Yesterday, HELEN posted a document from
ICSA (International Cultic Studies Association, formerly AFF), is a secular, nonprofit, tax-exempt research center and educational corporation.
Here are the characteristics suggested for recognising a cult:
1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
8. The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
9. The group’s leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
12. Members’ subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
PAT
1. RCs are focused on a living religious leader – the pope
2. The RCs evangelise and convert.
3. The RCC is preoccupied with making money.
4. The RCC prohibits and punishes questioning, doubt, and dissent.
5. The RCC has always used techniques to stop people questioning it and its leaders – Counter Reformation, Spanish Inquisition, burning at the stake, excommunication, suspending priests cancling priests.
6. The RCC tells people how they should live and think.
7. The RCC is elitist, claims an exalted position for itself, and its leader is God’s representative on earth.
8. The RCC is us versus them – anti world and anto society.
9. The pope is not accountable to anyone on earth.
THE ROMAN PONTIFF
Can. 331 The bishop of the Roman Church, in whom continues the office given by the Lord uniquely to Peter, the first of the Apostles, and to be transmitted to his successors, is the head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ, and the pastor of the universal Church on earth. By virtue of his office he possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely.
Can. 332 §1. The Roman Pontiff obtains full and supreme power in the Church by his acceptance of legitimate election together with episcopal consecration. Therefore, a person elected to the supreme pontificate who is marked with episcopal character obtains this power from the moment of acceptance. If the person elected lacks episcopal character, however, he is to be ordained a bishop immediately.
§2. If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested but not that it is accepted by anyone.
Can. 333 §1. By virtue of his office, the Roman Pontiff not only possesses power over the universal Church but also obtains the primacy of ordinary power over all particular churches and groups of them. Moreover, this primacy strengthens and protects the proper, ordinary, and immediate power which bishops possess in the particular churches entrusted to their care.
§2. In fulfilling the office of supreme pastor of the Church, the Roman Pontiff is always joined in communion with the other bishops and with the universal Church. He nevertheless has the right, according to the needs of the Church, to determine the manner, whether personal or collegial, of exercising this office.
§3. No appeal or recourse is permitted against a sentence or decree of the Roman Pontiff.
Can. 334 Bishops assist the Roman Pontiff in exercising his office. They are able to render him cooperative assistance in various ways, among which is the synod of bishops. The cardinals also assist him, as do other persons and various institutes according to the needs of the times. In his name and by his authority, all these persons and institutes fulfill the function entrusted to them for the good of all the churches, according to the norms defined by law.
Can. 335 When the Roman See is vacant or entirely impeded, nothing is to be altered in the governance of the universal Church; the special laws issued for these circumstances, however, are to be observed.
10. The RCC believes the end justifies the means – i.e., a baby can not be aborted to save the life of the mother.
11. The RCC engenders guilt in members in order to control them.
12. The RCC insists that everything else is subservient to the God they describe and promote.
13. The RCC expects people to give a great deal of time and money to it.
14. The RCC encourages people to associate with other RCCs and avoid enemies of the RCC.
For instance, the RCC used to have two types of excommunicated:
A. “TOLERATI” – the excommunicated with which RCCs could have social (not spiritual) intercourse with.
B. “VITANDUS” – the excommunicated who should be totally and absolutely SHUNNED.
You could not even by a loaf of bread from them.
What do the readers think?
Is the RCC a cult?
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
132 replies on “IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH A CULT?”
A manipulative, narcissistic and money obsessed cult.
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Other signs of a cult
1: you have no personal choice and are signed up to it by others – as in childhood baptism in RCC
2 : You cannot leave the cult !!
they make Impossible to leave the RCC
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6:22am I can never understand why it is still legal for The Roman Catholic Church to be at all involved in the schools system worldwide when obstruction and coverup by Superiors on behalf of their clergy and Catholic laity is proven and ongoing. And they wonder why they are not trusted!
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I think they’re trusted too much.
