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IS FRANCIS THE ENEMY OF CATHOLIC TRADS AND CONSERVATIVES?

Consistory Reveals Francis’ Motives and Ambitions.

May 30, 2022 from De Omnibus Dubitandum Est. by Mark Lambert

Pope Francis has named to the College of Cardinals a pro-gay ultra-progressive who turned a blind eye to sex abuse. Namely, the bishop of San Diego, Robert McElroy. McElroy has distinguished himself by supporting causes close to Pope Francis’s heart and by having a consistent opposition to the teaching of the Catholic Church in a number of areas. He objects to Church teaching on abortion, divorce and “remarriage,” homosexuality, and the priesthood, and was described by America’s Vatican correspondent as being, “recognized in Rome as a top expert on the social doctrine of the church.”

McElroy’s appointment must be a clear endorsement of the man and his agenda. But it is also a blatant snub to Archbishop Cordileone. This appointment is unthinkable and unworkable in any other papacy as San Diego is suffragan of Los Angeles. But Pope Francis has done worse. In 2017 he made an auxiliary bishop of San Salvador a cardinal while the archbishop was passed over. Absurd, but purposeful.

Back in 2019, McElroy caused murmurs among the bishops after he stood against the conference’ condemnation of abortion:

Rod Dreher links McElroy with a 2016 letter that Richard Sipe, the (now-deceased) psychotherapist and foremost expert on the sexual habits of the Catholic clergy, sent to him back in 2016. McElroy refused to meet with Sipe to discuss the contents which demonstrate he is deep in clergy abuse cover-up. So how can we say Pope Francis is serious about cleaning up abuse?

Continue reading at De Omnibus Dubitandum Est

Pope Francis declares war on conservative Catholics

By Monica Showalter

I don’t know what else you’d call this — Pope Francis naming the Church’s strongest and most outspoken progressive, San Diego Bishop Robert McElroy a Cardinal — other than a war on conservative Catholics, with whom the Holy Father already takes a very dim view.

Here’s the news:

Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego, one of Pope Francis’ ideological allies who has often sparred with more conservative U.S. bishops, was named by the pope on Sunday as one of 21 new cardinals.

The San Diego diocese said McElroy will be installed by Pope Francis on August 27 at St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome.

Winning a cardinal’s hat doesn’t outrank the archbishop’s mitre but it does make one a prince of the Church — one of the few people with the power to elect the next pope until the age of 80. Given that McElroy is only 68, he may be in a position to do that. 

The maneuver conspicuously bounces McElroy over the heads of two higher-ranking archbishops in potential contention for a cardinal’s hat — Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of the San Francisco archdiocese, who’s generally recognized as a conservative, and Archbishop José Gomez, of the Los Angeles archdiocese, who’s generally recognized as a moderate, and one who is believed to have wanted to become a cardinal. McElroy, on the other hand, is very progressive. He’s all in for illegal immigration to the states, global warming taxation, the LGBTQ agenda, women deacons, and giving out communion to elected officials who promote abortion through the power of lawmaking as well as cash shoveling to the abortion industrial complex. What a sad, sad rebuke to those Catholic leaders and their parishioners who try to follow Church law and doctrine.

PAT SAYS

I think it is true that Francis is the enemy of Catholic Trads and Conservatives.

But I think the Trads started it by being the outspoken enemies of Francis, Vatican II and the Novis Ordo.

The extreme ones have even said that Francis is not a valid pope.

I am not part of the RC institution and am under no obligation to to obey Francis and his RC fellow hierarches.

I do not even pray for Francis in the canon of the Mass.

But if one claims to be a loyal Roman Catholic one must accept Francis as pope and Vatican II as a full Ecumenical Council of the Church.

I think Francis is right to take on these Right Wingers.

If they don’t want to be a full part of the Church headed by Francis – let them go and found a new church for themselves.

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196 replies on “IS FRANCIS THE ENEMY OF CATHOLIC TRADS AND CONSERVATIVES?”

It didn’t take old Mother Burke long to get up off her Covid death bed and start up her travelling again.

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Anon at 3.36pm
True he got out quick than we expected. Heard some story re Burke that he has a long Covid but not sure if it’s true or not.
Hes travelling to Florence soon for ordinations (from yesterday comment) and then Cork.
I suppose that he has the money lot more so than any ordinary priest (whose salary is on 20k or something like that) to spend on necessary medical treatment in order to recover quick.
Just wondering, is mothwe Burke still unvaccinated or vaccinated since his stay in hospital. 🙄🤷‍♀️

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Fr Brendan was lovely. He did things correctly. He was a priest who fell in love. Was properly dispensated from his clerical state, married, widowed and later returned to ministry. He did things exactly as you often advocate for. This is public knowledge.

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Ar Dheis De… Ordained-left-returned- Why the hell could he not have stayed in ministry all the time. The law is a donkey

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10.33: I agree with you. Married priesthood must and should be a reality in the Church. Father Brendan did the honourable thing. A good and kind man and a great priest.

