Deutsche Welle, published November 8.
— A German bishop has declared that sexual diversity is “willed by God and does not violate the Creator’s will,” and that “homosexual lovemaking” is not an aberration but a “variant of human sexuality.”
Helmut Dieser, the bishop of the diocese of Aachen and the head of the Forum for Sexuality and Partnership for the Synodal Way, is known for his heterodox views on sexuality. He made his latest scandalous comments in an interview with the German news outlet Deutsche Welle, published November 8.
The German prelate said that the “current state of Church teaching does not do justice to certain realities in the area of human sexuality.” Dieser called the Church’s teaching on sexuality “too simplified.”
“This applies, for example, to the question of homosexuality,” Dieser continued. “We cannot give homosexual people the answer that their feelings are unnatural and that they must therefore live celibate lives. As a Church, we have to answer these questions in a new way.”
The German prelate claimed that “the science” would show that homosexuality is “not a mishap, not a disease, not an expression of a deficit, nor, by the way, a consequence of original sin.”
“The world is colorful and creation is diverse,” Dieser stated. “And then I may also accept a diversity in the area of sexuality that is willed by God and does not violate the Creator’s will.”
This is not the first time that Dieser expressed his view that homosexuality is “willed by God.” He made the same assertion in an interview in September, in which he also claimed that contraception “strengths the protection of life.”
PAT SAYS
Bishop Dieser has very eloquently expressed the non traditional view that homosexual attraction and love making is not an abberation.
In other words homosexual attraction and LOVE MAKING is absolutely moral and non sinful in the eyes of God.
Bishop Dieser expresses my thoughts exactly.
And it’s very important to remember that Bishop Dieser never used the word SEX.
He spoke about ATTRACTION and LOVE MAKING.
That’s a major mistake that the RCC and many Catholics make
They reduce everything to sex and sexual acts.
And forget about LOVE, AFFECTION, COMPANIONSHIP, BEING BEST FRIENDS.
Real homosexual relationships, like real heterosexual relationships, are about a lot more than sex.
AND
“God is love”.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
132 replies on “German bishop: Homosexual ‘attraction’ and ‘lovemaking’ not an ‘aberration”
Now wait for the queeny suppressed gay clergy comments that the bishop only makes this perfectly reasonable and charitable comment because he’s a friend of Dorothy.
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How could you tell?
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Wether he’s a friend of Dorothy’s or not is a moot point. Given that the majority of RC clergy, at least in the western world, are gay and actively gay – the current teaching on homosexuality is hypocritical, farcical and homophobic. And if it isn’t any of these things, it certainly needs reviewing.
As for the Latin Mass, smells and bells brigade and it’s supporters – two words – internalised homophobia.
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Exactly, Cyberpunk.
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It took until 10:19 but y’all are so predictable in your adolescent stage approach to sex and sexuality.
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God is Love and Full of Compassion not some judgemental God.
The Greatest Gift is LOVE.
Footprints is the sand says it all in a simple way.
The haters will be in full flow today saying we are all going to hell so take the splint out your own eye first.
As Pope Francis said yesterday Love the poor and care for the poor.
Most of the street people just want Loved.
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I think you’ll find that Jesus beat Francis to the mark on the love for the poor teaching.
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Pat, I applaud Bishop Dieser. His views are resonant with my reflective opinions, thoughts and insights gained from the reality of people’s lives, psychology, psychiatry, theology, philosophy and contemporary Catholic spirituality. I’ve always thought that men and women who are attracted to their own sex and who fall in love are truly blessed. They have every right to live their sexuality. The “aberrations” so condemned by the Church are people being true to who they are. Such horrible judgments which have caused untold damage to so many! This Bishop makes sense. The Church must change its teachings on human sexuality and acknowledge the dignity of all people. We all know about the ugly sub culture side of the gay world…That extremism to me is destructive of human dignity and the beauty of sexuality. The real “aberrations” are the abuse scandals by clerics…I once had the joy of being friends with a gay couple and I envied their closeness as a couple. As they grew older the intimacy of their togetherness was all that mattered: friendship, security, harmony, just being with each other. The Church’s teaching wants to call this an “abberation”!! How absolutely scandalous and un-Godly.
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Well said @ 11.22.
The RCC should go further than just changing its views. That could mean just quietly accepting without comment and “keeping their head down”. A proper response would be to openly state they’ve been wrong and apologise.