The UN has described the church’s treatment of children as amounting to torture and you would think that would get a teacher sacked….
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Oh it’s easy to “leave” James. Just have nothing to do with it or anything connected to it. ‘tho I acknowledge that’s difficult for those with kids, given its stranglehold on many educational facilities.
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James has a lot to answer for
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James – has a lot to answer for ?
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JP II said that if we worship exactly that corporate greed and his eucharistolatry and his nasty Armadas, and fixate on other people’s genitals, we’ll beat the bolsheviks. We need to look and find out what the sexual abuses themselves are the cover / decoy for. Uncle Jorge’s trojan horse is the same old eucharists. Synod doesn’t need communion. There is hope for the catholic church if it ditches communion. As for numbers, the Vatican City’s “catechumenates” don’t genuinely instruct at all. I think the real catholic religion is only open to a few who knew it already (and who aren’t dressing it up either).
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The mocking disregard & ongoing retraumatising of RCC victims & survivors plus the proactive hate and venom spewed on this blog and elsewhere by clergy and their laity tells you that all you need to know – definitely a cult. Toxic Toms & Tinas throughout the RCC that has become a corrupt farce and den of inequity where evil prospers.
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Well, whether it is a cult or not, I don’t know. But what I do know is that it functions in an autocratic, oppressive, manipulative and fascist way, imposing on all sorts of people, laity and clergy, burdens that do not stand the test of civil law in the countries in which these laity and clergy live. It’s usually excused by the fact that the Church has its own canon law and can pretty much do what it wants. Or so it thinks. Increasingly, civil law and the state won’t buy this freedom of movement anymore, and believes that canon law and religious law should be trumped by civil law. Rightly so. In the last few weeks we have see the case of blatant. discrimination and hypocrisy in action and thought against LGTBQ people in a Catholic school in Bully Boy Wilson’s diocese, but equally we have seen pushback from the council and OFSTED who, rightly, think that the discriminatory and nasty Catholic attitude to people of alternative sexuality is wrong, and they are moving to make that point. Increasingly, the Catholic Church (and other medieval faiths like Islam) will find themselves subjected to the civil law and the state on important areas such as gender, sexuality and other hard won freedoms. They will scream and shout, but they will not win. Even within the privacy of the home, certain civil law protections and attitudes will reach in and root out nasty, vindictive, oppressive and harmful religious attitudes and views that damage and harm people. You better get used to it, dear bishops and imams.
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If the Religion of Peace says No…. the Koran has spoken, the case is closed. As was all too obvious in the case of gay relationship lessons in a very ordinary (Muslim majority) state primary school in Birmingham in 2019. Parliament had decreed gay relationship lessons in schools from 2020? Er…. I understand that alternative teaching materials are available which do not offend the religious. Very wise. If you are humiliating elected politicians, don’t do it too publicly.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/04/birmingham-school-stops-lgbt-lessons-after-parent-protests
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LOL if you looked into that case deeper you would find the protesters weren’t actually parents….
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This is true, however, if questions are asked outside the duristriction of a criminal court; and, or, there are unfinalised criminal investigations into related matters — which encompass those persons (or exhibits / accusations pertained therein the questioning) — then it could be seen as prudent to simply reply: “I must apologise to {whoever…} but it has recently come to my attention there are very serious criminal investigations in progress which I vehemently do not wish to impede.” You could add, “Especially given the serious nature of these offences.”
In addition, if those under criminal investigation are present, either in reality or virtually, then it would be most imprudent to even engage in anyway whatsoever. One could, inadvertently, bring down a whole safeguarding investigation involving kids and vulnerable adults!
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Remember, intentionally attempting to prevert the course of justice (this includes intimidating victims or witnesses) is a very, very serious criminal offence. The maximum sentence being upto life in prison.
Prisons are not always the “holiday” camps you hear of where prisoners get to play X-box™, PlayStation™ and get to mess about on Gran Turismo 7™ with fellow inmates during the day — and The Sims™ during the evening when in your cell and bored.
