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OAKLEY AND NORTHAMPTON IN MAJOR ROW WITH NIGERIAN RELIGIOUS ORDER

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DIOCESAN STATEMENT

STATEMENT REGARDING THE MISSIONARY SOCIETY OF ST PAUL

On Thursday 17th February the Vicar General, Rev Canon Michael Harrison released the following statement to clergy of the diocese of Northampton. 

At the end of February four priests of the Missionary Society of St Paul, ministering in parishes across our diocese will be leaving.

The general and regional superiors for the congregation have taken the decision to remove the priests from our diocese.

In March 2021, Bishop David received a letter request from the general superior in Nigeria that one of the MSP priests, serving in Northampton diocese should be removed from a parish and return to Africa. The priest in question did not wish to return and, given no reason for concern to remove the priest, out of compassion for the priest, the diocese of Northampton stated that this was an internal congregational matter for the MSP leadership. Following several further requests for the priest’s removal, the congregation stated in November 2021, that they would remove all MSP priests from the diocese of Northampton in January unless the diocese deliver the priest to them. Once again, the Diocese stated that this was a congregational matter and Bishop David would be happy for all MSP priests to remain serving in the diocese of Northampton and neither he nor the diocese would intervene in an internal congregational concern.

Eventually, it became obvious the intent of the congregation would be to remove all priests from ministry in the diocese of Northampton and Bishop David requested a timeframe, which, in mid-February was agreed to be the last weekend of February.

The missionary society of St Paul (MSP) have been active in ministry in our diocese since 2005. During these years, many MSP priests have ministered in parishes across our diocese. Currently in ministry in our diocese are Fr’s Francis Eyo (St Ethelberts, Slough), Joseph Udoh (Our Lady of Peace, Burnham), Livinus Onyebuchi (Our Lady of Lourdes, Aylesbury), Eustace Durugbo (St Margaret of Scotland, Luton) and Pius Duke (St Joseph’s, Bedford).

Bishop David offers his sincerest gratitude to the priests for their support in celebrating the Sacraments for the people of God in the parishes entrusted to them and assured them of his prayers in their continued ministry.

PAT SAYS

Word from Nottingham clergy is that the new bishop, David Oakley, is at war with the superiors of the Missionaries of St Paul in Nigeria.

The St Paul’s wanted one of their missionaries back from Oakley.

The priest refused to go back, and Oakley seems to have supported the priest.

Now, the St Paul’s are removing ALL their priests from Oakley’s diocese.

And the danger now is that the St Paul ‘s will withdraw all their priests from all English dioceses.

This will not endear Oakley to his fellow bishops.

ARTHUR ROCHE

Soon to be cardinal Archbishop Arthur Roche is no fan of Oakley’s. It appears that Roche did not regard Oakley as bishop material?

Is he now being proven right?

If you want the lowdown on Oakley ask Father Marsden

126 replies on “OAKLEY AND NORTHAMPTON IN MAJOR ROW WITH NIGERIAN RELIGIOUS ORDER”

All seems very strange. If the MSP wanted one of their priests to return home, why did the priest refuse to go? Was this priest enjoying Church life and ministerial priesthood in a way he could not do back in Africa? Personally I believe it’s a matter for the MSP only.

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8:17am. The success rate on political asylum applications in the UK from Nigerian applicants is still fairly high at around 27 percent.

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8:17am Due to shortage of vocations, priests do defy their Bishops more these days and all the better chances of success for them if they have their connections in the wider community to assist them in staying put.

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This problem has been noted in France. A priest from Francophone Africa moves to a nice parish in France, which has a beyond-desperate shortage of priests. After a year or two of the 21st century French standard of living, he is strangely reluctant to return to ministry in his poverty and corruption striken homeland.

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10:51am Nothing strange about it, it’s an inevitable consequence – after all no one in Ireland complains when certain priests are never moved more than a stones throw from their silver spoon birth cradle and they and their “social influencer” friends & families spit the dummy big time from the pram if the Bishop dares to try moving them from their chosen nest whilst other good priests are given no say in where they are sent because they have no social or financial clout behind them.

