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ARCHDIOCESE OF DUBLIN – PLANS, RESISTENCE AND UNKNOWN FUTURE.

Yesterday, I was contacted by one of my Dublin informants about the forthcoming clergy changes that have been proposed by Archbishop Farrell for the priests of the Archdiocese of Dublin.

A list of the proposed changes has been circulated. But I am told the list is embargoed. In a tactic known within Whitehall, my sources tell me that some of the lists have been subtly modified in order to identify “leakers” to this blog.

My informant noted that no parishes were suppressed. And, in a sign of the times I observe that in several cases individual priests have been appointed the parish priest of two parishes.

None of this comes as a surprise. It is only a matter of time before amalgamation of parishes within the Archdiocese of Dublin commences. On the blog today, I am predicting in the next two to five years that Archbishop Farrell will have no choice but to commence a programme of parish amalgamation that has been implemented in the United States.

I suspect that what will drive the amalgamations — if the rumours are true that the Dominicans want to pull out of the running of several Dublin parishes.

This would be in keeping with other religious orders who have handed back parishes to the archdiocese with the most recent being the Carmelites on Berkley Road.

AUGUSTINIANS LEAVING RIVERMOUNT PARISH THIS YEAR

With respect to the forthcoming changes my sources further tell me that there has been a lot of resistance to the proposed moves because all is not well within the Archdiocese of Dublin.

I was told that some priests were deeply resistant to being moved. And, I was further told that some clerics have submitted doctors’ letters to Archbishop Farrell as justification for their refusal to move parishes because to do so would be detrimental to their mental health.

LETTER SHARED WITH ME

However, I am unable to ascertain if these letters were successful or not. It is quite a cunning move and it may have significantly reduced Farrell’s room for manoeuvre much to his considerable frustration.

However, it is the case that if there were more priests available this would allow Farrell to firmly place his own stamp within the archdiocese. Instead, it looks like he is going to preside over the slow decline of the archdiocese

Archbishop Farrell will have to submit his resignation when he turns seventy-five in about 7.5 years. I am led to believe that Archbishop Farrell has ordained men to the priesthood for religious congregations but, I do wonder before he retires will he ordain even one mote priest for service within the Archdiocese of Dublin?

Speaking of priestly ordinations, my informant is wondering is Archbishop Farrell contemplating ordaining Deacon Byrne to the presbyteral order? I understand that Deacon Byrne is living rent-free in a presbytery in Dublin?

But, it would appear that Deacon Byrne pursuing qualifications in counselling and psychotherapy. It is rumoured that the process of laicisation has begun for Deacon Byrne. Perhaps, when that is completed, will the then Mr. Byrne set up a business providing counselling services to the ever-diminishing remnant of clergy ministering within the Archdiocese of Dublin. Stranger things have happened!

FATHER JOHN GATES MAGHERAFELT

Is Fr John Gates, Magherafelt ill?

276 replies on “ARCHDIOCESE OF DUBLIN – PLANS, RESISTENCE AND UNKNOWN FUTURE.”

Michael Byrne has discovered there is massive quality of life outside the RC priesthood. Well done to MJB.

Many have underestimated MJB’s intelligence and talents.

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9:51pm Good for him and Best of Luck to him & may he be well rewarded for his bravery. It seems to be a step so many priests reject and it’s not good for them or their parishioners.

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Agreed. A handsome, intelligent and talented man. The toxic clerical cabal (including DM) used, abused and made an example of him. I admire the sheer resilience.
PC

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8:44 Right Back at you – Makes a change from priests having spies everywhere!! 👁👁👁👁👁👁

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Pat is it true you are working with a gay man who is undercover trying to expose Clergy that use Grindr?

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Pat, your observations are ones which priests in the Diocese have made long before Archbishop Farrell arrived in Dublin. The changes for 2022 were discussed in great detail. Priests had the opportunity to agree or disagree with proposals put to them. Despite the shortage of of priests, I believe the Archbishop has acted with great care. There are many priests who have various illnesses and who require attention and care. The AB listened carefully and kindly. I think your cynical narrative is very unfair. We are well aware of our challenges or crises. The AB is making every effort that we prepare for even more radical changes. His pastoral sensitivities are quite astute, contrary to your information. Pat, all of us working in parishes get on with doing our best, trying to encourage one another, utilising our best resources and working together. Surely a word of encouragement is not beyond your ability? If that letter was given to you by a Dublin “friend” and not by the priest concerned, he has just shown how devious he is. Private medical information SHOULD NOT be abused by ANY BLOG. I am appalled at your unprofessionalism. Pat, your informant is not telling the truth. He is very wrong on many scores. May all priests who are veing changed be blessed by God. We are in rapidly changing tmes. Can you Pat, pray for all who face uprooting, some in their early 70’s…

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10.16: In what way a bomb shell? A doctor friend of mine frequently writes sick notes for his clients. I’d love to know why you printed medical information that will readily recognise the priest concerned. The letter should be removed. That is very personal medical information. Would the Banks or schools place on their websites letters from staff doctors about their illnesses? This is very wrong that I can almost with 100 % certainty identify this priest. It’s regrettable that a Dublin priest gave you that very confidential letter. That priest should be named.

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10:16pm. Poor man – the Bishops & bosses clearly have his nerves shattered. Toxic lot will have yet more blood on their hands if that poor man suffers a stroke the way they keep spiking his blood pressure. They have been warned in that letter, at least his medical team doing right by him.

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I am a Dublin priest. I suffered under DM and am now suffering DLF.
I am physically and mentally bereft.
I have no diocesan support.
I email Pat Buckley.
He is my only hope

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9:31pm I’m not the Dublin priest you were so nasty to but you know what I’m totally 💯 fucked from watching this blasted blog 24/7 knowing it’s inevitable I’m going to feature on it now most of my blasted parishioners & even their kids know about it so I’m gonna get smart and turn da tables & join the Oratory & get ye all before ye get me Comrade!

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Pat you did you best for a Paisley Priest while living with his boyfriend and his dug Thankfully the Clergy and Bishop knew what was happening and it was GOODBYE.
But he played the sick notes before he went.

