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PRIEST LAMENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO BLESS GAY COUPLES.

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Dear Paddy,

It is a very good thing that you have come out and said what you did about not being able to bless living gay couples – but you can bless cars, tractors, etc.

I have been celebrating gay blessings for 36 years now.

And, since the change in the law, both North and South, I am now celebrating fully legal gay marriages.

And when a gay couple asked for it, I have always and still do celebrate a full Catholic Nuptial Mass for these couples and their families.

At one, such Mass recently attended by 250 guests who all went to Communion, two nuns in their 80s, aunts of one of the groom’s offered to help me distribute Holy Communion.

Both families, including family members in their 70s and 80s, were ecstatically happy and so proud of their two young men.

It was a wonderful day, simply celebrating love.

Why do I marry fay couples?

I marry gay couples because Jesus, who loves them, wants me to impart His blessing on their life and love.

YOU PADDY

You obviously believe that Jesus would want you as a priest to bless love like this, too.

Maybe you do offer a “secret” blessing to some?

But why do such a good thing in an occult manner?

It’s probably because you fear repercussions from your bishop and the Church?

This means that you are not doing what Jesus wants you to do because you are afraid of men.

Is that not a great contradiction in the life of a Christian and a disciple of the Lord?

How can you continue that contradiction and live with it when you don’t have to?

Do you not believe in the words of Acts 5:29

“Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than human beings!

Paddy, why are you obeying men instead of God?

Is that not a serious sin?

Your brother priest,

Pat

FROM FATHER BERNARD LYNCH

MISNEACH


Our Love, I was told was on the wrong side of the Gospel. I believed in the Love that was forbidden, so I believed too, I should be punished. In Love, like all people, we cry to be embraced for who we are. Everyone, from the first dawning of consciousness wants life giving moments, when the heart is filled with wonder and Hope. How else can we find ultimate meaning?
The great evil is to make any of the feelings of Love sin and shame. They’re the church made the greatest false claims against us, and against god and the universe. God is within us all, this god we call Love. We knew this, and felt this, as we held in our arms emaciated bodies crying with fear and pain. We were trying to find with the men sick and dying with AIDS, strength never to abandon Love . . . Never to abandon themselves . . . Love is never the reason for punishment, as they were told . . . Only men and women in their weakness, their cruelties, their hatred of themselves could ever call Love disordered or evil.

This is part of the battle for god and Love we wage forever and a day . . . Our weaknesses, successes and failures, are what make us fully human and more compassionate.

Love triumphs over everything and can never be corralled . . . Our humanity may have scars like tattoos which tell a tale of formidable struggle . . . These struggles are never so well expressed as when we struggle for others . . . We learn again and again that in the army of Lovers, only the wounded may serve . . . Everyone’s life at a level is a journey for Love . . . Sometimes this is through fear and ignorance, through a misapprehension of how we might be good, exactly because we are trying for the Impossible Love . . . We are made for the Impossible Love . . . As friends and lovers we know that at the most profound level this restless recklessness in us is Eternal . . . It is impossible to stop Love . . . There is no gift from Creation which matters more and gives our humanity forever more room to grow. Our generation is not finished with telling our tale of Justice and Love. Let us keep on the work of always alerting others to treasure how they experience Love. Let us imagine a day when there is nothing further in the way, and cruelty is no longer one of its false appearances. Then we will have a fully human resurrection. Happy Easter.

189 replies on “PRIEST LAMENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO BLESS GAY COUPLES.”

A priest cannot morally bless a gay union because this would mean blessing sexual acts that are unequivocally condemned in the Bible at every point of reference.
A priest who blesses what is sinful is harming souls, and he will be accountable for it.

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11.30
Bela Lugosi Govan your miserable caricatures of our loving anf gracious God are worse that outright blasphemy. Your depictions of God are idols and false.

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12:41 I think she’s spot on, actually. If you actually read the bible you’ll see a genocide because he’s having a bad day is pretty standard for him.
He did also require his own son to die to prevent the punishment he was going to give to his own creation because they didn’t behave.
The Judeo-Christian god is a monster and the only father he is modelled on is an abusive one.
Incidentally, because this is bound to make you all go into ‘bUt WhAt AbOuT iSlAm’ mode – there is significantly less violence in the Quran and Allah kills fewer people. So if you’re going to try the ‘look at them’ diversion, as always you’re on to a loser.