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3:26pm It’s not that simple any more, there are a multiplicity of issues apart from the celibacy rule.

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DG @ 4:45pm
I hope that you’re pleased that His Eminence Leo Cardinal Burke made a good recovery from Covid although it dose not sound like it. Thanks be to Almighty God and His Holy Mother and the many prayer’s offered up for him from the Faithful all over the world that this excellent prelate was spared. Not everybody is as nasty and insulting as you.

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Roche seems to be another anti-trad promoted by Francis for a red hat. What a disgrace. He is responsible for the new translation of the Mass that us old boys don’t like and refuse to use. I simply don’t like this Vatican 2 rubbish and I think Francis is going in the wrong direction on this one.

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McElroy, inevitably, is an associate of Uncle Ted.
In 2016, clerical abuse researcher Richard Sipe wrote to Bishop McElroy, listing allegations against half a dozen bishops and warning of a broader problem of chastity violations among clergy. In the letter, Sipe listed allegations against several bishops, including reports of misconduct by Archbishop John Neinstedt and Bishop Robert Brom, abuse by Bishop Thomas Lyons and Bishop Raymond Boland, and cover-up by Cardinal Roger Mahony.
Sipe also said that he had interviewed 12 priests and seminarians who described sexual advances and activity on the part of then-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
For his part, McElroy said he did not respond to that letter because the manner in which it was delivered made Sipe untrustworthy. Following Sipe’s death, McElroy said he had raised concerns that some of the information may have been inaccurate, and also that Sipe had not provided any corroborating evidence for his claims.

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5.50
Of course, mags. There’s a world of difference between an allegation and a conviction. It’s called justice. You know, like truth.

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9:41pm
Investigate all allegations. Some allegations need more investigation than others.
Some allegations are not credible.
Some carried out for ulterior mischievous vindictive financial motives.
Charge when allegation is credible.
Court appearance followed by conviction if found guilty.
Church has lost credibility including moral authority. Difficult to regain trust.

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Frederic Martels exposé of Vatican closets places into question what it means to be Catholic in 21st century. Did the St. Gallan mafia orchestrate Francis election-was Francis election valid under canon law- was the Church infilitrated by communists as claimed by Bella Dodd
– is Vatican city the biggest gay community on the planet outside San Francisco where Salvatore Cordileone refuses to publish list of credibly named abuser priests -is a form of ecclesiastical engineering comparable to social engineering taking place under Francis-
who am I to judge.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-appoints-pro-lgbt-anti-latin-mass-cardinals-to-congregation-for-divine-worship/

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Bishop McElroy is yet another morbidly obese cleric. Not much fasting and abstinence there. I suspect all his appetites are uncontrolled.

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Brendan Lawlor was ordained for an American diocese in the 50s, he left in the 70s and married, and re-incardinated into Killaloe in 1990 after the death of his wife. A lovely man he was.

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I don’t recall ever being told I had to be loyal to Rome. Either it wasn’t important, or they were taking me for granted.
It’s easy for laypeople, just skip the fake “communion” for a year and a day and stay “excommunicated”.
In my day most people didn’t “go up”, incidentally providing respectable cover to politicians to “not go up” either.
Those clergy who haven’t got talked out of their property and occupational skills, still face a horrendous challenge.
(In some countries, you are allowed to monetarily support your priest while he arranges his life, and not contribute to any bishops’ conferences / dicasteries / quangoes / sodalities that you don’t want to).
Trainees got tricked into thinking they provide a confection of value.

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My brother in Christ, I don’t know how to break this to you but there’s already been one. A that resulted was a proliferation of lacey frocks.

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There are at least 10 gay cardinals at present (mostly appointed by Francis) so there is a good chance that the next Pope will be gay. They could have Vatican Pride, with Cardinals Tobin, Cupich, McElroy, Tagle and Weurl having a float each.

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Is Tagle gay? I can’t imagine he’s actively gay? But I’ve often been wrong before.

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Archbishop Arthur Roche of England and Wales has been appointed a cardinal. This is wonderful news and an honour for the Church in England and Wales. What a wonderful recognition of Roche’s excellence. This is simply a time to rejoice.

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Your daily reminder folks that in addition to abusing your children, far from being pro life, Roman Catholics like any perceived opposition dead.

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Hi Pat, just a message from The Devenish, you were here a month ago at a wedding. We would love to enjoy your company once more. All the best for pride month.

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Sure Aine, you were saying yourself that half the people there that night left without paying their bills. Why don’t you say on here what you said to all of us???

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DP- how dare you challenge me on a public forum like this. I completely resent your insinuation that I would have spoke negatively about Bishop Pat or any of our guests. As your manager I will be addressing this and other issues with you in my office tomorrow- and in the interests of transparency, will be asking Pat to let readers know the outcome of the conversation. Pat, please disregard DP- you are more than welcome any time. And I absolutely recommend the Seafood Chowder and the Chicken Wings.