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Pat Of Course not as they do not Crucify anyone that is this blog!!!
I would imagine he will be placed on Compassionate leave he is not in the fit state of mind to be in a parish for his own safety or that of the parish
he needs to take time out or the Archbishop needs to suspend him.

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Pat your are so long out of Dioceses Ministry as that is a standard letter but they still want their salary from the Laity as it is the Laity that provides the money.
It is not a Bombshell the last five years it is normal letters however if they are so ill then they need to retire for their good and the parish.
Most Clergy live along and it looks like your Friend needs extra care with his mental health.
Change must happen in Dioceses and Parishes there are too many building.
Your insult to me expect is against Archbishop Farrell well be assure he does not manage decline he is Building for BETTER yes maybe sinner but he has to clear up the mess.
Did You buy anything at the sale online as I thought you would have bought some from the auctioneer

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9.22 to refer to his Grace as DLF is insulting to start with hopefully he knows who you are as it is time to move you on even if we have to amalgamate the parish.
Sounds like you were a pain to DM and now Archbishop Farrell.

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+Pat, this is a great blog. Only you could make hay out of the Archdiocesan changes. I am intrigued by the letter. No chance of Richard Purcell being incardinated into Dublin. It is not going to happen. It is too toxic. Unless the Cistercians take him back he is headed for laicisation.

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+Pat, any further news on the insurance claims within the Archdiocese of Dublin? For some reason the link to Patsy McGarry’s story on the Irish time seems to have “mysteriously vanished”.

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9.43 Can a registered charity insure itself against loss of income ? The income is on a voluntary basis. Interesting legalities here I would think…..Alan Black was a very honourable man when I was dealing with him……Some of those paintings I insured through him many years ago….on return we discussed why I was not re-insuring them….when I told him the story, I remember he asked ” was that a priest who did that to you?’ I affirmed without naming him. He heads up the religious section of Allianz now as far as i know. Matt O Donnell liked me when I was a student….he was a board member of Church and General then…..I still remember a few of his quips around the subject. The Archbishop of Dublin probably never made such quips….the incumbent. Matt O Donnell was an absolute gentleman….Cathal Daly and some of the Episcopal Bullies hastened his death. Paddy Walsh said at the meeting where Daly and others sundered Matt O Donnell that is the men at the top of the table/top table did not start behaving like gentlemen he would resign. Matt O Donnell had honour and integrity in a Maynooth I now realise had very little…I am speaking about the politics of the place in the 1980s.Every diocese is a registered charity and in case anyone does not realise it; The Irish Bishops Conference is a Registered Charity, they should be forced to declare their pension amounts!!! Its incredible. Good Night!

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11:03pm Good Night Bill, don’t lose any sleep over any of those bastards! 👍

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Pat, I think I know your spy/ informant in Armagh. She is a Sister Mary from Armagh and contributed on your blog in the past. They got rid of her.

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9:51pm Keep Up Dear, Sr Mary is suing the arse off them for unfair dismissal and the breach of her right to freedom of speech & expression.

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10.58: Transparency about cganges? Pat, I’m curious about your use of this word re: changes in Dublin. Apart from shortage of priests, aging profile and illnesses, the changes have been well thought through. Most priests are aware of the very challenging times we are in. The AB is making good efforts at responding to all situations. I don’t believe any priest has been forced to take any place he feels unhappy about. Changes in Dioceses are not the time to create conspiracy theories or to construct sinister narratives. At 69 years of age, moving to a new appointment, it’s prayers and encouragement I need, not downcast forecasts. I’m aware of the challenging and changing landscape. God help us.

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Gates is being protected by Armagh. He knows too much being too close to Cahal. Ask Gates about Bill Mulvihill. Now, that’s a story that John spreads round.

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9.59 Would it be like the story he told about being robbed in Armagh when he was there ??….Ask Michael Mc Grath about John Gates…..now thats a story. Cathal Daly took John Gates into Ara Coeli then for one reason…..Sweeney carried nothing to Cathal Daly or brought nothing out from Cathal Daly to the troops ( his one indiscretion was showing his cousin Padraig Murphy around Ara Coeli in Cathals absence….a very funny story…Cathal heard from James.) so Cathal was not getting the information needed….hence Gates who could not hold his water…..he would probably spit nails than ever say anything good about me, it was always so….I could never stand the Creep. A Creep from the swamps….thats not Coalisland!!!! Please tell him I wasn’t asking for him…..i must buy a Get-Worse card if I can find one; thats what I think of that boyo.

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9.59 The protection is for many reasons : pertinent is Mc Camleys time as secretary to Cathal Daly….why he left and why Gates was taken in; phonec calls, chronology, facts and Brendan Smith and so so so so much more!!!!

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10:16pm Most of them are right Boyos & Gals in one way or another – Durty Rotten Dishonest Scoundrels & worse.
The Cabal with Litterpick Frankie at the Helm

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9.59 It was Gates himself who told this story: Eugene Sweeney was going on holidays…Gates s first year in Ara Coeli, before Sweeney left for the holiday he asked Eugene for the masterpassword to the system which he had not been given; Sweeney answered ( I can hear him say it..Lol….Lol) ” John, you have everything you need.” Lol Lol….Id say Gates never got the password….he was never done bragging of his tecky skills…but doubt they got around Sweenys passwords!!!! Lol…Lol… Gates …..what a dose….

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Gates made an announcement at mass on Sunday that he has, “bone marrow cancer.” Appears fit and well as he was out running on Wednesday with his designer shades and his sycophant friend and poser, Peter Donnelly, ex principal of Holy Family PS.
Two well matched individuals suffering from small man syndrome.

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In my neck of the woods there is a priest after moving into the local presbytery who is supposed to be sick. He is not in ministry. Doesn’t say Mass. I found it interesting to see him ordering lunch in a local hotel recently. He is not near retirement age.

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9.59 Gates is probably aware of some of what Sweeney buried as well on instructions from his Masters over the years. A very good man is Sweeney…..A Cleric nevertheless .

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9.59 You are probably referring to the story he loves mucking around; ” Bill and Sheila” is one of his favourites. Caveat Emptor.

