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GOD WAS “WEAPONISED” BY PRIESTS TO SILENCE VICTIMS AND JUSTIFY ABUSE.

Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry report finds priests ‘weaponised’ god to justify abuse of children

God was “weaponised” by priests to help silence their victims and justify their abuse, an inquiry report has found.

A report into the psychology of people who abuse children was released by the Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry on Wednesday, with its roundtable experts finding abusers from religious settings “had the capacity for self-delusion, engaging in thinking that was illogical” and that some “handed the moral responsibility for the abuse back to God”.

The 33-page report said it may have been easier for those from religious settings to abuse because of them being able to take advantage of the habitual deference offered to them.

Abusers could rely on being in high regard, using that as a way to silence children, and may have even allowed the abuser to think he had the permission to abuse children and “act with impunity”.

The expert panel told inquiry chairwoman Lady Smith that God was “weaponised” and the Catholic Church “reinforced that sense of permission to abuse children”.

PAT SAYS

One of the things that make RCC corruption and abuse so satanic is that they claim to be God’s reps on earth and do EVERYTHING in the name of God.

I once dealt with a very unhappily married woman who had talked to a religious order priest about her marriage problems.

He used her unhappy situation to lure her into a sexual relationship with him.

On one occasion he persuaded her to lay naked on an altar and said Mass over her naked body.

He then consecrated her to be his “spiritual servant” with who he could have sex so that he could have the strength to serve God through the priesthood.

This of course was totally twisted and weird.

As God’s priest servant he felt he gad a God given right to use this woman as he saw fit.

The priest was also, at the time, in a sexual relationship with two other women – a widow and a Belfast nun

The RCC and its bishops and priests have been weaponising God for their own ends for at least 1500 years.

Quite Satanic really.

150 replies on “GOD WAS “WEAPONISED” BY PRIESTS TO SILENCE VICTIMS AND JUSTIFY ABUSE.”

The RCC weaponise and use God on a daily basis. The Roman collar makes them feel that they are supernatural beings and exempt from observing the normal rules of society including the law. It has been instilled into them that they are all powerful. They have become Demi Gods and can do what they want so long as the rest of us hoi polloi do not. God,fir them,is a means to an end. Preach the message and keep the coffers flowing into their organisation . It is all one big scam. At a time when HMRC are pursuing scammers,they would do well to look at the RCC who are the no 1 professional scam organisation going

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10.13 and “therein” lies the “root” of why they are such a “dangerous organisation”. Keep Safe Folks ❤️

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9.12 why would he be booted out, none of his colleagues were, if they changed tack & booted him out, he might spill the beans on the rest of them.

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Pat, more horrendous stories of the machinations, mind set and moral duplicity of church leadership regarding clerical abuse. For 30 years or more since the publication of reports about Diocesan clerical abuses, the abuse is still present in the stories of many who have yet to reveal their torments. It can only be hoped that the exposing of their stories can and will happen. Only when ALL tell of their experiences will there ever be some hope of healing. The spiritual and psychological games played by clerical abusers is reprehensible because when any abused person was threatened by God or told to keep silent, a weapon of fear, guilt and shame strikes deep into our psyche and sticks like glue. I speak as one who was abused and for a long time I was ashamed that if I said something to anyone, this neighbour would be ruined. Yet, I carried that guilt for years. Abusers are crafty manipulators and are very devious. I only wish that the church leadership en masse would openly and honestly admit its egregious moral harm and abuse done to so, so many and seek forgiveness but more importantly – in the name of Jesus Christ – compensate justly all who continue to hurt. The stories of any abuse committed by Church personnel will never bevfirgotten and for that reason the church as an institution will probably never regain the trust of people again.

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10.05: Not true: You students from
Maynooth weaponised each other sexually. God had nothing to do with your deviant behaviour. You snowflakes.

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That’s why they start ranting about abuse being weaponised when comments on here don’t let them forget it.

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I wonder though Pat, was it a case of a perverse priest and a woman with serious mental health issues? That scenario is pretty messed up. Enjoy the lovely weather.

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RCC members weaponise women & children as a matter of course. Just look at their track record. Blood on their hands still dripping. Gross.

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People called Maire weaponise women & children as a matter of course. Just look at their track record. Blood on their hands still dripping. Gross.

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I love it when the cathbots try to reverse things people say about their cult. It’s the sure sign there is no justification left for them, as indeed there isn’t.

