Categories
Uncategorized

ELEVEN FRENCH BISHOPS ACCUSED OF ABUSE

Eleven bishops or former bishops have been “implicated” before civil justice or the justice of the Church after reports, announced Monday Eric de Moulins-Beaufort, president of the Conference of Bishops (CEF), during a press point, in Lourdes.

“Today there are six cases of bishops who have been implicated before the justice of our country or before the canonical justice”, declared Eric de Moulins-Beaufort.

“Two others, who are no longer in office, are the subject of investigations today by the justice of our country after reports made by a bishop and a canonical procedure; a third is the subject of a report to the prosecutor to which no response has been given to date and has received restrictive measures from his ministry from the Holy See”, he further underlined, a little more one year after the publication of the Sauvé report .

The ex-bishop of Bordeaux admitted facts

He indicated that Cardinal Jean-Pierre Ricard, former bishop of Bordeaux, was also concerned. The latter recognized “reprehensible” conduct on a 14-year-old minor, thirty-five years ago, added the president of the CEF, reading a message from the former bishop.

Finally, there is Monsignor Michel Santier, sanctioned in 2021 by the Vatican authorities for “spiritual abuse having led to voyeurism on two adult men” in the 1990s, and whose silence around his sanction has provoked, in recent weeks , strong anger among Catholics and victim groups.

Without going into details, Eric de Moulins-Beaufort insisted “on the great diversity of situations, facts committed or alleged”.

The 120 members of the Conference of Bishops of France (CEF) have been meeting since Thursday in Lourdes for their autumn plenary assembly. Their objective is to work on “concrete proposals” in order to improve communication and transparency in the canonical measures (of Church law) taken against clerics implicated in cases of sexual violence.

PAT SAYS

The news out of France is shocking in the extreme.

To have a cardinal and 10 other bishops accused of abuse and admit abuse is horrific.

Cardinal Ricard needs to be immediately removed from the college of cardinals.

He is still young enough to take part in the election of a pope.

The abuse crisis gets worse by the day.

The RCC is evil and doomed.

Anyone supporting the RCC, in any way is supporting evil!

145 replies on “ELEVEN FRENCH BISHOPS ACCUSED OF ABUSE”

12.47 Don’t flatter yourselves – that chip guzzling priest who sounds borderline impotent from what we read on this blog ain’t no Michael Douglas. It is sad to read how these 2 Clare ladies unfortunate to fall foul of his approaches are subjected to abuse and innuendo whilst he & his types are protected by the RCC for the rest of their lives. Joining the Church is a far better option than joining the Mafia itself it seems.

Like

Need you ask?
The RCC ‘s clerics.
The clergy in their arrogance,
they do what clerics do,
Close their ears and shut their eyes
to what their gobs out spew.
They tell us that their “holy book”
gives them the right to preach.
“A parasitical bloodsucker” is what they call a leech.
Any similarities?

Like

I’m not from Clare you cheeky shite . I’m from cork and don’t you dare speak for me and your also shit stirring on tonight’s blog pretending to sound like me. With your darling bullshit. I’ll find out who you are.

Like

Evangelical Protestants justify their attempts to convert Roman Catholics by saying that they have a duty to call people out of the RCC because it was so harmful and unChristian. I used to think that that was a terribly bigoted attitude but now I’m not so sure…

Like

The Southern Baptists commissioned their own investigation by a law firm. Those Southern Baptists?

Stupid 🧌

Like

That would be a ridiculous move;
Jumping from, “the frying pan into the fire” would be a rather foolish move.
1)The Anglican Church Investigation Report | IICSA …https://www.iicsa.org.uk › publications › anglican-church
2)The Anglican Church
Safeguarding in the
Church of England and
the Church in Wales
Investigation Report
October 2020

Like

Abuse, abuse, abuse – when it’s not Ireland it’s France or America or Australia or somewhere else day after day, hour after hour.