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Bela Lugosi Govanhill is all a pretence Bella loves to dress up and has had many a fella.
Bella loves the heels and the Men.
It is true to say that Bella is fae the LMB.
Double Standard and likely using the Canonical age to take part in the Easter Triduum however we will see.

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1.16
What an utter and sad travesty is your sorry post!
There is only one God. It was this one God who died on Calvary in the person Jesus. And it was not to offer humanity the opportunity of salvation from any punisment that would be inflicted by God, but which would be the natural outworking of sin on the human body and soul.
This opportunity is given to all, even to the most wretched, the most ungrateful, and to the greatest of scoffers.

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@2:50: What an unbelievable amount of gobbledygook crap individuals like you come out with!
Have you any proof whatsoever for this sanctimonious utterance?

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@11.30
We will all be called to account.
If my sins are that I erred on the side of trying too hard to ensure people are aware that God loves them… then so be it. I’d rather that then to have errored by having people think that they are damned for being gay in the way God made them. Please bare in mind, God doesn’t make mistakes. Humans make mistakes… choose your mistake wisely.

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4.41
Of course there is proof, Kieran. And it is absolutely irrefutable and conclusive. And it will come post-mortem.
Your anger is telling, Kieran.

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Anon@ 7:49: No anger at all: just incredulity! Your “post mortem” jibe is just another threat regularly used by cathbots. But that too, like all the religious propositions is simply ridiculous.
Still then, you’ve probably no idea whatsoever of how preposterous it all sounds.

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But what about when clergy who cover up and do all sorts of immoral things for each other? Is it alright for a priest to do things which pro-actively cause pain and distress to others? No. So, then, why is it “off limits” to bless a couple who have simply fallen in love? God is love.
The Roman institution is so out of touch in this regard—and some. It’s a really sensitive issue; turning away people who are in love who just want to make their love known among the community.
It is just antequicated theology getting in the way of the life and charism of the community x

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12.26
Fallen in love? Love is fine, but it is not a moral licence to do as it pleases: it, too, must be guided by morality. And morality here condemns homosexual acts.
I believe that gay relationships could be blessed IF the couples vowed sexual continence.

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@ 12:26am
Oh! please, of course it is not alright for priests to do anything that causes scandal to others. That doesn’t mean other renegade freethinking priest’s can cause scandal by blessing unions that are illicit.

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Absolute balderdash.
The Bible was written by men. It is wrong. An absolute fundamental of sexuality, including homosexuality, is that it is not a lifestyle choice – people are born gay, straight or bi or whatever. Gay people simply ARE gay. They didn’t choose this. They didn’t wake up one morning and decide to be gay.
If we are to accept the world and its inhabitants and nature as being God’s design then we must accept that homosexuality is part of that. I cannot fathom how or why God Botherers cannot process this simple fact. Instead of making life miserable for a minority of people simply because of remarks by gobshites 2,000 years ago you should be actively encouraging their participation in everything. Remember this is the same Christian Church that said the world was flat. They have form when it comes to stupidity.

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Well said Fr Todd, especially the beginning: “The Bible was written by men.” Yes it is absolute balderdash. Hard to believe that so many think it’s……….well, ….absolute “gospel”!
………..And that they base their whole belief system and actions on it!!!!!!!
MMM

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7.18
Of course the Bible was written by men; no one said otherwise. But God has spoken through their words.
Those whose hearts are good will recognise his voice, and his universal and absolute truths. Why, even an atheist like MMM has professed on occasion here the value of such propositions!

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So help me out here Winston – when MEN change the rules of how we interpret this ‘mediated’ word of God – and they clearly have changed them – who am I to believe. The bible or people who are trying to act in the spirit of goodness. If I where to go with the word of the bible

I would not wear clothes of mixed fibres, I could sell my daughter to pay of a debt , I would be punished for eating shellfish or pork. I could pretend my wife was my sister so that a man couldn’t kill me if another man wanted to marry her.

I could force my wife to remain indoors and sleep in another bed if she was menstruating.

I could have a wife but also have a paid concubine should my wife prove infertile.

I could go on and on ….

….. so tell me Winston – why are these divine Mandates now considered ‘outmoded?’ When did MEN get to decide and how did they decide that these strictures no longer apply?

