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MASSIVE DROP IN NUMBER OF PRIESTS AND RELIGIOUS IN USA.

Figures from the Georgetown University’s Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) show the precipitous drop in vocations to the priesthood and religious life in the United States.

In the US during the 1970s there were nearly 161,000 religious sisters; in 2020 there were roughly 41,000 sisters. Again, in the 1970s there were approximately 55,000 priests and 11, 600 religious brothers. In 2020 that figure was 35,000 priests and 3,800 religious brothers.

PAT SAYS

Those figures from Georgetown are not surprising but certainly thought provoking.

The number of religious sisters has dropped by 120,000 in 50 years.

There are 20,000 less priests and 32,000 less religious brothers.

As Fr Des Wilson once remarked:

“Nuns in Ireland are now as scarce as the Corncrake”.

Maynooth used to boast 600 seminarians.

Now it’s 20 +

The vast majority of priests in Ireland are 65 + years old.

The dioceses of Galway and Clonfert were recently merged for all intents and purposes.

DOWN AND CONNOR

Where I live in D&C has 89 parishes.

Rumour has it that that number will reduced to 45.

There may be countries in the world where vocations are plentiful – but that’s in the Thord World.

Catholicism in the West is dying and dying quickly.

When I was ordained 46 years ago Sunday Masses were many and they were all packed.

Now many churches has a very small congregation consisting mainly of older ladies.

I never saw this day coming in Ireland.

The Catholic Religion on Ireland is disappearing like snow off a ditch.

CAUSES?

1. All the scandals?

2. The rise in anti clericalism.

3. View of the RCC as totally corrupt.

The RCC itself like to portray all of this as “bad apples” in the barrel”.

Many of the rest us us say the problem is a ROTTEN BARREL.

THE SUCCESS OF COVID VACCINES IN NORTHERN IRELAND.

Today I went to Ballymena and received my FIFTH VACCINATION.

All the vaccines I received were the best one ‘ Pfizer Biontech.

The Pfizer costs £ 16 a dose.

Someone told me the Astra Zeneca is about £ 1.50 a dose.

I have lived in the UK since I was ordained 46 years ago.

Our NHS here is wonderful.

I’ve always been so well looked after.

In the Republic of Ireland my siblings pay € 60 to see a GP and maybe another € 50 for their prescribed drugs.

Here my GP is free and my prescriptions are free.

Why would I vote for a United Ireland?

127 replies on “MASSIVE DROP IN NUMBER OF PRIESTS AND RELIGIOUS IN USA.”

I read it was €65 for a GP and €100 for A&E, and most people in the republic of Ireland also have private health insurance.

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But the insurance does not cover every medical eventuality: there can be very costly additional costs.
Many in the Republic of Ireland forego medical treatment simply because of the expense, in which case they tend to self-medicate,sometimes with disastrous results.
Life in the Republic (and, therefore, in a United Ireland) is not the shrangra-la republicans and nationalists in Northern Ireland make it out to be.
People will get a very rude awakening if ever a majority of voters in Northern Ireland vote for a united Ireland.

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Medical insurance rarely covers GP visits…. think of it as surgery insurance and its more accurate

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Yes Holy Goat. People have literally no idea how insurance works and the real cost of healthcare. Im on a treatment for arthritis which as it happens is the most expensive drug in the BNF. It costs the NHS £18,000 a year. I would have no hope of affording that privately and in the US this would cost $160,000a year. And incidentally is not covered by any health insurance I know of, for obvious reasons.

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TBH once you’ve been on arthritis meds a while you stop being frightened of side effects. Yes they could kill you but the alternative is complete immobility and having joints replaced. It’s not worked as well for me but I know someone who can play rugby again because of being on a similar drug – and his arthritis literally incapacitated him before.

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Is there not a drugs payment scheme to cap the cost of medicines to circa €120/month?

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2:42. In the UK? Yes there’s a prescription prepayment scheme, a single payment every year for as many prescriptions as you need. Some readers may not know that prescription medicines are not free, it’s £9.35 per medicine.

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4.35
Politically motivated scaremongering? Face reality, man. You lot are deluded about the economic face of a united Ireland.
Educate yourself.

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4.35 There is no comment at 9:39. The NHS gives free eye tests in certain circumstances.

