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BISHOP ROBERT BARRON’S DISTURBING MUSCLEMAN FETISH IS A SCANDAL IN ITSELF.

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Like many Catholics I was starting to follow Bishop Robert Barron and started buying his Word on Fire materials. He was spending millions to become a “social media superstar”, and his popularity was growing rapidly. But I was quite troubled to see his behaviors and the people around him when I first met him in person in October of 2017.

For some reason that is leading to a scandal, Barron is always surrounded by one or more muscular, tattooed men. Everywhere he goes, I mean everywhere Barron goes, he is always accompanied by these men. What’s more disturbing, he employs them, he pays them higher than high salaries, and it appears that one or more of them live with him.

When Barron started his Word on Fire Ministry (“WOF”) he named Jared Zimmerer as its executive director. Based on publicly available information, Zimmerer has been a competitive bodybuilder and became a catechist at his Texas parish but had no experience in non-profits or any executive level experience when Barron hired him.

⁹Today, Zimmerer is still an executive at WOF and a very close friend of Barron’s. Disturbingly, Zimmerer keeps posting pictures of himself showing his muscles with very little clothes at times. No morally driven corporation, school, private or public or religious organization would ever allow an executive to post those kinds of pictures online. Zimmerer’s public profile claims that he is an athlete, married and has 6 children. It is ironic to think that Bruce Jenner had the same public profile description at one point with the same number of children. But back to the issue, why would a Catholic Bishop, a man under obedience, allow an employee to exhibit his body publicly and lustfully?  

But wait, Zimmerer is just the tip of the iceberg. It gets worse. 

Meet “Father” Father Steve Grunow the CEO of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries and a “priest in good standing” according to the Archdioceses of Chicago and Los Angeles. A short, 4.9 feet “priest” with a Napoleon complex that also makes a point to show the world that he has big muscles and is starving for attention.

Again, why would any man do this? And this man is a priest for crying out loud! Why? I have asked this question to many people including friends of mine that are or were gay and all of them tell me that these patterns are very common amongst gay men. They use these kinds of pictures in their profiles in gay dating sites and apps like Grindr. Does the name Monsignor Burell, (another one of Archbishop Jose Gomez’ staff member) ring a bell?

We also noticed that Barron likes to spend time meeting with young seminarians at the St. John’s Seminary, and frequently invites seminarians and newly ordained priests to stay at his house overnight. Most noticeable, Barron recently invited Fr. Michel Mesa and Fr. Justin Oh.  According to seminarians Mesa and Oh have had a romantic relationship for many years. 

FATHER MESA
FATHER OH

Are we insinuating that Bishop Robert Barron is an active homosexual? That is a good question that we can not answer with 100% certainty. With that said, Barron’s statements about same-sex marriage and his close relationship and public praising of male homosexuality promoter Father James Martin gives us another disturbing hint in that direction. But Martin is not a bodybuilder so let’s leave him for a future article.

Now, meet Joseph Gloor, Barron’s photographer, producer, travel companion, roommate, and closest friend.

According to Gloor’s Linkedin profile, he started working for Barron’s WOF in 2016. Gloor claims to be “male model” and was a public-school English teacher before he started working for Barron. Nothing, nothing in his background tells us that he had the experience to be a producer, or photographer.

Why would Barron hire a person like Gloor and why are the two always together? A single, 40 years old, white “male model” working so closely with a Catholic Bishop? I do not know about you, but I find this extremely troubling.

Gloor is not shy and his social media postings show that he is starving for attention and public praise (vanity, lust). He posts half-naked pictures, showing his muscles and tattoos to the world while being employed by a Catholic Bishop.

Again, no corporation, school or religious organization in the US would EVER allow an employee to post these kinds of images online or anywhere. Most corporations have a Morals Clause, in their employment contracts. Barron, a Catholic Bishop apparently does not have this clause in his employment contracts or perhaps he allows (and enjoys) this. What is Gloor trying to tell the world and why is Barron allowing this? Why are the Archdioceses’ attorneys not stopping this? Barron is creating a scandal by allowing these public displays of indecency and vanity from his employees. Barron is also creating scandal and raising questions about his sexuality and his views and approval of, vanity, lust and  homosexuality by allowing this.

