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AN EMAIL TO PHONSIE THE TORMENTOR.

Dear Phonsie,

Over the past few days we have been dealing with your mistreatment and bullying of Father Richard Geoghegan on my blog:​ bishoppatbuckley.blog.

There are very few clerics on this island who will tell you to your face what they think of you.

But I am one who will!

You are a right wing and vicious episcopal bully. And like all bullies you bully people who are weak, sensitive and who cannot stand up to you.

It appears to me that you

1. May be a canonical Roman Catholic ( in the worse meaning of that term) but you are certainly not a Christian in any way.

2. That you have serious mental, emotional and psychosexual problems.

3. That you are simply a bully who needs to be tackled and brought down.

4. That you appear to enjoy inflicting hurt on people of all kinds and of all ages – especially vulnerable and weak people.

Your maltreatment of Father Geoghegan is despicable and dishonest. Richard always wanted to be a priest and you used a time of crisis in his life to walk all over him. Shame on you!

I do allow the right of reply on my blog and you are welcome to submit a reply for publication via​ bishopbuckley1@outlook.com

Add to that -​ your irrational outbursts on matter like the cervical cancer vaccination for girls, yoga and you bullying of people during church ceremonies -​ and the fact that you have young people living with you compound your absolute your unsuitability for either priesthood or episcopate.

Sincerely,

+ Pat Buckley

SAMPLE LAICISATION DOCUMENT FROM ROME.

SORRY FOR THE SLIGHTLY DISJOINTED LAYOUT BELOW TO PROTECT PERSONS

 

CONGREGATIO PRO CLERICIS  

(Dispensatio ab oneribus  Ordinatiioni conexis)  

 

Prot. N. 2018/32478/23  

 

JOHN MURPHY of the diocese of Dromore humbly requests dispensation from sacred celibacy and from the obligations connected to Sacred Ordination.  

 

The Holy Father FRANCIS,  

 

                                         on the 3rd day of March 2018  

 

after having received the report of the Congregation for the Clergy, has given his consent tothe request, together with the following provisions:  

1.  The Rescript comprising the grace of the dispensation, to be transmitted as soon aspossible by the Ordinary of the petitioner, in conformity with the norms found below (n. 2),  

a) takes effect from the moment in which it is notified to the petitioner;  

b. Includes inseparably a dispensation from celibacy at the same time as the loss of the


 

clerical state. These two elements can neverbe separated, being, in the current praxis, part of a single procedure;  

  1. if the petitioner is a religious, this Rescript also includes a dispensation from his vows;  
  2. in addition, said Rescript includes, if necessary, an absolution from censures;  

2.   The notification of the grace of dispensation for the petitioner may be done either personally (by the same Ordinary,by his delegate, or by an ecclesiastical notary) or by registered letter. The Ordinary must return a copy, duly signed by the petitioner, as ar. att-statior. of I*.- reception of that Rescriptand of the acc•ptar.ce of the norms.  

3.     The notification of the concession of the grace of dispensation must be registered in the baptismal registry of the home parish of the petitioner, to which the notice will be transmitted by the petitioner’s Ordinary.  

4.  Regarding the celebration of a canonical marriage, the norms found in the Code ofCanon Law on this matter(cf. cann. 1055-1140) must be applied,with respect for the sensibilities of the local faithful.  

5.   The ecclesiastical Authority to which it pertains to communicate the Rescript to the dispensed cleric, is to endeavor as far as possibleto see to it that he takes an active part in the life of the Peopleof God, in a manner consonant with his new state, to give edifying exampleand, thereby, show himself as a devotedson of the Church, fulfilling useful service to the Christian communityand placing at its servicethe gifis and talents given him by God. At the same time, he must be informed of the following points:  

a)   The dispensed cleric automatically loses the rightsproper to the clerical state, and all those connected to it, as well as the related obligations (cf. cann. 273-289); the dispensed  

The dispensed cleric will be able to exercise ecclesiastical offices that do not require Holy Orders, with the permission of the competent Bishop, having heard the Collegeof Consultors;  

b)    The dispensed cleric retains, however, the duties relative to the sacrament of Reconciliation in the case of a penitent in danger of death, as found in canons 976 and 986 §2;  

6.   It is desirable that the dispensed cleric be accepted in the community of the Church where he resides,to continue his journey, faithfulto the duties of his baptismal vocation. In receiving the dispensed cleric in the Church community tamquam laicus, it will be necessary for the Bishop to take care that any functions or services that may eventually be entrusted to him will notcause wonderment or scandalamong the faithful.  

7.  Considering the concrete circumstances, according to the prudent judgment of thecompetent Bishop, the dispensed clericwill be able to carry out a directive officeor the duty of teaching the theological disciplines in institutions of lower studies that depend upon ecclesiastical authority. The same holds for the dispensed cleric concerning the teaching of Religion in similar institutions that do not depend upon ecclesiastical authority.  

8.     In institutions of higher learning, that are in any way dependent upon ecclesiastical authority, the dispensed cleric will be unable to carry out a directive office. Nevertheless, this prohibition will be able to be removed by the Congregation for the Clergy, at the request of the competent Bishop, and after having consulted the Congregation for CatholicEducation, in such a way that the dispensed cleric may be able to fulfill some function in theological faculties or in equivalent institutions of academic formation, as well as in other institutions of higher learning that are in any way dependent upon ecclesiastical authority.  

9.    In institutions of higher learning, whether or not they are dependent upon ecclesiastical authority, the dispensed- cleric will not be able to teach properly theological disciplines, or those intimately connected to theology. Nevertheless, this prohibition will be able to be removed by the Congregation for the Clergy, at the request oftb.e competent Bishop, and after having consulted the Congregation for CatholicEducation.  

”10. The dispensed cleric is not able to fulfill formative functions in Seminaries or in equivalent institutions.  

11.At a convenient time, a brief reportshould be made to this Congregation on the completed notification and on the prospects for the dispensed cleric within the community of the Church.  

Given at the offices of the Congregation, on the 3rd of  March in the year 2018.  

