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WAS PAEDOPHILE PRIEST A BRITISH AGENT?

Belfast Telegraph

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/psni-unlawfully-refused-to-disclose-whether-paedophile-priest-was-state-informer-court-told-41969509.html

Police have unlawfully refused to disclose whether or not an alleged prolific paedophile priest was a state informer, the High Court heard today.

Counsel for a victim of child sexual abuse claimed the PSNI has breached his human rights by maintaining a policy of neither confirming nor denying the suspected status of the late Fr Malachy Finnegan.

Judgment was reserved in the legal bid to have the force compelled to act on requests for information about the cleric’s alleged role as an agent.

Finnegan, who died in 2002, has been accused of a campaign of abuse while a teacher at St Colman’s College in Newry.

He worked at the school between 1967 and 1987, spending the last decade as its president.

PAT SAYS

MALACHY FINNEGAN, priest, teacher and headmaster was a prolific paedophile over many years.

He targetted generations of Newry schoolboys and destroyed many lives.

And when he died the RCC afforded him a full priest’s funeral presided over by the bishop JOHN MC AREAVEY.

Mc Areavey had to resign when the truth about Finnegan emerged.

A BRITISH AGENT

It has now emerged that Finnegan, who lived in Republican Newry, was a British agent!

Was he given exemption from prosecution in return for giving the Brits information?

It looks like it.

How many people suffered because of Finnegan’s supply of information we will never know.

CAHAL DALY

Cahal Daly once asked me to give information to the RUC and chief constable Sir John Hermon.

I immediately replied to him: “Do you not think there are enough informers in Northern Ireland as it is without the priests starting”?

There are many hidden things that have happened in Ireland when it comes to Church collusion with the state.

There have been bishops and priests who have colluded with the state.

There have also been clerics who colluded with the paramilitaries.

And there have been occasional clerics who have blood on their hands.

154 replies on “WAS PAEDOPHILE PRIEST A BRITISH AGENT?”

If Finnegan was being protected by the RUC in return for intelligence (presumably on Irish republicans), then at least one person abused by him must have reported the abuse to the police. Was it Kevin Winter’s client?
What kind of information on republicans would Finnegan have been privvy to? Did he move in republican circles? Was he a militant republican himself and trusted with secret information?
For Finnegan to become an RUC informant, he must have had access to good intelligence. Did he obtain it, for example, through the GAA? In the confessional from republicans themselves and then break its seal by reporting this to the police?
I doubt whether the judge in this case will rule in favour of Winter’s client.
It is an awful situation to be in, but, sometimes, police forces the world over, including An Garda Síochána, have to look the other way with criminals IF it is in the public interest.

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Many of the republican paramilitaries were not church goers and the one’s that may have been were certainly not going to confession. It is interesting that you mention the GAA as a potential source for information. What evidence can you provide for this.

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suspicion of CSA hovers over the IRA (in addition to killings and kneecappings of kids)
the priest is to be lauded for fighting terrorism

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8:25am don’t you have any sheep looking for communion this morning, Father or has “covering your ass” become a 24/7 enterprise?

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The GAA had a policy of not admitting to its ranks members of the Crown forces (British Army, RUC, UDR, RUCR).
The GAA was naturally, and deeply, hostile not only to these organisations, but to the very existence of the Northern Ireland state as well.

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12:42 No, facilitating further endangerment is no longer tolerable there is no benefit to the public interest in placing certain members of society “above the law”. This corrupt narrative and practice has served the Roman Catholic Church very well for decades and at significant human and financial cost to victims and survivors or church related abuse and wrong doing.

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You are wrong, 9.26.
Both An Garda Síochána and the PSNI have said that the so-called ‘Army Council’ of the PIRA is in charge of Sinn Fein, which is why I would never even consider voting for Sinn Fein.
Other republican groups remain active in NI and the ROI.
Both police forces still need to gather intelligence on these people, which means that informants still have to be protected. What potential informant would supply intelligence to the police if he knew that at some stage his identity would be revealed under a court order?
NI is still under threat from terrorists on both sides of the political divide. This is not going to change any time soon. Nor should police tactics on either side of the ROI/NI border.

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11:28 who’s in charge of the Roman Catholic Church still running riot and defiantly refusing to account to victims and families. Time to call in the Criminal Assets Bureau.