And, the men and women who commit crimes which directly affect the innocent, the defenceless in our society, are not put into these so-called “holiday” camps.
They are usually put into special segmented parts of the prison and have to work to specific regimnes. Sometimes they can be locked up for several-hours-a-day.
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“Therefore, come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord; do not touch any unclean thing, and I will welcome you.”
— 2 Corinthians 6: 17
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What takes it over the boundary for me is the idea of the mental reservation, that it’s okay to lie if it promotes the church. This is what was called Jesuitry for many centuries, although it isn’t limited to Jesuits.
How can you believe a single word of someone who belongs to a church with an actual theology of lying?
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Mental reservation is not a form of lying, 8.59.
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The traditional teaching of moral theologians is that a lie is intrinsically evil, and therefore, never allowed. However, there are instances where one is also under an obligation to keep secrets faithfully, and sometimes the easiest way of fulfilling that duty is to say what is false, or to tell a lie. Writers of all creeds and of none, both ancient and modern, have frankly accepted this position. They admit the doctrine of the “lie of necessity”, and maintain that when there is a conflict between justice and veracity it is justice that should prevail. The common Catholic teaching has formulated the theory of mental reservation as a means by which the claims of both justice and veracity can be satisfied.
If there is no good reason to the contrary, truth requires all to speak frankly and openly in such a way as to be understood by those who are addressed. A sin is committed if mental reservations are used without just cause, or in cases when the questioner has a right to the naked truth.
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More useless crap from the RC church. Lying is a normal part of being human. We all do it. Most of us like to think we don’t but we do.
Studies in this area show that children begun to lie once they have a grasp of language. This is as early as 3 years old possibly younger.
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‘sometimes the easiest way of fulfilling that duty is to say what is false, or to tell a lie’
… which just illustrates that it is a cowardly, childish way to deal with telling the truth.
This is why nations have laws about what information has to be made public or kept private, and how and when.
Another example would be the codes various professions are held by, which will include requirements for transparency and truthfulness.
Plus I can’t believe 10:04, because he might have typed that comment with a mental reservation. (My phone keeps trying to change it to mental retardation…. So even my Pixel can tell what’s really going on).
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Yes, Pat, a lie is a lie. No one is questioning this.
The passage you quoted is primarily about lying, not about mental reservation. Nor does the passage equate mental reservation with lying: it treats the two as distinctly different from each other morally.
Mental reservation is the deliberate omission of material facts when, for example, one party believes itself to be entitled to privacy about a certain matter.
Mental reservation does not involve deliberately telling untruths; in other words, telling lies. Should this ever happen, it ceases to be mental reservation and distinctly becomes lying.
The omission of material facts may mislead another in an exercise of mental reservation, but this is not lying, unless the person intentionally seeks to deceive another. On occasion, there can be a very fine line between lying and mental reservation, but the line (the distinction) is nevertheless there.
We all, at one time or another, have used mental reservation to protect ourselves or others.
A problem can arise if one uses mental reservation too often, and is known for doing so. In this case, the effect on others is much the same as it would be through outright lying: it can lead to suspicion, division, and the complete breakdown of interpersonal trust.
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I don’t agree with verbal gymnastics of tautology attempting to explain the RCC concept of mental reservation. It’s typical clerical codology. Is the word ‘reservation ‘ in itself a better tactic: reserve your silence. Or in that good aul Irish phrase: “Whatever you say, say nothing. “
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I’m not sure a global institution with 1.3 billion adherents constitutes a cult – cult like tendencies for sure but sects like Opus Dei and Neo Cat, Charismatic Covenant Communities come more easily under the cult category.
Some businesses too are run like cults – staff from the Jeremy Kyle show said they felt it was like a cult.
Most Catholics don’t care what the pope says or teaches anyway – he’s an old man whose pretty much irrelevant to peoples lives.