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“If they don’t want to be a full part of the Church headed by Francis – let them go and found a new church for themselves.”
Yes I’ve heard this kind of retort from other Prelates. So much for their Pastoral care or Frank’s for that matter!
As I understand, that nice Bishop from the South Of France +Dominique Rey supported both Progressives and Traditionalists …. in otherwords Catholics….and is currently being put through the mill. My word, the Anglicans have been living “Unity In Diversity” for years! You don’t (Yet) hear that kind of talk from ++Canterbury!
No, something is very wrong in the world and in The Church at the moment.
We desperately need to steady and sound the ship.

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Tom Wood
Well said it is time to draw a line under the Traditionalists and move them on.
There is only One leader and that is Pope Francis.
Hopefully after August Cardinal elect His Grace Arthur Roche will come heavy on the Archbishops and Bishops not following the Motu Proprio that was issued and get the Traditionalist out our parochial property and remove clergy offering both Holy Masses.

Pope Francis successor will continue to take the Church forward under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (to the traditionalists that’s Ghost)

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9.30 am
Please sign up for an adult literacy class, Jim S. It’s never too late for that.

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The commentaries about Cardinal-Elect McElory are very partisan. They seem to want to portray McElroy in the worst light. The truth is that McElory is a Catholic and a Catholic bishop, and therefore it is quite clear that he is not saying that anything goes and that the teaching of the Catholic Church should be turned over. Rather, he is simply saying that it is a matter of pastoral practice and nuance that needs to be considered in all those cases that are mentioned – the usual hot button topics of marriage, sexuality, abortion etc. He’s NOT saying that marriage doesn’t matter, or that abortion is okay, or indeed that sexuality and our responsible behaviour isn’t important. He is simply asking that we look at these things and the people that are touched by them with some subtle and compassionate ways, and rather than reaching for condemnation and exclusion rather seek inclusion and love. What is not to like about that ? Unless you are incapable of living in a world and a Church that can be a bit messy, which appears to me to be what most right wingers and traditionalists find difficult because they have a kind of theological and moral autism in their way of thinking and behaving, so they just stick to the black and white, and if you don’t fit in to their simplistic model then you are excluded and demonised. The appointment of McElroy as a Cardinal, coming so soon after that buffoon Cordileone’s ban on Biden receiving communion in his diocese, is a clear signal from Francis as to where he stands on these issues. It is where I stand too and how I try to live my ministry and my pastoral care of people.

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We need more like you in the church. Love understanding and compassion that come from God is lost in the condemnation and judgemental views from people who imo have had a nice easy life where the knocks of a hard life have not come to them.
You remind me of the good Samaritan.

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9.47am. Your type of pastoral care, messiness and “no rules” approach gave us all the clerical rapists and the likes of Grassi, Inzoli, Zanchetta and McCarrick, all of whom were welcomed back to ministry by Frank (in the name of mercy), only for them to re-offend.

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If Fr Brendan had left for a man and then wanted back in, would he have been accepted in with loving arms?

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Well, they ordained a civil partnership widower in Leeds diocese (Fr Chris Butler).

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The death notice of Fr. Brendan was placed on this blog with the purpose of controversy. Pat should have done a little research before printing the notice. A good priest and human being who was loved and admired by many. May God bless his good soul and all who grieve his loss.

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I tend to agree with you and feel Pat is doing this with some time with what he is told. If I am wrong Pat, I apologise, but I don’t think I am wrong.
For example, I know the woman that emailed Pat during the week about some Priests in the Diocese of Waterford and Lismore. I have seen the email in the sent section of the person that sent it. I was wondering if that woman made an allegation about one of the Priests would Pat have published that as well, maybe because of his dislike of the Bishop of Waterford and Lismore. I think Pat should be fully checking out any story which is sent to him by whatever means. What he has to say about some of those he speaks about could have a serious consequence.
I think Pat posting the death notice of the Priest last night was to maybe cause trouble, or to get the keyboard warriors as they are called in action. These as we all know are very dangerous people, more over because few if any will allow their real name to appear with what they have to say.

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You ‘know’ her? You must ‘know’ her phenomenally well to have access to her email.

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@11:52am
Bishop Pat has ethical, legal, pastoral,etc, responsibilities, in relation to blogs, has been a professional journalist for years, has, I imagine, lots of information which he is, as of yet, unable to publish, such as, for example, bishops hiv+. The email sent by the parishioner could be sent to most, if not all dioceses in relation to priests ‘gone but not forgotten’.
I’m not so sure trolls are as dangerous as you think; I am sure some characters who were/are in the priesthood ‘left’ for ‘highly questionable’ reasons. Some of those characters might even be a risk to society.

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I think they should all break away and form new smaller groups that will fade away, like the Real IRA etc

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Because violence and abuse (plus money) are the heart of Catholicism, not chance occasional incidentals.