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Well I hope Archbishop Farrell shows True Leadership and replies to that letter as the Priest should be placed on sick leave immediately.
The Churches Insurance people would have a field day with the Archdioceses.
The priest who goes about on Crutches I am shocked that the Crematoriums let him function because if he slipped there would be hell to play.
It is an old story if a Bishop moves me I am going on the sick good luck to them as if they are too ill than they need to go into retirement and maybe do supply.
The Laity deserve better and if the Priest is ill then he should be placed on a sabbatical then we will see how quick they return.
Archbishop Farrell and his comms people watch this blog so let us hope he shows Leadership or he should inform Pope Francis he is weak and let Bishop Denis show them the way.

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8.48: Margaret, what’s so wrong with the priest ordering lunch from the local hotel? Is it a crime? Get a grip you nosey minnie gossip. I often get a lunch from the local…Are you a net curtain auld biddy? Leave the priest alone or if you’re truly concerned, have a welcome and kind wird with him. What is it with you people???

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What do you mean leave the priest alone. I’m not at him. He was in a hotel a half hour drive from his presbytery at the bar ordering lunch. Yet he is supposed to be sick unable to say Mass even once in the week. No I am not a net curtain gossip. If this blog is anything to go on priests are awful gossips. Don’t you ever forget the Minnie’s of Ireland fund the Church.

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Dick Purcell is influential & charismatic – several seniors in power fancy him. We haven’t seen the last of Rawhide. Watch this space

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10.23 Before any suggested incardination, I wonder will he do a pre-incardination retreat in Knock ? Who will be with him this time ?

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9:46pm between his files & his little black book, he has more than a few of them by the short & curlys in more ways than one. There’s several good reasons why he survived as long as he has done.

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11.04 Two papal nuncios later and the PP there is still not sitting on the woodwormed ( a dog may be mans best friend, wood is mans oldest friend) bench.

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10:37pm it will be very interesting to see what, if anything, transpires with Purcell around here.

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I am a Dublin priest. It is my understanding that 7 Dublin priests have submitted medical certificates to DLF.

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10.50pm: Fr. What point are you making? Seven isn’t a catastrophe. Considering the age profile, we’re lucky it’s not more.

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ICD 10 is more comprehensive than DSM 4 or 5 but less accurate than DSM. ICD 10 is used for billing purposes such as insurance.
He would be better off getting a PTSD expert like I did before.
Wow re RP as I thought he was
on to lacisation process re Hourigan.
We never heard of it ever since lt was last commented on. What’s the story 🤔🤷‍♀️

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The Dominicans in Dublin’s parishes (excluding the inner-city seminary) have been doing outstanding work for many years. The order can be proud of their immense contribution to the faith of the diocese.

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11:26pm most priests have PTSD themselves from the strain of covering up all manner of shite from noon until night & now thanks to the power of technology there is thankfully 24/7 access to Buckley’s Blog for badly needed venting therapy by their victims & survivors & genuine supporters whilst the RCC pays for clerical private therapies for their own nasty bastards. The NHS & HSE should be funding Buckley’s Blog.

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Sadly the days of the luxury of year Clergy Changes has gone and this is why theses changes are taking in July.
Changes will need to happen on need rather than reshuffles.
Amalgamations will be covered in Building for the future as that is all out to consultation.
Everyone knows even the dogs in the street parishes will need to amalgamate and close however it has to be done by Canon Law so consultations must take place.
Jerry carrey and Ger are saying they had a mental health issue so given the above letter once Jerry and Ger get the all clear they should return.

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Banging female parishoners is not a mental health issue, its as natural as water. Doing it when you are priest is a breach of rules and not at all professional.

Public wanking on the other hand…what category do you even put that in?

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12.19pm – I think you should be called obnoxious unctious – it would suit you better. You go on ranting and raving about particular priests every other day – jealousy is a sin. You are besotted with the clergy from what can be seen on this blog. Go get a life. Oh, and by the way I do know a lot. I’m off now to have my glass of vino with my friends. Bon nuit.

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9:54 Did Toddy touch on your nerves “Philomena”? What’s your particular connection to Jerk off Jerry and Gru? I think you should be called Phallus Philomena. Get off your soapbox and go drink some more vino with your Cathbot friends.

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11.48pm there are many religious off on leave of absence and sabbatical in several dioceses because of health issues, mental and physical. Lets pray with god’s help that all will recover from their illness and return to their parishes, in due course.

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Such is his UTTER uselessness, I shouldn’t empty my bladder over a single, romanist priest, even though he may have spontaneously combusted.

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4.16
But, dear poster, over quite a number of years on this blog, you have emptied the contents of your mind ad nauseam – an exercise far worse than the rmptying of your bladder.

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@9:46

Over the last thirty five years the public have had to endure copious quantities of clerical caca which stinks to high heaven. Its not surprising pews are emptying.

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It’ll be great when there are lady priestesses because they’ll make coffee and sweep up and be true servants. Electrician an advantage.

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5.39 I do not know of Michael Byrne except for his mentions on this site…..That is not what he needs….he needs to leave absolutely all connection to the system which ‘trounced’ him behind. He was used…..clearly, whatever of his own involvement. He has the grace of not having spent that long within the putrid toxicity of the RC system. I am sure it has all been painful, I wish him well and congratulate him on the success of his evolving change…….( Pot Black connection to the system….I know).

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Many years ago after much personal trauma with losses and grief, I had reason to seek professional therapy. It was at a time when I was to be moved to a new appointment which I could not face at that juncture. My therapist wrote a similar assessment and my bishop was most receptive to the content. I got a further three years in the parish which, undoubtedly enabled my recovery. To this day no one but myself and a couple of friends knew anything of this nature and it was well after a year before I shared with them. I would have been retraumatised if my letter was made known by any individual as it wiykd have been ieasy to identify. As with the letter for today’s blog, I am appalled by it being printed. I doubt if the priest gave permission. I very much doubt it because it’s easy to identify the priest. Pat, do you truly believe it’s ok and acceptable to print this private, medical unfirmation? I am astounded that it’s printed. Otherwise, the changes are quite comprehensive and as far as I know, all changes have been negotiated carefully and caringly. With so many changes with various challenges and expectations, the AB has acted very caringly. Credit where credit is due. Let’s try to be encouragers and more positive.

