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IRISH BISHOPS AND PRIESTS SALARIES

As the Irish RCC is funded by the public and dioceses are registered charities, the salaries of bishops and priests, and their employment perks should be in the public domain.

Irish priests salaries seem to come in at between 22,000 and 35,000 per annum, without expenses being included.

The priests of Clogher diocese, which straddles the border, seem to be the highest paid in the country.

In Armagh the priests get £ 2,200 per month, before and perks are added. That’s about £ 26.400.

Priests benefit from free housing, a private health scheme and a group car insurance scheme.

CAHAL DALY

CARDINAL DALY AND MR DALY-DONNELLY IN ROME

In 1982 Cahal Daly told us priests that the cost of himself and two auxiliaries was £ 120,000 per annum.

Considering inflation that would be £ 470.732 today in 2022.

BISHOPS

No Irish bishop has ever revealed his annual salary.

Of course, while in office, the bishop has control over many millions.

I would guess that a bishops’ salary is 50,000 plus, and many perks and free access to expenses and funds.

Many an envelope is pushed into a bishops hand by devoted priests and laity – with a “to use at your own discretion, My Lord”.

When Diarmuid Martin, who loves to cook, came to Archbishop’s House in 2003 he spent € 50,000 on a new kitchen.

Today that represents € 72,899.

If a Bishop’s salary, before perks, is 50,000 then the Irish Church pays out € 1,300,000 per annum in bishops wages – and that does not cover the retired bishops.

143 replies on “IRISH BISHOPS AND PRIESTS SALARIES”

A Bishop would not out their bed for 50K.
When staff could be on 100k why would a Bishop pay himself 50k when he is the Chief Officer and Managing Director.

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@ 11:38am
I don’t blame them, why should they, look what they have to put up with with all the malcontents and begrudgers on this blog giving out about them everyday. They are quite right.

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1.05

You don’t blame the bishops? Well, who would have thought so?!

It’s hard to blame the very people you ‘brown nose’ every day, isn’t it?

The bishops must love lackeys like you. Cos that’s what you are, a clerical lackey.

I hope I never sink as low for having so little self-respect.

Uggh!

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1:05 They are what they look at 👀

Why are clerics constantly checking this blog designed to support victims of church related abuse when the majority of posts by clergy & volunteers on here only serve to reaffirm their toxic tendencies and hatred of whistleblowers.

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Bill Mulvihill continued to receive his monthly salary of £ 2,200 for some 24 months after resigning

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That’s quite a salary given that housing, car, council tax, food, utility costs are paid for you. I would have thought all those costs would add up to another £2,000 so combined would be £4,200 a month which equates to a gross salary of around £90,000 before tax and national insurance. Not bad at all.

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He probably got a PP salary plus annual increments plus a top up for lost income (weddings ,funerals, etc )
I assure you not all Armagh clergy get £2,200 a year.

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@ 12:44pm
Fuck off ya anti-clerical gombeen, I’ve never been a clerical lackey and especially not with the bishops we’re unfortunate to be landed with now.
You can ask Patsy about that, the Bishops certainly don’t love me as I’m never done giving out to them. So get you facts right before you open your gob.🤐

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@ 4.02: What a nice man you are. I’m sure of that. Your first words demonstrate your gentility.

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4:02 Oh, Look Padre is verbally abusing a member of the public by calling them “anti clerical gombeen” & lying about giving TO Bishops but posting on this blog as anonymous!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thus proving the point of this blog that highlights crime, corruption & criminality in the Roman Catholic Church that there’s no such thing as an honest member of the Irish Roman Catholic Church.

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Holy Goat
Totally wrong a Bishop cannot claim a salary from a parish in Administration as it is the parishes that pay the Clergy so the Admin Priest or supply Priest claims the salary.
Parishes that cannot pay the full amount get backed up by the dioceses and that is how there is and will be more amalgamations to make parishes financially sound.
Bishops and Diocesan staff are paid by the parishes levy to the dioceses and some Dioceses also have aBishops extra fund.