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Anglicans and social workers weaponise women & children as a matter of course. Just look at their track record. Blood on their hands still dripping. Gross.

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What would the clergy & co do without your blog, Bishop Buckley – on here day after day spoiling for more avenues & opportunities to re-abuse their victims & survivors. Clearly addicted & that job they spend so much on here monitoring for the RCC must pay very well indeed, otherwise, why would the truth bother them. Selective conscience.

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The weaponising of God for quasi-spiritual or religious ends goes back much further than 1500 years: read Paul carefully, and find in his controlling missives a very early example of this form of personal and hierarchical abuse. Paul demands deference, not to God, but to his ‘vision’ of communal cohesion and growth.

Paul’s personal psychology through moral governance ( charming, then threatening with damnation those who deviate from his moral proscriptions) was arguably the prototype for episcopal behaviour and governance in the future church.

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Fr Christopher Morris – newly ordained for Motherwell Diocese, he will celebrate Mass for us this weekend and impart his first blessings.
Interesting that he should go to visit Fr Aaron Spinelli in Horsham. I wonder what they have in common?

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Don’t you hate when those who were part of the inner circle start blabbing! See how these priests love one another.

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11.18
It is called Brotherhood and Friends maybe something you lack.
Or maybe you are one of the rejected from the Sacred Priesthood

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What’s “sacred” about the priesthood these days? Blowjobs on the altar, peering over women’s toilet cubicles to spy on them, bashing your bishop in a public car park in front of women and children….

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I think the pandemic deprived many priests of the opportunity to attend presbytery dinner parties or to loiter around seminaries, and so they come on here now for virtual gossipping. They should return to the dinner parties as that is the proper forum for exchanging clerical gossip. Only a few selected chosen lay people are permitted to participate, and ideally, they should fund the parties.

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My God I wouldn’t be in a room with a Catholic priest – they just can’t be trusted.
I certainly would advise against sharing anything of a personal nature with them – they will use it against you and manipulate you.
I know priests who flout the confessional all day long – the notion of confidentiality is a myth.
They are gossips and constantly disclose and violate the sacredness of the confessional.

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Absolutely, at clerical dinner parties, when the red wine is flowing they divulge all sorts of things among themselves. They love salacious stories – one priest used to frequently tell the story of a penitent and his unnatural acts with a defrosted chicken.

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11.25: You, gobshite always seem to know everything about priests. Your story abiut priests flouting the confessiinal is a big, big LIE. Get a grip on your nonsense. You are the proverbial lying gossiper. A creep.

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So disregarding the seal of the confessional is a big no-no, but sexually interfering with kids is not as grave? Twisted and typical RC logic.

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I remember when nobody thought a priest could rape a child. Your moral high ground has been washed away….by the very clergy you’re trying to support.

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11:41, I am 11:44 and it is always nice to see how more and more people are seeing the reality! They don’t have any comeback to our point, at least not without dealing with their abuse in a way consistent with the gospel they preach, and that is exactly what they’re not prepared to do.

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He is just a friend of Fr Aaron – so what? ‘Reverend Christopher Morris – a good friend of mine who has been a visitor to St John’s will be ordained a Priest on Thursday 30th June at 6:30pm in Motherwell Cathedral. Keep Chris in your prayers. I shall be travelling to Scotland for the occasion’

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Aaron was also a good friend of Alexander Redman in Rome. Any news on the ex-Glastonbury monks? Their discernment is taking a while.

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12:27
And why not? They might be on an extended sabbatical discerning process which can take a decade or two…. all courtesy of……. the sheeple! So keep on giving folks…

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Be patient, 11:44, discernment doesn’t happen overnight. So far taking account of having been Ealing monks and seminarians their discernment has taken over a decade. Probably another decade would be reasonable.
Did I mention that the church is all about the sheep supporting their shepherds, particularly the absent ones?

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Yes, the donations button is on their website if anyone feels inclined to support them in their ongoing ‘discernment’. It costs £40k a year to train a priest and a similar amount to help them through post-ordination ‘discernment.’ So please give generously.

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I serve the Craggy Island catholic church.Bishop Len has granted me time out so I am planning to go on sabbatical (for as long as possible) to study for a PhD in idiocy studies in the Department of Idiocy in Gaynooth. Donations are urgently required to fund this project. Please please please go fund me. You know it makes cents. With thanks. Steady Eddie.