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Bishop Pat,
I sincerely hope you have a vacancy for this priest at the Oratory.
Archbishop Farrell must place this guy on a sabbatical and seek medical help for him as a duty of care or the Archbishop will be in bother.
This Priest cannot attend to his parish at this time he needs placed on sabbatical.

To this Priest feature here today and the other alleged 7 you all need to contact the Very Reverend Patrick Boyle and you all have his number.
Seven out of all the clergy is low given average age will be in their 60’s

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This priest is being well cared for by his own doctor – who has said that a move would affect his health.

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9.32: Pat, I am astounded that the priest gave you permission. His identity is NOW very definitely recognised. I wish him well. But the letter is a real indicator of his identity.

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7:39am that’s an insult to Rottweilers, very noble, loyal & discerning creatures – better morals and standards than Mgr Eoin etc.

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Dear Pat,
All the religious orders are pulling out of Dublin. The Archbishop will amalgamate parishes in the the next set of changes. He is strategically placing men to do his bidding first.
With regard to sick priests – the Archbishop has threatened priests with laicisation if they will not accept a medical with a diocesan appointed doctor. (He is not accepting the letters of other doctors.)
He is also sending some for ‘further studies’ and psychological assessments in Canada and Washington.
With regard to ordinations, the Archbishop ordained Fr. Joe Keegan in February this year. It is my understanding that Byrne has left and is not residing in a property.
Archbishop Farrell is close to Fr. Kieran McDermott, Fr. Gareth Byrne and Fr. Eoin Thynne.
It is my understanding that priests are being bullied, harassed and intimidated. Religious orders are the same. Dermot Farrell’s only concern is money.
Yours.

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The Archbishop wants people medically assessed in Blackrock clinic. And yes William, a HIV test is mandatory.

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9.08 Like clergy and police, medical practitioners do not all have integrity….the odour of the fiscal can be overpowering…..especially in psychiatry of the Corporate kind!!!!!! A company or an individual.

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8.04 And you can be sure he’s interested in the blood test results. As you say Pat….a very bad situation.

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The Archbishop is bringing the clergy into line with civic society and that is NO employer will have staff of on sick leave with a simple doctors sick note.
Most employers have their own medical people to do assessments and they must be done.
Do NOT forget Clergy are very highly paid compared to the parishioners.
Well done Archbishop Farrell and you are not the only Bishop seeking further medical evidence.

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9.41 I hope you have all the details that have come my way……do you know that syphilus leaves a “mark” on the blood ? Therefore a particular blood test can tell if an individual has or ever had the infection. They will be doing the like of that on some individuals as well. Mind you, if you are in the inner circle….well you know! I think all this is coming from the practices in Washington and RC facilities in the USA and the Mons. who headed it all up (and his ubiquity around the RCC world for the last few decades ….would build a small town) was to begin with in the USA military…..trained in all sorts!!!!! Taylor and a Werner Utri spread vile rumours …..I am interested in how the RCC works and their latest dirty tricks……there is a land of the Chosen and a land of the Not Chosen and there is no bridge between them on a Roman Catholic Episcopal Desk. I’d go so far as to be be of the viewpoint they are capable of administering anything in a syringe…..except of course for ending life!!!!! Thats not allowed in RCC teaching.

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9.41 The number of priests who in my 29 years in ministry ( and 7 in Maynooth) told me of their abuse( they were sexually abused) ( only two told me it was by a priest), their infection status for various viruses I realise now was statistically really high . I always found it heavy to listen to these men and only realise its toll now. I hope the Irish population are never aware of the numbers because it would do no good at all…none. It is all very sad because invariably a lot of these infections are symptomatic of ways of filling a huge gaping hole in life and living. It is inhuman to ask men to live like this in this century: celibacy is becoming a pathology because of its culturally anathema …..too complicated to go on here. ‘La vie set triste’…..as Van Gogh ( brilliant in Dublin now) best put it…. PS I WOULD NEVER DISCLOSE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING. EVER, even if they set Rosatti on me with water boarding!!!

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9.43 Bishop, did you know of the priest who sold his house with a sauna ….I think in Co Meath ( not 100 percent)…..not to get rid of the house but to get rid of the sauna and what went with it ? Thats quite a lot of years ago……..Dublin has the rankings alright.

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The Roman Catholic Church as a multinational and global corporation is the most well organised company on the planet. The infra structure is incredible …..so well organised . Fagan S.M ( and they got him) wrote a book ‘ Systems of Sin’ , he was a priest of the largest sin system ever….indirect line to the Roman Empire.

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10.22 The present Archbishop is the best in Dublin (RC) since Walsh as I have blogged before. I rate him….But if as you say he is bringing things into line with civic society…I sincerely hope he gives priests the Rights that their fellow citizens enjoy in civil society…in particular a complaints procedure for their civil protection. I don’t think he has that aptitude….to far gone in the RCC mind games…..his cousin is interesting yo listen to on youtube about his own story…on the pope who booted him out and the RCC generally: Ledwith I mean of course.

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Do you remember Mons. Thynne had a go at Michael D Higgins…..? I think he moralised at him…..They don’t like Michael D……but Bergoglio true to form did a few cartwheels and told we in the Republic how lucky we are to have such a wise man as head of state…..i think Bergoglio was having a right old go at his own club on the island!!!!!!

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8.04: All of us who work in parishes are aghast over years that a certain cohort of priests “opted” out of ministry to do their own thing, leaving their colleagues on their own. No communication, no valid reasons given, no effort by previous AB to rectify the situation. The new AB has simply asked reasonably well priests to make up their minds as to their status. They are on a payroll but absent and seem not to want to work in parishes again. The AB is justified in challenging these men and is also right to ensure that their medical letters are authentic. I have every sympathy for those genuinely ill, as has the AB, but there is a cohort who most definitely require challenging. Surely a time comes when any company is right to question the frequency of medical letters. If guys don’t like their ministry or “work” then they must make a choice, difficult as that may be. For God’s sake, let’s be truthful and realistic.

