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“JAP JOE” O’LEARY

JAP JOE’S BIO

Joseph Stephen O’Leary is an Irish Roman Catholic theologian. Born in Cork, 1949, he studied literature and theology at Maynooth College (BA 1969; DD 1976). He also studied at the Gregorian University, Rome (1972-3) and in Paris (1977–79). Ordained for the Diocese of Cork and Ross in 1973, he was a chaplain at University College Cork (1980–81). He taught theology at the University of Notre Dame (1981–82) and Duquesne University (1982–83) before moving to Japan in August, 1983. He worked as a researcher at the Nanzan Institute for Religion and Culture, Nanzan University, Nagoya (1985–86), where he later held the Roche Chair for Interreligious Research (2015–16). He taught in the Faculty of Letters at Sophia University, Tokyo, from 1988 to 2015.

Dear Jap Joe,

It is obvious from your little letter to the ACP that you do not like this blog or its author.

Since finding that out I cannot sleep at night.

Having your approval of me is the most important thing in my life – even more important that having God’s approval.

Receiving your disapproval of me felt worse than being, apparently, automatically excommunicated, on the occasion of being raised to the Fullness of the Priesthood on May 19th 1998.

I have never fully understood “automatic excommunication”. Is it a kind of canonical masturbation?

Not that you would know anything about such matters Jap Joe.

A QUESTION JAP JOE

You were ordained a priest in 1973 – three years before I was ordained.

But you seem to have spent all you life travelling the world looking into philosophical conundrums.

You were ordained to be a shepherd and a pastor after the mind and style of the Chief Shepherd and Pastor Jesus Christ.

Now I have searched the New Testament and I can’t find the words:

Go out to the whole world and philosophise to all men and women”.

“Go and baptise all men in the name of the Heidegger, the Dumoulin and the Budda“.

O Joe!

You went out to do good and you did well πŸ˜€

Decades as a parish dodger and desk priest

Decades of travelling the globe in academic irrelevance and luxury.

All making you feel you can judge me.

I’m lots of things Jap Joe, but unlike you I have the smell of the sheep about me.

AND AS FOR IRISH EPISCOPAL AND ACP REPRIMANDS?

Jap Joe, in my upstairs toilet the door opposite where I preside is a blank surface.

It’s waiting for a Bull of Excommunication in LATIN to be pinned to it.

An Irish Episcopal or ACP Reprimand would be pinned at a lower level.

I have come up with a great use for your letter to the ACP but I need you to resend it after you’ve printed it on softer paper.

God Bless Jap Joe.

Your brother priest

+ Patrick Buckley

Episcopus apud Larnensis

212 replies on ““JAP JOE” DOES NOT LIKE THIS BLOG πŸ˜€”

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ One of the best reads from Pat in a long time! You can tie them in knots Pat! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Could you post views in different countries for last blog please? Much appreciated.

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What did the good people of Cork and Ross gain from their funding of Joe’s lengthy education and then his desk priest life in Japan?

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12:00
The Catholics who contributed (You needn’t worry.) as Catholic know that theirs is a universal understanding of church.

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The Catholics who contributed as Catholic?
You mean some contributed as Jew, Christian or Hindu?

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He was selected and sponsored as a candidate for diocesan priesthood in Cork and Ross. Not to be an English teacher in Japan.

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1pm Universal Globetrotters & Cover Up Merchants. 🀣🀣🀣

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3.20 and 3.23
As a Catholic priest he is part of a universal faith community. Inform yourself about the Irish missionary spirit.

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For years, Joe’s writings have been illuminating and impressive. His endorsing of RN comes as a major surprise and is one instance of poor judgement in an otherwise impeccable career. Even Homer nods.

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12.43
Have a look at his blog posts!
Do your own prΓ©cis!
Indolence and sloth are deadening and deadly sinful.

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https://www.amazon.com/Joysis-Crisis-Rereading-James-Theomasochistically/dp/B09KDYM542?asin=B09KDYM542&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1 β€œJoysis Crisis compellingly documents how Joyce’s revolution of the word β€˜wrestles with reality itself,’ resulting in truth-telling about the divine and the human. In judicious, enlightening readings spanning Dubliners to Finnegans Wake, Joseph S. O’Leary argues that Joyce’s texts stage a crisis that is both binding and freeing: β€˜an event in writing and language, but also a religious event, a sexual event, and a collective crisis of his city and nation, or of European civilization.’ Joyce seeks through his art to grasp the ungraspable world, β€˜a micro and a macrocosm ineluctably constructed upon the incertitude of the void,’ to reveal the real. His art is a labor of transformation and a labor of redemption, sounding the depths of existence, revealing the spectrum of suffering humanity, transmuting that suffering through agonistic yet redemptive writing, and translating historical material into something rich and strange: a visionary aesthetic labor that is β€˜a parable of the eschatological transformation that religions yearn for.’”
β€” Ellen Carol Jones

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4.05
You are petulant, aren’t you? As well as being unable to answer my simple request. πŸ˜•

