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THEY DESTROYED OUR HUMAN SPONTANEITY FROM BEFORE WE WERE BORN 😞

I grew up with a very negative sense of self which lasted for nearly 40 years until I engaged in serious psychotherapy and spiritual awakening.

That negative sense of self came firstly from my immediate and distant ancestors who had themselves being indoctrinated in the very crooked and dysfunctional form of Christianity that we call Roman Catholism.

In fairness, most other churches were as bad.

We were led to believe that:

The BODY was the bad part of us – and

The SOUL was the good part of us.

We were brainwashed into believing that our genitalia were dangerous to our spiritual wellbeing and nearly always a source of sin.

We were told that virginity and celibacy were the greatest of virtues and that marriage, which would not exist in heaven, was nothing more than a guard against “concupience” and a “necessary evil” for providing the World and the Church with new members.

Masturbation, which every normal human being engages in, was a mortal sin.

I was told more than once in the Confessional that every time I masturbated I destroyed 300,000 possible souls.

For the Church of that time and before, the whole human being was in the sperms and the woman merely provided the oven the bread was made in.

As a teenager I knew the very dark corners of every Confessional in the 1960s Dublin.

Years later, a priest I was counselling said to me:

“They wouldn’t let us get rid of our semen and it went to our heads and made us fucking mad”.

The priest was right.

So we were all the victims of Western Christianity and Roman Catholicism.

If you were lucky it turned you into a neurotic.

If unlucky it turned you into a psychotic.

How many thousands of Irish people ended up in mental hospitals, not suffering from a mental illness, but suffering from Christian-itis or Catholic-itis, we will never know.

The famous Irish author Tim Pat Coogan once pointed out that Ireland had been colonised by two forces – the British, politically and the Romanists religiously and morally.

In 1922 we got rid of the Brits from most of our island.

In 2022, a hundred years later, we are well on the way to getting rid of our Roman colonisers.

And it can’t happen a day too soon.

PHILIP LARKIN ABRIDGED

They fuck you up, your priests and nuns.  

    They mean to, and they do.   

They fill you with the guilts they had

    And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn

    By fools in old-style veils and black.

Who half the time were soppy-stern

    And half at one another’s throats.

Religion hands on misery to man.

    It deepens like a coastal shelf.

Get out as early as you can,

    And don’t spawn any clerks yourself.

113 replies on “THEY DESTROYED OUR HUMAN SPONTANEITY FROM BEFORE WE WERE BORN 😞”

Try telling Robert Nugent that masturbation is a natural human act of pleasure.
That man is obsessed with young men masturbating but yet refrains from having an opinion on ladies that also engage in this.
Robert Nugent has more questions to answer than he does to ask.

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I think Queen Victoria refused to believe that ladies flicked the bean and she also refused to countenance that lesbianism existed.

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8.56 You think? I bet you do a lot of thinking. Where is your source for this astounding revelation?

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The only shame in masturbation is the shame of not doing it well.
— Sigmund Freud

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10.12 haven’t you noticed Nuns are rarer than the Corncrake these days. What are you? Another Fr Aidan McCann, don’t you lot never learn! You are reminded that the remit of Bishop Pat Buckley’s blog is to expose the 2 faced hypocrisy of clergy & their cohorts in Roman Catholic Church, private citizens are exactly that and Roman Catholic Church is falsely hiking it’s perceived numbers by creating a false impression by making public statements claiming to be “speaking for whole communities” etc. Lies, lies and more lies and fake narrative from clergy & pals for own self interested agendas

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To be fair they do speak for whole communities, especially the ones who are racked with guilt for having a wank and become outraged when they hear Seamus has got two moms.

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I only recently learnt that DeV allowed the Catholic hold on Ireland and the misconceptions of sexuality because he was ashamed of being born out of wedlock. We live in the shadow of that guilt. Thousands suffered because of it.

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11.42 Dev had sound financial reasons in interests of Irish economy in hard times for keeping in with the wealthy and powerful Irish Catholic Church in the timeframe. He was also institutionalised having effectively been abandoned by his mother.