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10:14 If you read Goat’s comment very carefully you will see that he didn’t say that.

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@10.14
When a bishop appoints an Adm he reserves the PP role to himself and gives the work to a CC. Therefore the Bishop establishes entitlement to the PP salary. If he draws it from the parish directly or a salary fund is a different matter. The point is that the bishop may legally arrange himself into multiple salary entitlements in this fashion.

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@ 9.30. I have checked my family ancestry and as far back as it goes, there’s no trace of Jewish forebears. So I think I’m okay.
But I’m a bit concerned about you. ………for other reasons.

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Pat, you said “If a Bishop’s salary, before perks, is 50,000 then the Irish Church pays out € 1,300,000 per annum in bishops wages – and that does not cover the retired bishops.”
How do you work that out – I can’t see the maths. It is a big jump from 50,000 to 1,300,000

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Ah follow the money – it all leads to the money and how much does a bishop earn and what’s his pension provision needs to be in the public domain.
There is resentment among English clergy about a bishops pension provision v bog standard parish priest.
The relationship between the Diocesan Treasurer and clergy is an interesting one and worth exploring.
They dare not piss him off because of the purse strings but they always despise him.
Positions like Director of RE or VG paid more and slipped more cash – how much more that’s what I want to know?
Clergy feign poverty but many if not most are creaming it – often life on the hog and better than many of their parishioners.
It’s a joke.
And skimming off the top and private bank accounts connected to the parish account widespread.
Money is the key to understanding and exposing RCC.
Birmingham we’re exposed because they were paying Penney and Robinson even when convicted and Robinson on the run.
If this is how they treat their criminal miscreants is it any wonder that the rest are richly rewarded.

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Clogher clergy get none of the other supports which other dioceses pay for. For example, many dioceses pay for health insurance or the cost of running a car. The priests in Clogher pay everything out of their salary so it balances out.

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Not forgetting the cash plus undisclosed benefits in kind paid out in secret bribery arrangements to prevent exposure.

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10:25 Shame you weren’t more careful of what you “assumed” you could “grip” without consequence.

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Speaking of pissing money away, was Rory Coyle in Lourdes with the recent Armagh Pilgrimage?

I saw a photo of one of the processions, but unfortunately the photo was unclear. The man in question had a collar on with some fetching sandy coloured chinos and of course, the ginger hair!

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There is no evidence whatsoever that +Diarmuid Martin spent such an exaggerated sum on a new kitchen.

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Prove he didn’t then. I was told this by someone from inside ab’s house.
In DM’s time I had a friend inside ab’s house.

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@8:16am
You prove that he did. You were told this by a ‘friend’ inside the Ab’s house, don’t you mean a traitor who was reporting to you anything to suite your agenda.

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Very interesting, the reaction to this comment about the kitchen. You’ve hit a nerve, our Pat. You’re the dentist of the Catholic™️ church. 🦷

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‘traitor’
Your daily reminder that the Roman Catholic ‘church’is an international criminal organization with much in common with the mafia, which runs a fake religion as a front for tax avoidance purposes.

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8.16: Hmmmmm….lies…your friend got it very wrong…but he knows that too!! He regrets doing so…i.e.lying!!…

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10.34 experts in charitable trusts, Irish government LEADER grants etc. No wonder no religion left in church, it’s more like a big accountancy firm.

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There’s a few priests in W&L diocese that have paid vulgar amounts of money ‘doing up’ houses. And parishioners aren’t allowed inside the front door.

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8:13 So the archdiocese won’t mind publishing the accounts for the kitchen then.
Go back to your masters and tell them that exaggerated claims are being made. I’m sure they’ll want to set the public’s minds at rest.

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11.47: Patsy, I wouldn’t have expected your “contact” to be female in your situation? Get my drift…whose soutane did you hide under?

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It’s all about the GRATUITIES. Show us da money Gangstas.