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11:18 is a bitchy queen, the type of gossip and calumniator condemned by Pope Francis.
PS, no straight man does the nudge nudge, wink wink insinuations of 11:18. He’s obviously a self-hating gay.

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How dare you. I’m a priest and you are calumniating me! How can you call yourself a faithful Catholic after making anonymous insinuations like that!
11:18

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After reading this how could you doubt that the church teaches child abuse isn’t okay and teaches that it is okay.

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11.50

It is God who vocates men to the priesthood, not bishops. A bishop has no right interfering in the divine process.

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11.48

Now, according to the Gospel, Jesus Christ called J. I. to serve him. (You know, the creep who would betray him.) So, if you believe all that ‘you have not chosen me; I have chosen you’ shite, then you have to accept that God himself called J. I. (and not just J. I., but, down the centuries, a rake of kiddie-fiddlers to become priests) and did so (if you accept divine omniscience) with full foreknowledge that, first, J. I. would betray his boy (the one in whom he was ever so pleased), and that said kiddie-fiddlers would, well, fiddle kids, and then be cosseted by popes, cardinals, bishops, and other priests.

I have a reasonable question here: Is God f**k*d up, or what?

No need for a satanic spanner in the works: Satan’s too busy bellylaughing at God’s divine comedy to get up to no good. What was it JC said about a kingdom divided against itself? That it would… succeed? 🤔 (Meanwhile, the Catholic Church is falling apart through its roaring success. 🤣)

Or might it be that God never intended priesthood in the first place? That priesthood is entirely a human contrivance, born of vanity and power-seeking, a deviation from the will of God, and a means by which Satan could take up permanent residence in such places as the Vatican?

Meanwhile they, priests, maintain the uproarious fiction (as the Scottish report confirms) that all of this is God’s doing, not theirs.

Jesus! Now THAT’S weaponising God!

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Excellent comment at 12:42 exposing the heart of the problem that they really don’t have any answer to at all.

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11:48 If you could see how many priests make my work harder down here you would know that it’s Her Upstairs who calls them not me. The problem is how they answer.

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At least one bishop takes enquiries before ordination seriously, as seen by this welsh bishop who requested parishes to publish the following in their bulletins:
Important Notice: Ordination to Sacred Orders – Deacon
Mr. Matthew Paul Andrew Bond, a seminarian of this diocese at the Pontifical Beda College, Rome has requested ordination to the deaconate in his progress towards ordination to priesthood. In order to satisfy the criteria ‘enquiry among the people of Christ’ I invite you to give your testimony regarding his qualities and suitability for ordination. (Canons 1051, 1052§1).
Your response should include when and how you know Matthew as well as your identity and contact details.
Responses should be made by Friday 5th June to The Rt. Rev’d Peter M. Brignall, Bishop of Wrexham, Bishop’s House, Sontley Road, Wrexham LL13 7EW or pa@rcdwxm.org.uk
Additionally, please keep Matthew in your prayers in these strangest of times for the Church as he prepares for ordination, the completion of his studies and formation, then priesthood and ministry.

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Can you imagine Amy’s and Holy Toaley’s inboxes if they had done the same ahead of the ordinations of Wilson and Morris?

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They would have to be true reports by people using their own name, and not those made by anonymous trolls, alkies, CINOs and seminary rejects.

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There was nothing stopping anyone with direct experience and evidence from contacting the bishop or archbishop before the ordination.

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@ 11:50am
Now who could it positively be asking people to contact this Bishop, even supplying the address and email details. Guess who?, sadly I’m sure you’ll be right🙄

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4.01
Your mind is in overdrive can you not get me out of your mind.
I am certainly not interested in a career Bishop trying to through his hat into the ring for Westminster.
Peter Brignall is a nice man but should never have been a Bishop lacks personality.
Pope Franci seems to be appointing Bishops in their late 60’s as Archbishops but Peter will not get Westminister he will be in Wreham till retirement.
Bishop Moth or Mason will likely get Westminster and a Westmister will get Liverpool.

Since it is Saturday and before I go to Holy Mass lets have a karaoke tune.

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At this stage most people know things were bad in the Irish church but finding this blog and reading the posts from the pro mass people?? They certainly do themselves or their no favours on here. We wish you well Bishop Buckley & the people you are helping, it’s sad to see the continued determination of the Catholic Church to brush everything under the big durty carpet.

