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TWO NEW PASSENGERS FOR FRAU AMY’S ROSA BUS.

THIS BLOG WILL REMAIN UP SATURDAY 25 AND SUNDAY 26 JUNE 2022

THE BLOG WILL BE UPDATED AS AND WHEN NEW INFORMATION ARRIVES.

DARK FORCES

UPDATE 11.30 am

AIDAN MC CANN

Aidan McCann’s case had its second “mention” in Craigavon Court yesterday.

It is expected that there will be some more “remands” before the case is heard.

UPDATE SATURDAY 25 TH 11.09 AM

COALISLAND PARISH BULLETIN

FRAU AMY

ONE OF AMY’S RECENT VERY SUCCESSFUL ORDINATIONS 😀

FR AIDAN MC CANN AND AMY
AIDAN MC CANN – BACK IN COURT YESTERDAY

From IRISH CENTRAL

A Catholic priest in Armagh has appeared in court accused of voyeurism after he allegedly spied on a woman for sexual thrills. 

Fr. Aidan Patrick McCann, 35, with an address at the parochial house on Maddens Row in Keady, County Armagh, appeared at the Craigavon Magistrates Court via video link from his solicitor’s office on Friday and confirmed that he understood the single charge that had been brought against him. 

Fr. McCann is accused of voyeurism following an incident on March 28 after he allegedly observed a female “doing a private act knowing that the other person did not consent to being observed” for his own sexual gratification. 

The Sunday World reports that the incident took place at a changing room at the Rushmere Shopping Centre, which is across the road from the Craigavon Magistrates Court. 

Giving evidence to the court, Constable Mosgrove of the PSNI said she believed she could connect Fr. McCann to the offense. 

Meanwhile, a prosecuting lawyer suggested that the case be adjourned “for some time” because the full case file was not due to be received until June 16. 

District Judge Bernie Kelly agreed to put the case back until June 24. 

Defence Solicitor Harry McCourt confirmed that he did not have any questions in relation to his client being charged with the offense. 

AMY’S VERY SUCCESSFUL MASTER OF CEREMONIES

By LGBTQ Nation Friday, May 13, 2016 

A well-known Catholic priest in Ireland — who was vocally homophobic in his sermons — has been outed for having his own secret Grindr profile.

35-year-old Rory Coyle was a priest in Armagh, a town in Northern Ireland — until it was discovered that he’d been keeping a secret Grindr account, chock full of illicit selfies.

Coyle was outed when an unnamed source contacted the local Catholic newspaper to confess he’d sexted with the holy man on Grindr on several occasions.

In an email to the whistle-blower blog Thinking Catholicism, the source, who is over the age of 18, explains:

[Coyle] spoke to me on Grindr a few times and kept wanting to come to my mum’s house for sex with me while she was at work. He sent me lots of naked pics of himself too. When I realized who he was I sent them to a journalist along with the screenshots of his sex chat.”

Not long after that, the source says, Coyle’s Grindr account was deleted and his Facebook page deactivated.

“I assume the journalist contacted the diocese,” the source continues.

In the email, he goes on to call Coyle a “dirty bastard” and a “total pervert” who admitted via text to participating orgies, going to gay beaches, and renting rooms by the hour for “sex meets.”

“He’s just a hypocrite. Denouncing gay people from the pulpit and then shagging guys when no one is looking.”

Days after the story broke, Coyle was quietly removed from his clerical duties. His photo was also briefly removed from the Armagh Parish’s official website.

No explanation was given.

AMY’S VERY SUCCESSFUL LOURDES PILGRIMAGE DIRECTOR

AMY AND EAMONN MC CAMLEY

Father Mc Camley eas PP of Keady when he was caught sending naked images of himself at night to young men.

Amy removed him from Keady and sent him on leave.

Amy has now sneaked him into Dungannon to help out

Interestingly, both MC CAMLEY and MC CANN were in KEADY when their scandals broke out.

ANY’S VERY SUCCESSFUL PRIMARY SCHOOL RELIGIOUS ADVISOR.

RYAN MC ALEER

Ryan McAleer, up until recently, lived in the parochial house in Dungannon in Co. Tyrone, was Amy Martin’s primary school adviser and was the VF – the vicar forane of the Dungannon clergy area.

Now, he has disappeared and is listed as gone to do post graduate studies – whatever and wherever that is?

A young Tyrone man has made serious allegations against Ryan to both the PSNI and Amy.

To date, no charges have been brought.

ANOTHER OF AMY’S FINEST PP’s

MC VEIGH

As the parents and children of the sleepy northern village of Pomeroy gather today for this year’s First Holy Communion ceremony, they will be doing so without local priest Fr Martin McVeigh.

A pillar of the community who was highly respected in Tyrone GAA circles, Fr McVeigh has been on “sabbatical leave” after becoming embroiled in controversy after inadvertently showing gay pornographic slides to a group of parents.

Fr McVeigh denies the images were his and the PSNI says he has no case to answer.

But the controversy has refused to go away — with a bizarre series of subsequent events further adding to the intrigue.

These include the theft of a laptop and the circulation of rumours that Fr McVeigh was “set up” by persons

It all started on the night of March 26, when Fr McVeigh was using a laptop projector to give a presentation to 30 parents and one eight-year-old child on the forthcoming First Confession ceremony for pupils from St Mary’s Gaelscoil in the village.

In the course of his talk he managed to project 16 explicit images of naked men on to a large screen, much to the mortification of the parents present.

At first, Fr McVeigh continued his presentation oblivious to the graphic images that had flashed up in front of the unsuspecting audience.

Then by his own account he began shaking when he realised what had appeared on screen.

According to outraged parents, the priest, who has had a long and distinguished career, then whipped the memory stick from the laptop computer and “bolted” from the room without explanation.

CURRENT POSITION

315 replies on “TWO NEW PASSENGERS FOR FRAU AMY’S ROSA BUS.”

James Lennon D.D called them The Girls Club. Archbishop Martin made them all Canons, between the rogues and the Canons he has rightly stitched himself up.

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All of priests mentioned are libs. When Fr McCamley was PP of Loughgall, my wife told him she had attended a Latin Mass. He went ballistic.

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Who was the priest who had porn on a memory stick which he showed by mistake at some public occasion instead of his actual presentation? Wasn’t he an Armagh priest?
There are so many of these it’s difficult to keep track. May I suggest an index page of clergy names and the reason they have appeared here?

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A detail has always escaped observation since the tech. display. One of the three observers stated that the men in the photograph were wearing ” bishops hats.” I posit that it was in fact a photograph and the individuals in the photograph were known to the PP in question. It was not porn by the official definition, it was a photograph of naked clerics wearing mitres. Much bigger scandal than a simple display of a porn image. However, it was all avoided because he destroyed everything. His panicked departure and then return is the key to the mystery of it all. You could not make it up. I would have a good guess as to who the Hollywood Bodies were, haha. Flaccid members makes it erotic but not porn. Has Pornaroy recovered ?

