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SILVERSTREAM’S GAY PORN PROBLEM.

Mark Kirby, against all normal protocol for a religious superior, got all the young monks to go to Confrssion to him and open up about all their problems, and then told all the monks each others private faults.

He even shared the monks private issues with lay visitors over tea.

One of those secrets he shared was Dom Elijah’s problem with gay porn.

In spite of the fact that Elijah was the cellar man and ordered all the supplies, Kirby ordered that he could only be on the computer with all the office doors opened whereby he could be monitored.

All the monks could only access their emails on the omputer in the library.

Kirby was the only one allowed a computer in his cell.

FROM A FORMER MONK NOW LIVING IN EUROPE

“My point, Bishop Pat in telling you about Elijah and porn, was less about Elijah and his struggles and more about the way that Kirby has violated the privacy of every single man who has come into that religious house. And it’s all the more serious in light of the fact that even the sham visitation pointed out that there were egregious violations of the internal forum, including that Kirby himself was hearing the confessions of his subjects.

My personal view is that Kirby has almost certainly violated the seal in some way; the problem is that I cannot prove it.

Then there is the issue of medical our medical data protection. He spread the monks struggles far and wide, and I know that he shared about others’ struggles with people as well.

He even wrote into the constitutions (an article struck down by the visitation) that he had to have eyes and ears in the medical exam room, and the infirmarian (his representative) had to dole out medications for all of the brethren.

We had to have our medications doled out to us like patients in a mental institution. And Kirby would even overrule the doctor’s instructions about medications and when and how to take them

PAT SAYS

The more you discover about Silverstream you more you see that Robert Bugent is right about it being a cult.

Every aspect of each monks life was minutely controlled by Kirby.

It is a disgrace that he insisted that all the monks used him as a confessor. This does not happen anywhere else.

It is a disgrace that he had full access to all the monks private medical data.

It is a disgrace that he discussed one monks medical data with other monks.

It is a disgrace that he gossiped about monks private and medical information with lay people who visited Silverstream.

The monks at Silverstream may not know or admit the control Kirby had and still has.

They are literally prisoners of Kirby.

They are like mice that Cat Kirby plays with.

It is a thundering disgrace that people like Tom Deenihan is allowing this virtual prison to operate in his diocese.

Silverstream is a Cult gulag.

162 replies on “SILVERSTREAM’S GAY PORN PROBLEM.”

Confessions in the Gun Chapel in Maynooth in my time…..I now apply a different critique to what was going on……..Years after ordination, I met a guy who had left in my time……a most honourable guy, then and now. He told me he had gone to Twohy ( the Vincentian light bulb) to ” confess” to him that he thought he was gay….that repressed dickhead said to him ” you should leave, we only want people from normal families here.” Never did once a normal guy ever get ordained…..why if you like food would you ever say you would prefer not to eat….yes in time to come Science will explain it. Pornography was/is an aural adventure for many the Confessor. Incidentally, Robert Nugent is a study on matters free-style to marriage that he is prohibitive of….

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How come this intrusion into personal aspects of monks life by Kirby etc is allowed to go on when the News bulletins are full of court reports about people finally being called to account for the crime of coercive control. Kirby is not a doctor, he has no qualifications or right to adjust medications for anyone. Someone could die. Does the law of the land not apply to the RCC in Ireland? That probably explains why clergy supping with the law.

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11.45: Of course the laws of the land apply to clerics.. Rightly so. For too long many in the hierarchical church tbought they were above the law. In all things – revenue, Gardai vetting, taxes, car loans, paying liabilities, not deceiving, not defrauding, visiting accredited doctors, getting my medication from trusted chemist etc….I abide by the laws of the land. I am.not in cahoots with any one. a I’m a pay as you get it type if person. No bills. No backlog. Just gay it.