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Scandals have shown the corruption of the RCC leading to active anti clericalism. More significant is the developing recognition that religion is but but one expression of humankind’s awareness of the benefits of communal cooperation, and this, despite deeply embedded contrary traits of selfishness and aggression in a significant proportion of humanity.
There is a duality of opposing forces: our striving for cooperative betterment, but also a possessive often aggressive urge to increase and secure our lot.
People are realising that religion in the form of the RCC variety, is unnecessary. They increasingly disapprove of its activities and staff, and are voting with their feet.
MMM

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‘possessive often aggressive urge to increase and secure our lot.’
I think people are increasingly aware that this is the side of your duality that religion is on, and it’s the lot of the clergy that is being increased.

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9:41 Often funded by big magpie & parasite types in local communities. No moral compass from RCC about where donations originate.

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9.38am that is crazy what you have to pay for your medication. Do you not have a drugs payment scheme card which covers you when you go over a certain amount? You should ask your chemist/doctor/hse re same.

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Mourneman and also 8.36: the international Roman echelon threw in its lot with bad forms of capitalism (code name “Americanism”) earlier in the last century so belief disappeared, from the top downwards. The remaining good bishops (whose hands have been tied) had not planned to buy into the unbelief system, and are guilty of – at worst – hoping for the best. The others, and their proxies and alternates, were eager to cynically piggy back on it. Blindsided laity were kept unalert so as not to pray, but have become emotionally bonded to centralised “sacraments”.

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The use of the word scandals in the context of RCC worldwide abuse, corruption and crime, is a misnomer. A scandal does not last 35 plus years! It is part and parcel of RCC culture; the rotten underbelly of the Church; an integral component of this culture is secrecy including covering up. Their interests, reputation, power, influence, careers and finance took, and continues to take precedence.

What else remains covered up in the RCC on the Island of Ireland?

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NI costs the UK taxpayer £15 billion a year, stagnant economy with a bloated public service. Your welcome to it Pat the south won’t be voting for a united Ireland either.

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It’s not their choice, good Friday agreement means if we up north vote for it, it happens. Expect civil war and ‘the troubles’ again.

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I think you’ll find that, in accordance with the Belfast Agreement, voters in both countries, Northern Ireland AND the Republic of Ireland, have to approve unification by referenda.

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This can only be good news.
As you said the other day Roman Catholicism is dependent on sacraments and with fewer ministers will wither on the vine.

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I think it was going to happen anyway as people became more educated but it was accelerated by the scandals and the hypocrisy. There has been a shortage of priests in the US for decades.

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NI is a backwater, I have to go there on business from time to time it’s like stepping back to Ireland in the 60s.

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Yes the republic is definitely forward looking. You can tell that by the collapse of the Roman church. 👍

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9:17am. Northern Ireland has beautiful countryside & scenery & is very friendly & welcoming as long as one is respectful & intelligent & mindful of certain locations & of past differences. It always had an excellent road infrastructure & health system, the envy of us in the South. Workers National Insurance contributions fund Health service, we get literally nothing in the South for our PRSI equivalent payment we make from wages. Didnt bother our last Pp, he was always in doctors – although he seems fit as a fiddle.

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Each village has its own sect with its church. Everywhere closes around 7, everyone knows everyone else’s business, very little commercial activity, heavily subsidised, made up jobs in the civil service to create employment, sinkhole local authority estates with massive unemployment and poverty, lads commuting to Dublin every day to work, sectarian bigotry a la Sammy and hatred of eastern Europeans, loyalist estates waiting for HMG to reopen the linen mills and shipyards so they can all have jobs again………. Your welcome to it Pat!

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12.30 & 2.45

Turkeys voting for Christmas, you pair.😅

Imagine any SANE person voting for a geo-political settlement (a united Ireland) that will lead to far lower living standards than the ones they already have; that will take many into chronic ill-health, because they cannot afford medical treatment, or to pay medical bills; that will lead to increased unemployment, etc.

Your head’s away! As they say in the ‘black North’.😕

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If Mrs Thatcher had been serious about giving papal representatives full nuncio (diplomatic) status while retaining their church job, she should have insisted the Irish hierarchies be split into two at the border, that would have focused Irish attention on what is truly essential to any unity of catholic religion (an actual spiritual side), and what isn’t (worldly convenience).

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3:40 It’s almost like you’re talking about Brexit. People were fool enough to vote for that when it was blindingly obvious it would be a disaster.