Liked by 1 person

10.04 Seanie Bhoy, Fr Rory Coyle is waiting for your call. £100 per hour & he’ll keep seeing you for as long as it takes.

Liked by 1 person

9:42 No thanks, best don’t forget if Dr/Rev/Fr Coyle or whatever Irish version of his name he’s using now gets notions of his own importance he could think it’s be ok to do a free demonstration.

Like

Reply;Seaniesays:
Nov 8, 2022 at 10:04 pm
The saddest part of all is, the sexual abuser Roman Catholic priests and their complicit Roman Catholic Bishops, and Popes, they are in fact the enemies of the Roman Catholic institution/business, not those who highlight or report it, or read about it.
A somewhat different approach than the deceitful, criminal, covert, coverup merchants, their paedophile Bishop colleagues, priests, plus religious order members who for decades, nay, more likely centuries, got away scott-free with sexually, physically, emotionally abusing children with impunity, they were untouchable, invincible, in such a position of power and authority, itself abused, no one questioned their cruel criminal misbehaviour.
I suggest you look long and hard at recent proven history of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clergy, not just in Ireland, but worldwide, and apportion blame where it is deserved.
I am grateful for a free press, thank you Boston Globe, otherwise we would be none the wiser of the corruption permeating the global Roman Catholic church, a spreading cancer.
There is no one to blame but the Roman Catholic church, and its own reprehensible employees, it’s Roman Catholic criminal priests, Bishops, Popes.
No wonder you are despondent, what decent person would not?

Trying to shift the blame on others, is not the way to implement change, fess up, be realistic for a start, no amount of whitewashing will suffice to hide the sins and crimes of Roman Catholic church clerics, too late for that the Jenie is out of the bottle, at long last. ,

Like

Pat, today has been a most blackened day yet again for the Catholic Church, caused by its own “filth”. Having listened to the Holy Ghost Order’s litany of abuses carried out in their schools in Ireland (and likely abroad too), primarily by priest abusers along with some lay staff, and having read the reports about the French Bishops, I am totally appalled beyond definition. I simply hope and pray that all those abused survivors will get justice in full without any delay. Most of us go about our work daily as best we can, knowing that our credibility is already smashed to pieces, but we still keep going. By Christmas I think I’ll be hiding in the basement in sackcloth and ashes! I agree with you that the Catholic Church is in deep, deep waters. There isn’t any more room to rearrange the deck chairs. We’re drowning. The barque of Peter looks doomed in its present state. Again, I pray that all who affected will receive full support, care and justice.

Liked by 2 people

It is highly unlikely most survivors will receive care support and justice. Most survivors cannot afford to legally challenge the financial might of
the church. The ‘filth’ in the institutional church is criminal. Covering up
is criminal. Church authorities gaslight re-traumatize and attempt to discredit survivors who come forward.

Liked by 1 person

10.13. I hope that you do more than just “praying “.
All the past praying, novenas, incense & thuribles and “holy masses” doesn’t seem to have been much good!

Liked by 1 person

Ricard needs to be dismissed from the clerical state immediately. The congregation for bishops needs urgent reform. How did these perverts pass scrutiny? Upon nomination and before announcing their appointment, the future bishops should go on a 30-day boot camp in the Vatican for evaluation and interrogation. I bet many would drop out.

Like

11.05 it’s like the HIQA investigating the HSE or all the cozy arrangements between Tusla and the Irish church.

Like

How is this shocking?
Why would anyone be surprised after the news reports of the past decades?
You of all people shouldn’t be shocked by this.
The only explanation which adequately explains everything that has happened is that the church is a criminal organization and the religious bit is a front, propped up by stooges.

Liked by 1 person

11.15pm Best comment today. Your most articulate synopsis of the truth about Roman Catholic Church constitutes a worthy example of well informed excellence. Well done & thank you.

Like

Before his passing earlier this evening, Mario Conti would once have called the abused “the opposition”.
No man of God, was he.