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It may also have been in the interest of the RUC not to charge Finnegan with any sexual crime against boys. Back then, such a police charge against a Catholic priest would have further raised anti-RUC ire among Northern Ireland nationalists/republicans (overwhelmingly Catholic), because the scandal of clerical paedophilia had not then broken. The RUC would not have been believed; a Catholic priest would.

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Only for the second time has my phone woken me in relation to this Blog. I was awoken ten minutes ago to know if I had seen today’s Blog, I had not. I have now. Eamon Martin had a Blog done on him the other day but it is nothing to the ” discomfort” he will feel today on this subject matter. Not sure I shall go back to sleep as I think on this one. I have had six hours anyway…

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Mary McAleese has plenty to say. Her brother was allegedly abused by this monster. I hope she will have something to say on this news come to light on his clandestine work and immunity from prosecution.

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Mary Mcaleese has a license and doctorate in cannon law, she’s a cannon lawyer I knew she hated the church I didn’t realize this is probably the reason why.

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Archbishop Diarmuid Martin admitted Roman Catholic Church cannot identify new victims because they abused so many.

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IRA victims are numberless. Death toll is not the whole story. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ira-accused-of-child-abuse-cover-up
McGahon said he was 17 when a senior IRA member being sheltered in his home sexually assaulted him. After the attack, McGahon said his attacker warned him, “Listen, if you ever open your mouth about this to anybody, you’ll be found on a border road.”
McGahon said he told a local leader in Sinn Fein about the rape in 2002 and had to endure what he called a “kangaroo court” in his own home. He wrote in an article for the March 14 Independent that he was “quizzed by shadowy men from the IRA.”
McGahon said he planned to go on TV in silhouette with an actor dubbing over his distinctive Louth brogue but then decided not to hide anything.
“I was all too aware that I was taking on a powerful monster with limitless resources and a record of burying anyone who has ever tried to expose the truth at the centre of its rotten heart,” McGahon wrote.
“Sinn Féin and the IRA are one entity; a cross between the mafia and a cult. So a few sad childhood rape victims would be easily swatted away and silenced. It has one leader, Gerry Adams, who has remained untouched in that position for well over 30 years, unlike any other democratic political organization. And no one dares question the leader who is looked on as God.”
In McGahon’s case, he said IRA members eventually told him that his attacker had admitted to the abuse. McGahon was given options as to how he wanted him punished.
“The first one was for them to deal with it—put a bullet in the back of his head,” McGahon told the BBC. “It was said with such ease you knew that it wouldn’t be a problem.” In the end McGahon opted for another choice: the expulsion of his attacker to Britain.

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11.23

What are you on about? Doesn’t it trouble you that members of IRA-Sinn Fein raped young people and then set about systemically and systematically covering it up, just like the Catholic Church?

No, I don’t think it troubles you at all. I think you’re embarrassed that glorified Irish republican terrorists were as morally squalid in their sexual abuse of children as was/is the Catholic Church.

ALL abuse of children should matter, no matter by whom committed. Whether by IRA-Sinn Fein, or the Catholic Church, or by any other organisation.

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Official statement of the cathbot cult:
‘Look at their abuse not ours!’
Considering you pretend to be the one true church you would think you’d put more effort into maintaining the facade by cleaning your own act up.

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IRA rape culture is bad, but it is doubled with shootings and kneecappings. The cove- up is not church style shuffling. It entails physical threats to complainants. The article I linked to seems to be rattling some IRA fan. Here is some more of it:
“I learned of people who the IRA moved to safe houses, who then went on to abuse children,” Cahill wrote. “Of young children who made allegations against prominent republicans of unwanted sexual contact, who were told they were lying by family members to stop social services being told because it created an embarrassment for the IRA. I heard first-hand of allegations that victims were raped at gunpoint, or threatened with being killed so they wouldn’t disclose their abuse. I was told of people who went ‘on the run’, who attacked children, and who were then moved on and attacked them again.”
Adams admitted last week that he had been informed on McGahon’s rape in 2009 but said he did not learn the identity of his abuser until contacted by the BBC two weeks ago. The scandal has become a political free-for-all in Ireland as Prime Minister Enda Kenny accused Adams of not being truthful about what he knows about the IRA sex abuse. Adams branded Kenny’s charges “despicable.”

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Mc Dowell is an Establishment man. Don’t be fooled; he is indeed attached to the RCC and a few of its prelate s ( past). Bill Mulvihill

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10.28

Thanks for the link.

I enjoyed this documentary.