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8.14
No, Brexit isn’t a disaster, but the Northern Ireland Protocol caused one, and is continuing to cause one.
Spare me the juvenile nonsense that the Protocol was a consequence of Brexit, because it was no such thing: it was the mad result, by the British Government, of trying to keep happy republicans and nationalists (including the Irish Government) by not creating a so-called ‘hard border’ on the island of Ireland. The Protocol, which YOU people insisted upon, isn’t working, and it wiil continue to cause division and conflict as long as it remains.

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12:30pm. Amongst other things, In the RoI they have Cathbots who make up everyone else’s business to suit their own agenda & Irish civil servants who breach data protection on behalf of their clerical cronies. Plenty bigotry reserved for victims & survivors of RCC related wrong doing & those who support them. Keep it!

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9:17am. Simply, not true. We enjoy visiting NI – it is vibrant & progressive. Something for everyone. We always made very welcome – the people love to see & to chat to visitors from ROI. Be mindful & aware & know the black spots to avoid & it’s well worth it for an enjoyable break.

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This is very welcome news. They do my head in, although not as much as the bishops. I got bored of watching them rolling a stone up a hill so now I have a special punishment for the ones in here for helping priests to abuse. They have to administer a diocese and every time they mess up dealing with one priest’s misconduct another does something. It drives them mad and even God likes watching it!
If they move a priest to a parish where he’s already abused I move them to listening to the Archbishop of Canterbury denouncing their orders as invalid for eternity.

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He’s a hoot, is our Satan. 😀 We miss him up here.

‘Misunderstood’, too (as Dudley Moore said of him in one of those smart-arse Peter Cooke – Dudley Moore comedic films of the 1960s).

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Thanks Mike. I’m having a barbecue later if you want to pop round.
Not to eat, like. The CEOs of the firms responsible for global warming are doing the cooking and that meat will be raw in the middle for eternity.

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You bet! God’s out for the day, so… whaa-hey!
Casual dress? Means I could leave behind the wings, sword, and that stylised aggressive look those humanoid artists force me to wear.
C u later, alligator!

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Mike you know full well the required dress is whatever you fancy. Great you’re coming though, you can help me put up the portrait of Pat Buckley to taunt the bishops with. X

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Ireland costs a fortune to live in and the quality of life is poor. Its very bad value for money. Its one of the main reasons I live abroad. Same old same old. Any overtime or bonus and its taxed at 42% and nothing is free if you are working. Life abroad has challenges but at least the weather is good and am not dependent on our rugby team for happiness

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2:34pm That might explain why Irish Parish Councils member details frequently read like a Swiss Canton of local “influencers”. Toxic

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I thought that, under the Best and Most Humble Pope ever, the seminaries, convents and churches would be packed to the rafters.

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It is the repetition of their consistent, ingrained and determined persistence & commitment in facilitating all forms of abuse & wrong doing by the clericals & their laity that has driven away potential new vocations, helpers and mass goers. It’s not simply a matter of being a Christian & giving them a second chance, this has proved for many to be both pointless & self-damaging because they continue to be so arrogant & deviant & outright passive-aggressive in the various methods that they collude to employ when they doggedly & persistently avoid redressing victims & survivors of RCC related abuse worldwide. Toxic.

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It is encouraging to see that the number of “vocations” to the priesthood, and religious life, is sinking like a stone in quicksand. It is proof that the whole idea of such “vocations” is nonsense, otherwise it would mean that the Almighty is as fickle and inconsistent as his supposed human creations.

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It is worth noting that changes in religious denominational acceptability, founding of parishes in growing industrial cities, debates of nature-v-creation all heightened the discourse of religion in the late 19th and early 20th century. Vatican 1 also imposed certain views…. so do we witness a decline in vocations or a return to normality? If a “priestly” vocation is precious, is it not rare? And aren’t the laity better off in their faith-life by having fewer priests to abdicate their ministry to? Let’s also be honest…. there were many priests decades ago…. but weren’t many just angry, unfulfilled, addicted pen pushers who were so far removed from the joy of faith that it is almost sinful to refer to them as priests?

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Has the institutional church led the laity to believe priestly vocations are precious out
of clerical self interest? Tom Doyle talks about this, and how the priesthood was historically elevated, considered a superior calling, with ontological change a means of differentiation and celibacy adding to the clerical mystique. (Listen to zoom link). If priestly vocations are so precious and so rare, how come so many child abusers were ordained? Did God, along with formation teams, make numerous incorrect calls?

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@3.10
That’s essentially my point. The perceived drop in vocations is in reality a return to normality. There is no shortage.