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Pat, another nail in the coffin for Silverstream. Undoubtedly. With all due respect to RN, he only arrived at the truth by appearing on your blog which is only very recently. Many commenters made that observation along with yourself, months, perhaps years, before RN. Remember, he was an OBLATE, a supporter, was a close friend of Kirby, betrayed Dom Benedict. He then made a complete turnaround after you and others chaenged him to see clearly. Pat, RN has lost any credibility and integrity re: Silverstream. Wasn’t he still asking in comments yesterday to have respect and kindness for Kirby and all the monks, to be aware of the mental effects on the monks of all this publicity? Please Pat, other commenters deserve admiration for seeing the sad and awful reality of this monastery long before RN. You should not attach any credibility to this man, RN. He is, I believe doing better work on his videos where he inspires with some of his sharing. But on Silverstream, No! Your information today should move Bishop Deenihan to act promptly. We should pray for the young monks for their safety and well being.

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Bring in the parish of Clara ( Absolutely nothing to do with Michael Meade….as honourable as priests get…..but Michael Smith….Florida….Rehabilitaion. This site joins dots….just need a bit of an nudge here !!!!!

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Fr Michael Meades service for tragic Ashling Murphy was very touching and poignant. A job very well done in her memory, I can not believe it’s been over a month already.

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The daily RN rant, get over yourself and stop calling his family. He’s done a lot more than you anonymous trolls ever have

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It is dreadful that a monk’s name should have been mentioned on this blog. It would have been far better to say “a monk’s issue with porn” and leave it at that. If this blog is about seeking reform, justice and healing, this is an inappropriate way off going about it and not at all effective, and the naming of an individual as above is totally abhorrent. IF TRUE and IF the admission of the monk was made within the internal forum and then spoken of openly, it was a grave violation of the seal of confession and the mention of his name on this blog has added to that breach and the injury caused to the monk in question. I note that the accuser/ former monk is permitted his privacy and yet the poor monk has not been afforded the same discretion.
It is clear that Anonymous at 11.34pm “gets off” on such stuff as evidenced in his remarks. This further demonstrates the veracity of allegations previously made here that this blog, and the way subject matter is treated, is largely about titillation rather than the purported aims it is said to pursue.
This blog has succeeded in further victimising a victim, whatever the weaknesses/ failings of the victim MAY have been.

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10:29, … and thus as superior he plays an ongoing and central role in the continued abusive treatment of Dom Anderson.

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1:00 makes a fair point. The accuser is allowed privacy while the errant monk is not afforded the same discretion. It seems harsh on the errant monk.
The errant monk’s collusion against Dom Benedict Andersen is disgraceful however. There can be no discretion around that.

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Robert Nugent said he would sort out the Kirby problem in seven days. He also said he would get Dom Benedict sorted. Now he has disappeared to Mexico without doing anything and has resorted to his right wing preaching of Catholic caca. He is all hot air and talk. Typical Cathbot kissing bishops asses.

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Clown comment, from the usual cowardly trolls who like to threaten people’s families.

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@ bishoppat 10:29 am First I applaud you for allowing my criticism. I don’t think the monk being prior makes a difference. He is still a victim of the former prior. He may not realise that yet, but that does not change the facts as related. One day he may wake up and smell the coffee, I hope so. Maybe not a lot going on in his attic.

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RN has lost credibility after he accepted evidence that contradicted his previous position and followed his acceptance by promoting the truth.
Begs the question what do people like you consider a meaningful way of keeping or gaining credibility? Seems that you are more interested in discrediting RN than finding the truth and promoting a just solution to the scandal.

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A lot of the trolls here, are obsessed with RN, and no doubt many of them were the ones harassing his wife and kids. He’s done a lot more than any of you cowardly trolls ever will.

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11:38 The real reason they’re obsessed is they’re looking for the father figure conspicuously missing in their own upbringing and which they have failed to find on Grindr.

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11.48: I agree with every word you’ve expressed. I think our prayers are a necessity now that someone with real authority and pastoral concern must assume the role of carer for this monastery so that other proper decisions are made. Could it be that we are being most unkind, I wonder? But pray for them, we must.

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I imagine it’s difficult for Dom Elijah to knock one out in his habit in the library
with open doors. I hope Kitty is given credit for his novel solution to combatting this filthy habit and that our resident cartoonist depicts the scenario for us.