McDowell doesn’t mince his words about the perniciously overbearing and over-arching influence of the RCC in Ireland from around the middle of the 19th century until well into the second half of the 20th.

A statistic that particularly struck me, given the deeply impoverished demographics at the time, was the building programne of churches from 1829 until the early 20th century: 3000 of them, in addition to 16 cathedrals.

These buidings bore no resemblance whatever to churches built before the period: these, typically, were glorified stone barns with dirt floors, plain, simple, and relatively inexpensive. Contrast these with the archtectural sumptuousness and grandiosity of church buildings after 1829 (and, incidentally, during the Famine years, of 1845 to 1849). This programme, whose catalyst was Cardinal Paul Cullen, must have cost, in today’s money, literally tens of millions.

Meanwhile, the poor continued poor, and the poorest of them starved to death. But what are a few nondescripts ad majorem dei (‘to the greater glory of God’).

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@ 4:33
Yes, an interesting broad sweep of the evolution of Irish catholicisms monolithic power culminating with the Eucharistic Congress of 1932, including how it wielded power, which continues to a far lesser extent
in contemporary Ireland. The church had significant influence on public opinion. The last prelate with strong social and political interests was Archbishop McQuaid. He is rightly credited with developing social services in Ireland. Archbishop Dermot Martin suggests the problems in contemporary Irish church stem from the 1960s. Yet we know the Irish hierarchy acknowledged problematic clerics in the 1940s. Mary Mc Aleese comments on Sodano including, comments of Cardinals in Rome on child sexual abuse speaks volumes. Michael Woods obviously did Trojan work for the hierarchy with hundreds of millions paid out by the State as compensation for clerical shenanigans. There is nothing new under the sun. Praised be Jesus Christ!

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There could have been a very simple solution to Finnegan and his prolific criminal abuse, and that would have been for the IRA to have found out about his informing, and eliminating him from the scene – probably with a bullet to the head. That would have solved both problems. And protected the innocents on all sides that he was hurting through his criminality and disloyalty.

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Naive, 8.45.

Finnegan was a Catholic priest. Clerical paedophilia was, publicly, an unknown quantity back then.

Finnegan’s undoubted declarations of innocence would have been taken at face value by the IRA.

It’s interesting that you suggested ‘nutting’ (shooting in the back of the head) as a solution to the Finnegan problem. Which, of course, makes YOU part of the problem, too.

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7.70 The RUC knocked the doors of many houses in Armagh city when Mc Quillan under pressure from Armagh Archdiocese to disclose his many victims, they knocked doors to know if the families wanted to make a formal complaint…invariably they did not…but the Archdiocese wanted off the hook in the future so the police facilitated their wants….complete disregard for the lives and privacy of his victims that did not want ANY publicity. William MULVIHILL

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As a priest before promotion to Bishop, Fr Des Williams gang raped children at St Kevin’s Boys Football Club in Whitehall, Dublin, Ireland
Fr Des Williams was personal assistant to Archbishop John Charles McQuaid.
Parents of young boys who went to Whitehall and Santry Garda stations to report incidents of abuse on their children were ignored and complaints weren’t followed up.
Bishop Des Williams was episcopal vicar for finances in the Archdiocese, Commander in Chief, Gods money controller in a huge diocese with a quarter of a million churchgoers contributing to 2 collection he had masterminded for each mass every weekend. He hid behind a bunch of fellow bishops untouchable by normal standards of the law and who went out of their way to protect one of the most corrupt of their species.
Archbishop Diarmuid Martin gave Bishop Des Williams a glowing homily at his funeral in 2006 further undermining the lives of the boys and their families destroyed by Bishop Des Williams. Sadly, in 2022 nothing has changed, each day vile and abusive clergy and laity from the RCC expose their black and evil hearts and souls on this blog and elsewhere.

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The Archdiocese of Dublin sold ALL the land to the GAA for 95 million.
The GAA then sold HALF the land that cost them 47.5 million for 105 million.
That’s a GAA profit of 52.5 million and they still owned half the land.
If the GAA sold HALF for 105 million, then it means the land could have been worth 210 million.
But the Archdiocese of Dublin sold for €95 million what was potentially worth 210 million.
That’s a church loss of 115 million
Who were the GAA and the Archdiocese of Dublin negotiators
The GAA laughed all the way to the bank.
The Irish Roman Catholic Church Mafia & the GAA = Brothers in arms.