But the RCC being wrong!
Methinks that’s a bridge too far.
MMM
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How do we know that you are the real MMM and not the fake one?
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Danny Boy, the perceptive will recognise my style.
The “others” won’t.
And I’m not bothered.
MMM
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Bishop Pat, be careful who you trust. If they care for you and look after treat you then treasure them.
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Great to hear a Bishop being genuinely insightful on a topic like homosexuality and at the same time making perfect sense. Not for him the usual line trotted out of, this is the traditional teaching of the church.
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11:56pm Ireland is riddled with disingenuous Bishops.
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The Archbishop of Luxembourg and, I suspect, the majority of Irish bishops agree. One Irish bishop who hasn’t done his own thinking about what he picked up from childhood is far behind the others on these matters.
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Bishop Dieser wouldn’t approve of the Irish Clerical gay scene of Grindr apps, Boiler House curtain bums, church altar shenanigans in the wee dark hours etc. The Irish reprobates and their cover up merchants have zero interest in respectful relationships. Addicted to nasty abusive behaviour they are.
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That’s another issue @ 1159. Dieser is talking about the respectful use of same sex relationships, not about the abuse of them, which is what you see Purcell and the others getting up to in the Boilerhouse, Grindr, cruising etc. They will still be there when the Church is more compassionate and welcoming to same sex relationships, just as prostitutes, rape, sexual assault, cheating spouses is still about even though we value heterosexual relationships. We will still have to deal with the likes of Purcell even once we have a settled mind on these things.
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9:44 why is Purcell still financially supported by the RCC?
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8:51 Purcell is a “special” case don’t you know.
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No one associates the Roman Catholic Church with love. Their Sick & twisted treatment of hundreds of thousands of children and vulnerable adults worldwide confirm this.
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@ 12:02am
Well maybe you don’t but hundreds of thousands of sick and poor people thank God for the love and care given to them by Religious Congregations worldwide.. And so they should.
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10:46 your comment smacks of selective amnesia in the self interest of the RCC. The rest of us haven’t forgotten the hundreds of thousands of children and vulnerable adults worldwide who’ve had their lives ended or ruined by the RCC.
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Blow the whistle and keep blowing it.
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Pat, I suggest writing about Blackrock College instead of a la carte bishops. This is a real issue that has haunted some of my friends for years.
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7:23 continued Church involvement in education is untenable. It’s one abuse story after another.
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I am shocked that Micheal Martin does not believe the state should compensate survivors of sexual abuse at Blackrock College.
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8:06 The Holy Ghost Fathers or The Spiritans or whatever they’ll change their names to next to avoid the long arm of the law are morally and financially responsible for the atrocities committed by clergy and members in the Blackrock College student abuse scandal. Their charitable status and financial and property transactions should be scrutinised as a matter of urgency as some victims have already passed and many remain in great turmoil and distress as a direct consequence of abuse inflicted on them whilst students at Blackrock.
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8:06 The people of Ireland struggling with the cost of living crisis this winter are astonished that the Irish Government are paying out thousands to the Irish Roman Catholic Church for energy bills to heat empty churches long deserted by the majority of the public due to unresolved abuse and wrong doing. church has option to sell all their empty houses and buildings to pay their energy bills and meet their obligations to those they have wronged.
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Reply to;Taoiseachsays:
Nov 14, 2022 at 8:06 am
Why? It’s a private fee-paying establishment, who should be adequately insured, apart from the PRIVATELY owned land and, the prime property the Holy Ghost Fathers aka the Spititan religious order own in Ireland, and abroad, why should the tax payers of Ireland pay for sexual abuse by members of a private Catholic religious order entity. Even in the USA if a Roman Catholic priest who is/was seconded from a religious order to the a dioceses outside the order, it is the religious order, not the Roman Catholic dioceses who cough up compensation.
I wholeheartly agree with the Taoiseach.
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1:11 Exactly, well said. Church cannot expect the Government to pay for problems church created in first place.
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“What I cannot stomach were the other priests who clearly knew what was going on and did nothing about it”. Fr Vincent Mercer. See today’s Irish Times
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SAINT SAVOURS: Father Gearóid Manning, provincial of the Dominican Order in Ireland, told the investigation committee yesterday that allegations of abuse at their St Saviour’s orphanage in Dublin first emerged in 1995. The orphanage was closed in 1993. The three former staff concerned included a member of the order, a lay man and a lay woman. The woman is deceased. The layman cannot be traced, and the member of the order has denied the allegations. The order’s inquiries into the complaints had been “inconclusive”, Father Manning said. IRISH TIMES 1-07-2004 – any update on this?