It just gets worse! Another important and quite unsettling fact to note is that Joseph Gloor is the least experienced and highest paid employee at WOF ranking a salary of $135,000 per year. Gloor makes more money than the director of development, and the president of WOF (Barron’s brother). Why would Barron pay his photographer and travel companion that much money? The median salary for a documentary producer or photographer in Los Angeles is $52,000 per year and this is for a for-profit company. His work experience does not match this level of salary, period. Gloor also gets free meals at Barron’s house and when traveling. At a 5000 calories daily diet that Gloor claims to have, that becomes another $50,000 to $80,000 yearly expense for WOF. So, in our calculations, Barron is rewarding his “producer” with over $210,000 a year in salary and meals. Plus, around-the-world 5-star travel plus other benefits. That amount of salary with that experience sounds more like a gift or a bribe than a salary. Are you getting the message so far?

An anonymous source that works for Barron told me that Barron is also a bodybuilder, and he does this to stay fit. We have not found any evidence about this so far. Also, any experienced psychologist or psychiatrist will tell you that bodybuilding at the level that Barron’s boys are, is not a fitness practice but an addiction.

So, to answer the question is Barron an active homosexual? Well, we really don’t know and affirming this would make us sin. The fact, based on the evidence presented here, is that Barron does enjoy having younger, muscular, tattooed white men around him always and he pays them unusually high salaries that look like bribes to keep them around. We find this disturbing and very questionable to say the least. 

Because Barron’s actions, behaviors, views on same-sex marriage, heretical messages and apparent strange, disturbing musclemen fetish go against Church teachings, it is our right and duty under Canon Law to manifest to the clergy and others of Christ’s faithful our views on matters which concern the good of the Church.

Are we creating a scandal? NO, Barron already created the scandal. We are only exposing it. We have communicated these concerns to Archbishop Jose Gomez and Margaret Graf, the Archdiocese attorney and the Apostolic Nuncio but our numerous written, verbal, and electronic communications have been ignored. We pray for someone with clerical authority to stop Barron for the good of the Church. We pray for the Catholic community to see what we see in Barron, a dangerous prelate with a very large ego, higher ecclesiastical ambitions, who is using his large social media platform to spread heretical messages, praise male homosexuality promoters  and who is prone to self-made scandals that are and will continue to damage the Church if we don’t stop him. 

AND

Pope Francis Appoints Bishop Barron to Lead Minnesota Diocese

The fitness level and muscle mass is about to hit the roof in Winona Rochester Diocese

135 replies on “BISHOP ROBERT BARRON’S DISTURBING MUSCLEMAN FETISH IS A SCANDAL IN ITSELF.”

Our parish priest is a muscle Mary himself. If he spent as much time in presbytery as in the gym, he would be a great Priest.

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Does nothing for me, either, in fact I hate that look. Footballer and swimmers’ bodies are the hottest.

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Another thing that marks gay men off from the straight (in fact it’s a better indicator) is their love of gossip.

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11:17 the public “judge” priests on what their inner circle do to others & note mutual complicity where it occurs, Father. Ye have been the talk of the Globe for decades now.

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Fr Daniel, you are so right. That’s what your name means in Hebrew, how poignant

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When did the church ever employ anyone (including clergy) based on their ability to do the job?
The article misses the most remarkable thing about the St John’s Seminary it mentions in Camarillo – it’s the seminary with the highest proportion of predators in its students ever. In the seventies fully a third of some years were subsequently credibly accused. The seminary has been a cesspool for DECADES.

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@ 11:25 – the only hiring nrequirement is that they can be trusted implicitly NOT to report abuse of any kind.