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Fr Sean Fortune was accused of the rape and sexual abuse of 29 boys. Fortune committed suicide before any of the cases came to trial.

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9.11 He suicided in full Benediction Vestments with the usual vessels or such a ceremony in full use.

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I hadn’t realized that detail and have just read the account in the Irish Times. It’s utterly bizarre isn’t it.

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Benediction vestments are more showy than Mass vestments.

Fortune was making a declaration, as much to himself as to the world: here is a priest of God, a man of considerable importance. Perhaps, also, it was an indirect, cackhanded plea to God for mercy, though in not a very humble way.

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Victim of Fr Malachy Finnegan launch legal action against Pope & Catholic Authorities in Irelandsays:

Good for ever on the scaffold
Evil always at the throne
But God stands within the shadows
Keeping watch upon his own

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A god who merely keeps watch while evil is going on is nothing better than a voyeur, 9:20. Keeping watch should mean caring and intervening to prevent harm.
And don’t come that shit about free will with me.

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Didn’t the Father ‘watch’ while his son was crucified? ‘Cept that he didn’t watch, since he was up on that wood with him, since there is only one God.

And he enters into ALL our pain, strenghtening us, helping us in ways we can never fully recount. He doesn’t watch; he endures.

There is suffering and evil in this world; it is an unavoidable part of it. Ask Jesus. But it will all pass, for good and forever.

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4.41

Indifference helps even less.

What you cynically call ‘masochism’ I call ‘love’.

If someone truly loves another, then that person will support the other in pain.

God goes further than providing external support: he literally enters our pain, so that its burden is borne not just by the person who is suffering, but by God himself; the burden then becomes lighter. But not without cost to God. And the cost is multiplied many times by the number of those calling upon him.

God cannot remove human suffering, for we would then cease to be human, becoming … I don’t know … automatons? But God can and will lighten suffering, if only we would invite him to do so.

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Bottom Line: never, ever trust these wolves in sheep’s clothing or the types they send out in their name. Don’t forget protecting the church wealth and secrets around its financial & other dealings comes first every time.

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Undoubtedly throughout the centuries the Church has been filled with abusers, traitors, conspirators, informants, cover uppers, etc….The church is such a vast empire that anything of a Machiavellian nature is not at all surprising. It’s concerning that any cleric would receive protection from the state as favour for being an informant, thus ensuring his well being and not that of the survivors. There should be zero tolerance for such practices. And any collusion between any organisation/institution and the state must be outlawed. if any citizen has relevant information which would bring justice to any victim or survivor, surely there’s a moral onus on that person to share that information?

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9:41 indeed, yes and clergy found to have knowingly failed to act on reports and/it cover them up should be removed immediately on conviction of the accused. Without consequences, nothing will ever change in the RCC. They’ve had ample and numerous opportunities to self manage and have failed miserably at immeasurable cost to victims, survivors and families.

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10.50: This “seal of confession” is controversial. What is your opinion, Pat? I have personally never been confronted with a serious confession of this kind. I have however, on initial infirmation in a confession, had serious concern about what was to be discussed. The confession became more a counselling session than a confession. I subsequently met the person at his request and took matters from there.

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I find the seal of confession repugnant, and if the church were really intending to stop people confessing and getting away with child abuse would have got rid of it.
I think it would be possible to have sacramental confession where the penitent confesses silently and the priest absolves. If you can make a spiritual communion you can make a spiritual confession.
The church could make it plain on a policy level that if you’re there to confess a crime you need to turn yourself in.

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As for “confessional seals” in “chapters of faults” these are the cover for cynical trolls to advertise and promulgate twisted thinking and relating and not get it cleared up.

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Roman Narcissistics are hypocrites
They pretend to have morals and values that they don’t really possess
Behind closed doors, they lie, insult, criticise, disrespect and abuse
They can do and say whatever they want, but how dare you say anything back to them or criticise them
They have a whole set of rules for others, but follow none of their own rules and practice nothing of what they preach.

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Reply to The Narcissist Roman Catholic Churchsays:
Sep 10, 2022 at 9:47 am.
More fool those who take any heed of any of them. No doubt here is no true altruism with those who are crawthumpers, and, alter climbers, it’s all done in the name of selfishness, and their overwhelming desire to attain immortality, the oldest trick in the book played out to it’s fullest, and they fall for it blindly.

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I’m a priest. If someone came to me telling me they had abused a child or murderer someone, I’d inform the police without hesitation.