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9:51pm
Normality vis-a-vis vocations to priesthood will only be determined when, what Fr. Tom Doyle calls, the heresy of clericalism, is dismantled.Clericalism is at the core of the tsunami of covering up to protect the notional elevated- holier than thou- status of the priest.

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I’ve been thinking something similar. If it was a drop in the number of men wanting to be priests that would be different. But if your religion is revealed, is dependent on a priesthood, which is dependent on your god telling men to be priests and that’s not happening, there’s something wrong.
Most likely either even without the whole thing being false it suggests God has either had enough of the church’s shit or just wants things done differently.
But it’s inconceivable that there could actually be a shortage of vocations.

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3.30
Why is it inconceivable that there could be a shortage of so-called “vocations” to the priesthood? Is it because you can’t bear to believe there are no such things? Why can’t you accept at least such a possibility?
What evidence have you that God vocates men to the priesthood? Don’t point to RC teaching, or to priests themselves for this. As Christine Keeler might reply, they would say that, wouldn’t they? (Note that accepting God himself vocates to the priesthood, you are implicitly accepting that only men are called to this state. It is all very convenient, isn’t it? The obvious justification for mysogyny?)
“Vocations” to the priesthood are in near freefall now, because the RC institution has exposed itself in such a filthy, self-degrading fashion that no one could possibly be attracted to such a mistress, such is her stench of moral corruption. And a mistress she is and would be, since these men, priests, and wannabe priests, are quite prepared to betray Jesus Christ for a dirty affair with her. And how they have betrayed him!
It is the RC institution to which these men have always been vocated; it was never to Jesus, otherwise would they have betrayed him so horribly and for so long? Something, incidentally, each and every priest continues to do.
God does not vocate anyone to this.

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Every time I pray for priestly vocations I quietly pray to my self that the Church will stop messing up the vocations God has already sent to us. I cannot do so out loud as it would rock the faith of many parishioners. Luke 16:31 is the standard by which the formators will be judged.

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4:11 I think you’ve misunderstood my own personal position! I meant that *if* you believe those things there can’t also be a shortage of vocations, the two things are mutually exclusive.
That is not what I think myself and like you say, there is only evidence at a level of religious belief, no objective evidence.

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Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results.says:

4:17pm
Not only has the Church messed up God only knows how many vocations, the Church has destroyed countless lives particularly through the scandal of hierarchical covering up which continues.

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There can’t be a shortage of vocations. They would mean God wasn’t keeping His side of the bargain. What we have is not enough young men saying “yes” to God’s invitation to be a priest. God doesn’t tell people to be priests . He asks them to be priests.

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It’s great that NI benefits from being in the UK. In the Republic you pay for schools, water and bins to be collected, for each prescription item, €100 to go to A&E, €88 per night if admitted to hospital (more of as a result of a car accident) and to see a GP. Abortions are free, though.

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11:18am In the UK, the Council Tax bill issued annually by the Local Authority provides a complete & individual breakdown of exactly where the money paid by householder goes – including the proportion allocated to schools, police & fire brigade every year. Many Irish people will not dare use their own phone to ring a fire engine if they see a fire in case they get landed with the bill for thousands. True Fact! Irish Property Tax bill does not account to customer as to where money goes & councils do not account to customers as to where fees they charge for other different services that they charge for is allocated to either. They only issue proof of payment & you are lucky to even get that sometimes. Council tax in UK includes free bin collection plus a free comprehensive collection or drop off service for bulky or for small non commercial amounts of garden rubble etc, no extra charge. UK Councils Also provide free pest control plus follow up visits to private home owners. Council house tenants in Ireland sometimes struggle to get Irish Councils to come out & deal effectively with vermin. Private householders have to pay Rentokil or similar. There is an inherent & ingrained culture of non accountability to Joe & Mary Bloggs in Catholic Ireland. Such respect is reserved only for the inner circle. At last Joe & Mary Bloggs & their kids are opening their eyes & this is reflected in changing the previous public levels of indifference & intolerance that RCC & cronies across the board rely on to execute their crap on the masses, no pun intended!

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Yes, I was amazed to learn that you have to pay if you call out the fire brigade in the RoI. People are very heavily taxed and get little in teturn and pay twice eg there is road tax but you pay tolls on the motorways, and there is a tv license but RTE also shows ads. Work that one out!

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A Burning Matter in Republic of Ireland 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥says:

12:42pm an elderly neighbour was very irate with another concerned neighbour who called emergency services when smoke coming from house when bill for fire brigade arrived & even suggested caller pay it – didn’t seem to appreciate the genuine concern or danger at all. Neighbours used to run to public phone box to call fire brigade to avoid getting bill in other cases but no public phone box now. RTE also receives huge funding from Government on top of advertising & licence fee. Triple funded!!