Like

Peter well said they are making him out a Saint just show the multi face Clergy in Glasgow.
Mario was a fan of the Daisy Chain and the daisy chain undertaker is his Friend so we will see if he gets the Funeral.
Desmond used to drive him around.
Mario covered up a lot in Glasgow and Archbishop Philip inherited it.
The Clergy always spoke about the pen pusher and financial whizz kid never about his pastoral work.

Like

His Grace will be always in the Clergy and Laity minds that he cleared the 9 million debt and has 24 million in the bank so that is well done Good and Faithful Servant.
Then the 5 Million spent on the World Class Metropolitian Cathedral of Saint Andrew and the Italian Cloister gardens.
Hopefully Archbishop William will see phase two of the Cathedral in the near future as a legacy.
Time to sell Archbishops house known as the Oaks worth a Million pounds as Archbishop William will not want it.
Desmond will look after Archbishop Conti very well and Professionally.

Like

10.39 & 11.18 – thank you for this information. Are there equivalent redress schemes in the Republic of Ireland please. We’d like to put any payment received toward a memorial for deceased members of our extended family who were exploited in mother & baby homes and any balance into a support scheme for others who need support & counselling from the effects of ongoing abuse.

Like

Oul Gossip Alert @ 9:36am & 12:00pm
You know who on giving her inaccurate information as usual, Marian Conti was certainly no saint and her successor auld Tarty was no better. None of them were administrators and were not known for their Pastoral work either.
Marian will not be well remembered for her willful destruction of the Cathedral which is certainly not world class. Her bad taste is glaringly obvious, it’s known locally as ‘The Gin Palace’, alas her vanity project of the so called Italian Cloister is the same. As for Bunty Nolan it will just be more of the same, he has already ensconced himself in the notorious home of the degenerate Fr Nugent. Who was infamous for touring the red light districts and having an affair with the Polish girl who was murdered by the serial murderer Peter Tobin, who buried her in the Church. Nugent had employed Tobin as a Church worker. What a fuckin shower, that’s Polydom for ya. 🙄

Like

If you think the cathedral in Clyde Street is “world class” then you need to get out and about more.
It’s a small insignificant church which is on a par with the toilets in many European small town churches.

Like

Interesting “rape crisis” post so near comments about Conti – suspect there will be at least one or two sleeping easier with todays demise …..

Like

Glasgay – talking nonsense. Glasgow strapped like everywhere else – Mario’s tomb is most expensive since queen nehfirtiti – £4m

Like

These revelations about bishops is truly shocking. However, I doubt if it is only the case in France. In these islands of Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales, how many abusive bishops do we have ? How many bishops who live secret, quiet, hidden lives which are in direction contradiction with what they profess as priests and bishops. If it can happen in France, then as sure as hell it is happening here. Sadly.

Liked by 1 person

Oh my, the mask of French Hierarchical caste has slipped.
A focus needs to be placed on Bishops, particularly those who seem compromised by protecting priests up to no good.
Didn’t this blog reveal sometime ago a deceased Auxiliary Bishop of Dublin had allegations of sexual abuse of children made against him?
Do we know if any of these French Bishops were involved in pedophile networks?

Like

Only eleven pat, give us some real news. Something juicy. Bring back the spacer who lies and always threatens the guards and solicitors, we get a good laugh off that one 😂

Like

12.55 please be more respectful of victims and survivors of church related abuse. there is clearly not enough legitimate or prayerful activities going on in your local church hence your frequent denigrating comments on this blog highlighting abuse, crime & corruption in the worldwide Roman Catholic Church. Look inside yourself, the truth will set you free.

Like

2:40 Yes you do, if you go to mass and/or give money.
That’s why Roman Catholic has come to mean paedo or paedo protector.