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Fr. Unctious @ 7:18am (although guess your not really a cleric…). — I agree with that, it is definitely not a choice. People are so unique; and our personalities are a reflection of our uniqueness.
Our sexuality is not just a single element of our essence- it’s part and parcel of who we are as a person.
“And God saw everything that He had made, and said: ‘Behold, it is beautiful…’ So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
— Genesis 1:31

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Fr Todd U at 7.18am
Good point re bible written by men. Never saw a bible or a collection of stories around jesus time written by women.
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Remember that the Bible was founded by Catholic (early Christians) which they controlled, or blocked access to the Bible to other people and guarded it like a jealous one as if its their own property.
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Knew two deaf guys at very early young age around 4 to 7,whom I thought exhibited female behaviour. I didn’t understand at that time when I was v young re female behaviour exhibited by them.
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Both of them have confirmed it for me that they knew they were different (ie gay) at the age of five, other one was at age of 7. One of them said to me at one time, they felt they were born gay, maybe down to genetics or something that we don’t know. Know of one well known retired hurler now openly gay plus his younger brother came out as gay. Their mother was sort of upset but got over it.
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Knew another deaf man who got hitched toa clearly unmistakable gay man but told his father that he’s gay and getting married (some 9 years ago) . His father wouldn’t speak to him for months until his wife persuaded him to attend their son wedding. Now he’s a proud father who got over it and accepted their son relationship. He said to me what matters now is the love of their son and support him.

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Deaf Guy at 9:58 Not written by women, but if you haven’t come across them you might like to check out the apocryphal gospels.
Lost Christianities by Bart Ehrman is a guide to early Christian groups which have not survived and lost out in the struggle for dominance and power (although the Romanists call it orthodoxy).

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Typical Romish sophistry at 9:46. You know full well that 7:18 implicitly meant the bible isn’t divinely inspired.
If it was, y’all wouldn’t carry on the way you do.

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Yes Winston@ 9:46, the propositions, or at least the ones advocating kind & generous actions, are indeed valuable. But these evolved over countless generations as being supportive to the perpetuation of our species. The men (always men!) writing the tracts which eventually made up the bible just wrote contemporary tales advising “propositions ” already in the realm of human knowledge as helpful to our species: as well of course as all that other “not so helpful” ugly behaviour exemplified by other bible characters. Can you explain that, ….and Christianity’s cherry picking piggy backing credit taking for the “holy aspects” of the Bible?
MMM

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10.09
No, not everything was changed by men, Akhenaten: prohibition of homosexual acts is common to both the Old and New Testaments.

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10.55
Yes, MMM, I can explain that very easily.
The Bible, contrary to what literalists believe, is not free of error, precisely because it involves, to some degree, human agency. Therefore, not just human thoughts along with divine truths, but, and inevitably, human error as well.
No great mystery.

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Winston: you say…..”the Bible involves….to SOME degree, human agency…..” Oh dear!
Just SOME?
You make no mention of the cherry picking of Christianity nor the ugly bits of the bible others, eg Akhenaten have mentioned.
The whole gibberish of Christianity is truly preposterous: that’s my opinion.
Anyway: each to their own
MMM

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5.58
MMM, ‘to some extent’ was an indeterminate but honest phrase…fom my perspective as a Christian. Unlike you, I believe in God and believe, too, that he inspired the biblical authors. Of course, the balance here between divine inspiration and the capacity for human error I cannot determine; hence my phrase ‘to some extent’. Frustrating for someone like you, no doubt; but honest, too.
I should not have thought it necessary to say anything about ‘cherry picking’, since such a practice becomes inevitable with a book unfree of human error, but, nonetheless, with much to commend it in terms of divine wisdom: you know, finding the genuine nuggets and discarding the fool’s gold.
I did at least allude to the ‘ugly bits of the Bible’; I’m sure I did. I explained them as the product of fallible human nature. Surely you can distinguish between the character of Christ, and that of Baal, in the Old Testament? If you can (and I’m sure you can), then you could have explained for yourself those ugly bits that were mentioned. It really isn’t that difficult, since the character of Christ is, for Christians, the supreme and exemplary benchmark. Anything less than this, by definition, was not inspired by him.
You almost shocked me with those words of yours ‘the whole gibberish of Christianity is truly preposterous’. I was certainly surprised by them. Didn’t you, earlier this very day, express appreciation of certain biblical sentiments? I rather think you did. These are part (a fundamental part) of Christianity, too, MMM. So to describe these in such an off-handed and scornful fashion makes you appear…Well, to be polite, more than a little self-contradictory.
Perhaps you just forgot what you said earlier.