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I just returned from a trip to Chappell Texas I attended mass at St Annes Catholic Church Chappell Texas.This is a mega church run by 3 Priests and 5 Deacons.I could not help but think perhaps this is the future of the Church in Europe.Mass was read in English and Spanish Confessions were celebrated in public with each person confessing their sins in silence.If the church in Ireland adopted this practice perhaps the present group of Bishops and Priests would have less time to play politics with their vocations.Do we really need a church at every corner with many of its priests and deacons mired in sexual and financial scandal and the Faithful shopping around to find the SHORTEST mass and old time priests looking with nostalgia at the good old days following the monkeys code hear no evil see no evil and tell no evil

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Smart alec answer. I wouldn’t mind hearing your confession. The original post said that people confess in silence but publicly. Is this a performance whereby they go up to a priest, say nothing and apparently get absolved (though it will be invalid if it is as I’ve described).

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10.52
What was it Augustine said about thoughts, and shouting to God?
Vocal confession is totally unnecessary, especially to a priest. Thought-confession is, however, essential, for how can one repent (turn away from) what one will not admit to oneself?
This is going over your head, isn’t it Father?

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10.52, your arrogance is breathtaking.
NO sincere confession is invalid in God’s eyes, however it is expressed.
Who the hell cares what you believe, priest?

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9:25am as in β€œforgive me for what I have done and in what I have failed to do” – the latter part refers to those complicit in RCC wrongdoing.

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This is an old statement from Joe. Somehow I don’t think Joe appreciated the turn that RN’s YouTube channel took after RN met with you. πŸ˜‚

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Well, all I can really object to in your remarks is the word ‘Jap’, which not even the most insensitive expats here would ever use. It is generally regarded as racist. I am running out to celebrate the Eucharist — for yes, Tokyo people have souls. I send you my sermon with best Easter prayers anad a plea that your would imitate the courtesy , tact, tolerance, and human understanding that prevail in this wonderful country:
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β€˜Do not doubt but believe’ (John 20:27) is perhaps a poor translation of β€˜mΓͺ ginou apistos alla pistos,’ literally, β€˜do not be unbelieving but believing.’ Pistis means faith, but with a wide range of meaning, connoting faithfulness and trust.
Nietzsche mocked Jesus’s demand for faith as a sign of weakness. Countless other thinkers and writers indulge the same dismissiveness, and they enjoy a huge, often uncritical popularity among those who credit them with sophistication and wisdom.
But Jesus’s word searches the human heart far more deeply than even the canniest cynicism can.
To be sure nihilistic utterances such as those of Emile Cioran or Samuel Beckett can shake our hearts much in the way that Job’s complaints do. But God’s reply to Job has the same upshot as Jesus’s to Thomas: β€˜Do you need to be fixated in an attitude of scepticism and pessimism, which you call realism? Must you forever sulk on your dungheap? Must you forever shut your ears to a voice that tells of the glory of creation, the beauty and nobility of your fellow-humans, the immortal concerns of truth and justice inscribed in your conscience?’
Faith dwells respectfully on these realities and does not wilfully cut them down to size as an illusionary lure. Fidelity to the true nature of the world and of life is not served if we refuse to celebrate the joyful and glorious as well as the sorrowful mysteries.
But of course the message of Easter is much more than fatuous advice to β€˜look on the bright side.’
β€˜We have seen the Lord.’ It is fully two thousand years since the apostolic witnesses uttered these words. Why do those words still have the power to convince?
To β€˜see the Lord’ for Mary Magdalen, Peter, John, Thomas, and the others was not a matter of registering a curious, indeed astonishing fact. Rather it was the discovery of a new dimension of reality.
Resurrection means liberation. It is symbolized by the freedom to pass through closed doors, by chains falling off (Acts 12:7), prison gates flung open (12:10). It is enacted in an outpouring of spiritual gifts, in miracles of healing, in a new capacity for mutual love and sharing (Acts 2:44), and in an unbeatable boldness that casts out fear.
It is because people have tuned into this reality over and over again throughout historyβ€”on hospital beds, in silent prayer, in heroic resistance, in ventures of creative charity that bear abundant fruitβ€”that the message, β€˜we have seen the Lord,’ rings deep and true.
A hospital chaplain said: β€˜I have no trouble believing in the resurrection, because I have seen it so often.’
Taking heart from all these testimonies, let us shake off the penchant to negative thinking, to needless moroseness and melancholy. Let us enlarge heart and mind in believing trust, quietly affirming every day: β€˜He is risen from the dead, and he is Lord.’
Then our speech will no longer be a constant stream of moaning and groaning, expletives and pejoratives that throw the gifts of the Creator back in his face. Instead our favoured exclamation will be: β€˜Alleluia, alleluia.’

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@1.18 am

Must you go on so!!!!!!

Stop picking on Bishop Pat, ie Jap Joe, what on earth do you think foreigners call the Brits, the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh?????

Stop being such a β€˜Little Goody Two Shoes’. You obviously don’t get the humour on the blog.