Liked by 1 person

Fr Sean Sheehy, Bishop of Kerry, Ray Browne, Fr Sean Jones & Kerry volunteers & staff.says:

12.55 The Guards that found Fr Sean Sheehys pal who was recorded on cctv carrying a woman to the back of a Listowel pub where they found him raping her didn’t call her a “spacer”. They didn’t believe his shite about her “asking him to ride her” either. Shame on Bishop Browne for allowing Fr Sean Sheehy to remain in our Diocese after the court case. He can go now & take Fr Sheehy & Fr King Puck Jones & a few other pervert supporters & staff from his various parish offices with him, they won’t be missed.

Like

@12.55 if they telling lies, you have nothing to worry about so no need for the derogatory name calling. Guards and solicitors are professionals, they know how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Like

In the case of Ricard, I am wondering what exactly was the nature of his alleged abuse ? My understanding, so far from reporting, is that he kissed a 14 year old girl. One of the difficulties we have is that ‘abuse’ is now viewed through a monolithic zero tolerance sense, and pretty much everything is lumped in to the same category. The truth is that a peck on the cheek or the lips, while in itself inappropriate, is very different from a rape. It will be interesting to see what any police investigation reveals, and I suspect in this case that whatever he has done will fall far below any criminal level, even though it will be seen as showing appalling bad judgement and inappropriate behaviour. But, I doubt if it is ‘sexual abuse’. That does not excuse his behaviour towards a minor from someone in his position and he will pay a heavy price for this. However, I believe that we should apply a certain sense of proportion to these reports and check them carefully before we decide that someone has to be hung, drawn and quartered without due process and cool, calm judgement.

Like

8.14 Well done on confirming yet again that the only motivation clergy & their members have is in continuing to excuse and cover up wrong doing via whatever means possible. Justice does not feature in the RCC vocabulary apart from fake lip service to keep the money rolling in.

Like

No, not excusing. Just trying to understand the truth and the facts. Basic justice and fairness for all. Including for the 14 year old girl.

Like

11:30 I doubt that anyone would want to kiss you without your consent so unfortunately you will never understand this and will continue to minimize and excuse ABUSE.
The fact you don’t think you are minimizing it and excusing it despite several commenters telling you, really doesn’t show you in a very good light, ‘father’.

Like

Reply;Anonymoussays:
Nov 9, 2022 at 8:14 am
How on earth do you deduce that conclusion?
He was a parish priest at the time.
Cardinal Richard’s admitted to his “reprehensible abuse”, no one else.
I reckon he knew his number was up, jumped before he was pushed.
He will most likely get prayers, & penance, from his canonical trial, what sort of rubbish is that for a punishment? I think there is also a civil court case.
He has lived the last 35 years, rising in the ranks, now a Cardinal. He admits the person he sexually abuse has had serious problems.
Starts with a peck on the cheek, then on the lips, then a fell of intimates part of the body, then sexual intercourse or rape, if that occurs with an underage person, male, or female, even if “consensual”, I think it would be fair to say, it is sexual grooming, and sexual abuse.

Like

As a Diocesan Priest I can tell you this is onlythe tip of the iceberg .There is much more known about involving other Bishops , and Priests that is being covered up .The church is in melt down in France .In many Diocese the clergy are totally demoralised .It is often one priest to cover 25 or more parishes in some places .Priests are supposed to retire at 75 , and areoften being asked to go on well beyond that age .
Many churches have a mass only once a year to prevent the local Mayor taking control of the building .There are few Diocesan Vocations now , and the ones who come through are often arrogant , and without pastoral or spiritual ability and understanding .The Papal Nuncio is causing instability by moving experienced and long standing Bishops from one Diocese to another.There are complaints from Clergy and laity that when they write to him he simply ignores the letter , and does not even acknowledge receiving it.The Priesthood here is often a gay profession , and cellibate hetrosexual clergy like me desscriminatd against from seminary onwards.

Like

Didn’t the Papal Nuncio to France grab a waiter’s bottom? Is it any wonder that these men were appointed as bishops.