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Amy is perverted. She knows what happened on the altar of Kildorrey and proceeds regardless. The irony of having Wilson assisting the marriage tribunal – Rome should stand Amy down now,

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Anon at 12.15pm
It should be Crean, NOT amy re stand down.
Crean has no spiritual concept nor his faith or belief that altar should be re consecrated. He doesn’t believe the airy fairies as well, then why is he still a Bishop. 🤷‍♀️
One of the perquisites of any Bishop is to BELIEVE in God or JC. Also to spread or preeach the gospel of JC as well. He doesn’t believe it wheh he’s preaching about JC.
Its not photoshopped,full stop. It’s his constant denial to the whole kildorrey altar incident which cast Crean a pseudo cstholic Bishop or catholic in name only in the spotlight.
Analogy is this when such a bathroom or toilet is totally violated, therefore a cleanup is required to restore it back to original state of it. That analogy still applies to kildorrey altar incident as well cos its the spiritual aspect of it that was violated hugely and also offensive to any parish goer eyes as well.
Why didn’t the kildorrey Catholic laity protest it? Cos no faith, no belief, helpless, weak as that is probably a true reflective state of that parish. It might be true state of rcc in Ireland as a whole.
Crean doesn’t give a damn about it, nor does he re Catholic laity. In other words, he has a contempt for his Catholic flock or catholuc laity re his refusal to reconscreate kildorrey altar.
Best answer or solution to any of Kildorrey Catholics is to stop giving or donating your cash via Sunday collections to Crean or kildorrey parish or any other parish in Cloyne diocese and inform PP as to why won’t you donate it.
Hes in huge denial re kildorrey mass incident which doesn’t look good in any layperson Catholic view.
How did Amy know it? Was it because of the Armagh seminarian who got involved ?
Is that the same seminarian who is about to get ordained tomorrow cos it takes two to tango re one poster said him and priest of Cloyne who passed away last year. Or is it a different seminarian 🤷‍♀️.
Last time I was invited to an ordination was some 30 years ago as it was a SMA one.

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Let us not for get how the Bishops turned on Magee and said he should “do the right thing”. Little did they know that Magee would be the first of many…. however Magee had a defense the others often do not – magee was unaware that he appointed a VG to investigate their own cousin – because he was not native to Cloyne. Magee took the fall for the VG – and for not ensuring he was correctly informed about his own diocese. Amy should now “do the right thing” as well as Cream, Lugs, Waterford and a handful of others – not to mention Magee’s former VG who remained under the radar.

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Holy goat at 6.01pm
Are you saying that magee took the rap correct🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️.
If my memory serves m3 correctly although I could be wrong there – that VG name was o callaghan if I recall.
Investigating VG ‘s cousin which was news to me cos never heard of it and also conflict of interest as well. 🙈

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The VG was Mgr Denis O’Callaghan, the liberal former Professor of Moral Theology in Maynooth. He should have recused himself from investigating his cousin.

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He’s still in Roscrea. Was hanging around the college during the junior cert exams. He might have been working as a supervisor in one of the exam centres.

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Safeguarding at Irish State Exams - Out with dodgy Abbots & Clerics supervising our kids during exams.says:

1:49 Abbot “Rawhide” Purcell supervising kids doing the Junior Cert??? Are you serious??? This is a very serious safeguarding issue & needs to be reported. Also surely those on a low incomes including third level students etc should be prioritised for these roles.

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Keep the Hoodwinked Sheep paying up at all costs. Bar any whistleblowers from chapels & churches.says:

@1.44 OK, so Rawhide Purcell can supervise under 18s in the Irish State Junior Cert Exams but Bishop Pats personal details & photos are circulated to security henchmen paid by the Roman Catholic clergy from parishioner donations at an Ordination? What do the clergy not want the public to see and/or hear?? Oh, yes, that’s be the truth & facts – Oh, No, out with that sort of thing, the sheep must be hoodwinked regardless of the security bill to pay for it.

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Rawhide Abbot Purcell is pals with many in the hierarchy including Abbot Coffey in Glenstal, Bishop Luggs Monahan in Ennis & Bishop Da Fonzie Bullseye 🎯 Cullinan. Just waiting for his next foot in mouth explosion in the media. Aul Fonzie is good for a laugh anyway although some who have had the misfortune to work with him may have a different viewpoint.

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Magee was cruising and grooming my students in the 1970’s. I spoke with him to leave them alone. The Garda got a Rev Sister to go to him to stop him walking a cruising area in Co. Cork. There is a pandoras box unexplored there. The parish priest of Coalisland before his “tranfer” to Co Louth would have been Wilsons PP when he “entered” seminary. Paul Byrne was a Magee disciple and not in the 70’s. Now thats one bag of ugliness.

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6:40pm Poor ole George Michael was a Saint compared to these priests addicted to public toilets all over the place!

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6.25 Did Fr Jerry Carey’s replacement in Ennis, Fr Tom Fitzpatrick also take over his role as School Chaplin at the girls secondary school there?

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Kenny Hall? As in the Dean of the CofI cathedral in Enniskillen? How is he mixed up with the catholic clergy? Is he going to the ordination in Armagh? I thought he only mixed with the Enniskillen priests.

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3:18 Archbishop Martin chose to believe what suited his own interests and agenda. Birds of a feather – the usual clerical modus operandi.

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St Philip Neri, Grand Concourse The Bronx. Dinner with Charlie Brown. Do you remember? Lol Lolsays:

Mullaney is the only one who can identify me on this. Lets see if he reads the Blog.
Quite a number of years ago, about 22.50, I was leaving the IFI in Temple Bar, as I went though the hallway, Michael was standing in front of me with what looked to me as three Maynooth students. I quipped to him ” Michael, still corrupting the young!” He was fuming and enquired of me what film I had seen. I told him ” I am still here.” Quick as lightning and with a bucketful of glee he retorted ” How apt !!” I enjoyed his quick wit as much as he enjoyed spitting it at me. But thats for sure; he is still corrupting the young, most dangerously in mind.

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10.49 A Brady Boy. A Brady appointment. Promoted to the level of his own incompetence, like them all I suppose.

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Good morning.
Please forward all evidence on this matter & more to Bishop Buckley.
For contact details see the top right hand corner of this page.
Merci.

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Irish Bishops don’t give a damn about laity re Sunday ordinations BUT they still want yours-laity monies 🤷‍♀️. You can’t have it in both ways.
Its the limelight that some of these bishops want. An ego trip if you like. Ignore them if you will to make them look irrelevant.
A thought came into my mind yesterday that rcc isn’t normal, dysfunctional and whose (bishops, cardinals et al) actions spoke of duplicitous @ hypocrisy re double lives.
Found Ryan mc aleer incident story more disturbing re assault. That’s not what priests do.
Psych assessment might be needed although I’m not an expert. Alternatively, process him via Laciasation canon law procedure just like phonsie did to a priest.

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@7.40am re: MIA incident. Apparently a canonical trial took place. The details of which my brother is privvy to, and you wouldn’t believe the half of it.

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Anon at 2.30pm
Whats the result of that canonical trial?
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In the past, I made a mistake in reporting to rcc instead of proper authorities. My late parents made the same mistake that I did cos they thought rcc and their priests was holy, cannot tell lies and above reproach and honest etc etc. That’s was 70s and 80s before I did in 2000’s.
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Now my advice to you would be, keep in touch with PSNI re any developments if any. Document it everything even in the smallest detail if you can in the event that it might happen again.don’t ever inform rcc re your dealings with PSNI or lawyer. Keep rcc in the dark as possible cos you might gain a upper hand in the long runvre evidence, details so forth.
Best chance is through police route, get a lawyer if you can and go thru legal route (forget it re Canon law procedure cos its a laughing stock from what I heard).