 

Lazzaro You Heung sik ‘ Archbishop-Bishop Emeritus of Daejeon  

Prefect  

 

 

 

 

Date of notification                                  

 

 


 

Signature of Petitioner indicating acceptance  

 


 

I    Andrés Gabriel FerradaMoreira Titular Archbishop of Tiburnia Secretary  

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Signature of Ordinary  

ARMAGH CLERICAL CHANGES

Rt Rev Mgr Colum Curry, PP, VG, Beragh, to be PE, AP, Kildress / Lissan

▪ V Rev Patrick McEnroe, PP, Darver & Dromiskin, to be PE, AP, Darver & Dromiskin

▪ V Rev Oliver Brennan, PP, Kilmore, to retire

▪ V Rev Sean McGuigan, PP, Ardboe, to retire

▪ V Rev Gerard Tremer, PP, VF, Lower Creggan to be PP, Ardboe

▪ V Rev Gerard Campbell, PP, VF, EV, Knockbridge and Kilkerley and Adm, Louth, also to be Adm, Darver & Dromiskin

▪ V Rev Michael C. Toner, PP, Portadown to be PP, Lower Creggan

▪ V Rev Seán McCartan, Ardee & Collon, to be PP, Beragh (Co Tyrone)

▪ V Rev Michael Sheehan, Adm, Holy Redeemer, to be PP, Portadown and Adm, Kilmore (Co Armagh)

▪ V Rev Mark O’Hagan, PP, VF, St Patrick’s, Dundalk, also to be Adm, Holy Redeemer, Dundalk

REV PAUL MURPHY, CC, ST PETER’S, DROGHEDA, TO BE CC, KILMORE (CO ARMAGH), AND TO SERVE IN THE ARMAGH INTER-DIOCESAN MARRIAGE TRIBUNAL

▪ Rev Maciej Zacharek, CC, St Patrick’s, Dundalk, Director of Studies, Redemptoris Mater Missionary Seminary, Dundalk, also to be CC, Holy Redeemer, Dundalk

▪ Rev Michael Darko, on loan from the Diocese of Wiawso, Ghana, CC, St Patrick’s, Dundalk, until 30 June 2022, returning to his diocese

▪ Rev Shajan Panjachickal Michael, on loan from the Eparchy of Kothamangalam, India, CC, Holy Redeemer, Dundalk, to complete his term in the pastoral care of the Syro-Malabar community

▪ Rev Peter Hassan, on loan from the Diocese of Jalingo, Nigeria, to be CC, St Patrick’s, Dundalk and Holy Redeemer, Dundalk

​ REV PIOTR WOJTALA, ON LOAN FROM THE DIOCESE OF OPOLE, POLAND, TO BE CC, ST PETER’S, DROGHEDA

▪ Rev Sijo John, on loan from the Diocese of Tellicherry, Kerala, India, to be CC, Louth and to assist in the pastoral care of the Syro-Malabar community

▪ Rev Sijo John, on loan from the Diocese of Tellicherry, Kerala, India, to be CC, Louth and to assist in the pastoral care of the Syro-Malabar community

▪ Rev Regi Meladath, on loan from the Archdiocese of Kottayam, Kerala, India, to be CC, Dungannon

▪ Rev Stefano Colleluori, newly-ordained, to be CC, Ardee & Collon

▪ Rev Colm Hagan, newly-ordained, to be CC, Donaghmore and Pomeroy

▪ Rev Stephen Wilson, newly-ordained, to be CC, St Patrick’s, Dundalk, and Holy Redeemer, Dundalk

▪ Deacon Carlos Esteban Rojo, newly-ordained, on loan to Diocese of Dromore

▪ Deacon Patrick Butterly, newly-ordained Permanent Deacon, to serve in the Parish of Termonfechin

▪ Deacon George Kingsnorth, newly-ordained Permanent Deacon, to serve in the Parishes of Dromintee and Faughart

▪ Deacon Eunan McCreesh, newly-ordained Permanent Deacon, to serve in the Cathedral Parish, Armagh

269 replies on “AN EMAIL TO PHONSIE THE TORMENTOR.”

12.01 Fitzgerald isn’t going anywhere, he’s dug his heels in, he’s got too much on the cabal in Maynooth & Killaloe. He’s on gardening leave in his house in Castleconnell. Chip shop on speed dial 🍟 😇🍟

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You should be able to take your hand off the plough without being chased up about it years later.

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2:02 Not while the priest is still ploughing down his victim and using her photographs in a book without giving proper credit. Fuck that logic.

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2.13pm. No more of this, please. We’ve heard more than enough. People break up and friendships end, but healthy people don’t go on and on about it.

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12.01 Alleged fraud is not statute barred – what’s the story with the €17k & the €70k financial issues in Killaloe & in Waterford & Lismore Diocese.

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@2:31 Healthy people fight for their rights and don’t let scumbag corrupt priests walk all over them and steal their photos and their dignity. Feck off.

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Canon I have been watching your comments, which are very well put together .

you sound like a smart individual and very reasonabley fair with your opinions.

I’m intrigued, where are you based in the country? you sound local…

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2.31 it appears that RCC failed to take a 360 degree view on risk assessments when they lowered their recruitment standards due to pressure on attracting vocations after well publicised revelations commencing with Bishop Eamon Casey & Fr Michael Cleary etc & so on. Fitzgerald might have passed the initiation exercises in his given newspaper interviews but unfortunately he went too far & lost the run of himself on appointment & here we are & not a dickey bird from his bosses & no written confirmation on whereabouts of several MIAs in Ireland. Not very respectful to the faithful IMHO. That’s the problem with mushroom management, eventually the shit rises like the proverbial Phoenix from the ashes covering up the crap 💩

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4.47 two smiling charmers – Casey & Cleary, they fooled a lot of people for a very long time. Both used their powerful positions over weak & vulnerable that they targetted for personal gratification. Casey sent overseas for smoke to clear. The same modus operandi still being used, nothing changes. Only the names are different. Poor old Bunny Carr wasn’t a patch on them & he was hung out to dry.

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@6:31 Didn’t you see in past blogs that you were not in Limerick and out of the country you lying Antisemite prick?

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I had one after abandoning the ministry for more than five years – entirely out of the blue. I wouldn’t participate in the process, but the bastards even emailed me at my place of work to accept papers. They were persistent.

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Really not being funny but just abandoning things tends to lead to that happening. If you just abandon a job you’ll get similar and it won’t take five years. Abandoned children tend to result in the father being pursued for support.
You can’t abandon your commitments and not expect other people involved to want you to finalize things. It’s called being a grown up.

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And if you abandon an abusive husband, would you expect to dance to their tune so they can have closure? The RCC is toxic and institutionally abusive, and anyone who disengages themselves from it should be applauded.

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10.11 Well said, you have nailed it, the RCC is institutionally abusive & this explains the attraction that it holds for the personalities attracted to its laity & clerical membership who persist in revictimizing & enabling the defence of the indefensible frequently in matters that they are not qualified in nor in any way authorised to be officially privy to but breach of confidentiality is commonplace by hierarchy handling complaints in the RCC in efforts to suppress truth and justice in support of their friends in high places. Elitist to the core is the RCC.

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10:11 You would be expected to sign the divorce papers.
The clerical urge to have everything your own way runs deep in you, ‘father’.

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3.16 pm. I’d sign divorce papers as I am subject to the state’s laws. I can’t voluntarily withdraw unless I make a domicile of choice elsewhere. The church has no legal authority in the UK, so any adherence to its laws and procedures is voluntarily made.

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Exactly, thanks, Bishop Pat. I finalised things the day I walked out and would not let them continue to have any authority over me by participating in their silly processes or signing papers. They have no legal status in the UK, and I was not employed by them as, technically, I was ‘self-employed. The RCC only has as much power over you as you’re prepared to give them.

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Why does Fat fitzgerald get pulled into every blog im sure the Fat ex preist is singing with the cornetto girl! It is over🙄

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Ger has sinned but is trying to move on as best he can. He’s still on the payroll but clearly has no ministry.