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Fr Eugene O’Neill and the soup kitchen. Not all is black and white. Things had to be sorted. He was the man for the job.

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Pat, you do know that you are conversing with the St Patrick’s stalker, who should be in Knockbracken.

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Sister Margaret McCabe has often spoke of the evils of Pope Francis and it would appear that she is correct in her analysis.

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@10:33 even a Corncrake is entitled to live their best life, at least McCabe wasn’t running one of those Nazi style Irish mother & baby homes selling or burying babies or profiting from the indentured labour of working class mothers & orphans.

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9.47: A very sensible, careful and intelligent response. So many on this blog make hasty judgments and seem incapable of understanding nuanced narratives. There’s an appetite by many for scandals or trouble that don’t exist. I share your intelligent thoughts and analysis.

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@10:08am
Here we go again, with the, understanding nuanced narrative, I’m superior, pompous making excuse-saying one thing while meaning several other things depending on agendas to be served. Layered! There is absolutely no need, whatsoever, for many to have an appetite for scandals or trouble. The church has an abundance of scandals, past, present, and future troubles regarding some matters is already discernible.

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Maybe Father Brendan proves that a man can have a vocation to be a priest and a vocation to marriage?

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Of course that is the case. It’s just the dolt headedness of the Catholic Church that appears not to see that. Everybody knows that allowing married priests would be good for the Church, for the clerical culture, in every way. It would be healthier, more real, and lead to more priests and happier and more stable priests. Mandatory celibacy is a cruel imposition that so often leads to dysfunction that is damaging to the priest himself and to the body of the Church. I think most people understand that. So, what is stopping a change for the better ? Mostly swivel eyed loon traditionalists who threaten schism. Well, I say let them go. All they are doing is damaging the Church.

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Those who have a rosy view of marriage and promote it for priests are usually themselves unmarried, ie priests, nuns, confirmed bachelors and ladies left on the shelf. Those of us who are married realise that it’s no picnic, hence the very high divorce rate.

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Having a loving and loyal partner is the key to life? No? That’s why I am always surprised to hear of the many open relationships there are. Each to their own of course, but I am in agreement with you about relationships Pat. For all the negative abuse you get about your character, nobody can ever question your loyalty and love to Eduardo.

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Anon at 10.10am
Spoken like a true cathbots.-no love. Frankie the gaslighter would be proud of ya.
Give him a phone call as he might discuss it with ya with a view of RED hat in place of mc elroy 😉🤣

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+ Pat, remember you inhabit a house for which you do not pay rent. You have a life interest in it. So you can take that out of your expenses equation. Also, you have a partner, who I assume has work or income stream himself. Then you are still in harness and earning stipends etc. That is different to a priest who leaves with nothing, has to provide his own accommodation, and is reliant solely on social benefits – Universal Credit or State Pension. Life can be tough for a priest who leaves early, for one reason or another. As for religious priests, most orders are just spiteful and think that you have to lie in the bed you’ve made. I’ve seen lots of guys who have given 30 or 40 years service walk out of the door with nothing, and then leading a life of poverty, while his erstwhile brothers live it up drinking whiskey, eating roasts every lunch time, having cleaners, cooks, a car, all expenses paid. I know too many priests in the poverty situation, while the diocese or the order just wash their hands and are happy to see their former brother struggling. They think it serves him right for turning his back. Complete selfish and arrogant shits.

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10.10
What’s wrong with optional poverty? What’s wrong with optional obedience?

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Good morning, hope all the clergy in NI are trembling in their boots by what is going to happen at the weekend

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They’re all going to say mass as usual, 12:35. There, previewed, and this will be the totality of the news.

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Bishop Pat, your reader will need to contact Father Ger Jones as Diocesan Secretary
about the Solicitor and Accountant g.jones@killaloediocese.ie
As you know it should be on the Diocesan Accounts however the accounts are not published on the web site and the charity number on the web site is wrong as well.

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@ 6:05
Happy to report that it is neither myself or YD who asked for these details. I wonder who it could be? 🤔

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There are few things that I gleaned from this blog over the past year or so.
Vatican /Pope /Catholic bigwigs such as cardinals:
1. They don’t like the real HARD truth.
2. They don’t like transparency.
3. They don’t like accountability.
4. Do as I SAY but NOT I do (their closet lives).
5. They don’t have abused victims at heart by diluting their Canon law rules, which really SAYS it ALL.
6. They want YOU to keep paying money to their bank accounts while at the same time they are enjoying their ‘gaul’ and luxurious lifestyle at your expense which is your money from church collections via branch offices throughout the world.
7. A very strong emphasis on PR with no substance.
8. No element of fairness in respect to treating ‘cancel’ priests by sending to Rome for immediate lacisation without any say so nor any appeal, coming from a defendent which usually is a priest in question.
9. Any misuse of any money (our money) should be, in principle stripped of their charity status and start paying tax.

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It’s bad enough they’ve got Burke on the loose without appointing Cordileone, another flamboyant old flamer.