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Why do only fools and horses work La la lala - la la la la la - Only Fools And Horses Special-The Jolly Boys’ Outin'- What can go wrong, will go wrong!says:

“Rodney – (On phone) Cass? You still there? Our coach has just blown up!
Harry (Bus Driver) looking aghast at his burning vehicle.
Del – (Spots Harry) Don’t worry, Harry, I won’t tell your guv’nor about it!”

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Do I take it that + Pat is going to attend Wilson’s ordination ? And hopefully register in person an objection on the part of many of us that Wilson is not fit for ordination ? If that is the case, then I admire his courage and determination, although I expect that there will be many there who will try to prevent him being present. Mind you, + Armagh could avoid all of this by having listened to the many voices that are telling him things that he evidently does not want to hear. He could have listened and then he could have delayed Wilson’s ordination while the whole thing was properly investigated, rather than pushing on regardless, mostly to show that he will not be pushed around by the likes of + Pat. Well, now he will be having a sleepless night worrying about what might happen in public at the ordination ceremony. I hope that + Pat will be successful. Remember, he has taken on smaller men than + Armagh in the past !

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9:32 make sure it’s bullet proof. Some of us don’t forget they have blood on their hands too.

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Mr. Wilson has security measures at his ordination to prevent the People of God enter a Church? Seriously?? Is this a first? What ‘hold’ has Mr. Wilson over individuals, I wonder.

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There was a security firm watching for me at King Puck Jones ordination in Kerry. They were supplied with pictures of me.

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Roman Catholic Church hirers Security Firms to prevent legitimate Objections at Sham Ordinations of deviant clergysays:

9:46 this Mafia of Bishops & Clergy forget to inform the sheep when fundraising that their hard earned pennies are spent hiring security firms at Roman Catholic Sham Ordinations to deter legitimate and well informed objections from members of the public and private citizens.

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Pat threatened to turn up for a Confirmation in Co. Derry. The PP was so afraid he had parishioners at the church gate standing guard to prevent Pat gaining access. The Archbishop didn’t even show in the end and the poor Monsignor of Beragh had to stand in. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is security tomorrow. If you are going to protest then don’t give Armagh the satisfaction of getting lifted by the polis.

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9:45 The RCC are control freaks one and all – they attempt to control everything & anything & anyone to further their own self interests that ultimately has nothing to do with God – he’s just the lure in the shop window to open the sheep wallets.

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10.12 the police would have no grounds to “lift” Bishop Pat Buckley nor anyone who decides to show up tomorrow as long as they are not acting in a threatening or antisocial manner. There will be a point in the Ordination ceremony where it may be appropriate to present evidence as to why the Ordinations should not go ahead just as in any wedding ceremony- free speech with evidence of the truth is not illegal and is a basic human right, but, of course, the Roman Church has demonstrated frequently its complete disregard for the human rights of anyone affected by the wrongdoings of their toxic cohort, so no doubt anyone objecting to the sham ordinations tomorrow may be a target for wrongful arrest on the orders of Archbishop Martin???

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9:17 Shame all these Bishops & their lay volunteers & professional associates aren’t so diligent about publicly identifying the locations and movements of their pervert priests that they collude to support by instead opting to harassing & villifying & discriminating against their victims & families via various means & repeatedly move deviant clergy around into unsuspecting communities around the world. Crooks & criminals worldwide in RCC. They have no right to cast any aspersions on Bishop Pat Buckley’s character or on the character of any private citizens they might identify from his Blog that they are targetting in their efforts to censor information going public about all manner of discrimination against private citizens and others victimised and discriminated against by Roman Catholic Church. Therefore, take note that Bishop Pat Buckley or anyone else does not need “Good Luck” to view the latest Hypocritical Roman Catholic Ordination of the Twin Pink Priest Event this weekend or any other weekend.

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11.42 Would not stop the police !!!! A lot of that shower do a lot of bad things. Hugh Quinn x Armagh priest is a PSNI officer. I know what the police are capable of; in Split, state employed thugs. Evil. In Dublin or various other locations, their pathologies are let run riot on the unsuspecting and the vulnerable. Check out what was said by a highly respected agency in reference to their appalling and brutal treatment of the Traveling Community. Like the RC clergy, not a lot of honour or integrity in that lot, the like of Drew Harris and others aside; trying to clean up the ” Filth.” The right one would indeed lift Bishop Buckley if the right noises were made from the right wrong desk to the wrong right desk. No doubt.

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Pat is of course, correct. County boundaries are not co-terminous with diocesan boundaries and I understand that Irish dioceses existed before the present counties were established.

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11:27 some Clergy, Guards, Doctors and the local professional classes & their so called private secretaries have been informally data sharing & breaching privacy rights for decades in their own interests, there will be more publicised consequences for this when Data Protection Laws are properly utilised by affected members of the public. Sharing photographs of parishioners & circulation of their car registration & personal details is the commonplace Practice of defensive deviants in authority. Since they registered parishes as charities, parishioners are asked for their Social Insurance Numbers to claim the tax back on their behalf for the church!

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I will be at the Ordination tomorrow and fully intend to stand up at the appropriate time to object. I just wish others will consider joining me. This is a public event in a public place sp no one should be turned away.

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What, exactly, has Wilson done? I read allegations and rumour here but something clear would be helpful to those who are not in the circle.

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10.58 That would not be good. No one deserves to be humiliated like that in front of so many people. No One. If its all true it should not be happening but the greater fault is not Wilsons. Its the bishop and what surrounds him. As a wise man once said to me when I raised shackles about Y; Bradley Cooper, sometimes the only solution to a problem is to ordain it. Public humiliation is not warranted, very wrong.

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Does this mean altars don’t have to be consecrated and does this mean Rome itself believes its own “communion ceremony” (the sole raison d’etre of priests) is not sacred? Is this confusing stance not of a piece with the Romans’ lack of prayer for the boys of the world in 1969? The war on boys is the same war as the war on women.

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Look at Phyliss – she pressed on with JP “Power Bottom” Lyttle’s ordination against advice and now looks like a silly old cow.

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10.59
I will be wearing a blonde wig, the very best of makeup, purple makeup ( a nod to the archiepiscopal stagnant colour), a long red dress of Lady GaGa theme with Christian Louboutin red high heels ( you do know they always have a red soul). Since theres no red in Armagh, I shall bring some. I like to dress up for Thordination.

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10.29
Ordinations are PUBLIC events for all to attend.
Invitations have been sent out to families and friends.
There is no massive security plan tomorrow it is a public events for two lads being ordained into the Roman Catholic Sacred Priesthood.

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@12.10
Bella I am quite well aware of the Diocesan structures of Holy Mother Church and well aware His Lordship Eamon Martin has the parishes of Crossmaglen, Cullyhanna, Dromintee, Jonesboro in the Newry area and do not forget the parish constantly mentioned on this blog Magherafelt is in County Derry.

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I don’t know. A solicitor would usually advise someone facing the charge of a sexual offence to elect a trial by jury in the crown court as there is more chance of an acquittal.

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9.43
Defence Solicitor Harry McCourt confirmed that he did not have any questions in relation to his client being charged with the offense.

