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GLENSTAL BANS KNIGHTS OF MALTA FROM THEIR MONASTERY AFTER MONK “CEASES” TO BE CHAPLAIN !

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ANOTHER GLENSTAL CONCERN

What is going on in Glenstal?

What kind of a community lives there?

MY LETTER TO ABBOT BRENDAN COFFEY

282 replies on “GLENSTAL BANS KNIGHTS OF MALTA FROM THEIR MONASTERY AFTER MONK “CEASES” TO BE CHAPLAIN !”

Glenstal monk complains about … badly run visitations??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dear God in heaven, please help us down here!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

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At least the Knights and Dames won’t have to look at the lurid nudes on the walls of Glenstal.

Is Henry a Knight or a Dame?

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I am always suspicious of clergy that parade around with ribbons and trinkets of these Harry Potter type orders pinned to their vestments. They look ridiculous, and if Christ could see, he would burst out laughing at their distortion of his teaching.

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Yes, I think those McDonald badges with stars are good for workers to boost morale.

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You are not permitted to wear these foreign baubles at UK civic functions or in the presence of HM as they are false.

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9.57am. What are they going to do if you wear them in front of Brenda or her lovely son, Prince Andrew? Imprisonment? A fine?

Are Brenda’a gongs (eg for the preposterous OBE) regarded overseas as “foreign baubles”?

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Ah yes, the Order of the British Empire, founded in time immemorial (1917 lol). How’s the old empire thing going?

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10:05 We put them in the Tower at Her Majesty’s Pleasure. I think you will find the Order of the British Empire takes you anywhere in the commonwealth.

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Once when I was in tourist mode (can’t remember when or where) we rolled up by coach and got let in the side door to a Basilicar Vigil and there were these Pantomime geezers with the Admiral hats with huge great bunches of feathers sticking out and plastic swords.

Then going back in my old home town the Knights were swingers we figured out. Very keen on that trendy Teilhard they were.

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I’m with Dom Henry on this one. Any religious setting would be better off without the Dress Up Knights of the Pompous Titles.
And I’m not reading the letter as a ban – the knights can’t really expect to use Glenstal if they’ve pissed off one of the monks.

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It would appear that the Knights are, in the opinion of the letter’s author, an organisation that both he and his monastery need to disassociate from. The stated reasons appear clear and reasonable justification for the above. It appears a good choice to not make facilities available

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The OMs aren’t welcome a few days a year, but John Hurt’s paedo brother is a monk in residence 24/7. Wonderful.

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9:52 Every monastery has a list of repeat offenders who are not allowed to visit. I bet you’re on a few.

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Yes but bishop Pat at this stage youd be refused a hotdog at a Catholic street stall!
Legend.

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You sound like you know Glenstal, 10.21. Have they put up a fence to keep the monks out of the school, like they’ve done at Ampleforth?
Also, is Tusla on the list of banned visitors? I bet it makes them a bit jittery when they say they are coming.

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@10:27pm. I love it! 😅 Pat’s a living legend! Has anyone the photo of Pat being carried away by the ‘stasi’? It’s a howl! 😂

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Why don’t you have a retreat in Maynooth, Pat? They cannot ban you if you book through the civil university. That’s how the pro-abortion lesbian group booked Renehan Hall, where they danced in front of the religious art collected by Cardinal Philbin.

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Pat, interesting that Glenstal turned you down when you asked to hold a retreat there. I bet they’d allow the Anglicans to do it.

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I didn’t want to hold a retreat there. I just wanted to attend one that was advertised. The abbot sent me back my 50 euro deposit.

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Storm in a teacup. Throwing teddies out of the pram. Prima Dona. Up their own arses. High horses. Posh entitled chaps fighting amongst themselves. Really ! Haven’t this lot, both Knights and Monks, got better things to take up their time ? And ours.

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@ 8.29am “…Haven’t this lot, both Knights and Monks, got better things to take up their time? And ours.”
They didn’t put this up on the blog, and yet you chose to read it. If they want to battle it out, let them get on with it. Neither you or I need to bother ourselves with it. Move on in favour of something more time-worthy.

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9.24: Regrettably, there are too many layabouts who live drama. Let them have their feastly orgasms on tittle tattle. Fools…

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Why the speedy resignation? The Order of Malta had a retreat in Glenstal as recently as 21-23 Jan 22, led by Dom Henry, just a few days before he sent his peevish letter.

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“Mangiacapra tipped off the diocese about Morini’s crimes, but they weren’t taken seriously.” – Says it all

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I have conferred upon my mother the rank and title of marchioness. I am a knight of the Order of the Golden Lantern, and she a lady. The Golden Lantern is the name of our local chinese takeaway. The motto of our most luminous order: “Let it shine”.

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That’s great. All this make-believe chivalry stuff is just an excuse for old farts to dress up and show their superiority. When Francis culled the title of Monsignor for ambitious young priests, he should have axed this nonsense too.