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1.18am. Is that you, Joe? Your sermon is as over-written and as faux-profound as the ones Micheal Ledwith used to give in Maynooth.

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1.18
What a load of pretentious, surreal nonsense!
One statement of yours in particular struck me: fidelity to the ‘true’ nature of the world. What is that? I ask because the meaning is as fixed as as movable feast.
Your Pollyanna thoughts remind me of a priest’s gross insensitivity when he said, in a springtime once during which I was suffering with clinical depression and was suicidal, that it was great to be alive! He knew my suffering, because I had confided in him.
The ‘true’ nature of the world is not a fixed variable, ironically, because its meaning depends on whom is being asked.
By the way, don’t take that stuff about Job too seriously.

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From the biblical point of view, the true nature of the world is that is God’s good creation.

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4.41

You’ve confirmed my point, that the true nature of the world is entirely relative. The Bible is just another point of view (less persuasive than mine, it must be said), since β€˜God’s good creation’ is frequently, perhaps mostly, anything but that pious hyperbole.

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1.18
Genuinely, an uplifting homily putting the aetheistic smug into context. I weep when I contrast this sermon with what I heard at Mass today: something about faith not being the same as superstition, illustrated by a conversation in a bookie’s shop at the placing of a bet.

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Given the articulate elegance in some of your recent communications to brother Bishops, do you not think you would retain and build upon the tentative understanding and respect that perhaps the majority hold you had you responded to Fr Joseph in a similar vein? You might be inclined to say that you don’t care for them and their respect either but perhaps if you ever muse why your pastoral reach has not been more widely embraced, you would I suggest, be advised to address this petty sarcasm, as well as the ad hominem attacks. Also one moment you are embracing an interfaith perspective and next you are slighting it, presumably because it suits your present course of attack! You clearly have a great command of English when you choose to exercise it and have a potential much wider ministry and people who would like to look towards you but are left questioning β€œWho Is The Real +Pat Buckley…gracious but firm and fair…or … vindictive bitter and just as much a small man as you accuse +Cahal Daly R.I.P.? Retain your rightful moral highground +Pat and be the Pastor you are meant to be! Then….and only then…. would I suggest Fr Richard Geoghegan and anyone else, might look towards Larne.

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I respect your comment.

There are two sides to me.

The passionate pastor side of saying YES to thousands over 46 years.

The challenging side going after the modern day Pharisees.

We see these two sides in the Lord.

I am indeed a sinner. But Jesus sets the precedent for both sides.

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+Pat 09:06
Thing is, in trying to discern the real Jesus we have to try and see beyond the condition of the Gospel writers, who at least to some extent, have fashioned Jesus in their image or to suit their cultural expectations, agenda or cause. An overview of all the canonical Gospels as well as non canonical material, especially, I would suggest, The Gospel Of Thomas is an essential base but also the Jesus that lives in our hearts….and we have to constantly be awake and aware that we do not overly condition Jesus with our own prejudices and to paraphrase Fr Faber, a favourite of yours +Pat? I believe? “magnify His strictness
With a zeal He will not own”

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At 9.06, that was a very good comment, Pat.
Yes, Jesus, too, had both those sides. You are absolutely correct.
Take no notice at all of your detractors. They don’t know any better.

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8.00
Why are you sermonising buffoons so god-awfully longwinded when moralising to others? Is this what a self-perceived, pleasant sense of moral superiority brings out in you all, pretentious verbosity?

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Another desk priest who should be running a parish in Dublin.

Lay people can be canon lawyers.

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Individual bishops should never, ever be allowed to complain about priest shortages if they have desk priests who should be redeployed to parishes.

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9:13am clericals wouldn’t trust the lay canon lawyers entirely to keep things stum or under the lid. Control is key. They wouldn’t want another Mary McAleese on the loose into their goings on & cover ups.

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No doubt Jap Joe has a team of moneyed social influencers behind him. Friends with benefits. It’s only the elderly and vulnerable mass goers that these snobs still fooling, anyone under pension age is attending mass because family jobs or businesses benefit from maintaining church relations. No doubt the odd admiring secret partner to be found in pews here and there. Plenty more Yvonne’s & Carole’s, out there & likely even more Finbarrs & Flannans picked up in the Boiler House & similar Shibeens.

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Jap Joe appears to be yet another spoilt and overprivileged cleric. Pastoral care my arse, RCC only care for their own interests all the time & every time. Yet another Jerry Carey type. Maybe that’s where he is with globe trotter Jap Joe??

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Lazy parish dodging desk pilot without a clue as to the workings of the real world Where is his clerical garb? Where does his authority come from? Who is he to judge? His most interesting comment is that you are out of control Pat, out of whose control I wonder, Phonsies? No mention of Rawhide and Phonsie either. A hot air merchant, deny him the oxygen of the blog Pat.

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Good comment. Ignore this self important twat. Useless lick arse for the bishops.
The world is full of his type,achieving damn all only their own comfort.
Real pastors like Pat will prevail.

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Top marks Pat. This post is hilarious!!

