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REVEREND MOTHER OF TEGELEN CONVENT IS TOTALLY OBSESSED WITH KIRBY.

MOTHER IMMACULATA FRANKEN

ONE OF MOTHER IMMACULATA WEIRD TEXT MESSAGES MESSAGES TO KIRBY.

She woke up and saw Jesus and he told her to suffer rather than leave Kirby.

Apparently on visits to Silverstream she went completely hysterical if Kirby did not spend enough time with her?

Kirby used to beseech the other monks for advice and how to deal with her and handle her.

THE THIN LINE BETWEEN MYSTICISM AND MENTAL ILLNESS.

As a Christian a priest and bishop I do of course believe that God is able to and does speak to certain people.

But in general God uses other people and daily circumstances to communicate with us.

Occasionally, God raises up mystics like St John of the Cross, St Teresa of Avila etc and communicates with them.

DOM KIRBY AS MYSTIC?

Book by Dom Kirby

I do not believe that Dom Mark Kirby is a mystic or that Jesus was speaking to him from the tabernacle.

Kirby has and has always had, serious psychological and emotional problems.

His sexual abuse as a child, which he has never really come to terms with, has left him seriously psychologically scarred.

His failure to accept his homosexual orientation and to hide behind the holy, chaste, celibate monk image is a serious case of sexual repression and sublimation.

His habit of expressing his sexuality by his fascination with younger men and having whoopsie moments with them of genital exposure is very disordered.

In Sinu Jesu Mark Kirby is trying to reinvent himself as a “saint” in order to cope with the ‘sinner” he really believes he is.

That it became a spiritual best seller says more about the minds of the buyers and readers than it does anything else.

Why is it human beings are always in search of new gurus and Christians are not satisfied with Jesus Christ?

NUN STALKERS

Nuns stalking priests is by no means a new phenomenon.

I had two nun stalkers as a younger priest.

They would beg me to let them do my washing.

In the car they wanted to hold hands as we drove along.

They got viciously jealous if I dared look at another nun.

One even burgled a consultants office and filing cabinet to get reading my medical notes!

I love that word invented by the playwright – CHASTITUTE.

Priests and monks who have not come to terms with their sexuality and engage in secret sexual behaviour are male chastitutes.

Nuns, who have never had a baby in their womb and get a notion of a priest and stalk him are female chastitutes.

It now seems that Dom Kirby chastitute has her “baby” now living under her roof?

As a priest once said to me:

“Pat, they wouldn’t let us get rid of our semen and it went to our heads and made us mad”.

126 replies on “REVEREND MOTHER OF TEGELEN CONVENT IS TOTALLY OBSESSED WITH KIRBY.”

11.44pm— Today’s blog is solely devoted to Reverend Mother — NOT Canon Paul Nener!

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One has to be careful of trolling. The new law of defamation requires only a judge to make the decision. If a person felt that a
member
of the clergy had taken away their good name it is vital that the judge is completely neutral of the church. Remember there was a question over the judge in the Fr. Flynn case. A person has to be careful when God talks to them that they are completely 100 % sure of what he is saying to them.

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You mean that law that is still under discussion and hasn’t passed into law yet? 😂

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T&J @ 9:27.
I agree. Moreover they should ask God to put it in writing so the RCC can give it an official ‘imprimatur.”
That would make it best evidence, in fact, as good evidentially as the Holy Bible. MMM
😕😉😁

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The rating of the movie would probably have to be 18. ‘Viewer discretion advised. Contains frequent whoopsie moments’.

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Good to see that “Dan” apologies to Bill last night. Clearly Dan is infatuated with Bill and would like to get to know him better- but slowly, slowly Dannyboy!

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Well, now we know why Kirby fled there! This is proof that he seeks out fanatical followers who will adore and protect him.
Hey Bishop Deenihan, do you still feel good about your decision to support this insane community, and to destroy the one person who was trying to warn you about it?
Good luck, Tom. 👌

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Which “diocesan right” or “congregation” is the frail-looking Immaculate Mother under? Have the Legionnaires got their claws into her?

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No problem Alvin. And if anyone wants to spy on any monastery in the Benedictine Confederation the 2015 Catalogus Monasteriorum is available as a PDF at this link (sorry it’s so long, it wouldn’t let me open it except through Google):

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ldysinger.stjohnsem.edu/%40abbeys/%40confederation/Catologus_2015.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwicjMT786z2AhXAQUEAHR8_D08QFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3sK04ob0NwQ7BojSktcrdy

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OMG!! Just when I thought I’d seen it all on this blog!! Monks & Priests as A pin up for Nuns!! Bless their little cotton socks 🧦😇. Fact is often stranger than Fiction.

