Categories
Uncategorized

THE IRISH CISTERCIAN CRISIS – POST RICHARD PURCELL SCANDAL.

Given the difficult situations of the communities of Mount Melleray, Roscrea, and Mellifont, during a meeting of superiors of the Region of the Isles in Brownshill (Bernardines, England) in June, the Abbot General proposed a plan, including the naming of one Father Immediate for all three communities and the appointment of one Monastic Commissary for all three communities. Each community would continue to live where it is, but there would be one formation house for all three communities, and other structures of mutual help.

This proposal was studied in the communities and, after reflection, all three communities, by a vote of their conventual chapter, agreed in principle to accept it. Suggestions from the communities were incorporated into the plan.

The juridical status of the communities has been as follows –

Mount Melleray: Since the resignation of Dom Richard Purcell as abbot of Mount Melleray in November 2021, the abbatial office has been vacant. The Father Immediate of Mount Melleray since October 2020 has been Dom Michael Ryan, abbot of Bolton.

MOUNT MELLERAY

Roscrea: Dom Malachy Thompson has been superior ad nutum of Roscrea since 2018. Since the abbatial office at Mt Melleray (Father Immediate of Roscrea) is vacant, Dom Michael Ryan of Bolton has functioned as Father Immediate of Roscrea since November 2021.

ROSCREA

Mellifont: Since the resignation of Dom Brendan Freeman as superior ad nutum of Mellifont in November 2021, the abbatial office has been vacant. Since the abbatial office at Mt Melleray (Father Immediate of Mellifont) is vacant, Dom Michael Ryan of Bolton has functioned as Father Immediate of Mellifont since November 2021.

MELLIFONT

After consultation with the communities, who expressed their consent by a vote of their respective conventual chapters,

(1) On July 16th, 2022Dom Michael Ryan of Bolton delegated his responsibility as Father Immediate of Mount Melleray to Dom Brendan Freeman of New Melleray Abbey.

(2) On July 16th 2022, the Abbot General, with the consent of his Council, in the name of the General Chapter appointed Dom Brendan Freeman of New Melleray Abbey as Father Immediate of Roscrea and of Mellifont.

(3) On August 2nd 2022 Dom Malachy Thompson offered his resignation as superior ad nutum of Roscrea to the Father Immediate, Dom Brendan Freeman, who accepted it.

(4) On August 3rd 2022 the Abbot General, with the consent of his Council, in the name of the General Chapter, suspended the exercise of the autonomy of the communities of Mount Melleray, Roscrea, and Mellifont, and authorised Dom Brendan Freeman, Father Immediate, to name a Monastic Commissary for all three communities in accordance with the Statute on Fragile Communities.

(5) On August 3rd 2022 Dom Brendan Freeman appointed Fr Rufus Pound as Monastic Commissary of Mount Melleray, Roscrea, and Mellifont. Dom Rufus is a monk of Mt St Bernard Abbey who had been claustral prior at Mellifont since November 2021. He will carry out his responsibilities in accordance with the Statute on Fragile Communities and with the plan mentioned above.

Further details will be given at the General Chapter in September.

PAT SAYS

What we are seeing here is the Cistercians regrouping for two reasons:

1. The decline of vocations.

2. The Richard Purcell scandal.

Really, the 5 Cistercian monasteries should be amalgamated in one monastery- probably the mother house Mount Mellerary.

But monks can be just as difficult as others and the monks are not all cooperating with the required changes.

The two monasteries with abbots – Portglenone in Antrim and Moone in Kildare are refusing to be amalgated.

The other three, Mellifont, Roscrea and Mellerary are now being turned into a monastery with three campuses with one novitiate one Commissary and one Father Immediate.

The Cistercians were already in great decline in Ireland.

PURCELL

Dick Purcell was the last straw the broke the camel’s back.

306 replies on “THE IRISH CISTERCIAN CRISIS – POST RICHARD PURCELL SCANDAL.”

Abbot Purcell and the cabal that support him are a thundering disgrace, they have created an impossible situation for the small population of elderly members remaining. That won’t both these utterly selfish clerics nor indeed Rawhide himself.

Like

So what has Abbot Brendan “I saw nothing” Coffey got to say about this then?
What’s bad will get worse…….

Like

Family of Patrick Nugent have confirmed in media that the Nugent family do not want guards investigating guards and the family have called for an outside agency to look at the case.

Like

Does Portglenone have an Abbot? Is Celsus Kelly not just Acting Superior since he reached 75?
Aelred (Gerry) Magee for next Abbot of Portglenone?

Like

8.41 Next time you run by me in your shorts at quite the speed( you are fit…I use that word as my generation did and as the young generation do !!!!!!), please say hello. You have a lovely parish. Civility to the fringes please.

Like

I realise this comment is not related to today’s blog but, I have to know why a Dublin priest officiated at the civil ceremony of Joe Brolly and his new wife? From what I have researched, the Bishop must give permission for a priest to bless a civil marriage. Given that Joe is divorced with a number of children, I have to ask why a priest is blessing a civil union. Is this a new practice in the RCC?

Like

Joe Brollys latest wife, Laurita Blewitt is a cousin of US President, Joe Biden. Do you get it now?

Like

12.08 Priests paw was well greased & a good publicity stunt for Padre & his Bishop. Priests do far worse things for money these days, read back over the archive or look around where you live.

Like

I was about to ask the same question. As Joe was married for many years and fathered five children is it possible he obtained an annulment ? If so why wasn’t he married in church.?. ( for example Daniel and Majella O’ Donnell ) And is a marriage celebrated by the side of a river recognised in Church law.? And do you have to be famous to get one of these annulments? Many questions. Can you help us out here + Pat.

Like

@9:27 Have often wondered how wee Daniel and his wife got married in a church. Did Fr. Trendy who turns up to all these gigs for different singers, weddings, funerals etc have something to do with it. I see Fr. Trendy had a funeral in Waterford last week.

Liked by 1 person

But i thought the pope aided by the Holy Spirit is infallible and always right.
Its starting to look like the fairy story of the king with no clothes. Are joes children from his first marriage now not recognised by the church as in the church eyes joe was in an invalid marriage.

Like

9.27 it maybe helps if the bride is related to devout Roman Catholic, President Joe Biden. He’s making about as good a job of running America as Fraudulent Frankie is Sauna Vatican 🇻🇦 🇺🇸

Like

Your ordination should be annuled. Why do they never annul the ordination of priests, yet the annul marriages when one or both party falls out of love and then conveniently decides it was a big sham.

Like

There it is again the powers that be singing from different hymn sheets and confusing people. The synod will not change anything as a shism will occur if majpor changes happen. Major changes would mean that former popes were wrong in their teachings.

Like

10.57 they don’t even publish the names of lay management & volunteers for each parish. Why and what are they hiding?