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@10:40 Here is is my msg to you:
You say you want to move on but yet you still check the blog and try to post anonymously. You got what you wanted but I did not.
I want a meeting with the priest and an apology. If I don’t get what I am asking for then I will seek compensation. I will not back down and I will stand my ground.
This saga is far from over for me and there are unresolved issues which need to be addressed. Neither Sly Fox Fitzgerald or his like minded cohorts will ever succeed in their feeble attempts to silence me on the blog nor will they denigrate me to the point where I give up. The Lord is my helper. Whom shall I fear? A corrupt priest and his minions on the blog? Never. Have a nice day.

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@12.48 Sue – for what exactly? Ending the relationship? Bringing you to dodgy chippers? Sharing an ice cream with you?

The only person in any position to sue here is Ger Fitz sueing you for spreading unsubstantiated stories.

Please give it a rest.

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12:49 I do not heed advice or opinions given by a bonafide Antisemite like you.

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10.40 Shut up Ger, you remain a “person of interest” beyond the Carole & Yvonne matter whilst you remain on Diocese payroll & your official status is non declared by Killaloe Diocese although the faithful and the public are entitled to this freedom of information. Got it – that’s a statement, not a question.

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@1.17 as I thought – nothing to sue for. No surprise. Your making a show of yourself

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What crime has Ger Fitzgerald committed. Loads of innuendo but no evidence. If I was Ger I would be seeking advice.

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12.49 it is very clear to anyone taking the time & trouble to read back over previous blogs that the allegations made against Fr Gerard Fitzgerald, c/o Westbourne, Killlaloe Diocese, Ennis, Co Clare are indeed well substantiated and it also appears that injured parties have submitted relevant documentation to the Bishop & his staff. Outcome pending in this & other matters.

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Pat I would go one step further. Celibacy means no sex, correct? GF did not have sex with her. He likely resisted it! I can tell you with 100% certainty a man in love will want to bed the lady as soon as he can. But it didnt happen! Sure he freeloaded and shouldnt have but according to church rules he has done no wrong to Karen AT ALL. This is very important!

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@ 3:31PM Can you answer a few very simple questions your Highness!
Why in god’s name do you use so many pseudonyms instead of your own name KAREN?. Is it because you don’t want to be recognised – if so, you can forget it as everyone knows ITS YOU AND ONLY YOU, the minute you put a comment on any of pats blogs,
Pat please dont bin this – its a very fair comment. Thank you.

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@4.54 no allegations on Karen’s part were substantiated. None. There was a private bank statement that Karen “found” and thats it.

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But……Terry, Gers friend said it was not Gers money.

Why was € 17 000 of somebody else’s money in Gers account?

That’s serious stuff.

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6.31pm Ah Now Bishop Pat! But sure don’t you know that €17K was only “resting” in the bank account of Fr Ger ard Fitzgerald! He might have been planning a trip to the lingerie section at Ennis Dunnes Stores where that clip from the Channel 4 production was filmed!

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Ger Fitz could have told Larry anything. It’s all hearsay. No evidence, no crime committed. It’s acknowledged he’s an spineless, awful man but you can’t prove theft and that’s what is being insinuated here by Karen.

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While both ladies have submitted relevant evidence for different issues in relation to the offending priest.

there is no evidence in Karen’s communications with Fitzgerald that suggest, she was ‘ABUSED’ and /or ‘EMOTIONALLY RAPED’ in any way by him.

He has sufficient evidence to prove that it is in fact Karen is the aggressor and harassing him.

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@5:07 To quote your friend, Fr Ger Fitzgerald, who is an aficionado of the British Royal Family & all things 🇬🇧 : “I only answer questions when they are not ridiculous.”

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Pat why should anyone believe Terry?
And I also ask if Karen and Ger ended up in a proper relationship would she be on here castigating him?

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Pat nobody is denying her friendship and evidence that she did submit about he’s behaviour, she was right to do what she did if he is taking advantage but read my comment again, there no evidence to sujest she was abused or emotionally raped in all communications including evidence given to the bishop.

Fintan believes her story not the dramatic exaggeration that she has turned it into.

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Ok. But traumatic things affect people differently.

I have spoken to Karen a great deal and she is very shaken.

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He intends too , if she does not stop her harassment and bunny boiler tactics if she does desist her behaviour and I am not referring to the blog antics.

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If he thinks he has a case then let him do it. But he is not an innocent reporting a guilty. Much more complicated.

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@6:37 Feck off. I said nothing on social media that wasn’t the truth. Giving myself credit for my photos is not a crime. I am well prepared for a war. Tell Fitzgerald to do his worst.

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5.44pm Get a room, you 2 – there might be one free in The Boiler House if the priests haven’t pre/booked them all what with the RoI bank holiday approaching. Failing that one of those Glenstal beehive pod things they charge a bomb for might be available.

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This must be a first! Mass on a lilo……with a priest in swimming shorts. He’s got a nice chunky body though.

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7.56 not quite – the well connected Ennis priest Fr Jerry Carey liked to wank in full view of public in his car at Galway beach. You will find details in the limited newspaper reports online.

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11.08pm yet another relevant example proving that clergy should be barred from schools and similar settings. Zero tolerance is only solution as they consistently victimise the victim when complaints are filed.

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1.26
No one is entitled to a list of employees and clergy are self employed also GPDR is in stu.
Compensation who from certainly not Killaloe Diocese so you will need to ask Ger and end up in a muck slinging show hurting the ones you are suppose to LOVE your children.
This blog is your caberet show and maybe Father richard will do a special apperance.

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2.13 GDPR exists to protect private citizens, another outstanding issue in noted practices by RCC. Killaloe & other relevant Diocese members & representatives that monitor this church whistleblower blog for the purposes of suppressing truth are informed to desist from harrassing parents on this blog by referring to their children & family members for the purposes of weaponisation in the self interests of Roman Catholic Church attempts to avoid responsibility for church related wrongdoing by its members.

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2:13 So sorry to disappoint you but comment at 1:26 was not me. I am not afraid to take credit for my words 🤣🤣🤣 Karen

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@2:13. Listen to me you dirty bastard. If you or any one else ever dares to try and manipulate me by bringing up my underage children in your comments, then I will start to release the Kraken on social media and create a shitstorm so big for Killaloe Diocese that it will be picked up by the media. Don’t test me. I’m warning you for the last time.

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This is the New Order version of the Ambrosian Rite, after Consecration, when the priest extends his hands. The Dominican Rite has similar, I think. It seemed to be deeply foolish, but at least this priest said sorry.
Anyhow I hope Fr Richard Geoghegan is restored to the exercise of his priesthood. I hope the ACP representative apologised to Fr for not protecting him from that railroading, as the Americans might it. Some worker representatives, ie trade unions, can be cronies and pals of the bosses.

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Symmachus
Richard will never get back giving the standard of this blog.
They will all close rank around Phonsie.

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5.41pm Karen please check before you make such a threatening comment – there are two comments @ 2:13 so please think before you spout your venom.

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Understandable pat, people do get hurt and deal with things differently. She is not shook she is bitter because he didn’t reciprocate he’s feelings. She feels used, she was not abused. She is the aggressor and harassing and abusing.