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‘father’at 9:11 – get used to being ashamed of your alma mater, and in fact yourself.

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The old saying applies.
If it walks like a duck, quacks, has a beek, two legs and webbed feet.
It’s a duck!!

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I suspect he couldn’t handle being a parish priest. He has spent his entire priestly life in semianries since the age of 21, Oscott, VEC, Ushaw, and back to Oscott. It’s not healthy. Ideal bishop material….

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Homophobic men get aroused when shown pictures of naked men. Check out the research.
That’s why homophobes become priests 🤣

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No wonder the Irish priests love going to America for their holidays & No wonder some of them look so pissed off when they return. It’s a wonder Rawhide didn’t go to America instead of Australia.

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It has to be said, foreign men are of higher quality than men from here. I particularly love a Brazilian, Portuguese or Spanish, not a pasty looking Irish or Brit.

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11.10: Well spoken. All the closeted non clerics spouting their faux outrage at Bishop Barron are joyless, sexless and ugly. Their frankly, pinky and soft skin are a turn off for real, masculine men. Compared to these him by, masculine men, they are all snowflakes, weaklings and physically unaesthetic. Get over it children. Grow up…

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Very strange set up. Why does Barron need all this muscle to surround himself with, is he in some kinda Mafia or something or into some racket to need this level of protection- he must have a very good reason to pay them such high wages & perks.

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+ Pat,
The ‘Big elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about’ is NOT the number of homosexual priests that the RCC is ordaining into its priesthood, but the type of homosexuals that it is ordaining.
Why are so many of them exhibitionist control-freaks?
During my working life in London I worked with many gay men but they seemed to be in stable relationships, living lives every bit as boring as those of the rest of us.

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Gay men in NI seem incapable of leading normal lives that includes monogamy. If anyone has found one that is then they need to fully appreciate them.

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Gareth, get over it. It’s your fault you can’t find a partner. Nobody wants you.
Have you considered applying to the Cistercians?

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Gareth I must agree. As a gay man I have struggled all my life to find a loyal monogamous man. Bishop Pat is very lucky. I hope one day I might but the older I get the harder it becomes, especially as we live in such a small country.

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Gareth. I recommend a schnauzer for company. My two are rex and george and I wouldn’t be without them

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I’m sure Gareth and Baxter if you were to give your supposed details to Bishop Buckley he would be happy to facilitate a meeting. It could be a whole new ministry and also be the blog’s first wedding!
But then I forgot, you’re one deacon trolling the blog aren’t you. 🤣

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Leave Bishop Barron alone! He is one of the good guys. And leave Fr Jim Martin SJ alone as well. He is one of the very few voices in the Catholic Church who is looking out for gay Catholics. The American Catholic Church is viscerally homophobic and he is one of the few voices who give gay Catholics hope. Pat, I suspect that you resent Martin because he remains a priest in juridical good-standing with the Church, and you are not. You wish he would leave the Church, as you have. He will not leave, and this does not make him a hypocrite. Instead of attacking Martin and +Barron, why not go after the reactionary bigots who have infiltrated the American hierarchy?
This vendetta against +Barron was started by American traddy Catholics. You are wrong to encourage them.

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I’m at a loss to know how to identify one of the ‘good guys’ at this point.
The Church seems to be a transnational cabal.

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Identifying the good guys is easy, because not one of them is a Roman Catholic. Anyone with a distaste for criminality has long left.

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12:35 excellent post. Well Said.

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Someone needs to knock you off your high horse. What have you done to bring people into the Church? What have you contributed to the new evangelisation?

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Hey, Barron will be cooled down in the frozen wastes of Minnesota where he has just been appointed a diocesan bishop, whereas he was able to be hip and all so southern Californian in Santa Barbara where he was an LA auxiliary. I bet he’s furious he’s been sent to cool off ! Frankie does have a sense of humour. I wonder what he’s got in store for Cordileone of SF, a silly twat. The announcement in SF cathedral last Sunday by the priest saying mass about San Diego’s McElroy being made a cardinal had a certain schadenfreude about it that Cordileone and others had been passed over. Watching it, I had a sense that most SF priests will be delighted that their nitwit of a bishop has been shafted by Francis. The message could could not be clearer to Gomez of LA, Cordy and other hard line, self-righteous, moralising US bishops.