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@ 4:28pm

PSMSL! I knew that would draw you out ya cretin, it;s not you that’s on anyone’s mind it’s your obsession with writing to every Papal Nuncio and poor Bishop that’s so obvious along with your constant use of sad and sadly in all your inane comments. On your way to Holy Mass more like your on your way to your usual haunt The Pink lion. 🤣🤣🤣

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5.52
His Holiness the Supreme Pontiff Francis has said teh Lay Faithful (Roman Catholics) must keep Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops on their toes and close to their sheep.
So it is not an obsession it is carrying out the Holy Fathers wishes.
His letter this week to teh Priests of the Church was informing them it is not about tradition, Rubrics but about being worth of meeting Jesus so never mind the penny candles just turn to prayer and help your Brothers and Sisters in finding the Gospel.
Well this weekend being the 16th Sunday of Ordinary time are you a Martha or Mary ?

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‘teh Lay Faithful (Roman Catholics) must keep Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops on their toes and close to their sheep.’
That really is taking the piss if true. None of those deviants are coming near me.

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12.44: You certainly haven’t a clue about psychotherapy. Not can you tell the truth. I doubt if you can produce clinical evidence to corroborate your claims. It is important to speak TRUTH.

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5:17 No, I understand the difference perfectly. Can you tell the difference between correlation and causation?
No evidence for the immaculate conception, needless to say.

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@ 7:48pm
You’re Martha and Mary, the very last thing Granny Fanny is, is Supreme Pontiff I think the smell of the sheep has overpowered him. None of his useless prelates would go near the sheep. They are too busy on drugs and orgies in the CDF.. Nobody is going to carry out that oul melts wishes. I take great pleasure in informing you I’ve just returned from Rome last week not a sign of polyester anywhere but sumptious Roman vestments and a plethora of lace enough to smother the oul melt and you. Ordinary times suites you all you are so ordinary.😏

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It’s terrible to be wronged. Still at least on this blog you can present your evidence and show us how you were wronged. Await same, Shalom

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Its worse to be mildly wronged but never shut up about it and then piecemeal divulge their exes secrets on a blog.

Masalama Habiba😀🇵🇸

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7:23 You are an absolute gobshite Todd. You start off supporting me for coming forward and now because of my political beliefs you change your time and make me out to be a stalker. I have always made it very clear that I came on the blog to stop Fr. Ger from hurting other women. I actually hesitated about coming forward but Pat helped to convince me that it was the right thing to do so that other women parishioners would not be targeted. I’m contrast, you have actually gone out of your way to slag Fr. Ger at every opportunity including having your “spies” tell you what he is up to in Castleconnell. You are, simply put, a hypocrite! Why don’t you go leave in Gaza where your Hamas friends execute gays and anyone else who they dislike including innocent Palestinians who dare to try and reach out in friendship and peace to Israeli citizens? By trying to make me look bad and discredit me, you are only making a fool out of yourself. The only reason I asked you about Gaynooth is because WM thought you were Todd Nolan. Who are you really and what is your true agenda? 🇮🇱

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Karen I did support you, no doubt. But what you are doing now is vengeful and vexacious. It is a campaign. It is quite clear from last week’s announcement that GF wont be saying mass anytime soon. And Yvonne has moved on. Yet at the drop of a hat you reveal secrets you should not have – psychotherapy for example. This is patently bad form and has more to do with an angry ex than any real belief in protecting women. Furthermore you support Trump which makes your defending women stance laughable. Then again you are a supporter of Israel which means you have to ignore facts every day of the week. So I have become utterly circumspect of your rantings – you are simply out for angry revenge, funnily enough just like Trump. It is not fair on GF. Its not fair on this blog either.

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Apologies for the typos. I’m after a few glasses of Prosecco at St. Mary’s Cathedral where I raised a glass to Dean Sloane who was also enjoying the bubbly. So much for preserving the sanctity of the church. We are in the end times. Nothing is as it should be and the Lord will soon come back to make “seder”.

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10.17 You are making a pretty good job of discrediting yourself. You don’t have to blame Todd.