Catholicism at every level seems to rely on abuse of power in one form or another – it’s apparatchiks (bishops, priests, deacons, bossy lay people) are into whose the boss, whose in charge, whose got the most important role.
Jesus’ radical teaching in humility is ignored because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
If you said to a bunch of Catholics what would Jesus do – they’d find that hilarious the issue for them is what would Father do – only problem there is Father knows sweet fanny all.
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There are no size restrictions for cults.
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I have looked into the eyes of an evil man and not many can say that
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Likewise, there are no restrictions on the size of those to whom membership may be held 😂
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9:04am Well Said – Catholicism at every level relies on an abuse of power at some level from Bishops down to bossy lay people. Christianity flew out the window when corruption flew in and settled in very nicely, thank you.
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Not only are there no size descriptors for cults but the ‘we’re biggest and best and the Larne Oratory is tiny’ crowd are displaying the gravy train logical fallacy.
I can’t wait to hear them say ‘size isn’t everything’ when Moslems outnumber them, which will probably be in the next five minutes.
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Our last parish priest was an attention seeking spiv with expensive tastes, just like you’d find in any cult. His Current whereabouts are now a Mystery. Typical how gossipy clergy & their laity can keep secrets for their own = Cult.
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9.24am who is your former PP?
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9:24am Your last parish priest makes Ger Fitzgerald look pale in comparison – no cheap chip shops for your pp we take it 🤣
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Yvonne brought Ger for a number of restaurant meals. When it was his turn, it was a bag of chips in the car in Limerick.
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9:24am We’ve always wondered who on earth approved Ger Fitzgerald for ordination? What he did came as no surprise only that it took so long to emerge publicly but serious outstanding questions remain about why he was ordained in first place. He clearly wasn’t an appropriate contact point for vulnerable parishioners & the consequent treatment that Yvonne was subjected to by his laity speaks for itself. The laity do the dirty work at ground level for the pp.
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The Ger Fitzgerald saga is far from over.
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11:28 Fitzgerald and Carey won’t care, they were always protected by the brass neck brigade.
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10:02am Are you serious?? It was wrong of him to accept restaurant meals from a young lady whom we understand soon afterwards became homeless – he would surely have known she was vulnerable and only trying to impress him. It was up to him to be the bigger person. Very sad and hope that she is ok now.
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Ger has a reputation for being as tight as a duck’s ass – that’s water tight.
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Pat are you content with Kevin Connolly 😳
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No. Never have been.
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The Cult that is the RCC is a business first and foremost these days. That’s the sad reality. Anyone who believes otherwise is in denial. They don’t respect Joe Bloggs or Praying Mary because their meagre contributions don’t keep the show on the road. Their powerful and bossy laity call the shots there.
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The Grindr Swindler works for the NHS, to think we all supported and clapped for these ‘key workers’ over the course of a lot of months.
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Textbook troll comment.
Stupid, wrong and intended, if it falls to start an argument, to block up the forum with stupid irrelevant comments and discourage other people by making them wade through shit.
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What’s the matter, ‘father’, jealous nobody claps you?
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Kris
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Utter useless bollox of a post. There are 60,000+ people working for NHS in NI and because the Grindr Swindler allegedly works for NHS, the NHS does not deserve our praise or respect?
If you know who the Grindr Swindler is ( and they are blackmailing individuals) then you have a legal and moral responsibility to report this to the PSNI instead of posting your bullshit hear.
My guess is that if the G Swindler exits it’s likely to be someone like you – I hope you have masked your IP address.
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11:08am Will you go away for yerself! There is no Grindr Swindler, he’d get no handy money from ducks arse clergy, sure look at poor Yvonne, yer man, Ger Fitzgerald, ate all her restaurant dinners and wouldn’t even throw in a cod or a haddock with the chips in the car for her when it his turn to buy! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Chip Swindler 🍟🍟🍟🍟🍟
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Of course the RCC is a cult. Which can be described as a ‘group that is defined by its unusual religious beliefs’. They are obsessed with sex, whether before marriage, during it or after it. The type of sex you have. The contraception you may or may not use. The need to reproduce. A priests celibacy (bonkers). Homosexuals. Confession of your sins to a sinner (just confess to god?).