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Reply to;Dominicans reign of terrorsays:
Nov 14, 2022 at 8:14 am
Why on earth would they bring the reputation of the school into disrespect/ Spoil their method of making bread and honey from the exorbitant school fees.
Does this story ring a familiar bell WITH ?
Roman Catholic Ampleforth College, Yorkshire
Roman Catholic Downside school, Somerset
Roman Catholic St Benedicts’ Ealing.
St Colman’s College Newry Down
Conclusion of the IICA Inquiry finds Roman Catholic Church prioritised reputation over the welfare of children
News 9th Nov 2020.
I would go even further than the IICSA, those Roman Catholic schools had only ONE ambition, it was nothing to do with the reputation of the Roman Catholic church, all endeavoured to protect their cash cow, their school’s reputation above all else, so by doing so they had to give succour, and coverup for the sexual abusers in their communities, to hell with the Roman Catholic children in their care, I include that complicit old fart, Basil Hume the arch hypocrite.
“On the whole, monks do not become famous – and that is a good thing – but monasteries do – and that is an excellent thing. In other words, it is the community that matters.
Basil Hume
(How bloody ironic!!
Never in Hume’s wildest dreams, did he think Ampleforth and, it’s sexually perverted ephebophile and, paedophile Benedictine monks would hit the headlines, exposing their den of iniquity.)
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The fact is that many clerics including those featured on this blog and elsewhere, Abbot Purcell, Fr Aidan McCann, Mark Kirby being a few who spring immediately to mind, there are many others- they and their protectors are uninterested and incapable of “real” relationships, homosexual or heterosexual.
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1 – whatever the reason for Kinsey’s and Klein’s studies on spectrums of orientations, they describe incidentals so can’t be the basis for the newfangled doctrines of the last century.
2 – the church is unable to advertise degrees of situational integrity in living at individual discretion, because it thought “aggiornamento” and eucharistolatry would make any prayers for us unnecessary. To Rome, children and people not in power are figments / dirt / machines, so Rome is hostile to our acquiring any integrity.
3 – hence the boy- and girl-hating culture now prevalent throughout the world, and billions of people who haven’t got enough friends of any sort.
4 – Rome abolished truth and privacy so who will now accept your truth and my truth? By fussing over whether Scots priests wear anything under their polyester cassocks, we are not descending below their level (sin levelling).
5 – thus “homosexuality” is irrelevant to the self-referential “synodality itinerary”.
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Totally baffling comment at 09:34am.
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Well said
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Dieser is not alone in thinking creatively and compassionately about sexuality, also about other seemingly intractable problems I would imagine. There are other bishops in Germany as well as the Archbishop of Luxembourg who have asked similar questions. The issue is about being able to see doctrine and tradition as being capable of development and growth, or just seeing them as set and immutable. Pretty much everything else in our lives, cultures and societies develops over the centuries, so why is it so awful to believe that we could look at things afresh that have to do with doctrine, tradition, scripture, dogma and morality ? So, I welcome these kinds of intervention, as they help the conversation to move forward. He will not get slapped down by the Vatican because Francis in on this page as well. Wouldn’t it be great is we had one of our ‘yes’ men / company men in these islands step out and be bold and creative ? But, it doubt if +Armagh, or + Westminster or any of the dolts that wear pointy hats in our islands would have the wit to do anything like that. They just want to keep it safe, mostly for themselves, and to leave the real issues of the time to others, kick things down the road. That is not leadership. We deserve better.
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This is as controversial, perhaps more so than woman priests. Can you imagine what JP II or Benedict would have done to a dissenting bishop like this? When Cardinal O’Brien got a little bit carried away with the idea of married priest she was called into the Holy Office and had the thumb screws applied.
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Who says it’s controversial idea ? Most people in the Church believe it. Only self-interested, repressed and denying priests and bishops think it’s a problem. Because they use homophobia as a cover for their own repressed inclination. I doubt if this bishop will have the thumbscrews applied. There are lots more who think like him, and hopefully they will have the courage to come out of the woodwork and support him. Not the vacillating little girly bishops of these islands, I doubt. They have no backbone.