If she is shook now she will not handle any repercussions that may come her and it will be nobodies fault but her own.

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Nothing complicated about it Pat.

She is the aggressor and harasser.

He is entitled to decide who he does and not want in he’s life or who he associates with, without being bullied and harassed endlessly privately by Karen.

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He was interested in historical stuff she had. They became friends. I had thought it was pursuit, but it wasnt.

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7.01 that is a very serious allegation. If true, Fr Ger Fitzgerald should send a solicitors letter & furnish the names of his witnesses to same Solicitor in preparation for Trial. Making allegations of “private” harrassment against this lady will have to be backed up in Court with evidence & witnesses. It seems imprudent of Fr Fitzgerald to communicate serious allegations whilst many proven allegations against himself are unresolved and I understand some of these allegations to be the subject of a Garda enquiry.

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This is what brings the NO into disrepute and plays into the hands of the LLL (lace – Latin – leather) brigade (all admiring his chunky body too of course!)

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Standing up for yourself doesn’t make you argumentative. Sharing your feelings doesn’t make you oversensitive. Saying no doesn’t make you uncaring or selfish. If someone won’t respect your feelings, needs and boundaries, the problem isn’t you, it’s them. Lori Deschene

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Clerics and their Cathbots won’t respond to someone their own size, isn’t that right, Bishop Alphonsus Cullinane???

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9.55

If only Fr Richard had shown a little intelligent forethought and not ‘dragged’ the priesthood into disrepute, then he wouldn’t be where he is today.

Pat Buckley has blogged on priests who bring the priesthood into disrepute with modern, avante-garde liturgical shows. I’m surprised he took the line he did with Fr Richard’s televised performance.

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Fr Richards appearance on TV had nothing to do with his being maltreatment by Phonsie.

Phonsie being the “small” man he is was jealous of Richard from the beginning and resented his wonderful interaction with everyone he met.

I had the same problem with that other small man Cackle Daly aka The Ould Nun.

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9.18
Fr Richard Geoghegan – still waiting for justice after situation instigated by Bishop Phonsie, Waterford & Lismore Diocese.

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10.27 so another priest in Waterford & Lismore can do goodness knows what with €70k & Bishop Phonsie sorts it out for him but Fr Richard Geoghegan is punished for appearing on RTE. Sounds like extreme unchristian jealousy and spite by any standard on the part of this Irish Bishop.

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Phonsie refers to me as “pure evil” 😀

He should look in the 🪞 mirror 🪞

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9.18 Bishop Phonsie and his repeated outbursts and gaffes in the media & elsewhere are damaging to the image of the Church. Fr Richard Geoghegan showed us that despite the likes of the Bishop Phonsie, some priests are nice, normal, kind individuals. Hopefully Fr Richard will be back on our screens and on the pulpit again soon. Best wishes to him. Phonsie is a miserable toad for what he did to Fr Richard.

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3.52 check who buys the most advertising from that journalists employer if u finding them a bit slow on the uptake.

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“young people living with you” – 1 Would this not be against all safeguarding prcedures in the church ?2 Are we seeing infront of us the Roman Catholic version of Bishop Peter Ball ?Just what is going on in that house ?I think the the police need to be contacted out of concern .

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4.27
You are not a regular reader of the blog, are you? Otherwise you would have known that Pat Buckley himself sometimes has young people live in his home on occasion, for various reasons.

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On occasion I have people of all ages stay with me because they are homeless or have an addiction.

From the time they arrive the emphasis is finding them their own home. Their stay here is am emergency measure.

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4:27 am
What are the age ranges of the ‘young people’?
Why are ‘young people’ living with a Catholic Bishop?
What are the backgrounds of the ‘young people’?

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1.32

Have you had teenage boys and girls stay with you, Pat? In all fairness, if you are going after Phonsie for this, then you, too, have a case to answer if you are putting up teenage boys and girls in your home. It’s irrelevant how long they stay with you.

Are there minors among them?

Have you been vetted by the PSNI for this?

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Everybody that has stayed here has been 18+

And yes, I have been police vetted.

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1:32
Very imprudent in the context of endless abuse scandals in the Church.
Is there no place else in Waterford to provide accommodation ?

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They seem to be late teenage boys and girls and from the US. Maybe part of Phonsie’s Opus Dei Cult?

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To “concerned” @ 12.42 – you might Provide proof that both PSNI Disclosure & Garda vetting has been revoked for the relevant subject clergy in outstanding matters.

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The Archdiocese of Armagh is certainly an entity of catholicity and universalism from a reading of those changes, a very international collection indeed. To the relief of some: I am travelling today, a long journey and quick turnaround ( interview) so I shall be out of signal for today and more. I wish the blog well for its deliberations on that unconscionable man in Waterford and Lismore. Modeh Ani . A bientot, La Mer……….( did you see the letter in the IT recently, to solve the baggage problem at Dublin airport, it was suggested to put the luggage in the cabins and the passengers in the holds…Lol…). WM

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Will Pope Francis have to make a return trip to Ireland to apologize again due to shenanigans of priests north and south.

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As I expected and hoped for; The Canadian Government is throwing the kitchen sink at Bergoglio. The fraud never mentioned abuse by the multinational that he is CEO of: They will sort his insincerity before he leaves Canadian soil; this trip will be a disaster for his PR machine. Deo Gratias. WM

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Trudeau has had his hair cut…..makes him look younger. He’s an attractive guy…..quite effeminate

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The worst sin for a diocesan or company man is not to be a ‘team player’ and those who don’t play ball are punished accordingly.

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Aidan Gordon from Ara Coeli made several anonymous contributions to this site yesterday. Disingenuity at play and corporate tricks re health.

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I have said it several times but this is why I think Pat would be well advised to abandon comments on the blog, while still allowing response by subjects of the blog if emailed to him.
The apparatchiks of the cult have no scruples whatsoever.

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Pat, As Corporal Jones used to say and so applicable to Phonsie and his ilk “ they don’t like it up’em”

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9.04
Actually, they don’t mind at all, provided it’s the truth and not the unsubstantiated, wild speculation sometimes found on this blog.

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9.56 you’d like everyone to “think” it’s sometimes wild speculation wouldn’t you Father. The fact that it “bothers” you & you keep searching for it speaks volumes. Can’t wait for your retort claiming “I’m not a priest”!! 🤣😇

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5.17

Individual priests aren’t wealthy enough to sue you, Pat. Civil action costs a fortune.

I think everyone (sorry to say this) just gives you a fool’s pardon.

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If they had good cases lawyers would represent them pro bono
Lawyers have represented me pro bond
They have NO CASE because I’ve told the TRUTH

Truth is the “perfect defence” to defamation.

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Pat, Bryan is right. The Romanists won’t give you the oxygen of publicity by going after you legally. It’s a smart move. It guarantees that in time it will all just blow over. Sad to say, this is what seems to be happening.

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My blog is available on the World Wide Wed and had 2,600,000 readers this year

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Can richard not take a constructive dismissal case through our courts as he was an employee of the RCC.