District Judge Bernie Kelly

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10:55 Thank you for confirming details of Court Hearing of Fr Aidan McCann on Friday.

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Life beyong priesthood for you Father Mc Cann on the eve of another disaster. Its happened before PMCK.says:

9.43 Now that Aidan has had a traumatic maturing experience ( respectfully said I assure you), notwithstanding his outrageous behaviour and crime towards that particular woman, he should simply pack up and leave the clerical priestly world behind. That is what the universe is telling him. To stay with their system would be to further mangle the pathology that has caused this. Healing awaits Aidan if you disengage and reach for the pain of maturing which is not possible in the life you have so-far embraced. The camerawork outside the Irish College in Rome as you speak of your prayer life still sends a shiver through me, it was entirely false though you were not aware I am sure.

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11.04
Aidan has NO intention of leaving the Priesthood he wishes counselling if that is needed however he has said it is all a misunderstanding.
It will be up to the Archbishop what to do in the situation however if found guilty he will need to be dismissed from the clerical state.

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How can you misunderstand yourself into taking pictures of a woman in a women’s loo?

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Pat at 3:36 Older readers may remember Peter Wyngarde whose nickname was Petunia Winegum, although contrary to appearances he was an actor, not a priest. He had a ‘misunderstanding’ with a gentleman in a toilet in Gloucester. He’d used that excuse and when he got arrested for the same misunderstanding in Birmingham told police it was a ‘mental aberration’.
Persuading yourself it’s a misunderstanding is the easy bit. 😁

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3:36 Fr Aidan McCann misunderstood all right! He misunderstood that the public won’t tolerate any perverted or spiteful shit from priests & their catlicks any more. Those days are well gone. If he can’t take the heat, he needs to quit da kitchen. What Nasty and disrespectful clergy are left now in the bottom dregs of the Roman Church.

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9:43 any news on his victim from the shopping centre toilet? Is she ok?

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Fr. Perjurer: Most Reverend Father, holy mother Church asks you to ordain this man, our brother, for service as a priest.
Archbishop Amy: Do you judge him to be worthy?
Fr. Perjurer : After inquiry among the people of Christ and upon recommendation of those concerned with his training, I testify that he has been found worthy.
Bishop Pat Buckley: ???

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On how many altars has Big Mick Lomasaney desecrated In cloyne and elsewhere,we now know there is a nest of active homos among the clergy in cloyne, which the late Mick was part of.

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No Golde Croziers anymore unfortunately, its the stink of the sheep that determines whats precious now: the material used.says:

10.17 As I helped the Archbishop in the sacristy after a Confirmation ceremony he said to me in quite an annoyed tone ” You are putting them in the wrong socks.” I looked at him in wonderment , I did not have a clue what he was talking about. Seems what I would call sleeves turn out to be “socks.” I had unscrewed the three pieces of hish big ssstick and was putting them in their pouches, he was observing it and not best pleased that I was putting each piece in the wrong “sock.” For Fuck Sake!!!!! Jesus wept. He will again tomorrow and hopefully the socks will be in rainbow colours whatever about the undergarments which they may well cast lots for. Privately of course.

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10.14
If that’s true, and I don’t doubt you, it shows him up in a very clericalist light and he would lose much sympathy. And rightly so.

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These gossipy nasty priests joined to the hip at every social event with catlick married couples are swingers, going on for years, everyone knows it, even the Bishops – no wonder they so nasty attempting to distract and divert attention away from themselves.

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Google Coalisland parish website website for the crack.. huge congrats for the newly ordained padre/madre. Coming on an altar near you..

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Has Papal Nuncio, Archbishop Okolo, informed His Holiness, Pope Francis, of this developing situation? If not ; why not..?

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@ 10:30am

Don’t be ridiculous,of course he hasn’t, he wasn’t going to spoil it for you. He knew you’d be on to his humbleness right away. Who of course will take one look at the sender and delete it immediately.🙄

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Okolo despaired of the Irish Catholic Church, he’s too busy focusing on his new appointment to be bothered with any more of its rot and hypocrisy.

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Archbishop Okolo is too busy packing his bags to get out a sinking Ireland however they still reply to emails.

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10:37 there was a beehive in Bishop Fintans garden in that video, more like a hornets nest, a wonder he hadn’t Fr Ger & Fr Jerry & a few of the other reprobates buzzing about 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝

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Bishop Fintan Monahan @ funeral of Fr. Brendan Lawlor RIP:
“When I heard the sad news of the passing of Fr Brendan during the week, I was wondering if he had left instructions that I should be barred from the funeral today…[laughter]. He regarded me with the height of suspicion. He always thought that I was trying to do something unspeakable to curb his freedom…things like taking away the keys of his car or discouraging him from climbing on the steps here in the church or inquiring about home help or God forbid nursing home care [laughter]. https://fb.watch/dTLu8mIQ7t/

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I am off to the decent people with the honesty to publicly parade it as it really is, The Pride Parade in town today. Tomorrow is the sadness of dishonesty dressed up in celebration and jubilation. When people are laughing, they are really crying a lot of the time; the falsity of most laughter is an irritant, everyone has heard it.

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” You are a big fat Scottish homosexual.” ” I am not fat” said Cadoc in reply in the Ref in Maynooth in the 1980’s he was good and decent and still to the good as far as I know.

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Poor Cadoc Leighton O.Praem died a couple of years ago. He had returned from lecturing in Bilkent University to become a PP in Cornwall, where he was loved by parishoners. A good and clever man. RIP.

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Whatever about the misgivings or doubts that surround Priest to be, Wilson, surely the behaviour of bully boys on the blog today cannot be justified under any circumstances. I am not fully aware of any or all of the alleged accusations against Mr. Wilson but the outpouring of scorn against him is very immoral, unkind and unchristian. I cannot imagine the sense of anxiety and fear in his heart right now. I am completely baffled as to why there is such gleeful anticipation that the entire occasion will fail spectacularly and that this man will be publicly humiliated in front of family, relatives, friends and colleagues. It’s as if the Calvary cohort who pushed Jesus to the Cross and nailed him have resurrected and are determined to push Deacon Wilson into a deep black hole. Talk is very cheap from behind a laptop. Wonder though, will all these hidden, supposed great icons of virtue and heroism stand up in the Church tomorrow and express their objections, including Pat? Now this will require courage.

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10.18: You would say that, Pious Fool, wouldn’t you? Read the comments thus far today and tell me otherwise. What will you do tomorrow? Stand up and object? Or is it easier for you to be a Pious Laptop Bully? I thought so….11.03, likewise…tell us about your great moral courage…Bullies, all of you.

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LOL if you were really bothered about the Deacon’s anxiety why are you also encouraging people to raise objections at the ordination?
It’s interesting the way you’re talking about it as if it’s a bridezilla’s special day.
I would like to propose another neologism for the blog along the lines of cathbot: priestzilla or possibly ordinandzilla.

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‘Wonder though, will all these hidden, supposed great icons of virtue and heroism stand up in the Church tomorrow and express their objections, including Pat?’
If the comments are to be believed steps have been taken to prevent this happening and Pat has written to the archbishop already.
Are you
a) Stupid?
b) A cathbot?
c) Both?

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@11.15am If security steps have been taken as you say then why are they shitting themselves?