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Another Delusional Sheelagh – Cathbot – obsessed – at least she is professed – most church obsessed women are laity – highly manipulative and dysfunctional. Just like their Idols. Proves how dysfunctional management are in sending Kirby to Mother Immaculata in first place now that the past history of these 2 is highlighted. Another disaster in the making. Immaculata sounds vulnerable and obsessed with Kirby. A very poor and questionable destination for the errant Dom Kirby. One wonders what other MIA’s are tucked away in these convents worldwide.

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Sexually repressed women who covert their sexuality under the illusion of devotion to God or the religious life often divert it towards an obsession with an authority/high control male – a basic sado-masochistic model – that’s what’s going on with this petulant nun.
Same for:
Von Balthasaar and Speyer
Von Hugel and Underhill
Wojtola and his lady friend
Francis and Clare
De Sale and Jane Chantelle
Christianity and sex not good bedfellows too much hypocrisy and repression and unexpressed emotions and sex come out in darker more complex ways.
Kirbys Nun is a sexual hysteric who isnt obsessed with Kirby she’s obsessed because her sexuality is repressed.

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Maybe the nun was divinely sent to get DMK to catch himself on. If he was uncomfortable with the attentions of the nun, he from that experience should have reflected on the discomfort he was causing others.

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Looks like he’s not listening to God’s hint then, Seamus. Of course that is how God normally speaks to people, but perhaps he thinks God only speaks from the Tabernacle

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Thank you God for giving religious people their vocations. That keeps them away from normal people and the funny clothes mean we can see them coming

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I had a situation with an extern Carmelite stalker nun. It was not pleasant. If Kitty knew she was obsessed, why on earth did he go there? Maybe she is so obsessed she will fail to see and report any “whoopsie” moments by him.

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9:29 Spot On, Exactly – now you know why this choice of location is so relevant to the POINT on this blog today & yet another example of the careful and well executed strategies used by the RCC for decades in its total complicity in protecting its more corrupt and abusive members.

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Isn’t it in the Carmelite nuns’ constitutions that confessors have to be over 40? I guess that a younger priest might be scandalised?

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Maybe he only liked the monks as they were the only ones available – like those in Prison – needs must?

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Trouble making comment. He’s not even wearing a cassock. He’s probably CofE so not even a priest.

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It looks like an overcoat over a priest’s suit. An old Anglo-Cath CoE priest often had the ‘Dutch touch’ if someone is fussy over post V2 orders. Fasting is always good not matter who says it.

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He’s just the type that makes their way to that ridiculous ordinariate for disaffected Anglicans

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9.57: Why Pat, do you facilitate fat shaming and unnecessary vulgarity about people? Don’t you disapprove of this kind of bullying? Allowing such comments lowers your blog.

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Yes, a lot of wheat and fertiliser comes from Russia and Ukraine. Someone who fasts regularly mightn’t find it so hard. Perhaps we should grow potatoes like our ancestors. We understand the blight now, and in fact the blight and its solution was largely worked out, but there was disagreement over the theory that copper sulphate was the solution.

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All this talk of getting on, it’s getting me down, but 2 years down the line and I would like to ask people, where is Covid?

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9.59am what has Covid 19 got to do with the topic on today’s blog? Pay attention and stop trying to distract commenters from today’s topic.

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Kirby may now know what it feels like to be a victim for a change instead of the predator. I can see him reaching out in the not so long future.

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When I was a student in Rome I met and befriended an English novice sister about my age. To borrow your famous phrase Pat we were two consenting adults who pushed the bounds of a platonic relationship for about a year til she returned to England. I carried on in Rome. I don’t think it did either of us any harm and it never had any adverse affects on me in my career.

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A quick google shows that she is a nun in the UK and I’m a priest. I don’t think it has had any averse effects on my abilities or sincerity and dedication to my vocation. I can say, hand on my heart, that in my years following I’ve never been inclined to do it again or anything similar.
I know that at least one of my superiors knew about the relationship (through confession) and I was still allowed to proceed to perpetual vows the following year.

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So one of your superiors ‘knew’ about the relationship but only in a way where he couldn’t tell anyone else.
And you comment that it didn’t stop you proceeding to perpetual vows…
Of course it didn’t! Jesus!

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If you knew anything about seminaries and houses of formation in those days, you’d know that “anything you say or do can and will be used against you…” including from within the confessional. ‘Twas brutal. If a brother confessed regularly to having a roving eye they’d just say that it was clear he wasn’t ready to live a chaste life etc. Simple. I was lucky that this particular superior was quite normal (and not Irish; are these two things connected?)

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Is it a good idea to confess to superiors? Inner and external forums etc

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No Pat, its not. But the Church is slow to change as you well know.

I’m settling into a new role in formation (incidentally, in the same house in Rome where I first met the aforementioned sister many moons ago) and it is a fundamental rule that formators are not to be available to hear the confessions of those in formation. Usual exceptional circumstances not permitting of course.