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The tribunals do not recognise priests as employees but as sub contractors 😞

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An individual is classed as an employee if
1. Is under the control of another person who directs as to how when and where the work is carried out.
2. Receives a fixed hourly/ weekly/monthly wage.
3. Does not assume any responsibilty for material investment in the company.
4. Works set hours or a given number of hours per month.
5.works for one business
6.receives expense payments to cover subsistence.
More information from
Caroline Reidy the HR suite website.

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This all started with his drag session on TV…. it is clearly either gender or sexual orientation related. The Irish Republic is about to introduce a Non Disclosure Act. It has almost finished on the Seanad and the government do not oppose it. It got 100% support to date. Richard may revisit his deal in time. He may also seem his pension when pension age… if he has a good solicitor. Best of luck.

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Richard is not a drag artist. He did that piece on the cruise as a party piece.

He was loved in Carrick on Suir and everywhere he went.

He was a victim of the Green Eyed Monster.

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1.36
No one said that Fr Richard was a drag artiste, but his televised performance WAS a drag session nevertheless.
Clue: Fr Richard was dressed as a woman.

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9.47 like all lawyers & other business professionals, the Roman Catholic Church operates & benefits from carefully studied & structured implementations of manipulations of loopholes in the legal & other systems in jurisdictions. They are extremely competent if unethical in this regard when one considers their advertised role in society & extremely water tight legally as many a clergyman and others who fall foul of them will testify. Classifying priests as sub contractors basically means they have as little rights as a hod carrier on a day rate on a building site.

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3:00pm
We’re getting close to the bone regarding great distress to those affected by child sexual abuse, and abuse of vulnerable adults including their families. Again, there appears to be one set of standards for clergy particularly bishops and another set of standards for victims/survivors, mere sheeple. If this blog is so pathetic how come over the last three days hundreds of comments on Bishop Cullinan including you @3:00pm. Circle the wagons like 2016. See where it gets the hierarchy.Victims/survivors are also human like you @3:00pm.

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Yesterday, Pat, you said that we (you and I) shouldn’t attempt to diagnose anyone with mental-health issues as neither of us was a psychiatrist or a psychologist. So, can you explain your statement on today’s blog about Bishop Cullinan, that he has ‘serious mental, emotional and psychosexual problems’?
Did you aquire, overnight, a professional qualification in psychiatry or psychology that enabled you to make such a comprehensive assessment of the bishop? And what evidence (medical evidence) have you for it?

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9.51 Bang on. Do please explain Pat ? Why do you do this and allow others the same facility when neither you nor they are qualified to diagnose anything, let alone doing it in cyber space? Very valid question.

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Bill Mulvihill does not torment and destroy individuals.

But all Phonsie’s behaviour and actions point to serious internal matters.

I have not put a diagnosis on him. I will leave that to the professionals.

We are allowed to draw conclusions from peooles behaviour.

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10.13

Bill Mulvihill does not torment and destroy individuals? You have to be kidding. Mulvihill, facilitated by you Pat Buckley, has made, on your blog, some extremely serious allegations against certain people, but didn’t ever substantiate one of them. How can you, Pat Buckley, know what effect these allegations had on Mulvihill’s targets? Did you visit them all to find out?

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I have not seen those individuals take Bill to court.

Bill is partly a whistle-blower.

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But its ok for members of the kooky kollard klub to diagnose others especially when they don’t like what others have to say….am I right or am I right…chaps..?

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10.18 should post their real name if he or she is going to make allegations against Mr William Mulvihill. The poster at 10.18 is clearly trying to shut down more of the truth coming out about various members of the Roman Catholic Church. One is reminded that telling the truth is not slander or libel, on the other hand, harrassing witness to silence them constitutes “perverting the course of justice”. The complicity of clerical & lay members of RCC worldwide in coverup & vigorous defence up all manner of abuse & criminality is well documented so one might as well piss against the North Atlantic wind from a high cliff top as deny it aka known as “egg on your face, Poper Gropers & Supporters”.

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10.18 I’d love to have your airmiles, you must be inflight full time dealing with all the unresolved Roman Catholic Church related abuse & criminality.

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Never mind my posting my birth name, you get the time references right first. You should have said 11.18, not 10.18.

I spoke the truth about Mulvihill: he hasn’t once substantiated even a single allegation of his on this pathetic blog. These can only have caused great distress to those affected by them, and to their families.

Mulvihill is a fool casting unsubstantiated and hurtful accusations, at will, and Pat Buckley, like a latterday Matthew Hopkins (the self-styled Witchfinder General, of the 17th century) believes that Mulvihill, the Village Idiot, ‘always’ tells the truth. It would be comical were it not for the fact that these fools, together, are hurting many people unnecessarily.

However, Pat Buckley, being a moral and intellectual coward, will not publish this, because his massive ego will not permit him to be outargued and upstaged.

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We are “hurting” morally compromised and hypocritical priests and bishops.

And they don’t like it one little bit …..

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9.10 the courts & prison systems conduct full mental and physical diagnostics prior to trial & again on admission 🐎

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That’s not diagnosing someone. I could say you’re stupid and you would think it is was an IQ assessment.

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11.18 Name the allegations you say are untrue that Bill Mulvihill made ? In his absence , you are taking poyshots. He has never made one false allegation. Name them ?

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Yes, it IS a diagosis. Pat Buckley went beyond generalisations about Bishop Cullinan. In fact, he was quite specific: ‘mental, emotional, AND psychosexual problems’. This statement, especially the term ‘psychosexual’, constitutes a professional assessment, except that it isnt, since Pat Buckley, by his own admission, has no qualifications in either psychiatry or psychology.

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I did not make a professional diagnosis.

Having watched Phonsie that is my opinion.

The professions can give him a clean bill of health of diagnose Bi Polar ? Personality Disorder etc..

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11.28
I didn’t say that Mulvihill’s allegations were untrue: I said that he hadn’t substantiated any of them.

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Victims & Survivors of RCC related abuse & victimisations will not tolerate being labelled as mad, bad etc.says:

11.28 clergy and their laity are infamous for branding victims & survivors mad, bad, sad – never met one yet with a professional qualification authorising them to slander victims in this way in an effort to discredit them in the best interests of the Roman Catholic Church.

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11:28 Show us all the numbers for those diagnoses in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual and the International Classification of Diseases. 🐴

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1.30
Are you from The States?
This is the United Kingdom.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is a publication by the AMERICAN Psychiatric Association.
I repeat: this is the United Kingdom.

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3.52

Monaco? So, why did you mention an American publication on a blog you must have known is published by a chap called Pat Buckley, who blogs from the UK?

Lie down for a while, but not in that hot sun: it will only do more damage to you than it already has. 😅

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1:57 Actually this is Monaco.
I love it when the cathbots show how truly parochial – the exact opposite of Catholic – their preoccupations and concerns are.

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3:17 My accountant insists I spend part of the year here
Still not come up with any diagnosis in either system I see. 😆

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11.22

You haven’t seen them take Mulvihill to court? Relevance?