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Let’s strip life of all colour, ceremony and style and live purse-lipped in bleak, darkened rooms, like Puritans.

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10.09
No, we shouldn’t do that, however, there is a time an place for it — the theatre, television, amateur operatics.

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Everywhere, in all societies, there’s a place for adornment, and not just in theatres. It happens in armies, universities, parliaments, schools etc, etc. Even churches. Let’s not be dour!

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10.58
This adornment has nothing to do with church. This adornment is merely for signifying membership in their private club. Adornment in churches has a different purpose. If they want to prance around wearing knick-knacks and bling in private, that’s great, but keep it out of church.

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I’m a true liberal, I live and let live. There’s too much of “I don’t like something, so ban it for everyone”.

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They like to strut around in front of parishioners as caped crusaders. The only ones who prance around the cities of Oxford and Cambridge in their academic gowns are the Chinese, who believe they are on a Harry Potter set.

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“ The decision to resign was not taken lightly but is in a frustration which has been growing for over 20 years of experience of consistent bad faith within the SMOM in Ireland and in Rome.”

That’s hell of a long time to make your mind up about resignation.

Also – the letter is very uncharitable in its description of the president. It reads like a petulant, temper tantrum.

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If it’s the same knights who had a run in with the pope a few years ago the weirdos on the traditio website were all over them. Cuckoo!

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The intervention was not as in not a reputable thing, appearing to be a sort of power and money grab by a Vatican which claims it’s synodal but cannot brook any limit on its power. A bishop can longer approve an association of the faithful. Like with the Franciscan of the Immaculate, there appears to be hopes of getting their mitts on ready cash. The FI effort resulted in nothing much barring a TLM ban and a wrecking of the order. Their property was in a lay trust, saving it from plunder. Lay trusts are distrusted by some, but the sanctuary of Cobh Cathedral would have been torn to pieces were it not owned by a lay trust. It preserves what the faithful use for their devotions or religious living under a rule of life from crooked priests.
Despite all the words the letter probably relates to something unsaid. I wonder what it is, but what it generally is, can be surmised.

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Symmachus, I cannot make head nor tail of the letter. Henry’s complaint is so vague yet strong enough to ban them from Glenstal.

The OMs could have their retreats in one of the Cistercian houses, but they probably don’t appeal, on class grounds. The OMs might find it harder to have genteel conversation with the farmer monks of the OCSOs than over coffee in the calefectory with the learned and pukka monks of Glenstal.

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Scary to think those questionable characters are running a school in that place in the middle of nowhere. What is TUSLA & The Department of Education doing about it. Well connected cover up exercise. Money speaks allright.

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Symmahus at 2.34pm

Interesting comment re lay trust in Cobh that I didn’t know. I remember that row and Bishop magee then Bishop that time. I can’t remember what was it but remembered that controversy re cobh cathedral.

Lay trust is the way forward in my view to prevent it from being plundered.

Mother Burke tried that by issuing excommunication to a Polish priest who claimed that church was owned by the laity. Referring to this one – https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Stanislaus_Kostka_Church_(St._Louis,_Missouri)

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9.50: Speak aloud your suspicions and concerns, Rachael or shut up. Have you any basis for concerns? Speak them and desist from innuendo. That’s dangerous and cowardly, Miss!

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Is this a concern? The recent inquiry revealed that the minor offences involved Bro Anselm taking boys, one at a time, to spend nights alone with him in a crypt under the monastery at Downside and taking them on secret trips outside the monastery for masterbation sessions. Downside dismissed him in 1970, and years later, Glenstal took him back as a monk and he ran the boarder’s chess club.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/john-hurts-brother-in-monastery-here-after-uk-child-abuse-caution-26811061.html

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Glenstal likes to say that Bro Anselm’s offences in Downside were minor. They were only minor in the context of the time, when he was let off with a police caution. Similar offences occuring today involving a teacher and pupils in a boarding school (including taking them away from the school on hotel sex trips) would lead to jail, a lifelong place on the sex offenders register and no return to a monastery.

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It was Henry O’ Shea, who was open-minded and laudatory of the homosexuality of Dom Gregory Collins, when the latter was a novice at Glenstal.
As the Abbot of Dormition Abbey, Dom Collins had an “encounter” with a young Palestinian man. A gay Benedictine from Glenstal Abbey – a real surprise, I hear you say, Bishop Pat.
Perhaps, Dom Collins learned his “ecumenical outlook ” from Henry O’Shea but one hazards to speculate, too much. But, I am sure that the Diocese of Chichester would welcome Fr Henry, like they welcomed the now Rev’d Collins.

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Richard Duc de Stacpoole is the last descendant of “Richard Fitzgeorge de Stacpoole, 1st Duc de Stacpoole (16 August 1787 – 7 July 1848), an Anglo-French Catholic aristocrat and member of the French peerage”.