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Pat at 2:02, this has arisen with Silverstream. Once again the total moral bankruptcy of the church is revealed by a single comment.
And it’s far from simple.
1. A temporary professed ‘pushes boundaries’.
2. He lets one of his superiors know in confession.
3. He thinks that the notional seal of confession will be broken and believes this to be routine.
4. Internal/external forum are totally mixed up.
5. He continues to final profession and both he and the sister are still religious.
6. He comments about this online.
Are there any boundaries of any sort here?
No.

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She was a true blesses Benedictine sister of the highest order. Must be nearly a decade since her passing.

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This saga is at root about mentally ill individuals with extreme boundary issues, and the people who enable them to gain control over others.

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Sexual dynamics dominate the Catholic Church – it’s the Big Unspoken Secret – they are like the Victorian’s (Foucault) we think they suppress it but the truth is they are obsessed with it.
Every dysfunction at parish level or in a religious house involves frustrated sexuality in one form or another and the thirst for domination. v submission, whose top dog (top), whose the bottom dog (bottom) all underpinned by the clerical caste (clergy or religious) being affirmed and indulged.
It’s all about sex stupid!!
But and here’s the RUB virtually to a man and woman clergy and religious are sexually immature, stuck in adolescent lock, obsessed with masturbation and pornography all under the cloak of enforced celibacy and the illusion of piety etc!!
‘Everything in the world is about sex, except sex because sex is about power. Oscar Wilde

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12.16: Seamus, are we meant to laugh at this comedic effort? A little silly, with all due respect…Stay with The Word of God – FOR LENT – Please.

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2:44, people take on prayer for the Lenten season. The Gospels of Matthew and Mark can bring people on a 44 day journey. It suits some people and not others. That’s perfectly fine.

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Seamus is one of those people who visit a monastery and start telling the monks how to run it.

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10.21am

Clerics learn to speak in riddles regarding a critique of their own moral/ethical behaviour.
Classic ‘pushing the boundaries of our platonic relationship’ – what does that even mean?
Mutual masturbation, no penetration, etc – consenting is fine but you and the nun still dined out on being moral paradigms, who knows, giving marriage preparation talks and screaming hypocrites all at the same time – assuaging your conscience with the old we were consenting adults, no one got hurt but perfectly happy with vows of celibacy and the privileges of the religious life – Cake and Eat spring to mind.

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Excellent point.
Pushing boundaries means doing things outside the boundaries, if you had any to start with.

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Seamus viii you seemed to have swallowed the gospels of Matthew, Mark and the blarney stone for good measure. You sound like an old maid my old Son with old being more pertinent. Windbagging doesn’t suit you dear chap.

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About the reference to Mother as a sheelagh above – I think many a nun is probably a Sr Sheela na Gig.
The way celibacy doesn’t actually happen or work is surely well documented by now and the only reason the church hasn’t dropped it is the depth of denial, self hatred and the fact it is ‘married’ (LOL) to this aspect of its brand identity.
🤢

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10.21am

Clerics learn to speak in riddles regarding a critique of their own moral/ethical behaviour.
Classic ‘pushing the boundaries of our platonic relationship’ – what does that even mean?
Mutual masturbation, no penetration, etc – consenting is fine but you and the nun still dined out on being moral paradigms, who knows, giving marriage preparation talks and screaming hypocrites all at the same time – assuaging your conscience with the old we were consenting adults, no one got hurt but perfectly happy with vows of celibacy and the privileges of the religious life – Cake and Eat spring to mind.

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Mutual masturbation and no penetration is the name of the game in a certain group of priests that meet up frequently. Are you part of that group Cake & Eat?

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I’ve always wanted to know which one of our group talks to Pat about this. We all read the blog but one clearly passes on information.

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Pat I hope you are enjoying the start of summer. 10 degrees and no rain, that’s a day for the shorts and ice cream

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4.46: Holidays for Pat – where? In the Canaries? I suggest he travel to Tegelen Benedictine monastery to seek forgiveness from Rev. Mother and Dom Kirby!! Would be more fitting for the cruelty inflicted in both people. And bring The Gospel of Christ with bim.

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@5.02pm Why would any person including Pat and in their sane mind pick a holiday in a monastery? Get real dear one. Life is too short now for such a ridiculous idea but for frivolity.

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Is there an equally thin line between gossip and mental illness? Come on, whenever you have a bunch of homosexuals, repressed or not, you get a group of men who love to gossip. If there’s any doubt just read the comment section here.
It looks like the poor reverend mother is to be collateral damage in the fallout against Kirby. I thought were hearing how he pulled the wool over people’s eyes and were treating them with respect now we have to try and belittle this religious woman. Not cool.

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Pat,

Did you see Fr. Deny of Motherwell is donning maniple and fiddlesticks for a TLM tomorrow?
He has been a cause of concern especially to his old man for decades.