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@11:44am
You forgot to mention all the other old flamers in the Vatican Cocopalmerio et al. They might not be be flamboyant but their absolutely old flamers, as you call them.

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It appears that some priests can swan in and out of ministry seemingly as they please & others are completely destroyed, vilified, left without income, thrown to the wolves as documented on this blog & elsewhere. Fr Lawlor was obviously very well connected in Florida & Ireland. It’s hardly equitable when one reads such terribly sad cases of other priests being treated so badly by Bishops etc. I don’t believe this death notice is a criticism of the late Fr Lawlor himself but it certainly raises wider questions on the inequality of opportunity that exists in the personnel decision making process within the Roman Catholic Church and Fr Lawlors story and similar should provide interesting legal precedents for other clergy being victimised and left without income etc., going forward. Bless all who mourn Fr Lawlor and as a “lovely man, no doubt he would have wished for all of his colleagues to experience the same equal opportunities in their ministries. Pax

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You will not always think that you are ontologically special in 30 years time, darlings ! Reality will impinge.says:

My advice to young priests, even if they are full of themselves, is start a pension, begin making some provision for the future, try and come from a family that is going to leave you something, but do not think that you can completely rely on your bishop or diocese. They are liable to go bust given the amount of money they are having to pay out on abuse cases. Or, like Vinny in Westminster, they will cut any provision they give you when something like the pandemic comes again, or send you off to claim Universal Credit after 40 or 50 years of ministry. What a fucking disgrace ! So, best do a belt and braces job and make sure you have some provision, rather than going off to buy all that liturgical / clerical tat that young clergy seem to yearn after. Save your money and make sure you have options in later life. You will not always think that you are ontologically special in 30 years time, darlings ! Reality will impinge.

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Pension credit guarantees £182.50 a week. However, that would be a miserable existence even if you had accommodation. The church gets away with the great self-employed scam for clergy and is under no obligation to contribute to a workplace pension scheme. I left when I was 38 and am now 49 but have only managed to get 65,000 into my pension. I a contributing as much as I can now until I retire. You need a least 250,000 in your pension
pot to get 10k a year which with your state pension will give you around 21,500 a year which will allow you to run a car and at least one decent holiday a year. All clergy should speak to a financial advisor and to their families too. Often priests are not left legacies in family wills under the mistaken belief that the church will look after them.

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2.45
They should all have self provision rather than spending all their income.
Most Dioceses have taken the opportunity this last year to remind Clergy that they should have funeral provision either a funeral plan or life insurance as the days of the dioceses paying for funerals has well gone.
Oh yes the Bishop will turn up and preside but he will not pay for the funeral from diocesan funds.
Clergy in the UK (excluding N.I.)are NOT on large salaries that clergy receive in Ireland and most Clergy cars are on HP agreements or loans from the diocesan trustees

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I’m fucking sick being trapped in this hell hole job and not having a way out. Ex-priest is so lucky to have got out.

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Yep, you and so many others. If you haven’t got the money, support, housing, etc. then you are stuck until the bishop lets you go, and even then whatever support your receive in retirement is dependent on being tied to the apron strings and doing what you are told. I feudal, servile. That’s why dioceses don’t want priests to have a pension scheme. It would give them too much independence.

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12.14pm: You, whoever you are, are not a priest. For if you are/we’re, you’ve lost all self respect. No priest with intelligence,l and respect woukd not devalue himself in this blig. Recently, similar “anonymous” commenters have said similar to you, all giving the impression that many priests are “f….d” like you. If you truly cared for yourself being, you’d see a therapist. Cop yourself on and stop being such a disgraceful idiot.

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Judging by your temper, 1:42, there’s no sign they aren’t all “f…..d” like you and 12:14. I can tell how everyone surrounding you walks on eggshells.

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1:42 It is best to ignore these silly comments. They are trying to provoke a reaction.

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Oh Dear, it must be so difficult living in a spacious well maintained and well heated home with every comfort when some Irish parents are killing themselves due to the pressures of making ends meet like the lady earlier this week. Ask Ken Smollen about her and about the hundreds of volunteers quietly feeding Irish working families destitute today all over Ireland but all you are bothered about is sneaking around this blog in case your sheep find out the truth about you. Plenty jobs at Dublin Airport at the minute – piss off over there any day you like, Father. Your collared colleague that complained about paying €16.50 for a glass of wine & the glass was dirty will be relieved to find a peer of such high standards on his return journey from his latest international jaunt.

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There is nothing going on in Killaloe, stop looking for scandal where none exists. Fr Jerry and Fr Ger are gone to all intents and purposes, if everyone just minded their own business, the world would be a lovely place. There is nothing to be gained by intruding into the lives of our lovely priests and volunteers. Peace be with you all

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12:29
Weren’t you the one who said yesterday that Nash was still trying to catch his breath from all the “different” mess in Killaloe and that myself & “Jessica Rabbit” aka Y. were only the tip of the iceberg? Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence ~Oscar Wilde

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“Jessica Rabbit” – what an awful name. Ger Fitz chased the women, not the othet way around. Catlick gobshites

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3:17 Did you ever consider that maybe I don’t have the money for a holiday? The fact that you (apparently) don’t want me to comment on the blog will only make me comment more 😁.