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I don’t think he is. As the missionaries are religious it’s up to their order to sort staffing of their apostolates and also disciplinary matters if a priest won’t move.
Of course they would discuss changes with the bishop but as a courtesy UNLESS there is a concern about the priest.
It feels like something isn’t being said about the priest?

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It shows a lack of judgement and prudence on the part of the diocese. The cleric in question could have sought exclaustration from MSP. The society has close links with Kiltegans and could have availed of their counsel.

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The most interesting thing in that article is that there’s a parish in Luton under the patronage of St. Margaret if Scotland!

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Remember, these MSPs are Nigerian. In many dioceses and religious orders in Nigeria there are internecine conflicts based on ethnicity and tribe. They do not get along for the most part. What happens eventually, especially in the religious orders, is that they split provinces in to ethnic and tribal divisions, and go their own way. Don’t underestimate the loyalty to the tribe amongst them. So, this may well be one of those internal squabbles amongst the MSP. To be honest, by and large, Northampton will be better off without the MSPs. While some individuals can be good, as a group they are trouble, and bring more problems with them than they solve in terms of manpower and staffing parishes. Some of the issues were aired yesterday in respect of the egregiously vile and wicked attitudes exhibited by that nitwit in Portsmouth. As a general point, I find clerical reverse colonialism which goes on with the importation of foreign priests somewhat distasteful. It deprives countries of manpower that they have nurtured and paid for; it often brings associated problems with it, such as yesterdays’ example; some groups are notoriously infamous for selling the title deeds from under the nose of the bishop if they get a chance; and most importantly, it temporarily absolves bishops in this country from facing the reality of the vocations situation, and kicking the can down the road, rather than. having the balls to talk about innovative and sensible ways of ensuring that the sacraments and ministry of the Church is available to the faithful. And, forget the racist accusation. I’m just saying it as it is. Fact.

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I worked in one West African country during the 1990s. I saw a certain amount of this first hand, where I was it was getting ready to turn violent when the civil authorities stepped in and took control of the situation. They ordered the local bishop to stand down and then went to the tribe he was in conflict with and some of them disappeared. They also found the tribe was stockpiling weapons in the local church hall. One of the missionaries there, an Italian who had been there for over 40 years, explained to me that at that time every African country had at least one white bishop because without any tribal loyalties he was often the only reliable bishop. That of course has now changed and most of those countries just don’t have reliable white missionaries to choose from.

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8.37, are you a priest? Your post certainly suggests it.
Never worry yourself about sacramental ritual. Ritual isn’t the issue here; grace is. And grace can be obtained without sacramental ritual.
The Faithful are deprived of nothing without the presence of priests; in fact, I believe they would thrive spiritually and psycologically without them. Christ does not need middlemen to dispense grace, as though he were some wholesaler.
Any concerns about the Faithful here are yours alone.
People do not need clergy.

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Vin of Westminster is notoriously cautious when dealing with foreign clergy, especially from Africa and more particularly from Nigeria. He doesn’t let them by and large take over as parish priest, and keeps a very close eye on the materials and financial benefits of the parishes in which these clergy are found. He has been burned on a number of occasions and he’s not going to let it happen again. Other bishops seem to be pretty loose and free with bringing in foreign clergy. Mott in A&B has a huge amount of foreign clergy. He will learn his lesson, as has Vin, eventually. Watch that space.

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Amy Martin has hired them in Armagh and one near Dundalk is a nightmare. Amy visited Nigeria to hand pick the MSP.

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8:49am Some of the Irish home grown spud priests are a nightmare as well. At least the Imported priests won’t be sharing & exacting some long standing grudge against your family since 1852!! Diversity in clerical backgrounds should be a positive but the selection skills of Bishops like Amy Martin and others is sadly reflected in some of the imports.

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The Irish have long, unforgiving memories.

An anniversary for everything, these guys. Lest we forget. 🙄

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11:07am Ah! But don’t forget how they preach “forgive and forget” only when it suits their own agenda.
Many of them don’t subscribe to the relationship between Justice and the Peace that it brings.

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11.43, never truer words spoken. Aye.