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In my previous diocese in SE England our churches were packed until it started opening catholic schools, then they started emptying. My parents didn’t place faith in actual sacraments per se (we would occasionally partake, at a quiet time of year). I succumbed to the craze in my 20s and meantime unfortunately, the protestant churches had become shallow and excitable as well. Church connections seem to have become a must-have designer accoutrement for politicians and professionals. My dad would say, keep your religion private – he meant, from the church.

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I have been told to visit Ireland but I can’t be arsed.
Apart from the beautiful countryside, pubs and Guinness brewery tour, what is there to see?
Any ideas welcome.
I just think, for the journey time, I may as well go to Paris…

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4iPxsEOCI
“Abuse and Cover-up in the Catholic Church” – Thomas P. Doyle
This video is a ZOOM talk given by Tom Doyle to We Are Church Ireland on 28. February 2022.
Tom Doyle is a priest, canon lawyer, addictions therapist and long-time supporter of justice and compassion for clergy sex abuse victims.
He sacrificed a rising career at the Vatican Embassy to become an outspoken advocate for church abuse victims. Since 1984, when he became involved with the issue of sexual abuse of children by Catholic clergy while serving at the Embassy, he has become an expert in the canonical and pastoral dimensions of this problem – working directly with victims, their families, accused priests, bishops, and other high-ranking Church officials.

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Dermot Farrell being highlighted as ‘acting as executive assistant to Ledwith’ 😂
Ledwith ‘had sexually abused one boy and another seminarian in the 1980s.’ 😢
Dermot Ledwith Farrell then became president of Maynooth (nepotism!)
The whole thing is rotten to the core.
Good luck Dublin 👍

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I sometimes wonder what the true figures are… so there are 26 in Maynooth…. but it used to also train priests for Scotland, Israel, Bosnia, Jo’berg, etc, etc, etc… and members of orders such as Dom Purcell also feature in the class pieces. So the big question for me is… how many are training to work in Irish Diocese – because that figure appears smaller than 26.
… and how many Ukrainian refugees can they fit into New House?

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The collapse in numbers in Maynooth from 600 to 22, is only half the story. In the days when Maynooth was full, there were other Irish major seminaries also full of sems: Clonliffe, Carlow, Thurles, Wexford, Waterford, Kilkenny, Belfast, All Hallows, and all of them have closed.

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There were two sems for overseas dioceses in Maynooth last year (one for Prague, the other was for Reykjavik). I don’t know if they are still there. There was always a smattering of overseas sems and a few for dioceses in GB, but Maynooth was always chiefly for the home mission and didn’t send many of its priests abroad.

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That puts them on even stevens with anyone from the Dominicans to the SSPX who had close to that last year in Ireland. Well it’s utterly risible. Maynooth just seems utterly toxic. Perhaps re-open All Hallows for some tasks, but otherwise farm out formation to the dioceses when the seminarians held priests struggling with clustered parishes. Some could connect to their tutors via Zoom if on the other side of the country.

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If the priests’ could keep their perverted thoughts and hands to themselves. If the vatican stopped money laundring, changing ‘their rules’ every farts end! If the church didn’t look down on poor homeless people lying in the cold of night while bishops’ and priests’ alike sit sipping the most expensive wines and brands! If the church didn’t enable vile sexual abuse on little innocent girls and boys and brush such claims under the carpet! If the church never murdered infant children and pack them into septic tanks or sell the ones left living to the highest bidder! If the church took ownership for said atrocities and lived by the way of GOD and goodness! Maybe, just maybe more people would have a little faith in them, but unfortunately the truth always raises it’s head to the light and they still have the gaul to laugh and ridicule at the very fact that they should be questioned and held by the very standards they preach!!! That is why people are hesitant to even contemplate the idea of handing over their life to them!!!

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Absolutely excellent comment…
Sadly it is absolute truth…. Something the church appears to shy away from…

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Interesting item on the rte radio 1 sarah mcinerney programme this evening witj a gay teacher. The gist of it that today a gay teacher could still be refused a teaching post in a catholic school due to its catholic ehos and it all depends on the principal of the school. I thought the schools were owned by the state and our taxes help run them. So why can this still happen today?

