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ANTI GAY LARNE PREACHER IS CHARGED.

Businessman Ryan Williamson, 44, regularly preaches against homosexuality in messages he delivers across NI and the Republic of Ireland.

Police were called to investigate claims he was committing hate speech in Larne on 10 August last year. However when approached by police, he refused to stop preaching and was arrested for disorderly behaviour.

His case came before Ballymena Magistrates Court yesterday, where his solicitor entered a not guilty plea. The case is adjourned until 20 May, to fix a date for a trial.

PAT SAYS

I have no problem with people preaching even if I do not agree with what they are saying.

We call that free speech.

But these speakers were using equipment that was greatly exceeding the allowed public decibels and it was causing a major disturbance.

And I object to them bawling out that;

All homosexuals were going to hell.

And

Disabled children were a curse from God.

As a 37 year priest resident of Larne I felt I had the obligation to publicly challenge their hate speech.

To date no one in Larne has disagreed with my challenge.

Some of these preachers were also ex prisoners with a hatred for the PSNI.

One of the ones arrested had 150 convictions

191 replies on “ANTI GAY LARNE PREACHER IS CHARGED.”

You heard it here first. Father Rupert Allen, formerly of the Norbertines, presently of Clifton Diocese will be leaving the diocese in Oxford to join the Oxford Oratory because he wants to say Latin mass. This has resulted in the permanent closure of our parish and has left Bristol University Catholic Chaplaincy in peril as the bishop struggles to find a replacement chaplain.
Father Allen will be the third priest to leave over their selfish desire to say an antiquated form of mass. There are rumours suggesting that two other priests will leave soon: one for the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest and the other is of a religious order and plans to serve in another diocese.

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He seems to have a restless soul. First the Norbetines, then Clifton diocese and now the Oxford Oratory. Rarely augurs well when there is so much hopping around.

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He’ll find he’s wasted his effort when the Latin mass is banned completely. Better not unpack.
Quite apart from this (if it is his real motivation and you can’t believe what a cathbot says) wouldn’t be the right reason to join a religious institute.

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@ 9:21am
The Latin Mass will never go, no matter who thinks they can ban it. I don’t know why all you lot are so desperate to ban it. Just ind your own business go to your empty and soon to be priestless novus ordo dumps and do your own thing. Follow your synodal church to its final destination.

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1:23 To get rid of your crowd, of course. It’s embarrassing trying to make out the church is about Christian love when y’all are dragged up like Widow Twankey making out it’s about dressing up.

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12.58
Good let them all go if they want to live in yesterday year then good luck to them.
Like us the LMB have the same situation with double standard Clergy and laity however Pope Francis has said who are we to judge and rightly so.
Good Wishes to them at least the Bishop has acted fast over the LMB let us pray others get up to the same speed as Bishop Lang.
Clifton Dioceses may not get a replacement when Bishop Lang retires 2025

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@ 2:57pm
Oh! yes and you lot are all about Christian love, I don’t think so. Your hatred of the liturgy and vestments of the Roman Rite in use everywhere for hundreds of years says the opposite. There are more Widow Twankey’s with your lot wrapped in cheap nasty zipped polyester ugh!

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@1.04 pm
Why will it teach him a lesson? By the way his first name is Declan and not Dermot.
Just saying!

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Is this actually about faith and ministry or is it about fabrics – take your Gayness out Of the church and into the ghetto!