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So we have the diocesan clergy bitching about the religious as they always do when they come up here. Jesus, no wonder nobody wants to be a priest. 😂

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10.51
Yes. He is a disciple of the one who said “I am the way, the truth and the life.”

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Under the Cardinal’s uninspiring leadership, the number of Luxembourg parishes has shrunk from 274 to 33. In a recent interview he said that children and their parents attend only for baptisms, First Holy Communion and, to a lesser extent, Confirmation, and then are never seen again. What a leader.

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12:48 Why the preoccupation with numbers? It’s allegedly a church, not a fast food chain.

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1:58 You’re not concerned with Ad Gentes, Vatican 2 or anything except a decline in takings.
The days are gone when anyone believed clerics’ shit.

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I thought the Gay thing was a dead issue? Why bother altering old dusty documents on shelf when everybody knows that Love is Love when two mature adults have true feelings for each other anyway?
Couldn’t they put their energies and efforts into the prevention, and dealing correctly with, wayward clerics who are at total odds with the Good Life?

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9:50am – Martin – “shut up”??? Typical. Why are YOU so rattled – should you not be here at Mass or is it more important to you to be online being rude to women & I’m a Mrs actually. So Cowardly of you 🥲. You are clearly part of a “dangerous” section of OUR Church. Footfall clarifies that. Don’t worry about being late for Mass, plenty empty seating in here & at least I can text in peace down the back since the social distancing came in. Get your wife to give u an injection to calm u down 😇

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11.04
I agree with 9.50, missus. Innuendo is easy to evoke. But it cuts no ice. Evidence please.
Your attendance at Mass is a waste of your time. Your outpouring is that of someone who has never heard of the Gospel.

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Thank you madam at 11:17 for ably demonstrating that the church has learned nothing from the holocaust of children, which is obviously far from over.

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Father at 11:17 You still haven’t come up with any evidence for the immaculate conception.

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I rather doubt that ‘Martin’ has a wife: any woman would have killed him years ago and got let off for provocation. Apart from the obvious reason of course.

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I totally agree but bizarrely they do, thinking it won’t happen (it could) or their child will speak up (they won’t).
Parents continue to send children to Ampleforth despite credible allegations about 30 monk and lay staff.
How many paedophiles make a ring?

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11.29: And people like you, while rightly abhorring all abuse, have no qualms in witnessing the slaughter of little babies through abortion – the killing of the unborn child. Such hypocrisy in the face of 1000’s being killed every day, including Ireland! Such moral bankruptcy.

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11.17 what part of the Gospel advocates the countless cases of wrong doing inflicted by clergy & associates worldwide who could publicly preach the Gospel in their sleep? Practice what you preach & keep your vows instead of trying to pervert the course of Justice. You spend far too much time feathering your nests with unchristian disregard for others that u falsely pretend to support – actions speak louder than words & those who sleep with dogs, even upmarket ones, catch the fleas from Immoral earnings. It’s very “telling” that you are highly motivated to be on here telling women to “shut up” than showing any concern whatsoever about a well documented culture of coverup in an educational establishment for minors. Your stated loyalties , Sir, make you a cog in the wheel that presents a danger to society. Run, Baby, Run & be Thankful you didn’t get put in a septic tank to “shut you up”. Maybe Martins wife has 2 injections in her bag or you might have to wait until they open up again on Monday morning.

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Well said Rachel.
Now they’ll start whinging that it’s not fair, minimising the incidence and cover up, and pointing at everyone else.
Morally and emotionally I would put them about age 10 or 11.

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11.41
What vows? Ihaven’t taken any. Perhaps your intuition is as faulty as your judgement is premature.
You’d be better off in a soup kitchen that wasting your time at Mass when nothing of the gospel penetrates.

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The soup Kitchen that Fr O’Neill went and ruined in St Pats by demanding £1k a month in fees while he and Tony are loved up in the presbytery house – vile actions from a vile man

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1.51
In the Catholic Church promises are taken during the sacraments of initiation.

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How many of them does it take to make up a ring? Is it really a question of numbers? Or, is it more a question of the power?
And when we throw registered social workers, probation officers — even Indipendant Police Complaints Commission Investigators — into the cement mixer; it can leave the very fabric of our city-structures tainted with impurities.
It has been known that these “rings” or “syndicates” have benefited from being shielded or insulated from all legal and moral responsibilities.
Similar to how the fabric of a building provides insulation from the elements.

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Anon at 11.22am and 11.28am

Never ever send a child to any boarding school with a history of abuses.

Better off send a child to a day school nearby so that you could check every day if you want to but not in any boarding schools.(they would put up a wall there which prevents any parents from seeing the reality inside).

Some FF and FG tds now ex tds were duped big time when they visited Cabra. That includes ex Taoiseach family(from 1920s onwards).