This is a deflection from my earlier comment: that you cannot know whether Mulvihill’s unsubstantiated allegations, on your blog, against certain people did not destroy them. You said that Mulvihill had destroyed no one, and yet, you couldn’t possibly have known whether this was true, since you visited none of the individuals concerned to find out. In other words, you simply made up that comment.

By the way, it is a non sequitur to deduce, from a lack of court action, that an individual must, therefore, be guilty. Didn’t your barrister father tell you that civil action against a loose cannon like Mulvihill can be very expensive? Not everyone has that kind of money, Pat Buckley. Perhaps you do. In which case, you shouldn’t presume someone else’s lack of wealth as an indicator of guilt.

It is easy, cowardly, and cost-free for Mulvihill, facilitated by you Pat Buckley, to make serious allegations against someone, while knowing that they cannot hit back.

And it is easy for you as well, Pat Buckley, since you know very well that you cannot be trusted to keep your word on the right to an unedited reply on your blog. Not only have you edited my replies (and others), but you refused to publish some of them. For the record, not one of my replies was abusive in any way.

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Bill knows where the bodies are buried and in my opinion always tell the truth.

This is my blog and I moderate it. It is I who decide what is abusive or inappropriate.

If you don’t like that – start your own blog.

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2:38 Only if one of the faithful does it. If a priest does it, it’s his private life and he’s struggling and the heavenly father is merciful.

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5.55pm International Airport. That sounds like a threat. If you wish to be more explicit, I shall be happy to report you to the police or Gardai? Are you threatening me ?

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5.35
There he goes again, off on a delusional tangent.
International Airport? What’s all that about, you utter looper and fantasist, Mulvihill.
You are as mentally retarded as that freak, Buckley, for putting ‘100 %’ faith in a complete lunatic.
Keep going, Buckley. We all love a laugh, at your expense.😅😅😅

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7:09 Are ye jealous love or were ye never in an international airport. Were ye never in new york london paris or roma. Ye sounds like yer goin a bit loopy yerself love. Take a chill pill.

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@10:48 yes my understanding priests are not employees but self employed. And have to declare all income, donations, and probably misguided funds to ‘uncle sam’?

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Send Phonz to St Luke’s Washington and he may also get the same assessment as nonce Quigley “Bishop Phonz is finally able to forgive himself; he finds time to dream and write poetry”.

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Odds on next Episcopal Leader in Waterford & Lismore…
Odds on Interim Episcopal Leader…
Odds on long term Episcopal Leader…

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I find this blog a breath of fresh air. My inlaw is married to Bishop Fintan’s sister. I don’t like my relative been called ‘lugs Monaghan’. Several posts have described him as such. Bishop Fintan is very approachable and is willing to meet people. I don’t know what is happening in his Diocese and am not privy to same. Fintan is new to this Diocese and was Secretary to Archbishop Neary before his elevation to Killaloe.

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Invitation for Bishop Fintan Monahan, Diocese of Killaloe to directly address Bishop Pat Buckley blog in lieu of his alleged family member, John. Thank you.says:

10.54 If Fintan is so approachable then he should have no difficulty in communicating directly to the blog himself. He is fully aware and informed on the various outstanding issues in his Diocese. Incidentally, there is no “g” in the spelling of his surname, in-law!

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Please stop calling my relative ‘lugs’. He is a child of ‘God’. He deserves respect from yeah of little faith. Everyone is an individual and can make up there own minds. He has no hand,act or part in the supposed sagas of Killaloe. In regards to spelling, I see loads of spelling mistakes on this blog too many to count, even Pat made one the morning. Grow up and get a life.

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I used the correct title & spelling for Bishop Monahan @ 12.53. I am not responsible for what anyone else may wish to call him. The invitation to Bishop Monahan to reply remains open at all times. Now do him a favour, grow up & pass it on. Thank you.

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12.53pm John at 10:54am …. is 100% correct – Bishop Fintan has been called “lugs Monaghan as well as Monahan, several times on this blog – wonder, by who?

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3:11 John – You stated the following about Fintan Monahan: “He has no hand,act or part in the supposed sagas of Killaloe.”
You are a family member speaking out on the blog on behalf of the Bishop? Any other info about Fintan that you would like to share with us?

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Bishop Pat, I am full of admiration for you in your willingness and determination to speak truth to power. I am getting near retirement and I am sometimes disgusted at myself for having stood back on many occasions and failed to challenge clergy and bishops when they did very disgraceful things. I do not know where you get your strength from? I know that like us all you are not perfect but God has given you a great grace as a David standing against Goliath. I will visit you sometime to shake your hand.

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Thank you. You 100% right about me not being perfect. With Peguy I say: “I am a sinner but a good sinner”.

We can only follow our consciences and hope that God will guide and then forgive what we get wrong.

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11.21 look forward to your retirement and perhaps to liberate yourself as “The Mouse who finally roared”. No doubt you could write a blockbuster after a lifetime of insider observations and experiences. Many here would be willing to contribute factual essays with references from original sources. Make contact through Bishop Pat when you are ready.

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12.20

He’s more the lion who squeaked. 😅

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Pat, when the corrupt clergy are going all out to attack take it as a sign from the Lord that you are drilling in the right place. Keep drilling.

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Was the claim that Fr McAleer was going to St Mary’s University College Belfast pure mischief-making, or was the plan halted by exposure of it on the blog?

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1.11 The Killaloe Diocese retreat @ Glenstal Abbey for a victim being supported on this blog as they had allegedly been targetted & victimised by a priest of Killaloe Diocese – retreat was cancelled and mention of the victim being on this blog that supports outstanding cases in Killaloe & elsewhere was mentioned. So perhaps there are parallels if Fr McAleer is also no longer going to St Mary’s University College, Belfast. It is distasteful in the extreme to observe a victim of church related abuse being treated in the equivalent manner as an alleged deviant clergyman being Fr Ryan McAleer who remains in office.

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Pat I see mention on your blogsote today about people staying in your house in Larne. I was one of them over 15 years ago now and I am a Protestant from East Belfast. You helped me off the smack and booze. I have stayed in aa and na. I am living with my partener and we got two kids. You turned me around mate thank you.

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I remember you very well G. I only helped. You fought the addiction battle yourself and won, thank God. Sometime you are down this way bring your girlfriend and children to say hello. Pat.

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That’s a great outcome. Well done to Pat and to this man for turning his life around and settling down and having a family.

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The laicisation document says that:
“It will be necessary for the Bishop to take care that any functions or services that may eventually be entrusted to him will not cause wonderment or scandal among the faithful.”
However many of the MIA end up as hospital chaplains. Indeed the Bons Secour seems to be an active recruiter of ex-priests. Does having ex-priests working as RE teachers, chaplains and lay staff in Maynooth and Trocaire nit cause wonderment and scandal? Why do lay people bother doing hospital chaplaincy courses if chaplaincy jobs are kept back for ex-priests and ex-deacons?