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God bless him. Nothing selfish. Thanks to the foolish, contradictory and badly written Traditionis Custodis, diocesan priests are no longer allowed to offer the traditional Mass by so many bishops. Yet the new Abp of Paris appointed by Pope Francis, and known to enjoy his confidence, was offering traditional confirmation in Lille just recently despite that being apparently against the subsequent Roche rules. The Oratory say the New Order of Mass so this priest was not moved by an aversion to the New Order of Mass. It likely is a situation where Fr Allen was not allowed to offer the traditional Mass at all. Anyhow, the Novus Ordo has done what no persecutor ever managed in destroying Catholic religious observance in Europe, including Ireland, or reduced it to an aging, shrinking minority.
It was the work of a huddle of academic priests, the Concilium, who between had not a single parish. Oratorian Fr Bouyer, co-creator with Dom Botte of EP2 (beloved of every Fr Flash), resigned from it despite pleas from Paul VI, severely regretted his work. Paul VI appears to have too, but was too weak to offer anything but the Agatha Christie indult for England and Wales, despite the suggestion of Mgsr Bugnini to make that indult universal.
Looking at almost solely elderly congregation in a typical diocesan church presided over by an equally aging priest, it is clear enough which is ‘antiquated.’ It needn’t have been so, but it cannot be offered in any traditional way, outside of the Oratory or Rosminians and one or two small societies, unless a priest wants to be unemployed or committed to a psychiatric hospital (as happened in Costa Rica). A clerical sex offender in contrast can relax, and the wheels of justice turn slowly in his case. The New Order of Mass as it is now, is something of a particular generation who are now dying off and won’t trouble us anymore.
The recently and suddenly dismissed Abp Aguer of La Plata reflected on some of these issues: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2022/05/progressive-manias-powerful-article-by.html

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@7.05 pm
I think people should be given a choice and by removing the Latin Mass choice has been removed.

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@9:23 Yes, the Vincentian Annibale Bugnini, the main man himself of the New Order of Mass (but not the Holy Week Reform of ’54), urged his boss Paul VI to make the Heenan / Agatha Christie indult of ’71 universal. This did happen in 1984 with Quattuor Abhinc Annos, but by then the TLM had been institutionally marginalised. What Benedict tried to do with Reform of the Reform was just decades too late, whereas if the two were calmly side by side in 1971, the distancing and animosity would not have happened. It’s sad and unnecessary.

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That man was NOT disorderly. He was preaching as he is quite entitled to do. His belief is that homosexuals will not be permitted to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. If he were a Muslim, who prefer to throw homosexuals from tall buildings, preaching would he have been arrested I wonder?

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yes but did the protestants tell him what the Kingdom of God is? Did anyone tell Catholics what it is? I think not. because it isn’t and never was the same as “being saved” though connected with it in surprising ways.

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No, he would not have been arrested.
Jesus was arrested for speaking truth to power, and then crucified for it. These preachers are following his example, and are being persecuted for it.
The Bible is categorically clear: gay sex is sinful, seriously so.
Yes, I know all the counterarguments, principally, that the biblical authors did not know of, (and, therefore, could not have been writing about) loving homosexual couples. I agree, they probably weren’t writing about such couples. Because the circumstances of these acts are irrelevant: they are ALWAYS wrong, by dint of what they are, regardless of whether they occur in a loving homosexual relationship, or in a homosexual orgy, or anything in-between.
Some gay people are deceiving themselves, and others, by believing what they want to believe about God, and these acts.
Souls are at stake.

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Nonsense. Souls are not at stake. You know as well as I do that God is a lesbian and there are a few surprises in store after death for religious people.

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10.59
God is hetero. I mean, duh, he’s called Father, and Abba (daddy) and he’s got two boys, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. But I’m not sure if the HS is a boy, as the Bible doesn’t say. Maybe intersex, but Jesus’ twin anyhow.

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There are laws to stop you expressing your beliefs when your beliefs are racist, homophobic etc

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One of the less serious offences that the Courts hear for Public Order offences is a charge under Section 5 of the Public Order Act.  This is the offence of disorderly conduct.  If you are accused of this, the Police will need to prove that:

You have used threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour;

Within the hearing or sight of somebody likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

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Pat at 12.01
So, if I call someone fat outside and they get offended by it, I have committed a public order offence?

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11:59am disorderly conduct is any conduct proven to be carried out in compliance and in aiding & abetting in the perversion of the course of justice.

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Peter Tatchall (gay rights campaigne) has said he objects to what these men preach. He said that their arrest in Larne was unjustified though in a quote to the Newsletter paper last year. He said they were not threatening anyone.