My first thought is how do the Japanese understand the Cork accent? Most Irish people don’t, cant see how a crowd in the Far East are managing. ”Jeeesus arrived at Canaan, Boy, then performed a meeeeracle, Boy”. ”Satan was a langer, Boy” etc. It must have made for some serious linguistic conundrums and one wonders how much wisdom the Japanese got from the Cute Hoor Cleric. Then again this is the race that still denies carrying out any atrocities in Manchuria during WWII so a Catholic priest is probably right at home. Hope he enjoyed Limerick spanking de Rebels in that over priced white elephant in Blackrock that the rest of us have to pay for.

It ends with him calling for a joint condemnation letter about Pat and his blog. You should hope they do that Pat because your viewership will be through the roof – the minute clerics complain about anything we all know its a good thing:-)

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When did Joe, the ACP, or the ‘good priests’ of Ireland last issue a firm and detailed statement of reprimand to the Irish Hierarchy for covering up, and continuing to cover up, abuse, corruption and criminality, in the Irish Catholic Church. That is the obscene scandal-covering up by Bishops for colleagues in the priesthood.

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Why does someone like Joe become a priest? Is it a route for a bright boy from a poor background to gain an extended education and soft life as an academic, thanks to equally poor basket fillers? Teaching English literature in Japan is a most curious priestly calling.

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If there is such a shortage of vocations why are not all these Jap Joes recalled to serve in Irish parishes. This is an affront to Irish heritage & high time for these Irish born middle class desk priests to serve the parishes that paid for their education. It would be interesting to do a census of Jap Joe types world wide & one wonders why the Irish RCC have not put this into effect to date?? Is this More moving & hiding clergy in far flung locations & why?? Why is Irish RCC unwilling to tap into this resource of experienced clergy to man Irish parishes. Is it a lifestyle choice that more privileged clergy are accommodated to pursue at their leisure overseas, another version of the Irish priests like Fitzgerald & others in Clare who summoned their bully locals to ensure priest was not moved. It says something when these priests needs are put way above the needs of ordinary parishioners.

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I wonder if Joe says Mass in public? A number of the priest lecturers in Maynooth used to get very nervous on the rare occasions when they said Mass in public. Some said Mass rarely, if at all.
On one occasion, Matt O’Donnell was asked to say the Thursday Folk Mass in Junior Oratory. He got completely befuddled, said the Apostle’s Creed (!) despite it being a weekday, and froze on the spot during the final hymn. All the verses had been sung and he still stood there, so the cantors started the hymn again. Eventually the Junior Dean leaned over and told Matto that it was time to leave the sanctuary.

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This is the most bizarre thing I have ever read. You would think that saying mass was a basic thing that a priest would do and certainly would be able to do.
If you have a priest who can’t say mass he should certainly be shown the door.
Out here in the real world that is what happens when you can’t do the most basic functions of your job.

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In Maynooth the students responsible for liturgy in a given week had the task of inviting a member of staff to say the Thursday evening Mass in the respective oratories of the college. It was light duties for the priest because they didn’t have to preach (one of the IV Divinity deacons preached). Most of the priests were glad to be asked, however, when I invited Mgr Paddy Corish, (the celebrated historian), he declined, saying, β€œwe get our dinner in the pros ref at that time”.

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3:53, there’s Fr. A who became bishop. There’s Fr. B who also became bishop. There’s Fr. C who surprisingly has not become bishop. A humorous fellow, who enjoys a glass of brandy. He can spin a good yarn. I think his time in the desert gave him a good grounding.

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@9.39 am
Sorry I started laughing when you said that someone had to tell him that it was time to leave the sanctuary.

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When Fr Corcoran was ordained in 2004, Bishop Smith of Meath hailed him as an example of the vocations boom in Meath. 18 years later, Padraig has found his true vocation.

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Let’s wish him every happiness. At least he is authentic and not living a double life.

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He was as straight as a die in Maynooth and, as such, stood out like a sore thumb. He played on the NUI Maynooth Gaelic team. In the old days and until the 80s, that was par for the course, but is unheard of among the current crop of fey, gin-drinking fops.

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Joe opines from Tokyo that the Irish RC bishops should issue a β€œfirm and detailed reprimand” of Bishop Pat. Who does Joe think he is, why does he think that they have jurisdiction over Pat, and why doesn’t he demand a firm and detailed reprimand of the likes of Abbot Purcell, McCamley, Rory, the ex-PP of Pomeroy, the ex-CC of Dungannon, the Killaloe onanist, Ger, and the priests without number who have done appaling abuse, and their episcopal enablers?

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It’s the idea that the reprimand would have any effect on Pat Buckley beyond making him publish it here and make fun of them. 🀣
Another expert in humanity without a clue…

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I think I’m turning Japanese πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ I think I’m turning Japanese πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅says:

Why? Has he turned Japanese now?