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@ 10;57am
After telling us that the smoke of Satan had entered the Holy Church it’s a pity he didn’t have the courage to do anything about it. Just look what that oul melt bequeathed us .🙄

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Bishop Buckley,

This coming week one of our prominent Scottish daisy chain members, Deacon Christopher Morris, will be ordained at Motherwell Cathedral amidst tight security in anticipation of your presence!​

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I do not own one, but I do can provide you with a very nice one, at any time, minus galway races week.

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Wicked Drennan bullied Ciaran Woods ( a really nice guy), a hellicpoter to hell for Drennan soonsays:

10.09 The ever falsely humble x bishop of Galway can get you one!!!! He used one so urgent was the evangelisation. I hope its not rusting/oxidising like he is.

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Oh yes, of course. He is their poster boy. It will be a celebration of all that’s 🏳️‍🌈 Oscott will be camping it up with the Gay Scotts,

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11.02
This coming week are you not sure yet you state the security ops “tight security” lol
Thursday @ 7pm Our Lady of |Good Aid cathedral Motherwell.
Also Thursday is a Holyday obligation the Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul also the new Archbishops will obtain their Palliums from Pope Francis.
It is a Church not a pub or club needing security.

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Bishop Pat, I hope our friends in Church Militant, The Pillar, Complicit Clergy, Lifesite news, Ewtn, etc, don’t get wind of tomorrows ordination. I mean to say, we don’t want them playing peekaboo on the Cathedral webcam, do we.

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From what I can glean from this blog, it appears that Wilson had some intimate connection with the incident on the altar at Kildorrey. If there is even the faintest glimmer of truth in that then + Amy must not ordain him until such time as the whole matter has been properly investigated and the young man is assessed afresh, and at the very least put through some rather rigorous retraining. To ordain a man who has taken part in the desecration of an altar is an abomination. It seems to me that + Amy has just blithely ignored all the evidence and gone ahead out of arrogance and because he is unwilling to accept anything that + Pat might have as evidence. And if Wilson has anything about him, then he needs to withdraw himself from his planned ordination and show some humility and respect for the legitimate concerns of many people about him being ordained. Until he and + Amy show any willingness to deal with this matter, he will forever be seen as suspect and his ordination will be seen as something that has a whiff of illegitimacy about it. He will never get away from this. If he had any sense he would pause now before it is too late, If. he did so, and addressed the issues that are outstanding, and was seen to sincerely confront these issues, then maybe, just maybe, in the future he could be ordained because he would be seen to be truly penitent and to have done his best to reform and convert. He is treading a very dangerous path for his future, I am afraid, and he should think very carefully about it.

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Sorry, but If he desecrated the altar he violated all that is holy. I can’t see how such a man could ever be ordained.

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2:54 the bigger question is why would he even want to be ordained as a Roman Catholic priest, is it not a bit like a lay person being addicted to bigamy.

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We can only hope these two young gentlemen (of the backdoor, presumably) do not let Fräulein Amy down as the others have.

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8.28 A really good question. The Zeitgeist to any man is surely an indication of how warped such a choice is, a really good question.

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Br Billy Ryan retired from Charleville CBS Primary School on Thursday – for the first time in 156 years, there will be no Christian Brother teaching in Charleville.
Two full-time Christian Brothers remain teaching in Ireland:
Br Eamon Kinsella, Enniscorthy and
Br. Donal Healy, Ennis.

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Someone says an appointment to a Falls Road college is in store for an above cleric? Can anyone confirm or deny? (And alert its principal too).

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My son is due to start, along with his best friend in a grammar school in Co. Tyrone, which on closer inspection has developed very close links to universities linked with one of the clerics you mention above Pat. As a mother I am not comfortable with this at all. Is there any way to voice concern?

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I have to agree Pat, the days of clerics and schools seems to be rapidly declining. As I do think parents are not inclined for a school that has those ‘morals? Correct me if I’m wrong

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If the accusations on this blog are correct about Stephen Wilson and the altar then I think the only way Archbishop Martin is ordaining him tomorrow is that Stephen is playing the victim and sadly there is no one here to say otherwise.
It is very sad if Stephen is doing that.

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4.53
Well aware of the allegations and well aware what Ara Coeli thinks about it.
God Bless you in your horrible ways of thinking Thank God for a merciful judge on your Judgement day.

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The author Gregory DiPippo is their liturgist of sorts and like nearly all of them (say, PrayTell) prefers to be a snide or bitchy to debating, so jeering someone over a typo or grammar and not answer the point (on Facebook, no longer on it). Probably considers holy whoopsie Kirby to be a victim of a no mark meanie like our +Pat, and so had to make this clear in a sentence.

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The usual return on investment for young priests is 5 years, ie they minister for five years before discovering themselves and leaving/going MIA. This is a poor return for 6 or 7 years of formation at a cost of around £300k. Can they not be encouraged to discover themselves before ordination and thus avoid all the heartache?

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Yes. Sit a Grindr module at Maynooth in first year. If they pass, boot them out. Problem is there will always be those who like above, slip through the net. By the way Pat, the Grindr priest above, is only one of a list. We have our own Rasputin in Tyrone 😱 you may know already 🤣

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In the 1980s, Fr Frank Duhig, the respected Junior Dean of Maynooth, used to directly ask seminarians if they were gay, if he thought that they might be gay. If they said “yes” (and some did tell the truth) they were asked to leave.

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5:18 Way to ensure the priesthood is closeted, in denial, confused, immature, ambivalent and dishonest!
Experts in humanity my arse.

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You folks in Ireland get your training paid for by the church? What a racket! A five year exchange is quite reasonable, ten would be better.

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5.18 They used to say Duhig was so butch, you could hear his balls rattling when he was walking the square. Never fooled me, he had a keen eye.

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10.24
According to his pic on the Limerick diocesan website he has aged and mellowed. What kind of formation except for marshalling the troops was possible in those halcyon days of the 1980s when God was in his heaven, Tom in Mary’s, Niall in New House and Frank in Junior, each looking after in excess of 100 seminarians! To be alive then was wonderful, and to be young was heaven! Some of the happiest years of life.

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3.23 they are not encouraged to be honest with themselves or with anyone else. The main requirement is that they can prove their worth as coverup merchants just as Fr Ger Fitzgerald, Ennis Parish did in his newspaper interview when queries raised about his College, Maynooth AKA Gaynooth. He overestimated Fintan Monahans power to keep in his office when he arrogantly pursued and abused female parishioners in Killaloe Diocese.

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The college on the grounds of Cistercian Abbey Roscrea need to examine their safeguarding policy. It appears a disgraced former abbot has been supervising state exams. Were the board of governors informed of this? Did the chairman know? The chairman is a partner of a recruitment agency in Dublin. Outrageous this was allowed happen.

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4.10/ 4.49 – if you go back to the original comment and read it again you might think in future before jumping to all the wrong conclusions. It could only be you and you alone.

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I suspect the person was considering Purcell’s history in the college and the episode in the kitchen with the priest.

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Assuming you mean Dick Purcell I have news for you. Assuming he’s had all the clearances and checks there is nothing that would stop him working with children or vulnerable adults.
Consensual gay sex is legal and any problems with it are in your own bigoted head.
All you’ve proved is you don’t understand safeguarding.