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10:31 Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?! 🤣. You are a hypocrite. You know nothing about what is really going on with Yvonne so STFU Mr. Ham Ass. When I am attacked, I will give back ten times as hard. I learned that from Yvonne. Have you heard anything from your spies in Castleconnell Todd? Answer the question about who you really are. Do your political rants about Trump & the Pallys have any place on this blog? Do you really care what happens to Fr. Ger? Should I count up the number of times you slagged him on the blog? As long as that gobshite priest is getting his pay check from the RCC he is fair game. You are not a saint Todd and you are too much of a coward to even use your real name. You compared me to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction you piece of dog doo-doo. I will never stop revealing Fitzgerald’s duplicity and lies until there is concrete proof that he is completely gone out of the RCC. You can’t get rid of me and I have a right to speak out on the blog just as much as you. It’s called free speech—something your friends in Pallywood know nothing about—so you can ignore me all you want. I’m not going anywhere and you will NOT dictate to me what to say or not to say on this blog.

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@The Stern Gang 10.59 am you are not trying to protect women. Drop the act. It doesnt wash. You are angry and full of vengeance. I dont see how your tasteless drip-feed of very personal stuff about Ger is protecting anyone. All it does is pile humiliation on him and does nothing to protect anyone. Of course the elephant in the room here is that Ger didnt want you as a girlfriend. You were friends, that is all. You may have showered him with gifts but I can assure you if he felt as you did you would likely still be together. You should of course be moving on with your life. Yvonne has a case; yours is considerably weaker. Taking pics of him leaving a cafe is disconcerting to say the least.

To quote a great saying from the Arabs: “Europeans took a European problem (the Jews) and made it an Arab problem (Israel). The day Sunni and Shia see eye to eye is the day Israel is finished.

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11:28 You know NOTHING about my relationship with the priest other than what I have revealed on the blog. Interesting that a priest who just wanted to be friends with me told me that he loved me when we went to Galway. You are trying to whitewash all the horrible things he did to me now with because you don’t like my politics. You are a fake and I have ZERO respect for you. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. Even Cleo, the safeguarding officer, told me that the damage caused to me by Ger was more devastating because it was an emotional affair. The other victim didn’t love Ger. That’s the difference. You can take your pseudo concern for victims on this blog and and shove it up your Ham Ass you loser.

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11:28 Israel will wipe out all its enemies who try to destroy them first because they have the LORD of Hosts in command. I will bless those that bless you (Israel) and curse those that curse you says the Commander in Chief of the heavenly hosts. The nation of Israel is the apple of God’s eye. I would be scared if I was you 🤣. You don’t fool me for a second. You are trying to attack me where you know I am vulnerable. We will see who wins you misogynist Anti Semite coward. What’s your real name again? As the other victim says: Do your worst 😂💪

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I hope you enjoyed the show. Great work goes into organising these fashion shows. St Mary’s is a wonderful venue.

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9:55 I did enjoy it. Well done to all those who took part. Limerick is a lady and we are very fortunate to have so many free cultural events to avail of. Luimneach Abu and good luck in the final.

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I’m glad you enjoyed the show, Limerick is truly wonderful. Please trust that the sanctity of St Mary’s Catheral is intact and that the end times are awhile away.

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They is NO excuse for the terrible abuse both physically and mentally none what so ever and I would find it very hard in 2022 to find a Bishop who would cover for the organisation as they also have families.
In earlier years clergy were informed the church is your family the presbytrate now thankfully that has changed over the past twenty years.
Everyone gets the point about the firlth priests they were and everyone gets the point of the clergy and their sexual entcounters and it is certainly unacceptable.
Bishops in Ireland are under extreme pressure from teh Association of Catholic Priest that many of the c/o clergy should be reinstated like Ger and Jerry to name two but God willing it is not happening.
It is No excuse however there are many Holy and Good Priests and religious and i know the agenda of this blog is to say they are all bad but that is not true and the rotten Priests are NOT welcome.

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Looked at the bishop of Rome’s track record? He knowingly appointed an abuser a bishop, but you just keep living in your little fantasy.

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And out here in the real world professionals who wish to maintain their own reputation would avoid an employer who had been accused of torture by the UN.

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Is that the UN that has China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afghanistan as members of its human rights commission? 😂

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Absolutely no offence to you or any of the commenters, Bishop Pat, but this has to be one of the most boring days ever on the blog.

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12.29: So, So true Danny. All rhetoric today is the same as the past few days. Repeat, repeat, repeat by same few miserabili. Pat falls for the same crap every second day…

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@12.29 it’s July, vacation time for the more proactive members of the X Gang AKA Fr Anonymous contributors

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Priests who are into psychotherapy or counselling are dangerous too – as the blog illustrates- they will have your pants down or knickers off in a heartbeat and they are drawn to vulnerable people.
Their obsession is sex and they love to get you talking about masturbation- honestly masturbation is their thing – walk away from a RC priest who goes down this dark alley -they are either predators or enablers.