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+Pat. I woke up this morning feeling miserable but having read your blog I am now crying with laughter. It is a masterpiece especially the last few paragraphs .You made my day and I thank you.πŸ’—πŸ‘

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+Pat, it is interesting the ACP did not issue a condemnation of the deceased Redemptorist Fr Flannery a priest who had an unhealthy interest in young girls. This priest was disciplined by a Decree. But we now have to listen to the nonsense of the persecuted profit β€” his brother Tony Flannery.
It is of further interest that Fr O’Leary makes no reference to the many scandals that have been exposed by this blog, Silverstream Priory, Mount Melleray Abbey, Fr Flannery (deceased), this Grindr usage by seminarians at Maynooth…

WILL PUBLISH LINK AS A BLOG TOMPRROE

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Tony Flannery is usually described as being “silenced” by the Vatican. He never shuts up and is never off the media πŸ€£πŸ€”

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12:14pm why aren’t these priest guys that are sex offenders tagged by the law?? Poor people in council estates are tagged & Guards appear if they walk up the road & they are not violent or child abusers. Hard for them in front of their kids & friends but they have to suck it up because they don’t have powerful connections.

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I will make a reference to them now: all the scandals involve adults, confirming that child sexual abuse has been nonexistent among clergy in recent years. Also the scandals are basically pharisaic scandals, vamped up by the gang here who are up to the same behavior themselves and think nothing of it (as their casual allusions to seamier aspects of gay culture show). Lastly, I think that our Savior was generally more friendly toward sodomites like the Centurion than to salemites who were in a permanent state of being scandalized. Pat Buckley is all over the place in his blunderbuss outrage and outage, sometimes calling for the strictest application of canon law, at other times denouncing it as an oppression he himself has courageously cast off; sometimes pouncing on priests for the crime of compromising albeit sexless friendship, at other times advising priests that they are doing well in maintaining a mature, discreet friendship with their boyfriends; sometimes denouncing the clergy for misogyny, at other times indulging in the vilest forms of it himself; sometimes deploring that priests are not stepping up to the plate to shore up a failing church, at other times calling for the extirpation of that church root and branch, in tones of hatred unmatched by Voltaire (who has a wonderful tribute to a good priest in his Dictionnaire philosophique) or Nietzsche (who lauds Montalembert’s Monks of the West so warmly); sometimes celebrating the rights and freedoms of his gay and lesbian brothers and sisters, at other times opportunistically exploiting a wide variety of homophobic tropes; sometimes lending support to oppressed and afflicted people, at other times pushing his victims to the brink of suicide. The poison in this blog emanates from the contradictions of its author which he seems quite unable to sort out. I do not deny that the church can be very confusing and that he has been subjected to its most confusing aspects. But it seems that from the start he was a source of aggressive and confusing behaviour himself. I once had a friendly chat with Bishop Cathal Daly in the time of Paul VI and the topic was the difficulty of remaining in touch or getting in touch with pastoral realities if one was an academic clergyman. I found him a sincere and good man and am shocked at the way he is pursued so viciously and vindictively on this blog. Pat’s motto could well be: ‘All is not lost, the unconquerable will, and study of revenge, immortal hate, and the courage never to submit or yield.’ The sort of thing that gave us the Troubles in NI. JOL

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‘confirming that child sexual abuse has been nonexistent among clergy in recent years.’
Once again proof that clerics/cathbots don’t understand the nature of CSA and how it becomes known.
Because opportunities to show off how right they think they are and make themselves look stupid are like catnip to them.

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What a sickening response from Joe O’Leary at 12:36. It both spits in the face of victims of adult sexual misconduct by clergy and superiors, and for the cherry on top, trots out the tired old antisemitic trope of β€œpharisaism”. Joe has not done himself a kind service by posting this today.

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Pharisaism is no more antisemitic than deism is anti France or Toryism is anti English. You are confusing categories.

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The centurion was not a sodomite. Such evidence to the contrary has been ideologically over-stretched to the point of risibility.

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12:36
All the scandals mentioned on this blog involving adults confirms nothing about child sexual abuse existence or non-existence among clergy in recent years. What does, ” the church can be very confusing” supposed to mean? Is it a euphemism for abusive, corruption or criminality? Cases of abuse remain covered up. Whether the commentator found Bishop Cathal Daly a sincere and good man following one conversation with him is a moot point. Did Bishop Daly cover up CSA? Covering up abuse was and remains a pastoral reality.

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At the same time Daly sacked me he gave Brendan Smyth faculties for the diocese.

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Daly was the go between the Irish Bishops and the Norbertine Order on Brendan Smyth

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@12.36 pm
Must you go on so!
You do realise most readers just speed read through long essays.

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All is quite in the realm of Stephen Wilson and Ryan McAleer. Eamon has them on tight supervision meaning they both have a Designated Liaison Person.

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That is nowhere near good enough. They should have been dismissed, the pair of them.
Besides, who in their right mind would rest assured that a member of a globally discredited church hierarchy had everything in hand?