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5:35 Abbott Richard “Rawhide” Purcell is a Roman Catholic clergyman. You have just reconfirmed the already well known fact that he is engaging in consensual gay sex and related activities with persons inside and outside the current RCC. On yar bike!

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Do not forget Purcell is best friends the principal and the principal’s rotund sidekick.

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Some of the most powerful and influential professionals in Ireland and beyond are former Cistercian Roscrea students, the old boys network strikes again.

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4:49pm Chairman of a recruitment agency on Cistercians Board, that figures!! Just look at HSE and other public bodies who spend millions every year on recruitment agencies & also on laboratory outsourcing fees etc., to use them as middlemen to avoid lawsuits as onus on third party contractors to verify qualifications – it clearly doesn’t work given the massive cock ups and devastating human consequences suffered by Vicky Phelan and so many others. It’s never about Safeguarding, it’s always about covering their own butts in the RCC or HSE, TUSLA Social Workers & to hell with the end user whether it be the kids exposed to abusers in schools or foster homes, or patients in hospitals given shoddy care.
They make sure their own butts are covered (excuse the pun!) & carry on regardless.

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The wounded healer Brady keeps turning up like a bad Cavan smell in Armagh. Last week he muscled in on Mgr Raymond Murray’s ordination anniversary. He wasn’t wanted there but the arrogance took over. Eamon hates him overshadowing him.

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The Wounded Wounded has a neck as hard and thick as solidified butter milk, the liquid at the bottom is a lot more pungent than the smell of the sheep’s dag.

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@5.12pm Cardinal Sean turned up out of respect for Monsignor Murray you arrogant shit. He will be at the ordinations tomorrow as he is still Primate of all Ireland

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You are correct. However, surely it is fine for the cardinal to attend a funeral land pay his respects to the monsignor. It would also be fine for the cardinal or any other cleric to attend your funeral. There are times when bitter hatred and grudges should be put to one side. It is the Christian thing to do.
Pax
Garngad Lad

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Brady is still Cardinal and Eamon hates that fact. Pope Francis has passed Martin over thanks to Okolo who has shafted Eamon to Rome before his departure. Fact.

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@6:41pm
Let her have it Patsy, she is so arrogant thinks she knows everything and unless it’s on google she knows nothing. Not to know that Armagh takes precedence over Dublin is desperate.

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6.40pm Go on Father Nasty, let it all out – By God but this blog is an education on what foul mouth & bad minded articles you priests & your volunteer catlicks are.

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6.56pm oh, contrary Mary how wrong you are – I am no more a priest than you are a nun. But you hit the nail on the head, this blog is full of foul mouthed and bad minded vindictive people and they are NOT priests they are very much people well known here.

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@6.56 yes, very self-important teams of arrogant bullies very well known in local communities who get their sick & twisted kicks from aiding & abetting all manner of wrong doing.

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I understand the allegations (well that’s what I know them as) against Mr Wilson. Bad move ordaining him tomorrow.
HOWEVER, the other man is a good man. Why should his Ordination be ruined by the actions of a few people attending with the sole intention of causing trouble? Better idea would be to picket Ara Coeli and take it right to the Archbishop’s door. No escaping it there

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Seriously, one has never been “a priest for ever”. Ex priest is usually a nice enough entry on the CV (no irony). This is amends to him for being obliged to witness what was done by Irish church authorities to those who fled to English seminaries. With his glasses on he looks a nice rural dean or vicar for evangelisation.

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I hope Wilson gets a good night’s sleep for the big day. I doubt he has remorse over Kevin Connolly 💔

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https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-americas/2022/06/jailed-argentine-bishops-lawyer-sent-by-vatican-to-investigate-priests-of-his-diocese
Jailed Argentine bishop’s lawyer sent by Vatican to investigate priests of his diocese
By Inés San Martín Jun 24, 2022.
” ROME – The case of an Argentine bishop currently serving a prison sentence of four years and six months for abuse took an unexpected turn this week, when his canon lawyer was sent to investigate the priests and seminarians of his diocese.On Thursday, several Argentine outlets reported that Spanish canon lawyer Javier Belda Iniesta, who defended Bishop Gustavo Zanchetta during his ecclesiastical trial- a secret process, the results of which have never been revealed – is now in Oran investigating the priests, deacons and seminarians who testified in the civil trial against the bishop.”

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10.06pm to be a bona fide member of Roman Catholic Church one must accept that whether they fully realise it or not they are now complicit and financially and morally supportive of paedophiles, paedophile protectors and all manner of fraudsters, crooks and white collar criminals worldwide.

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8:56 These things are the defining characteristics of Roman Catholicism now rather than the things that used to define it like no harvest festival, kneelers instead of hassocks, etc. I can’t think why they changed!

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I will be in the back carpark at Armagh Cathedral tomorrow with a megaphone in hand at 2.30pm. Please join me to peacefully protest.

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Peaceful protestets do not get prosecuted @ 10.53pm. The fool wont be me according to you but the fool will be a man with a fuuny hat on his head in Armagh today at 3pm.

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10:53 even if you not prosecuted, you and your family will most certainly be persecuted by the local catlicks for all eternity. The cabal 🤮😇

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Please don’t, Stephen Wilson has asked the PSNI Community team in Armagh to be ready for possible minior civil unrest.

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8:05 the PSNI should focus on supporting victims of RCC related fraud and all manner of antisocial behaviour and abuse from clergy & church volunteers in the community. If the PSNI plus private security firms are photographed this afternoon, this will provide further evidence of the abuse of power that emenates from Roman Catholic Church hierarchy and from the top down – Pope to Sacristan.

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While I would personally love church events to be interrupted by rioting I think civil unrest is your being slightly dramatic.
Given the church’s history of hiring security with Pat Buckley’s picture and the simple fact that there is NO such thing as a good priest my money is on the ordination passing without event.
You all kept silent and hid so that you wouldn’t see or have to deal with child abuse and this ordination will be no different.

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Shut up @8.05am. You are jumping on the bandwagon. See you at 2.30pm if you have any balls.

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9.53
Well done if you have the guts to object as all Eamon will say your comments have been noted but he will be very embarrassed.
There is No security or PSNI.

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Tomorrow is a sad day for the Archdiocese of Armagh. Ceremony and grandeur will be used as a facade for another addition to a disgraceful diocese. Whether there be unseemly allegations, Grindr history or openly gay active clergy, shame upon the leadership in Armagh for adding fuel to the fire.
Slowy slowly catchy monkey Pat. If you sit on the riverbank long enough…your enemies will eventually float by.

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Great to see Roe v Wade struck down on the feast of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus. Look at how the pro choice murderers are squealing today.