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8.04: I mix with many priests in Dublin and i havent heard anyone speak about being bullied, harrassed or intimidated. Give concrete examples. The AB has decisions to make and cannot wait forever to make necessary changes. There seems to be one or two trouble shooters creating very false narratives. That very dangerous as lies will be told.

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Why would a healthy man want to become a priest in an institution that covers up abuse corruption and crime; is riddled with predatory gay men from the top down (Uncle Ted);
and doesn’t practice what it preaches. Many young mens lives were ruined by entering a seminary.The Thurles seminary cover up is one example. If walls in Maynooth could talk…

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The subject of clerical moves is a raw issue for clergy and (I think) given secular clergy make a vow of obedience to their bishop, the singular issue which tests that whole notion.
Having been privy to the behind the scenes jockeying in the UK I’d say:
Bishops and VG’s have their favourites who they reward with plumb parishes and never move.
John Osman in Birmingham is a classic example – he’s a toff, probably privately wealthy, and ha a penchant for ……..
He was close to Couve and went on holiday with him and he is publicly sycophantic towards Bernard Longley.
Whilst others were unceremoniously moved on (an Irish PP) in Kings Heath (been there for years and years) Osman has been at Dorchester on Thames since the year 2000 and will v likely live out his days.
Why? What has he done to deserve this?
What or who does he know?
Seen many a VG say with spite and venom and I quote: ‘We can always play the obedience card’ as they shuffle clergy’s lives like a pack of cards!!
Oh and revenge postings are common in Birmingham or if they want to teach a priest a lesson.
The joy on a VGs face as they manoeuvre someone they dislike into a inner city shit hole or rural backwater is a spectacle of Christian love and charity.

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Jesus all the clergy you’re describing are ridiculous. You shouldn’t be a diocesan priest at all if you’re not minded to serve the people of God in Winson Green, Nechells or Lozells. WTF is wrong with these prissy queens.

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Another spectacle of Christian love and charity is covering up child rape while treating people who come forward to report abuse with lies contempt and gaslighting.

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10.43: Bishop Len…why don’t you just shut up…Yours is the same narrative every day. Try to be imaginative. Try not to be OTT…

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12:18
Now, now, there is no need for rudeness. You sound fascist attempting to silence alternative viewpoints.Freedom of speech is a core value in a democracy. Kindly, explain how my earlier contribution was, according to you, over the top. Try to be more tolerant.

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Noel Treanor will be forced to make changes with Rory Sheehan, John Murray and Gabriel Lyons all leaving.

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9.06: Ex-priest; you don’t speak for me nor for the many priests I know. We get on with our work as best we can, always trusting God. Yes, there are horrendous challenges but many of us do our utmost. I am certainly not downtrodden but feel very challenged in many ways.

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9.36 I don’t think he was claiming to speak for you………but he extracted an interesting comment from you. Are you sure of of the first clause of your last sentence ?

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Really not being funny saying this and this diagnosis isn’t in ICD11, but surely you would have to be sick to be a RC priest in 2022? The headlines of the past few decades would make you either steer clear or get out if you were together.

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11.00 bells nears……coffee is going to go through the roof in a few months because of the unusual frost in Brazil last year ( In Coffee Season)…….if you like coffee, pack them in now! A bientot….J’espere….

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can you hear him singing it, ” Dublin can be heaven with coffee at……………” I hope the Archbishop and Mons Military get a few in the cafes of the locality of their domicile…..Lol….Lol

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In light of the comments made by “AB’ House” at 08:04 if it is true that Archbishop Farrell will not accept the professional recommendations of independent clinical professionals that is a very serious situation for the priests of the Archdiocese of Dublin.
It would be incredibly STUPID for any priest to agree to be assessed by a doctor/psychologist/psychiatrist CHOSEN by the Archdiocese of Dublin or any other diocese for that matter without the following safeguards.
It would behove any priest who is requested by his Ordinary to undertake any kind of evaluation to have a written undertaking that the consultation will be subject to medical privilege between the cleric and the medical/clinical professional.
This undertaking should be confirmed in writing by the diocesan solicitor on behalf the Ordinary. Of course, the Ordinary will refuse to give such an undertaking via his solicitor because he will be bound in law. However, compromise is always advisable; the cleric should settle for an agreement where the Ordinary signs a document recognising the existence of the medical privilege. Within any document that signed it should be acknowledged by all parties that the “findings” of the consultation are to remain confidential at all times.
The document should explicitly acknowledge that any report produced cannot be released to the Ordinary under any circumstances without the written and witnessed consent of the cleric. It is appropriate to remind readers that when the reputation of a priest is at stake — Canon Law for certain juridical acts — requires the attestation of a priest notary. If the matter is potentially going to be contentious — then the priest should insist upon the involvement of a legal professional.
The cleric needs to navigate the difficult balance between threats from his Ordinary that failure to undertake the assessment could constitute disobedience with the adage that obedience is owed to the Ordinary in everything that is lawful and just.
And the “chosen” medical/clinical professional must further confirm in writing that the consultation and the report that emanate from same will remain at all times confidential and subject to clinical confidentiality, unless the cleric gives written consent for the report to be shared with the Ordinary. In heels is totally unacceptable.
If the cleric does not take positive steps to protect his good name and reputation he is (potentially) in the most naïve manner imaginable facilitating and providing potentially justification for Farrell to suspend/remove his faculties by a Decree. Because it would be foolish to think that Archbishop Farrell would act at any time in the best interests of any cleric in a contentious matter
And if the matter is sufficiently serious (a delict) the medical evidence obtained (with the consent of the cleric) if it is not subject to privilege can be utilised/weaponised in an administrative/judicial penal process. In the United States, priests that are not economically productive their lack of productivity to preserve the patrimony of the diocese has been used as a justification for laicisation.
I completely agree with his final observation that Farrell is only interested in money.

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Dear Clergy,
Please do not accept to be sent for psychological assessment. This assessment will be used in your laicisation process. You will be given a HIV test. My HIV status was used against me in Rome but following the excellent advice of 11:00 – I think I have grounds to sue the Bishop in a civil court. Thank you.