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Pat, did you read today’s Irish Times about that wretched and evil Religious Sisters of Charity rezoning lands to sell at 50 Million. These lands were donated by Irish citizens and should be gifted back to the State for social housing or community initiatives. They made 208
Staff redundant by offering statutory redundancy, and a good will gift of 3k, take it or leave it. They ascribe to the ideal that they give to the poor what the rich can afford. Whatever about Mary who is not very Christian, I am surprised about Sr Stan. Compensate the women that your congregation abused and gift to the redress scheme.

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The “evil” Sisters of Charity! The land was given for a particular purpose. Modern society has rendered that purpose obsolete so the Sisters get to use the same land for a different, similar purpose. They will. And when they do they will do it, hopefully, in a way that cuts out the neo-liberal builders and disgustingly anti-Catholic state. They will do it in a way that makes the land available for social housing, something that no cosseted clergyman can appreciate.
Are you seriously complaining that people were made redundant and got their entitlements plus 3,000? Are the employees entitled to a job for life now? Get a grip and put down the Orish Tomes. Think for yourself. Take a few deep breaths and try to be less outraged.

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12:11 Not all nuns in the Sister of Charity are “parasites”, no more than all Benedictines are abusers like Kirby, that’s wanna be Hitler style talk. Grow up.

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My experiences of nuns is not good. They are mostly nasty closeted angry women with very little to offer the world.

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This is about doing the right thing. The congregation did wrong, pay up and do not hide within legalities that are self-focused. Check out their new accommodation in Donnybrook, far from the 3k handshake we were offered as employees but in their terms lay associates

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3.41: Sadly, the evil is in you and very much alive. What a distortion, perverted comnent! You should get your facts correct.You are evil in intent.

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4.28: Jealousy and begrudgery are nasty traits, very nasty. You are so, so wrong. Vindictive even.

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3.41: You are are pure evil. Satan is in you go make such a hate comment. Get behind mecsatan…Quincy. 👹👹👹👹👹👹👿👿👿

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Classic Catholicism – masturbation/porn the Big Sin – once confessed or known about becomes local and common knowledge (within the-religious community and even wider).
Person is humiliated and publicly flogged by people who masturbate and use porn (but would never confess for fear of it being proclaimed from the rooftops).
Oh the stench of hypocrisy.
The idea of the seal of the confessional is a veritable myth – and Kirby and cult leaders in Opus Dei, Neo Cat and Covenant Communities are all the same – obsessed with sex, porn, masturbation and their biggest vice – CONTROL.
If you go to Confession anywhere in the world and confess to gossip, hatred, greed, etc the priest nods off so bored is he – mention porn and mastutbation and he’s wide awake – ever keen to probe the details.
Don’t believe me? Try it and you’ll see.

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What is the role of the Bishop of the diocese in this matter? Has he responsibilities in resolving difficulties at Silverstream Priory?

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If we ourselves are seeking truth and justice and a remedying of this monastery – and if we are being truly serious – there can be no place for gratuitous, sexualized imagery placed on anyone’s body or over doors. This is a gross abuse in itself. Lets act as marure, caring adults. These men are human beings who need professional pastoral care. Caricaturing and ridiculing so horribly will not achieve anything. There are wrongs: they be been expressed.. Lets now show some real care ourselves for the mental, emotional and spiritual well being of all. The naming of monks about their personal behaviour is morally abhorrent. Naming names in this context could lead to fatal acts of harm. Surely we.must all now realise the potential for serious harm at this moment? I just ask for restraint.

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It’s a shame, for sure, but there would be no naming of anybody had Dom Mark Kirby not violated the secrecy of the internal forum.

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Can he not be prosecuted for this? This is why a lot of young men stop doing to confession in our Parish. They were allegedly getting quizzed about certain aspects of what they had to say.

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The priest in my parish is a blabber mouth and there is no way I would be telling him my confession as he would tell everyone.

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Could you please lead a prayer day for the catholic and orthodox Christians of eastern Europe?
Better than gay gossip and victimisation..John 8!

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Mark Kirby likes men under 30
Seduction with, a little flirty
Brendan Coffey took over the reign
Another man with no brain
Silverstream is clearly a cult
Target group is, a young adult
To diocese Meath from Tulsa
This group really is, REPULSa

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the poet- yours truly-
is a nice little guy, if a little unruly.
He loves the church with all his heart,
and from his gut, is fond of a wee apple tart.
His poems are greeted by some with disdain,
while all he wants to do is clean the stain
of filth and rubbish and all sorts of crap,
instead of ranting, we should give him a clap.
Love from your daily poet x

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The Irish government is to publish new legislation into dealing with mass graves at Tuam. Mostly babies and toddlers but also mums. Sad reflection of history for Ireland.