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@ 5:10pm
Unlike you I’m not on any high horse, nor am I interested in any ‘new evangelisation’. I want a return to the true Catholic Faith which you lot know nothing about.

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@ 7:28 there’s a few joggers, cyclists & climbers amongst the Irish clerical set – there’s a gas photo of Ennis priest, Jerry Carey on steps of a Courthouse on a bike with a Guard & a Councillor I think it was holding his arse, ironic, seems it was taken long before his Beach episode!

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https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/multiple-resignations-bishop-barrons-word-fire-after-allegations-staffers

Multiple resignations at Bishop Barron’s Word on Fire after allegations into staffer’s personal life
Organization’s former highest-paid employee was accused of sexual misconduct outside of work
Jun 1, 2022 by Brian Fraga, Jenn Morson.

“Frustrated by poor communication and a workplace culture they say has been warped by secrecy and hypermasculinity, at least a half-dozen Word on Fire employees in recent months have resigned from the Catholic outlet founded by Los Angeles Auxiliary Bishop Robert Barron.Those who remain at the Illinois-based multimedia nonprofit are working in an environment that a few recently departed workers described to NCR as beset by low morale, damaged trust and a “boys’ club” culture that made some female employees uncomfortable and others unwilling to raise concerns to leadership.
“To put it bluntly, I do not feel that if I had been one of the victims, I would have been protected in any way,” said a former staff member, who left Word on Fire after working there for about a year.”

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So the allegations are against a hetero? He is is therefore clearly not in a relationship with the bishop. Though the bishop being surrounded by musclemen is a strange set up.

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Corrupt Cardinal Sodano gave his nephew contracts, Sleazy Cardinal Becciu gave his brother’s cooperative Vatican funds, and Baron employed his brother. Have these people never heard of conflicts of interest and fiduciary duties?

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Nepotism is rife within the RCC. I know of one priest that employs his sister as secretary of the parish and his niece as a cleaner.

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9:46am Brazilian cleaners are second to none and unlike the priests sister, they are far easier on the eye and know how to MYOB.

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No I haven’t. I’ve put him in the Puritan corner and told him it’s heaven, it’s driving him mad.

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No different to N Ireland MP’s and MLA’s employing family members. They have all been at it for years.

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Them clowns should not be getting a wage. If I don’t turn up for work I don’t get paid.

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We all have a tribe we prefer, some like twinks, some like daddies, some like hairy, some like anything. ETTO – each to their own (of course)

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I’m in that category. I wish I could meet someone like me, but all the gay men I meet are totally sex obsessed. Their entire conversation revolves around it and it is all about having sex as often as possible with as many different people as possible.

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I agree with Fra, priests should only date each other and not lay men, they all think differently

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11.35
Same here.
Ironically, I would not be admitted to the seminary because I am comfortable with and open about my sexuality.
On the other hand, the candidates who lie about their sexuality and psychosexual health are exactly the kind of sex obsessed gay men who get into trouble.
The Church is to blame for this. The priesthood would be healthier if the Church abolished the ‘don’t-ask-don’t-tell’ culture.
It’s hard enough already being a gay man, but self-loathing gay priests make it almost impossible being a faithful gay Catholic.

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Archbishop Stack was improperly dressed, sporting, as he was, a surplice rather than a rochet. Likewise, lazy Elsie went for the black clerical shirt rather than a proper collar and rabat.

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4.28
Nothing you mention is required. Nothing either wore was inappropriate. None of your observations is remotely connected with the Gospel. The church’s liturgy isn’t a dress up.