‘Forgive and forget.’ Strange words, those. And stranger still the silly expectation by priests that we heed them. Why should we? God doesn’t. Don’t these collared hypocrites preach about ‘Judgement’? What’s that all about, if not God’s refusal to forgive and forget?

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I see the Southwark school debacle is getting deeper and deeper. OFSTED has initiated a snap visitation. Not surprised. Everybody else is weighing in, not in Southwark’s favour. Including The Tablet. I suspect Bully Boy Wilson has bitten off a bit more than his chubby chops can manage. The most interesting point in The Tablet is that people, including the government, will be wondering why they should be paying out millions and millions of £s to Catholic education when the Church is putting forward a view of people and sexuality that is completely counter to how the majority think and feel and in contradiction of the law of the country. Do we really want to end up being lumped in with the Muslims and other nut jobs ? Because that’s the way it’s going. And all because we have a clerical leadership that struggles to understand not only sexuality in a realistic way but also its own personal struggles with sexuality, including denial, avoidance, frustration, hypocrisy and lying. https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/15147/dispute-deepens-in-southwark-school-that-banned-gay-author

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I’m not surprised at this debacle at St. John Fisher School when you see that rag The Tablet calling it ‘John Fisher’ School as well as supporting visits of authors who are not compatible with Catholic teaching. The insult to the great Martyr of the so called ‘reformation’ of the despot Henry VIII will not be forgotten by those parents who choose to send their children to a Catholic school and expect them to receive a Catholic education. St John Fisher pray for us.

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RTE Radio 1 - Dara O Briain speaks to Marty Morrissey about difficulty experienced accessing information on his Adoptionsays:

In his interview with Marty Morrissey on RTsr Radio 1, Dara O’Briain described the system on obtaining information on his adoption as having been made “unnecessarily difficult” by the religious institutions. Record keeping demonstrated zero regard for basic human rights of the individuals concerned. When he did finally obtain the contact information he required to meet his mother, on meeting she informed him of the “expediency” and “shame” that was put on her when she became pregnant in the early 70’s. O’Briain was also critical of the sparse information provided by institution in his file and zero information on his father. He has an excellent relationship with his adoptive parents who supported him in his quest to find his birth parents. His personal experience of this system is highlighting how the institutional control of information makes discovery extremely difficult for families seeking to reunite with loved ones wrenched away from them by the religious institutions for financial gain and social control purposes.

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Anon at 10.02

Not surprised re nuns as its bit similar to my experience with daughters of the cross of liege (founded by arch mc Quaid) .

Watch the movie ‘Philomena’ as you would see some nuns in the movie refusing to answer questions related to adopted. It’s their behaviour that you would see there.

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10:42am Thank you for the recommendation. Isn’t it very sad that anyone would be arrogant enough to play God with the life of another when taking advantage of individuals at the most vulnerable points in their lives.

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1.30
A revolting comment from Bela Govan. Bladder and bowel incontinence are nothing compared with verbal incontinence.

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@ 4;06pm

When it come to you it is. It’s my Christian duty to warn people to stand well down wind of you. A whiff of Ardeer Nettie is more than enough to give any poor Christian the vapours.🤣🤣🤣

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Whatever happened to ‘holy obedience’? 🤣

Don’t these guys take vows of obedience at ordination?

Oh, wait! Priesthood isn’t about obedience, is it? That’s a dated notion.

Self-service, more like. 👿

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Well it’s not about being pushed about dysfunctional and untrustworthy “bishops” – so yes – more complex than before

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This overreliance on overseas priests has to end. All it does is prop up a failing model of church. The notion that they can come en masse and evangelise a nation is as ridiculous as when we did it to them. I suppose you might argue that the European missionaries took education and medicine with them – but at what cost?

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At what cost, 11.18? Looks like their legacy has returned to haunt them.
What you reap… ‘N’ all that.

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Where’s the priest?

We need a priest!

WE MUST HAVE A PRIEST!

Otherwise there’s no church. 🙄

Isn’t this what some Catholic bshop said recently about the shortage of priests?

What is it about Catholics and their apoplexy over having no priest? It’s amusing to the rest of us, that’s for sure.