Like

Of course they were wrong. Sure didn’t past popes teach that God was cosy with capital punishment? This Pope isn’t and doesn’t. 😀

Like

11:44 Anyone with any knowledge of scripture and salvation history knows that God is just fine with the death penalty, slavery, genocide, in fact all sorts of deaths and is most certainly not pro life. 😂

Like

12.51

You know what? I think God is like the rest of us (well, we ARE made in his/her/their image): he can change his mind as well. Evolve, like.

(Understanding sigh 😔) God gets it wrong, too, sometimes.

Like

I’ve been told that once the State accepts a priest as a solemniser they can celebrate non-religious weddings too, like a registrar. Can anyone with more knowledge confirm or deny?

Like

To celebrate religious marriages you must be nominated by a church. I imagine that when a priest leaves tge RCC his nomination by the RCC would be withdrawn.
I am the nominating person for The Oratory Society. I can nominate persons and withdraw the nomination.
Each religious body must also submit its rite of marriage to the registrar general.
Nobody can celebrate marriages without being nominated by a church a religious body of a humanist nominator.

Like

Just to reiterate an important fact here, which is that Dom Richard was ELECTED abbot by the chapter of Roscrea and subsequently ELECTED abbot by the chapter of Mount Melleray. Whatever the impact of his abbacy it was self inflicted.
It also isn’t true that the monasteries had no other option. I believe Dom Richard had to get a dispensation to be abbot, either through age or length of profession, so normally would not have been the obvious candidate. If there was no obvious candidate for abbot the monks could have asked for a superior from another monastery, could have elected a monk of another monastery, could have asked for an arrangement like the one now in place or asked to be suppressed.
In the past few years in the English Benedictine Congregation both Downside and Portsmouth have had monks of other monasteries appointed prior administrator and have then elected them abbot. The whole point of these orders and confederations is that you get help.
Incidentally if some of these monasteries were of women, under Cor Orans they certainly would be suppressed post haste. I don’t know why it’s accepted that unviable communities of men limp on.

Liked by 1 person

12.18 His ‘election’ was a little more intricate than that, it was assiduously planned. Not self inflicted, but definitely inflicted.

Like

William, as you know the slightest acquaintance with monastic history soon tells you how monasteries are hotbeds of politicking, competition and intrigue.
St Benedict’s monks tried to MURDER him and if these monks know that story but haven’t learned anything from it they deserve everything they get.

Liked by 1 person

Fr Benedict Andersen of Silverstream Monastery reported to Sarah McDonald of The Irish Independent newspaper in September 2021 that there was a culture of habitual boundary crossing in almost every area of community life: spiritual, emotional, physical and material/financial. This is also commonplace outside of Silverstream monastery. Report your concerns and experiences with documentary evidence to Bishop Pat.

Like

10.30 Did not like to say but your comment brings it on; I mean it entirely respectfully and seriously , it is indeed very sad; where you find a monastery in the last 100/150 years, invariably there is a Psychiatric Facility not too far away. Monasteries; terrible places for the vulnerable monks in the power of the more powerful ones ( like Choir Sisters and Lay Sisters in a Mercy Convent…appalling.) Stroud was founded to “help’ those sisters.

Like

William at 11:10 In the past I think monasteries numbered many among lay brothers or extern sisters who may have been considered ‘sub’ at the time or would be considered vulnerable today. Nowadays after so many decades of education, nobody in a monastery is actually legally vulnerable. The word you are looking for is foolish.
This may sound like I’m being very harsh but my view is founded on experience.
For example in a certain monastery in England an elderly monk was treated like absolute shit by his abbot and everyone felt sorry for him. When you know that that monk voted for the abbots profession in full knowledge of all the good reasons he should not have been professed it looks different.
Feeling sorry for adults is just trying to excuse them from the consequences of their own actions.

Like

They are not happy about being moved around because of the irresponsible behaviour of their colleagues. Hard to blame them & most of them elderly.

Like

Google Roger Waters ( Pink Floyd) on Biden and Ukraine, for the enlightened keep going to his take on China and Taiwan. I am sure he would have the words for the Cistercians and Deenihan in two sentences.

Like

Waters is perfectly lucid and somewhat prophetic. He is a man that refuses to be told what to think by the Western Media.

Like

Roger Waters is responsible for a some of the greatest records in rock music. Unfortunately he, almost single handedly, inflicted The Wall on us. I’ll never forgive him for that bloated mess.

He, however, has an over inflated opinion of himself and is guilty of some dreadful treatment of fans and the other members of Pink Floyd.

I’m surprised at you championing him as his is very anti Isarel and is very critical of other artists who play there.

Liked by 1 person

He isnt. He’s being contrarian because Dave Gilmour – the heart of Pink Floyd – is pro Ukrainian.

Liked by 1 person

Cybepunk why is supporting the Palestinian people anti-Israel. Ask some of the Palestinian Christians about their suffering. The RC Patriarch of Jerusalem Archbishop Sabbah said “We have been told that you have no right to exist. And those delivering this message to us are the rulers of the earth today.” Thank goodness people like Roger Waters won’t go with the world flow.

Like

I understand that it COULD be possible to support Palestinain people without being Anti-Israel but Roger Waters is most definately in the anti- Israel camp and actively so.

Like

12.19 Nice of Daddy Biden to wire US$100,000 to Baby Hunter who spent US€30,000 on Russian sex workers between November 2018 & March 2019. That Romanian pimp must be kicking himself that he missed out on Brollys wedding party.

Like

You overreached him there Bill. That encapsulation would fill more than the proverbial chapter.
Not a sentence to ignore.

Like

Overreached? Not at all. Shock that a former man of God would be supporting Russia, China etc – yes. Clearly Bill knows absolutely nothing about Russia, that much is certain. Da vstrechi, durak.

Like

Pope Francis also spoke out against Nato’s provocation of Russia. Wars always start with a cause – and sadly the US seems to be at the heart of all provocations under the guise of championing democratic values!

Like

I don’t want to be, but I feel inclined to agree with your post. Nato has made Russia jittery with its invitation to former soviet union countries to join the organisation. Latvia, Estonia, and Lituania have already done so; Ukraine was invited to do so.

I no longer feel that Putin should carry the whole of (or even most of) the blame for this horrid war.

Like

@3:06 Pure victim blaming. The terrorist state russia has menaced its neighbours, seizing part of Georgia in 2008 (S. Ossetia, the russian part is now hellishly poor in comparison, stilled ruinous after nearly). As a result of the Georgian Legion has fought hard in Ukraine since 2014, and shows little inclination to baby any wounded russians left after successful operations. It might be noted that the second Chechen war, at the opening of the putin era, was launched in 1999 with a false flag fsb bombing of russian apartments and one notable happening was the systematic rape of captured Chechen fighters by russian troops. Thanks to the menaces and weakness of russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan would join NATO if invited. Francis pandered shamelessly to russia and putin and agent michailov aka Patriarch ’50 hats’ kirill wouldn’t even take the panderer’s call (I sympathise with putin on that point). The clock seems to have struck HIMARS o’clock for Ukraine.