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1:25 Gut churning poodle cliques. Wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit them on nose.
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8.57
Argumentum ad hominem. Address the issue.
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It is so radical, honest and refreshing to read the enlightened Bishop Dieser of Aachen. Here is a radical departure, though he will undoubtedly be accused of creating confusion and heresy. The Church needs to reevaluate its understanding of human sexuality in light of modern scientific analysis and research, advances in human thought evolution, psychology and medicine. The one constant is GOD IS LOVE: we have created aberrations of this reality whereby, when as a children/teenagers, many of us were threatened by the SACRED Heart Picture on our kitchen walls. A beautiful image of Jesus’s outstretched arms, heart glowing with light, as if to embrace us. Instead we were told “the SACRED Heart is looking at you”!!! Thank God, I grew out of that image of a vengeful God quickly. When Pioe Francis said “Who am I to judge..” I thought, wonderful! Yes, we can never weaponise or use sexuality to destroy people’s inate dignity and humanity. There are, sadly, industries of aberrations of sex simply to make profit and some of this industry is horrendously sadistic, crazy and potentially fatal. However, in a relationship of mutual love, trust, respect, intimacy, care and closeness, who indeed am I, a priest, to judge!! I believe much of the sexual aberrations of clericalism with the indescribable pain, hurt and damage caused to victims/survivors is caused by a repressive, rigid and twisted understanding of sexuality and all the sins we attach to it. Many of us grew up with shame. Bishop Dieser is an enlightened man. God bless his mind and intellectual integrity.
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Reply to;Martinsays:
Nov 14, 2022 at 9:49 am
I have often pondered of Francis’ reply, I have an inkling Francis is fond of the boys too. Watching his inaction, his demeanour, when he was with Zancheeta, says it all. Apart from Francis’ making sure Zancheeta would have a cushy number after his court case in Argentina.
“We try to hide our feelings’ but the eyesspeak”
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How can you be certain you are gay if you have never even attempted to be with a woman, or even tried it?
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10.13
This sounds an honest question. Of you think it through all you need to ponder is why a male has never attempted to be with a woman. That is the symptom of being gay, not its cause.
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Clearly that Bishop is a repressed homosexual. Let’s face it, how many straight men genuinely sympathise or empathise with gay men?
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10.19
Many. And those who don’t ought to. That view was put forward at the time of the Suffragettes in relation to the equality of the sexes.
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That Bishop should be sacked
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The bishop needs to declare an interest.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Nov 14, 2022 at 10:52 am
And the rest……….
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10.52
All of us should be interested in justice and in the flourishing of the whole human family.
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Did you receive your Ukrainians today? I did and they are splendid
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Prior to the Great Jubilee 2000 the pope expressed repentance for the Crusades and the Inquisition- before a bishop pops up and gives us the benefit of new Catholic teaching he and they should express some form of sorrow and repentance for the way the church has treated homosexuals throughout history and for their hypocrisy as many clergy and bishops are active homosexuals under the cloak of celibacy.
The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven and the true pontifical secret (the homosexualisation of the clergy) is impossible to hide!!
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I applaud and agree with you on this subject. A brave Bishop, that should not be hailed as ‘brave’ because he recognises genuine love. Times are changing within the church, slowly albeit
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It is important to open the heart, to things that challenge us and our own faith. People, us, are born with our sexualities. God blessed us with it.
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Tributes are coming in on Irish media this morning announcing the passing of Vicky Phelan. The Irish Prime Minister/An Taoiseach, Michael Martin, has led the tributes describing Irish health screening whistleblower, Vicky Phelan, as a “woman of extraordinary courage and integrity”. Rest in peace.
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12.03: The ciurafeous Vicky said she did not want the praise of politicians nor their aide de camps at her funeral…yet these politicians who failed her do the opposite. Vicky rightly deserves the admiration and gratitude of all of us. Louise O Keefe, spoke today, who was abused by a lay teacher had to fight every step of the courts for justuce while Ministers for Education placed every obstacle in her way. Various media Ministers for Health ignored the concerns of people like Vicky and whistleblowers and fought them aggressively in the courts as they sought justice. Some of the affected women whose smear tests and scans were misdiagnosed have died, yet no minister for health during these unnecessary battles in courts ever personally apologised for the wrongs of their department. Now they speak of Vicky as if she was their best friend!! The hypocrisy of our political elite is sickening. May God be kind to Vicky and bless her grieving family.