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4.55 You would be in breach of GDPR? You could end up paying a big fine. Breach of GPDR in Killaloe Diocese has recently been lodged by a victim against one of their priests.

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5:57 proving for the umpteenth time that the cathbots have learned NOTHING about child protection in the past thirty years.
As if we needed another demonstration.

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5.57
GDPR? Gross Domestic Product … Restoration??
I studied Economics at kindergarten.

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Finnegan and the rest who died before they could be brought to justice leave behind them a shocking and excoriating memory for those who knew them, and in particular for their families. Not to mention the painful and sad memories that are still very much alive for his victims. I’m not sure I believe in Purgatory, but if there is such a thing then Finnegan and his co-abusers over the decades should surely spend much time there before even being considered for entry to Heaven, although I will leave that to God and he might decide to leave them there forever or worse.

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Pat surely if someone had confessed to either of the above you would say something ?

Confession is confession it’s your job to keep secrets and discretion is of high importance to you and rightly so but surely there’s a line where you could protect others from that individual who has severely hurt a child , which will be capable of doing so again without intervention. Murderers tend not to stop at one , peadoohiles don’t stop at one , rapists don’t stop at one unless they are stopped. If they get away with it once they will harm again.

You wouldn’t save a child being potentially harmed due to morals and principles, surely there’s a line, no ?

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I think it’s highly unlikely that a serial killer or abuser would use the Confessional?

I would try and do something but not break the seal.

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I would announce at Mass that someone confessed to me murder, or child abuse…to put the frighteners on the person if they were in the congregation.

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I agree, I can’t imagine a soul that tormented would unleash something that strong in a confession, prob only the dark web, but I would like to think if a soul was that dark, protection of children will always and should always come first.

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Your right though, I was forced to go to confession in primary school regularly , I lost count the amount of times I had to say I cursed or pulled my sisters hair just to get it over with and lied most of the time.
But then again we were forced, it wasn’t optional. You can’t just open up to anyone especially when it’s being forced upon you, it has to be ones choice to talk to someone !

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It was to get you used to the delusion that you would deserve to be sold the smarties, when other than JP II and Pius X, frequent smarties weren’t catholic anyway.

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10.10 He was. They appointed him . Just like Adam’s or Mc Guinness, one or the other of them. The Donegal killing was to protect the higher personage.

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10.41: In the analysis of Mr. Mulvihill, everyone is on the spectrum of being utterly odious, wrong, dysfunctional, bastardly and repulsive. He, I assert is in a spectrum lower than this, in a hellish, black darkened cul de sac..

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Padraig at 11:04
The reason for Mr Mulvihill’s analysis is he is, without exception, talking about members of a dangerous cult. The reason for your analysis of him is members of cults treat outsiders and especially those who have left, with fear and loathing.

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What killing in Donegal? To protect whom?
Are you suggesting that either Adams or McGuinness was a British agent?
As usual Bill, you’re full of it.
Prove me wrong by answering my questions.

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I don’t know the answer to that.
He was anti Republican in the extreme.
He fratinised with royals, senior army and police officers and senior government officials.
He was in many ways a West Brit.
I believe he received many benefits from the Brits.

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1.35

That’s one of my questions answered, Bill. What of the others?

Donaldson’s murder was in retaliation for HIS having been a British agent; it wasn’t to protect the identity of another, your so-called ‘higher personage’.

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all NI catholics receive many benefits from the Brits. Very many of them shared and share Cardinal Daly’s detestation of the IRA — not because of gratitude for British goodies but out of horror at IRA deeds and shame of having their name linked with them.

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If nothing else, Daly was an odious creature. Self serving in the extreme. He embodied everything rotten about the RCC.

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2.49

So, you can’t answer my other questions. This is what your comment suggests.

Choosing whether or not to answer reasonable questions about serious, unsubstantiated allegations is an immature philosophy of convenience that implies not strength, but intellectual paucity. In plain English, you made up those remarks, didn’t you? Why? I suspect that you just want to feel important in blog readers’ eyes.

On the contrary, you are NOT free to make allegations against anyone, on a public forum especially, without substantiation. Or did you throw to the wind moral constraints along with your priestly ministry?

You are answerable to truth and justice, to doing what is right rather than what is self-serving. As is everyone else on the planet.

Don’t think that running away from legitimate scrutiny of your earlier comment won’t go unnoticed, Bill: it calls into question the reliability of everything you have said. And not just on today’s topic either.