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The schools are owned by the people who paid into the church collections. Most of them the salt of the earth of our soceity and perhaps the poorest in money and should now have a say in how the schools are used.

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@4.12pm You sound like a very disgruntled fool don’t you? What a sad life and attitude you must have. It’s a daily comedy show on this blog to read the usual from the reject ex sems, pond life, odd balls, the dysfunctional, pervs, trolls and trailer trash. Keep posting so you can give us all a big laugh.

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6:05pm The one sounding disgruntled is you. The comment obviously hit a nerve @ 6:05.

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@6.34pm Oh it hit no nerve mate it only just made me laugh so much as does your reply. Thanks for yet another laugh.

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10:56 pm
6:13pm did not post the excellent comment from “A Survivor” @ 4:12pm.
Oh, disgruntled one, it must have hit a raw nerve considering you’re still banging on about it at 11pm! LoL.

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4:12pm arrogant & heartless shower best avoided like the Plague. The Great Fire of London sprigs to mind 🔥🔥🔥. Who’ll call the Fire Brigade this time?!

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Where is Mark Kirby now? Is he still in Holland gallivanting around with two young monastic recruits? Is he there with the blessing of Tom Deenihan and the full knowledge of the local Dutch bishop?

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He’s still in Holland, living in an attic like Ann Frank, coincidentally the names of his companions are Andrais and Francis. They attend Mass with the nuns in the convent. although Mark does not celebrate public Mass. They don’t enjoy the food its all veggie as the sisters don’t eat meat.

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Tom Deenihan is absolutely criminal for letting Kirby out with two young men. Disgusting.

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6:25pm Kirby is still faring much more favourably than those he deliberately & knowingly traumatised. Pity about him if he has to have nettle soup.

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Just wait until Deenihan receives the next complaint about Kirby. Meath will be well and truly screwed.

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7:47pm PMSL at the thought of Kirby foraging for nettles for his supper. They will have to eat plenty nettles before they flower in June.

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9:55pm They all have well & truly screwed themselves. It’s a case of “be careful what you wish for”!

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7.47 & 10.19: Nettles are wonderful! Great for insects., especially butterflies 🦋 😍 💓
And cutting off their tops in spring, putting them in bucket of water for 2/3 weeks ( very smelly so don’t splash when stirring), to use the resultant liquid provides brilliant fertiliser for all garden plants, especially vegetables. What’s not to like?
MMM

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How will he keep up the speed when trying to outrun the obsessed mother superior? Is nettle soup enough? Can Dom Kirby somehow tell her he’s not into girls?

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https://www.complicitclergy.com/news/
Aggregated news and commentary from across the web regarding cover-up of the sexual abuse scandal: Headlines;
1)Catholic’ University Students Attempt To Oust Priest For Defending Catholic Teaching.
2)Wisconsin DOJ Received More Than 200 Reports of Clergy Abuse After Year of Investigating.
3)Cover-Up Continues In Washington DC.
4) Release the Entire Red Dossier Now!
5) Vatican Refuses Entry to Unvaxxed Cardinal.

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FY1
The Tyburn Benedictine Nuns an enclosed order has been out protesting against vaccinations and at Hyde Park London so Cardinal Nichols has reported them to The Institutes of Consecrated Life and for Societies of Apostolic Life.
So they will likely get an Apostolic Visitation.

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5 is made up by Church Militant. Cardinal Burke allegedly barred from a Vatican Congregation over his expired COVID recovery cert. It just isn’t true, like many things Gary Voris claims.

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This is very interesting and it exposes the RCC myth of priests being called to the priesthood by God. What has happened? Has God stopped calling? More likely that many who were inclined to join the RCC priesthood saw how the power of the church has waned and also saw that they would be exposed if they behaved in the ways of priests of old. Sadly many incumbent priests don’t see that and are holding on to a relic of yesteryear, thinking that they are untouchable. Ontologically changed my arse. Either that or they just don’t give a damn

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Some priests joined the priesthood to please their mothers and the family who had priests were held in high esteem. One son inherits the farm another son becomes a professional a banker or lawyer and then pne became a priest. Some familes may habe two or three priests and a nun in a family. Such a family held great power in the state.

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8:40pm. Some of their arrogant descendants think this still applies & conveniently overlook that times have changed & that the peasants now have rights of reply!

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Vocations will not happen if people do not know what they are being called to The ones who do not know and still sign up are joining a three ring circus.

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11:00pm
You’ve given me a good laugh this morning! I’m sorry for your trouble.
Live the gospel, like a good man.

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