Since the beginning of Lent the cardinals who will elect the future pope have been passing this memorandum around. Its author, who goes by the name of Demos, “people” in Greek, is unknown, but shows himself a thorough master of the subject. It cannot be ruled out that he himself is a cardinal.
PAT SAYS
Francis’ papacy has been very divisive.
He has certainly allowed traditional beliefs on many issues to be challenged and reexamined.
A lot of RCs around the world love to hate Francis , especially the Conservative and TLM ones.
They will want a new pope to return the RCC to “the old ways”.
I do not think that will happen.
The genie is out of the bottle.
The RCC has been exposed as an internationally corrupt entity in which massive sexual abuse has occurred.
It will take a lot more than a smiley new pope to put things right.
The world now knows the emperor has no clothes.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
82 replies on “CARDINALS PASSING AROUND A DOSSIER FOR NEXT POPE’S ELECTION.”
Dress anything in Red and “ they “ will worship.
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Bizarre.
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8.15
GUBU ?
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Would be interested in your views, Pat, and any others looking on on the current pledge to consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart of Mary.
It appears to me we have three things going on here: 1. the renewed promise by a Pope on the ropes for lack of traditional teaching, 2. a prior “consecration” of the world: of which Russia is part and, 3. a Marian apparition of such gravity that it might be the most significant intervention of our Lord since the resurrection itself.
If done correctly, invoking all Bishops at once and naming Russia unequivocally, might Francis unify the Church?
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Marian apparitions belong to a parallel magisterium.
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@11:15pm
Not in a million, Fanny can’t unify The Curia never mind The Church.
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1.23
Bela Govan Rob, sedevacantist delusional reactions like yours are short on analysis and long on emotive rhetoric.
– And if you are going to parrot the words of this comment as the basis of a knee-jerk reaction, ensure you make it appear understand what you copy and paste.
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Demos is certainly actually a cleric and actually sounds like one of the tat queens who bitch here.
There are also a couple of colossal factual errors in this diatribe, the most serious of which is to describe JP2’s legacy as christocentric. Surely only paedocentric could be meant.
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11.18
The style resembles that of Viganò. Francis has rattled this crowd who will stop at nothing, including dirty tricks to oppose him.
Pseudo-historical and pseudo-theological. Irenaeus is cited as an appeal to church history. Irenaeus constructed the list of the earliest popes from apostolic times to his own day, as if Rome had had a single monarchical system during that period. Pope Victor, 188-198 is considered by many authorities, the first bishop of Rome in the commonly accepted meaning of that word.
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I love it when that crowd compare themselves to Athanasius, in complete ignorance that Athanasius was vehemently defending the recent Ecumenical Council.
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And I was born on his feast day.
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Pat at 9:18 Legend.
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Pat do you think the next Pope will be under 50?
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I very much doubt it. Very few would want a pope in situ for 40 years.
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@9:11am
Yes he was, but that Council did not compare withe hellish Vat.II
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Vatican II is the church’s magisterium, as the Holy Father Francis frequently reminds us.
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1:06 I think you’ll find St Athanasius would tell you you can’t be Catholic and pick and choose what ecumenical councils you fancy.
The so-called trads are the least we’ll instructed in the Faith.
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The universal and persistent lack of respect for human rights plus all of the ongoing coverup and avoidance mechanisms utilised to redress abuse victims and survivors has driven away the former faithful and that’s before you even begin to look at all the ducking and diving and the boiler house and tindr and Grindr clerical gangs etc. Its one big corrupt farce at this stage.
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@ 3:24pm
At least they know the faith, the so-called Mods haven’t a clue.
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Well if passing round a dossier stops them passing round an altar boy or seminarian…
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9:44am True.
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@9.44am You are just annoyed they wouldn’t be passing you around because you are as ugly as sin.
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1:08pm Whew!! Safe as Houses then! 🤣🤣🤣
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LOL they’ve passed me round in my time! I also dealt with their dealers for them. Now I’m no longer a twink I’m comfortably living off the hush money they gave me which of course was given by the credulous, sorry, I meant to say faithful.
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Looks like the boyos in red are trying to get the water out of the sinking ship with teaspoons. It’s too late lads. The damage to your ship was caused by yourselves
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Pell is on the warpath. He wants Hollerich and Baetzing reprimanded over their LGBT utterances.
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@ 3:24pm
And he’s quite right too.
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3.24
He’s over 80. He doesn’t count.
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3.24 Seamusviii, Pell is a good man. I know like myself you enjoy the rugby…..great so far……purely for my own amusement and I hope yours; Do you think Dick Spring has ever met Blair Kinghorn? ( Bizarre, grotesque…..whatever the detractors like!!!)
