

Salomão Barbosa Ferraz (18 February 1880 – 11 May 1969) was a Brazilian Roman Catholic priest and Bishop whose career took him through membership of several Christian denominations from the Presbyterian Church to the Roman Catholic Church.
Biography
Ferraz was born in Jaú, Brazil on February 18, 1880. Originally a Presbyterian Minister, Barbosa Ferraz was ordained an Anglican Priest in 1917. He founded an ecumenical society, the “Order of Saint Andrew”, in 1928, and was instrumental in organising a ‘Free Catholic Congress’ in 1936. At the close of this event he established a “Free Catholic Church” and was elected as the church’s first Bishop. The Second World War halted his plans to be consecrated Bishop by European Old Catholics, but Salomão Barbosa Ferraz was eventually consecrated Bishop by Carlos Duarte Costa following this Bishop’s excommunication by the Vatican in 1945. Barbosa Ferraz was also a member of Freemasonry
Salomão Barbosa Ferraz in turn consecrated Manoel Ceia Laranjeira for the Free Catholic Church of Brazil in 1951, but sought reception into the Roman Catholic Church, which he achieved under Pope John XXIII, leaving Manoel Ceia Laranjeira at the head of the Free Catholic Church, then renamed the Independent Catholic Apostolic Church in Brazil.
In 1959, Ferraz was received into the Roman Catholic Church. His reception met with some resistance and confusion in Rome, where it had been assumed that he was widowed or chaste. He was eventually named Titular Bishop of Eleutherna in 1963 and took part in the Second Vatican Council. Bishop Ferraz died in 1969, leaving a wife and seven children.
Ferraz was a rare example of a legally accepted married bishop in the modern Roman Catholic history.
PAT SAYS
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Here was a Vatican II bishop who was both a husband and the father of seven children.
He may not have been the only one.
I’m sure there have been many secret ordinations and consecrations down the ages.
THE DAVIDEK ORDINATIONS

In the 40s and 50s, in Czechoslovakia married men were ordained bishops and women ordained priests to keep them hidden from the communist regime who had placed the Ordinary bishops and priests in prison.
Interest in Davídek greatly increased when it was disclosed after his death that, by the account of Ludmila Javorová and others, he had administered the sacrament of holy orders to Javorová and about four other women. Bishop Blaha declared any such ordinations would have been invalid. Pope John Paul II, in his 1994 apostolic letter Ordinatio sacerdotalis, wrote that “In order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance … I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.”
Other priestly ordinations, even of men, during the period of persecution were possibly invalid, illicit, or irregular, according to church teaching.
The irregular situation of priests in the Czech Republic in active ministry, but the validity of whose ordination was in doubt, was largely resolved by 2000 through discussions with the Vatican. In February 2000, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a declaration on the subject, announcing (a) that with regard to celibate priests, a great part (some 50 in all) had accepted the decision of the Pope that they should be conditionally re-ordained, and (b) that a further 22 priests who were married should also be conditionally re-ordained and transferred to the Byzantine-Slav rite as members, for all purposes, of the exarchate of the Czech Republic. There remained the status of some of the bishops and priests secretly ordained who had not accepted the norms (for conditional re-ordination) approved by the Pope, specifically because they were convinced they had already been validly ordained. While the Vatican confirmed that “conditional re-ordination” did not exclude the possibility that the men had previously been validly ordained, it held to the view that the doubts over validity were genuine:
183 replies on “THE MARRIED CATHOLIC BISHOP WHO ATTENDED VATICAN II.”
I bet this one will set the cathbots off raving about polyester.
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@ 1:8am!!!
What makes you think that? Is it because it will set you lot off and start you raving about lace? You’re so predictable🙄
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Bingo. Albeit there are a lot of troll comments today but then only a cathbot would troll this blog. 🧌
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Penny’s finest lol ….
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1.08
The only raver about polyester is Bela and it’s evident from his vulgar language to commenters here and to Pope Francis that Bela is not of God.
