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IS THERE STILL A FINANCIAL TRAIL FROM TULSA DIOCESE, USA, TO SILVERSTREAM IN IRELAND?

Dear Bishop Konderla,

In light of further information I have received since posting my blog article of (January 25, 2022), I have some additional and legitimate questions about the relationship between Silverstream Priory, a community of diocesan right subject to the jurisdiction of Bishop Thomas Deenihan, Ordinary of the Diocese of Meath and the Diocese of Tulsa.

According to the website, Charity Navigator, within your canonical territory there exists an entity called “The Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation” (IRS EIN number 46-3574386), headquartered in the small town of Mounds, Oklahoma. The Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation is a 501(c)(3) organization, and donations to same are tax-deductible.

An internet search reveals that Mounds, in Creek County, Oklahoma, is located just south of the City of Tulsa; the address given on online charity websites is “20315 S HIGHWAY 75, Mounds OK 74047-4908”. Is this town located within the geographical boundaries of your diocese?

The Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation exists according to its self-description on the Form 990: “TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR SILVERSTREAM PRIORY AND THE BENEDICTINE MONKS OF STAMULLEN, COUNTY MEATH, IRELAND”.

The aforesaid website gives this charitable entity an overall finance and accountability score of 85/100, which is “passing”. The missing fifteen (15) points are deducted due to the following negative issues: lack of a conflict of interest policy, lack of a document retention and destruction policy, and lack of a whistleblower policy. Moreover, last tax return filed with the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) was all the way back in 2019; it would appear, therefore, that the Foundation is rather behind in making reports of its financial activities to the American government.

Bishop Konderla, I hasten to add that I have no background in accounting, however, utilising and relying upon basic arithmetic it would appear from even the most cursory review of the accounts that are freely available on-line that the The Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation has funnelled a total of US$ 1,239,693 to Silverstream Priory in Ireland.

According to its 2019 tax return, the officers of the Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation are as follows:

DANIEL PICKETT (PRESIDENT)
GREG STICE (CHAIRMAN)
ROBIN PUDEWA (SECRETARY)
ANDREW PUDEWA (DIRECTOR)
TRACY LOPER (DIRECTOR)

The first two names, Bishop Konderla, are most certainly known to you. The President of the Foundation, Mr. Daniel Pickett, is a permanent Deacon of the Diocese of Tulsa, currently assigned by you to the Church of St. John Before the Latin Gate in Bartlesville. The Chairman of the Foundation, Mr. Greg Stice, is also a permanent Deacon of the Diocese of Tulsa, currently assigned by you to the Church of the Sacred Heart in Sapulpa with additional responsibilities within the “Office of Deacon Formation”.

Do you find it appropriate, Bishop Konderla, for two (2) permanent deacons of the Diocese of Tulsa to be so inextricably linked with the financing of a religious community in Ireland that has been mired in sexual and financial scandal?

May I remind you that a former priest of the Diocese of Tulsa, Dom Mark Kirby has been credibly accused of sexual and financial misconduct in the Republic of Ireland. Dom Kirby was subject to an investigation by the Irish Police Force for over a year and the force considered the allegations to be sufficiently serious to refer the matter to the Irish State Prosecutor, the Director of Public Prosecutions.

At the time of this writing, I have been unable to ascertain the reasons why Dom Kirby was not prosecuted. However, it is not unreasonable to speculate that it may-be attributable to the known ill-health of Dom Kirby. But, I emphasise that the fact it was investigated for so long would appear that the allegations made against Dom Kirby were sufficiently credible. It is noteworthy that Dom Kirby is telling benefactors that he is a priest in good standing, however, there was no reference to that reality on the website of the Diocese of Meath. And, the on-going silence of Bishop Deenihan about Dom Kirby’s canonical standing is troubling and surprising.

By the present, I wish to make it unequivocally clear that I am not suggesting there is any misconduct or wrong-doing on the part of the two (2) deacons named within the present. I would respectfully suggest they may-be guilty of naïveté in their devotion to Dom Kirby, a man who purportedly hears our Blessed Lord speaking to him from the Tabernacle. In fact, he has published a whole book to what he has “heard” from our Lord.

In any event, it would behove the Diocese of Tulsa to investigate this matter, because I am minded to bring this matter to the Revenue Commissioners of Ireland to ask them to conduct an independent audit of this financial connection. I am sure you would welcome a transparent and independent investigation into this arrangement. It may well be the case that everything is above board, however, in light of what is known about Silverstream Priory and Kirby’s nefarious past; one cannot be too careful.