Slightly amusingly one Greek Rite chaplain in the Ukrainian Army is a Fr Zelenskyy SJ (https://catholicnews.com/ukraine-chaplain-sees-his-mission-as-helping-troops-protect-their-humanity/#.Yg03VsJGlDI.twitter) but then Putin’s daughter is seeing yet another Zelensky, must be loads of them..

Like

Bishop, its only when set out as you have described today, that one realises how close the edifice is to military structure and command.

Like

Mellifont Monk. A few decades ago (living memory). The woman in the well, dead. Local knowledge with omertà. With child. Joseph and Mary had honour that the RCC have never followed with similar circumstance. The rot and darkness is deep and long (chronologically) in all the tentacles of the RCC.

Like

That was a threat to collegiality. And the synodal ramifications of disclosure were never pondered beyond the fringes.
I blame acquiescence rather than omerta. There was collusion in the margins.

Like

Mellifont has “gifted” land to locals in Collon a number of times, not many. Was it always altruistic ?

Like

Moon goes back to the family who gifted the land if its status as a monastery ceases, would that be correct ? I did a 10 day retreat in it, with my radio of course, it was the time when Gorby opened the USSR to the world, it was an exciting time in the news and the world. It was probably the best monastery I stayed in in terms of the hospitality that St. Paul encourages. I think they loose the land if it ceases its stature as a Cistercian Foundation ?? I may be mistaken on this one. WM

Like

7.54am: Moone Abbey was gifted by the Farnan family. Fr. Pat Farnan, the son of the benefactors, was a Dublin Diocesan Priest, one-time vocations director. He was a very lovely priest. Was always a small community but very friendly and hospitable and had a great local following for Sunday Mass.

Like

He certainly did not have the integrity of either character in Brokeback Mountain. Presume he has not still…….

Like

Since when did Bill become a partner in the Bishop Buckley Blog? What a great time Bill us having – nothung to do of a y worth. Oh to
be sooooo free and have great lazy, lazy days…

Like

9.17 Envy is the most dangerous of the 7. Doubt you ever had as an industrious nine days as I had recently!!!! Read some Aristotle and dream Disquieted Blogger…however your soul.

Like

9.17 Two sorts of bones I don’t have; Humble ones and Lazy ones!!!!!! Never bored in my life, not once. For the day, consult the Cardinal virtues and the Seven Deadly sins…and don’t trouble your head their application to myself….but to your very soul.

Like

9.17 Worth ? Tell us what you mean? The most worthwhile gift given by the universe is the gift of breath, the appreciation and gratitude of it and for it. From it derives everything worthwhile. Have you ever appreciated your Pneuma….and its divinity ? Breathe ! William Mulvihill

Like

11.14 Fr Gerard Mc Quillan for all the years he celebrated Mass said the Prayer of Michael The Archangel as he concluded the Mass….tells you everything about that sort of stuff. What he did, they wanted to change the law to give him a life sentence, unfortunately there was not time.

Like

9.17 The Ecclesial Cats Back Is Up Again….snarling and spitting…..something I blogged this morning ?

Like

I wonder what the former abbot is doing nowadays. Of course, she was too young to be an abbot in the first place. On the one hand, you can’t profess to be celibate; on the other, don a pair of dark glasses and a hoodie and slip into a gay sauna post compline. The wretch.

Like

Isn’t Brendan Freeman the monk they send to when they need someone to do the task of closing OCSO houses?

Like

9.37 He has plenty of company in the RCC. My reply to Robert H. 3 attempts to contact me will shortly arrive with him. Time to me is as to the Abbott of The Grand Chartreuse and the request to film…he replied after 16/17 (?) years and Into Great Silence was filmed. The book …my book…..no lazy days at all !!!!!!!

Like

10.38 Was never intended to be watched anywhere but a huge screen preferably in a cinema. Sounds like you need a hearing of Martha and Mary …Sweeney did it in Drogheda recently…as every RC church…I wonder who really listened. La Mer….

Like

What about the Raphoe Priest accompanying an Army Chaplain ( Meath priest) on a scouts outing at a military encampment and to my knowledge got away scot free ? How many and what organisations colluded in that ? Bad idea for the Ecclesial Cat to snarl in my direction…still don’t get it.

Like

10.26 I was “Monitor” ( a ridiculous term) to that class in New House. That individual made a huge mistake when he accused me and attempted to get me into trouble: he accused me of using the master key ( I had one if a student had locked themselves out of their own room) to enter his room and steal his TeddyBear (YES!!) , a ransom note had been sent along with one of the ears of said teddy bear. I could have been in a lot of trouble for the false accusation for I could not prove I didn’t do it. Luckily Stephen Grey ( on of the finest Gentleman ever in every way) who had actually done it came forward. No key had been used…a card had been used. Joe Murphy ( Master of Protocol in Vatican) joined the caucus calling for blood ( nevertheless Joe was assuming the worst in conviction.) but he learned something that time I think. He was a horrible student who is now x priest.

Like

I beg to differ. I am that priest and am still in ministry. Where in ministry? My business.

Like

William at 11:00
Please please keep telling that story about the teddy bear. I feel like every time someone hears it another church will close.

Like

Bill does not bother his lill to explain to non-Maynoothites that a “monitor” was a IV Divinity deacon who lived in the sem houses occupied by years 1-4. It was a college appointment made by the Administrative Council to arselickers and brownnosers. They were spies for the dean and a sort of prefect.
Most of the ones from my time are not in ministry now. Pierce Cormac (Cork and Ross) was one of the three monitors in Long Corridor and he thought he was the Junior Dean.

Like

There was only one Raphoe sem in New House in 1988-89, the year of Bill’s ill-fated monitorship, so no guesswork needed.

There were groans when it was announced that Bill had been appointed a New House monitor as a favour by Niall Ahern (naturally). It was thought that making him monitor might knock off some of Bill’s odd edges but that experiment failed.

Niall and Bill: two cheeks of the same arse.

Like

Stuff didn’t make it to the papers so. Jumped up meanderings. Couldn’t see the sense of it. Over and out.

Like

2.03 Can you explain to everybody not familiar with medieval English what meg-lee-po-pod- as is now as well ? ( that’s phonetically in case the spelling is too difficult).

Like

2.03 Never licked anyone’s are in my life…..though now if he is good looking and 28-34 I am very partial to rimming…active and passive….the reward for not arselicking!!! Bill Mulvihill

Like

We ( not Niall Ahern).are not amused. Who groaned? No one but Donal O Neill , Manus Bradley and Mons. Eamonn Fitzgibbon. Bill Mulvihill

Like

What a crew of self-willed mavericks, heretics and unbiddables: WM, Donal O’Neill, Manus Bradley and Eamonn Fitzgibbon. Were they all in the same class? Ffs

Like

MEG LEE PO PIE AA…..is the correct phonetic sound. William Mulvihill

Like

3.16 You should try it, anything but sickening if done properly. More hygienic than what goes on in Church on Sundays; eating flesh and drinking blood and no hand cleaning between recipients; sickening; and they think it was the Sunday dinner/ lunch. William Mulvihill

Like

2.26 At least it’s not the same orifice as most of your comments Cyberspunk.

Like

2.42: Bill, actually unnecessary comment. Too much personal stuff. Now we know why your mouth spews out filth!! LITERALLY …This comment is porno stuff. You deserve infections…the very printing of this comment shows your recklessness which is now a daily feature.