If you tell us who the benefactor is, I’ll give you back Sir Hugh’s letters 🤡

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An abusive community will condemn you for calling them out to give an account of their harmful behaviour. Such a response is deliberately intended to put YOU on the defensive and asks YOU to be the one to give an account for YOUR behaviour. Their intention being to change the focus and, therefore, directing the conversation away from the abuse they are inflicting on you. Stay strong.

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Yeah I have had priests scoff at me on here when I point out that one repeated illegal behaviour is rarely the only one going on (experts in humanity my arse) and Ryan makes the same point, that nobody has been paying attention to how paedophile priests financed stuff.
He calls it the second biggest scandal but I think the scale of RC money grubbing would probably be the first really. That’s why it’s run from a micro state which isn’t in the EU to avoid financial regulations.

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Theodore McCarricks moral Turpitude wasn’t limited to sexual deviancy, he was long known as a prodigious fundraiser, he amassed a small fortune which he used to curry favour with powerful prelates in the US and in The Vatican.

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Describes homosexuality as “an act of grave depravity” but continues to knowingly retain practicing homosexual clergy within its ranks.

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And that’s because that’s not illegal. If the activity placed the cult at further risk of legal interest as child abuse does, they would make a half hearted show of tackling that as well.

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On a basic business level in Ireland there must be a huge net loss. Empty pews, much less money coming in in collections. They must be selling land etc big time as well as dipping into reserves to pay the bills. They are cannibalizing themselves and eventually they will be nothing left of the rotten organization.
The fact that the mother ship in Rome appears to have no interest in expensive personal bills in Ireland like 50k kitchens shows they’re all at it over there as well. Only an absolute fool would give them a single euro.

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Pat, there’s no longer 26 bishops. Two dioceses have the one bishop – Clonfert and Galway – just a point of clarification. Ossory will share a bishop shortly with Kildare & Leighlin, so it’ll soon be 24 bishops rather than 26.

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9.39 that will explain the recent pay rises then. Heavier workload = heavier pay packet. Wish my employer followed suit.

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9.39
With more Bishops serving two dioceses as like parishes they need to be streamlined.
Dioceses have financial guys working out the forcast so it must happen the sooner the better.

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Archdiocese of Birmingham is advertising a post at Maryvale Institute for a Registry Assistant. (I thought it had folded ?! And we still don’t know what’s happened to Eddie Clare who is a prominent MIA). Full time. £19,811 per annum. Let’s for argument’s sake, say 37 hours a week. That works out at about £11.25 per hour. That’s less than the Living Wage (https://www.livingwage.org.uk/what-real-living-wage) which is £11.90. That will be less than the priest is paying his housekeeper. It’s certainly less than I pay my weekly cleaner at £14 an hour. So, while dioceses may be generous to their clergy, if not directly in stipends etc, but most certainly in the hidden grey economy that clergy have access to (free housing, heating, electric, food, drink, furnishings, decorating, car loans and expenses, health schemes, diocesan retirement grants, sabbaticals, courses and retreats which are really glorified holidays etc.), they are not being generous to their employees who are expected to work for below the Living Wage. Also, bear in mind the environment in which lay employees of dioceses are working, with clergy who act as though they can do whatever they want with no constraints, who largely have not got a clue what they are doing, who exhibit clerical arrogance and unaccountability, and who simply do not get modern working culture. Would you work for an outfit like that ?! Let’s hope that these dioceses have a proper set of grievance and complaint procedures – unlikely, I would think – because there will be many occasions when lay employees will need to recourse to such. There is a lot of bullying around. Even in senior corners of dioceses.

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Pat, if a priest is getting the lower end of what you speculate, that’s a considerable income for a single man.
Unless I have been misinformed, that money is most likely tax free and he doesn’t have to pay……
•Mortgage or rent
•Ground rent
•Car loans are usually arranged through parish at good interest rates.
• Utility Bills
Add to that the monies given to say Mass, or say a few prayer etc and we are looking at what amounts to quite a lot of disposable income.
I don’t believe priests should be living in poverty ( although it possible that there might be a biblical argument that they should) but I do think they should not be in receipt of monies higher than, say, someone on universal credit.