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9.41: Why then Pat, do you publish offensive, ignorant, hate filled, vengeful and personalised rhetoric against priests? Why do you facilitate the persistent ugly, effeminising and violent language against chosen individuals? Some of your own rhetoric and that of many others is the epitome of racist, prejudiced and hateful language. The comments of many are morally reprehensible. You are the cheerleader.

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12;17 Yes, if the court decides you used threatening, abusive or insulting words that caused distress, alarm or harassment to another person.

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Brainwashed is the right name for it, if not brain dead.
Saying disabled children are a punishment from God is just shocking. The same thing got Glenn Hoddle fired as England football manager back in 1998.
We had a similar issue in Limerick a few months ago. A bunch of male Bible nuts deliberately drowned out a peaceful vigil for that poor murdered girl from Offaly on Bedford Row. They were saying the Rosary and upped the volume. You could here them in Lahinch. They actually hijacked the vigil. Where do we get these cretins?

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But your post is written as if you are still living in Limerick rather than 9000 miles away?

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@11.43 i am a Limerickman. The issue was in Limerick. I was at home. Join the dots.

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12.24pm So bishop pat you’re saying a court can decide, if people use threatening, abusive or insulting language that causes distress, alarm or harassment to others they are committing an offence. If that be the case then there are lots of people on your blog who are committing serious offences on a daily basis.. Interesting. Thank you Pat.

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I think disorderly behaviour is a public order offence. I’m not so sure this blog would fit the description in law of being a public place.

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Todd @ 8.13am -Begorrah you had a sleep in today. I have never heard anybody say a disabled child or children are a punishment from God, but I have heard a disabled child (which happened in my sister-in-law’s case) is a GIFT from God which we all agreed with.
These preachers are not Nuts, maybe you’re the nut, they are entitled to preach where and when they like. A group of us happened to be at the late Ashling Murphy’s vigil that evening and were not disturbed by anybody preaching. Cretin.😡

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1.33PM yesterday we were told Mark Kirby was given the last rights, today its Father Dempsey – where is the proof of this? Seeing is believing.

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The best argument against Christianity is Christians.
Incidentally it’s a bit rich being homophobic after being in prison. We all know how that one works.

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Dreadful people venting their hate & spleen in a public space & ensuring that everyone including children had this unwillingly enforced on their ears by these previously convicted thugs deliberately breaching noise abatement laws as well.
Hope Judge gives them the reality check that they truly have earned bearing in mind both the 150 previous convictions of one of these individuals plus their blatant breaches of the laws in place to protect the rights of groups now designated as being at particular risk of endangerment by such bigots as those highlighted on this blog & whom you rightfully challenged, Pat. Laws are in place to protect the interests of those commonly targeted for wrongdoing based on a wrongful assumption by the perpetrators that gender choice, sexual orientation, disability etc entitles them to abuse & discriminate & more as we’ve sadly seen some such abuse escalate into fatal consequences. Hopefully Judge will throw the book at them.

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100%. How can you have 150 previous convictions and be quoting the Bible? You couldnt make these nasty characters up

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8.15am ASD… – from what I and many others can see you’re a google whizz kid as well as everything else. Where do you get the time for everything?

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8.15am you need to return to school missy – full long paragraph of rubbish with only one full stop the whole way through to the end. Did you learn anythingl at all at all or was your mind elsewhere.

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Ryan entitled to freedom of speech without being bullied by RUC thugs on foot of a complaint by the Bishop of Larne

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8:16am Ryan should “disappear”, no one would miss him only bigots like himself.

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1.09pm That’s a very interesting comment – I remember reading something on a very recent blog about the words “Ryan” and “disappear” . Hmmm. very interesting indeed.