Like

I stayed 5 days in Mount Melleray near Cappaquin in June and it was fantastic. I’d recommend it to anyone. Really peaceful , spiritual place . I’d definitely go again an again.

Like

Is ‘going again and again’ a reference to the services that were on offer?
And I’m not talking about Vespers.

Like

11.39 Very disingenuous. You are not that priest. That priest is employed in Dublin, where know precisely to me. William Mulvihill

Like

Why does Bileen write like someone who’d been taught English by Killarney John?

Like

You should be careful throwing round your calumnies, Bileen. We can work out whom you’re referring to. Your own conduct has been recorded by the recording angel and titbits could be scattered here, if we wanted to, but we don’t, because we don’t spend our days mulling over things that happened a lifetime ago.

Like

11.50: Mr. Bill, you are a psychologically sick man. Your sexual perversions will bring a deathly disease to you. We don’t need your pornographic exploits nor your profanities. Why you are allowed space for this porno is beyond comprehension. Pat should delete your perversions….What’s gone wrong in your life since deserting priesthood? Everything, sadly.

Like

7.15 why Irish Roman Catholic Bishops allow porno to take place on altars in middle of night is behind comprehension and more to the point.

Like

Indeed. Catholics are made gullible by their priests, infantilised to the point where they’ll believe any aul guff without question.
Sorry. Have to go. My statue of the Virgin Mary is calling me in for lunch.

Like

Now howl on there! How can that snake strike me when Mary has her bloody great foot crushing the its head? Or is that a load of made-up guff as well, to keep the Faithful from getting too insecure?

Like

12.09: Hope the snake at Our Lady’s Feet poisons you…🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐…plank!!

Like

1:35 There’s just been a miraculous shower of rose petals in my garage. Please give generously.

Like

2.27 Is that so ? Then why are you referring to whatever it is you are referencing? You seem to neglect to account for this; I don’t belong to your putrid organisation any longer recount what you like but have the decency to put your name to the S…e you recount.

Like

7.15 Familiarise yourself with the definition of pornography. It may keep you out of trouble.Especially if you are an RC priest or bishop.

Like

4.47 You presume I am telling you the truth. Most of the time on this Blog I am accused of the opposite. You know how you know when a man is actually straight ? He likes Cunnilingus. If he doesn’t, questions must be asked. It’s simply; true. There is nothing unhygenic about the human body except on place; do you know the filthiest place on the planet; the human mouth; science.

Like

3.45: More evidence of the complete unhinging of Bill. His thoughts are influenced by drink and medication. A breakdown in progress……Pat, save this idiot.

Like

While in Bill’s company I never saw any meds and he drank moderately.

Like

4.38 Your second sentence may well prove harassment, abusive and illegal. Should that be the case I shall report you to the Gardai or PSNI. WM Its time an IP was outed on this blog.

Like

4:38 stop trying to silence Bill Mulvihill. Fr Control Freak you are.

Like

10:58 I’m sure the clerical voices of protest and whistle blowing won’t resound and they’ll expect Pat Buckley to publish it for them.
Oh they already have.

Like

1:30 Correct. It could just be a spoof. RCC clerics who sit behind desks are often times the ones who wield the most power. There is no progress in regards to a peaceful resolution/closure. Radio silence on the other end.

Like

Might just be spoof Karen.
Is there any GF news? Is it approaching a peaceful conclusion?

Like

Ger is ideally suited to a prominent administration role. He has excellent interpersonal skills and great at building a rapport. He will be a great asset to the diocese going forward

Like

12.09 if this is true and I doubt it is, it can only mean that tight-fisted Fitzgerald had some seriously valuable chips to cash in at the Westbourne Case Conference.

Like

10.46
STOP the S*** Ger Fitzgerald is going nowhere so stop winding people up.
He has a reduced salary from the diocese of Killaloe due to Canon Law.
Ger Fitzgerald will not be back in Killaloe diocese in any capacity or in fact and Diocese as for the aledged post in Doora that is B******t as you should know it is in the Abbey pastoral Area which involves the Ennis parishes and Tom Ryan is the VF.

Karen bites to you all the time Ger will be history to the RCC and more so in Killaloe diocese but it takes time for him and Jerry to be dismissed.
Why would Ger take a position when he gets paid for doing SFA,

Like

@2.58 STOP & get YOUR facts right – Fr Tom FITZPATRICK is in charge of Doora Barefield Parish, NOT Fr Tom Ryan.

Like

The only desk jobs for wayward priests available to the Bishop of Killaloe are: teacher in a diocesan college; a job in Maynooth or in the episcopal conference offices; a sinecure in the Roman Curia; the Irish College Rome or Paris; diocesan secretary or Chancellor; or further studies. No way is Ger getting any of those.

Like

6.29 Where is the Killaloe Diocese™️ spokesperson or Data protection officer when you need them? Maybe they are busy with ☕️ at Glenstal?

Like

I agree completely, everyone deserves a second chance. How can you see this situation without compassion.

Like

Jesus, what is wrong with you people. Forgiving people doesn’t mean you let them do it again. This idiotic approach is why everyone sees a priest and thinks kiddy fiddler.

PSA: they’re still not getting it, folks. Don’t trust a priest with your kids.

Like

Pat at 12:13 Perhaps a white board should be put up in the kitchen of every monastery and the abbot keeps a score of every time he has sex in there.
490 strikes and you’re out.

Like

No, Pat. That expression is a biblical figure of speech. It means an infinite number of times, provided, of course, that the person is penitent.
Some people say that we must forgive regardless. That’s BS in my opinion. We must be WILLING to forgive, to be sure. But we can’t forgive those who don’t want to be forgiven. God doesn’t forgive us unless we are truly contrite.
Yes?

Like

12.31

No,God himself limits what he can do. If he is good (and we’re told he is, by JC no less), then he cannot be bad, for then he would cease to be good. You see?

If God can forgive whom he pleases, then why doesn’t he just forgive everyone anyhow, regardless of whether they be sorry or not. Satan, too. Heck! Why did he go through all that drama on Calvary when he could just have forgiven everyone for everything, and saved himself the bother.

God is limited by our unwillingness to change.

Like

12:19
You are limiting what God can do. He can forgive who he pleases as is his prerogative.
Whereas it behoves us to keep little ones and the vulnerable safe and ensure nobody is distressed or scandalized in the house of God.
To bring forgiveness into that is to cloud the issue.

Like

12:23 Thank you for your frank admission that God is a temperamental monster who only does what he feels like. An unusually frank admission from a Christian.

