stuff. Sex trafficking? Bunch of crap. Anyhow, this’ll be over soon, as Gary’s former husband John Fitzgerald Mola appeared in what’s hinted to be a very gay themed video from 1997, if not a gay porn. Moreover this vid from a time when Gary was actively gay is still under CM copyright. Mike Parrott is gonna get his hands on that through a writ of discovery. If it is anything, Voris is gonna have get on his knees, not in the gay way he used to, but beg or buy the forgiveness of a man who continually mocked and riled this fake rad trad (once had a policy of never criticising Pope Francis, now every other article on CM is an attack). After the bathroom wars (counter claims over who had the more humble and Catholic bathroom) this could get real.

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@ Concerned Okie I didn’t hound him. I got angry by his latest media articles and I voiced my views. I didn’t ask to get involved. Fr. Benedict involved me. He was getting hundreds of dollars a month into the account for us. To be clear I was happy to help and so were others. I’m an ex Legionary of Christ and by God I won’t suffer being fooled a 2nd time, not after Fr. Maciel. Fr. Benedict needs to move on, if he is unhappy with anything I’m saying here then sue me. Take me to court.

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Mr Nugent, your account is this is hopelessly mangled; whether purposely or through some kind of personal difficulty on your part, it’s very hard to say.

All of this was explained to you fully a YEAR ago and in great detail by the individual who was then representing Dom Benedict. It was explained to you by email, as well as publicly on Twitter, more than once, by the same representative. Yet here you are once again!

The whole matter was investigated thoroughly and settled in Dom Benedict’s favor by Abbot Brendan Coffey, an individual who is no friend of Dom Benedict.

If you have any lingering doubts about the situation, I suggest you contact Abbot Coffey. But, then again, this has already been suggested to you, multiple times, and you still spew the same mangled tale, in order to ruin the reputation of an individual who made a credible complaint about a man whom you think miraculously healed your daughter.

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The occasion of Mr Nugent’s appearance on this blog was his taking up a public position on the ministry of acolyte exercised by lay people without displaying any knowledge of Pope Francis’ Spiritus Domini.
The Apostolic Letter is a year old.

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The testimony of Dom Andersen hasn’t been doubted from anything I’ve seen. The diocese didn’t think the threshold of abuse had been met. The harassment was subsequently reported to the Gardaí. Seemed to be an action of a bishop covering his own back.

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‘ I won’t suffer being fooled a 2nd time’
It must have been awful but I’m afraid you have been fooled again.

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