Like

10.49 Jaysus, I’d say you’d have to be a serious player in the cover up department to be promoted to Papal Nuncio. Yer man the Nuncio surely thought he was untouchable when he grabbed the waiter’s bum.

Like

Why does the Roman Catholic Church attract so many clerical sexual predators?
Can anyone answer that for me – is the Catholic Church no longer the Barque of Peter but a haven for child abusers and more or less a criminal organisation which given the number of abusers and victims is surely less an expert on humanity and more crimes against humanity?

Like

Because the church has no understanding of human behaviour, specifically abuse, and shows that in its total failure to deal with its own abusers.
This is like a big flashing sign saying welcome to kiddy fiddlers.

Liked by 1 person

8:52 because the Roman Catholic Church jobs are the only ones in the world where abusers are “guaranteed” gold plated protection for the rest of their natural lives finalised with a state like funeral singing praises of abusers & no septic tank burial for them unlike the victims.

Liked by 1 person

Clerical celibacy is a myth and a malign device for all kinds of nefarious misdeeds.

The reputation of Catholic clergy and bishops is in tatters shredded and in the gutter.

Reform isn’t an option as they have dug their own demise with relentless efficiency.

Liked by 1 person

11.28 If you keep away from the Boiler House & the Roman priest sex clubs etc., you won’t have to worry about it.

Like

11:52 The first rule of Dunning Kruger club is you don’t know you’re in Dunning Kruger club.

Like

Gregory Cormican is dead, supposedly of cancer. Only a few years ago. Even if he did have HIV, he would have been able to receive drug treatment and would not have died from HIV. Very few HIV people on treatment die from HIV and live pretty healthy normal lives. So, I would suspect the cancer story is the correct one. I know of several priests who are HIV and remain healthy because they are on treatment. + Pat, as he has publicly acknowledge (unfortunately after having been outed by a judge) is one of them and I admire his openness and honesty and acceptance of the public knowledge. He keeps healthy and fit thanks to HIV treatment, and long may he remain so. I would suggest that if any priest is sexually active in such a way as to contract HIV that he get tested, and if positive undertake treatment, for his sake and for the sake of others to whom he could pass on HIV.

Liked by 1 person

1:52 Where do we even start with this nonsense?
Just to start with:
1. People with HIV don’t die of HIV. You won’t understand this so I suggest you find out how it kills.
2. You assume that living in a developed country and having access to anti retroviral medication means taking it. This is quite some leap.
You’re pontificating illogically on a subject you don’t understand.
My absolutely favourite thing on this blog is when the faithful get a golden opportunity to demonstrate their utter ignorance and run with it.

Like

No idea bit dioceses and religious orders should introduce mandatory testing. Big Mick of the Altar of Kildorrey may still be with us if it had been introduced.

Like

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/sspx-priest-charged-with-child-sex-crimes
Fr. Matthew Stafki Accused of Abusing 9-year-old girl.
“A traditionalist priest is facing criminal charges for sexually abusing a young girl. Father Matthew Stafki, a member of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), is accused of molesting his 9-year-old niece. The abuse allegedly began in 2019 and lasted three years, until May of this year.”
by Christine Niles • ChurchMilitant.com • November 7, 2022.

Like

11.35 Families with kids shouldn’t be letting priests into their homes or leaving them alone in church or schools with them & don’t be relying on school or church staff to take your side if you have reason to complain because some of them have been carefully selected & know where their bread is buttered.

Liked by 1 person

Well no surprise there then. So much for the bollocks about abuse being something to do with Vatican 2 and polyester.
The priesthood is the problem, with a secondary problem of the laity who take being fucked (I hesitated over this word but it’s actually most fitting, censor it if you want, Pat) by them.