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@5:16pm
Patsy, I think that’s a cause for rejoicing, the people of Motherwell will be blessed to actually be at a Catholic Mass. The cause for concern how many will realize it.

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Anonymous at 5:16 – Motherwell is a cesspit with all that mob in their lace and man-nipples! Think Gilbert must’ve scared + Pat off ye!

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Public Savant at 5:22 pm:

Reverend Mother Immaculata entered into this of her own accord when she provided safe haven for a known creep and two young novices.

Someone in Holland was clearly concerned enough about this to provide information to Bishop Pat.

Something tells me that it would be much less of a story if it was just Kirby himself and not the young novices.

And, of course, none of this Silverstream saga would be on Pat’s blog had Bishop Deenihan dealt with the issue in a just, responsible way.

The collateral damage, as you say, is unfortunate, but the responsibility lies squarely at the feet of one Tom Deenihan.

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Yes there are Catholics in the Netherlands who are horrified and angry at Dom Kirby’s presence there.

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Honestly there mightn’t be too many, given how many churches are to be closed. Anyhow the nuns will be chasing Kirby. He’ll repent of all the Silverstream whoopsie moments.

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Pat is there any truth that the SPR have surfaced again after Covid? I hear they are well and kicking here now under a Fr General from the original founders day. I believe they are basically an old boys club for lazy priests. I know you addressed them pre covid in Newcaste and despite their wining and dining you challenged them to their lazy ways. I also think you blogged about this episode. The Father General has been organising events again soon. Membership has strict rules as you know. Any updates on them Pat? They seem exclusive and gluttoness.

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Canon Denis McSweeney of Kinturk parish, Cork, founded the SPR in England.. Some thought it a joke but it continues in the north of Ireland with his appointed Father General.

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Interesting as Canon Denis was a Cad. Did you know him Pat? Totally harmless eccentric and is sort in total short supply these days. I thought his SPR had preceeded him in all fairness. God bless him. We will never see his likes again.

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@8.44pm You are the sort of trailer trash rubbish who would want to join this lazy clergy rabble. They meet in secret. They are just trash this SPR.

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I think the the SPR holds a certain appeal. They are not up their any arsehole including their own.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mfr9JxBBn0
That picture is really creepy. If he’s declared Venerable, it’s yet more proof that the system for assessing causes of saints is irredeemably broken. After some minor PVI changes, JP2 broke the integrity of the system. Removing the so called devil’s advocate was a sign of that, but overall there was a loss of rigour. It might be noted for St Josemaria Escriva care was taken to investigate issues that would detract from his cause (resurrecting an ancestor’s aristocratic title was an apparent obsession, claimed too the Opus Dei founder thought of becoming Eastern Orthodox so devastated he was by the New Order, and usually Fr Josemaria got an indult for the Vetus Ordo without asking for it). Opus Dei had the nous to ensure his cause was looked at with some rigour.
Dodgy bishops giving money that makes the receiver look dodgy and beholden to them, is a well trodden path.

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“representatives from the world of culture”: that’s the way we do things here, we’re Mediterranean!

https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/15080/spanish-law-firm-to-head-independent-abuse-investigation

By Filipe Avillez

A Spanish law firm has been tasked by the country’s bishops with an independent investigation into sexual abuse by clergy.

The investigation will be conducted by a team of 18 people, including former high-ranking judges, but also specialists in psychology and representatives from the world of culture.

Heading the commission will be Javier Cremades, a lawyer who is also a member of Opus Dei.

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I think this topic could run for a few more days, Bp Pat, I love all the comments and speculation on Miss Kitty et al.

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Seamus at 5:35,
They will never make any form of reparation to Dom Ben, because they think that in destroying Dom Ben they are doing God service (Jn 16:2-4).

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Have just come from a 2 hour vigil of Eucharistic Adoration and prayer for the Ukranian people. A great crowd took part. The European and world community ought to act more cohesively to end this madnes of Putin. Parishes hopefully will rally behind all efforts to help arriving Ukranians. While many of us are paying attention to the potential for world war and worry about the future because of this conflict and are shocked at the slaughter of innocent people and the fleeing for the safety, we realise the futility of war and hatred and egomaniacal and dysfunctional madness. The world is a very fragile place. Doesn’t scripture ask, ” Where do these battles come from…they come from within…We want something and can’t get it, so we use violence..and force..” Violence and force to assert our dislike of others is evidenced by our desire to strip others of their dignity, to dehumanize them, to humiliate, to ridicule…to mock, to reduce others to a feeling of utter uselessness and fun. Many commenters on this blog should hang their heads in shame. May God in some way heal your sinful hearts.

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Pat, could you tell me why the Catholic Church see the Low Countries as a good ‘holiday’ for some priests?

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