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12:44pm is correct, unfortunately. That was my experience. I’ll never again go to a priest counsellor. The obsession with masterbation and inveigling me to do it with them was immense. The priest who did this to me was in Westminster diocese. He drank himself to death.

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Never confess anything to any member of the Roman Catholic Church, remember they confess nothing about themselves & will only use the information for abuse, slander or disparagement.

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Thirty years a cop in NYPD. Retired to Ireland with my wife seven years ago.
One of the first things I was told by a Captain in my precinct was never trust a Catholic priest.I was told they used the collar to gain respectability and they would do anything to protect the reputation of the church and other priests.
My experience over the years was that some priests were decent,honest men but I’m afraid many of them were quite duplicitous and would look you in the eye while telling downright lies.
I could rhyme off chapter and verse many of my negative experiences with priests but this
is not the forum for that.

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Bowery Bernie, pity you consider this blog not the right forum to relate your bad experiences with priests. It’s one of very few available with a good readership.

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Roman Catholic priests are basically gutless, which is one reason they have such a fine capacity for self-delusion about their moral and legal crimes, and why they find these so easy to rationalise into insignificance (witness the vulnerable woman in today’s blog manipulated by that pervy, order priest-parasite).
Is there another reason? Yes, there is, a more fundamental one: each Roman Catholic ordinand deliberately elects to serve a corrupt institution, the RC Church, rather than Christ.
Can anyone seriously wonder why these apples never fall far from the tree?

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The title of today’s blog should be in the present tense given all the unresolved cases worldwide.

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3:32 Hardly academic, pseudo or otherwise. It’s not 3:21’s fault you envy his basic grammatical ability.

Your daily reminder not to send your kids to a cathbot school.

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What a sad collection of bitter nasty twisted individuals who populate this site. I am grateful to Pat that you all have such a harmless forum wher you can vent your venemous bile. It serves a valuable function as a kind of free psychotherapeutic outlet for the demented. Meanwhile the real world goes on. Happy blogging you sad twisted people. I’ll pray for you. God is infinitely merciful to the repentent.

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4:20 What are your motives for reading the blog then? A little bit of voyeurism? Save your prayers for those who actually ask for them.

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I read the blog as a motivation to prayer for the people who post, People like you. God can heal even the demented. Turn to him in faith!

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4:39 You and and the likes of your fellow clergyman who are featured on this blog are the demented ones. God doesn’t listen to prayers from hypocrites and self righteous Pharisees.

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4:20
The focus of this blog is to expose abuse corruption and crime in the catholic church in Ireland and Internationally. Is this a problem for you? The infinite mercy of God is not in question. What is highly questionable is patent hypocrisy, lack of leadership from the hierarchy coupled with loss of moral credibility. The first strategy by clergy in dealing with survivors of clerical abuse is to gaslight, which is another form of abuse, calling into question their sanity, such as you did by calling commentators twisted and demented.
Commentators include trolls. Others have had their lives destroyed by the church.
I pray God might enlighten you to recognise Jesus in those abused by priests and bishops of the catholic church, on this, the feast day of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.

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4.20 The question that arises from your comment; Why do you come here ? God is particularly close to the suffering, is He not ( your use of the word demented as a disparagement in indicative of the journey you must yet make.) ?

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Confession is a Sacrament for Old Ladies

Ordination a Sacrament for Old Queens

Confirmation the Sacrament of Exit

That’s three out of Seven rendered redundant by the clergy – time will tell!!

Baptism – lay people can baptise

Marriage – lay people minister to each other and can officiate

Eucharist – a new theology- drop medieval nomenclature and hocus pocus – resourement and NT – St. Peter and Paul didn’t know diddly squat about Transubstantiation!!

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Some Christian denominations have a Believer’s Baptism. There is something to be said for it. Adults making a conscious profession of faith.
Hopefully Up for the Match, on RTÉ 1, will be good this evening. I need to get some value out of my TV licence. Limerick. Kilkenny. Clash of the ash and clash of the titans. 🏑

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Who came up with transubtantiation?
When Jesus gave the last supper he offered up his body and blood in love for us so that we can have eternal life . My understanding of this Eucharist is for each of us to offer up some of our comforts so that we can help our fellow man on this earthly journey and allow God’s love act through us. I do not believe that it is only in the Catholic church that you reach heaven. I see the spirit of Jesus in the goodness of people and I see them living the Eucharist in their daily life and many of them are not Catholics. I have observed priests using the sacrament as a power where they would refuse people communion by not giving it correctly as where pat was refused

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I agree with 2.34. I do not trust them anymore and their meetings groups with the select lay people can be a right gossip session about the parishioners.