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Michael Martin speaking to Claire Byrne Show on RTE this morning credits Vicky for her courage in speaking out in the public interest.
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@12:41 A contributor also spoke to journalist and broadcaster Claire Byrne about attempts that had been made to gag Vicky Phelan from publicising and campaigning on behalf of others and to make the screening service more transparent and ultimately fit for purpose.
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Mother Burke will be getting her big lace panties into a twist this morning upon reading her brother bishop’s thoughts. Why are there no courageous US bishops, or even English ones?
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GOOD QUESTION… !
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@ 12:46pm
Cardinal Burke will probably be the only courageous prelate to speak out against this mad and bad bishop.
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Don’t be ridiculous, 12:46. The US and English bishops to a man followed orders and courageously covered up crime and helped their clergy rape more children.
At no thought of any personal loss of reputation.
Such selfless obedience can only be considered courageous, and once you’ve done that, consensual sex between adults is a bit insignificant.
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@ 12:46pm
You seem to have your cheap nasty synthetic panties in a twist, maybe because you read about your sister bishop’s strange ideas, that’s Germans for you
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3.44
Bela disagrees with the good bishop but is unable to critique his arguments. The only strategy adopted by Bela is to denigrate the speaker.
The anomaly in all of this is that a commenter informed us some time ago the Tridentine devotee Bela actually lives a live that includes same-sex activity.
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Of course there are such courageous bishops. It takes courage to teach truth in a time when moral orthodoxy is increasingly unfashionable, and it’s upholder’s relentlessly ridiculed.
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5.17
Moral orthodoxy involves recognising the signs of the times. God also speaks to us through our own powers of reason.
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Same sex couples being blessed in Belgium and Germany by Roman Catholic church clergy, with the Anglican’s paving the way in U.K
1)Bishop takes part in gay blessing services in Germanyhttps://www.thetablet.co.uk › news › bishop-takes-part-i…
16 May 2022
2)Defying Vatican, Flemish bishops allow blessing same-sex …https://www.reuters.com › world › europe › flemish-catho…
20 Sept 2022 —
3)
Five more Anglican bishops back same-sex marriages in churchhttps://www.theguardian.com › world › 2022 › nov › fi…
4 Nov 2022
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Being a priest is still a handy number. They do what they like and their bosses don’t do a thing about it other than try to replace literally non existent vocations with lay cover up merchants, most of them carefully selected for their specific sets of business skills & networks from the professional classes. As the retired detective said “there’s no such thing as coincidence”.
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@1:24 true for you. The devil makes work for idle hands, they can’t even go in a shopping Center but they have to be tormenting women in toilets and changing rooms. When is Fr Aidan McCann back in court?
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Delighted that our Church keeps you guys happy. Tell us about your Church?
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The possessiveness inherent in this repeated comment indicates the writer doesn’t understand what Catholic means.
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1.24: You know nothing about Parishes and personnel who are part of their groups and activities. Your comment is ignorant and offensive to the many women and men who put themselves forward in their parishes for the good of others. Your cynicism is baseless.
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3:01 Forward is an accurate description allright!!! Presumptuous is another.
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2.55: Liar at 1.24 doesn’t belong to any church, I’m sure! He peddles the lies emanating from Larne. Who’d want that type at 1.24 near anyone? He’s an utterly useless piece.
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Come off it, Pat! That bishop was indeed referring to same-gender sexual acts, albeit those motivated by love between gay couples.
The Bible is categorical on this: these acts, whatever their motivation and whatever their context, are morally wrong, gravely so, by their very nature.
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Our brother’s nephew has a boyfriend. I do not judge them.
The modern day feminist society is hyper-sexualised and driven by lust. The media fan the flames. People are being led into temptation.
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I don’t judge them either. (Or anyone else, for that matter.) How did you construe such judgment from my comment at 3.42?
I can judge an act morally wrong, say theft, without judging the perpetrator’s likelihood of salvation for committing such an act; only God can do this.
I believe that same-gender sexual relations, even loving ones,
are morally wrong, but this does not permit me to judge whether same-sex couples can be saved.
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Seamus my resolve to have a wank every time you say something stupid about sexuality is making me very tired indeed.
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7:01, if you consider same gender relations to be morally wrong, the LGBT community should refrain from throwing stones at you.