Here’s a tip: it’s Christ you should turn to, not priests. Haven’t you had enough of these men, and what their concerns really are?

Grow up,for heaven’s sake.

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It’s funny how priests manage to find their voices to speak out against injustices
of bishops and the institutional church when the injustice is perpetrated against priests.
But its a different matter when it comes to child rape, seminarian abuse, rape of women religious,etc. Elective mutism was adopted by the fraternity refusing to speak out on such appalling injustices.

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Ack! Our old friend, Fr Dr Marsden. 😀
Is he still as interested in homosexuals as he once was? (Or maybe I should have said ‘homosexuality’ ? 🤔) Lord knows. (Or does he?) Lord knows if the Lord knows.
Dear Daktur Marsden looks as though he is taking part in a Morecombe and Wise Christmas Special in that pic.
Is he? 🤔

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I think masturbatory fantasies were his preferred area of interest. Others, like seminarians, not his. Strange man.

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“I want this vulgar, drink-sodden, bullsh!t that is commonly called St. Patrick’s Day to stop so that the celebration of a major Catholic figure in the Irish Catholic experience is not ruined.”


Abolish St Patrick’s Day! | THE BRENDAN OPTION 068

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Ireland is gaining a Bank Holiday for St. Brigid’s Day from next year! Secular society want a Bank Holiday for a female saint to compliment the existing Bank Holiday for St. Patrick!

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Doesn’t Brendan realise that it hasn’t been St. Patrick’s Day for a long time . It’s Paddy’s Day

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4:21, don’t you realise that most of the publicity and references are for “St Patrick’s Day”! The secular society might be wayward God love them but they haven’t forgotten St Patrick.
I thought the RCC embraced the parades as way of keeping people out of the pub on their day off from their Lenten abstinence.
Some people forget that our churches are open between Christmas and Easter. People aren’t going to Church on St Patrick’s Day morning and yet want to celebrate a day for the man who brought Christianity to our island!! Fr Brendan is right to speak out about this madness.
The faithful and secular society are delighted to have a double bank holiday weekend. Ireland was 2 down on the European average for Bank Holidays. Ireland now will only be one day behind. Secular Ireland probably should have their own national day. Maybe a Harvest festival will suit them. People need to regain the knowledge and habit of growing their own food.
Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit.
Pax.

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Fr. Brendan appears miffed because St. Patricks Day seems to have been hijacked by the godless. He is seeking peace from secular forces. He should try living life as a survivor of church abuse, having to listen to and deal with bullshit from bishops to know what life is like on an ongoing basis without peace.

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Seamus @ 5.09pm “Some people forget that our churches are open between Christmas and Easter. People aren’t going to Church on St Patrick’s Day morning and yet want to celebrate a day for the man who brought Christianity to our island!”
Firstly Our Churches are now open daily for Mass and all other religious services and the people are beginning to return to them;
Seccondly; I was at mass in our local church yesterday and it was full to capacity. Our parish priest blessed the shamrock and we sang Hail Glorious St. Patrick for the day that was in it. He was assisted by three eucharistic ministers in the distribution of holy communion so Seamus religion is not lost.

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Brendan always traded on his sex appeal. It was always large and unkownst to his appealing self.

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Graham Norton has a marvellous gear stick for a chair like that Brendan. The last step….I made the break…..I fell asleep ……consistently. Wojtyla had a Catholic funeral!!!! Lol Lol

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Clergy are always infighting, hating and despising each other – they can’t stand each other – wherever you have old celibates you have a recipe for bitch fest and gossip.
They all utterly loathe each other and gossip incessantly about how much hatred they have.
Birmingham especially bad – a bitchy queens paradise.
Clerical bitchiness and gossip a completely different level of hate.
It depends, if you excuse the phrase, whose inner ring your in.
VGs have an especially tight inner ring (oh Mrs)
Same with bishops – they bitch to each other and small group of confidants.
Deanerys have their own rules of gossip etc
Secular clergy despise religious – you wouldn’t believe it but they do – they are insular and threaten easily.
It’s a shit show as Oakley debacle shows.