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As usual the marginalised groups that history proves to continue to discriminate against; poor, women, children, lgbt group, Non white. You only need to be defined in one of these groups to suffer, god bless if you should be a few of them.

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There’s mass graves all over Ireland and they date from periods up to and including the Great Famine. If you are trying to suggest there was some wrongdoing there just go ahead and say it. There will be no effective legislation emanating from the Irish gubberemnt on anything, they’re incapable of writing it. They’re pretty stupid but they’re clever enough to know they’re out of their depth.

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The Irish government is going to be busy with unmarked graves, the country is full of them. Ordinary people in Ireland only had individual graver markers from approx. the early 20th century onwards. Only from my Grandparent’s time is there any individual grave markers. None of my great Grandparents graves are marked in any way, nor their parents before them. Even today our local hospital uses a mass unmarked grave to bury babies who die early term in pregnancy, or incinerates them with no remains being kept.

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This is good news, hopefully now this can help to heal old wounds of the past and build for for a better future and understanding regarding trust and accountability. Certainly given the serious and sensitive nature.
Please God bring healing and love about here x

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Errant Clergymen:
Group 1: Are weak and have fallen and failed but who were not engaged in any form of abuse.
Group 2: Are deliberately living a double life without feeling any remorse and with every intention to keep living like that.
Does the subject of today’s blog fall within Group 1 or Group 2?

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Elijah is complicit in the continued abuse of Don Benedict. And no one would be talking about any of Elijah’s problems had the previous superior of Silverstream not violated the internal forum. Elijah is a victim here too but he continues to project the man who victimized him, and to abuse the man who stuck his neck out to reveal abuse.

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Of course one of the great ironies is that Fr Benedict himself was accused of indirect violation of the seal!

Irony also that it’s Mark Kirby who can celebrate the sacraments as he pleases (“in good standing”) yet it’s Fr Benedict who has been pushed out and is in canonical limbo.

This Church is very, very sick.

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11:00 am. That’s a miracle, thank God. That is a textbook way for bishops and superiors to deal with inconvenient priests.

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10:58, that irony immediately jumps out alright. A dubious accusation was weaponised against Dom Benedict Andersen. A blind eye has been turned to a credible accusation against DMK. A microcosm of repeated problems for sure.

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Gay porn is all about lust. Not about love. That atypical of gay men though right? Most are adept to true love.

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Holding the Man is great. I would like to know if Bill Mulvihill has seen it as I appreciate his opinions.

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11:41, please God no, we don’t want some patronising mid wit’s banal essay, who thinks he’s profound in some way. We want dirt here and lots of it.

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Rape is about power not sex. Sex can either be for love or lust or both if you are lucky.

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All porn is about lust, and making money from it, and about seeing human beings as just objects to be used and manipulated in order gratify your basest cravings. It requires ever more and more exposure to get the same “thrill”.

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Surely someone is going to hold Mark Kirby accountable for his actions. What has he got over Deenihan that he is blatantly ignoring all this issues you raise?

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The only one that can do anything about Kirby is Deenhian, and it looks like he’s never going to. What’s he got over Deenihan? The same thing the Lavender Mafia have over all Bishops and Cardinals, and the same likely reason Kirby was given his own priory, despite his previous form in the USA. The Lavender mafia have all the lurid homosexual activities of each other so they either have to support their fellow Lavendar mafia members, or get their own homosexual antics and/or mismanagement exposed. It’s a bit like asking what do IRA members have over more senior IRA members. Lots.

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I will never listen to Michelle harp on about womens rights and abortion when she stole another woman’s husband and is shackled up with him atm. Sinn Fein – let’s kill babies and steal married men

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I’ve just watched Robert’s video from Mexico recorded at 5.30 am ocal time. It is very reflective and timely as we approach Lent. As I’ve said before, this is the real power, gift and strength of Robert. I pray he stays with this ministry. Sadly, when he was drawn into the Silverstream and other controversies, he was forced into a demeanour of expression that was most likely to be controversial and to draw him into a very unpleasant exchange of views. Robert, your ability to communicate on faith, prayer and truths of our Catholic faith are wonderful. Keep with this ministry and you will achieve much good. Thank you.