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2:08
Two points:
1. There are currently more women chaplains in Hospitals/Hospices/Prisons than men or ex-priests in Ireland.
2. When a priest leaves the priesthood their qualifications only apply to a small number of religious based positions, therefore canon law is illogical and redundant. Although the Bishop can withhold a letter of recommendation, the job is given based on the qualifications and interview by an impartial panel. The HSE/NHS/Civil Service cannot discriminate therefore many will not heed or tolerate the Bishops interference in the matter.
Fr. Richard Geoghegan should retrain and become a teacher or chaplain. If Bishop Phonsie interferes with Fr. Richard, he should bring him to court, win hundreds of thousands and sever any influence the Church has in state run institutions!

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2.08 how dare the Bon Secours private hospital who charge a small fortune for treatment subject patients to potential exposure from problematic clergymen.

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3.22: What a silly comment. Utterly banal. God bless the chaplains whoever they may be. You people…are you ever happy?

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@3.22 exactly, can you imagine being fortunate enough to wake up from an operation in The Bons only to find a reprobate that’s featured on this blog leering down at you. Jesus Christ Almighty & the Blessed Sacrament, May God protect us all.

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Upon consultation and reflection upon the pastoral needs of the people of the Diocese of Kilmore, Bishop Martin Hayes has made the following appointments, effective from 3rd September 2022.
Very Rev. Donald Hannon, CC Arva to retire.
Very Rev. Peter Casey, PP, Kilmore to be CC Drumcor.
Very Rev. Oliver O’Reilly, PP Kildallan to be CC Arva.
Very Rev. John McTiernan, PP Annagh to be Adm. Annagh.
Very Rev. Eamonn Lynch, PP Killinkere to retire.
Very Rev. Brian Flynn, PP Laragh to be CC Munterconnaught.
Msgr. Liam Kelly, PP, VG, Kilsherdany and Drung to be PP, Kildallan.
Very Rev. Seán McDermott, PP Ballintemple to also be Adm. Kilmore.
Rev. Martin Gilcreest, CC Cavan to be PP Laragh.
Rev. Darragh Connolly, Priest in Residence Drumkilly to be PP Killinkere.
Rev. Loughlain Carolan, Adm, Killinagh and Glangevlin to be PP Killinagh and Glangevlin.
Rev. Yusuf Bamai, CC Kilsherdany and Drung to be PP Kilsherdany and Drung.
Rev. Thomas Small, Priest in Residence Shercock to be CC in Cavan.
Rev. Anthony Kidarathil, CC Munterconnaught to be CC Shercock.

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I was on vacation in Waterford last week and visited the graves of my family in Tallow Kilwatermoy And Knockanore. The churches have an empty feel about them paint peeling old notices on bulletin board yellow from age strong smell of mound. The cemetery’s are overpowering with one family trying to outdo the other with huge monuments and pictures of the deceased from many years ago. I then visited Mount Melleray and left feeling sad that a place I loved as a child was close to abandoned .At evening prayer a few very elderly monks tried to full fill their vows can’t imagine what they are going through in their final years.I guess this is what it looks like when the Catholic Church starts to fall apart from lack of leadership. I have returned to New York but am haunted by what I saw and heard about the priests that are trying to provide services to the local parishners .Ireland is a beautiful island

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Kraken Up: CW. McCall: 'Cause we got a great big convoy Rockin' through the night Yeah, we got a great big convoy, Ain't she a beautiful sight C'mon and join our Convoy Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way We gonna roll this truckin' convoy...says:

Any joint Church/State cover up with input from Denis J. Lane O Kelly et al, involving W&L, Ossory, Cashel & Emly Dioceses?

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There are some very angry clerics commenting today. I wonder why, when the blog post says nothing Pat hasn’t said about him previously and other people have agreed with.

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There are days like today when you can feel the deep heat of clerics fearing exposure.

This heat is a sign that what we do is both necessary and right.

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Welcome to this blog for victims & survivors or Roman Catholic Church related abuse, corruption & criminality.says:

3.44pm Agreed. Nothing less will persuade the RCC that truth, transparency and justice are the only viable solutions & not vilification & suppression of victims & survivors of church related abuse & wrong doing carried out in the interests of the financial well being of the Roman Catholic Church and at most grevious cost in terms of personal, emotional & financial damage & loss to their targets that they seek to suppress and shut down in their own interests.

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Pat at 3:44 absolutely. I think something William has said has wound them up rather than the post about Phonsie. He’s obviously commented a deep secret and we love to see it.

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Most priests that leave ministry leave in good standing and are entitled to work at whatever profession they wish after laicization. All the bad eggs that leave can choose whatever profession they wish once they pass garda vetting. Chaplaincy is a common role chosen as its compliments their study and life choice. Ex priests make good chaplins.

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All dispensations state that former clerics are not to teach in seminaries or have a directional role within the church. Yet, Liverpool has one on their diocesan tribunal, and Edmund Adamus, a former cleric, is now head of formation centre for the Sovereign Military And Hospitaller Order of St John, of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta. I suppose The church distinguishes good leavers from bad leavers?

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You almost have it with your good and bad leavers. Just change the vowel in l-vers and you have it. 😍

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@4:43 Are you referring to my surname by any chance? If yes, you are sadly mistaken 🤣

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Bill Mulvihill and the Kraken are allowed to post what they want. Every other opinion is suppressed by Pat. Bill offers insight and knowledge and has insulted no one. The Kraken only offers smoke and mirrors and attacks anyone who does not agree with her or asks for evidence. Another one for the bin Pat. Beware the Kraken, she will try to destroy you as well Pat.

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Diddums then.
If you were merely interested in expressing your own view you could (and should) start your own blog. You can do this for free with Blogger and WordPress.
But that’s not what interests you is it?
I think you’re actually bothered by views expressed here and want to shut them up. In true churchy fashion, you passive aggressively express this as a dissatisfaction that your view isn’t published. Because obviously that’s the only one that matters to you and your angst is that the church can no longer control the narrative.
The internet has created so much trouble for the church because information now flows freely.
Shame.

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@2.43 I have no interest in starting my own blog, it would probably have viewing numbers of 1 😂. I have nothing to do with the church, I have never met Pat but I have followed his career over the years, he is someone I admire and respect. I have no interest in controlling the narrative, quite the opposite in fact. My post was meant more as a message to Pat, fair play to him for publishing it.

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3:25
So what has your collar in a twist? You sound like an overgrown teenager having a tantrum.
Beware of bull!

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@ 3:23
You sound confused, I wonder why. For a fellow claiming to have nothing to do with the church comments seem to bother you to such an extent you feel the need to message Pat.
Do you work for the Government, I wonder. Mind yourself like a good man. Cheers!

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@3:25 If your referring to someone else here as the kraken it doesn’t portend well for the quality or manners of any comment you make.

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@3:25 Pat has stood by me throughout this ordeal and never once turned his back on me. He will not listen to your rubbish comments about me.