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Winston, at 5:52 you refer to “certain biblical sentiments as a fundamental part of Christianity” with what one might think a sense of precious exclusivity: almost as if it was your God who dreamed up some previously unheard-of “good advisory bits” then delegated some Arab tribesmen (always men!) to incorporate them into contemporary narratives so that we, thousands of years later might learn from them how to behave. The “we” of course being the chosen ones of Christianity.
What was your alleged God doing for the couple of hundred thousand years of humanity’s evolutionary existence prior to the bible’s “elongated arrival “? Sitting on his hands waiting for the right moment?
A more weird, contradictory, inconsistent and utterly foolish concept of a god can hardly be imagined. A more idiotic form of communication than the much disputed bible tracts from an allegedly almighty God can hardly be imagined.
I make no apology for considering the whole shebang of it utterly ridiculous gibberish.
MMM

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@10.25 pm
How is the soul being harmed?
I would have thought that the persons souls would be very happy about having been blessed. Am I wrong?

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How are souls being harmed, 7.56? They are being encouraged to feel comfortable with sin, homosexual acts, not to repent of them.

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Deaf Guy at 1:36
Thanks – he’s written several books all with the word lost in the subject but the one I was thinking of was lost Christianities.
As for the bible being ‘corrupted’ – don’t forget that the bible did not start off as a single bound book. It existed in a number of hand copied manuscripts in which there are the slight variations you would expect. They can even be grouped together by which have been copied from each other!
There therefore isn’t an original bible to be corrupted. In published texts of the original languages you can see the various readings and variations listed at the bottom. There isn’t anything sinister about this!
All translators make a decision which variation to go with.
Often however, people make out that other people who have decided differently are corrupting the text. An example would be the people who will only go by the King James bible or the text underlying it. They can make extraordinary claims about other translations such as them being deliberately satanic.

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Anon at 10.23pm
Thanks, I came across that name of Barth Erhman in YouTube before. I didn’t know that he wrote a book as you said it, what was the title of that book?
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Barth was interesting cos he said that there were some contradictions in the bible which flagged up. Cos I didn’t know that as I try to keep an open mind to see on both sides.
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Also someone if not Barth had said that new testament was bit corrupted which give rise to a concern that being compromised instead of accuracy and precision, truthfulness etc. That’s bugged me as whom is telling the truth, rcc or Bible of NT was corrupted which gives rise to a concern.
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I’m interested in first 300 hundred years before rcc was founded and became institutional. That’s where rcc had lost the track.
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Cos I came across a Catholic healer from NI, now deceased as he used unorthodox methods which got lot of healings and attention as well. The clue was the bible in 1st 300 years relying on HS and using the Bible words which sounded strange to me but it did work for me when needed be. He was anointed and sensitive in spiritual aspects.
He usually held 1 day healing day of prayer and talks in a hotel, never in a rcc cos old ladies or die hard Catholic ladies reported him to some bishops here and there in various dioceses cos he mentioned dangers of new age, bishops doing nothing to help the distressed laity people. I remember seeing a RC church across from a hotel, no healings in RC church, whereas in a hotel where he was preaching, lot of ‘little’ miracles. It made me realise and thought ‘what’s wrong with rcc re no healings took place’ cos people were taught in the wrong way by rcc. His book was v good.

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There is no suggestion here that the cardinal is calling for moral approval of homosexual intercourse.

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2.37

I commented also at 9.40. I said that gay unions could be blessed if the couples vowed sexual continence.

Can you see where this is going? Church teaching could indeed be changed without overturning its moral prohibition of homosexual acts.

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Literally only a cathbot could even suggest that changing the church’s teaching on homosexuality wouldn’t include sex.

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Fr Paddy is courageous to say something which the majority of the faithful would agree with – the sensus fidelium in action.

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10.26
Presumptious of you to say that the majority of the Faithful would agree with that priest’s view on blessing gay unions. What is your evidence for such a claim?

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LOL haven’t you noticed the majority of the faithful and the clergy ignore the church’s teaching full 🛑

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9:16am. True. It’s like The Pick & Mix sweet shop for the clergy & their “faithful”. Faithful to their own self interest, certainly not to God. The so called Faithful do even more to drive numbers away from church than priests themselves do.

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11.33
The same-sex referendum in Ireland is a reliable indication of the sensus fidelium Hiberniorum.

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11.44

Ireland isn’t the Catholic world. There was no sensus fidelium on that occasion, just naked rebellion against divine teaching.

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12.57

Human teaching and interpretation? Isn’t that precisely what YOUR thoughts on this subject are? Human teaching and interpretation.

Be careful peddling that old chestnut, a convenient cop-out from universal moral truths. There is a cost.