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Well Done for standing up to this hate filled preacher with multiple convictions, Bishop Pat. He was very rude to the PSNI too. Preacher Thugs

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Thats what attracts the self interested catlicks as they know they can further their own interests under the safe umbrella of their Roman Catholic Mafia clericals. Prejudicial attitudes & addictive level narcissism another visibly evident feature that public no longer tolerate from their “equals” who like to “think” they are “betters”. That Ryan Williamson is a danger to society, the RC brigade are not so obvious but just as bad if not worse.

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Anyone spouting hate should be held accountable to the law. In a similar way, anyone suspected of harassment,bullying should also be held to account. That being the case when can we see the diocese of Down and Connor and it’s HR function being investigated for its anti Christian , anti employment laws stance? That we should even have to mention a so called Christian organisation in this regard is shocking and a disgraceful testamy to the stewardship of failed Bishop Bling and the self seeking MBE warbler who have presided over this debacle and allowed the very many poor exploits of its HR function to continue unabated or checked. Non clerical staff work in a climate of fear and retribution from HR while priests do their own thing. When challenged by staff, they are silenced. All crime and wrongdoing must be called out and exposed. Where is Christ in this whole debacle ? One thing is for sure, HE is not in Lisbreen

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Lisbreen is corrupt from Top Down. Noel allows gay priests to be active so long as they are discreet. Most of the gay active ones are all on holiday right now.

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Let them get on with it if it makes them feel better. Who actually listens to these ‘street preachers’? Most are mentally afflicted and ignored

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Eugene O’Neill admitted to be he was gay once. But he said he takes his vow of celibacy as gospel. It is good and it should be welcomed amongst us, that we all have a sexuality but have chosen to repress it for service to God. It is the same for me. I am heterosexual, but I chose to repress that for my service to God.

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Fr Pom Pom does a jive down the aisle every day and I do think his talents would have been better served on broadway.

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Pat be careful, these men are mad and sheer hateful pigs. But good on you for tackling them. I was beat up in Belfast 2 years ago as I walked past a group of masculine men. I was wearing pink converse and tight shorts. I didn’t even report it and I regret that now.

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C’mon Eamon you should have known better than to wear that kind of outfit in NI. It’s full of narrow minded bigots of both persuasions.

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Ryan Williamson is missing the point because he ought to be lambasting the Roman “church” for abolishing belief and prayer in the 1950s. It wasn’t there for my generation when we were young because it was showcasing how “eucharistic” it was.

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And in Ireland, the Roman “church” abolished belief well before then – except for rare gems like Bp Pat’s family and friends.

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8.53AM Alvin, I love your heading “replying to himself” – there are more on pats blog replying to themselves – hilarious.

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Who was he inciting to hatred there was no crowd there, how was he disorderly? The only misconduct there was the overweight PNSI man.

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9.38
The Chief Constable should pull in his Superintendent and ask if his division has too many officers as there were FOUR doing nothing.
The Charge Bar Sergeant must have laughed when they arrive at the desk.
And what authority had that over weight Policeman to take the microphone if it was not stolen property.
Disgraceful waste of public money by the PSNI

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I see Jeffrey Donaldson lied to the people of Lagan Valley and has not taken his seat as a MLA. Is it just me or is has he a whiff of lavender about him?

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The Reds are investigating all claims that were made on this blog yesterday. They pride themselves on being a discreet and close group and are furious with leaks.

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For a Redemptorist, Kehoe loves an exotic and luxurious holiday abroad in the sun.
Who pays for this I wonder?

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All priests should be obligated to do what you do Pat. At least you have a voice and a back bone. Well done.

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Can someone advise me please? A family friend has asked me to donate sperm for her and her partner. They have asked me because they know the family and want to know the genes I’d be contributing.
This feels like the kind of thing the Church would frown on. Can someone give me the official position please?

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per my comment I want to find out the church’s teaching before deciding. Jesus is it even possible to be as stupid as you.

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Howling. I merely asked what the church teaches in my situation. Not my fault you feel inadequate because you don’t know.