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The number of times I’ve heard a parish priest or his assistant say, ‘I can’t stand so and so’ and then on the Sunday bang on about loving or neighbour etc.
Hilarious really – they lust after hypocrisy and gossip – the funny thing is the clergy I know could never be discrete and for the sacredness of the confessional- does anyone seriously think these inveterate gossips and hypocrite ms could keep a secret or be discrete.
By the way money on the missionary priest Oakley is protecting is gay and v likely active – as clergy like to say, he has form in this area.
Forget the diocesan PR Shiite – what’s the real story – glory!!

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Paula Bradshaw is pretending it’s here mothers fault she is standing down as a MLA. She has lost faith in the DUP over their handling of the Christopher Stalford death and the aftermath.

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3.22: Pat has caused much unnecessary distress already. His early intrusiveness into this family’s grief was despicable and shameful. Pat should learn to mind his own business where death and grief are concerned. It’s not the first time he has inflicted deep hurt and pain on bereaved families whose tragedies are used and abused on this blog in a horrendously selfish and sinful way.

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If a y of us fear foul play in any death, it is our duty to inform the Coroner. That has been done.

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If one has the time and interest: To Understand Putin, You First Need to Get Inside Aleksandr Dugin’s Head. An article by Amit Varshizky published in HAARETZ March 17th 2022.

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6.00pm
Not to add to your hurt or distress: what have you to hide ? Whilst this Blog may sometimes be “insensitive” It has never ever ever been untruthful. Never. Not once. To nail myself to y=the mast; not even with Martin Mc Alinden, and he wouldn’t even mind my stating it: Status is a pathology. Further explication all round would be embarrassing.

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6.00pm

This is a symptom of the sickness of our society/societies. We are not able for the truth of an evidential situation. It conflates with our image of ourselves and the way we really really are….

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Our Father is forty seven
Hallowed be his aim
Thy kingdom cum
He will do son
On girth and In Kevin
Give us each gay
Our daily bred
And forgive us our gay asses
As we forgive those who gay ass us
And lead us into castration
But deliver us from evil
Gaymen

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I believe the “Gay Our Father” is a factor in the Southwark banned author controversy. Context is important of course but I lean towards the censorship, for school children, in this case.

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Pats daily poet must have been on day release today or the court order to ban his internet use has been lifted.

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Any news on the Northampton Priests who reside at her majesty’s pleasure in a Prison cell ? What about Father Francis McDermott ? Is he still considered to be a Priest by the Diocese of Northampton ?

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Cause he’s not supposed to be happy. Lol Lol Lol ( direct quote from Sean Deceitful Brady…facilitator of horrendous Abuse.)

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You heard it here first. On 23 April 2022, Maynooth will announce the sale of most of its campus to Maynooth University and for private housing, and the departure of the seminary from its historic home.
This major reversal in fortunes is being dressed up as “A Vision for Renewal and Transformation”, though by disposing of the site, the literally faithless bishops clearly believe that they will never again have the seminary numbers of old.
The sight of a few sems rattling around St Mary’s Oratory is too depressing apparently, and even the GAA and soccer pitches on the Graf are being turned to meadows, with modern sems having no use for them.

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I spent a coffee break with Malachy Conlon shortly before he was ordained….he commented at the table that if he spent his priesthood taking the building brick down by brick ( the Edifice of Maynooth) , his priesthood would be a success . Father Malachy Conlon, the Parish Priest of Cooley now represents the multiplicity of Frauds in The Irish Priesthood. No doubt about it.

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Eamonn Martin has commented publicly that he would take Ukrainian refugees. In the company of His Grace and his offsider Father Rory Coyle, I suggested that the Irish College Rome should be sold. His Grace, Eamonn Martin said it could not be done at that time : because Pope Francis would cease it for emigrants; The lying deceitful political prelate. Good luck with the downtrodden seeking solace in Ara Coeli: it would be entirely for the Landlords glory!!!! Bill Mulvihill

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His Grace is very limited. Thats not original, Joe Duffy used those very words for Sean Brady!!