Heard a story from first hand from a parent who sent their son to Blackrock college as principal in question, pleaded that parent to tell him any case of bullying among the students. He declined to give him cos he said his son well able to respond as he’s a rugby player there at age of 15.

Some boarding schools are sort of breeding ground for paedoes or abusers, why you might ask, is that they will have access to kids without any supervision at times.

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Our Alan came out today, 25 years ago, it’s hard to believe a quarter of a century has past and the advances in peoples views.

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I suspect it’s a monk thing although it’s considered an affectation unless you’re in your nineties and spending long hours in an unheated church. Glenstal have not long had their church done out with underfloor heating.

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Wouldn’t be your first affair now would it Robert? Glass houses springs to mind, but then you only need to as God for forgiveness and all is well, conscience is clear – eh?

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Might be wed pat. I have Daisy Chain stuff on Tuesday. I am very busy these days.

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The priest in my parish has been absent for 3 of the 4 weeks last month due to holiday commitments. It has now come to my attention that he will be again on holiday at the end of this month with the 3rd priest in 2 months replacing him while this is the case. While the majority of us feel the strain of price increases he seems to not be feeling the pinch in his wallet.

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Recessions, cost of living crisis, inflation, council tax hikes, pension provision etc., never phase clergy – they are immune to it, just like politicians. It’s us who pay for it, although, unlike states taxes, we can opt-out of financially supporting the church and its priests.

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Don’t forget the Maserati and convertible Audi cars they drive, one of these cars sold could feed a country in Africa for a year – perspective fathers, I guess they all haven’t signed up to be Redemptorists so my bad

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1:33 As always the answer is very easy: stop giving and encourage others to stop as well. Make them feel the pinch – it’s the PPs who are first to get cuts, well before the church will consider spending its billions in reserves.

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How do you stop giving to men who want ‘tips’ for doing their job, i.e weddings, funerals etc. Our NHS staff don’t expect tips every time they administer medication or provide personal care.

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In fairness, those tips are centralised now in the clerical salary fund in many dioceses.

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2:02 Well obviously first stop giving to the multiple collections.
If you are serious about not giving to them you have to make choices such as not being married in church. In fact there isn’t a need to be married at all, just live together.
If you want your children baptised you can do it yourself.
These men have made you dependent on them and force you to pay for it. Outside of their simony is the glorious liberty of the children of God.

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Oh Pat stop with the innuendo 🤮 lol. Robert needs not to know about the going on of homosexual activities

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Trigger at 2:36. I’m up for the blog outing as long as it takes in Vespers at Glenstal. Better not warn them and just turn up though.
Altogether now:
Dixit Dominus….. 🎶

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1:53, did you miss the multiple comments of Robert Nugent playing along with the innuendo??? 😂

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Emm, righto. But we coould stop overnight near Glenstale- then catch Lauds in Roscrew -then hav’ us a bite to eat- an’ then be at the Boilerhouse by two to meet with Robert an’ his crew? 😀

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4:14 You’re on. Although if we’re going to the Boilerhouse better leave some seats for any monks who want to come too.

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Bishop Pat @ 1.46 todays blog is about Glenstal – at the end of this day you should, or someone should, count the number of genuine comments in relation to the subject of the day. There are over 250 comments so far but how many are in relation to today’s topic. There are people who will be the ruination of this blog Pat if you don’t stop these silly commenters. I know Robert said to let the comments come in but if he is watching this blog today he may be in a different frame of mind.

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Fair play to him. If he’s having to listen to people like you moaning and yapping, it’s not a surprise he wants to get away!

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1.33: How do you know he’s in holidays? Some people wait till Feb. to take their annual leave. I think you are lying and this comment is very similar to previous ones which you probably make up. It’s none of your business.

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His Instagram account photographs is a massive indication he is on jolly days. One look at who he follows and it’s like a gay wet dream account!

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Awk away on you, as if any priest has Instagram or any social media platform. What on Earth would they want or need or get from these sites? Utter gossip monger

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2:10 What a stupid thing to say. What were you thinking? Of course they’re all over social media, not forgetting Grindr of course

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You’ve touched a nerve with this one, Pat, judging by the troll activity. Actually the troll is still livid you’ve had a conversation with Robert Nugent.
What’s wrong with these people 🤣

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If Pat stops the filth coming at me then people will say I am controlling him, So you have to let them troll, Next week there will be photos of me sleeping with Fr. Maciel. I don’t. put it past the bastards. So please don’t take it out on Pat. Yes, I do think the comments have to be moderated, but just not against me. We need to tackle the serious issues in a serious way. This will take time.

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1.49. A complete distortion of facts. I get by through having a credit union account. How begrudging you are!! I pay just taxes and all revenue liabilities. Don’t worry, sir. Don’t worry. You are not interested in truth.

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Truth? Truth? As if a priest would make do with a credit union 😂
Incidentally there is no comment at the time you give so perhaps you could check before posting from your rage and hatred, miss.