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4:47 Dear “Anonymous” – No one is answerable to you or your client. You will hear what’s to be said in front of judge and jury.

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4.47: I’ve come to the conclusion that Bill Mulvihill knows perfectly how to wind people up. The guy doesnt believe a word of what he prints. Ince he begins to write, his script are threads of sentences which are disconnected and meandering. I’d imagine if he cast aside the complexities of construction he’d probably produce classical pieces of writing. I agree with you that Bill should exercise responsibility with his new found freedom. Asserting our freedom does not excuse us from making scurrilous and defamatory allegations.

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Whoa, 6.45!

Did you read his correspondence with Arch Eamon Matin? It featured recently on this blog, and was written in much-the-same style.

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I recalled a quite hard republican(he was in Long Kesh prison I think) telling me a story of Daly family home. He said Daly family home was burned by old ira sympathisers back in 1920s cos they were sheltering some black and tans soldiers at that time.

Ex resident of abuse school in Waterford told some of us re a disaffected member of the De La Salle entered Smyth’s name in a Book of Remembrance in a church in Daly’s former diocese to embarrass him!

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Correction to my post 👆:

Cardinal Daly’s grandparents got burnt out of their home in the 1920s for putting up Black and Tans

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Cathal Daly had a fettish for belts. There is an infamous day in Ara Coeli when the one he wanted to wear that day could not be found. Hell broke loose. The VG PP of Drogheda was present. Sweeney, Eugene.

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A fettish for belts?? Come off it, Bill! A preference for one belt over the others doesn’t amount to a fetish.

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Disappointed with Bishop Pat that he did not publish my previous comments even if it was critical of the article here. I thought he published all opinions.

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Denis Martin Donaldson. Glenties murder. Is that you Adams ? They haven’t gone away you know. Neither have I.

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Who saw the big fat monsignor James Curry at the proclamation of King Charles II, swanning in a black ferraiola, white gloves and a tricorn hat.

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2.11: The comment of a bully. There was no need to denigrate by referencing his weight..Methinks you belong to the philistines club, the uneducated, uncouth slob type!

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2:29 there must be no mirrors in the homes of clergy and their cat licks, a few lacking a good shower too it seems.

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He wore a black Ferraiola. Not sure why he had white gloves and a tricorn hat. He is chaplain to the Lord Mayor of London.

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2:11. King Charles III, you fat ignorant buffoon – if you are going to insult the Monsignor, get all your facts right first. TRUTH is paramount.

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It was good to hear our new King referring to the true Protestant faith. At his coronation will also promise to uphold the Protestant faith by law established. And at his first State Opening of Parliament he will make a similar declaration. All this is one in the eye to the dressy-uppy, cosplaying Anglican homosexuals who affect Catholic usage and vesture and who make the preposterous claim that the “Church of England” is Catholic.

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Nice of you to admit that the Protestant faith is the true one. 🤣

Haven’t you got some dressing up to do, ‘father’!

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Man awarded £150k damages after paedophile priest abuse at Co Down school. Mr Justice McAlinden confirmed: “The defendants will pay the plaintiff the sum of £150,000 damages.”
It was also disclosed that they will cover the man’s legal costs and foot the bill for his counselling sessions for as long as they are considered necessary.
A further term of the resolution involves Archbishop Eamon Martin providing the plaintiff with an apology at a meeting to be held within 40 days.https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/man-awarded-150k-damages-after-paedophile-priest-abuse-at-co-down-school-41751140.html

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6.59: Pat, I thought you’d do likewise because you’d rage from the rooftops were a priest not to give necessary information if it protected an abuser.

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So are you telling me that if someone told you ‘ under the seal’ they were sexually abusing kids – you’d just say I can only absolve your if you turn yourself in and do nothing more?

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I would engage the person in every way I could to prevent further abuse. I would ask the person to work with me outside the Confessional.

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Perhaps the time has come to hand back to His Majesty King Charles III the island of Ireland with a sincere apology for how we have conducted its affairs. Further, what was not achieved at the Reformation could be revisited and we could instead of prayers for a foreign potentate every time Roman Catholics gather, we could Protestantise the Island at last at rid it of papism. William Joseph John Mulvihill

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5.25 ….and did it of papism….reverse the gift of this island by a pope to an English king….we can gift our own island to whomever we so choose now !