Like

12:23 Nice try but unfortunately your conception of God has strayed far from the classic conception, in your attempt to resolve the main problem of an omnipotent single divinity.
You cannot say that God can’t forgive because he could.
You are having a go at the Catholic solution of free will but you are using it to limit God too much.
My favorite solution to this problem is actually the Calvinist one of double predestination because it is completely logical and rightly paints God as the driving force here: so that he has predestined us all for salvation and damnation.
Personally I am the only Calvinist predestined to damnation so it really doesn’t matter what I do.
Party time! 🥳

Like

12.54
Are you sure you weren’t addressing 12.31 rather than 12.23?
The latter said no such thing about God.

Like

1.00
No, God can’t forgive, because we won’t allow him through unrepentance.
You’ve made the classic mistake, like the woman speaker at Tobhar Mhuire retreat centre in Crossgar, of treating forgiveness as a stand-alone concept. It isn’t, and never was.
Forgiveness is a grace, but like any unwanted gift, it can be returned to sender.
Forgiveness must be sought, and received, voluntarily and willingly. Otherwise we reject healing from God, a balm for a fractured relationship with the Divine.
You are saved if you want to be. Salvation is yours for the asking.

Like

2:25 My favourite thing is when Christians try to defend their faith and end up stepping out of it like you have.
I recently had someone try to tell me that God didn’t create hell.
The problem for you and your ilk is that the whole Judaeo Christian tradition hangs on the idea that God does intervene in history when he feels like it.
If you don’t want God to be able to intervene you may be happier with Voodoo where, contrary to popular belief, there is only one God but he isn’t involved in the world in any way.
BTW if you pray for stuff you’ve just contradicted yourself. 💪🫢🤫🤢😒

Like

2.42
Huh?😕
I never said that God doesn’t intervene in history, nor did I say that I didn’t want him to. Your entire criticism stands on this shifting sand of unreality. Look! It has already collapsed.😅

Like

10:48 S***, we can smell burning as far away as Glenstal 🤣🤣🤣 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

Like

Scandals of any kind in institutions – civil, ecclesial, political, commercial – leave a legacy which makes us very mistrusting, unbelieving, suspicious and questioning. If the scandals are of a serious nature we find it difficult to trust again. Likewise with the Church. Apart from the scandals of sexual abuse, corruption and cover up and the reports of morally reprehensible behaviours by clerics, many one time fervent Catholics are no longer walking in faith and unity with us. The pandemic has speeded up by about 5/10 years the eventual erosion and disappearance of our Catholic identity but not necessarily our Christian identity. The ripple effects of the “searching” around for services and masses during the pandemic has somehow brought us into the “I can do it for myself: I can walk with God myself” mind set. For that again many have seriously questioned the truthfulness, veracity, relevance or need for religious faith or for a communal expression of it. Many have decided to cut their ties with what they see as a very corrupted Church. Irrespective of bad publicity the Cistercians have received in recent years in various monasteries, there would still be a natural decline of members. Monasticism, as we know it, is not attracting men or women, yet some of the stricter monasteries in the USA attract many. But in Ireland, the Cistercians will fade in time. It would make greater sense to have all remaining monks in Ireland in one house. It might have greater effect on the landscape of faith and religious presence. I have stayed in almost all Monasteries in Ireland and am saddened that they are fewer monks. We live in a society that is now more secular, materialistic, with greater education, work opportunitues and values religious celebrations more as rites of passage, not as life time realities or choices. Yes, the self inflicted opprobrium, spiritual and moral shame which befell the Church are contributory factors in a march towards (total) irrelevance. Only a remnant will remain…Am I hopeful for a reviving, influential and enlightening remnant? No.

Liked by 1 person

A significant difference between the commercial world and the church is if a business gets a terrible reputation they just change their name (for example Hermes is now Evri and is still shit), but the church can’t do that.
I bet they wish they could!

Like

Religion isn’t the opium of the people, as Charles Dickens surmised, its the pacifier (or Dummy teet) for the insecure.
Have you not noticed that when they thrive, they pray less, if at all?
Clergy absolutely need people to feel insecure and frightened (hence the s***e about Hell) because its good for business.
Someone posted earlier that priests keep people infantilised, dependent. That’s true. Why? Cos it’s good for business.
Religion is a business, not a charity, and should be taxed as such. That’s my theology.

Like

12:31 I have been trying to phrase this reply tactfully but have given up and will just say what I’m thinking and Pat you might not publish this.
Judging by the stupidity of many comments here I can’t see the church in Ireland dying out any time soon.
There, said it.

Like

” Forgivness” is an antiquated concept. The hurt or wrong inflicted must be worked through by the offended and the offender. Forgiveness is about “power over.” Ridiculously medieval for the Zeitgeist.

Like

Forgiveness is, ultimately, about reconciliation. Only the offender can unlock the offended’s capacity to forgive. So yes, there is a strong element of restorative justice about the process, and forgiveness is a process.

It annoys me no end when I hear spiritual charlatans, like the woman I once listened to at Tobhar Mhuire retreat centre, handle forgiveness as a stand-alone concept, separated from repentance. This nonsense places the full responsibility, and the weight of it, on the shoulders of the sinned-against rather than the sinner. How cruel! In reality, it is, as you implied, a joint enterprise. And so with God’s relationship with any of us.

Like

“Forgiveness” is not a carte blanche for repeated and continued wrongdoing. The best apology is changed behaviour.
Can Dom Mark Kirby expect forgiveness from Dom Benedict Andersen? Has Dom Mark Kirby atoned for his wrongdoing?
Can Tom Deenihan expect forgiveness from Dom Benedict Andersen? Has Tom Deenihan atoned for his wrongdoing?
I have sympathy for the Cistercians in Ireland. All the eggs were put in one basket. One man alone was seen as the saviour. Altar angel. Boilerhouse devil.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.

Like

12.33: Bill, forgiveness is not an antiquated concept. It’s very iften thec1st step towards reconciliation, healing and new life. It’s the most difficult of virtues and Christian vvalues but an integral one. I have been very hurt by a particular experience and it took me a long time to forgive but I do not forget the experience. The forgiveness didn’t restore normal relationships but the experience no longer hurts me like a share of glass. The other persons: they too are getting on with their lives. I’m not happy when we imprison others by un-forgiveness but it’s not an easy journey of the heart. Remember the true original meaning of the word “forgive” as used in the story of the Prodigal Son: TO LET GO OF….(Italian: perdonare – to give completely without reservation). Reflect on the Father in the story….he had already “let go” of any resentment or hurt once he saw his son in the distance – coming home. Therein lies the challenge.