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Cardinal Pell, every Friday evening for most of his tenure in Melbourne…not just as Archbishop used to visit the home of two very well adjusted gentlemen who loved each other. I think, though open to correction, that they were both teachers. Pell has a public personage as all career clerics do….and then his real self. As I keep saying; he is a very good man. Anthropologically, his kind ( and most bishops) are complex and complicated. But, a very good man.
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William 5:22, Triple Crown champions at least! Left it late for the bonus point but got there in the end. Need a favour now from the old enemy of all teams for the Championship!
The Spring tide of ’92. 30 years ago now. Labour shot themselves in the foot by going into Government with Fianna Fáil, after people had voted Labour to get Fianna Fáil out! Bizarrely Fianna Fáil got voted back into power in ’97 despite all that.
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I think this is the reason clerical commenters here so often tell the church’s critics they would be more useful in a soup kitchen (apart from suppressing criticism, of course):
https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-usa/2022/03/catholic-soup-kitchen-operator-suspended-over-accusations-of-sexual-coercion
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Please pray for +Bishop John Kennan on this the 8th anniversary of his episcopal ordination. A wonderful Bishop and daily reader of this blog. Our Lady of Paisley pray for him.
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I’m wondering if he is pissed off that he never got the Glasgow job? His letters to +Pat were very odd. Still, happy anniversary BJ.
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You mean “Mr Keenan”
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Yeah +Pat. Mr Keenan is all he should be known as after the way he treated you. He wasn’t expecting your reply and shit himself I bet lol!
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The Scottish clergy call him Mr Keenan now. He is raging he didn’t get Glasgey 😤
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Is wee Evan still living with him?
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The Glasgay lads are still partying that bishop Pat + helped save us from the unctuous Keenan – although his cohorts are on tramadol!
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Lottie, I don’t know whether +JK os pissed or not at not getting Glasgow but I’d stake my pension that the priests of Paisley are certainly passed he didn’t get it.
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@ !:52pm
Guess who posted this sycophantic crap?
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+ bishop pat – will you be coming back to Scotland ever ? We miss the craic!
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Of course I will.
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Rcc in Rome have vast wealth worth in billions. It will take v v long time for that vast wealth to disappear.
Can anyone confirm this, all religious organisation or diocese/s contribute a percentage of their income/moniesfrom laity (Non taxable based o charity status) to Rome aka rcc. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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@ 2:15pm
Patsy you’re such a naughty bold boy, I love it. Wonder how long The oul Gossip will come on screaming her outrage?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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2:18pm if they had any self respect they’d settle their debts with those whom they’ve wronged and move on.
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I’m surprised the worn out fantasy of ‘The Holy Spirit will save the One True Church’ hasn’t been peddled by someone on the blog yet. It seems to be the historical cliche used by people too institutionalised to realize that the Roman Church is well beyond its sell by date and has no future.
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Indefectible my arse.
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@ 2:42pm
You’ll bun long before Rome, that is your future.
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Hilarious! Best failed attempt at an angry put down ever. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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The dossier is a good summary of the disasters of Francis, apart from the deliberate and cynical predator protection (Inzoli, Barros, Zanchetta et al ad finitum), perhaps as that issue might hit too closely to home for many Cardinals. And anyone who think’s the motu proprio loving, serial sacker wants to give more authority to the laity and local bishops, I’ve a bridge to sell them.
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@ 4:21pm
You sound hysterical Nettie have you forgot to take your medicine?😏
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Jesus, could you imagine what it’s like with clergy in Scotland when they constantly use this blog to bitch at one another. Get a life you bunch of parasites.
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What is it with the weirdos here and these made up girl’s names for friend and foe? I suppose it’s a seminary thing, what happens in Maynooth, stays in Maynooth. One notable characteristic of these people is accusing others of their own vices and flaws (mental illness is no ground for discrimination but it is a flaw and posting gibberish online is no help for it).
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9.10
Maynooth can’t be blamed for 4.45. That’s Govan Rob aka Bela Lugosi, a Sedevacantist dunce.
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In order to become Pope how many clergy must one suck off or put out to? How many scandals need to be brushed under Afghan rugs?
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To be a priest – 5 priests and 5 seminarians.
To be a bishop – 5 bishops, 5 priests and 5 seminarians.
To be an archbishop – 5 archbishops, 5 bishops, five priests and 5 seminarians.
To be a cardinal – 10 cardinals, 10 archbishops 10 bishops, 10 priests and 10 seminarians.
To be a pope – 1 pope, 20 cardinals, 20 archbishops, 20 bishops, 20 priests and 20 seminarians.
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Were they the rules set out by Pope Ratzinger in his encyclical – Serere multa semina ?
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4.01 – I must have missed that class in seminary – how did I manage to get through without a gobble?
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1:14pm & 4:01pm – I’m surprised they have time to make it to places like the Boiler House between all that to get the promotions and then the Sex for Soup scandal and the Sex for Rent fiasco!