Outdated and a declining role in peoples lives. RCC is doomed and I will delight in the collapse of this cult. A shame it will not be in my lifetime.
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The likes of you and your atheist opinions are not welcome here at all. Why they are allowed to be published is questionable.
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Jacq the best thing to do is ignore this troll
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Jacq
Dan makes some good points which are true in that the clergy are obsessed with our sex lives and want us to breed like rabbits .
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They want all these poor women to breed and when they have all these kids they can not afford to look after what does Fr do? Have a siesta in his 4 bedroom mansion while ‘Chardonnay’ struggles to feed her kids.
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2:56pm Father likes to drink well chilled Chardonnay, he is not aufait with people who are actually christened Chardonnay. Fact is that they are simply not on his orbit.
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‘Chardonnay’ needs to let loose of the cult then and not abide by their stupid century’s old and dated views.
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While it may be a cult. A lot of questions have to be asked of any man entering this ‘profession’. What is wrong with them? Let’s face it, it’s easy for me as an atheist to question them and question what all you people believe in. But the bible is the greatest fantasy book ever composed AND believed. I think all who claim to be Christian or catholic, are the biggest fools (and hypocrites) to walk mother planet.
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A cult is a small group of people. RCC is not small.
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Did you bother reading the post?
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This blog is increasingly becoming a platform for atheism
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The Blog talks about all isms.
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Got to love an Ism
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Perhaps you are misunderstanding Neil?
Atheism is not an “ism” propounding any set of beliefs. It is best understood as a stance which, having examined the tenets of religious beliefs, is not persuaded of their cogency, and, in consequence, questions both specific aspects of religious beliefs and in particular, the totality of their reliability as to how we should conduct our lives.
+Pat’s blog provides a forum for questioning religious beliefs. Intelligent convincing replies however are noteably absent
MMM
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As a self proclaimed atheist why come on this blog at all? Clearly has a vendetta that you are allowing to happen Pat
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Please moderate todays comments better and let’s have an adult debate.
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When reading the definition of cult, every organisation is one
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Thank you ‘father’. Just like child abuse is society’s problem.
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12:01pm. It won’t be long until the Cathbots are on here again blaming them families for what happened their loved ones in institutions that Clergy & State doorstepped & called out from altar and shamed into slavery in sweat shops with their offspring sold like calves at market to the highest bidders with money but No police vetting and passport and other paperwork fiddled now today proving to be so obstructive in orphans search for birth family. An outrageous and ongoing abuse of human rights. Joe Public would be arrested for falsifying a passport application but RCC is exempt from this law????
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RCC the greatest puppet show live
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I have a neighbour priest who you would never think is a priest the way he composes and presents himself
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11:58am Our PP has always been a two faced and highly vindictive funeral thug.
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Some might be wanting to present themselves as some sort of everyman, others are ashamed of the priesthood, but I think there are more than a few who consider themselves off duty once they have said their Mass for the day, and maybe chat to some of the groupies after Mass.
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Where is Helen?
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Free P are the biggest cult with Arlenes finger stirring the tea pot
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I thought Arlene was COI?
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Bishop when are you going to learn that people are leaving comments here with the intention of stirring the pot and taking the piss? This one isn’t even pretending to be factual but you’ve published it and responded to it.
You rightly critcise the dysfunctional dynamic of the RC church but bizarrely let them carry it on on your own blog and don’t stop them.
Yet you critcise bishops for not acting…
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Arlene is church of Ireland you are right Pat
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Arlene was speaking about the great loss of her friend Martin McGuinness – whoever have thought
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The Presbyterians are not that much greater in number compared to Anglicans. The Great Famine had quite a negative impact on a class of Presbyterian linen weavers, who variously starved, died of disease or left for America.