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2.00: 1.43 is of course the comment I was responding to. The essence of my 1.46 comment still stands as truth. Tough luck if you have difficulty with truth. By being in Credit Union, I am supporting the community. There’s no shame in this.

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2:10 And how nice of you to inspire us all by telling the internet how you help the community. Allegedly.

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I am preparing a pate starter followed by Raymond Blanc’s White onion soup.

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Must call to yours some Sunday Pat, sounds like a menu alright. I love my grub, fat shame me all you want people

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1.35 and 1.36: Pat and Robert, your correspondence is turning into farce and silliness. Please spare us. One of you, sadly, will be very hurt as yet. Pat, why are you printing nonsense comments? They are quickly eroding and diminishing what appeared as a good move forward: you and Robert. The possibility of anything authentic and worthwhile emerging is dying quickly with “raimeas” commentary.

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1.52: You are cute and clever Pat. You know how to make someone look stupid and expose them to ridicule. You and Robert are looking bromantically silly and trivial. This liaison will end in tears. As for a sense of humour!! Well…..you rarely smile..

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Crisis, get a life you, banter is key on this blog as well as the serious questions asked by its moderator

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I’m crying with laughter, you two are so funny but I’m going to have difficulty getting the idea of the sling out of my head 😱

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I will say about Maciel he could never have grown the legion allowing what has happened in Maynooth. I know people will never believe my personal lived experience and so be it. It is possible to go to seminary and not sleep with men, seminaries like that do exist. But there is no convincing people.

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3.06
I have decided to comment now that you have entered the gendre of fiction. Did or do you know P.J. Bonner ?

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Variation in management from one time and place to another aids deniability in my experience of the “armada”.

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Pat, the Robert Nugent comments are surely not those of the Robert you met last week? If you are printing comments by someone using his name, you are definitely hoping for the real Robert to be shredded to pieces. It’s not typical of the Robert who met you. Whats going on?

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PARTY PIECE OF THE LATE FR SEAN CRUMMEY SDB. BELFAST

“I am the King of Siam.
For women I don’t give a dam.
But a good looking boy is always a joy.
They say I’m a bugger.
I am”.

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That was the party piece of Fr Sean Crummey. He recited it when drunk and at clerical dinners.

He once recited it in the presence of Cackle Daly.

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Why are so called educated Christian “Men of God” on here aggressively defending the indefensible. The “pay” must be “neigh”. Flogging a dead horse. Bishop Pat, fair play to you – You give them a forum to EXPOSE themselves! 👀🤣😇

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Remarkable isn’t it, how when clerical child sexual abuse comes up they start ranting about abortion.
If altar boys could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament.

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My brother is in love with a priest who is in love with the mirror and is oblivious to my brothers feelings which is as well as it would ruin a good friendship even though the priest is as gay as the day is long

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Daniel my brother, you are older than me, do you still feel the pain of the scars that won’t heal?

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MBE (McBreartys Ego) is celebrating a feast today with all his gang of mates in Hollywood. He does supply a fantastic spread of food that goes down well with all his visitors.

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I’m actually sick of NHS staff sympathisers. During the first lockdown a Covid nurse that lived beside me never had as much gentlemen callers to his house. Dedication

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Fr Fox(y) is handling more complaints recently than Eugene, are they in the process of moving him on to a different role or is he touring at the minute? Or has Treanor cottoned on to the fact that nobody likes co-operating with a singer

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The cost of living is not sustainable we are really heading for a crisis as even the boss of Tesco has said food prices will be rising by about 15 percent in the next months

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Gary Og – several of our priests have social media sites in our dioceses. They disappear when the priest does but you’ll usually find the priest in the tabloids a few days later. Same old, same old! Pass the Processo, Chrissy!

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Oops! Prosecco!! I’m more used to spelling Bollinger, just throwing a small Sunday lunch today for the “useful foot soldiers” & I’m a bit tired after my flight. Bolly for the big wigs next week! Gotta keep all those balls juggling! I can’t just gallop off into the sunset you know.

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Robert Nugent is not the full shilling. Anything he says is suspect. Just look at his off the wall videos.

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I’ve never known a priest to frequent the cinema so much as ours does, Pat do you go to the cinema?

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2:54, Costa Living – true for you but try telling that to our tubby Parish Priest, they slam down the lids at the soup kitchen on the odd occasion he bothers to show up. Usually midweek when his relations that cook for him would be out at committee meetings & the like. Movers & Shakers the lot of them but you wouldn’t know it to look at them. Price of everything gone sky high. God Help The Homeless & those in fuel & food poverty & God Bless those who help them.