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@ 12:50PM
Patdy there’s oul Nettie on trying to to get you to silence me stupid cow doesn’t realize that you and I are oul pals as well as foes and enjoy the banter.Typical of those foul sanctimonious numpty’s devoid of humour, luv ya Patsy till our next fall out.🤣🤣🤣😉
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5.04
I am the commenter at 12.50 and I am an Irish person living in Ireland. Bela and his Nettie, i.e. Jim S. have one thing in common: both are distinguishable by their low levels of literacy. Of the two Jim S. is the more harmless. He has a weakness for prelates, especially nuncios. There’s no badness in him. Bela, on the other hand makes vile, vituperative and viscious comments about the Holy Father Francis and commenters.
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I think Vatican II shook up the Church Pat. It has never been fully implemented of course. I am reduced to overseeing a production line of a favourite soft drink can. My colleagues, mostly DUP supporters are jokingly calling that awful sugar laden Shoeler the DUP’ equivalent of wine. Their own words!!, It’s on offer and pure sugar.
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@ 10:30am
Well since you are trolling the blog yourself, but only think your opinion is correct. The classic sign of a Buckbot.😏
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I love it when the cathbots reveal they can’t imagine living without someone else telling them what to think.
Meanwhile out here in the real world people don’t feel the need to agree slavishly with others but can agree to disagree.
Sit down, ‘father’, that idea will give you one of your turns.
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Slot of sad bastards on this making up accusations and assumptions and ye are sad.
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A few Orthodox jurisdictions now have Married Bishops , and others are at the start of looking at this question .In regard to the Catholic Church or even the Orthodox Church, who in the end is the real minister of Ordination ? If we accept the Divine Grace i.e God is through the Bishop , the correct ritual is used , and the intention is clear ,and the candidate is ordained without force , and God will correct anything that is lacking than all such ordinations have validity to them , and are of equal value , and importance to any other ordination .
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QE2 is dead so it is time to move on to pastures new even though she had a wonderful relationships with the Pope Francis
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@10:53am
Oh! please, there is no evidence of that, don’t besmirch the memory of that wonderful Lady.
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11.58
No need to add your name to your comment. It’s obvious who you are. The interesting question is why you have stopped using your name.
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2.42
Can you kindly name an Orthodox jurisdiction that has a married bishop!
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The Polish Orthodox Church.
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@12:55pm
Well we don’t need to ask what your name is , it’s just that you post under so many, we wouldn’t know which one to use. Better to stick to oul gossip that covers them all.
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Hey, Conry was a good as married to several women, flaunted them around the place, took them on holidays. Nichols takes his nun with him wherever he goes, and you can bet they will settle in to retirement digs together when the time comes. Lots of bishops have ‘special’ people around them in their households, either male or female, ordained, religious or lay. Longley has had his Dominic with him for years. I bet that’s a bundle of fun. ! A few bishops have a penchant for Brazilians and other exotic types !
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And then we have the abbot of Farnborough with his penchant for dark haired Eastern Europeans. Although I’ve heard his favourite changes periodically so he plays them off against each other as well as getting a new favourite.
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@ 11.18
How can you worship the Queen and Leferbvre is amazing.
Then you are posted missing from renfrew street even although they now have two Masses on a Sunday.
I am honest and nothing to do with the RCC aka as the rip off organisation.
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My favorite thing about Lefebvre is the name translates Smith.
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@ 12:04PM
Nettie you really are amazing, who do you think you are? Miss Marple. I have never worshiped Her Late Majesty or indeed The Late Great Archbishop Leferbvre. In case you don’t know worship is due to God alone! Renfrew Street is not the only place where the true Mass is celebrated. So do wan.
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What about the priest in Tyrone that has got a lady pregnant and is now paying hush money – presumably paid for by his congregation
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& the Redemptorist that is a secret Daddy, fathered a child before service and only found out while in ministry
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9:48 The REDS are a whole subject within themselves.