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5:15 Jessica Rabbit was mentioned by me *sarcastically* because you know who (GF) sent the other you know who (YD ) a racy meme featuring none other than Jessica. Just goes to show you his mindset.

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You’ve plenty of money for a holiday, luv- sure you’re determined to play on your “woman scorned” status for all you can get out of it.

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9:46 There’s plenty of evidence yet to send to Fintan. Thanks to you, Fintan will be getting more ammunition to use against GF in the CDF. Now crawl back into your hole.

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9:46 Cath you wouldn’t happen to be the same “Cath” (now married) who went to Maynooth & allegedly had an affair with GF?! Busted.

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Guess what Cath? Your goose is cooked. Fintan is going to get a mail from me. I know who you are.

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Nah, you don’t actually- you have just proved yourself to be even more stupid than most of us have thought you were. Idiot.

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11:38 Too late minion. Mail has already been sent. Nee evidence has been sent to Fintan including the falsification of ….

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11:38 Doesn’t matter if you are the “Cath” from Maynooth or Cath Kidston. For every attack against me by Gru and/or minions there will be a reciprocal response by me and will result in further evidence involving GF being sent to Fintan. If you push me too far, I will contact the papers and y’all should know by now that I can write…an article I wrote recently appeared in the Limerick Leader anonymously. I won’t waste my time with local papers though…straight to the national ones. The real idiot here is you & the rest of the minions who think you can break me with your comments.

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What’s the matter Cath? Do the Cat-licks have your tongue? Go ahead & make my day. Fintan may not answer my emails to him but he for sure reads them and adds them to the big, fat file that he already has on GF. I get that file weighs a ton by now.

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Who looks stupid now Cath? Gru and all the rest of you minions should know that I come from a military family and learned from a young age how to defend myself when attacked. The more you antagonise me, the worse it will be for your “friend”. Eat my dust 😁.

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6:42 why on earth did this Ger Fitzgerald enter the priesthood, did his family force him into it, is it a family tradition perhaps?

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9:45 pm

Readers of Bishop Buckleys blog contact Bishop Buckley with any concerns on matters of abuse corruption or crime committed by personnel of the RCC.

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@7:30. I have a dog that could get a page published in the Limerick Leader 🤔 try a more national rag, like the Sunday World. Because frankly, they will even laugh you off.

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Iggy needs to declare the witness statements against Jerry Carey and Michael Collins. Think of the survivors.

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2.12: Let me assure you, “father” that you are the one who used the word “f****d” up in this “hell hole” of a job yourself. Its not the first time for similar comments on this blog, designed to create the impression that all priests are in the same “hell hole”. We’re not. Lies. We may feel hugely distressed and challenged but we are not like you. As I said, if you are real, find a good therapist. Incidentally, I am very kind and empathetic and have found great contentment in ministry. No one has ever had to walk on eggshells in my company. Ever. I can discern that you are a very awkward individual and walking permanently on eggshells would describe being in your company. Find a therapist who’ll help you find a way out of your hell hole.

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Anon at 2.55: A good response to 2.12: if, as you say, 2.12 is a real cleric, he ought to be kind to himself and practise self care by going for therapy. But, will he do so for his redemption from his misery? I hope he will..

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4:29 The stone which the builders rejected has become the corner stone.
Rejoicing in people’s rejection…..

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2:55 Oh it’s Fr Lack-of-Self-Awareness again! I looove your comments! Please do another epic rant telling me how everyone loves you and I’m shit!
And don’t forget, Father, you must always wash your sex toys. That’s why the church invented baptism.

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I find it disappointing and rather rude that so few correspondents have aired congratulations to Archbishop Roche on his appointment as a Prince of the Church. The Diocese of Leeds and the Church in England and Wales more generally should be extraordinarily proud of this deserved appointment. Arthur Roche has many great talents that will be used for the good. All Hail Ye, All Hail.

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3.13
Cardinal elect Arthur Roche is not liked with the Bishop’s of England and Wales and there is only one reason and it is the route of all evil Jealousy.
Also Rome has said a Archbishop from England Archbishop Arthur Roche 9England they are frightened that the nest Archbishop of Westminster maybe not get Cardinal status.
It will be the same in Ireland if Archbishop Farrell is appoint Cardinal next year over Archbishop Eamon Martin.

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4.56
Jim S., will you kindly to a night course in adult literacy and a primary degree in clerical culture.

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2.22pm

If your a priest you aren’t busy enough and your self description as being ‘very kind and empathetic’ reverberates with a lack of self-awareness and conceit.