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In the case of the above, you will see the Rev. Dr. return after Postgraduate studies in Europe to either an appointment to desk-priest status for a high office, or a role lecturing in the field of religious education, I would imagine. For him, it is a case of much needed prayer as he rediscerns. Good luck and God bless to the soon-to-be ordinand also. Both require our prayers.

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Stephen Wilson very happily preached the gospel in Ennis this afternoon and went half way down the cathedral to distribute holy communion alongside Malachy Thompson. A man needing a coverup versus a man who coverups…

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The ACP was as much use as a ball of blue when it came to defending Fr Richard Geoghegan from Phonsie’s illegal and immoral act of pressurising Richard to apply for liacisation. There was no freedom of choice there, and if Phonsie really believed Richard was unwell, he shpuld have waited until he wasbetter before asking Richard to make such a life changing choice.
Joe O’Leary shpuld aim his barbs at Phonsie, not Pat.
Incidentally, why was Joe filling a lay person’s job of being a lecturer? He deprived a lay academic of a job, simply because Joe was obviously unsuited to parish work and couldn’t be found a post in C&R, but he clung on to priesthood as a badge. He wasn’t even teaching theology (though maybe it’s a good thing tbat he wasn’t).

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12.24
There’s no such thing as a sense of entitlement to a particular employment based on one’s standing on the clergy/laity spectrum. In the real world, the criteria involve aptitude, qualifications and experience.

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12.24
There’s no such thing as a sense of entitlement to a particular employment based on one’s standing on the clergy/laity spectrum. In the real world, the criteria involve aptitude, qualifications and experience.
Why are you assuming a role reserved for an adult?

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The good thing about the priest shortage is that the parish dodgers on the Maynooth staff are gradually being replaced by lay lecturers. Though few of the Maynooth priests could survive in a parish. Imagine Paddy Hannon or Enda McDonagh as a PP?
Joe Duffy’s only friend, Mgr Brendan Devlin, asked to be put in a parish in his native Derry diocese when he retired as Professor of French in Maynooth University. Brendan hadn’t served a day in a parish. He lasted six months, before retiring back to live in the college.

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7.19 Tommy O Connor left the priesthood without the bother of having to leave !!!!!!!! But left the priesthood he managed.

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Is that the historian priest? Still on the staff of Maynooth University? In the 70s there was a famous case that went all the way to the Dublin High Court, which agreed with St Patrick’s College that priests on the staff (even on the NUI side) could be sacked by the college if they left the priesthood.

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How much did Thomas O’Connor cost the Catholics of Meath, who funded his BA, BD, STL, DEA & PhD, and got no parish service in return.

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What possible good does Jap Joe believe a reprimand will do? He doesn’t get it, does he?
The RC priesthood, especially its episcopate, is, at best, a laughing stock across the world and, at worst, held in deep and utter contempt. Such a reprimand would be a howler.
Jap Joe, you pretentious old man, fewer and fewer these days give a damn about you, and your sort. Any moral authority you believed you had is now dissipating in the winds of sexual scandal you people brought on yourselves. You deserve everything you get, and a very great deal more.
Here’s enjoying the spectacle of your institution’s demise. πŸ˜€

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It’s been a while since I’ve seen any online contribution from J*p Joe. He is insufferable in his pride regarding his academic achievements. I really hope someone draws his attention to this post.

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1.42
Jealousy and begrudgery your name is Irish.
Iteland, Mother Ireland, you’re rearing them still.

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Pat what do you think Archbishop Eamon Martin has in mind for his Belgian protΓ©gΓ©?
Perhaps a move to Rome?

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2.16 Only Kindness matters…. All round ( excepting criminal conviction) ( And where authentic).

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3:46pm They having the Ordination today. Big Get Together πŸ€£πŸ‘ I wonder if they will tell Antun today or leave it until Monday morning!

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Joe O’Leary thinks that clergy sexual misconduct with adults is no big deal and a β€œpharisaic scandal”. This, my friends, is a perfect illustration of the mindset of the Irish hierarchy and why they have moved to ignore, conceal, cover-up, and shut down misconduct. Money-grubbing corporations seem to have more a moral compass on these sorts of issues, as the Gers, Kirbys, Purcells in that context would be immediately dismissed for only a fraction of the behaviour they displayed as clerics and superiors/pastors.

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I am not one to profer erroneous theology; there is nothing β€œ pseudo” about your orders at all in terms of RCC teachings; what galls them is you are valid but illicit/ unlawful…. In their fear that’s why The Law If the Church excommunicated you; Joe O Leary as a teacher of theology ( as I understand he was/is) is out of step. Like Rahner( a great theologian), he is clearly a great gossip ( Rahner Diary on the Council) !

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Roppongi Hills…… incredible……..no words for the hedonism of virtue to be found there….. have you been ? Not a place of Francis Xavier interest I’d presume….