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Rcc oppressed a lot of gay and lesbian society re their Catholic statement in the past. Many were forced to leave rcc or denied their right to marry in church and Now, all of a sudden, rcc are welcoming them into their arms after all these years, what gives?
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Rcc oppressed a lot of women re their bodies, refused to ordain women priests, the issue of celibacy to avoid women claims on rcc properties which were funded by the laity themselves as its tax free. Rcc is a misygonic organisation with such examples of homosexuality at the highest levels in the Vatican. Sodano, farrell, mc Carrick et al. Its sort of ‘anti woman’ Church whose majority, regular mass goers were lots of women. This is something that I dont get it.
Rcc used to be anti disability organisation as they usually have negative views of people with disabilities. They once said to us in cabra, u can’t become a doctor or an engineer or an architect. To my eyes rcc was seen as anti progressive organisation. They campaigned hard for a oral language in deaf education, that is alien to our sense of language. Oral language is English with oral approach of teaching as they don’t get it re deaf people don’t have perfect speech. Mother language is always sign language before English. They became experts in deaf education just an anology teaching the blind how to walk unaided, teaching the deaf to hear (which was and is impossible). Such was their deluded or grandiose aspirations in rcc that time.
That’s their method of oppression as they did it again to certain native community in Canada whose visceral response was to burned down rcc churches.
Its all about money at the end of day as they Bishop of Dublin owned deaf village in cabra. I never set my foot there cos a friend I knew, emigrated to America said to me one day, far too many cctvs there,dont go there as there was/ is no privacy when it comes to any sign language that’s quite visual. He was warned by deaf village board and barred from entering it. Its board of directors stuffed with hearies who don’t have a foggiest clue about deaf culture with rcc reps. That very same board who got embroiled over huge expenses scandal with a bottle of wine costing 10k and got their names splashed over the papers. That guy who was involved in red Cross charity I think. Governance was the key issue there that rcc was quite poor at.
Rcc is in fact a quite oppressive organisation, it ranges from Spanish inquisition, burning of heretical women at stake, banning galileo for his scientific views, banning deaf people to become a professional occupation. That’s largely relevant here in Ireland cos they had influenced the govt of the day whose attitudes persists to this day. Rcc should be restricted to purely religious matters, not schools or any other areas outside of their religion such as hospitals, disabilities centres( cos its money spinner exercise plus their cosseted status as a tax free income.).
Why pay a full attention to today ordination given the fact that rcc is a largely oppressive, and repressive organisation as well which doesn’t make any sense. I have no interest in going there if I was invited. Its pointless. The surest way is to make them look ridicule and irrelevancy.
I never paid heed to saul alinsky until today re his comment :
Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage. – Saul Alinsky

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Mick Lynch of the RMT called Boris Johnson “unembarrassable”. Frau Amy has fallen into this state too along with Frau Phonsie, Frau Deenihan, and Fräulein Coffey. All are unembarrassables.

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7:05 as long as the sheep keep donating , they don’t give a damn. They are also sitting on billions of euro worth of property to boot and they and their influential friends with benefits look after each other very well. It’s a water tight arrangement. Or, is it? Time will tell.

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Das Fonzie needs to have another word with himself followed by belting a number of colleagues with his Crozier.

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12.25 Bishop Phonsie Cullinan is another bad tempered, highly opinionated and extremely spiteful cleric not to mention his colleagues & their so called voluntary cohorts.

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ROSA BUS
Dom Elijah: Hello driver. Do you go all the way?
Dom Purcell: Oh, yes, I go all the way, alright.

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12.27 Not a hope, Doll, it’s Sunday night, cheap chips night in Limerick, he’d never have made it back on time on his provisional bus licence 🍟 🚌

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A thought for Amy Martin, Rawhide Purcell, Iced Coffey, Luggs Monahan, Roscrea Cistercians & Co on the latest pending act of RCC hypocrisy taking place later today & on the hypocrisy that takes place 24/7 in the Roman Catholic Church:

“Rather fail with honour than succeed by fraud”

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I hope that those who attend mass this morning in Cistercian Abbey Roscrea pray for the Cistercian monks to find their true path and pray that the monks will stop their toxic actions in treating their employees so badly. Christianity has lost its way in Roscrea. The superior Malachy needs help as he is out of his depth.

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ROSCREA MONASTERY – WINE AT € 75 a bottle

The Monks in Roscrea are money hungry. Malachy enjoys the finer things in life. Malachy spent years creating an image based on the ‘working class Dub’ from Finglas. He now orders wine that costs €75 a bottle. The college is being mismanaged and it’s about time the Dept of Education audited the college accounts. It’s hard to see how an invoice from a wine distributor should be classified as ‘staff expenses’.

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8:43 they also enjoy “perks” from affluent and influential former alumni.

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I see the Roscrea Cistercians continue to court controversy. When you see that the school board is stuffed with past pupils such as Conor Brady who was Irish Times editor and Garda ombudsman I cannot understand how these men stay on a board when such mismanagement is going on. I know some past pupils left the board 2 or 3 years ago as there was a big argument about the financial management of the school. Those departing are only replaced by more naive past pupils. It is the same cycle every 2-3 years. I left Cistercian College in 1987. It was the same back then but their was a strong abbot who took responsibility. Now a board of governors made up of mainly lay people are landed with all the trouble and the abbey hide behind them. We all know where the real decisions are being made. It is inside the abbey walls.

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This comment tells a lot:

“Resignations: Both Pat O Sullivan and Andrew Cody have resigned from the BoM. Both the Chairman Ronnie Culliton and the Fr Malachy on behalf of the trustees expressed regret at these resignations and thanked both for their valuable contributions to the CCR.”

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10.11 those types on Boards do a disappearing act when they know the shit is about to hit the fan. No fools are they.

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And Ronnie Culliton was shafted off the board as chairman last year to be replaced by another past pupil. The lifecycle of competent people in Roscrea is 2-5 years, then they get sense and realise the monks are impossible to deal with. Anyone who lasts longer than five years are either clueless, spineless or both.

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Ronnie Culliton Is a chartered accountant and a financial advisor. He had to depart as the central bank would have an issue when the financial stuff comes out. He was the one who Richard Purcell made go to the past pupils to commit money. I’m a past pupil, the pressure put on us at the time was very intense. Ronnie made clear that he was asking on the abbot’s behalf. Purcell was determined to get the money in, I do not know what happened it. It is all very strange.

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12.26 anyone who lasts on Cistercians Board longer than five years is complicit in what is going on there.

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It is quite possible that webcam in Armagh will be switched off today, at the request of a primary education advisor 😬

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10.56: Pat, which pillar are you hiding behind? Have you brought your mobile phone and your own bouncers?? This is all so, so wrong.

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The Bus with No Name hurtles on through the countryside. By now it must be full to capacity, overflowing like an Indian communter bus…they’re everywhere, making their way to Mecca in Armagh. We certainly cannot doubt the urgency of their mission, all full of good will, prayers and best wishes, all laden down with gifts a plenty. Dear God or Allah or Jehovah, take care of the men who desire to serve you. Will you be their strength today? St. Paul’s 2nd Reading today is very apt.

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11.51
Pat will be sitting in Larne in tears of sadness however someday most likely his tears will turn to joy.
If Archbishop Eamon Martin makes a mistake both him and Stephen will be removed.

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Let the ordination proceed as it would make them look ridiculous re homosexual parade like I saw a photo in Martel book.
Ridicule and irrelevancy is the weapon that should be used today.
Its like ‘meh ‘re ordination re people reactions so that rcc can’t be taken seriously in the their minds. 😉😁

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How long do these hierarchs think this total complete and utter nonsense can continue before the wheels completely fall off the hierarchical wagon?

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The Orchard county’s cheeky chaps were causing trouble in Croke Park.
Rain. Penalties. Galway’s day. Penance for Armagh. The cheeky chaps might have to go for confession. They might have served their penance already.