Your harsh advice regarding seeking professional help from a therapist is a classic example of weaponising counsel and denigrating someone on an anonymous blog – the transference of anger and resentment palpable and self-evident.

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3.13pm
Arthur’s ambition needs no encouragement as he is self-congratulatory enough!!
The sycophants congratulate him: the realists pray for him and the church.

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I am rather shocked by your reply to my post. You obviously do not know Cardinal to be Roche. He is self deprecating; ready to help at the drop of a biretta (ha, ha) ; and an altogether fine person. If you are unable to recognise those virtues in His Excellency I suggest you desist from posting anything about him. Think again, think again and find a remedy for your cynicism. I can only add that it gave me enormous pleasure to hear of his elevation.

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4:46 Be careful, if you get your tongue stuck up his anus it will be embarrassing at hospital!

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@ 4:46pm
The very last thing the cockroach is, is self deprecating. I suggest you desist from your truly sickening sycophancy which is quite sickening altogether.

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Is there any other job in the world where the staff have to log on anonymously to engage with the pissed off runaway customers!!
If you ever wanted proof that the RCC is an internationally recognised danger to society, here it is on this blog when only Bill Mulvihill, Robert Nugent, Tom Woods & a few others dare to declare their identities & the abuse they receive is noted by everyone. You do yourselves no favours only to confirm the truth about yourselves.
Is there even one priest, Bishop or volunteer from any Diocese in Ireland who will come on here under their real name??? We’d all love to hear from you 👍

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No it is too dangerous.
Not everyone is as brave as pat and by gas lighting can end up in mental institutions that they wete not right in the head.

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“Oscar” @ 3.39: You are quite right. Realistically it’s unwise to ID oneself in matters of religion. That’s particularly true here in Norn Iron!
It speaks volumes about the alleged love & care ethos of faith beliefs when it brings forth such vitriol from believers against those who have different beliefs. And such antagonism is regularly displayed on this blog.
The titles of books by Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens sum it up nicely:
THE GOD DELUSION & GOD IS NOT GREAT
MMM

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4:27
Mick, did you get a degree from Maynooth back in the day? If so, I reckon it increased your job prospects. Was it a BA in catholic ‘farrago’? That, with a two year cqsw, the sky’s the limit back then, when every Tom, Dick, and Harriet could become social workers.

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3:39 What I particularly value about anonymous comments is it is really interesting to see how the cathbots make incredible assumptions about you in their replies. I would never reveal anything about myself on here because you’d get torn apart, though. I also love the way they try to work out who is who – for example they tend to attribute any criticism of Romanism to Magna Carta. And it’s interesting how they make assumptions about the rest of your life based on your comments here – for example that you don’t do any good or are a Protestant, or the classic ‘youre a reject’ abuse.
In another forum I contribute to which has been covering the Southern Baptist abuse, someone commented that after that nobody will want to listen to the Southern Baptist convention, just like nobody listens to the church of Rome! 🤣

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5.47: I believe mire people might give their names correctly if they thought they wouldn’t be chased after, harrassed and followed by nasty individuals who inhabit this blog. Indeed, no priest, however virtuous or kind or authentic or morally and spiritually good would feel safe if he fully named himself on this blog. Other blogs or social media platforms all seem to have anonymous or pseudonyms. It’s a pity because we’d have less horribleness and viciousness. As you are obviously aware, there’s too much vindictiveness in this blog.

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‘however virtuous or kind or authentic or morally and spiritually good’
Except the real reason we don’t see them here is they don’t exist. Once you have a corrupt organization riddled with crime, the only people who remain in it can’t be these things.

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5.47
Don’t you recognise the supreme irony of an anonymous commenter criticising the anonymity of commenters.
You don’t need to supply any biographical details. Don’t you understand that after tens of thousansds of words spilled here by a formerly pseudonymous and currently anonymous poster and almost all of which were expressed with a similarity of tone and theme directed irrationally against one rather smalll section of society, the average reader doesn’t need to hear more than four or five words from this same source to be able to identify it immediately. And this is despite the commenter’s adoption of an occasional different turn of phrase clearly designed to obscure ithe comment’s provenance. In short, there are too many samples from the pseudonymous poster archived here to allow him to avoid detection while now commenting anonymously.

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@11:44 LOL….not to mention the outstanding irony of supreme irony of an anonymous commenter criticizing the anonymity of a commenter crticiising anonymity.Yeaaa. I detect indicators of paranoid ideation or possibly indicators of early onset of persecution complex.
Yeaaa. The theme and tone of the comment directed irrationally at one commentator and the perceived attacks expressed against a ‘small section of society’ may indicate deep subconscious guilt or a guilt complex from the commentator @11:44 for substantial archived criminality perpetrated by subsection of small section of society.Yeaaa.The average reader doesn’t need to hear more than four or five words from this same small section to be able to identify it immediately. Yeaaa.
Well, I’m off…! Jim my…”couch potato”… wants me to answer the front door…!!! 😇😊👸

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8.21
The commenter doesn’t have an issue with anonymity. The anomaly is an anonymous poster criticising anonymity. In other words, the issue is ghe application of double standards.
However, the more serious issue is the weaponising of the crime of the sexual abuse of children by this commenter for his own psychosexual gratification. In reality, he doesn’t care about victims. If he did he would be able to identify CSA as an endemic practice in western society at least. The accurate identification of a problemis the first critical step towards eradicating it.