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If the referendum on Ireland on equal marriage is anything to by then he may be right. Remember, Catholicism is the religion of the majority on the island.

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@ 10:26pm
I don’t agree that this Fr. Byrne is courageous, he is wrong. How do you know the majority of the faithful would agree with him. If they did they would not be faithful to The Holy Church which condemns such actions.

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I am sure the very many priests who have same-sex relations, some even on altars, would join you in condemning Fr Paddy.

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It doesn’t matter that you do these marriages since you are excommunicated and they are not licit. You say that 250 persons attending went to communion! I wonder how many of them were in the state of grace! I wonder when was the last time any of them had been to confession. As for the two nuns in their eighties even being there they must be Ga! Ga! I’m quite sure they did not have permission from their Superior. Its all so sad as well as bad.

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Ah yes I remember , blessing of the animals. he blessed all the cars to during the big storms , mind you would never of thought he was into sex, drugs, cheating, married women and ghosting…
He’s a fake I’m afraid.

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Spare me from yet another attention seeking wannabe media priest trying to make headlines and craving attentiob.

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Seems hypocritical that RCC cover up for all manner of wrongdoing and corruption but at same time won’t bless a marriage union between 2 gay people. Double standards & hypocrisy in this as in other matters.

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Paddy’s priesthood is centred completely on the person of paddy.
It is a life spent faithfully proclaiming the good news of Paddy.
Paddy strives to bring people close to the saving and compassionate presence of paddy, and so make the kingdom of paddy present in this world.
Paddy is a faithful servant of paddy, whom he models himself on.
O yes Paddy has ‘married ‘ people in hotel reception rooms, ‘using’ the catholic rites, who were not free to be married sacremently. Paddy ‘uses’ the rites of the church, to advance the kingdom of paddy. (He obviously forgets that people tend to take pictures at such events).

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Pat, surely you don’t expect Fr. Paddy to follow you? That certainly would be a disaster for Paddy. Fr. Paddy is a very good and decent human being and brings amazing humanity and perceptiveness to his ministry. He is hugely respected by parishioners and he reaches out to many in the “margins”. This priest, Pat, is faithful to God and to Christ. Your effort to diminish his ministry is pitiable. God bless you Fr. Paddy in your wonderful ministry. You reach many hearts – for the better! Keep strong in your faith, priesthood and witness to Christ.

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With such naked dissent from church teaching will paddy seek admission to the Anglican ministry: in good conscience he cannot take payment or benefits from a church who teaching he does not believe. It also raises questions about his ordinary: how can he deem that man fit to be a priest.

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11.21
Your view is not Christian. St Paul says ‘For freedom, Christ has set us free.’ Freedom of conscience. Conscience is supreme.

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1.33
You are confusing conscience with personal inclination: with desire. A common error.

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Alana, dear, some people are sensible, integrated, happy, pro-choice, and gay. If you want to be a sad closeted queen, well, better take some vitamin d supplements.

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I read on Russian social media that in the west people routinely marry donkeys, but that may not be true of course.

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12:20am Well Said. These hypocrites abuse kids & vulnerable yet condemn a loving gay union but just one example is that their laity used their influence in their workplace resulting in the death of Savita Halappanvar who although suffering sepsis was repeatedly denied the life saving abortion she needed in an Irish hospital on the basis that “this is a Catholic Country”. At the same time clergy & laity are covering up for clerics involved in sexual and financial abuse of parishioners & engaging in various forms of general harassment including spreading lies and innuendo, character assassination amongst other reprehensible practices. High time for the RCC to clean up its own corrupt shitshow & stop victimisation & harassment of parishioners to attempt to defend their indefensible parasites. Look after yourself & hoping life is treating you better these days. Well Done for being a Survivor, many are not that strong so RCC get away with so much when victims are silenced by results of RCC abuse.

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It’s sad to see that a Catholic priest not able to bless it.
For instance, frankie off the cuff speaker and not (from script handed over to him) , immaculately dressed in all white, gave a blessing to all people that includes all gay couples in a televised address irrespective of their religion. This isn’t restricted to Catholics but to all people of varying denominations, sex and gender as well.
Don’t think jesus would wear such immaculate clothes that frankie did, in my mind jesus would wear casual dress and out of sight or invisible until he broke the bread or gave himself away via clues or hint.
Who said that any priest cannot bless any gay couple? 🤷‍♂️

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@ 5:14am
Its taking you too long to wean yourself off this blog. Just because in your mind Our Divine Lord would wear ‘casual’ clothes’ I’m sure just to correct you He would wear the most sumptuous Cappa Magna to frighten the life of you. Who said any priest could bless any same sex couple?