Like

If Tom Winning had kept a tighter eye on the finances of our archdiocese there would be no need for Mario to have to clear so much debt. The profligacy at the time was breathtaking with favoured clergy allegedly running about with expense accounts and big cars. Meanwhile the sheep payed the debt off with their hard earned pounds.
Mario focused much of his energy on his Italian memorial garden in Clyde Street to remember the many Italians who made a very vital contribution to the furtherance of The Faith by selling copious amounts of ice cream and vast numbers of fish suppers. After the first generation their offspring seldom darkened a chapel door.
He conveniently forgot the vast contribution of the Irish and Highland communities who financially supported and built ( physically) the many churches of the various diocese in Scotland.
Had the late Tony Doherty still been alive I doubt if the Daisy chain undertaker would have a got his foot in the door here despite all his brown nosing of Mario and his fellow travellers.
Tony was the undertaker of choice to the diocese for years. He was a decent Catholic, no hypocrite and a genuine family man. No scandal.
Just a thoroughly nice and honourable man. I wish Mario and Tony peaceful rest.

Like

The Holy Father has included the Most Reverend Monsignor Brian Edwin Ferme, Prelate Secretary of the Council for the Economy, in the College of Apostolic Protonotaries of Number Participants.
He is a Portsmouth priest but a man of mystery? Only 67, started off as a Salesian and then incardinated into Portsmouth.

Like

You’ve been sold a brand and told that nothing else matches.
You wouldn’t be buying shoes or anything else from a firm that raped your children would you?
The RC church’s abuse of children nullifies its claim to be divinely founded, because it’s no better than any other. In fact the international scope of its abuse makes it worse. The only other internationally organized churches I know of are groups like JWs or Mormons and I doubt you would want to go to them.
Here’s the trick: search online for the names of other churches but add the word abuse (e.g. Larne Oratory abuse) and see what you find. There is no excuse not to know nowadays.
Good luck!

Like

Bishop Pat thank you for providing a forum where Roman Catholics can demonstrate by their comments that they don’t give a shit about child abuse and just distract from their crimes to bishops, vestments, other denominations, social workers and parents.
To anyone with experience of hearing the conscienceless speak it’s striking how they don’t have one.

Like

Pat you should investigate some French
monastic scandals . One in particular
would make Dom Kirby look moderate .

Like

Tom Deenihan’s handling of the Silverstream charade is absolutely disgraceful. All Dom Benedict did was call out wrongdoing e.g. DMK’s harassment, the addiction of the monk who was made Prior and the behaviour of the wayward abbot.
Dom Benedict Andersen is the true Prior of Silverstream. If Silverstream are also blocking the letter of good standing, it is an absolutely disgraceful. How can Silverstream possibly move on from the scandalous charade when Dom Benedict Andersen is still being victimised?

Like

Sadly the church always lags behind. The ability to not mis-treat whistleblowers is a long way off in the real world and probably another hundred years away in the Church.

Like

Elon Musk and his family , one of the world’s richest men, met Pope Francis recently at a private audience in the Vatican. Check out the pictures. Musk handed over a substantial donation during that audience that is not being talked about. Elon Musk, as we all know, now owns Twitter. It’s interesting that the Pope has now made a request to ban all pornography from Twitter. Should he now make the same request to Grindr, Scruff, Adam4Adam, silverdaddies, Squirt etc

Like

Reply;
Anonymoussays:
Nov 9, 2022 at 4:52 pm
What the hell are you on about?
They do so all the time.
Are you not familiar with what is said on this blog, and the constant, steady stream of Roman Catholic priest’s being exposed for either sexual abusing, consensual sexual relationship with males and females.
I doubt if there are very many celibate Roman Catholic priests, enforced celibacy it’s so unnatural, masturbation is regarded as a breach of celibacy, one has to wonder how often that is breached.

Like

4:52 Do what you like, in, out, swing it all about, I won’t be subsidising your 2 faced shenanigans but why be a priest in a church with specific celibacy rules? Is it the forbidden fruit syndrome all these Roman Catholic clergy are suffering from.