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You are actually the inadequate one by asking “what does the church say” truly a pathetic excuse of a man when so many abortions are happening

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Too much to expect you could get a sensible answer from the cathtards and disgruntled clerics and seminarians who inhabit this blog, 10:09.
The church’s position is that sex and reproduction should take place within marriage so you would be in mortal sin.
A child should also be brought up in a marriage of a man and woman so that would not be acceptable either.
If you are proposing to do this by IVF there would be further mortal sin because in that case many many foetuses are fertilized which are then disposed of after one is successfully implanted, so you and your friend would be responsible for many murders.
I guess you’re Catholic so would advise you to seek guidance from your PP and start reading the catechism because it sounds like you’re inadequately formed in the Faith.
God bless.

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The Andytown news will be revealing a priests story about sexuality and religion next week. Will be interesting to see who it is and their tale.

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Pat I know you have a vendetta against my boyfriend, who is a priest, but I am still an avid fan of this blog.

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Pat you are kind and a compassionate Bishop who was acted as a light despite suppression by Mullaney’s underground network. Pat please promise you will never give into the suppression

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Ot even Phonsie. I just want to expose Phonsie for being a bully and hypocrite.

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11.36: Not inly are you m9rally blind but you can’t even recognise your flaws nor do you seem to understand the meaning of vendetta. Of course you have vendettas: you despise the Catholic bishops, you take delight in bringing priests down. You get a high in denigrating many. You encourage vilification of all whom you despise. Wake up, Pat, to your failings.

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I do not despise anyone. The only priests I ” bring down” are priests leading double and hypocritical lives.

Do you think that priests like this should be exposed or not?

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Pat who is your confessor as you have just written a lie at 11.36 as you have a vendetta against every Roman Catholic Bishop in Ireland maybe you like the COI Bishops as they never feature on your blog.

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Speaking of Fonzie any update on the 70K fourteen year payback?
I mean what’s going on in W&L or has the diocese opened a branch of the credit union .

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2:34 pm

I wonder if similar arrangements are in place in Dioceses in relation to monies gone missing but eventually culprit found out? Is covering up crime a criminal offence?

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11.11
It is a shame Bishop Pat does not have more time to spred the Gospel and bring people closed to the Loving Lord.
Next Thursday is the Ascension as we getting nearer to Pentecost let us Pray that Bishop Pat receives the fruits of the Spirit.

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Colin should tread very carefully after his own experience with his ‘domestic’ help

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If every priest was like bishop Pat there would be a great renewal of faith in Ireland – he promotes: freedom of speech and upholds human dignity – no wonder he attracts the wrath and venom of clergy – it’s because he is, what they are not.

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Do Irish dioceses publish their Mass attendance figures?
Why don’t Shrewsbury, Cardiff and Plymouth publish their Mass attendance figures.
What are they afraid of?
Hallam Mass attendance: 3600
Wrexham: 2008
Much lower and the local secondary comp will be bigger than the diocese in which they reside.

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1.33PM yesterday we were told Mark Kirby was given the last rights, today its Father Dempsey – where is the proof of this? Seeing is believing.

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I am a very comfortable gay man, but I am also very anti gay. I do not like what most stand for, or behave like. Let’s face it also, the bible is also against what we practice.

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2.00pm Its not. The prescriptions were all about hospitality. There was no handshake…..greeting took a veey different form !!!!!!!

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It is to give priests or seminarians who have been highlighted by Bishop Pat, a mouthpiece so that they can have a go back. 😂

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To highlight wrongdoing and corruption in the RCC and to give people a platform for their views on the RCC.

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It’s where Pat forces the clergy (who will deny it) to wade through repetitive troll comments in case they’ve been mentioned.

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Most priests are decent men. Even the ones that fail to abide by celibacy, they are only human. Celibacy is inhumane. I respect all of them.