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10.50 Unfortunately you can’t….its extremely complicated because the laws have not been updated in these regards ( Tony Blair in UK did try but he did not have the time…or was stopped) but British Law..consequently ours recognises ‘a particular vocational arrangement’ between bishop and priest. Any court proceedings would be breaking new ground …you would need alot of money and the energy of millions of nuclear power plants!!! I am sorry to hear you were put through all that…….I hope you are going well….

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Bill, I think that there is new case law here from a precedent set by an Anglican priest.

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I think you misunderstood. My Bishop shared my HIV diagnosis with Rome without my consent. The bishop had consent to view the report but Rome did not. He sent my report to Rome. I think I have grounds to sue.

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I think you have – in the civil courts.

Disclosing a person’s medical information is a breach of human rights.

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11.00 am and 11.17 A splendid contribution I agree. The 2nd best comment ( for care of priests) ever posted, The pastoral care of the Gardai on the matter of using technology for meeting and such was, in my view the most excellent ever contributed: keeping people safe and from harm. The reason for the 11.00 comment is the harm, very serious harm and with deliberate and calculated intent, done to individuals to protect the Omertà of a very corrupt institution.

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O come on the idea that priests will go anywhere there Bishop sends them is risible.
The Monsignor’s and Cannons are given the plumb, monetary high yield parishes – Chelsea and Bayswater say or Dorchester on Thames or Henley on Thames etc.
VGs especially are rewarded with a plumb residence – and retired bishops – Kenney, McGough and Pargeter all live on their own in properties well over £500,000 if not touching the one million mark.
It’s a joke – rooted in the English class system and property and perceived not real wealth.

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For example, Ledwith, Ivan Payne or the Bishop of Broome were never put through such things…..and many many others, inside the circle people…..Purcell !

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Can I just point out something from the world of work to help put all this into context?
Employment contracts routinely contain a clause where you agree to do anything else ‘reasonable’ in addition to your regular duties as expected by your employers.
In the world of work if you pull the stress or sickness card as discussed today you’ll find yourself in an I’ll health dismissal in no time because employers are under no obligation to keep on people who can’t do the duties of their job. They are only required to make ‘reasonable’ adjustments for disabled people and not to keep on people who can’t do their job. In reality you might be offered different duties but beyond that they have no obligation to you.
There’s an abundance of clerical privilege on display today in the expectation of being treated as if you are necessary or an asset. In the church you are actually treated BETTER than outside (for example in ongoing financial support for years and the hoops the bishops have to leap through to get rid of you) so stop bloody whinging.

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+Pat, you permit a lot of nonsense by priests on the blog. But the comment made by the poster at 11 am is one of the best comments I have ever read about protecting the rights of priests. I think you need to devote a whole blog to this post it is so important.

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11.25: You are part correct. Truth is Pat allows so many ex seminarians and disaffected priests, grumbling laity and haters to spout much nonsense. Honestly….

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Allianz just have to say Covid19 was an act of God.
Dermot Farrell would have to publicly deny the existence of God to get the money.
So, how do you think he will spend his millions Pat?
😂

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Are you stupid? Turning the clock back doesn’t return the world to what it was. 🤣
The cat’s out of the bag – the world knows the church is a scam and a criminal front now.

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I don’t envy DLF’s task. He is having to pick up the pieces. Dermo ran the diocese into the ground, alienated the clergy, sold off the assets at a pittance, and was long on analysis but short on solutions. Dermo’s years were wasted years. He should never have been taken from his desk job in Rome.

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11.46 He can make an Alfa Romeo and a wallet disappear under the Ben Nelly desk…….they there become a Florentine trick.

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Larne would be much better than Maynooth, at least in your resident’s Pat seminarians would not need to put the wardrobe against the door at night to prevent sexual assaults from senior seminarians or members of seminary council.

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I have has priests and prospective live here before and will do again if required.

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**** THIS BLOG WILL NOT PUBLISH COMMENTS THAT REFER TO GAY MEN AS SODOMITES. NO NEED FOR SUCH LANGUAGE.

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Making obvious moves like extending the retirement age, recalling the Mia’s and putting them into parishes, asking ageing clergy to do more, putting desk priests into parishes. Next step is amalgamating parishes. If I was nearing 75 I’d put in a medical cert and retire, there is sweet fa that DLF can do about it. Imagine the headline 72 year old priest submits medical cert and is laicised and left without a home or income by DLF.

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Bishop Phonsie, without a second thought, did that to poor Fr. Richard Geoghegen. He had no regard for his physical or mental health.
None of us are safe.
Help us Pat!

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The present Roman Catholic Incumbent in Waterford and Lismore is an angry little man.

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4.51 The present Roman Catholic Incumbent in Waterford is a total Bollox. Bill Mulvihill

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3.29: If you really want to look smart and intelligent and make worthwhile arguments, may I suggest that you refer to Archbishop Farrell correctly. Have respect. The Archbishop so far has to be commended in makung very necessary decisions and at his efforts to respond to all challenges. His decisions wint suit everyone but he is an approachable man and is caring. Even if Jesus appeared to some clerics they’d find complaints and reasons not to follow him while still requiring to”being looked after”!! Archbishop Farrell is ensuring that all of us approach ministry together in a way that utilises personnel, resources and finances best. We should pray for him, even in our disagreements. Lazy, soundbyte arguments like 3.29 are worthless.

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4.54 Farrell is a good man. No doubt. If he was not such a good man, he would have made it to Dublin or Armagh before now….THEY knew they needed him; like Michael Smith, but he was done in to get Brady the job…..an Aussie connection. Bill Mulvihill

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I disagree with him being good man Bill. He is a company operator.

Had he been asked to do over, he would have.

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3.39 There is not a RC bishop on the planet who was not one himself including Demot Farrell…..difference being they leaked inspite of gravity!!! Thats why…..they know the power of a leak!!!

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5.48 He ( Farrell) never carried anybody elses bag/s in his life!!!!!! Lol….lol….i remember the accounts of Eamonn Martin doing a Prince Philip behind Brady everywhere he went at the Eucaristic Games….though he was not Bradys choice!! Thats a compliment to His Grace ( and he has it) in Drumcondra…..he does not have Killiney like your dead friend Pat….but he does have somewhere else !!!