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Actually Deaf Guy, please keep commenting, simply because 9:53 would love you gone. She’s such a queeny clerical bitch.

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Anon at 9.53am
LOL🤣.
Give me a reason or an incentive to quit this blog🙄🤷‍♂️.

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This is such a positive and courageous stand. Yet there are those who would twist his words for their own devious motives.

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Pray for your priests. This next week is the most demanding week of their year, and they do it for you.:
O Jesus, Eternal Priest,
Keep Thy priests within the shelter of Thy Sacred Heart,
where none may touch them.
Keep unstained their anointed hands,
which daily touch Thy Sacred Body.
Keep unsullied their lips,
daily purpled with Thy Precious Blood.
Keep pure and unworldly their hearts,
sealed with the sublime mark of the priesthood.
Let Thy Holy Love surround them from the world’s contagion.
Bless their labors with abundant fruit,
and may the souls to whom they minister
be their joy and consolation here
and their everlasting crown hereafter.
Mary, Queen of the Clergy, pray for us:
obtain for us numerous and holy priests.
(St. Joan of Arc, FSSP)

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‘This next week is the most demanding week of their year’
Howling at this it’s so funny.
You do realize you’ve just clearly said how little demanding year round their ‘work’ is? They should try having a full time job 😱

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9:18 it’ll be tough all right trying to get to the Boiler House & places like it & then back again to parishes nationwide to “show face” at the various Easter masses & vigils. Leading a Double Life must be very time & energy depleting. Wondering how rising petrol prices don’t affect their travels.

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Yes, 10:06. And the various liturgies aren’t that many, are the same every year and rehearsed into oblivion.
Readers may like to compare this to a theatre where there are all the same daily tasks of running front of house and so on. Except you frequently have two performances daily and they rarely stay more than a few days.
The faithful won’t like this comparison because a theatre has more dressing rooms and the bar gets less of a hammering.

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Love is love. It should be celebrated as it is not hate.
Jesus said ‘follow me’
Not for Christians

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The RCC is between a rock and a hard place. The ideal of man and woman coming together. Where an LGBT couple are in love, WWJD?
When to turn a blind eye and when not to turn a blind eye? The bishops will find it regrettable that the compassionate padre has taken to a public platform to air his view.

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Not blessing the gays IS Christianity. If Fr Paddy doesn’t like it, then he isn’t a Christian – right or wrong. Get out and start your own religion Fr Paddy like Martin Luther and set your own teachings based on the biggest fantasy book ever told.

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God bless Fr Paddy, our priest denounces homosexuality and yet is camper than a float at pride, maybe he doesn’t practice it but it screams hypocrite to me

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How are so many men made to feel inadequate sexually, still think they can mask this by becoming priests? You lot are all meant to be intelligent men but you are actually clowns masqueraded in a collar and for some a harness.

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You may want to check the facts and grammar (particularly agreement) before commenting. You seem to be able to spell, which makes it all the sadder that you are commenting unrelenting nonsense.

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As Leo Varadkar advised, homophobic dogmatism is still rampant in Ireland. Pope Francis, along with the liberal cardinals he favours such as Cardinals Hollerich (as linked to above) and Marx have given a clear headline on how to read Scripture and its message of love, but lots of people here prefer to stick to stupid and backward thinking.

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@ 10:15am

Well Leonie would say that, but the fact that he managed to become Taoiseach belies that. Of course Bergo and his liberal henchmen will give their version of how to read Scripture
that doesn’t make their version right. Of course many stupid ‘forward’ thinking people agree as it suits their erroneous agenda.

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So bitter at 10:36. As the clerics on here like to say to the abuse victims of the church: ‘Get over it’.

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Pat, darling, I love you in this mood. You may say, rightly, that I can’t see you and in fact have never met you. But I can tell your mood by the comments you let through and today it’s a done-with-their-shit mood and it’s a beauty.
Because if they don’t hear how utterly bankrupt they are they have no chance of realising.
X

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@10:41am

Not bitter at all, sweet as honey, it’s just bitter people like you who become extremely bitter when others hold a contrary point of view to your erroneous views, ‘get over it’.

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10:04 Missed a trick there. You didn’t tell me I’d go to hell.
(Bitter as St Alphonsus Liguori sleeping in funny positions to try to stop himself masturbating).