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You’re either drinking or mad. The troubles were/was are religious battle, for nothing. Ireland will be 32 counties and not because of religion or violence but a political process. The belief that something after our existence maybe a better wholesome life? Ireland is not a gift for you or I to bestow on anybody. Religion is the soul reason our world is almost at war, and China is soaking it all in.

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@ 5:25pm
Not spot on at all Bileen, I’m horrified, how could you say such a thing. I’ve always supported you from your detractors, but not any more, you have disappointed me greatly. What was not achieved at the so-called reformation which was in fact a rebellion against The One True Church. I’m not going to slag you because I’ve always liked you, but have not agreed with you. I will be praying for William Joseph John Mulvihill that you remove yourself from heresy and return to the bosom of your Mother The Church where deep down I’m sure you long to be.

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6.22: Be careful what you wish for. Mr. Mulvihill clocked out of the establishment having crushed his supposed enemies. Now he’s continuing the rage, the protest, the self seeking attention. The end destiny of his present trajectory is a complete implosion. It’s psychologically curious by way of a case study to observe the dynamics of Bills inner angst, rage and turmoils. I wish him well and hope he uses his energies more constructively. Otherwise his rage will overcome him. Bill, you’re a young man. Let you not waste your life.

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6.22: Bill Mulvihill has portrayed himself as a man of monstrous contradictions. He has an identity crisis, a humanity crisis. He writes pretentiously, enigmatically and confusingly. He mangles the beautiful English language. Regrettably, he’s determined to do so.

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7.50: How simplistic an analysis! Then you almost delight that China is sucking it all up but you forgot to mention China has a gruesome record on human rights, it’s treatment and destruction of the dispossessed and cultural and ethnical entities. Oh yes, come on China!!

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8.19: Pat, now you need to put your cards in the table. So, an abuser comes to you in confession and tells you about his sexual abuses. Once I would hear those words I would have to explain the moral responsibility for him and myself. Can we knowingly protect an abuser? Does the seal of confession give us an opt out card to protect an abuser? NO.

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I have done quite a lot of work with pedophiles. Nearly all of them pleaded innocence.

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9.52
So, you cant explain, then. Which means you hadn’t a clue what you were talking about.😕

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7.53 There is nothing beautiful whatsoever about the English language. It is the most banal of all tongues. Since your conclusions are structured on such a vacuous claim, no need for me to deconstruct your idle edifice of insult.

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As a Brit, I would love to have ALL the Irish back within the fold. For one thing, the Irish are the greatest warriors the world has known.

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Bit you allow women who claim abuse by priests on this to ‘abuse’ them and use this platform to do so, even unfairly …
How does that work…
An eye for an eye ….

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Bill at 5:25. Royal family’s should be left to Disney. In todays age there is no logical need for them. That having been said, as a Republican, I offer full condolences to the British for the loss of a very gracious lady

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Problem with a republic is you end up with scoundrel presidents like Mickey Higgins, McAllese and Robinson who cant keep their nose out of politics.

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Serial killers nearly all plead innocense too, can’t admit not only have they issues but they are genuinely distorted hurting the most innocent people in life that don’t deserve …I have watched thousands of documentaries on the different between someone drinks and snaps and kills someone in comparison to someone that genuinely enjoys killing people , they always deny even 20 plus yrs in prison they are sick beyond human comprehension and they know it

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@Pat

I would engage the person in every way I could to prevent further abuse. I would ask the person to work with me outside the Confessional.

Very noble – and what then if they don’t cooperate?

A waste of time – and in the meantime other children could be at risk.

I believe the sacrament of reconciliation is very important but I would treat it like a Doctor or counsellor/therapist. Everything I’m told will be held in the strictest confidence unless someone is at risk by what you tell me – then I’ll go to whoever I need to.

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@ 10:24am
How do you know what God wants you cretin. The Church has always taught you do penance for your sins. Nothing to do with a change of heart that’s only in the mind of woke ejits like you.🙄

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Is there really a need to go to a priest to seek absolution? The priest doesn’t have the right nor the authority to forgive sins. We all forgive each other having confessed to each other. This isn’t the sole right of a priest. Having confessed and repented to each other we are ultimately forgiven by God. The only mediator between us and God is Christ himself. All this say 2 Hail Marys and one our father in order to be forgiven or to show our repentance is a load of codswallop. Christ died for our sins. The veil of the temple was rent in two . God knows our hearts and when we are truly sorry. Not some priest from ballygobackwards

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