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5.51 I understand your vantage view…..i dont agree…..he has made some noises not typical of his kind…..I would not like his company for more than ten minutes mind you!!!

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5.51: Pat, have you difficulty in understanding human nature without always finding fault in others? A person who is a company man is not necessarily a bad person. AB Farrell so far is managing to combine his skills as a good manager and a pastoral Archbishop. He is a good person. Most definitely and has a very challenging ministry. He needs our support and encouragement. Why your cynicism and pessimism?

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Seamusviii oh to be in the Stade Velodrome demain in Marseille at 4.45 GMT……Ronan O Gara has had a stellar carreer but i reckon his best years are ahead….he is going to be the Rugby coach of all time….he is also a man of happy marriage and lovely family…..he is very ruthless and direct….he is also a “strong ” Roman Catholic ( no one is perfect.) You see Seamus….the malaise of the RCC is that priests dont look forward to very much in life terms….its forever more of the same….that brings the grey palour and the inertia. Whereas a husband…a wife or a parent is always looking forward for the other/s…..where healthy…..to say nothing of the glories of the single life……Tomorrow i dont mind if La Rochelle win….for Ronan O Gara deserves/ will deserve it !!!!!! Go Leinster anyway…..Hope yoy enjoy it Seamus…..nothing to wreck your evening so except you are confecting the divine.

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https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/eerie-parallels-between-southern-baptist-and-catholic-sexual-abuse-crises
The eerie parallels between the Southern Baptist and Catholic sexual abuse crises
May 26, 2022
by Matthew J. Cressler
” When news broke that Southern Baptist leaders had covered up sex abuse for decades I felt a numb sense of familiarity. I came of age as a Catholic against the backdrop of our own ongoing sex abuse crisis. It would be years before I would truly understand how sexual violence and the criminal conspiracies that perpetuated it had defined contemporary U.S. Catholicism. One thing was clear quite quickly, however. The sex abuse scandal cast doubt on the moral authority of the Roman Catholic Church itself.”

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The very Reverend John Tohill, past Bishop of Down and Connor would be turning in his grave at Noel Treanors behaviour and attitude.

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The comment at 11 am about protecting the interests of priests when dealing with vindictive bishops is superb.

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4.52 You should petition Rome to cannonically codify that…..otherwise your view is and will be redundant.

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4:29
“…men in positions of power opted to protect their power and the institutions they governed, over and against safeguarding people’s lives. Or, as historian Anthea Butler put it succinctly on Twitter, when it comes to men in positions of religious power, “secrecy and protection of perpetrators always surpasses ecclesiology.”
These men in positions of power also protected their reputations, privilege and finance.

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There are many valid reasons for religious orders pulling out of Dublin.
There is a great decline in men signing up to them and maintaining members is becoming increasingly difficult.

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On this final Thursday of May, if people could pray at least one decade of the rosary, it would be Luminous. 🙏
May the divine assistance remain always with us.
And may the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

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Seamusviii
Most people on this blog will not know the Luminous Rosary as they are stuck in the past.
Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious and the Luminous.

It has NOT been mentioned once that this is the Solemnity of the Ascension as they are to busy attacking Archbishop Farrell.

Bishop Pat Buckley must have offered his Mass during the night as he has been on here all day.

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Is it yourself, Jim. Do us a favour by going on sabbatical. You don’t even live in Ireland so what do you know of the Irish Church.

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This blog highlights abuse corruption and crime in the Catholic Church. For more on crime in the Catholic Church do look beyond this blog, to Spain, Portugal, as well as Italy, where major child sex abuse inquiries into the Catholic Church are about to take place.

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Perhaps Billl Nolan, recently installed Ab of Glasgow , should look at a few of the shirkers on the payroll. Living in nice properties and taking the piss and bone idle. c/o Clyde Street, some for years !!

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Bill Nolan is starting to be a damp squib he has too much “faith” in his Daisy Chain guys and has even asked “Andrea” to look at parish provision and report back to him.
Bill Nolan spent last week in Gammarelli getting new Mitres and this week he is in Holy Land.
Then in Rome last week of June.
Big Hughie is in charge.

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Mungo’s Mammy.
Scottish Clergy only get 4.5K from the dioceses as they are self employed.
And they have all been told to get provision for their death either insurance or funeral plan.

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Farrell is only getting going. Word on street is that Building Hope is a shield for major closures of parishes. It will be interesting how Mc Dermott delivers his synod report/ he’s trying hard to be a bishop elect & is close to Farrell . Fellow priests are exhausted. We are neither fit for mission, purpose or ministry. We are surveyed out. The Irish Catholic is correct we have had enough. Farrells inner circle does not inspire change. Looks like a new faculty.

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Farell would do well to dump Mc Dermott….I am surprised the files dont hold the reason.

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7.09
35 Closures minimum 80 at a push that is how bad it is and really should have started few years ago.
Building Hope Living for the Future !!!!!

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Can Bill Mulvihill be restricted to three comments per day please. Scrolling past his numerous comments is tedious. Reading them would be exasperating.
Please.

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7.59 We live in a democracy with free speech Sir or Madam. Sorry my comments dont suit you but…..go for a swim or preferably F..k y.u. Claro ….are you hitlarian by disposition…..i feel like puting up another 22….perhaps you will feature?

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I do agree with uou. They are so boring and do not make sense. Some are even corrections on corrections. Poor man needs help.
Pax
Garngad Lad

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7.59 Id say you have read every one of them….that being the case ( perhaps not) you are a liar.

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7.09: Archbishop Farrell has a great awareness of our pastoral difficulties and is endeavouring to initiative necessary consultations and dialogues with priests and parishioners. So far we’ve had Synodal Pathway Gatherings which, though small, were very animated and lively. The preparations took much time and commitment from parish pastoral councils and volunterrs who acted as facilitators. Now we are engaged in the Building Hope project. This too is a big initiative but the process is becoming a huge burden on the same people who organised the Synodal Pathway in parishes. The time scale given for various targets to be achieved is far too big a chalkenfe. It’s as if the producers forgot about all other commitments that have to be met by individual priests in parishes is irrelevant. This project, while laudable, is way too idealistic and asking a great deal from priests and parishioners. Recently, our PPC members expressed their frustrations at so much information being forwarded before we had time to assess fully the pre-Easter Synodal Pathway meetings. We are in danger of over loading and expecting too much from a small corp group of dedicated parishioners. Sometimes in the articulation of a new vision, we can get very lost, over burdened and unable to navigate forward.