Like

Apologies for the long copy and paste:
This has been a busy time for Fr. Brendan, our superior. In the middle of May, he traveled to our daughter house in England, Mount Saint Bernard. Dom Joseph, the abbot, had submitted his resignation which was accepted by the Abbot General and his council. Mount St. Bernard is facing a number of critical issues and the responsibilities were taxing Dom Joseph’s physical and emotional health. In addition to the problems of diminishing human resources in the community, the buildings of the monastery are in drastic need of repair. They no longer meet requirements of the local fire code. Electrical wiring is inadequate, the roof needs replacement, etc. The monastery was designed by Augustus Welby Pugin, a noted British architect (“God’s Architect”) and is listed on official registrars.
After consulting with the community, Fr. Brendan appointed Fr. Peter Claver (81) as the new superior. Fr. Brendan was invited to attend the Regional Meeting of the Isles which was held at the same time. He returned to be present for the scheduled meeting of the Commission for the Future of New Melleray Abbey, May 31st and June 1st.
The Commission for the Future is a group of five experienced persons, together with two monks of the local community, who are invited to assist the community to look realistically at its situation, not only from a human point of view, but especially from the point of view of faith. An experience of fragility should be accepted as an invitation of the Lord to choose life by entering into the Paschal mystery. (Statute on the Accompaniment of Fragile Communities) The members of this commission are: Dom Peter McCarthy, OCSO (our delegated Father Immediate); Dom Gerard D’Souza, OCSO, of Genesee Abbey, Archbishop Jerome Hanus, OSB (retired archbishop of Dubuque and currently residing at Conception Abbey, MO); Mother Rebecca Stramoski, OCSO, abbess of Our Lady of the Mississippi; Mr. David Schueller (a long-time financial advisor of the community); and Dom Brendan Freeman, superior of New Melleray and Fr. David Bock, representing the monks of the community.
The Commission met for two days in an attempt to assess the difficulties and realities the community is facing. It shared its observations and discernments with the community in a meeting at the end of the second day. All the members of the Commission were present for any questions or comments. The following day, Dom Peter met individually with all the monks who were free to give their personal responses and reactions. The whole discernment process led by Dom Peter was universally affirmed as constructive and realistic. The Commission will return again next year to reflect with us on our responses and developments.
The major thrust of the report was to direct the community’s thinking and planning to anticipate an even smaller community of ten monks in the near future. A serious issue is our capability of receiving and offering an integral monastic formation to new entries. Do we have the resources to provide leadership from within the community? We have already been adjusting our liturgy and the use of buildings and space to the decreased population in the community. The positive ground of hope for the future is the unity and mutual support that presently exists among us. Our challenge is to reimagine the ways we live together as a place of eminent, continuous formation so that our structures do not overburden us but serve the spirit which unites us in Christ.
Fr, Brendan again left on June 15th to attend the U.S. Regional meeting at Villa del Mar, California. This is a retreat house which overlooks the Pacific Ocean. He is due back home on the 24th. Our new Abbot General, Dom Bernardus, has been attending all the regional meetings in preparation for the General Chapter (Part II) from September 1st to 25th in Assisi, Italy. No doubt the choice of Villa del Mar as the venue for our regional meeting was intended to provide a consistent cultural ambience for the discussions. Bona sera.
https://newmelleray.org/june-news/

Like

Personally if I was 81 and it was even suggested I could be superior I would tell them what to do.
It feels like there are a lot of Cistercian monasteries that should have been mothballed years ago and certainly shouldn’t have been taking novices.
There are several Benedictine monasteries in England which as far as I know are taking novices but certainly shouldn’t be, even if they shouldn’t have been closed.

Like

I was wondering that but the phrase is used repeatedly on the OCSO website, for example:
Dom Charles Albanese, abbot of Saint Benedict’s Abbey, Snowmass (Archdiocese of Denver, USA) since 2019, has presented, for personal reasons, his resignation to the Abbot General. With the consent of his Council, the Abbot General accepted the resignation. It became effective on the 29th July 2022.
At the request of Dom Vincent Rogers, abbot of Spencer and Father Immediate of Snowmass, the Abbot General, with the consent of his council, has suspended the exercise of the autonomy of the community of Snowmass, according to the Statute of the Accompaniment of Fragile Communities (10+16).
Dom Vincent Rogers, abbot of Spencer and Father Immediate of Snowmass, has appointed on 29th July 2022, Dom Damian Carr, former abbot of Spencer, as Monastic Commissary of the Abbey of Snowmass.
Try as I might I couldn’t find the Statute of the Accompaniment of Fragile Communities they refer to. Normally for Benedictines fragile communities are made dependent on another monastery and a local superior appointed, and this seems to be the equivalent.

Like

A problem for the OCSO is the aggressive approach adopted by the past pupils in Roscrea. The school was due to close until the past pupils made promises. Needless to say these assurances were not followed through and a massive deficit continues. Mal Thompson was up to his neck in this issue. A decision on the school in Roscrea is inevitably due. The property is worth money , it is a no brainer.

Like

Agreed, the way they promised the sun, moon and stars and then left the college and the monks high and dry is unforgivable. It will make the decision to close a bit easier but the students and staff will be left abandoned. Malachy Thompson has full control of the college so it will be on him. I have been told he has been keeping the problems hidden to save face. It is an absolute disaster.

Like

In the future, people will find it hard to comprehend why parents sent their children off at 7, 11 or 13, out of the family home, to live in a barracks of a school with adult strangers, with attendant risk of bullying and abuse. Do such parents hate their offspring?

Like

Very true, what goes through the minds of parents who send their 13 year son to a place like Roscrea. Dark and devoid of anything. Elderly monks living onsite and little or no student activities after 3pm. The school website promises loads but nothing happens. Boarding schools are an antiquated concept. Children need parents or guardians to chat to every evening after school. Boarding schools result in problems being covered up and children not having the chance to breath after the cut and thrust of a school day. Boarding schools are like prisons. They need to be inspected properly. Significant child protection issues are ignored.

Like

And presumably in single-sex schools such as Roscrea, boys are separated from their sisters (if they have them) for half the year, and girls who board are separated from their brothers. It’s an odd life. Humans have one of the longest childhoods in the animal kingdom and should be at home with their families, not packed off to an institution.

Like

LOL funny how the church doesn’t like it when people do it to them! Where did these people learn their morals! 😆

Like

To the Anonymous blogger who keeps sending unpublished messages about a very sensitive subject: Some other kind of evidence is needed otherwise this is going nowhere.

Like

Fair enough pat- but then how would “anonymous” know about repeated unpublished comments about a very sensitive issue, if they are unpublished and not seen by anyone other than you? I’m confused

Like

I don’t know.

They may be referring to communication I had with another person?

Like

The commisary of an OCSO house with suspended government must be a member of a religious institute. The commissary is to appoint at least two advisors to assist in the task of governance. The advisors can be from within or from without the monastery and could be lay persons. The commissary is to involve the members of the Community in decision-making when advisable and in deciding the future of the monastery.
The role of the commissary is general oversight of the community, that is, to assure the daily care of the members so that they can continue to live life together in the fullest way possible. Therefore, the commissary does not need to live at the monastery. Rather, the commissary can appoint someone else to take care of the daily needs of the community. This person could
be a member of the monastery or another religious institute or perhaps an employee such as the business
manager.
Because there is suspended regular government, there are few, if any, canonical decisions to be made.
The monastery does not accept new members, it does not make major financial decisions, and there are no
canonical appointments to be made.
There are a number advantages to suspending the regular government of a monastery and appointing a
commissary. First, the community remains together and continues to live life in the manner of their monastery with adjustments for the age and number of members. Second, an on-site administrator from another monastery is not required. Third, other
monasteries do not need to accept transfers to their community. Fourth, if the monastery must be continued in existence for some reasons, the
monastic congregation through its leadership does not have to become the canonical governing body of the monastery. In the OCSO houses, this may be the Father Immediate.
In short, a commisary or his delegate oversees houses that are being allowed to die out, rather than merge with other houses, with equally aged members, because the disruption to all is too much.