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10.01: Ciderpunk: In our Diocese we get a monthly salary of €2400. From this we pay our own utility bills – all of them. Car loans or part thereof is non existent: we take out our own loans. We return our annual revenue questionnaire with all relevant receipts and income and expenditure (bank statements). House furnishings are entirely our own apart from the basics. Smaller maintenance work is our own responsibility. While we have no mortgage and some health policy – which is a huge saving – we are not as rich as you imagine. Having come from a large family where we had to work hard for everything, I take nothing for granted. In gratitude for what I have I try often to support needy individuals and families or charities working with homeless people. I know some priests who literally give everything away to others in need.

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Is that a net monthly salary? if so, assuming you had to pay 600 a month rent that equates to monthly net salary of 3000 euros – or a gross annual salary of 50,000 euros which is a lot more than the average Irish salary of 44,000 euro. You’re not hard done by at all, and certainly far from being poor. With all the “put that in your pocket father”, mass offerings, and Christmas and Easter offerings it’s not a bad life at all.

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11.11
You know of priests who ‘literally’ give away everything they have to those in need? So, what do these priests live on? Fresh air?
You’re a poor liar, priest.

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ha ha ha Birmingham is notorious for treating lay employees like shite and paying peanuts – except the CEO and some other lackeys there creaming in 100k – a class action by a few would be great to see that house of cards come tumbling down.
19k for an academic registrar my cleaner is paid more – they play that card of vocation and love for the church bollox and just take the piss out of the gullible.
Westminster, Birmingham and Liverpool are loaded but for how long – check out Birmingham accounts – losing 5 million year on year – good luck with that one Nursie – let’s see how things are looking in a decade.
Eddie Clare – what the feck happened there less MIA more dissapeared of the face of the earth. Secrets? Scandal? Just threw in the towel? Who knows Classic Birmingham Omertà so must be a story – like John Gilbert – ‘his story to tell’ – although apparently Gilbert lives in the Potteries – pension? Money?
They love to be public figures but when the shite hits the fan everyone goes to ground.
Such hypocrisy, stinks to high heaven.

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Nope, neither Clare nor Gilbert just threw in the towel. They have been put on ‘prayer and penance’ and inactive status for accusations that have been made against them that do not pass any threshold for criminal / police involvement, but which some safeguarding person has decided precludes them continuing in ministry. The new power in any diocese these days is the safeguarding person, whom nobody will gainsay, and that person has power to make huge decisions about anything and anybody who come across their desk. They are paid well, given almost mythical status, and are the new emperor in any diocese. Everybody kowtows to them. No bishop will gainsay them. Gilbert and Clare, and many others, stood no chance once their names landed on the desk of the safeguarding person. It does not take much, just a tiny transgression or indiscretion, dear Fathers, and you could be put out to pasture on lean rations well before your time. I would suggest to any young priest to ensure that you have an escape plan and a back up plan, because you may well need it if your name crosses that safeguarding desk. Just having a little too much to drink, just giving someone a hug that is misinterpreted, just being seen around young people, just because someone has a beef about you, the list is endless of the things that could get you in to real difficulty. With no right of appeal, no justice, no future. Just got and corralled and powerless. But, just offer it up as your crucifixion, I heard was told to one priest, for the good of the Church. And sod you.

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That is so true it happened to a friend. The diocese had an ex-nun safeguarding officer married to a malcontent ex-priest. She was a real bitch. She was got rid of eventually but not before she had ruined a few innocent men.