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I’ve heard of Father’s ducking their responsibilities, including the thousands of errant Irish Fathers who used, and, abused the unfortunate women, good enough only to sow their wild seed, and rape, who ended up Mother and baby homes in Ireland, but, joining the priesthood to avoid responsibility is the cleverest ploy yet.
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9.48
An Irish Dominican fathered a child before joining up and makes no bones about it – and rightly so.
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Who is he? Name and shame him or send Pat an email
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Name and shame him? Lovely.
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9:16 it’s hardly hush money if you bleating about it on this blog, ya gossipy aul sheep! Is Mass over already!!
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11:27 fast mass today, fathers turn to take the child out for the day.
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@ 4:55ppm
Still talking gibberish,, did you get that from Google your usual source.
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Do you believe anal sex is a sin?
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Of course it is a sin, you can not get pregnant through this horrid act
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You can’t get pregnant through kissing either, babe.
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You can’t get pregnant after a hysterecyomy. Is that a sin? Clearly not. So you’ll have to think out your moral questions again. This time pray for enlightenment.
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Pat, did you ever want children? Do you think clergy should be allowed to get married and have children also?
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As the oldest I spent my early life helping to raise the younger ones. I never wanted my own children.
Celibacy should be optional
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It already is optional – I could name you at least 5 colleagues who are sexually active/in relationships with man and woman alike
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Even Margaret Thatcher felt pressure to have children
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Your my living a life of celibacy , our oldest had to cook and feed for us and she is a great maternal mother , I feel sorry for your siblings with you to help out , being gay has nothing to do it your just a non maternal self absorbed prick ,your siblings sound lucky … My sister half raised and she raised twins who have never been in trouble and excelling in college..
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Having children is over rated. As a woman in my 50’s I feel very judged for choosing not to have any, the emphasis on women is atrocious. I am often asked, “awww do you regret not having any children?”, no I bloody don’t, do you people regret having children?
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They are jealous because they have ruined their own lives by having children and want to put that misery on to you, I support you Carole
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Jesus Christ ,something wrong with people tonight!
Since when is having kids a curse!
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All theses priests telling us to have as much kids as possible to have a United ireland and yet mother abortion (Michelle O’Neill) only has one
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I’think you will find she has two.
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Who is the Priest that started up a knitting club in the 70’s?
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RIP Fr Des Wilson, cut from the same fabric as our Bishop Buckley and truly one of the good uns
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Yes- but the bold Des kept one foot inside to make sure he was looked after financially. Money where his mouth was? Dont think so. Bishop Buck has more integrity
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In fairness to Fr Des RIP.
I was always humbled by his daily life in which he had very little privacy and comfort.
Life in the middle of Ballymurphy was a lot easy than my life in Larne.
I lived more like Des when I was in Divis 1978 – 1983
But of course, horses for courses.
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How you ever survived in Divis is extraordinary Pat, them lot were like animals back in the day
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I loved every minute of it. A lot of wonderful people there.
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Fr Des had such a temper though, and was keen on the whisky, soft centred nature but when he drank he would have taken on Goliath
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I never saw Des drinking alcohol.
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10:02 it wasn’t a knitting club, it was a Bridge club.
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Robert Nugent is on a one man mission to rid the world of masturbation. In a cost of living crisis we all need a bit of fun Robert so wind your neck in.
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@ 10:25am
That’s your opinion, others may differ.
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Robert Nugent loves Mexico so much
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He looks like a Jehovah witness
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10.09
A person with a mission to keep linking a sad individual with an erotic activity.
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Do you remember the magnician priest Fr Horan. A lovely man long since gone to a heavenly world. You can see his shows on you tube with cathal o shannon
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Have you ever been to Czech Republic or Slovakia? Czech is lovely but Slovakia is lacking
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Eastern Europeans are always so angry but Prague is gorgeous
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Alright Putin calm down, I actually think the Italians are the grumpiest
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Lock up your wives, Ciaran Dallat is in heat!
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A leopard never changes it spots
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While that may be true ,someone is commenting and replicating and since I know now you are. It won’t be here or anon…
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Let us pray that his Loughinisland ladies are on high alert.