Like

Bishop Pat, with all due respect:
You are allowing a certain commentator to hijack the blog. The ad infinitum attacks need to stop. I have not made one comment on the blog today. Why do you allow this?

Like

11.08 Look at your own words and actions before pointing the finger at others.

Like

Just a very brief from sabbatical here. Normally I wouldn’t comment until news from France.
Not shocked re ongoing abuse by rcc all over the world. What was more shocking was the number of bishops in France – 11.
My question is that the Vatican curia knew it some 35 years ago but they chose to keep silent until now
Why NOW?
Now it seems to me that Silverstream had issued their 2nd book via Kirby.
Here:
https://www.amazon.com/Chaplet-Reparation-Other-Prayers-Sinu/dp/1621383474/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=L5Wkv&content-id=amzn1.sym.38bb2fca-b288-4f86-afed-5132328a7c6d&pf_rd_p=38bb2fca-b288-4f86-afed-5132328a7c6d&pf_rd_r=RS4AQAVZZMHCBP08J448&pd_rd_wg=pFctU&pd_rd_r=76a2261b-43a3-4b27-ab1f-7ea9cfceef68&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_mbl

Like

DG, I think In Sinu Jesu was published 2016. This Chaplet of Reparation and Other Prayers is from In Sinu Jesu. It was published in 2018. It’s what you call milking it!!

Like

Does anyone remember a caller to a radio programme about Jimmy Savile saying he was a kind man who taught him to milk cows blindfold?
When you talk about milking in connection with Silverstream that’s what you mean, isn’t it?

Like

FYI: Limerick priest Fr Roy Donovan has spoken out against Fr Sheehy’s controversial homily in today’s Limerick Leader. Well done 👏

Like

Ryan McAleer has written for the Furrow. And as a lay man. No Rev or Fr. He awaits Dr.
Transitioning!!!!!!!!

Like

Ryan’s article is available for €3.50. He is discussing how Francis can be the hammer of traditional Catholics despite the notion of Fratelli Tutti.
It’s worth buying the article if only to see how he is described. Unless they are bishops, clerical titles aren’t used on the cover of the Furow.
Usually in Furrow articles there’s a footnote describing the author’s statue eg “Ronan Drury is Professor of Homiletics and Sacred Eloquence at Saint Patrick’s College Maynooth. He is a priest of the Diocese of Meath”.
https://thefurrow.ie/product/fratelli-tutti-an-authentic-vision-of-dialogue/

Like

I take it Ryan McAleer is fighting a very liberal corner reflective of his lifestyle in Dungannon Co. Tyrone?

Like

He remains on the Diocesan website as a priest. Perhaps he is trying to be cool like the collarless priests in Maynooth

Like

😂 are you raging? While we all gossip on this blog the ‘MIAs’ has been quietly building an impressive CV. He and a Coyle couldn’t give two shits what is on this blog clearly. Seems they have both used the last few years well to help secure their futures. More degrees between them than they know what to do with 👏
I’d imagine it’s very liberating to have so many options that they don’t have to worry about Armagh.

Like

@10.32pm It is truly sad to see that some bloggers approve of sexual assault and sexual deviancy as a means to achieve career progression. Disappointing indeed.

You Sir/Madam should reflect on your moral compass, when you find it.

Like

10:44. Not sure where I approved of sexual assault/ deviancy. I think we are on different wavelengths clearly. I simply stated facts that the MIAs (who aren’t actually missing) are doing well. Not sure why people are so jealous of them and seem to get upset that they have been so successful. Personally, I don’t care about either. But I’ve seen no evidence of either doing anything illegal. Questionable to suggest their implied sexuality is deviant.. but each to their own.
I’d say we all wish we could get paid £100 an hour like Coyle. I say good on him.
Just because people make allegations on this blog doesn’t make them true. Good luck Rory I say. Ignore the two people who comment here and then reply to themselves.😅