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At least he is open and honest about his life. What about these priests living secret lives away from the parish. Men calling to their houses at all hours, drunk. Men visiting for weekend breaks a few times a year, it’s totally scandalous.

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12:07pm how on earth do you know all this? No bingo or anything else going on where you live? When I was a priest I’d get all the nosey feckers socialising leaving littie time to focus on me! Peace.

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“… is Barron an active homosexual?”
Don’t wish to be judgmental but I fear the answer is yes….

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Nepotism is alive and kicking

John Gilbert – retired at 60 – what was that all about – employed his sister as the parish secretary for years.

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I think you will find the Gilbert was ‘required’ to retire. Called to Ab’s House while vesting for mass and told to unvest and get himself over there asap. Then disappeared / MIA / ‘retired’, with no explanation to the parishioners or anybody else. Ridiculous ! I don’t care what he has done, I just would like some kind of explanation as to why somebody whom we had supported and paid for so many years is disappeared without a word. I have no doubt that he will be continuing to be supported by the diocese, perhaps not elegantly, but he won’t starve or have to go on the dole. And, considering that comes out of our money which we generously donate, don’t you think they could do us the simple courtesy of an explanation ?

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Well you’ve brought the queeny clerical trolls out today. They have to leave homophobic comments because of how aroused they feel at the pictures in your post, followed by the self loathing their internalized homophobia causes.

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Same old, same old. Whether it’s homosexuality, paedophilia or financial irregularities, they just CANNOT deal with the simple fact that not everyone is like them and there are honest, decent people in the world, who get that way without the ‘Catholic’ ‘faith’.

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@1.38
I definitely think you are on to something. The queeny nastiness of gay Catholic men never ceases to amaze me.
It’s so hard being a gay Catholic because of all the spiteful Catholic queens you have to deal with. My parish priest is straight and I don’t want a gay parish priest ever again.
You’re right. It’s pure projection.

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But you’re commenting under the name of poof and you seriously expect anyone to believe the other gay priests are vicious?

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9.18
I was referring to myself as a poof, so it doesn’t count. I know I am poof, and I am proud to be a poof.

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As he’s a Catholic Bishop it’s v likely that he’s a homosexual and (I’d say) his peccadillo is young muscle men – he’s so wrapped up in his own bubble that he can’t help but signal this by employing them and the ones who especially turn him on he moves in to live with him and preferences and treats them – I imagine as he treats them.
His move to Minnesota is literally being frozen out – one of the many rules of the closet is don’t be ostentatious and draw attention to your homosexuality- on the naughty step for him.
He was guest speaker at Liverpool Eucharist Congress – he gets wheeled in when they want to show their hip and down with the kids.
American meeja projects are a den of vipers and serpents – gonna go tits up as loads of money and power.
The Court of Baron would not be a nice place to be – those who resign and move on are the sane ones.

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I am very much like Barron in that I have parochial taste when it comes to men, muscular and twinky for me, now I’m away for a siesta, chat later.

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I propose that there is a benign explanation as to why Bishop Barron appears to favour muscle men.
I don’t believe Bishop Barron is gay. I have conversed with him on social media and we discussed the pastoral care of gay, lesbian, and bisexual persons. His attitude was totally different to any gay priest I have known. This suggests to me that Barron is not homosexual. Gay priests tend to be homophobic, or else they do not talk about homosexuality out of awkwardness. The reason he hasn’t realised the impression he gives my enploying muscle men is likely due to his heterosexual naivety.
The reason that these men have muscles is due to the fact that America is a pathological culture which values and encourages hypermasculinity, more so in Southern California which is a narcissistic society. This idea of muscular Christianity has infected the American Catholic Church. Michael Voris, for example, is also a gym nut. They believe working out and playing sports is a masculine virtue and this theme pervades American gay conversion therapy literature. This represents one subculture in American Catholicism. It is probably a counter-reaction to the other main subculture in the US Church: skinny, nerdy, autistic guys who like the Tridentine Mass and pompous liturgies and who like to dress up. Ironically, they are also emulateding a particular kind of hypermasculinity, the upper middle class and upper class 1950s ideal of masculinity. This is why they like to smoke tobacco in pipes.