The men certainly are: watching and waiting!
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I hope you are all wearing your Red Poppies today ?
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Fuck off my brother Joined the British army along with another Irish friend they were the only two Irish in the whole unit , they were dedicated and my brother ,he’s wife and daughter were chosen to have lunch with the queen . The British unit bullied the two Irish into submission including doctors Certs. Ye should be ashamed . He had loyalty and look what happened .
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As a republican of Ireland , i will never forgive my brother for joining the British army although we were happy with he’s decision and happy for him ,He was treated so poorly by the British while he was there18 to 20 ur olds …that left him bullied and that other Irish gentleman was traumatised and both needed councilling afterwards, don’t u ducking dare advertise your poppies ,my brother adored and bunch of shit bullied so bad they ores out early , shame on you and fuck off with your poppies … And he to be there …stop parading your shit , -and your poopies I will never forgive for hat they did to the Irish lads that chose ye … Shocking !
Disgusting pricks !
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My friends son has declared he wants to become a Priest, and she is all proud and chuffed, personally I would be appalled and abandon mine
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Why are gay men attracted to priesthood so much?
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It’s a gay club for sexually deviant men
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Because they are scared of sex and know no other way to repress their sexuality than to dress up as women and preach to innocent and vulnerable segments of their community.
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Shauna there are some families with multiple Priests in them – shocking eh
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Yeah crime families do tend all to get involved. They can’t live honestly.
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When all else fails they teach …
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10:42 make yourself useful & do your civic duty to save this young mans future.
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BP will you be scaling down Christmas this year?
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I know you are an avid wine drinker our Pat and I would recommend Lady Ursula’s home made Gooseberry unless you have already tasted it. Would blow the head off you. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday and God bless.
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10:46 a wee drop of milk thistle might do wonders for yar liver Eamon.
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Eugene O’Hagan reads this blog daily and is tasked with feeding any important information to his holiness and you always have them by the balls
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I think he reads it for entertainment purposes, rather than scouring it for information
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11:47 Scour face is the exact description for the Bishop when Buckley’s blog is discussed. It’s his pet hate.
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Pat, two men were homophobic-ally attacked in my home town of Lurgan last night and violence like this is on the increase
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The RCC is corrupt and evil to its core and needs to sashay away
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Old news sweetheart, move on
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Donal McKeown will have alot to answer for in the new year and the fact he had the audacity to accept the position of Bishop will be under intense scrutiny
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It’d be rude to refuse.
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@ 11.24
It is not rude in 2022 to refuse some Clergy refuse a diocese because they feel that cannot do it so in some cases the Papal Nucio talks them into it not to refuse the Holy father but some dioceses are refused in some case to the third name.
Some Bishop who are unfit and unhealthy take it for the glory and that is the wrong reason.
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Leave poor Donal alone, lovely man with a great sense of humour
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11:48 wasn’t referring to Donal
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When my mum was a housekeeper she caught a priest and nun in bed together and when she got dementia she would be telling everyone this and they all thought my mum was nuts and making it up but she was not
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11:14 wasn’t she lucky that’s all she caught.
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I think you all need to reflect today about what our service personnel did/continue to do for us. It’s a sad and poignant day without Her Majesty’s presence. It’s important to remember.
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@11.16am For what in the end? What was it all for? Was it worth it?
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An endless question @ 12:43, and a difficult one.
In the abstract war is sometimes thought of as a contest ,,,,of equals, or a struggle for rights etc etc. In essence it is invariably rapine and fomented to enhance male power, prestige, possessions, or all three.
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I am at my wits end, I need to have an abortion and I will have to travel to England for it, how does that same fair at all?
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Y’all do nothing but bitch about the British and Ireland but you’re all over here.
Make this make sense.
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11.17: What a disgrace you are Shannon to minimise, poke fun at and speak so glibly about the killing of an unborn child. It’s your doctor/psychotherapist you need, not an abortion. Shame on you. Shame.