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Since 8.20am I have observed, a quite remarkable few lines from β€œ a scholar .” Quite some time since two lines as his opener has been so denigrating/ derisory of Irish Clergy…..disgorged and traduced are an interesting word play on his subject…… the Fourth Divine concert was stopped in Maynooth in my time because of disgorging and traducing of the staff by talented and motivated students, particularly the now Father Pat O Hagan who had the measure of what he was dealing with ( a good man). Perhaps the context of Joe O Leary in friendship terms with Paul Taylor and his β€œ Roman Journey Overlap” with His Disgrace Dermot Martin might give context to his Jesuitical Medieval advocation of reprimand and censure by The Priest Union of Ireland ( infiltrated by the Irish Episcopal Conference in the person of a particular priest) might give context to his β€œ remarkable β€œ contribution to the power and global distribution of Bishop Buckleys Blog and platform in addressing the corruption of Waterford β€œ and pretty much” every Irish ecclesiastical dispensation. A shame on your learning Joesph O Leary. Do you know any Horie families in Tokyo? Bill Mulvihill

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1969 to 1977 in Maynooth worthy of an Anthropological study….. and in direct mirror image to what was happening in general Irish society. It would be fascinating. I presume that in those years any straight guy just simply quit Maynooth. Tom Fee on one Sunday morning visited Top Mary’s because some many were missing from Sunday Mass…. He got no pleasure from finding his students in bed with their girlfriends!!! Refreshing nowadays! Never O Leary πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ”₯

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7.23 Tom Fee and Paddy Campbel ( RIP….wrecked 3 parishes in the words of Turlough of Togher !!!!!! ) Say no more….of so much should be said on from the Court steps……Ardee Solicitors!!!!

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Is the ACP website the oldest looking website in Ireland? It looks like something from the earliest days of the internet and it is very hard to navigate.

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Shinjuku…. I know it’s yuppie…. but the very best of hours I spent there…. Beginning with an outdoor film!!!!! The company I fell in with never guessed what I was… and I never told them.,.. it was marvellous!!

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6.04: William, as a priest of the institution which you now despise, you sure got to visit some very faraway places, Australia, Japan, and many European countries…All paid for by the “sheep” of God, the good peopke of the parishes where you worked. The “sherp” ate very useful..You must have had a good salary on the side!! And with all those Down Under Art stories….MONEY is beautiful, isn’t it William?

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7.20 Money Sir is the energy for change. Where mine came or comes from is as much your business as mine as how you proceed. Capito ? Never used a cent/penny that was not mine. Any questions… I have a few in reserve myself for the regulator!

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The Japanese as a torture in the WW would strap a metal casing enclosing a rat to the sternum of their captured soldier ( British sometimes), upon securing the device they lifted the fourth side enabling the starving rat to proceed to knaw through the sternum…. They also used chilli where others used a red hot poker on Edward II ( the screams heard throughout the kingdom). Lovely people….. I suspect Joe might administer same to Pat for his own protection ( not Pats!!!!!!).

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Emperor Hirohito should have been executed for war crimes. But General Douglas MacArthur thought Japan would otherwise have been ungovernable. Prime Minister Tojo wasn’t so luckyl
It was morally right and absolute that such a culturally cruel people should have suffered two atomic explosions.

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The UK national memorial to the Far East Prisoners of War is in a Catholic church in the Diocese of East Anglia. The nukes were the only way to knock out Japan and the country richly deserved it.

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No influence of Christianity to temper the cruelty, you see. They had the same attitudes as the ancient Romans prior to Christianity.

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9.27 must hold the record on this blog for the most immoral and most un-Christian comment and the one most to be called out and deplored. The vile attempt to justify Nagasaki and Hiroshima ought to be reported to the authorities of the country of location of the IP address.

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7.25 I don’t like lack of character attacking strength of character with institutional backdrop ( Irish bishops or ACP ) as the battering ram. Pat Buckley is the man here. Nothing of Gender or Sexuality as Joe of Japan might insite !!!!! Spelling as I decide ! Joe of Japan like his kind is a coward….Bishop Buckley found him out!!

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I am also mystified. I have never met Abp Dermot Martin, I have no idea who Mulvehill is. JOL

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Pat,
Talk amongst clergy (including inner circle) is rife after your recent revelations in Archdiocese of Armagh. You have cast a spotlight into corners they hoped you’d never look. God bless your work, Bishop Pat.

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Many clergy have been subject to abusive and un just treatment at the hands of unanswerable superiors over the years. However there are established processes in place to vindicate the rights of clerics (not accused or guilty of any particular charge). The ACP did a great disservice to that Waterford priest recently if he felt pressured into signing the licasisation petition. The most obvious advice would be to sign nothing! In fact that can be appealed in that instance, if there is no crime involved.
But leaving that aside, very often this blog assists in uncovering those things that need to be uncovered as people feel they have no where else to turn, or no expectation of justice.
A priest mentioned on the blog before, who deliberately concealed the child abuse crimes of (the former FR) Vincent Mercer OP for over 30 years, has never had to answer for his actions. Only on this blog has his misdeeds been cast into the light. He is now, it seems, coming close to going beyond the reach of earthy justice: I can only hope that the heavenly judge, from whom no secrets are hid, will impose a just sentence on him.