7:17, if you don’t identify your sin, there is no incentive to seek repentance. If there is no incentive to seek repentance, there is no need for forgiveness.
Anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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6:09 Bishop Tom Deenihan is a spiteful man and an utter disgrace to the Roman Catholic Church whilst he denies Dom Benedict Andersen his letter of good standing. This is actionable being an extremely serious matter.
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Seamus at 8:11 At this point I’m eating to keep my strength up for the next thing you say.
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7.01
It’s tautology to judge theft morally wrong. By definition, theft is immoral and/or illegal taking.
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8:44pm The Bishop in our area is visually impressive but operationally useless.
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10.59
No, not tautology. By definition, theft is an unlawful act. The moral nature of it is attributed.
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3.42
The Bible contains some norms on same-sex activity of people it believed were attracted to the other sex. It is silent on LGBTQ activity simple because its authors wrote what they did before the scientific concept of sexual orientation was discovered.
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10.55
You miss the point.
The biblical writers condemn the homosexual act for itself: it is always wrong. So, sexual orientation is, frankly, immaterial, since it does not affect the moral nature of the act one way or the other.
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Now is the perfect time to be discussing lgbt issues with the impending World Cup looming in Qatar. I think we should all boycott it.
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It is grossly inappropriate for this name to be used to post. Complaints have been made before. Lucy Letby is currently on trial for the alleged murder of 7 new-born – babies and the attempted murder of 10 others at the Countess of Chester Hospital.
This name needs to be deleted. It is simply not appropriate at this time.
Garngad Lad
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Garngad Lad, the appropriateness, sensitivity or even reality of comments don’t seem to be a concern for Pat when he is, allegedly, moderating them.
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I have taking a real shine to my local Priest and I don’t know what to do about it?
I am a married man with one child but he is just everything I want and more.
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Why do priests on this blog refer to fellow priest and bishops as ‘’SHE’’? Is this an inside joke i think it it is an insult to females.
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bilberrygoates @ 5.47pm: I agree.
Apparently, from what I have read here before, this practice is quite commonplace among clergy. My own take on it is that clergy who speak or write of fellow clergy as “SHE” or “HER” etc. are of a particular ilk among gay people. When I was once a seminarian, I couldn’t stand it, nor could I stand quite a number of fellow seminarians who spoke in much the same way; they probably couldn’t stand me, but no love lost there! I can hear them now shrieking in a faux feminine way, “Oooh, ‘ark at ‘er!!!” and “Who does she think she is?!!!” I imagine no self-respecting gay man would enjoy being in such company or countenance behaving in such a way, but it takes all sorts! It smacks of gross immaturity. I hope women mockingly laugh at such characters rather than be upset by them. Mockery is all they are good for.
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Get her at 7:08.
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7:08 How did you manage not to notice what the clergy were like before applying for seminary? 😂
As soon as I hit puberty myself I knew the celibacy thing was a con.
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One sentence from your comment @ 7.08: :”It smacks of gross immaturity “.
There’s no better way to express It!
MMM
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Pat in today’s Irish Times, patsey McGarry has written a power piece about the form Dominican priest and child abuser Vincent Mercer. One time headmaster of Newbridge college.
Vincent Mercer still lives comfortably from the Dominican purse.
Former living provincials who tool no action with with Mercer include:
Tom Jordan Black Abbey Kilkenny
Larry collins st Dominics Tallaght
Pat Lucey St Angeus Tallaght.
Those three knew about him for decades.
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While Mercer and his protectors are still breathing, there needs to be an inquiry into the child sex abuse in newbridge college. I urge people to petition their local representatives.
Fr Brian Mckevitt op was told by students about Mercer’s abuse.
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A man who had attended Newbridge College during the 1970s described what went in there as a “reign of terror” in the Irish Times newspaper.
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To seek to legitimise homosexual genital activity by describing it as ‘love making’ is nonsense. To use the defecatory canal for masturbation is a vile practice and demeans the dignity of the human body. This is the case whether engaed in by homosexual or heterosexual couples.
Homosexuality is an aberration and no amount of pink propoganda will ever change that fact. Let’s call a spade a spade.
Human sexuality was given for the propogation of the human race – attempting to turn it in to a recreation orgy sport is disgusting.
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Your comment reeks of ignorance and homophobia.