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I paid over a thousand euros nearly 18 yrs ago for flights to uk for two me and my sister and I hadn’t a pot to piss in but then again I didn’t have a choice and I had no parents and I was forced by my siblings to go with an ultimatum of sleeping on the street if I chose to keep it . I didn’t have a choice . They didn’t want the responsibility of helping me .
Your full of shit and stop lying. Not something to joke or shit stir About. Asshole. You sound you would make a great parent.
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Reply to;Spiritan Education Trustsays:
Nov 13, 2022 at 11:23 am
Those schools should be scrutinised for the sexual abuser Spititan priests.
Not just in Ireland, but more importantly in the African countries, (where I would lay my life on it,) many of the Roman Catholic sexually perverted priest were “banished” to to sexually molest the most vulnerable children with impunity.
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12:56 Ireland always exported its problems – abusive clergy, pregnant rape victims of priests and their well heeled friends.
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Have you heard anything from Bill Mulvihill? I miss his output on here
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No.
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@ 11:28pm
Are you for real, don’t wish that on poor Patsy. Remember how he was treated after being good to that degenerate. Proof indeed that no good deed goes unpunished.
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11.28 Hopefully Bill is experiencing healing and peace of mind and a welcome respite from being addressed in such a nasty and unchristian manner by serving Irish clerics posting anonymously on this blog and stalking and trolling private citizens here and elsewhere.
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@ 11.40
It is not anonymous Irish clerics it is HMS Glasgow aka the LMB as Irish clerics will be praying for healing for Bill who is in a dark place and thankfully does not see the caca on here towards him.
The Beatitues wouldstick in some peoples throats who profess to be Catholic.
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12:09 Irish clerics are far too busy posting stupid comments on here and don’t pray anyway. They’ll be chuffed Bill’s been binned though, he let out far too many truths.
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Pat mate you must be bored today
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Pat does not have time to be bored, the RCC and it’s personnel are that corrupt and will always keep him on his toes
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@ 12:09pm
The Beatitudes would certinly stick in your throat as you are the hypocrite of all hypocrites.😏
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Prayers for Paul Daly deceased victim of clerical abuse named in reports where he made allegations prior to his death.
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RIP to the VIP – a sad tale
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Mark spoke frankly to Miriam O’Callaghan during RTE Programme aired this week.
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No offence to Shauna but I would rather my children become Priests or a nun than a homosexual. My brother is a gay monk and the shame he brought on our family in the early 90’s at the height of the Aids crisis and troubles.
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He didn’t bring shame by being gay. A backwards society delivered shame by being backwards. Oppressing sexuality of any orientation is where problems begin.
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11.39
He didn’t ask to be born. He didn’t ask to be born gay.
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11.39
Jack, it’s nature’s way of dealing with overpopulation. It’s called evolution.
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Pat are you doing Mo-vember? Fr Raymond McCullagh is and so far has raised £3,700 which is just great.
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EMERGENCY – hint is in the name, stop calling this phone for ordinary queries. Some parishioners are utter plebs and a stain on my mental health.
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11:49 that’s terrible altogether Father. What kind of emergencies do they be ringing you about? Is an ambulance or a doctor or even the police not good enough for them?
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2:50pm. No point in calling the fire brigade, they still recovering after Halloween in Ennis.
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7 children, gosh that is loads. Gone are the days of big families like that. Thankfully times have changed with modern medicine and ideology. We should cherish them none the less.
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Lucy you are spot on, we all need to look after the next generation, and also preserve this amazing planet we have.
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Reply tp;Anonymoussays:
Nov 13, 2022 at 10:30 am
You are of course including yourself too, as a troll. Yes?
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No, Queenie, I only make sensible comments and don’t have a ridiculous user name. 🧌
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Aah! Pat. I though it was you, I am so disappointed.
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A fascinating read Bishop Buckley. I do look forward to your blog and it’s new content each night. Keep up the good work.