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11:50 I would bet that too. Nor to a man. Sad, really. But then ‘Lets go to hell’ isn’t really a good chat up line.

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I know Mr Byrne went to (the now closed) carlow seminary, which wasn’t know for its sound doctrine: but he spent many years in formation and studied catholic moral theology. He knew what the church teaches, what was expected of him as a priest, yet he STLL CHOSE to be ordained a catholic priest. Now hes whinging about catholic teaching. So I Presume he will be leaving the catholic ministry now? Also, what arrogance to believe that gay persons want or need ‘paddys’ blessing.

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Sweetie, I long ago realised Catholicism was a scam so for over five decades have made a point of not doing what the church told me. As for where I’m going, I don’t give in to threats and as per the above will be delighted as long as there are no Catholics there.

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10.00
I wouldn’t advise such presumption and certainly, for your own sake, holding your breath. Pope Francis recently promoted (promoveatur ur amoveatur) the CDF official responsible for issuing last year’s document claiming erroneously the church can’t bless same-sex unions.

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Search on Facebook Bernard Lynch Misneach for a beautiful reflection on today’s theme. A well known Ennis priest who has done souch good in life. Not able to attach link here..

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Fr Bernard J. Lynch on Facebook:

MISNEACH

Our Love, I was told was on the wrong side of the Gospel. I believed in the Love that was forbidden, so I believed too, I should be punished. In Love, like all people, we cry to be embraced for who we are. Everyone, from the first dawning of consciousness wants life giving moments, when the heart is filled with wonder and Hope. How else can we find ultimate meaning?

The great evil is to make any of the feelings of Love sin and shame. There the church made the greatest false claims against us, and against god and the universe. God is within us all, this god we call Love. We knew this, and felt this, as we held in our arms emaciated bodies crying with fear and pain. We were trying to find with the men sick and dying with AIDS, strength never to abandon Love, never to abandon themselves. Love is never the reason for punishment, as they were told. Only men and women in their weakness, their cruelties, their hatred of themselves could ever call Love disordered or evil.

This is part of the battle for god and Love we wage forever and a day. Our weaknesses, successes and failures, are what make us fully human and more compassionate.
Love triumphs over everything and can never be corralled. Our humanity may have scars like tattoos which tell a tale of formidable struggle. These struggles are never so well expressed as when we struggle for others.

We learn again and again that in the army of Lovers, only the wounded may serve. Everyone’s life at a level is a journey for Love. Sometimes this is through fear and ignorance, through a misapprehension of how we might be good, exactly because we are trying for the Impossible Love. We are made for the Impossible Love. As friends and lovers we know that at the most profound level this restless recklessness in us is Eternal .

It is impossible to stop Love. There is no gift from Creation which matters more and gives our humanity forever more room to grow. Our generation is not finished with telling our tale of Justice and Love. Let us keep on the work of always alerting others to treasure how they experience Love. Let us imagine a day when there is nothing further in the way, and cruelty is no longer one of its false appearances. Then we will have a fully human resurrection. Happy Easter.

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No, Fr Bernard. You were told no such thing about the mutuality of this love. You were, on the contrary, told only that homosexual acts were against God’s will.

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Excellent comment at 10:13 thank you.
12:01 is another deluded apologist trying to make out the church doesn’t teach what it does, in an attempt to make it seem caring. 🫄👬👨‍❤️‍👨

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12.08
Where does the Church teach that same-sex love is wrong? Chapter and verse, please. But don’t trot out the condemnation of homosexual acts. That refers to something else, not love.

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10:44 misleading – Fr Bernard Lynch is indeed a good man who was victimised by Irish Catholic Church & lives abroad with his partner. He would not be allowed to serve in Ennis Parish but Freeloader Fitzgerald & Wanker Carey are

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Fr Barnard was victimised by the Archdiocese of New York.

He and his partner are often in Clare.

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11:16am Forgive the Pun but although Fr Bernard Lynch is openly gay – he is still far too straight to survive in Ennis Parish from what we’ve seen of what Carey & Fitzgerald were allowed to get away with for so long!!

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Good day to you. Anonymous
May i ask you what is your opinion on heterosexual couples using artificial contraceptives that are banned by the church.
Why has God made so many gay and lesbian people ?
God does not make disordered people and its an insult for the church authorities to call people disordered. When they are born gay.
A beloved member of my family cried his eyes out as a teenager as he wanted to be a normal person and instead believed he was dis ordered.
Another beloved relation committed suicide as he wad being bullied by so called normal people for being queer.
My heart bleefds.