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7:13pm RCC has vast numbers of empty houses plus all the under utilised church buildings. Seems odd that they don’t do anything with them. They must have a Council Tax exemption.

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No Child of the Ukranian Nation should find themselves on RCC property. If they do, Its part of the cynicism and complicity of the Republican Irish State. Bill Mulvihill

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Stuff the dietary laws of the Romanists! Only fools take them seriously.

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Once the 6 Nations gets underway, the beginning of February passes by to St. Patrick’s Day in no time at all. We must get the better of our Scottish brethren tomorrow and then rely on a favour from England!

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Eating What You Want 9:09, the history and evolution of fasting is there for everyone to read up on for themselves. If you do not, I merely kick the dust off my feet.

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8.40Consult German Bank Accounts for the Benefits accrued by Roman Catholic Republican Organisations. Money at work here again!!!!!!!! The Republic of Ireland Have a deep-seated culture of prosperity.

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8.41 Dear Pat, I think you sometimes forget….but you are not Roman Catholic !!!!!!!!! My comment does not have any application to you or yours !!!!

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I never forget that and rejoice in the clarification. They are worried about you Bill. You have the info on them.

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Malachy Conlon. Liamy Mc Nally. Gene Sheehan. What a pack of fucking frauds. And they came off smelling of roses. Their nasal acumen was as sensitive as their anal receptors. They went down in history for what they were unaware of…… FRAUDS. With mc Ginitty that His Grace so prudently looked after!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pat, they have something that you and I share that they do not have; a grief that we have suffered for; the truth of it all. Pat Buckley is a good man: He looked on him and loved him.

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China has killed more people in the last two years than Putin has ever murdered , USA and European silence. Why ? Michael Martin for Bidens purposes is the crassest individual we Irish has ever presented as our elected.

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Pat. the only reason I have never visited Larne: you disclosed that I gave up my bed for you: that is a detail thats no ones business but yours and mine: but you transgressed it in the clerical forum of this Blog. I don’t think there is a human being thinks more of you than myself; my admiration of what you have lived through is virtue by lemniscate . I hold you in the highest regard. They have tried to bing you down. You have thrived with life and living. Jesus not even did that……..With deep affection and blessing, Bill Mulvihill

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9.32 The ” conquest” you speak of was not in Australia. It was in Rome. It had incredible authenticity. The stuff your kind can only dream of….it was very real. I have no fear of it. Please blog as you see fit……but mention all the Bottle Shops of Dublin of your own delight !!!

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You of the Cuban Boyfriend who needed definition on your perverse celibacy ? Don’t mess with Integrity!

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9.32.. That would be for William to destroy himself…escapades from Oz..are peculiar and bonkers… hmmmm…hmmmm..Come on Mulvie.

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9.32
Does you stipend and rental income still enable you to pay for those services ? Cabra gets a good price these days.

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Pat, the priest that Eamonn Martin would like to offer on the Altar of Sacrifice is, in my estimation and prudent judged opinion, not guilty of what has been heaped against him. W. B. Yeats; Appearances mock Reality ( I do not have any inflated of my own judgement, but I have so far not been mistaken.). Eamonn Martin is a fool.,,, a well intentioned one….but a Fool.

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I think Bishop Buckley has an estimation of my truthfulness. If it ever came to the compromising of good individuals , I shall provide extensive lists from multiple Dioceses. I have no wish to do so, but it is a threat. Clear ? The gall of the xPP of Coalisland to appear in the Irish Times recently……for the attention of E. Sweeney and John Magee!!!!!

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10.27 pity your life is so pitiful within your circle,… you mention destruction…. I find it laughable. Tis you have destroyed your very soul! Your consolation; you have many with you !!!!!

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Trump was a world peace maker and the herd turned on him. No money in him for them. He had the measure of Rome and China.

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The MSP s have plenty of scandals…….their superior general quite deliberately drove in the wrong direction on a motorway in Northern Ireland. Fr Victor lied. The police retraced his movements. He had clearly committed a crime. Sweeney in conjunction with the PSNI got him off. Poor old plebs without connections. Father Victor, their superior general is a Thug. Sweeney is his accomplice , compliments of his master; BRADY.

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