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Have you won the competition for the most ridiculous comment on the blog with the other priests, ‘father’?

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Hi Pat, hope you are enjoying the Jubilee weekend, no matter what your plans are. I’m having an absolute drink fuelled weekend with Champagne, tomorrow it’s meant to be sunny so find yourself a good beer garden and have a pint on me.

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@4.22pm drink fuelled weekend, really? Yet you find time during this drink fuelled time to post on here. You are a total idiot and your posts are inane as you are. You probably will be one of those drunks who end up in A&E and become a drain on the resources of the health system. Idiot.

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4.26: So, so true of that gombeen of a drunkard. He is the type that will expect to skip queues in A and E when he falls over a pebble while out of his mind. He’s a disgrace to alcoholics who are genuinely broken and ruined because of a glass too many of wine abd who need positive support to say NO and not follow this plonker’s advice…

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Bishop why do you allow Eamon to promote alcoholism on your blog? I don’t think his comments are appropriate for the younger readers off the blog who are still in school.

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4.22 Is that you madame Unctious under one of your pseudonyms, of which there are many. You’re hitting the bottle hard, wonder why, uneasy mind perhaps. You are obnoxious.

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You honestly couldnt make the RCC up. It is an absolute comedy but with a lot of tragedy.
On top of paedophiles, rapists, selling babies, launderies, drug use, saunas, Grinder and stealing parish funds we now have bishops surrounded by bodybuilders. Throw in wanking in public in Salthill and dates in dodgy chippers in Limerick and you have an epic up there with 1492 or Once Upon a Time in America.
Pat you deserve enormous credit (and payment frankly) for the public service you do exposing these bandits. Well done.

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4.25
Somehow I feel your own life wouldn’t withstand much scrutiny. It’s called a proclivity to project.

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5:40 That’s right, you keep showing the world your religion doesn’t make anyone good and is worthless. Every comment you make is so reminiscent of the way paedophiles justify their abuse in their own heads.

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4:25 That’s why every gangster and mafia movie is based on it. Nobody would believe it was real if you wrote it as fiction.

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For decades, the priesthood has been a refuge for psychosexually and emotionally immature men. These sorts of men make the seminaries a hell hole for the good candidates. Consequently, the good candidates leave and what we’re left with are the weirdos.
Psychological tests are part of the problem because the bad candidates lie and are admitted, whereas the good candidates who tell the truth are not admitted.
The bureaucratisation of safeguarding also makes the problem worse. The only thing a criminal records check proves is that the person has not been caught. It doesn’t mean they’re not an abuser.
The Catholic Church hates gay people so much that they would rather have a priesthood full of sexually incontinent closeted gay men rather than chaste openly gay men.

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4:25 The girls & I haven’t been back to The Golden Grill on William Street since the Ger Fitz story broke! But then someone told me yesterday that he didn’t use that one, it was too expensive apparently. We might go back so, every cloud has a silver lining.

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I’m back after my staycation and what do I see at 4.25pm. Unctious is at it again. Wow and OMG some serious allegations in that comment – keep it up see where it gets you. I will not waste my time saying anymore, you are one pathetic individual. Now, return to kindergarten and learn how to spell.

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Hi Philomena. Funny your staycation had no internet, where were you, Rockall?
If I have said something factually incorrect please point it out.

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4:55pm
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A message to Robert Hourigan, what’s the story re you working on cases to Rome and to the tribunal itself?
It seems to us as readers here that you were blowing lot of hot airs or bluffing big time cos we haven’t heard any UPDATES from you since last post by you ages ago 🤔🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️.

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I think Hourigan and Bp. Pat were rather successful in obtaining the resignation of Richard Purcell?

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I agree. It wasn’t as if the Vatican was ever going to do anything in an upfront way. A visitation reporting nothing wrong and two completely unrelated resignations is actually vaticanese for these are two naughty boys because they’ve brought embarrassment on us.