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Is the RCC a cult? To all intents and purposes, it is, particularly given its emphasis on papal/episcopal leadership and the coercion (the imputation of sin and punishment, especially eternal damnation) of the ‘Faithful’ to accept and comply with its teaching.
The coercive nature of governance is evident in the documents of the Church, most notably in the papal encyclical, Vehementor Nos (the ‘duty of the Faithful to allow themselves to be led’), but also in some documents of the Second Vatican Council, which express much the same obligation.
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Our parish priest and his sidekick should have joined the army – 2 right Major Generals but of course, they knew it best to avoid their own match if they did. Still, not too late now WW3 is looming.
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I know this looney bin lid and his side kick they love eating out in each others arms
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The principle reason for the cultish character of the Roman Catholic Church is the theology of Apostolic Succession, in particular, the assumptive doctrine, ‘Petrine Office’. This is based on a passage in Matthew, which has Jesus declare Simon Peter to be the foundation of the church. However, the passage is fake, at least in part.
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I haven’t seen one Ukrainian here so where are they all going? The Protestants are taking them in to halt a United ireland.
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The UK rules are making it very hard to get them in.
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The bureaucracy around it is awful. I think we should open the borders to all. Who are we to say this land we were born on is ours.
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1:12pm Go Down South if you want to see Ukrainians – there were huge numbers of them already arrived over their Irish Bank Holiday weekend. Some working already and housed and everything- going like a clockwork orange 🍊 it is down there.
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Name and shame the priests involved romantically
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Fr Patrick Lavery would be turning in his grave at you lot. Shameful bunch of men.
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The priest that had an argument in the street with that woman should hang his head in shame
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Barra best days this will be the hottest day of the year so far
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Patrick Buckley do you believe that the church is now a cult?
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I think it is.
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“And Jesus said to them, ‘Well, then, pay to the Emperor that which belongs to the Emperor — and give to God what belongs to God.’ ”
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Incidentally
According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary; a Chancellor, or deputy Chancellor, is
3 a : a lay legal officer or adviser of an Anglican diocese. Just saying.
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William Mulvihill has too much to say for himself the damn melter
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I disagree
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1.46 Pardon ?
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@2.07pm @William
I beg your pardon, I never gave you a har don
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1.46: Absolutely. William says too much in a contrarian and bizarre manner. He seems to need this blog for attention.
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2.39 Well , I’ve clearly got yours !!!😂
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It’s only bizarre to you as you lack the intelligence to understand it. I don’t grasp what Bill says all the time but he speaks the most sense of all on this blog.
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1.46 Canadians are the politest people in the Western World.
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I feel it in my fingers and I feel it in my toes. The RCC as we know it will not last the next decade.
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@2 :12pm
Marty you’re not the first to say that, let me assure you The Holy Church will be here, long after you’re toast!😏
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3.00: By your own admissiin of not always understanding William’s verbiage, are you of limited intelligence? Think you are. Sorry…Dan
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5.05 Stop attacking those with personal remarks who don’t concur with your controlling influence.
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@ 3:00pm
Dan you really are desperate altogether.
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Dan is a fool. A RN wannabe. But has not the intellect of RN or WM. RN is intelligent – his argument is weak. Desperate Dan you are an idiot fool.
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When this happens I fear the church will be wet wet wet forever
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2,12 Wet Wet Wet had the measure of the RCC a couple of decades ago, they hated it! Great Music….even better lyrics.
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1.46 Etymology of “ melt “ , to become liquid through heat.thereabouts anyway. Dear Blogger, if you have ever read An Imaginary Life by David Malouf, you may be familiar with what he suggests a stationary stone on the ground longs for; to be molten again. There is a gravitas to us all being “ melter” s …. Though I know you did not intend a compliment.