Of course, I would not be so presumptuous to give any bishop directions about how to run his diocese. Nonetheless, it would be perhaps prudent for the Diocese of Tulsa to insist that the two permanent deacons mentioned to resign from the running of the entity and for them to have no further involvement with Silverstream Priory, and to be warned in writing of canonical penalties for non-compliance.

Bishop Konderla, I can assure you there is more scandal to come from Dom Kirby’s past, and I am sure that in light of my previous correspondence – the Diocese of Tulsa may wish to minimise its exposure to the collateral damage that is coming down the road.

With an assurance of ongoing prayerful best wishes,

  • Pat Buckley

Cc

Bishop Thomas Deenihan.

77 replies on “IS THERE STILL A FINANCIAL TRAIL FROM TULSA DIOCESE, USA, TO SILVERSTREAM IN IRELAND?”

Wait for it. The holy priests will be bitching as they always do when permanent deacons are mentioned. Anyone would think they didn’t like anyone else getting attention and wearing funny clothes 😂

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11.50: Pure nonsense. A trivial, unintelligent comment and you have frequently posted your “wait for it..” silly crap all too frequently.

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9.11
Absolutely. She/he labours under the illusion that being first out of the trap is some form of guarantee that what they write will make sense.

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It is a bit clericalist to have permanent deacons looking after financial affairs. Do they not trust the laity or is it simply about finding something for the permanent deacons to do?

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3.11: Anonymous Mollie Bags, does PMSL stand for your post menstrual stress lousiness 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧😠😠🤕🤕😠😠😡😡😡🤡😳😇…😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣😃…

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Pat, can you do a blog on how priests leaving ministry, and how much finances they receive and for how long?

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@9.53am Typical foolish speculative comment as per usual on here. All talk but not a name mentioned or in sight.

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I received a final payment of £2,000 in 2005. My national insurance stamp had not been paid for 10 years, so I had to meet the contribution shortfall. To be honest, I was keen to break all ties with the diocese, including financial, even though I struggled. I remember my first manager, a sympathetic catholic woman, said it would take five years to move on from the church and find contentment. She was right. My career progressed, and now, some 17 years later, I am financially well off, have a nice home, and the independence I always desired.

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You should have joined a congregation such as the Jesuits, Redemtorists or Carmelites.

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8.49, why is this your business and why don’t you reveal your financial arrangements. And don’t come out with a lie that you pay into the collection. You won’t have been at Mass in years.

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@1.34 I am a disgruntled religious who is pissed at seeing ex religious being financed for years after service. These payments are buying their silence

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+Pat, this is another fantastic and mischievous letter. You will have the holy monks at Silverstream driven to new levels of paranoia. They are probably seeing you as an agent of Satan intent on destroying their celebration of the Holy Mysteries in Latin. I am pleased that you differentiated between the naivete of the Deacons and the wrongdoing of Kirby in Silverstream. That is very important. Because in the Church in America that can have very serious consequences for a cleric.

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185 replies on “A READING FROM THE SECOND LETTER TO TULSA.”
The blog title the other day was very good! 👍 Very biblical!
“For American benefactors, The Monastery of Our Lady of the Cenacle Foundation, a non-profit corporation organised under the laws of the State of Oklahoma. The Foundation is a tax-exempt 501(c)3 entity.”
The Foundation and the Priory are both tax exempt? The Foundation is for the American benefactors. Dom Andersen did say that the former prior is very shrewd when it comes to fundraising.

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It is always rather time-consuming to look back previous blogs, Bp Pat, but I seem to recall you sent one of your “special” emails to +Deenihan on the subject of Silverstream and copied it a list of other people, including some Irish TDs.
+Deenihan would probably not reply as usual, but I wonder if you ever received a reply or an acknowledgement from anyone on the list of courtesy copies.

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That isn’t good, Bp Pat. It gives the impression Irish bishops have TDs in their pocket.

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+Diarmuid Martin only replied to VIPs, not his priests (one wrote a letter to the Irish Times that no priest would dare go to Abp’s House on his own), for whom he had only orders. You +Pat must’nt rank high enough for +Deenihan to reply.