Like

I agree. Credit to Rory for going and reinventing himself.
Ultimately, when fellow clergy are exposed for an error of judgement like in Rory’s case the end result is positive. It offers a pathway to realise ambitions that they most likely would not have been brave enough to do without a “push”. How many of us are stuck with no way out! We wouldn’t be reading this blog if we weren’t. 😦
I would doubt that Rory and others would give up the life they have now to return to the grim reality of life in parish.
Isn’t it ironic that people trying to get the boot in actually do them a favour in the round? Would Rory and others be where they are now without the push. No. They would not.
Once the story was exposed in Irish News I’m sure there was panic and a sense of doom but once it’s out there that must bring freedom. There’s really nothing left to attack him with. Those who wanted to destroy him have failed- arguably they have made him!
He has clearly moved on. Time others do too. I wish him good luck in a sense of Christian charity and suggest we all do the same.

Like

8:39

Absolutely correct. No doubt that’s why there are people on this blog trying to keep the stories of the allegedly MIAs alive. Random comments about them below most posts. Reality it is all old news. The main stream public don’t give two hoots. The people who aimed to throw the mud had a limited amount of mud and it’s all used. One would suspect anyone with a credible story/ allegation wouldn’t resort to exposing it on this blog. I would think anyhow. Good luck Fr Rory!

Like

Pat, have you studied the case of Fr Charles Davis, the English theologian who defected from the Church in 1966? The Dominican theologian Herbert McCabe published a critique of Davis’s decision – albeit a sympathetic one – in the journal New Blackfriars. McCabe’s editorial argued that leaving the Church because it was corrupt was unreasonable since the Church had always been corrupt.
Charles Davis was reconciled to the Church before he died.

Like

That perfectly demonstrates the cult nature of ‘the’ church. It’s idiotic to say you can’t leave because it’s always been a cesspit.
You might as well say don’t look before you cross the road because cars have always been dangerous.
The reality is the corruption and criminality are the best reason to leave. And if theologians are reduced to saying it has always been thus they’re sailing perilously close to the comment above that it is a criminal organization with a religion as a cover story.
They’re also destroying the psychological defense mechanism that so many of the faithful use, that it has become corrupt or a certain part of it is corrupt.
The reality means the only way you can remain a Roman Catholic is if you are either an abuser yourself or just fine with abuse.

Like

10.31
A sick comment. If what we say is an indication of who we are, the commenter is a pitiable and ill person.

Like

In Armagh diocese the vast majority of clergy look the other way on abuse. From the top down. Eamon Martin will listen and nod. Many victims have been fooled only to learn that Ara Coeli is where skulduggery thrives. Are most Catholics okay with abuse? No. Most priests however certainly are. Just don’t mention the war/abuse!

Like

10.31: A completely false premise, thus a fallacious argument. Not thought through logically, honestly, justly or intelligently. It’s the usual mantra, sound byte from haters.

Like

Dear Bloggers,
Over the past number of weeks there have emerged many allegations and shall we say questions over the ministry of Rev Fr Ryan McAleer. I feel that, coming from the parish of Dungannon, and having been involved at several levels that what I am writing must be said.
It is no shock to Dungannon people about Ryan McAleer’s outlandish behaviour in general. As a former Parish council member I can wholeheartedly contend that he is absolutely unsuited to celebrating Mass. The blog must understand that Ryan McAleer has obviously, and quite rightly, realised that although he did feel a call to priesthood, his circumstances have changed drastically. Dungannon was a safe bubble for him; many, and including myself, looked the other way when he would court other men in local pubs. The answer you would get back was: “That is my personal business”.
I hope he gets helped, as Ryan clearly does have issues. Perhaps a sheltered upbringing has led to a personal implosion. Perhaps his company in social circles has not helped either. Whatever the true goings-on with Ryan McAleer, he needs our prayers as he sorts himself and his many issues out.

Like

Leave a reply to Anonymous Cancel reply