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12:37 of all the people and entities in your comment the only one God didn’t make was the church. Which, incidentally, is totally disordered.

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I love this comment. I mean, I know you’re trolling but there’s bound to be some clown who will believe this shit and then because they’re commenting here will be assumed to be a cathbot 😂

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Some day you’re all going to find out the significance of the long sleeves (not multi colours) in Joseph’s coat and you’ll all go out of your minds.

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Our priest in west Belfast is openly living with his boyfriend.
He clearly missed or failed his moral theology course.

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Oh, is that you father?
I’m happy for him too – if he’s found happiness in another man – I’d prefer he’d stand up and be counted and stop living a life of hypocrisy.
I should also point out that this man doesn’t present as a particularly happy individual. I’ve always imagined that that is because people who live duplicitous lives are rarely happy.
That’s my armchair psychology finished for the day.

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If it’s the one I’m thinking off he doesn’t stay in the presbytery but lives in his boyfriends place.

Nice work, if you can get it.

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There are many a parochial house empty and also many that have occupants living in them that shouldn’t

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Priests are far too well known to be staying in lay peoples houses he would have been outed by now.

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Boris was socialising with colleagues and therefore not potentially spreading Covid. He is innocent, what a witch hunt.

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Trump is a non demoninatiolnal presbryterian. He is not a catholic and going by catholic truth he is living in sin as he is divorced twice and also broke his marriage vows. While he stays married to marlene he is living in sin as his marriage was not annuled.

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2:52 Going by that the only sad thing is if he was Catholic and dead he’d be canonised now.

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@2.42 pm
I don’t think so, the moment has passed. It is the terrible situation in Ukraine that people are concerned with now.

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I will not make any further comments here regarding the scandalous misuse of mr Byrnes priestly faculties.
A detailed description of Mr Byrnes abuse of the catholic rite of marriage, and the public scandal it has caused, is now sent to his ordinary, aswell as the Papal nuncio.

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3.35
No need to send to the CDF after Pope Francis’transfer of the official responsible for last year’s disastrous document on no blessings for same sex couples.
Calm down and don’t be scandalised when people use their powers of reason. Maybe you could follow their example.

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Agreed.

A queer couple privately asked me to bless them. I replied that I could bless them individually, but not as a couple. They declined, and walked away.

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Catholic clergy in Ireland bless the fishing boats but won’t bless a same sex loving couple! What kind of religion is this that fishing boats are more important than people?

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6.34

The penny’s bound to drop eventually, isn’t it? By the law of averages?

The Church will indeed bless queer couples…as individuals. As contradictory as this may seem, it makes perfect moral sense from the Church’s point of view.

Priests may not bless a same-sex relationship, since this would involve blessing homosexual acts. You are very well aware of this, so stop raising a faux stir.

Fishing vessels do not engage in homosexual acts.

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What ‘elementary logic’ is this?

Rogue priests might ‘bless’ same-sex unions (and, therefore, homosexual acts), but the Church never will, because it may not do so morally.

Incidentally, a priest has no more power to bless anyone or anything than he has to absolve sin or transform bread and wine; only God can do all these things, and more. He will not bless sin. So, even if a rogue priest were to pronounce a blessing on a same-sex union, it would be a vain, empty gesture.

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8.35
You show an abject ignorance of biblical language and theology. There you will find that to bless is indeed an action of both God and human beings.
Beginning with such a false premise your argument was never going to go anywhere.

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11.53
Your post made me smile.
I asked you a question at 8.35: ‘What “elementary logic” is this?'(In relation to my post at 7.15) Tellingly, you didn’t answer.
Biblically, a blessing is an invocation of God’s favour through human agency: it is God who blesses THROUGH the agency. This is the character of blessing throughout the Bible.That something as elementary as this should be unknown to you is … Well, perhaps the less said about that, the better.
Any priest who ‘blesses’ a gay union is invoking God’s favour on it, including its sexual expression. Which, of course, God will not grant, since he has made it irrefutably clear that homosexual acts are morally wrong.
Such a ‘blessing’ is ‘a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal’. It signifies nothing but unrequited presumption.

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This young heretic, he played one,
He played knick knack on my thumb.
With a knick knack, paddy whack,
Give a dog a bone.
This young heretic came rolling home

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Absolutely howling at the catlicks saying ‘gays’ can have loving relationships but not sex and having no idea how they look.
That approach works so well with your clergy, doesn’t it 🤣

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