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Anon at 8.03pm

Spoken like a true RCC sycophant, whose obedience and loyalty to your Bishop, new ager cousin DLF instead of obedience to God himself.

Synodical pathways is a talking shop. Even the parishioners weren’t consulted including the Deaf community. It’s the cardinals who decides what agenda is placed upon for decisions. Not even the parishioners have a major say in all of this in synod.

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8.28: Deaf Guy: you’re an idiot. Do you have difficulty in understanding English? You are a most pessimistic, cynical and crappy commenter. You’re never positive. What’s wrong with you? You haven’t a clue about what happened in all parishes re: Synodal Pathway. It is ignorant of you to refer to me as a sycophant. Learn the true meaning of thecwird, Deaf Guy…😍😎😎😎😎🙂😎..

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9.27
You know the literal meaning of sycophant is the one showing the fig, where fig is likely a euphemism for the male member.

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8.03
Time is not on the side of the Parishes as what is being done now should have been done by Archbishop Martin instead he sold everything and hid.
Parishes need to pay there is NO pot of gold.
Does your parish break even if it does it is one of the very few.
Too many Church buildings and it needs fast action.
sadly it must be a very small parish you are in if it is the same few or is it your “friends” the chosen ones.

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8.45: Thank God our parish is financially comfortable. We have a very good community of supporters and good will and generosity. Those who attended our Synodal Pathway – about 120 – were most definitely not “friends” – all very dedicated parishioners. I will build on the goodwill experienced.

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7.59 The day i am censured will be the day i stop contributing…a bit like the Roman Priesthood when the Dickhead who sits in the chair in Armagh tried to shut me up. No red hat for Balmoral Avenue Pennyburn….are you his cousin??

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Pat, somebody asking you for something on This Blog using the word ” please” is operating at the request of a Very Ordinary Irish Bishop.

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Tedious you said; lets start with clergy claiming from Allianz for their Wateford Crystal breakage. All documented.

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Mulvihill at 8.55: How did you purchase your Australian junk art? Have you retrieved any items? You lived the high life as a priest. You must miss your lifestyle as now you seem permanently full of misery and angst.

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9.21 I had lunch and a long lingering wine with a Borges today, his first name is none of your business. Thank you for asking….I am enjoying each day…much like always. Never a high life…gave a lot of what I had away….frequenlty greeted by those to whom I gave it over years…..To live is to change…to live well is to change often….I assure you my life is improving…leaving was very painful, I had no idea what came in its lee….but I don’t think you are doing empathy or compassion. Tomorrow is to be a beautiful day…I have done the cliff walk from Bray to Greystones about 150 times in the last three years….tomorrow again…would you like to join me….its free and healthy and a very high life as far as I am concerned. If the widows mite is anything to go by….my place is assured, I do hope you can say the same. Amen.

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Has Mr Mulvihill had no success in obtaining gainful employment? The Dominican in Tallaght are in need of a houseboy.

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9.00pm Pat, you are as contemptible as Hardyhar for publishing such a comment. When Pat and everybody in anonymity print their income and employment here, I shall be very happy to do the same. Spies opened the discussion today….I have always been an estuary, not a leek, and my waters visible in plain sight. Pat, i tire sometimes of your tables ways to bring traction…and in my case reply. I do think with the Paullac I shall return your promulgated gift. I do hope you put this on The Blog. Thank you. Bill Mulvihill

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7.39pm
Child abusers
Cover up merchants
Rapists of boys and girls
Drunks
Drug Addicts
Swindlers
Greedy
Good men? Really?

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Oh Bella, you’re a howl. I’m not Bishop Pat.
Your friend Jim is back posting trying to remain anonymous but stands out like the proverbial sore…Will you have a word with Jim. Is he on a kick back from you know who?

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9.00 pm John Littleton has fulfilled that role for years….on a very decent salary….up with a Bishops Pension…..even Pats.

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I have decided to quit this Blog this evening . I left the bitching moral vacuous clergy in 2018, I can do without their vitriolic envy here, which the Bishop sometimes takes pleasure in….then of course : He is a bishop. Eucharistomen.

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I very much like your contributions to the blog, Bill.
You speak from years of experience inside the Ecclesiastical establishment.
Keep rattling the clerical cage. Don’t let them get you down.

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10.50 Thank you but come midnight I shall not blog again. They don’t get me down…I miss some very good people but my place now after these years is a good place. Pat Buckley is a good man but he is closer to the other 26 than either he or they would like to admit. To be a bishop is essentially to be a Bollox….no regard to anything but oneself when the chips are down….and by God do they know how to serve ( neither a Table verb or Biblical imperative here.) God bless….

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10.50 It is a Putrid Place propped up by the energy of putridity from clerical lives. Bergoglio might have as well pulled the trigger on many the death of a priest of conviction in Argentina…He will never go back there ….He is an International Terrorist feted by Western Governments….Even Michael D who should no better from his Latin American travels and knowledge….meanwhile Putin is demonised……People…phew…..

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10.32
Wasn’t the one you refer to as the “Dickhead” from Balmoral Avenue, Pennyburn two classes ahead of you in Maynooth? Did you not get to know each other there?

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I knew one very well….a bishop…Owen Crocodile Mc Cann….I know no one he ever said thank you to…..and as for the other cardinals and bishops I encountered…..the homeless man in jail thanks to the Mother Fucker in Ennis is The Walking Christ among us.

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12.19pm – I think you should be called obnoxious unctious – it would suit you better. You go on ranting and raving about particular priests every other day – jealousy is a sin. You are besotted with the clergy from what can be seen on this blog. Go get a life. Oh, and by the way I do know a lot. I’m off now to have my glass of vino with my friends. Bon nuit.

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