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@11:35 LOL… the real anomaly from a small section of society is the double standards it applies to the serious issue of the crime of sexual abuse of children perpetrated by a subsection of their small section of society for their physical sexual psycho-emotional psychosexual pleasure and gratification. Yeaaa. Meanwhile the very serious issue for the small section of society who are tasked to preach the Bible and all things moral is trying to assuage responsibility guilt and institutional culpability as well as avoiding justice with finger pointing to CSA as endemic practice in western society. Yeaaa. The problem is already known. It was identified years ago. We don’t need to reinvent the wheel. Yeaaa. Its up to the small section of society to take responsibility, do the right thing in terms of justice while taking critical steps necessary to eradicate it within its sector. Yeaaa.
I have to go…Denise and Dave are at the front door…here for lunch…and it won’t be dairy on toast! 😊 👨‍❤️

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1.01
The fact is CSA is not a historical phenomenon. It’s a current serious problem in Irish society.

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I am going to ask my boyfriend to marry me in Dubrovnik. His nephew and I have picked out a ring from his jewellers. It will be a wonderful shock I’m sure, wish me luck our Pat.

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@4.08 lovely news, be Happy & where will you be taking Bishop Pat to do the nuptials in due course?

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Anyone that gets involved sexually with a Priest should be named and shamed alongside the priest. Especially if they knew the man was a priest.

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We are planting 1000 trees in Colin Glen Forest Park today in memory of Noah Donahue, may he be in all your prayers today.

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There are a lot of buffons on the blog today. But William Mulvihill has not graced us with his presence for a few days now.

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Thank goodness. Too many corrections on his ramblings. Boring. The blog is much more interesting and readable without him and Maggie Carter.
Pax
Garbage Lad

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5.12
There’s no comparison between Bill and Mags. Bill is a lateral thinker who has something original to say. And his heart’s in the right place.

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Fr Brendan, he was a lovely man. In his day was very attractive. I am so glad he realised how lucky he was to find true love, with God and his spouse.

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4.32
Pray for Pope Francis as he is needing your prayers he is not well.
Maybe Bishop’s Pat’s guess that he has colon cancer maybe correct however just now it is his mobility that is very bad.

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5.09: Pope Francis’s well being will not be of concern for Pat. He does not recognise the authority of this Pope and fails, selfishly and vengefully, to mention him in the Eucharistic prayers. No doubt, Pat prays for himself as “me, your unworthy servant” – unworthy being the operative word! Pat has encouraged a nasty narrative against Pope Francis. Strange since Pat uses all the Roman Catholic Church’s rituals and Missal. I get a stench of hypocrisy from Larne. The prayers of the faithful if God are being offered daily for our Pope.

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Have you good neighbours Pat? Mine are pure tramps, sick of them partying all night and sleeping all day.

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It amazes me how one person runs this blog, so many comments from so many different people, I don’t know how you do it. Well done

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This idea of weaponising is the cathbots’ latest desperate attempt to stop people on here telling the truth.
Haven’t you noticed that nobody lets you dictate the narrative any more, ‘fathers’? That’s why we have legal abortion.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-catholic-sexual-abuse-1.6482168
Audit of several Quebec dioceses’ records identifies 87 abusers in the church: report
Sidhartha Banerjee. The Canadian Press · Posted: Jun 08, 2022.
” An independent audit of more than 80 years of files involving nine Quebec Catholic dioceses found at least 87 abusers among church personnel, according to a summary of findings released Wednesday.Retired Superior Court justice André Denis reviewed archived files of 6,809 people employed between 1940 and 2021 and uncovered 87 employees who were the subjects of confirmed or well-founded sex abuse allegations involving minors or vulnerable adults.”

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4.46pm
Here’s the thing – a cleric can be fine, helpful and an altogether smashing chap – but nevertheless ambitious, ruthless and ego centric – trust me darling Roche has been angling for a Red Hat ever since Elsie got hers!
The best way to stop me posting about Roche is to tell me to desist from posting about Roche works every time.

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Prince William by a simple act ( no cynics please) has shown up the entire Establishment class on these islands; Church and State; bishops and politicians….and all the cohorts that go with them. Shame on them all, he took to the streets and as a vendor sold The Big Issue; more than all the books in print could say to anyone who can see….not a golfer in sight.

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Time for traditional minded Catholics who actually want celibate priests and Godly living to part from the disgrace of the Irish Catholic Church, headed by Armagh #GrindrPriestsgetout

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