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@950am “Scary to think those questionable characters are running a school in that place in the middle of nowhere. What is TUSLA & The Department of Education doing about it. Well connected cover up exercise. Money speaks allright.”
This is an interesting point. Young boys attending boarding schools which are often in rural isolated locations are very vulnerable. What happened recently in Cistercian Roscrea is testament to this. They are not safe environments for young people. Institutions like Glenstal and Roscrea need 24/7 support from trained professionals. Both these schools staff their boarding houses with unqualified people who are more suited to being prison wardens. There can be a culture of cover up to protect the monks who in both cases are on same campus. Why any parent would send a young boy to these places is beyond my understanding. They would be safer in a detention centre.

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An uncle (the only one of his male siblings in school beyond the Inter, barring some time in the tech) went to a religious boarding school. Whatever happened there was not for his good. He left it early. Some of these places didn’t just have pervs or sadists, but were in fact run by that sort. Buggery and brutality is by design. Soper of Ealing Abbey is a good bad example.

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I agree with this point. Boarding schools are not safe. If you boy is attending a day school he goes home every day to a parent, parents or guardians. Boarding schools are pressure cookers. From a mental health standpoint they are very bad for a teenager. It’s very sad what happened in Roscrea but this is a problem that must be talked about. I am afraid the Cistercians will do what they do best and cover up.

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This is not the forum to discuss about what has happened in Roscrea. It is a tragedy for the family, school and monks. Just drop it.

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3:56 A tragedy which has apparently managed to stay off the internet? I’m looking forward to reading it here shortly.

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3.19: I have some recall about an incident in Roscrea. I do not believe this blog should be used to discuss the incident as there are very serious issues to be concerned about. Uts disgusting to intrude so unfairly and insensitively.

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Bishop Pat, how does TUSLA fit into this? Is it that SMOM was getting ready to dump Dom Henry over a safeguarding concern, but he preempted that by quitting on some pretext?

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Amazing.
I’m sure we will hear more from the “gay community” of Glenstal, as Dom Henry apparently characterised it to Earl Collins.
Brendan Coffey, as presider over this homoerotic sham, isn’t suitable to govern, or make a visitation to, a paper bag.

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Where are the names of the local people on all parish Councils published? They are not on our website or newsletter. Who are these people and what do they do & what power do they have & what decisions can they officially make? They only tell us the name of the Sacristan & the 2 priests on our newsletter.

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2:54 Well Said, Robert Nugent. “What does not break you, makes you”. A sense of humour maintains resilience & serves to also help others less equipped to deal with what’s thrown at them by the hierarchy & to help them to overcome the self interested victim blaming accusations etc. 👍

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There is a pattern of “selectiveness” that is very evident in cases of abuse or gaslighting etc. It is not always “random”, – targets are selected on basis of less risk of “consequences”, so kids of more connected families are generally less likely to be targeted for example. This harks back to the institutional abuse hierarchy, women estranged from families & orphans made easy targets. “Easy Targets” are still “the name of their game” in the 21st Century. Keep Safe. That said, The toffs around here don’t use boarding schools – they drive them miles to the better schools & would mow you down on the road in the process, God Help any cat crossing the road.

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I haven’t been nice to my Aldo Rex today and I would like to publicly state my never ending love and commitment to him.

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I can’t believe that ROBERT NUGENT wants to believe he saw nothing homosexual going on in the Legionaries of Christ. The place was riddled with willy fun.

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I can’t believe that ROBERT NUGENT wants to believe he saw nothing homosexual hoping on in the Legionaries of Christ. The place was riddled with willy fun.

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Alcohol was controlled and very limited (too expensive) we were not allowed into peoples bedrooms. We slept in dormitories sometimes. But I agree with you, if I wasn’t a legionary I would also have said the exact same thing. Most of the men were straight. FYI I don’t really care what people believe anyway, I’m just saying they didn’t tolerate it, that is happened I’m sure it did on some scale. I just didn’t see it.

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Dom at 4:12 and 4:15, when the shit hits the fan the clerics have strangely never seen anything. In fact the independent review into Ealing found it most unlikely they knew nothing when the rugby team used to sing ‘Oh Fr David do not touch me’ and pupils flatly refused to be in a room alone with him.

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3:41pm They won’t let him, they wouldn’t even let him attend their publicly advertised retreats. What about inclusivity- Very unchristian of them. Mind you the grub is good at those retreats & the environment is peaceful but I’d be looking over my shoulder now the next time. I’d love to stay in one of those little beehive things they have in the gardens but now, maybe not. It’s a shame, we fast running out of much needed places of safe contemplation. Their bookshop is lovely. Oh Well, if they throw me out, I can stock up on frozen grub at the farm shop for the Alsatians on my way back to the bogs.

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4.45

” most of the men were straight .” Robert, how did you determine that ? Your comment invites several more questions. I won’t be asking them.

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3:56pm – “Just drop it”. Are you a colleague of Martin who told Rachel to “shut up” earlier today. There must be a training dictionary of those words in the seminaries. Do they train ye to Chant them – Gregorian style?