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Ignore the true melters bill
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Sometimes it only takes one act of kindness to cheer someone up. Thank you
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Pat, Florida has passed a ‘controversial’ bill outlawing the discussion of sexual orientation or gender identity in primary school for children under 10. I agree with this bill but why do the alphabet people (lgbtqixyz) have to be outraged at everything?
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3:31pm. Our Parish Priest loves Florida.
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Let’s all leave the cult
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@ 3:37pm
You’s can if you want, you wont be missed, Bye! Bye!
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The Catholic Cult ruled by a priestly caste overlords of the lay class whose sole role is to pray, pay and obey.
Sounds like a weird cult to me.
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You can track the shambles that is TUSLA and social work system to their over reliance on clerical referencing.
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Why are so many priests little (or even big Hitlers).
This happens in cults where people are given positions of leadership or authority over others and then they just dish it out – only thing is with Catholic cult – these Nazis are told they are in person Christ and are ontological changed unlike the poor lay bastards who pay for every penny of their entitled life including the toilet paper which they wipe their arses with (if they can reach)
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3.44: Sonia: a most ridiculous remark. TUSLA was established in more recent years – 2014 – and had/has nothing to do with the church, religious or clerics. This agency of the state has defined its own ethos, mission and raison d’etre. This agency has been found negligent in respect of many serious child safeguarding concerns. Like many state agencies and institutions – HSE, An Gardai, Church, various Departments – this agency has found its own way of defending the indefensible at times. You should take a look at the history of TUSLA and observe its modus operandi with a more honest approach. Soundbytes do not ever serve the cause of truth or justice.
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Pat when are our refugees coming and what is the hold up?
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Uk Ted tape / visas
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5.01: Gardai or PSNI vetting is a must for all who have signed up to take a refugee. Also, I believe that children and teenagers should only be housed with families. It’s a more natural and secure setting for them. Parents understand best the emotions, worries, needs and difficulties of children. Older single men and women and couples who have no children can be welcomed by others, but children only with families. The environment for any refugee must be carefully chosen. The red tape in Britian seems unnecessarily long.
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I think placing mothers and children with couples and their children is a fairly perfect match.
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I am yet to encounter a priest that is actually confident or good at sex.
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I have, but he was a priest of the Church of Sweden.
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A Mid Ulster one has plenty of confidence anyway . . .
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Robert Nugent has been keeping a low profile. Have you and him fallen out Pat?
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No.
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Brendan Coffey has said Kirby is his best in his new surroundings
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Meaning, surrounded by old Dutch nuns rather than young men? That’s a no-brainer, Lord Abbot. Would that you had that perspicacity when you were actually running the visitation that declined to remove the old pervert in the first place.
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Pat
Robert is looking for a bishop to consecrate a Fatima statute to Russia so we can have peace in the world . Can you do it?
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7.54: I’ve watched the two videos by RN re: Statue of our Lady of Fatima and his request for a bishop to take the statue to his cathedral and join in prayer for Consecration of Russia and Ukraine to our Lady. RN is disappointed that no bishop has responded to his offering of the statue. Personally, I think Robert is OTT on this and is unfairly drawing silly conclusions. Robert, we can all pray for Ukraine and Russia without statues. I think you are very misguided in the real focus for the calling to prayer by Pope Francis. Pray, Pray, Pray. This we will do.
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Today, on the 22nd day of Lent, we read Matthew 22 as we continue our Lenten reading towards the Sacred Triduum. 22 more days to go.
22:18 …Why put me to the test, you hypocrites?
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22:21 …Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.
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On the topic of today, I didn’t read anything about a cult yesterday.
21:02 Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me.
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21:07 They brought the donkey and the colt, placed their cloaks on them.
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21:12 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.
21:13 “It is written,” he said to them, “`My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it a `den of robbers.’”
Pax.
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8.55 seamusviii, you say you didn’t read anything about a cult yesterday. What happened your 21st day of Lent so..?
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‘On the topic of today, I didn’t read anything about a cult yesterday.
21:02 Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me.’
What an unfortunate juxtaposition.
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