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11.42 There is a story passed down in our family that my husband’s great grandfather, George Ievers, paid for some of De Valera’s education: George rented a house in Kilkee, west Clare, where he apparently employed Catherine Coll (1858-1932), mother of Eamon de Valera, as the cook. This was presumably before she emigrated to New York in 1879 although she is said to have returned to Ireland on occasion. Norman Ievers senior believed that de Valera was a beneficiary of some of George Ievers money which paid for Eamon’s education in Ireland. There is also room for gentle chin-rubbing and eyebrow wiggling over the fact that Eamon de Valera’s first birth certificate record held by New York State named him as ‘George De Valero.’ (Turtle Bunbury).

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Yes, and to help other people avoid the confusion he suffered he enforced a moral code on the entirety of society to oppress and suppress, and to hide from society many innocents who became personal symbols of descent against that code – in line with the thinking of modernity but about 100 years after modernity, hence why Irish society was so late developing and so oppressed psychologically.

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This is what we mean when we say the actual church itself is abusive.
This is why the whole hierarchy covered up CSA: abuse of all sorts is the point, not an accident.

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Pat, you’re repeating issues…the poem you’ve used several times….All of us who are Catholic are in many ways spiritually and psychologically damaged by a certain moral indoctrination from the past. Not all of us. Some of the most honourable, decent, kind, balanced and genuinely good men and women I’ve met in 45 years as a priest are those who sought to live the teachings of the church and the gospel of Christ. Wonderful people from past generations. In a free world where religion and faith are sidelined and where secularism is the new “ism”, we have cast aside practically all religious values. Despite the negative aspects of some moral teachings I still look to the ideals of my Christian faith as a mark by which to live as a person of God, with Christ as the exemplar for living a truly good and “divine” life. Difficult, certainly. Today’s young children and youth have no such grounding. Their expectations of life, values, heroes and heroines are taken from their iPads, laptops, glossy magazines and pop idols. When we criticise the Catholic Church as you do, we often forget its core values and message and the much good it carried out and still does. Yes, we have reason to be critical of a moral teaching which crucified our conscience and spirit. But I still retain the core moral principles and ideals frim my taught faith. I don’t accept your theory of hereditary guilt…You and I and our generation have well cast aside “unnecessary guilt” many years ago.

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The problem with the RC church is that it has replaced Christ with a hierarchy of men and their doctrines and dogmas. Of all the main Christian churches on earth, it would be hard to find one so removed from Jesus and his teaching as the RCC

I was baptised a Catholic, raised a Catholic and spent seven years in a Catholic seminary and then I grew up and became a man and realised it’s possible to be a Christian and not be a member of a church which reeks of the stench of corruption and hypocrisy.

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12.19 Youth see what they see and respond accordingly, the blatant support of wrongdoing by the Roman Catholic Church is a visible deterrent to their engagement and rightly so. Generation after generation were damaged and manipulated by the greedy toxic cult. No more, Thank God. Keep safe and pray direct to God above at home.

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There is no such thing as God, in any form. Be that Judaism ✡️ , Christianity ✝️ , Hinduism 🕉 , Muslim or other.
The sooner people realise this the better.
It has always amazed me how intelligent men often become Priests.
Religion is the biggest fantasy ever sold to man kind.

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Liam I bet when you get sick and are on your death bed you will reach out to my Lord, who I love more than life itself

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And more fool you Brendan. You’ve swallowed the hellfire and brimstone fear perennially used by religious fervents. As per the blog, that admonition is similarly used in relation to sex by many clerics in that pernicious branch of religious nutjobs known as the RCC.
So you “love your Lord more than life itself”. …….just like the jihadist suicide bombers love their Allah.
Very telling.

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Your Lord, Brendan, (unless you’re talking about your Dom boyfriend) will have to beg my pardon first.

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Good morning our Pat, it’s my first day back at work, wish me luck please, it’s been a long time. Hope you have a lovely day and I’ll keep up to date with the blog on my breaks. As a catholic born, bred and berated, I too have felt that Catholic guilt that is driven into us from as young as 5. It took me a long time to get to that happy place also, but we both got there. Proud of us two survivors. Chat later.

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Did ya see the statement put out by the NI bishops on Tuesday past? They’ve a damn cheek to ask us to look out for the poorest in society in the current emergency crisis while they live in mansions

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6:25 more in their line to return what they never should have taken in first place. Lying 2 faced hypocrites.