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Bishop Pat I’ll bet you anything you like Hector can’t bring himself to clean his own.
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6.51
Hear hear!
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One in four straight women have anal sex a few times a month, Hector.
https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/07/one-four-straight-women-anal-sex-times-month-7139539/
Once again, experts in humanity, my, er, arse.
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This statistical masterpiece has been accepted by a publication called – er – “Metro”.
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Higher Maths, I chose a popular publication for the hard of thinking like yourself. If you ask someone to show you how to look on Google Scholar you’ll find even higher percentages reported, up into the forties.
This is where forbidding contraception gets you…
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5.47: Its only a tiny, tiny fraction of priest commenters who effeminise men’s names, the catty bitchfesters. Of course the chief culprit is Pat himself who delights in referring to all clerics in feminine terms…etc…Their doing so is testament to their immaturity, psychologically and otherwise. It’ll be a good day when this blog has zero tolerance for such stupid nonsense and bullying behaviour. Those who continually effeminise are probably closed queens and trannies!! They disgust me.
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6:20 You haven’t been behind the closed doors of many presbyteries, or more likely, are just lying.
Didn’t you know EVERY priest gets a female name in seminary?
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7.06: I didn’t get a female name in seminary…nor did we engage in this crap in my time. You obviously are of the queen generation..!!😁😂🤣😃😂😁..Grow up. .
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7:26 All you’ve told the blog is that you weren’t popular enough to be told yours, and we can quite see why, dear.
(What idiot would make out there was a seminary generation in living memory that wasn’t queeny…. 🫣)
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6:20 the clergy really show themselves up on this blog and elsewhere.
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8:38 And they give so much away of how they think, that’s what fascinates me. No wonder they’ve not been out of the news for years with no sign of it stopping.
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RIP to Vicky Phelan. She epitomised bravery and load of courage, a fighter, battler and formidable woman. I felt sad when she passed away which I didn’t expect it.
Medical doctors who dealt with her, wrote her off in 2018 and said to her, she’s only 6 months to live. But she fought it all the way to 2022.
A formidable fighter.
Her friend Lynne Bennett passed away 2 weeks ago.
Any Priests out there, could you pray for her in your masses and thank you. Its this particular month for souls as well.
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Pat, are you aware of Robert Nugent’s arranged Adoration Gathering, Mass, Rosary erc…for men in Derry city this Sat. 19th November. His you tube video has given all information. It looks as if he is expecting a large crowd. Might you be there?
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No.
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7.26: Have a look at his recent You Tube…
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I applaud this Bishop for being brave enough to stand up and be heard. The Germans are very ahead of the time when it comes to this. We need more like him.
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You are just not happy that you were over looked for the Bishops position. Sure you have your MBE what more do you want?
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Lock up your dying relatives……..
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Daisy Chain NI
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Apologies in advance, but I then do the gays want to change the norm and the world? Why don’t you just adopt to our way of life and start up your own lgbtqixyz church. Marry animals and each other and be happy?
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I am in a relationship with a man and we do not practice penetration. We love each other and we can express that in more ways that one. Cooking for each other – food is love.
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@ 8:59pm
Too much information Nando but yar right about food, away and get a wan and wan.
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Pat, I am pregnant! Thank you for all your prayers.
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People are hurting it someone announced yesterday that fed a particular person assuming it was me …despite our issues…ske semt me an email ,I would never hurt that girl under those pretended Jesus Christ ,we dorm get that low ,sack of shot….shit stirring much pat, it’s not me but I will acknowledge including my own and everyone else story along the way briefly , along the way who are not genuine ,nobody said any one washed up or genuine my story and yours and others vendettas will be given a one liner and I will mention my faults warts and all … my faults ,blaming me for that girls abortion and responding …. shit stirring . I never did your dirty prick …
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Can’t wait to tell my story , including the characters I met along the way nobody is disputing except ye,lads are well educated they will write my story …
It’s coming ,I have acknowledge my problems ,,…ye haven’t ,all the best and take care lads c
Prepare yourselves!
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If you tell this story I hope it’s more legible than this comment.
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And if an ESB worker abuses who should compensate ?
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What a remarkably stupid comment.
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The Department of Education
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The underlying premise of progressive Catholics is that the world is correct & that the Church is behind the times. The “work” of the Church is to catch up to the enlightened world. With this view, there’s really nothing the Church has to offer, so there’s no point in conversion.
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