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“Just drop it, alleluia.
Keep schtum, alleluia.
Say nothing, says the Lord.”
That’s just tickled me lol 😂

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There obviously needs to be a proper structure of inspections to boarding schools in Ireland. The schools can be inspected by Dept of Education under teaching and learning. No system exists to inspect the residential parts of boarding schools. Both TUSLA and Dept of Education wash their hands. We need a system similar to that employed in nursing homes. God only knows what goes on in Glenstal, Clongowes and Roscrea. Accountability is important. None exists in Irish boarding schools.

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I hope +Pat looks into Glenstal and Roscrea. There are massive scandals in these two schools around safeguarding and the lack of a culture of care. Roscrea have been very careful about things getting out. Glenstal are similar. What do both have in common? The owner of the schools live next door! Dom Brendan and Dom Malachy use the tried and tested approach of the Roman Catholic Church, cover up, cover up and cover up.

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@5:03 the Cistercians will be moving from to Melleray soon enough. Probably in a people carrier now as opposed to a minibus there’s so few left

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Roscrea was close to closing a few years back until they upped day pupils and presumably made other changes, hopefully improving safeguarding in the process.

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Ah I was wondering when the cathbots would start trying to deflect to everyone else!
The reason people are so selective is you all refuse to do anything about abuse and think pointing at everyone else is an excuse.

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Are there 10 claims about staff in a CofI school? No.
Or even one claim in one CofI school? No.

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LOL I have participated in blogs and forums about the response to abuse in the Church of England, the Methodist Church, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and the Southern Baptist Convention. I never mention that here because of cathbots trying to deflect attention from themselves.
I have literally never seen that in any other faith group, even at the height of denial about abuse, no other group immediately starts pointing the finger at everyone else. I have a lot of life experience but I honestly think this is the most reprehensible and immoral thing I have ever seen.

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Another example of the power of the Catholic Church. They would have resisted accountability in the past half century. We are now left with a system not fit for purpose. Heartbreaking to think of how many children are inflicted with this archaic regime.

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4.43: God only knows what goes in in …… State your suspicions and concerns. You are making serious allegations. It’s necessary for you to validate your concerns. Has there been any reports into named Colleges? Can you tell us the content of any such reports? It’s easy to make allegations or make innuendo…

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The point the person is making is that issues are being covered up. I am not sure what reports you are seeking? From whom? The standard response of the RCC for years has been to shout out ‘Where is the written proof’. We all know what went on! There was nothing put in writing. Fr covered up for Fr. Denial after denial. Resulting in generations of children leaving these institutions damaged. You are a fool if you think anything has changed in boarding schools.

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6.02: There’s a principle in the courts of law: “Innocent till proven guilty”. It’s a noble aspiration and very solemn. I do not deny the truth that abuses took place in boarding schools. I went to day school for 3 years where physical and verbal abuse were a daily occurrence. Though I did well at this school , I’ll never forget those incidents for many of us – iften for silly, trivial reasons. I then went to a boarding school for a further 3 years where I never encountered abuse of any kind from the religious or lay teachers. They were often cross and very disciplined and exacting but forty four years later I am grateful for the wonderful education given to all of us and the college never had any accusation levelled against it. I accept unequivocally that abuses have occured. The point I make is that people on this blog often make allegations about individuals and groups but never provide any validation for their allegations. In fact they often suggest through hearsay and innuendo that horrible things took place or are happening but rarely provide proof. Justice is never reached by cowardly allegations from laptops , innuendo or hearsay. We have to be careful about the nature of allegations we make. Surely you are aware of this fact by listening to the many court cases re: abuses, domestic violence and defamation. Judges are prudent about information they receive. Incidentally, in the search for justice many individuals have been falsely accused. TRUTH matters when JUSTICE is sought.

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7:20 Another diversion and the reason you keep demanding reports is you only want the level of evidence of a criminal trial to pertain.
In reality a lower standard of evidence is required for safeguarding action to be taken.
If you feel unwarranted allegations about safeguarding are being made on this blog the responsible thing to do is encourage those making the claims to raise them. Raving about proof merely indicates you don’t want anything done or raised without a criminal trial level of evidence. These claims cannot have that level of proof because they haven’t been through court so all you are doing is trying to prevent valid criticism.

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If I was prime minister the first thing I would do is make all schools boarding schools. Keep the bloody melters away

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7.42: If you have serious concerns about safeguarding issues, do the right thing and go to the Gardai or TUSLA. Anyone who makes an allegation must be believed. But suggesting by innuendo or hearsay that abuse is occurring is not validation. The onus is on you now to report any suspicions or concerns you have. In the past I reported two such concerns to relevant authorities and was proved correct in my concerns. I have never prevented valid criticisms of abuse. Ever. Nor have I personally ever equivocated on the moral horror and criminality of sexual abuse because I had that experience as a teenager. But I also know I cannot fling allegations at anyone and if I do I also know my moral and civic responsibilities.