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Tax rises and public spending cuts, and yet them damn nurses will be going on strike over pay, we all need more money but not all of us can go on strike. Pat do you agree with these strikes?
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I definitely think priests and bishops should go on strike.
Oh no they can’t after half their congregation didn’t come back after lockdown. 😂
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Nov 13, 2022 at 12:27 pm
Damn nurses my arse! This is the first time EVER, U.K nurses have threatened strike.
Wait until you need hospital care with not enough staff to look after you, I can assure you it will be a stressful experience.
They should have gone on strike years ago, generations of nurses working for a pittance, not properly protected, spinal injuries, and exposed to all kinds of dangerous chemicals, at one time, having to even clean up ca-ca with their bare hands.
Working through the initial Covid infection, it must have been horrendous probably the straw that broke the camel’s back, this generation of nurses have a far higher expectation, what a disappointment it must be.
I say good for them, I support this strike 100%, there is never a right time for hospital staff to go on strike, now is as good as any.
Similar to the garbage men ‘s strike, “You never miss the water ’til the well runs dry”
Apart from the fact, there is nothing to entice candidates into nursing, poor pay, miserable working conditions, long hours (12 hour shifts) include 12 hour nightshifts, with never enough staff, often going without breaks, with a completely useless governing body.
What smart girl with a degree would want those condition? Fewer and, fewer, understandably.
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Well said QP. There are many nurses in my extended family, including both parents, now deceased. Speaking recently about their working experiences with some whom I know to be caring, responsible and dedicated, I can only agree.
Several knowledgeable analysts point to long term political manoeuvres towards privatisation as the driver in allowing the UK NHS to deteriorate .
MMM
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How long was mass today in the Oratory? 14 minutes and 54 seconds and that includes walking in and out of the church. Then sped of in his car and didn’t even greet us on the way out.
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We can see why…
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Many priests have been named here for affairs with parishioners. Shamed they (mostly) left.
Imagine instead a blog celebrating those same priests marrying those same parishioners – simply because the rules of the church recognised that the vocation to marriage and calling to priesthood can actually coincide within people raised as RC as well as coinciding in converts to the RC faith.
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Unlike yesterdays blog on law suit pending by ex Vatican auditor & his deputy, you are receiving far more blogger comments today Bishop Pat. This confirms Cathbots are only silenced by references to finances, they well able to “front it out” on proven allegations of kiddy fiddling, shagging church staff & volunteers etc. Not a bother to them, years of experience in building and fostering networks to protect them.
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Actually it could also prove that the one or more clerics who troll Pat Buckley with stupid comments have time to do so today. Since some days are spectacularly bad with the atmosphere of a cottage, like today, I suspect they either have a day where they compete with each other to see what they can get him to publish or it might simply be one priest especially pissed off that he has appeared here.
Why do I say this? Because not one comment has been about the blog subject today. 😂 So the change in quantity of comments is caused by something else.
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Money provokes gazing at shoes, random tiles, and not so many words. Always an awkward topic.
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Greeting from Ghana I enjoy you
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Any readers from Mozambique?
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I’m from Ennis if that will do.
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I am from Uganda. I live in Ennis, our Foundation Ministry has branches in Ennis, Limerick, Galway, Kenya and Uganda.
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I am already feeling the pinch, I have no electric or gas from Friday and I’m having to use shopping centres for heat and charging my phone, how am I meant to manage the rest of this winter?
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Clare go round and sit in the Parochial house, test how Christian your parish priest is, and stay there for as long as you want.
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Don’t waste your time sitting in the parochial house, Clare, he’ll just go and spend the night with his boyfriend. Test how really charitable he is by sitting in his Special Big Chair at mass and start reading from the book of stories before he can.
Guarantee he’ll call the police 🚓🚨
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3.52: Such imbecilic childishness. Such inanity. Find a brain.
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I think Priests should offer up the vacant rooms in their presbytery’s and donate all their salary to charity sure what do they need money for?
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How does Tom Deenihan explain to married men of good standing that they cannot be ordained and yet he supports the Silverstream charade, and denies Dom Benedict his rightful letter of good standing?