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I would say they all have issues with porn in that place, sure what other pleasure would they get? To think a young man would willingly sign up for that place baffles me.

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2:06, well according to the daily repeated top priorities here, it’s about sex, power, politics, money, and jerking off.

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I’d be very happy in a priory or monastery if I could find one I one properly managed that I could trust, sadly I don’t think there are any these days. What’s evident from this blog is everyone is now obsessed with sex, money, politics and porn these days instead, regardless if they are religious or not, so I don’t fit in anywhere in this so called society/world, nor do I wan to if that’s all people spend most of their lives on.

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Life in a priory would/should be peaceful and simple. A lot to be said for this way of life.

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Pat Buckley , l would love to know your address ,so that l can come and visit you ,and give you a message from Father Jim ,you are beyond shame ,a self appointed Bishop who seriously needs medical help,l truly hope that you die soon from instant Cancer,and go straight to Hell without delay where you will meet all the evil persons who you will know .l only need 10 minutes of your time to let you know the facts .
Fr Jim is in Heaven with the Lord our God.

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I can truthfully say that I have arranged my life to ensure that by their reckoning I won’t end up where the ‘catholics’are. I think this little gamble will pay off in the long run, judging by the threats they dish out.

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Harold Bloom lauded Chaucer as one of the best western writers of all time. I am particularly fond of his ‘The book of the Duchess’.

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Most of them will feel quite at home then since they appear to spend a lot of time in back passages. 🤨

And not because they might be indulging in such acts but because of the hypocrisy of professing one thing and living another

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“The road to hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lampposts that light the path.” — John Chrysostom 347 – 407AD
An interesting quote from Chrysostom who was an important Early Church Patristic who served as archbishop of Constantinople. Mostly known for his preaching and public speaking; his denunciation of abuse of authority — by both Church and political leaders of his Era. — ‘Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom, and his ascetic sensibilities.’

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What an obnoxious comment 2.33pm. We all have faults but anyone making a comment like that towards bishop Buckley deserves to be thrown into the gutter. Such filth.l

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The irony of your comment is that in complaining about someone proposing one course of action, you feel that the same action is appropriate for someone else to be put through. Back to school, Aine dearie. Clearly you never studied logic in seminary.

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@2:33pm

You are truly beyond shame, what a disgraceful threat to post. You should be reported, and how do you know this Fr. Jim whoever he is, is in heaven. One thing is for sure you won’t be going their.

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So let’s get this clear: the then cellarer wasn’t allowed by Kirby to access the internet in private because he would surf porn?
And all the other monks accessed their email on a computer in the library but Kirby had his own computer in his room? (Actually you would think St Theresa could read his email to him, but that’s another matter).
Here’s the thing: if a number of users access the network and nobody needs to surf porn and you’re worried about a scandal if your computer needs fixing and the engineers look at your browser history, the obvious way around this is to put parental controls on the whole network. Then nobody can access porn and you don’t have to keep an eye on Elijah.
The fact that Kirby didn’t put parental controls on the network and has a computer in his room suggests he is surfing stuff which wouldn’t be allowed by the parental control filter.
Just sayin’. Cos if nobody is using porn you just don’t need it.

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That’s true you know, my aunty used to be a hairdresser. She mostly used to do the rounds for some of the pensioners’ homes and some community centres in Liverpool — when I was about 10 to 12 I’d help her un-pack the book of her car and I’d set up the perm/set/dryer on the stand and get her utensils to hand.
I’d even mix the perm set with the little black tub and hold it for her whilst she did their hair.
Old ladies love their perms and colour rinses, it’s almost like a religious ritual to them lol.
I’d make cups of tea with biscuits and wheel the little trolley round the communal room of the centre or old people’s homes.
I used to sing and entertain them too by doing impresinations of people off the tele, I’m not even messing lol.
I was brilliant at doing Dot Cotton, Pat Butcher, Frank Butcher, and Bianca moaning at dopey Riki.
Good old days lol 😊 x

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Has King Puck been keeping a low profile also? Wasn’t he and Mark very good friends who would wine and dine together?