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Seamus viii at 4.38pm

Tribes deserved to win. Plenty of drama there until AET.

Next is CIARRAI v Mhaigh Eo

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DG 4:01,
Maith an buachaill! Tá an ceart agat. Galway were very skillful. The goals for Armagh were like manna from heaven. It would have been a travesty if the cheeky chaps from Armagh were successful. Lá Gallimh an lá seo. Tá an Árd Mhacha ag dul abhaile. Tá brón orthu.

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Kenny Hall was mentioned earlier as attending the ordinations in Armagh today. Why would the Church of Ireland minister from Enniskillen be at ordinations in Armagh? He is quite friendly with the Catholic clergy in Enniskillen but can’t understand why he would be in Armagh today.

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I just got manhandled out of the car park at the back of Armagh. They said they would call the police if I didn’t leave. Classic

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2.35
Phone the Police yourself for assault if you were manhandled as the PSNI have a duty to protect you.
I hope you at least asked their names anyhow it will all be on CCTV.
Somehow I do not think you were anywhere near Saint Patrick’s Cathedral.
What is wrong Bishop Pat was not with you or is that just on the streets of Larne.

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3.02 they’d better take a more realistic look at their own associations, that might explain the big itch they have for asking impertinent questions, sleep with dogs & you catch fleas & all that…..

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3.14 it won’t be that simple, believe me. Some of us know our worth.

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THANKS BE TO GOD NO LACE !!!
They are getting the message loud and clear leave grandma’s lace in the draw.

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3.32
But Bela, if you witnessed a Tridentine ordination would you be able to differentiate the form from the matter? What’s the fascination with Latin? Would you be able to identify the anamnesis and the epiclesis? Unlikely.

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Archbishop Martin has quite an interesting character of priests. +Pat could just write about them, as they make more than enough scandal, whether defiling an altar or the public master debater.

@03:32 the Paul VI ordinal in respect of the form, which Pius XII declared necessary to make a priest, differs only by one or two (ut / so that). Sedes generally hold that the loss or ‘ut’ introduces doubt, but that’s frankly unreasonable. The PVI rite raising a man to the fullness of the priesthood, that is, consecration, could be better, but any possible shortfall is insufficient to doubt the rite for it includes all needed elements in fairly clear words. St Hippolytus likely had nothing to do with the Egyptian prototype for it. If only the reformers heeded how Egyptian Copts stick close to their ancient liturgical language.

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5.24
It’s inaccurate to speak of Hippolytus’ text having an Egyptian (i.e. Coptic) prototype since no such formulation which predates the former has been identified.

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7.59
Then it isn’t, necessarily, inaccurate. Is it?
Your statement suggests that no such prototype exists. There is absolutely no evidential ground for such a claim.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence: of ( in this case) non-existence.
You need a refresher course in basic philosophical logic. Extra-mural classes in Existentialism would prove useful as well.

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10.59
The alternative is the so-called argument from silence which is ipso facto an unsteady basis on which to construct an argument.
Your verbose verbal gymnastics, on the other hand, which does not grapple with the precise issue, is what’s called a circular argument of the type engaged in by First Philosophy neophytes.

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@ 3:51pm
That’s what you think, nobody’s listening to Granny Fanny. Sicily is awash with lace even more, since the insulting oul crone made her demented remarks.🤣🤣🤣

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@ 4:10pm

I’ve witnessed Many Tridentine Ordinations and I know that the matter form and intention as the Church requires is present. Wouldn’t be sure any of these are present at the Novus Ordo I prefer the Latin liturgy and have no bother following it thank you very much.☺

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5.36
If you deny that these are present in the liturgy as reformed according to the Second Vatican Council you are not a Roman Catholic. The Latin language is not the issue, though I suspect it’s not your forte.

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So Wilson has conned his way into the priesthood, but it won’t be long until his deception is revealed, and Amy will face complete humiliation.

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@ 7:49pm

Have you forgotten like the rest of you lot that the Second Vatican Council declared that LATIN is and was to remain the PRIMARY language of The Catholic Church. Yes I thought so!😏

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7.42
No. That point has not been forgotten.
But perhaps you have forgotten that the experience of the vast majority of Council Fathers of the vernacular when they returned home brought its own momentum for change which was almost universal and which becamed incarnated in the post-conciliar commissions.

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How did the pink ordinations go? God be with the days when bishops tried to have the ordinations on holy days like Pentecost and Trinity Sundays. Now it’s all trying to squeeze them into gay pride week festivities…

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6.34
Since the Second Vatican Council the liturgical sense is not to have ritual Masses such as ordinations on major liturgical feasts like the two mentioned here. Instead, the liturgies of those feasts and solemnities should be celebrated. The late great Patrick McGoldrick of Maynooth made this point ever year towards the end of his course on liturgy with First Divinity.

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Patrick McGoldrick was a wonderful man, he was a peritus at VII, and was one of the nicest priests in Maynooth in my time.

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There’s a mismatch between people’s expectations of seminarians and contemporary reality. In a nutshell it’s that many expect seminarians of 2020’s to have lived like their counterparts of 1960’s. This is unrealistic and counterproductive. The majority of 21st century seminarians will not be school leavers. They will have had jobs, careers, salaries, independence, experience of other cultures. They will have grown up in a highly sexualised social environment where teenagers are engaging in sexual activity at increasingly younger ages, where the link between such activity and procreation is weaker than ever before.
It’s extremely unwise to expect such socials conditions are not going to influence any candidate for seminary in the 2020’s. In short people are setting expectations for seminarians today that they themselves or their children would struggle to live up to.

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7.44 we don’t expect them to target parishioners for money & sex or to spy on women & take photos of them in public toilets or using the church altar at night for sex orgies with other clerics & weirdo church volunteers – late vocations my arse, these are misfits too lazy and bad assed to stay on in the real world so they view the RCC as a handy place to park their dishonest, lazy butts & the hierarchy facilitate them & vilify anyone that speaks out about any RCC related rot.

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7.46
It might be worth your while to read the Confessions of Saint Augustine, though judging by your uncooth output it would be reasonable to assume you’d be wasting your time.

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I imagine many will enter training after being rejected mainly by other men or, like Frau Amy’s own admission, unrequired love.

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No Christian can live by the world’s standard of sexuality.
This comment is the standard clerical justification for ignoring their obligations.

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https://cruxnow.com/cns/2022/06/priest-church-needs-to-emphasize-pastoral-work-with-sex-abuse-survivors
Priest: Church needs to emphasize pastoral work with sex abuse survivors
By Rhina Guidos Jun 26, 2022.
“WASHINGTON, D.C. — Each year the U.S. Catholic Church unveils its annual report on what it’s doing to prevent abuse of minors by clergy and other church workers.
What it also should tell church members is what’s being done, particularly by bishops, to help those suffering after the abuse, said a priest who works with survivors and perpetrators.”..“If we need to be a bankrupt church, then so be it. What amount of money gives back the innocence of a child who’s been raped?” he asked. “What amount of money?”

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8:22pm All the evidence confirms that many Bishops don’t appear to be invested in genuinely helping anyone affected by church related abuse. What they do appear to be invested in is victim blaming, gaslighting and villifying victims & survivors who speak out. The narrative from both lay & ordained representatives of the RCC on this blog and elsewhere confirm this fact.

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