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6.25: Aren’t you very observant? Now like a good man and a Christian, go and do as the bishops ask you to do? Be a wee good Catholic…go on, go on, go on…will do your soul eternal good, so it will, so it will…😁😂😁😁..Stop being a moan a minute!!

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The months kind of Fr McIntyre takes place this Saturday evening. What a humble and well respected priest.

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A priest has ruined my life and I will never forgive him even if it kills me I will get my revenge. I wish I had your forgiveness skills Bishop.

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You might try having some pillow talk with the priest? It will afford you the perfect opportunity to collect personal information about the priest which you can then use later on in a court of law. You’re welcome 😏.

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Revenge? Even at the cost of using and abusing the very people you need in order to satisfy your vengeful ways on this ?

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If I was you BP I would have a bed day if you could it is so miserable and wet and don’t feel guilty for it either!

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I totally resonate with todays blog like many others will also.
We need to shake that catholic guilt from us lay people to the corrupt clergy.
I honestly have never met a decent priest.

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How sad for you Maria, not every priest ends up on Bishop Buckleys blog, there is good ones lots of good ones. All wannabe priests (some not all laity) can be horrible too. It’s nice to find a happy mix. The good priests can distinguish the bad laity and the bad priests look after the bad laity. Its a process…..

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We should make it our mission that they all do LOL, whether negative or positive we should scrutinise them all.

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Your reminder at 11:47 that members of cults fear and demonize anyone outside, and fear contagion from them.

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Reply to;Mariasays:
Sep 30, 2022 at 8:32 am
It would be ridiculous to assume all person in one walk of life are bad, or good, as with the laity it takes all sorts, which we accept, with priests because many of us were brought up to give deference to the Roman Catholic church and its priest unconditionally, it can be a shock when you realise the buggers (forgive the pun) are no better or worse than ourselves.
Of course, trust has been blown to smithereens, once lost it takes immense time and effort to regain it, if ever.

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Queenievenus, yes it would be absurd, yet it is exactly the key to the whole mindset. However it actually applies selectively, notably in the abuse crisis where nobody was perfect and this somehow excused child abuse.

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I am struggling with my sexuality and my faith, I do not know why I feel attracted to men if this is not what God intends me to feel. The guilt I have when it comes to my feelings and lust are so immense but I don’t know what or where to turn to?

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I know what you mean. My adoptive parents were in the Ku Klux Klan and I don’t understand why god would make me black when I could have an IQ of 45 like them. She must have been feeling confused that day.

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Anon 10:33: beautiful comment. But many contributors here simply won’t ‘get it.’
Thanks

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Pope Francis will die before Pope Benedict. The next pope will be black Wilton Gregory and the world will end either through nuclear war or an asteroid.

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Agreed. It’s because Pope Benedict sold his soul to Satan so won’t die before the rapture. The great reset started on 25th September when they turned the 5G on.
Incidentally you get a free hat with every box of foil! 🤠

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@ 8:53am
If what you predict about Wilton Gregory happens, the world will surely end. It won’t be nuclear war or an asteroid. It will be Almighty God who’ll finally put an end to it.

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I love the pearl clutching that goes on on here.
It’s like when they go on about who is going to be the next bishop of somewhere – it is of relevance to literally nobody except a few Grindr clerics.

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Pat you were once a journalist, are you a stern believer in free speech? Or only those that have the same opinions as yourself? I am sick of cancel culture and the woke crowd. As much as I don’t agree with radical opinions they should be heard as equal as my own.

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Who is the alleged priest everyone is talking to on Grindr who is claiming to only be after mates as he is ‘asexual?’ Has anyone heard? Or seen proof?

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The wind today reminds me of the really cold days when we never had central heating, used a toilet outdoor, wore clothes in a double bed with one sheet over us, sharing with our siblings, and they think this winter will be an energy crisis

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To be honest it might do because Catholic guilt is never about anything important. Missing mass on Sunday is terrible but supporting the Chinese regime, running a corrupt bank and helping child abuse is just fine.