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@1:24 no doubt, but priests, even administrators (as +Diarmuid did not want his frontline managers with excessive canonical rights) found their ordinary not always too communicative. +Pat you become more interested in people who decide to stonewall. +Diarmuid Martin evidently saw a practical use to answer you. And when he made answer, it would be well mannered and professional, perhaps even warm (senior professionals put great effort into projecting warmth and interest where appropriate). Yet the Abp Emeritus had a habit of throwing priests and religious under the proverbial bus. The Sisters of Mercy, Southern Province experienced that. Others too.
Anyhow it seems deeply unprofessional that a well composed letter concerning a safeguarding issue just was ignored, or perhaps more accurately, not given response.

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10.43: What century are you living In? 19th? The TD’s no longer hold bishops in respect. They are as far away from each other as you are frim your brain? Thousands of mile….

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5.48: Firmer Archbishop Martin had a convenient ally in Pat. Both enjoy throwing people under the bus and over the edge. A diabolical union…

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1.24

His Disgrace Dermot Benelli Martin liked to keep Bishop Buckley sweet methinks. Don’t think Tom Deenihan does sweetness.

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1.11
Joe Mullen wouldn’t have minded going alone at all. Does anyone remember him on national television making a pitch for His Disgrace… it’s a long time ago…. but the gentleman went from Rush to Rathgar to Mount Merrion in that order. No, there were those who didn’t mind visiting Frisky on their own….. including Patrick Mc Garry. I wonder did his fellow IT contributor; M Mc D…. X justice and PD member ever dine in the same wonderful kitchen…..😂😂😂😂

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Not so. Konderla wasn’t Bishop of Tulsa when Kirby was in the Diocese. Konderla was a priest in Austin, Texas.

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If the funds are siphoned in from the U.S. to Ireland, it would be interesting to see if they have claimed charitable tax relief in Ireland. I know that the U.K. does not recognise U.S. charities for gift aid and inheritance tax, and it is very complicated to get recognition in both jurisdictions. Perhaps the position is different in Ireland?

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‘A senior official in the Vatican’s Dicastery for Communication has tried to defend Benedict XVI after a report implicated the former pope in mishandling four cases of clergy sex abuse during his time as cardinal-archbishop of Munich.Andrea Tornielli, the communication department’s editorial director, argued on January 26 that Benedict played a leading role in fighting pedophilia in the Catholic Church, saying that can neither be forgotten nor erased .’
https://international.la-croix.com/amp/religion/vatican-defends-benedict-xvi-following-munich-abuse-report/15546
Of course he’s being defended. He admitted to lying about a paedophile priest, which permitted more abuse, then presided over John Paul’s paedophile holocaust for years. He’ll be canonised in short order as he’s the model the church want people to aspire to.

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The aforementioned Joe Mullen (1:52) is a pure sychophant. He switches allegiances as casually as changing his jocks. Having been up Dermo’s rear for years he is now the leading licker of Farrell, although the latter is too cute to be deceived by his ilk . If they make him a bishop – god forbid – his motto will read ‘C’mon the winner”
DM has vanished into the ether…..sic transit gloria mundi etc…

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2.52

There is a collection of them: inter-diocesan sycophants with a particular interest in Malta.. and London( though he has returned from the mainland)….used to anyway.😂😂😂 He has an overlap with Eamonn Martin as well… I presume he won’t be a bishop…. for that very reason.

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2.52
THE VICAR OF BRAY
In good King Charles’ golden days
When loyalty no harm meant,
A zealous High Churchman was I
And I had great preferment.
To teach my flock I never missed
Kings were by God appointed,
And damned were that dared resist
Or touch the Lord’s anointed.

CHORUS
And this is the law that I’ll maintain
Until my dying day, sir,
That whosoever king may reign
I’ll still be the vicar of Bray, sir.

Etc.

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As I put on this Blog before: Dermot Farrell is the best thing for Dublin since the time of Walsh ( I wouldn’t say it was his first choice if he had been asked; how did Deenihan get it??)

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4.32: Millie, since you abandoned the priesthood, your opinions about Episcopal matters are superfluous, of absolutely no relevance.

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6.30
Thank you Pat, that means a lot. You are more affirming than any of your brothers I experienced since Tomas O F. He had the measure of you: he liked you.
I heard him speak “ of Rome” himself; of course like them all, Rome appointed him so he was beholden to Romulus and Remus!!!’

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If another parishioner complains about me to the Bishop I will hand my resignation in. Fed up listening to that smug git Eugene OHagan, thinks he knows all and best.