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Will Bishop Cullinan tell the Faithful if the House for Clergy Under Correction, referred to in linked article, was established in Belmont Park Hospital. To the best of my knowledge, Denis J Lane O Kelly joined the staff of Belmont Park Hospital in 1955. Apparently, the House For Clergy Under Correction was open to not only priests attached to the Irish dioceses but also priests attached to dioceses in Britain, and Irish priests generally, whether secular or religious. Any comment, Bishop Cullinan…?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/secret-house-for-immoral-clergy-set-up-in-the-1940s-26373790.html

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5:18
Seriously, Bishop Pat. Back in the day when Bishop Lee was in the ‘hot seat’ I was on the deliverance prayer team of a monk of Mt. Melleray Abbey. In fact, he gave me a reference for a position in the diocese late 2008, not long after Dom Eamon was elected AG of OCSO. I’m curious to know who has the exorcist mantle.

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Bishop Buckley I’m sitting here watching all the Boilerhouse priests trying to distract you from your God given duty of exposing the filthy underbelly of the RCC and its perfidious clergy and bishops.
They don’t seem to get it that you are a 40 year veteran of your good work and will not be put off course by anyone.
Keep up the good work. Be the second Patrick to drive these snakes out of existence 👏 👏 👏

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Why do so many priests leave after ordination? Their departure rate must be higher than the divorce rate but whereas the divorced are shunned and treated as second class citizens by the Church, ex-priests can just waltz into a different churchy-type job.
Are they letting the wrong people into seminary or approving for ordination those who are unsuited to priesthood or too immature, even at the minimum average ordination of 25, to take on priesthood?

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Both. And also when you are a seminarian your entire life is aimed at the summit of ordination. After ordination the reality that you’ve been sold a pup sinks in.

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The whole seminary system is based on dishonesty and duplicity. Guys hang on to show determination and win their ordination tickets – like they’re contestants on The Apprentice. A couple of years in, the reality of the priesthood and the toxic institution they’ve joined sets in. Some find release in homosexual activity and drink, Others get out whilst they can. What’s surprising are the numbers who abandon their faith all together and renounce the church.

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4.36 & 5.25 are spot on. A great deal of a seminarian’s focus is not on ministry, but on achieving the goal of ordination itself. A seminary is an assault course with ordination the end point, rather than ministry being the goal. Then, after a honeymoon period, post-ordination fatigue and disalutionment sets in.

I can’t remember whether it was Vincent Twomey or Paddy Corish (both were members of the Maynooth staff) who complained that much of the final year in Maynooth was taken up with deacons fussing about their ordination vestments and organising the big day, instead of using what was meant to be a pastoral year to get ready for service. Like a marriage, there needs to be less focus on the big day and more on life after it.

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Out of interest, do Anglicans have the same attrition rates? If not, why? Is it clerical celibacy or better formation?

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9.16pm asks a very good question and worthy of study. It could also look at the attrition rate among Eastern Catholic and Orthodox clergy. My impression is that Anglican clergy have much lower attrition rates. Among RCC priests in the last couple of decades, most will leave within 5-10 years of ordination, but only this blog talks about it.

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7.33
The last year as a deacon has now to be spent in a Parish involving all sorts of parish work, prisons, hospitals and schools not planning their big day or vestments.
The Dicastery for Catholic Education has been very clear about it.

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I remember many years ago being at a Catholic function in a Belfast hotel. One insufferable pretentious oul cathbot biddy was giving it her all about her son who, having completed his 3 years in The Wing at St Malachy’s , was now off to Rome rather than Maynooth. Rome was usually the preserve of the clever clogs. The unwashed went to Maynooth
He was eventually ordained at a big ceremony with about 200 guests at a hotel afterwards.
Within 5 years he was away. Last heard off living in London with his male partner.
I could never resist asking his overbearing Mammy how he was getting on.
You should have seen her oul coupon when I would ask her how her pride and joy was and I would twist the knife by saying it was such a waste!

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6.53

Wrong about Rome’s being the destination for ‘clever clogs’. Wee Joe Rooney was sent there. A BA general graduate of Queen’s.

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Yes, that was a myth the Rome students liked to inculcate. Many ofthem never learned more than a few phrases of Italian and relied on hand me down notes in English, for the not exactly taxing Roman courses.

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Now sit Down @ 7-47
This incident happened many years ago and that seemed to be the way it was then

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Karen should be referred to as Karenage, because that’s what she she brings 🤣 time to tell Terry the truth now before I do of what you have said about him here

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Who are you? Ger or Richard Purcell? Terry tells the truth unlike you spineless spawn of Satan who masquerade as priests.

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8.53 Is a threat, They are not saying Terry does not tell the truth they are threatening Karen to tell Terry the Truth or they will it is a threat.

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@10:36 Terry lives in my house. They set one foot on my property and they will be arrested on the spot. I have not said anything untrue about Terry so why should I be afraid? They are the ones who should be fearful because Terry is on the side of the truth.

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@5.41, Jesus Christ would you give it a rest, you have written so much on this blog about your unhappy marriage. Not affording to send your kids to private school etc
You bring your own kids into it, everyone knows who you are now.
Your neighbours do, your local shop keepers do, the gym and cafes in Castleconnell do, Ennis does
You have it all up, so put up or shut
The name calling, the threats, the abuse towards people who question you
Disgraceful behaviour
And dont bother reply ‘ok Ger” because I’m not Ger just someone reading this, sick of the damage you are doing to real victims.

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@9:19 I have not written the comments “Ok Ger”. I have said nothing about my children going to private school. They are not at the age for private school so that is a lie. I don’t give a damn who knows and who doesn’t know. It’s time for me to release the Kraken.

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9:19 I am sure that Pat will be very pleased to hear that everyone in Clare and Limerick knows who I am and reads the blog 🥳
By any chance, have you hacked into Pat’s Google Analytics? 🤣🤣🤣
You people really haven’t got a clue, have you? I do not care what anonymous keyboard warriors think of me…so stop your bitching and if you are so concerned about “real” victims, then why don’t you get up off your arse and off the blog, and go out and help some?

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9.19 what’s all this crap that everyone knows who she is, what’s it to do with the neighbours or the school or anyone else if she decides that she will NOT accept being targetted and used by a local priest now being protected by his Roman Catholic congregation & his Bosses, what new, abusive clergy & co always protected by abusive crooks in Roman Catholic Church – you do not have permission to govern anyone’s life, get lost and MYOB & learn that actions have consequences.

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Jesus found Peter, fresh from his betrayal just a few days before and said to him “Do you love me?” That broken man, ashamed, guilty, feeling like crap most likely, encountered the resurrected Jesus who smiled at him and wanted to know just one thing “Do You Love Me?” And Peter did. With that encounter Peter’s life was transformed and his ministry renewed. “Do you love me?”—“Feed my sheep!”

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The contrast between the treatment of Catholics whose marriages fail and Catholics whose priesthoods fail, is a striking one. Ex-priests dust themselves down, start all over again, might get a settlement or an unadvertised job in some Church body. The divorced, meanwhile are persona non grata, and only Pat offers them a chance to start all over again.

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Prayers for Fr Richard Geoghegan & all Suffering this night from RCC related wrong doingsays:

We love you God with all our might
Keep us safe throughout the night.
Amen.
Goodnight All

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