Like

In the past when a monastery could no longer sustain itself because of insufficient membership and leadership, most monastic congregations sought to sustain the monastery, if possible, by appointing
someone from another community. Benedictines normally use the term “administrator” while Cistercians of the Strict Observance use the term
“superior ad nutum.” If appointing an administrator were not feasible or would not solve the problem, the
monastery was suppressed as an autonomous house.
In some instances, the monastery became a dependent monastery of another monastery. In other cases, the members transferred and moved to a single monastery or to various different monasteries.
For the monastic congregations in the West, the reality is that there are not sufficient monastics from other monasteries available to be administrators. Monasteries which have members who could be
administrators need the members for positions in their own monasteries and in many cases also need sufficient income from such members. It is also true that there are not enough “strong” monasteries to be able to absorb large numbers of monastics from monasteries that are suppressed.
In many instances, transferring older members to other monasteries with an aging population merely delays the inevitable. Further, transferring to other monasteries can be disruptive for the members and difficult for them to adjust to a new community which has its own unique culture and relationships.
At times, a monastic congregation could not suppress a monastery immediately because there were
members who did not transfer or seek an indult of departure (dispensation). Therefore, the monastery had to stay in existence until there were no more
members. The result has been that the president and council of the monastic congregation had to maintain a “fictitious” monastery and provide both canonical and corporate governance.
However, is there another possibility that permits the members of a small and older community which can no longer fulfill the requirements for regular governance to stay together as an autonomous monastery? The answer is “yes.” The possibility is referred to as the “suspension of regular government” of the monastery and the appointment of a commisary.
The regular government of an autonomous monastery consists of three parts: the monastic leader
plus the other members of the leadership staff, the conventual chapter, and the monastic council. Each part requires not just “warm bodies” but persons who are capable of fulfilling their respective duties in
governance. When one or more of these parts is not possible in a monastery, then the regular government of the monastery is no longer possible.

Like

The Meath priest who was the Army Chaplin is Father Robert Mc Cabe, Navan presently I think. William Mulvihill

Like

Fr McCabe has a chestful of medals. Show some respect. You just wish you had his Defence Forces pension.

Like

I remember that Fr McCabe from the Lourdes Military Pilgrimage. Always rushing about the place with a folder under his arm heading off to very important meetings, and evidently one of the queen bees of the whole thing. Very much up his own arse. He loved it. Ah well, hopefully he’s found a more real grounding in some parish where he comes from. Made much more comfortable, as you suggest, by his DF pension. It always helps ! Why do you think they go in to the DF in the first place ?!

Like

Sad to see Roscrea at such a low ebb. It is a very special place for so many. Pity they hadn’t they hadn’t the courage to make Fr. Nivard abbot. An outstanding person in monasticism The bland dom Columcille ran it into the ground staying on way too long. He was never a fan of Neill Dargan. BM great pal. He still let Rawhide progress though. We all know where that ended up. If the walls of Roscrea Abbey could talk all those diaconate and priesthood retreats..

Like

You have to wonder if the Cistercians over stretched themselves on the wave of monastic vocations after WW2 and with the popularity of Thomas (Hermitage for Two) Merton.

Like

To avoid all confusion or subterfuge; the x Raphoe priest I am citing today is Columba Nee; Niall Coll was and is his mentor. Speak Father Coll ?

Like

We’d worked that out, Bill, you scurrilous old queeny gossip. Likewise we’d worked out that it was Bullfrog.

Like

6.06 Declan Mc Crystal to Bill Mulvihill 1980s : You were always so butch Bill. And Declan was a real man. Takes all sorts…

Like

6.03 You misinterpreted. It is not revenge. Take another look at my comments. I am not repeating myself for such as you.

Like

4.58: Mr. Knowall Nothing to do Mulvihill: youre behaviour on this blog is morally reprehensible. You sure are one big dangerous queenie gossip. You ruin people. You are pathologically unwell.

Like

7.09 You are always so caring and pastoral “Martin”. Those who offend against children and adolescent s are needing of a measure of destruction; it is recidivist behaviour to say nothing of its criminality; no matter how long ago or however well covered up. I have asked before of you; what are you hiding/ afraid of ? You have indicated it again in your comment.

Like

Quite the experiment today. Personally anyway. Such Puitans in the Putrid Irish Church ( RC). You know the shortest sermon in the world: There are starving millions in the world. You don’t give a f..k about the starving millions. You are now more ” worried ” over the fact I have said F..k than anyone who.is starving. Ends.

Like

The Anonymous posts at 12:50 and 3:41 are both gentle reminders that foregiveness has to be a reality firstly in God with human penitence being the trigger. Neither of the two posts contained the arrogant venom of one of the main contributors of this blog and as such are welcomed by at least this reader.

The quotation about opium is usually attributed to Marx but its real interest lies in the fact that it is not true for in relatity Opium itself was the “opium of the masses”. Many are those who are still enjoying the wealth created by the legal drug trade of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

Like

Bolton Abbey in Moone honours it’s traditions and simple way of life. I too would be slow to leave there and would choose there were I to apply for monastic life. God bless them.

Like

In our first year “spiritual month” in Maynooth we were taken on a visit to Moone to meet the monks and stayed for compline. It made a lasting, positive impression.

Like

So, you were (and remain?) highly impressionable.
I’ll tell you what would impress me. Not the heady rituals and chanting of these men, but if one, just one of them, could raise the dead, or even heal the sick. It’s a modest expectation, given that these fellows claim to be other Christs.
Chants, and baroque monastic liturgies, seem such a poor second best.

Like

Makes sense that Bill was a favourite of Ahern. Ahern was a serial abuser in too many sense’s of the word.

Like

What was the name of the charity Niall established, for sems to raise money for sems in the developing world? They used to sell candles and stuff.

Like

Stop all your bickering about Ger Fitzgerald and his “desk job”. I am not falling for any of it. There were a lot of comments today about forgiveness/reconciliation. Pity that Ger doesn’t respond to the olive branch that has been extended to him.

Like

7.40 Terry’s Chocolate Orange Mystery will be solved…you can hide, but you can’t face the truth. “❤️ thank you..I hope you know you mean a lot to me too..you really do.”

Like

Do we take it you sounding so cocky because victim no 3 is in fear of her job?

Like

10.26 The word tenacious is more appropriate. Learn how to write. By the way, another correction for your book: Hassard not Hasard.

Like

Its a great pity. Life would be much better for all of ye if he did the right thing. He’s being very, very badly advised.