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Leave the Holy Bishops alone! May God and his immaculate mother bless them. My granny was very fond of this beautiful poem so she was.
The Beautiful Hands of a Priest.
We need them in life’s early morning,
We need them again at its close;
We feel their warm clasp of harassment,
We fear them while tasting life’s woes.
When we come to this world we are sinful,
The greatest as well as the least.
And the hands that make us ‘fraid as children
Are the wandering hands of a priest.
At the altar each day we behold them,
And the hands of a king on his throne
Are not equal to them in their greatness
Their dignity stands alone.
For there in the stillness of morning
Ere the sun has emerged from the east,
There a child rests between the pure fingers
Of the wandering hands of a priest.
When we are tempted and wander
To pathways of shame and sin
‘Tis the hands of a priest that abuse us.
Not once but again and again.
And when we are taking life’s partner
Other hands may prepare us a feast
But the hands that will rob and undress us,
Are the wandering hands of a priest.
God bless them and keep them all holy,
For the children their fingers caress,
What can a poor sinner do better
But to praise Thee who chose thee to bless
When the death dews on our eyes are falling,
May our courage and strength be increased
To see, raised above to abuse us
The wandering hands of a priest.

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Did Fr Ronan Sheehan abandon his hairdressing course? Always another reminder of the Maynooth Summer of Love.

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11.59: Rev. Lecturer, tell us how much you give to the poor? As much as you gave Mullie, your friend, whom you now keep at a long distance? €300/400/500? How do you know if any bishop isn’t generous to others? You don’t. Stop your moralizing, Pat..

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11.06 Why don’t you give some of your 17+ grand that you claim is savings to the poor? F—k off Father Fornicator.

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1.27 I have a feeling that things are anything but cool in Coolreiry 😁. Btw Canon Todd, I was in the SVP shop yesterday & a certain family member of GF’s came in the shop to collect free diapers. Wonder who they are for ?🤣🤣🤣.

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@2.10 free diapers? Surprising but then again maybe not so. Maybe they were for the Clerical Incontinence mentioned before on the blog?!
Am not sure if there have been any further visits to Coolreiry. Sure isn’t he supposed to be with fine beoir now?

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He wanted to heat things up in Coolreiry by delivering coal. He got the cold shoulder however😂

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By the most trusted people and loved by the most unexpected ones
Some make us cry for things that we haven’t done, while others ignore our faults and just see our smile
Some leave us when we need them the most, while some stay with us even when we ask them to leave
The world is a mixture of people
We just need to know which hand to shake and which hand to hold
After all that’s life, learning to hold on and learning to let go.

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1.23: Ha, ha, ha…I don’t live in Clare nor anywhere near it……arent you very clever…?🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤕😠🤠🤡🤠…

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Isn’t it rather strange that Pat references the homes of priests and bishops considering he lives in one of the biggest presbyteries in the D and C Diocese – a house that would fetch many thousands on the market? Who paid for this property? The “sheep” of D and C which Pat horribly condemns for supporting other clerics? Rank hypocrisy…all the way.

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Here’s the thing, Martin.
Most jurisdictions have laws about adverse possession of properties, usually dating back to ancient laws where you could grab a bit of common land for yourself.
For example in the UK, if you occupy somebody else’s property without breaking in and they make no effort to get you out, after a certain number of years it’s legally yours.
Without knowing the specific details of Bishop Pat’s legal judgement, why would you be stupid enough to give money to an organization which takes so little care of its properties that a court grants the occupant the right to live there?
It’s striking that despite a court granting him residence y’all still blame Bishop Pat for that.
It’s like when y’all were furious because Canadian courts forced the church to sell churches to compensate victims. 😂
If the church wrote the law nobody would benefit except the church.

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I ‘m very grateful to all and to God for having a home. I was SENT here 38 years ago. I pay all the utilities and everyday running expenses. My presence here is 100% legal.

The living wage in Ireland is € 26800 year.

I have no problem with bishops and priests earning a good wage.

The bible says: “The labourer is worthy of his hire”.

But the vast wealth of the RCC is biblically problematic.

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Some would disagree with Pat? And you, predictably, are that ‘some’, aren’t you?
Fool. Predictably.