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What about the other lad (the video man, Robert Nugent) who made bigshot claims that he was going to find out what happened in Thurles seminary? That bold pledge went nowhere.

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6:13pm don’t forget you are dealing with an international network of highly educated & accomplished professional crooks & criminals & their lay Mafia & with Frankies Bank behind them, give credit where credit is due, Bishop Pat & Robert Nugent got there with Rawhide Purcell exit although I’m sure the Australia’s will find themselves unimpressed in due course, leopards rarely change their spots.

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6:39, you’re confusing Robert Hourigan with Robert Nugent. The latter had nothing to do with the downfall of Richard Purcell.

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6.39 Tangentially to what you mention, is the phone of the Bishop of Waterford paid for by a Registered Charity ? That would make for interesting discovery in a trial of any kind. To begin with very particular threads would ( I am sure…Lol) indicate the discrepancies between his treatment of RG and RP. Whose property for posterity are the threads of a prelates phone when paid for by a charity, directly or indirectly. No rush to delete; heres why: they are all somewhere. Traction in science theorising that not even one thought is ever lost to the universe, not one. Scary me lords…..

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Bishop Pat, you’ve rendered a few key clergymen & their Catlicks speechless today with your blog on the American Beefcake clerical “companions”!! They’re too busy checking them out to spit their usual vile rants at us victims & survivors on here.

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@6.49pm Don’t kid yourself and get all deluded ” Meatloaf” (the name says it all). Beefcake as you refer to it does nothing for me as I am sure it doesn’t for others too. I find these men repulsive physically so I have not been distracted in the least one bit. Sorry to burst your wee bubble hen.

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6.49: Meat Loaf: Those spitting their “vike” are mostly non clerics, sime ex seminarians, ex priests and ultra conservatives who use Pat’s blog to display their ignorance. Many commenters are repeaters…undoubtedly who have a paucity of intelligence, maturity and wellness. I’m a Catholic and I’ve not been left speechless. I am though very intrigued by the silly furore over Bishop Barron’s “men”. Complete non story and laughable…Grow up boys!! Be “men”.

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Yes, we can all see you’re a ‘Catholic’ by the utter contempt you have for everyone else who comments here. I expect you think victims of clerical child sexual abuse tempted ‘father’.

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9.05
The horrible crime of the sexual abuse of children is weaponised by you. You don’t care in the slightest. You are using a tragedy for your own purpose.

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Bishop Pat I just wondered if you undertake visitations of other dioceses in Ireland or fact finding missions? I heard Phonsie is not keen on having you on any church property and the Kerry man also. Cashel could do with such a visit as clergy have low morale and I am sure others will suggest places that need a visit. Hope to see you in your Jag passing by sometime soon. I will stand you a drink.

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9.05: My comment touched a raw nerve in you, didn’t it? Are you a spitting, vile commenter? Incidentally, I don’t fit your tempted father caricature but i know how to spot spoofers, repeater commenters and the very disgruntled types who feature here regularly. And finally, I cherish my Catholic Faith, thank You!!

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All set for the ordination of Stephen Wilson soon. The Armagh DLP Officer will be very busy, Rory Coyle, Ryan McAleer and now Stephen Wilson.

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The WoF scandal as best I understand it unfolding subsequently (the post is from Jan ’22) is a hetero sexual harassment allegedly involving Mr Gloor and Bp Barron deciding at a board meeting to act as usual, legalistic and hostile to those presenting as victims. It seems strange for someone who was always so well honed with his words, but isn’t. If there is gay angle joe and jane public who buys his nicely made bibles and LOTH series, will be very last to be told.

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Fr Oh is oh so dishy. I don’t believe for one minute he is in a ‘romantic relationship’. The gay seminarians will have been jealous of his brotherly friendship with Mesa and this motivated them to spread nasty rumours. It has happened to me before.

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