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A local lay person must have Lisbreen on speed dial for she makes endless complaints, all of which are baseless and is tantamount to harassing of the priest who should be made a saint.

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The world is on the verge of world war 3 and Donald Trump has stated if he was in power Russia would be too scared to invade Ukraine and China would not be contemplating taking control of Taiwan again. Having catholics in charge of anything, let alone the free world is a disaster. I hope Americans never elect a RC again. While the world blows itself up, Joe is having his afternoon nap.

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I buried my auntie yesterday morning and I was told to contact you on this blog about the priests behaviour. He would not allow my cousins to keep her body in the church on Sunday so we could all have a break, he said the security of the church is paramount to parishioners needing a ‘break’ during a wake and that he was not obliged to permit this. Is this true Bishop?

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Hi Anna May, I’m sorry to hear of the upset you describe of yourself and your loved ones. It sounds a difficult one for sure and my love and prayers are with you and your loved ones.
I don’t know the correct answer, but I do agree priests should be as understanding as possible in these circumstances.
Maybe the priest could have been a little more understanding, that’s my view.
I think sometimes clergy can be so busy with lots of different things that they often become “desensitised”, if that makes sense? A bit like when doctors and nurses work in a hospital?
I think women priests can seem a bit more sensitive to these things than us men, you know what men can be like in general.. just ask anybody whose ever been married to a man.
Also, only occasionally, has it has been known for church buildings to be burglarized and personal possessions stolen over night, things like jewellery. If such a thing had happened before then it could be a bit unerving for a priest or vicar having to explain this to the loved ones..
I’m not good at these things, but I hope I have helped a little bit here.
May God bless you Anna May and your loved ones, my love and prayers. Peter x

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Surely Kirby has the rainbow flag painted over the front door in support of the NHS and not as a LGBT symbol?

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The power struggle continues in St Pats and it will only be a matter of time before Tony has to step up and run his old parish. Noel Treanor is at his wits end with these two constantly bickering and undermining each other.

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What is the power struggle about? Eugene is the parish priest and all power lies on his shoulders. Is Tony trying to oust him?

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DUP Stalfords death cert will make interesting reading. I for one will be applying for it as it’s a matter of public interest.

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@5.41pm Would probably be more interesting going through your family’s death certs and browsing history.

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Have you seen Ant and Dec in the news for dressing up as drag queens for a charity over in England? They do look the part and I would love to see more straight men like priests, builders, sports men etc embrace this and a different culture

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I’m sure Decs brother who is a priest will be horrified at this. He is being real shame on his family.

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Oh I know. I’d be so embarrassed if my brother became a priest and brought shame on the family.

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Congregations to majority Russian peoples of Luhansk and Donetsk today, who will finally have their will respected and their independence from Ukraine, and will be protected by their fellow Russian people from the far right sectarian Ukrainian forces. No different to the nationalist peoples of South Armagh, Derry etc. finally getting to join Ireland.

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Russia is claiming back what is rightfully theirs and Putin wants his name remembered in the history books.

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It’s not easy living in a 5 bedroom mansion on your own in the winter while drug addicts shoot up on presbytery grounds. Worse so when you are on the emergency phone and have to leave in the middle of the night.

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Try a small 3 bedroom terrace house with 5 kids, no gas and no electric, noisy neighbours to the left, a gay bike to the right and no street lights and then tell me what’s worse

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Pat do you like red wine? May I recommend one I tried the other day? 19 Crimes. If you have not sampled already and you are a red wine fan I highly recommend it and it is not expensive. Enjoy

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I feel uneasy about this blog.
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It is sufficient to say you believe he broke the seal of confession. There is no need to repeat the sin and identify the confessee on the internet. It feels almost like it is one step removed from breaking the seal of confession, but also worse by publishing it in the media. We have no way of knowing if this man truely had a problem with porn (of any nature). The story may also be a malicious falsehood designed to detract and defame.
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I believe that if I hard such a story I should feel vexed that the seal was broken, but feel obliged to maintain the confidence of the confessional if responding.