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4.41 what exactly is the legal definition of a parishioner? Surely one is not a parishioner in the religious sense if they don’t attend local RC parish church? If one bought a house next to a synagogue, that wouldn’t make one Jewish or Muslim a few years later when one sells up & move near a Mosque. Is there a high degree of convenient presumption going by clergy in this regard to bump up the illusion of high membership numbers?

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6.01
Your are a parishioner of the parish boundary if you have been confirmed in the True Faith that being the Roman Catholic Church under the current Supreme Pontiff Francis.

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Shocking how they spring into action to cover up for each other. It’s all about them & what’s best for them, not bothered who they damage.

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@5.50 Brady & Hindley similar to church displayed extreme cruel indifference to the plight of their victims and families.

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Modern medication can help greatly with mental angush, You poor demented souls can be helped. Bitterness is like a cancer, it eats you up. Surrender to the Lord’s healing compassionate love, turn from vile and hateful thoughts; they prevent the Holy Spirit producing any fruits in you!

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7:13
More abuse from the Carmelite, who seems to know little or nothing about modern medication for mental anguish. I strongly sugget you encourage priests, religious superiors, and bishops, as well as seminary formators and newly ordained priests to surrender to the Lord in repentance in order to receive His healing compassionate love. The wicked should turn from their wicked, vile, and hateful ways.They inhibit the action of the Holy Spirit in their lives and the lives of the people they supposedly serve. No wonder the vine is rotting.

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This post typifies the poisoned mind. Clearly there is nothing of the Spirit of God in these utterances. The poor soul obviously has had negative experience that have corrupted his thinking. He is more to be pitied than condemned. I am praying for you. The Lord can heal!

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9:05
The Lord can heal, but in order to receive healing there must be repentance with an openness to receive His Healing Spirit. John of the Cross and Teresa of Avila could face reality ; Saints can acknowledge reality due to intimacy with Ultimate Reality. Are you experiencing cognitive dissonance ? Is your view of the church and world view challenged ? Pious platitudes with patronizing insults to commentators will only serve to alienate more people from the Lord. Off to bed with you, and don’t forget night office.

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Christ Jesus can change the blackest of hearts. My prayer life is none of your business.
Here is a simple thought to grasp; if God was ‘weaponised’ in Scotland by priests to silence victims and justify abuse, it also happened elsewhere i.e. in other catholic countries. Now, here is a little exercise in humilitas for your consideration; next time you look in a mirror let this though come to mind- the one reflecting the poisonous mind in these exchanges is looking back at you. Good night, Carmelite.

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I am ever hopeful that even the hate-filled can be open. Pray with me for them. Prayer can change the blackest of hearts. Or does the power of prayer scare you?

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8.26: You’re wrong. Some comments come from priests. The majority are from lay people, many ex seminarians and ex priests. There are also many repeat commenters on a daily basis.

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I’m afraid I have to disagree. Most priests who have lost the clerical state are glad to be out of the RCC and would be living fulfilled lives without coming back here to remember the toxic institution they once served. As for ex -seminarians – most leave voluntarily. I imagine it would be not easy to get thrown out these days. Therefore those who comment here must be serving priests – perhaps too old, institutionalised, or lacking resources to get out. They’re unhappy, though.

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9:57 Spot on. Honesty not being their strong suit, that’s why they’re so eager to make out its anyone else.
There is only one group of people who both appear on this blog and are affected by it, and it sure as hell ain’t the Southern Baptist Convention.

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9.57: I disagree with you. There are some priests who contribute to this blog frequently but I contend that many who comment are non clerics. Some ex’s have axes to grind and use Pat’s blog. Also, Pat has a very wide non clerical audience who follow him and who comment. Many of the daily comments are from repeat commenters, this giving a false impression that there’s a high number of clerics.

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Obviously no Carthusian (which my phone is determined to change into Car Husband lol) would comment here as they’re all busy living the holy life they’ve been vocated to.

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