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1.12pm
Hallam’s Mass attendance is 3600 as published in their recent set of accounts.
Maybe they will be swallowed up by bigger dioceses – mind you Liverpool is an Archdiocese and it’s Mass going is 14000 (check out their accounts).
Funny because CEOs on £100k for overseeing failure and wind up – imagine Liverpool and Birmingham dropping unde 10000 like Clifton.
3600 isn’t a diocese it’s a deanery and doesn’t need a bishop needs a parish priest or not even that.
Post COVID Mass attendance the figures they want to bury deep in the small print – not Salford though – bold as brass was 38000 now 13000 – a drop of 25000 or 66 per cent.

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Problem with many reverend & irreverend preachers, they love to preach anti this & that. Anti is the new good and salvation is earned by the number condemned topics t.hey have in their portfolio. Preach Pro Jesus (whoever he is these days) The rest should fall into place

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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251262/senior-german-priest-quits-catholic-church
Senior German priest leaves Catholic Church
CNA Staff Speyer, Germany,
May 17, 2022.
” A senior German priest has announced that he is no longer Catholic, citing his disappointment over a lack of “reforms” in the Church and admitting to having broken his promise of celibacy. Andreas Sturm, the former vicar general of the Diocese of Speyer in southwestern Germany, made the announcement on May 13, reported CNA Deutsch, CNA’s German-language news partner. Sturm, who is joining Germany’s Old Catholic community, said that he had “lost hope and confidence over the years that the Roman Catholic Church can truly transform itself.”

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Leo was going on about the poorest of the poor on Claire Byrne this morning ( the gall of both) but that is where Ireland is and was always in Roman perspective. Fiscally useless to the Corpo!!!!! To be fare to Sean Brady, he backed the locality of Ireland over the Roman multinational….and suffered the consequence…..immediate acceptance of his resignation!!! The Fuckers!!!!

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The disregard for the Northern Protocol should trigger a border poll. It’s an absolute disgrace that London are trying to put a barrier between nationalists and trade with the EU. The Unionists are a disgrace. The Northern Protocol is good for Ulster farmers.

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Yes I’ve noticed too that Mass attendance not recorded by Stock either which they mask by highlighting their website visits which are high like 700,000 on line visits to website yeah yeah but how many are turning up and donating in the first and second collection.

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Melbourne had 800 million in one account when i left…..Oh the Universal Church…..so much to thank God/ the gods for….depending on your belief system!

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The Good News is that according to his charity accounts little Bobby Byrne (Cuddles) his Mass attendance hardly dented by COVID a drop of a mere 8 per cent coming in at a v healthy 27000 in the North East – imagine his Mass attendance is bigger than Liverpool and Birmingham.
Respect to Billy Bunter!!!
I suspect however that there is some massaging going on.

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Even id start going to mass if I got a free massage and didn’t have to dress up as an altar boy to get it.

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It would be more the line of these preachers to go to Maynooth and preach to the lads there. They need to hear it.

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Those preachers were crackers, nuisances, embarrassments, devoid of charity. +Pat was well able for them, but if this had been a Moslem preaching the equivalent in Islam, there would’ve been no arrest. The police officers seemed poorly trained and over-emotional. A better police officer might asked the Ryan and co. to turn to stop using amplification, or some other de-escalation, instead of an arrest. Preachers of old could manage with own God given voices.

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Imagine Northamptons Mass Attendance is 26,000 almost twice as big as Liverpool and 2000 more than Birmingham – respect as that’s their post COVID 21/22 accounts – what’s their secret to their success or do sniff another bit of creative accounting/massaging.
But I’d find that hard to believe given bishops are so honest and transparent.

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OMG – that zealot nutcase from Larne with large judgments..What a horrid photo…a tight lipped, smarmy, twisted face…seething with rage, hatred and vengeance…OMG…it’s frightening .

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Armagh Cathedral is preparing for Stephen Wilson. Eamon Martin is all excited to accept Stephen Wilson and his tribulations.

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How much went into the coffers of bishop bling from the sale of tieve tara,st pats home and land on the shore road along with the dioceses other assets? How much of this was redirected to the poor,hungry and needy? Christianity my arse. Its all about the dollar.

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