Like

&6.45 Freebie Fitzgerald & Freebie Carey – do they pay for nothing in Killaloe

Like

Niall Ahern saved many a man from a life of total misery by a form of selection, however crude ( it was all crude, nothing personal to that man who actually did care), tragedy is he did not save more, ordained now for years and this evening as every evening suffering the anguish and isolation of the ” good” Irish Priest. Niall Ahern was and is a good man, with.the measure of faults common to the human condition. Unfortunately he treated some very badly…but that is what Deans in Maynooth did; no.training.

Like

He was not a good man. Was responsible for destroying the mental health of many students. You are typical of an institutional reject Bill.

Liked by 1 person

It was a mental reign of terror under Niall Ahern. He made good men suffer and was needlessly cruel and personal. He played with people like cats play with mice. I hope never to meet him again. I couldn’t be in the same room. A total FOD with an eye for eye candy.

Like

7.47 I was not rejected. Hopefully when assembled Pat will publish all Eamon Martin’s letters and emails to me as I have indicated previously.

Like

Bill you were always a strange rare individual when at college with me. I always maintained that you were not fit for the Priesthood!

Like

7.54 Turns out Priesthood left me… I did not leave it; the words of a wise and holy priest; Bill, priesthood left you a long time ago. Don’t try to invert it; it was high compliment. I am happy to wait until the other side, we shall see what He makes of it all and all of us; even you anonymous coward.

Like

7.47: No Nellie, Billeen is not typical of an institutional reject. Worse: he’s arrogant and utterly careless about his rantings on this blog. He plays loose with truth. He is very selective about whom he condemns or likes. Niall will always be protected by Billeen. Wonder why?

Like

All that and the faux intellectualism. Boring as hell, utterly inane and total waste of time reading his posts.

Like

Itemize where i have played loose with the truth and with what name ? I can explicitate further on any individual you name .But add your own for verity.

Like

Birds of a feather flock together. The only reason Niall had Bill made monitor was so that Bill could spy and report back. It certainly wasn’t for his pastoral skills, warmth or ability to put people at their ease. I hope some of Bill’s gauchness and spectrum-like behaviour wore off over the years.

Like

I think you would find, I was always entirely honourable with the students of New House. Not one of them would ever have had it said that I said anything to the Dean about anything As my whole life but once; that was to save a priest from himself; I went to his bishop. He is a PP yet. Don’t tell lies about me . My contribution today is indicative of all the cases that have been covered up. If exposed so many more to fall off their perches. PATS Blog… I shall keep going if the Putrid Organization continues to.clandestinely and anonymously malign me. Desist is my advice.

Like

You just throw out wild allegations, usually in cyptic form, about people from decades ago. What’s your motivation? Revenge, boredom, to make yourself feel better, malevolence?
Why would you want to claim that a priest, long out of ministry, was forced out? Why, though, Bill?
Why claim that JMcK, long out of ministry, had a student relationship with a priest who is frequently mentioned here? If they did, that would have been over 30 years ago. What’s the point? You veer between toe-curling praise of named priests, which must embarrass them by its quaint expression, to raking up alleged old sins of other named priests from the 1980s and 1990s. It’s madness.

Liked by 1 person

PSML just because you did it decades ago don’t mean you are not still accountable.

Like

9.20 I have never raised anyones “sins.” I have raised their crimes….CRIMES.

Like

9.20 A relationship is neither a sin or a crime. Should Paul Prior have removed any student from Maynooth for sexual encounters…as he did as a member of the Administrative Council ? The Hypocrite.

Like

10.28 Thank you. I need the affirmations !!!! Lol Lol Lol Lol Much appreciated all the same. Bill M

Like

The Richard Purcell scandal and what a scandal it was, too, Bp Pat, kept the old ones going for almost two years. I was quite put out when he resigned.

Like

Joe Murphy, Vatican Director of Protocol dumped his friendship with Columba Nee over it all…
As others.

Like

10.23 That is the point of archaeology. Glad to hear it about Joe. Maybe thats the hold up?

Like

Maybe I shall attend the Archbishop of Canberra tomorrow. His holidays in Thailand with the PP who likes to shave (his own) hairy legs. Perhaps they picked it up “the habit” from Bishop Hilton Deakon. Something tells me Werner Utri visited the Blog today ??? Lol Lol Lol

Like

What’s the matter with Dom Michael Ryan’s eye? It looks like he’s been peeping through a peephole and got poked. Shame somebody didn’t do that to Fr Aidan McCann.

Like

Just seeking clarification………3.16 You should try it, anything but sickening if done properly. More hygienic than what goes on in Church on Sundays; eating flesh and drinking blood and no hand cleaning between recipients; sickening; and they think it was the Sunday dinner/ lunch. William Mulvihill
So you are claiming that sticking your tongue in someone’s anus is more hygienic than receiving communion at a church? I’m not a fan of rimming or church services but I’d know which one I’d choose over the other if I had to make a choice.
And since you claim in another of your posts that rimming is something you like to do and in yet another post you inform us that ‘science’ tells us that the human mouth is filthiest area in the human body —–I I respectfully ask, should you be going around infecting someone’s anus with your filthy tongue? Just asking?
The comedy value of some of these posts is priceless.

Like

9.52 You should watch “Queer as Folk.”It was almost cultic TV in its time. “Bet they didn’t teach you that in sex ed class?”. The pleasures that God gave human beings…its amazing where he put the greatest number of nerve endings, all by intelligent design. There are some great lines…they make mine pale into insignificance. Are you a member of the Hamish ? You seem terribly squeamish and anally retentive in personality. Did you hold wind in during your first phase of living ?

Like

Time to uncover the gay network of Dungannon-Cookstown-Pomeroy-clerical/education fields…. stay tuned 😏

Like

Chess time now…in bed…Chess.com Would you believe I was in Dublin, Dundalk, Trim and back to Wicklow …with all those posted comments. It does not matter if you don’t . Good Night and God bless.

Like

11.41 For the Very Rev Eugene Sweeney: How did the eight million in Tipperary work out. Yourself and your brother Finbar were the executors? What happened the Dublin apartment left to Sean Brady by an academic in Dublin ? Have Umit Kutluk and Fr. John Connolly split up ? Eugene, you did offer John two years salary if he wanted to leave …about six/ seven years ago now ? Why ?

Like

Well, he seems to have enough spare cash to eat out in Italian restaurants and travel extensively. He must have put a fair bit aside over the years. He must be in the market for a saga holiday next.

Like

11.12: No Bilser, it’s your bloody Auntie Cracky regretting she ever gave you stipends… you’re having a fab time since deserting… and she thought you were a decent man..😂😉🤣😋😃😎😊😉

Like

Rawhide needs to be careful. He could catch MonkeyPox. It’s alive and kicking in the places that he likes to frequent. Or has he taken to serious religion and is all butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth ? That’s my experience of clergy who get caught in the act. The become holier than thou. And more careful about what they get up to. But they still get up to it.

Like

11.14: Your comment isn’t proof that you’ve got an education…it’s rather innocuous. People do repent.

Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s