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Silverstream and the Diocese of Meath must be thick with literal demonic energy. The whole saga bears the unmistakable signature of the infernal. I would be very interested to hear an opinion on this from a reasonable, approved exorcist.

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The link between a dysfunctional Silverstream and the post-Tridentine Mass of 1570 is worth investigating.

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@ 6:42 pm

No link there, it could be worse they could be using the very dysfunctional and divisive Novus Ordo. So we can be thankful at least they are celebrating The Most Holy Sacrifice of The Mass as it should be.

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7.54
There’s nothing divisive about the reformed Mass of the Roman rite. It’s the only show in town in the Latin church as Traditionis custodes makes abundantly clear. The Second Council of the Vatican is the church’s magisterium. Don’t call yourself a Roman Catholic if that’s not you.

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The TLM seems to be about the only thing Silverstream got right. Kirby strikes me as someone much more suited to new age type mass with liturgical dancing, out of tune guitar strumming, tambourines, reader’s digest jokes and cheap felt banners.

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The trad stuff is a very late Kirby revelation, as I think this blog has discussed before. He used to be a partisan of the liturgical reform. It’s why Silverstream has been so attractive. That was a stroke of genius on Kirby’s part.

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8:16, exactly, Kirby seems to be putting on an act designed to attract as many as possible, knowing full well the TLM world is far more attractive and authentic looking to the youth of today than the empty immature dippy hippy crap of the 60’s that belongs to embarrassing oldies at this stage. He’s no more genuine TLM than the man in the moon.

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Reading and completing a book during Lent is a Benedictine custom. I read somewhere that at Silverstream the book was chosen for each monk by the superior as an act of obedience. Allowing the monks the freedom of making their own choice might lead to disastrous results.

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I know a former novice of Silverstream. They were not even allowed their choice of monastic names, which is customary (submitting three to the superior, from which he would choose). Rather, Kirby would supposedly receive charismatic revelations about the choice of name. It’s all a bit spooky, if you ask me.

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From chapter 48 of the Rule of St Benedict

During the days of Lent, they should devote themselves to reading from the morning until the end of the third hour; and from then until the tenth hour they should do the work assigned to them. In these days of Lent they should each receive a book from the library, to be read straight through in its entirety. These books are to be given out at the beginning of Lent.

TBH reading a book picked by someone else may expose you to things you would otherwise miss?

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Pat, why in this day and age do you think all these homosexuals are so attracted to be clergy and religious, is it because they think that being one is the only thing that’s going to stop them acting on their homosexual desires? It seems bizarre, like a heterosexual man thinking joining the Priesthood will stop him acting on his heterosexual desires. An actual serious spiritual vocation is required, and none of the problematic guys in Silverstream strike me as having genuine vocations, they seem to be just more narcissist interesting in larping about in costume and playing the surface part of what they think a monk is. Maybe that’s harsh, but that’s the surface level impression I get from what I’ve seen so far.

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To add to the above, what I mean is I as a spiritual Christian, I know I’m called to be a lay person and live in the world as best I can. I can understand a call to a religious vocation, but for me to have ever even considered it, it would not just have to be just some nice idea or notion, it would have to be a totally overwhelming spiritual conviction on a deep level that I would have no cares of interests in the draws of this world, nor even think much about them ever again.

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They love the men too much, Bp Pat; they’re probably bored looking at each others, so resort to porn for a change. I expect BlacksForDaddies will be popular amongst the bottoms at Silverstream.

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One truly wonders what the clergy of Meath think about their (relatively) new bishop and the utter mess he presides over in Stamullin. The clergy of Cork, meanwhile, sing solemn Te Deum’s daily for their deliverance.

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Good evening Patrick,

In my considerable years as a priest in County Armagh and Louth, I thought I might remark on the disgraceful lack of honour which has become apparent in relatively recent times in this jurisdiction, from younger priests.
I pray daily that the stories I hear are untrue, but if so, leave huge gaps in a number of areas – least of all fidelity. I struggle to carry out my duties often, but I do not allow myself to live a life of waywardness.
I feel a serious attempt at re-engaging with young clerics is necessary. I will be addressing my superiors about my concerns in due course.

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