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Charlotte strelitz at 9.29am
TEN years too long, too late.
One thing that caught my attention was they would never DEFROCK abuser priests in the 1st place.
Not even the Vatican or one poster usually called frankie as fraudulent frankie could change this.
Remember a priest who took out a boy from renmore school classroom and abused him. He is NOT even defrocked yet.
How many more of them abuser priests, out there walking in the street looking for their opportunity to abuse it again.

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I haven’t commented in a long time as I’m now a recovering alcoholic. I am sober now, I urge WM to do the same, but as always – I urge every man to leave priesthood ASAP, it’s good to be back guys

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The RC Cabal is a front for covert narcissists, pedophiles, and other assorted sexual deviants who use the priest ‘mask’ and their position of religious authority to gratify the wicked & carnal lusts of their flesh. May they rot in HELL.
“Former Cincinnati Catholic priest told rape victim ‘I don’t have a clue what you could be talking about’.”
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/i-team/former-cincinnati-catholic-priest-told-rape-victim-i-dont-have-a-clue-what-you-could-be-talking-about?_amp=true

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9:50 Standard one liners from abusers & crooks. Deny, deny and keep denying. That’s what they do.

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My wife, who is much more religious than me, is passing on her Catholic guilt to our 12-year-old son, with her talk about going to confession, which she was delighted that he started to have to go at the age of 7, as it is a great way to use guilt to control childish misbehaviour. The age of 7 is much too low for sending people to confession. Future generations will think it barbarous that we did so.
Am I right in thinking that children used to have first confession at a later age, but Pius X lowered it as part of his drive for frequent Communion and receiving Communion at a younger age?
Even at Masses where children leave during the readings and homily, they still have to sit through the penitential rite before being sent on their way.

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1959
Fintan is now one year old.
Sive written by John b. Keane is a bid hit with the Irish audience. It is a story about a young girl born out of wedlock and living with her granny uncle and step aunt. The step aunt is encouraged by a matchmaker to sell Sive for money to a rich but old in years farmer. Sive runs away and drowns. Two travelling men pray over her body and curse the match maker.
Devalera is talking of retiring and ends up being our president. Sean Lemass takes over the helm but nothing much is expected of him as he comes too late to the job.

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10.02
Those were the days, my friend
We thought they’d never end
We’d sing and dance
Forever and a day!
🕺 💃 🕺

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I heard that interview on Newstalk……Fr. Willie Purcell talking about the Synodal Pathway which most people don’t understand or care about. He’s is totally out of touch with the people of Ireland. BTW, I’m also a priest.

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Are you in touch with the people of Ireland? As an insider, would you be bold enough to share your views on the current state of affairs within the Irish RCC?

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Maybe because Francis’s Vatican sex abuse investigator, Charles Scicluna who was/is a Roman Catholic Archbishop in Malta is rooting them out, it would look rather suspicious if he is exposing sexually abusive clergy in other countries and he did not do the same in Malta,
It was Scicluna who went to Chile to establish prolific sex abuse amongst the Roman Catholic high ranking clergy, after doubting Francis refused to believe it. The serial Chilean serial sex abuser Father Karadima affair, which also involved Bishop Barros, who only, happened to be one Karadima’s protégé, four other Chilean Bishops implicated, all in the cesspit together, one covering for the other. Three of his sex abused victims Juan Carlos Cruz, James Hamilton and Jose Andres Murillo, were immensely influential in having Karadima laicized, he has died since.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Reply to; Anonymoussays:
Sep 30, 2022 at 6:25 am
I think it’s all our responsibility to help those less fortunate than ourselves, one excellent way is to give a little, to the food bank baskets. It feels like real charity, you give it, you forget it, no accolades, no clap on the back for your generosity. Imagine if every person who shops, gave one item of food into the food bank basket, once a week, we, would be giving it not only to those in need in our own countries, we would be exporting it. The Bishops who live in mansion have the same obligation as the rest of us.

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Pat, I see you didn’t publish my other post with the link…I bet that means you are going to blog about it . Looking forward 😁

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2.22: I agree. Pat’s piece is biased, overstated and the usual insulting nonsense. Lies and distortions…

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Hughie Connolly is not settling well into his new Parish. Hughie misses the metropolitan lifestyle of Paris and the freedom of a double lifestyle.