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‘I have never prevented valid criticisms of abuse.’
In that case you won’t mind producing evidence of that. This is only what you require of others.

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Dom Henry will have to remove the Maltese cross from his arms. It leaves a nasty blank space, so I suggest one of the following replacements:
🧑🏼‍🦱👨🏻‍🦰🧔🏼‍♀️👰🏼‍♂️👨‍❤️‍👨👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨🦄🌈🍆🍑🍌🦴🍩🍾🏳️‍🌈

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Bishop Pat, please pray for Mr Thomas Niland in Sligo as his condition in hospital has deteriorated following a cowardly attack at his isolated home by three men earlier in the week. The local Garda Superintendent has confirmed all stops are out to apprehend these individuals. Thank you. 🙏

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Pat,
Retired Garda Sept Martin Ridge who exposed the child abuse scandal in Donegal has died. RIP.
The notorious Eugene Green and the pervert school teacher McGinleywere up to their necks in abusing children all suitably covered up by the late Bishop of Raphoe Hegarty.
Well done Martin. Unlike those others you were a good and faithful servant.

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6.10
A good man….and rare in those environs. That organisation went out of its way to cover up for clergy, teachers (and others) and themselves. You can be sure he did not have an easy life after being so courageous and honourable . He did, we can be sure, have peace of mind. No price for that….no salary, no wage can buy that….

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If both the knights and you are banned from Glenstal, you could apply to become Chaplain to the Knights now there’s a vacancy.
Ps: what was the retreat you wanted to attend? What did the Abbot say in his reply? Which Abbot?

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I hope many readers of this blog have reconsidered the awful comments yesterday about Scotland’s bishops. The new Archbishop is a fine man, slandered by many commentators on this blog. Please reconsider you views.

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7.24
You could be George Bergoglio …..after the evening meal and some wine……almost. A ‘fine man’ has not been appointed for many many many years…..and there is no-one in Argentina who would have made the same plea on your own appointment Foly Hather.

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6:10pm. God Rest His Soul. May he Rest in Peace. There is another Martin Ridge who used to work for NAMA. He is now Director of Property at Maynooth.

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What kind of parasites would target a pensioner like that? They had a car, probably had more money themselves than the pensioner they preyed on.

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The letter written by Dom Brendan O’ Shea to the Knights of Malta is brilliantly crafted. Isn’t it a joy to read letters and comments by people with a clear and beautiful command of the English language. Few attain this ability. His craft is very enlightening about the proper use of words and grammatical construction of sentences. Compare his style and content to some of the illiterate garbage on this blog!

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8.01: Pat, I enjoy your blog. I wasn’t referring to you but to those who post inane and silly, sometimes, inarticulate nonsense. You recognise these people yourself, surely! Cogently articulated opinions are important when discussing serious issues.

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“Isn’t it a joy to read of news articles, and comments by people, about the clear and beautiful way in which the British judiciary discharge their authority… especially in persuit of openes and transparency? I have heard it said: “Few judges attain this and are unable to understand; their craft is very enlightening, to say the least, regarding the proper use of openness and honesty in pursuit of public justice. Grammatical errors, such as ‘sentence’ or ‘sentenced’ are of little importance in the Civil Courts…”

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Bishop Pat, I, for one, am most grateful to find a true Temple of Truth here on this blog even if that upsets the gaslighter clergy & attendant possey who are hissing & spitting on here 24/7.
X marks the spot!

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Pat, I have just stumbled upon Robert’s latest you tube videos. Very interesting. He is of the conviction that both of you are devising plans as a blueprint to ensure truth and justice pertaining to sexual abuse issues, abuse of seminarians, the mental and spiritual wellbeing/malaise of priests etc are finally unveiled….It is quite a change of direction for you to cooperate with someone who has just come to your and our attention recently. I am impressed by his video on depression…and moreso by his invitation to men – including priests – to seek help when in difficulties of any kind. It is a very positive invitation expressed with care. What are you planning? Quite apart from the serious matters you expose, perhaps not always in the kindest of ways, I seriously believe priests do urgently need much psychological and spiritual care today. Undoubtedly I’ll be lampooned for saying this but it is expressed because of personal experiences. But I’m prepared to dialogue despite opposition.

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Can I ask people to please go and actually talk to Pat Buckley about the problems they have faced. The man is a walking encyclopaedia.

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Always aim for dialogue, and never stop being open to dialogue; but if dialogue doesn’t work — then you must try other ways to ensure your safeguarding concerns are acknowledged and understood, and, with the gravitas that safeguarding concerns demand!

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6:02pm – even when evidence provided, they still do nothing except deny & cover up or as a last resort when the lies fail to wash anymore, they disappear but on full salary. Not a bad old number but nothing done to redress their victims. Same old story.

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Said Desmond Carroll (restauranteur from Co Louth) used to be a novice in Glenstal only a few years ago. The plot thickens…

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