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3.37: Truly, a satanic comment by someone possessed by evil. May this evil leave your body. Utter depravity. Darkness and evil – of satan.
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Anonymous at 6.58 – you a link in one of the daisy chains? Anxious +Pat has you in sight? There is a forum here for all …..
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Archbishop Arthur Roche will be a Cardinal by the time of the next election. He is very popular amongst cardinals. They respect his high intellect and generous personality. Cardinal Roche is extremely well placed to be our next pope.
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@4:46pm
The cockroach is not as popular as you say, he’s disliked by many in The Sacred College
he’s only got on because he’s one of Fanny’s lapdogs. There’s no way he’ll be the next Pope Deo Gratias. Go and lie down in a darkened room Nettie it will soothe your disappointment. Must go and get that insect repellent and send it to my friends in Rome where it is badly needed..
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Interesting admission that promotion in the church is driven by popularity and not either the Holy Spirit or any perception of who might be the best man for the job.
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@5.32pm Who in the Sacred College shared that with you? I think you are talking through your hole and you know that you are.
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5.32
At a glance, I counted at least five mistakes from Bela Rob Govan in a few sentences. Go back to school.
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4.46
So I believe. Pope Hadrian VII.
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@ 6:00pm
It was because of the St. Gallen Mafia we got landed with the present incumbent. It certainly
wasn’t the Holy Ghost nor was he by any perception the best man for the job as we now know. Ask anybody in Argentina his homeland where he has never returned. Funny that,don’t you think?😏
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Jesus never intended popes, so their presence must be open to another influence. 👿
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The Holy Ghost or Spirit choosing the Pope is likely something made up by CBS news or another news agency. There have been a few Popes who were rather morally challenged, even if St Peter Damian and Liutprand of Cremona are discounted as sources for the apparent worst. The Holy Spirit protects against the Pope solemnly proclaiming heresy as truth, following from our Lord’s words in the Gospel of Matthew. Given how Zanchetta got prison, the coverup efforts for Grassi in several thick volumes might conceivably result in Zanchetta getting a cell mate, if Francis had ever retired and somehow returned to Argentina.
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Cardinal Louis Antonio Tagle is our next Pope.
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@ 7:01pm
Please God not.🙄
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Lovely sunny weather in Liverpool, today. Very much looking forward to what’s hiding around the corner, the Summer will soon be here.
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Cardinal Michael Czerny SJ will be only the second Jesuit to hold the office. AMDG.
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Summer soon?
Will there be one after the nuclear winter?
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Pope rules baptised lay Catholics, including women, can lead Vatican departments
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Aye, right. 🙄
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That’s in part a revival of an old practice where eminent or qualification lay men were raised to the Cardinalate while having no more than minor orders. The great Cardinal Ruffo, who drove the French out of the mainland part of the kingdom of Naples, was a late example, and had earlier held various posts in the Papal states, and was seen as a reformer. Cardinal Pole (who had a better claim to the throne than his liege lord Henry VIII) was an earlier example, only being ordained when he became archbishop of Canterbury.
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Fr. David Vard from the Maynooth summer of love is on Tommy Tiernan RTE
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Hey, you know, I’m not really interested in what is happening in Rome. I’m interested in what is happening in my own bit of the world, in my city and diocese. And, frankly, it is moribund. I happen to be a cathedral parish parishioner, and I find that the cathedral is closed more than it is open, conveniently excused by on-going covid concerns, but in reality because it does rather suit the clergy / dean and the six full time lay employees of a provincial cathedral. They have learned that covid measures suit their work ethic ! There is nothing happens there, except a daily mass when they haven’t got an excuse to cancel it, and a couple of masses on a Sunday. Pretty much nothing else. No outreach, no engagement, no vision, no real plan of how to use a huge building and associated buildings in the centre of a city for the common good. Rather, they seem to excel in how not to be bothered too much to do anything but the bare essentials. And, into the bargain, running up huge debts that the rest of the diocese will end up having to pay. It’s a joke, clergy who have little interest other than their own convenience and comfort and that of the mates they have gathered around them to ‘work’ for them, clergy who have little idea or training or professionalism, except the ability to claim to be instant experts about everything because of the grace of ordination. I’m more concerned to see this sorted out in my city and cathedral rather than worry about Rome. I just want clergy who know what they are doing, are interested in other things than their own comfort and convenience, and can bother to show some sort of professional attitude to what they do, rather than just claiming authority and knowledge because they happen to have been smeared with the holy oils at ordination. The majority of them wouldn’t even make deputy headteacher in a primary school in a whole career, so useless are they. Any guesses as to the diocese and cathedral ? Answers on a postcard, please….
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10:57pm You could be speaking about almost any parish, they do business with their own inner circles and they suit themselves. Just fill the basket and mind your own business seems to be the status quo.
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