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Thankfully when there are complaints about me I get Fr Fox instead. They know better than to put Eugene on to me.

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5.58

I am interested. What you must do ( if you are prepared to blaze a trail for your brother’s) is to ask your Ordinary for a copy of his/ the Diocese complaint policy. My understanding is that in the Republic of Ireland, priests have applied for and received PUP. That is a game changer. They can now call down Employment law Whe they have the stomach to do so. If you are in the North, I am not sure; but it’s time when one is complained, it is not left to the ego needy bishop to adjudicate. Ask for a copy of The Complaints Procedure; it’s time every diocese had one that was clear in the rights of the priest against anonymous persons; usually used by a bishop to manipulate the priest. Jim Larkin( today) : quoting an even greater man; “ the great appear great because we are on our knees, let us arise.”

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I’m not a priest and have had endless experience of NHS management only following employment policies when it suits them (in fact I have seen several HR people down the drive lol), and my experience would make me sceptical that a bishop would feel bound by a complaints policy. I was going to say as far as a priest is concerned but I’m sure they don’t feel bound by them in any way.
But what mainly interests me is your comment that employment law now applies to priests – my understanding was always that priests were not employees.
When did this change? Can you link to legal precedent? They will have had to go through court for this to change?

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‘‘Twas a metamorphosis not an abandonment; to have to state your point of view as you do, my opinions about whatever…. Clearly irk you. If my application s are superfluous, there would be no need to point it out, none at all. Your delineated categories must be personally injurious to your own person. Amen

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5.52
My opinions are even more acute since I transformed. I never did, but I have no fear of their abusive authority; the only reason dear Blogger that you are anonymous.

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6.00: No Billeen, your attempts to seem intellectual or clever cayse confusiin abd yoir sryke of cryptic writing lacks depth or cogency. Whatever word you use about your ‘leaving’ your views are superfluous. I am content and fulfilled still, thank God but also recognise much dysfunctionality. I avoid the circumstances that may cause such in my life and focus on the essence of what I understand gospel, Christ like ministry entails. That’s a daily challenge and one I don’t tire of easily.

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7.04
Not much evidence of a desire to apply Gospel values when you write off the views of another, presumably because you don’t share them.

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‘I avoid the circumstances that may cause such [dysfunction] in my life and focus on the essence of what I understand gospel, Christ like ministry entails’
You mean you only pay attention to and do what you feel like.
‘your attempts to seem intellectual or clever cayse confusiin abd yoir sryke of cryptic’
If I could make head or tail of this gobbledygook it would help.

Go on, you can tell us, ‘father’. Why are you really mad at William Mulvihill? Is it because he’s broken ranks or are you jealous because you want to leave yourself. Because with no disrespect, you’re not acting like a contented person.

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7.43

For expedient reasons; priests were encouraged by bishops to apply for the Pandemic Unemployment Payment. They did so. The expediency of their Graces and their Lordships was short sighted. Applying for that payment opens a new legal vista for those who want to go sightseeing….

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Oh I see what you mean. Thank you. Presumably whether being granted that payment means they are employees would still need a test case then.

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7.04
Of course, if I may be so bold; you are retired and live in your own house on a flat plain.

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If it is the matter I think you may be referring to; I hold it to be non-credible. Infallibility…..who is to know.

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What an embarrassment for the Diocese of Tulsa. 🤦‍♂️ Dom Kirby seems to leave chaos wherever he goes. I pray that His Excellency, Bishop Konderla, does the right thing here.

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Bishop Konderla was sensible and firm enough to ask Mother Miriam and Father Ripperger to move on. He needs to ask these two deacons (both of whom I’ve met) to let the Diocese of Tulsa have no more to do with Silverstream which had its start due to the misjudgment — innocent, I am sure — of Bishop Slattery (not unlike the misjudgment of the emeritus Bishop of Meath in letting Kirby escape from Tulsa).

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The dearth of comment on the subject of todays blog is curious. An existential uneasiness perhaps…..

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I’d imagine the rough and tumble world of the “Sooner State” is akin to the Planet Jupiter to the regular Irish and British readers of this blog! 😂

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Pat we are bored with silver stream and Tulsa for now, may we have scandal priests caught with their trousers round their ankles

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Perhaps Dom Kirby might have to be caught red handed in an act of Greek love . A seemingly healthy house with decent vocations, but a cultish leadership (Dom Kirby is likely de facto no 1) is a sort of slow burner.

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