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12.08: Pat, when you belonged to the Catholic presbyterate you were remunerated as well as could be and you got many “benefits” for free…housing, food, car loan, all mass stipends. You weren’t complaining then about largesse of benefits.. Like your colleagues you got what you were entitled to receive. In the late 70’s, early 80’s that wasn’t much but we survived. I really can’t understand your obsession about money, yet you need it too for survival. Whenever I had a little extra I supported my mother as she was widowed at a young age. Would you begrudge any mother being helped in some small way? Im sure you were helpful to your mother financially and otherwise. I sometimes believe you don’t think things through sufficiently.

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I still belong to the Catholic presbyterate – but not the Roman Catholic presbyterate. Two very different things.

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Is it any wonder so many women are clambering to be ordained into the Roman Catholic priesthood,? It all becomes clear.
(“Big frogs in small ponds”)
A good salary, all found, and elevated position in the community, hand being greased frequently, maybe even a little bit on the side, what’s there to complain about? A grand life to be sure, to be sure, to be sure!

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The job of a bishop is testing, very testing. 50K is a low salary for somebody undertaking the work required and accepting the responsibility placed upon one.

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Can anyone shed any light on the salary of an English bishop?
Is an Archbishop paid more?
Or what about a Cardinal?
Elsie likes his perks – fast track at Heathrow and diplomatic status to mention one.
Can we put some meat on the bone?
Give us some deets about incomes and salaries.
How much does Pope Francis earn?
Benedict got a lot of lolly from flogging his books.

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I feel like the pope wouldn’t earn a salary as such. By that time you’ve sold your soul for life and in return you don’t so much as need to see the corporate credit card to get what you feel like.
Don’t forget that the model for the church is a mediaeval city state and the pope is in the position of king and will be treated accordingly.
Conversely the reason people like Elsie get obsessed with how they fly is they are second in command and aren’t allowed to forget it.

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Think so, the Pope is a monarch with few limitations on his power so can surely draw on the resources of his small but very wealthy state as needed. Having a salary would be a sort of mark of limitation, and do those things matter? Mediaeval kings were not limitless in power. While they could draw from their own demense (the ideal), if they wanted to do anything they had to ask the merchant class nicely, or perhaps tax the Church with Papal permission (or just borrow after seek permission afterwards) or seek gifts from nobles, or get a forced loan if he felt brave, or borrow from Italian banks, but if the king proved a rotten or incompetent sort, there were hunting accidents and similar. A Pope is, by contrast, a sort of absolute monarch, and the era of mediaeval physical menaces of, or attacks on the Pope, as with Philip le Bel and Boniface VIII in 1303, belong in the past. Cardinals and randoms waving bits of paper at him is the only menace PF faces.

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3.36pm

The Cardinal fronts up at Heathrow in his car and his driver drives him to his plane – that is diplomatic status, ie as if he was a representative for a country or state, oh wait a minute, he is because he’s a Cardinal, he’s got Cardinal status which is higher than a diplomat but similar perks.
Any more questions on the Cardinals status?

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More like a Hello magazine ‘celebrity’ but he would never have his quarters featured in that rag in case anyone asks who the elderly St Paul’s sister is.

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Who funded the palace you live in? Could a family live in that? Give it up and put your money where your mouth us is!

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I think the bishop, clergy and personnel in Armagh need to be paid much more. They deserve a pay rise. The hard work and dedication they put into protecting Ryan McAleer is awe-inspiring.

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A bit like Cardinal Cushing of Boston giving Paul Shanley a salaried ministry to street youth in ’71 after a decade of complaints from a mother, priest and others. Shanley was like a professional paedophile.
Obviously far less objectionable but rather sus was Cardinal Tobin living with a handsome Italian actor as +Pat noted a while back (https://bishoppatbuckley.blog/2018/12/07/sexy-italian-actor-was-living-in-cardinal-tobins-apartment/).
Wuerl ‘the girl’ loves his comfort. No 50k a year slumming it for him.

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He wanted to see the pope. If he ends up in Regina Coeli prison, he will get to see him at Christmas

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