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8.12 Shares that with Walter Kasper and his definitive work: Neil Dargan had quite the answer for Drennan, Kasper and their kind in a tutorial for Drennan who was frothing at the mouth at the idea that anyone in their coat and scarf could cause such laughter !!!!!!!

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A so who u jap jo. All this international study etc should lead to an education that sees beyond automatic fekn excommunication No church owns or controls God The abracadabra stuff is slight of hand mind and chequebook

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Should automatic excommunication apply to those people who covered up child abuse and by moving the paedophile to another area where they continued this abuse and the victims took their own life as they tried to deal with the abuse. Have those people responsibe killed victims?

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9.13 With your name and handle, it would be real. In anonymity ….it amounts to zilch !

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9.26, don’t renege on your word, Bill. It’s immature. You didn’t ask for names.

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WM 9:01, the GardaΓ­ have sent a file on Leo Varadkar to the DPP. Do you think he’ll survive? The DPP’s outcome could influence the Fine Gael nomination for Taoiseach in December.

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I will send a letter to Pat detailing your extra curricular affairs in Australia and Ireland.
Pandoras box never looked so gay (happy)

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9.31 Australia will let you off with nothing. International standards of policing are more rigorous than your kind are used to…..ID a great thing in tech, Lol

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9.31 Why the privacy of a letter. Put it up here on the Blog. Consider the legal ramifications to your IP address….if you have any prudence at all.

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no Eileen you don’t need an explanation , you know it, play your fiddle all you want , you on there ditch, always wearisome of your family are totally embarrassed , there others well they wldnt know one end of the creed from another.

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Joe of Japan like his kind is a fraud, in person and intellectually/academically……outside the SJ net, he’d have been called to account a long time ago. The privilege of ministry…..even within a university……Jesuitical or Accountable!

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The only info you have on DM is through Paul.
Paul also tells stories about you and your man friend in Australia. Paul gave you money and you gave him your cheap art as collateral, he never got the money back so he kept your art. Fair is fair Billy.
You never got over being dumped.

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Paul Taylor was in a relationship with Dr. Noel Barett for 18 years, Their property at Darling Harbour was a huge loss to Noel. It is only the goodness of Noels sister stopped her going public, If you wish to push further I am happy to supply…….I was robbed. William Mulvihill . His purchase of a spainish property from Paddy Moran is the stuff of Dublin Clergy!!! Happy to supply if goaded……

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In the words of Paddy Monahan: Taylor is straight; ” have you ever seen the sort of man he is attracted to?”

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9.52 The German College information I have been given on Dermot Martin, I have never passed on…..no one would believe me ! Paul is probably the most insincere person anyone would encounter. Very pleasant, urbane and affable company…..but entirely treacherous. Priesthood is quite the nest for his kind…..and I suspect yours ! Ester and Ensa still think Noel is his cousin ?????!!!!!

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9.52 One more such comment and I shall contribute an essay style contribution. No winners. I shall start in mouth Merrrion, travel throng California,,,,,back through Killiney and Greystones……visit Aungier St and finish in Drumcondra……and lots of underground roots in the process !!!! The church on the river needs no steam works on Dame Lane !!!!

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William, when you get bored with lufe and need an escapee from your misery, isn’t it great to have Pat’s blog? You use it incessantly and spend so much time correcting yourself that it’s laughable. You should create your own blog and an apt title might be: MISERY ON MISERY: THE DIARY OF AN EX..MORPHING INTO MORE MISERY.

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9.37 Many thanks. Would you believe I have never been bored in my life ? You probably wouldn’t if your own is your template ? Thank you nevertheless.

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9.35 Your spelling an error…..but a luffa ( your lufe) gives me…usually great pleasure…..its purifying properties …..do you know what I mean ? If not….delights await you…..and yours!!

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Poor aul Jap Joe! He’ll have to hire a Japanese masseur to manipulate his bald pate to relieve all the stress he’s suffered on this blog today.

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Pat, have you seen the many videos put up by Robert Nugent recently? His latest one evokes many questions abiut his . He justifies his videoing the Chrism Mass at St. Muiredeach’s Cathedral by saying he was asked to do so by “others”. Coward, Robert: it was a horribly mean thung to do. He also said that his home town is “demonic” because of the lack of love for the Eucharist which he has witnessed. Incidentally, he was on his way home from shopping – on a Sunday, imagine – and met “someone” who bemoaned the faithless parish. Robert stopped for 5/6 munutes to spew out, yet again, his judgment and analysis for the ruthlessness – the absence of The Latin Mass!! If only life was so easy…I deplore his extreme thumping and sermonising from his car seat. Soon his animated, swinging hands will break through his videos to exorcise the nation. His monotonous monologues are tiresome. Personally I am praying that he’ll find some self awareness and a little more humility and kindness. Just wondering if you’ve seen all recent videos.The tone is not quite right and I believe he is becoming more intolerable and unbearable in his self righteousness. He has little good or encouraging to say about priests or bishops….again, all because of the absence of the Latin Mass…without it priests are “unbelievers” and “unholy”.

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