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Pat, It would be interesting to research, how many of us have had a discussion about masturbation with our parents, and compare how many parents today discuss this sensitive topic with their children.
(I can’t even begin to contemplate having this discussion with my own Mother.)
I feel it’s still a taboo subject, as long as it remains hidden, it will have all sorts of connotations associated with it, because it’s pleasurable and involved genital stimulation, the idea in the religious world will continue to be, it’s bad, sinful, and should be avoided. Even small children masturbate.
There is the myth that masturbation will prevent rape by men, untrue.

It appears the psychological benefits from pleasuring oneself are many according to a small study, however there is a downside too.

Masturbation: The positive and negative effects on the brainhttps://www.medicalnewstoday.com › articles › masturbati…

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They probably wouldn’t have wanted to discuss it with you either. Why? Because these are highly private activities.
Yes, they must have hoped you weren’t indulging, but probably knew you were.
Best not talked about, eh? If we don’t discuss it, then it really doesn’t exist.
We were (are?) just prudish as the Victorians.

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4.08 Let us start sexualising our children from a young age. All those in favour of having the topic of masturbation discussed in Primary Schools as part of SPHE raise your hands 🙌!

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As long as it remains hidden. you are correct we should allow it on trains and busses and in the back seats of taxi’s. bring it out into the public

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Your opinion piece today Pat is spot on. However as you well know (2:20pm and 2:40pm for example) there are those who are blind and are probably so indoctrinated by the Roman Corrupt Cabal that they would believe a black cat was white

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4.16: God help your soul and intelligence if you depend on this blog for your guidance. It’s an “a la carte” approach to God, morality, Jesus and his gospel…choose the bits that suit..The engendered philosophy of this blog is ” everything is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone..” SELECTIVISM…God bless our CHURCH.

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Anyone from Killaloe Diocese care to explain what this submission on behalf of the Killaloe Diocesan Trust is all about? 🧐https://clarecdp2023-2029.clarecoco.ie/submissions/draft/submission-s2-824-killaloe-diocesan-trust-47231.pdf

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@4.37
It is normal for Dioceses to have funds some have millions in property like shops, offices, Licensed, homes and land.
So this is a simple application to allow the land to be developed and add Enterprise to it so maybe Killaloe has someone who wants to build offices or a factory.
It give the Dioceses of Killaloe better value for property and sites.
My diocese has 24 Million invested in Shops, Offices, Car Park, Leisure and land and that is outwith parochial buildings and centre.
Very clever thinking in whoever is advising Fintan and thee Diocesan Trustees.

Dioceses has two incomes the regular weekly / monthly and also the investments in shares and property.

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How very prudent of Killaloe…Wouldn’t it be more Christ like to build housing units for young couples? It says in the submission that ‘Our Client has been approached by the Developer to develop part of the subject lands for a Solar photovoltaic Farm. The use of part of this landholding for a Solar Farm with ‘Enterprise’ on the remainder of the land would be considered to be complementary uses. In addition, the electricity generated by the solar farm could be used to serve the ‘Enterprise’ uses on the site.’

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Crooks & criminals international living off the proceeds immoral earnings. Horses for courses.

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2:22 You do realize what an opinion is, don’t you?
The main learning points from the comments today are that the cultists still haven’t cottoned on that literally nobody except themselves cares what they think any longer and that they can’t adapt.
Remember folks, if you set up a cult, remember to include a convincing narrative for your duplicity and criminality, and if you loud pedal the immaculate bride bit unfortunately people will expect you to stick to it. 😂

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HALF A BAP
MY AUNT JANE SHE CALLED ME IN. SHE GAVE ME TEA OUT OF HER WEE TIN,
HALF A BAP, SUGAR ON TOP,
THREE BLACK LUMPS OUT OF HER WEE SHOP.

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4:19: ‘God bless our CHURCH.’
‘Are you not acting like mere humans? 4 For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?’ 1 Cor 3
It is always noticeable after spending time with Christians and then hearing Roman Catholics speak that they are all for their denomination and that is their only loyalty. There are denominational differences among Christians but their loyalty is to Christ.

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