How does Phonsie explain to married men of good standing that they cannot be ordained and yet he supported the wayward abbot?
Many of the nephews of the brethren are men of good standing. They have lady wives however. Such a pity that they are denied an opportunity to be clergymen of good standing also.
Pax.
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How is it that John Buckley sold ordination to widowers who would pay for their training, but told single men of similar age that they were too old because they could not pay for their training. Simony in the 21st century ?
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1:27 never mind vacant rooms, what about all the vacant priests houses some of them empty for years.
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Holy Trinity
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1.27: Crap, crap all the way. Why do you need cash? Are you practicing what you’re preaching? Bet not, hypocrite. Better finish my g&t!!!😂😁🤣😃😃🤣😉…
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The televised festival of Remembrance last night was sullied by the appearance of male hater bishop of London, Mullally who unsuprisingaly took over the whole religious spot compared to other military chaplains in previous years. She should hang her head in shame after the falsely accused Rev Griffin. At least the Bocelli Catholic Italian family made up for it in their awesome singing. Many Catholics died in the world wars too despite the hijacking of the poppy and remembrance events herei in N Ireland.
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One of the choristers from the Chapel Royal was wearing a Sikh turban ! Talk about inclusion. Lovely !
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Any fresh news on our MIAs?
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3:24 they lying low, being more discreet about who they getting fresh with. Leopards don’t change their spots.
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What evidence or substance is there to the idea that Nursie’s private sec (Dominic) is really his ‘special friend’ rather like Carmel is Elsie’s ‘special friend’
I can imagine the VG and powers that be keen to quash that particular rumour thus fuelling its veracity!!
Mind you Dominic’s been private sec for 13 years and has never been a PP – something not right – maybe Nursies tattered reputation post IICSA has made him step ever so slightly out of the closet.
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How were your two pups when you first got them? I rescued a dog on Friday and he’s turning out to be a right wee bastard. Has ate my new kitchen to pieces and will not stop crying all night, I don’t know if I can put up with this much longer Pat.
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Bishop Mullally is a most horrible person yo deal with. She gives female clergy a bad name. She didn’t get to that position in the Church of England by being a nice person. Control freak, ruthless and downright nasty.
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Ooohhh, somebody’s got it in for Dame Sarah Mullally ! Maybe some old ex-Anglican ? Anyhow, I have heard that she is not much liked and not much thought of. I think they realise that they made a mistake in their haste to get women in to some of the top jobs. They will just have to wait her out. She’s got a few years to go yet.
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@4.14pm A few years to go and wait it out you say! That could be said of another Dame but in Armagh. A wrong choice too and here we go again. The people and priests will have to endure such a bad mistake appointment. Mullally has more balls than Martin.
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Please don’t insult the Lord Bishop of London. She has claimed, in the past, that she only wears a black clerical shirt because she is on a par with Catholic bishops.
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@4.14pm Oh yes, ex-Anglican here but less of the old dear boy. I have crossed the Tiber but I can’t forget poor Fr Alan RIP. That ruthless bitch, +London, threw him to the lions. Watching her last night on national tv pretending to talk about religion made my skin crawl.
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Absolutely howling at the female hating suppressed gays and incels ranting about the bishop of London. 😂
Also the ones with a grudge against the archbishop of Birmingham. 😂
Pro tip: people won’t be so quick to think you’re gay if you have a go at being less bitchy. 🌈
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@4.38pm You don’t get it you idiot. It’s nothing to do with female clergy or hate. Some of the Vicars complaining in the diocese of London (You clearly haven’t a clue about it) are female. Go back to sleep and wake up when you can follow an intelligent conversation.
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LOL so screaming idiot at people on the internet isn’t hate?
This is the caring, friendly face of holy mother church, folks,
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You are the one screaming here bless you x
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@4.38pm. Archbishop of Birmingham??? I think you are on a totally different topic pal.
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@4.38pm The biggest laugh all day for me is you laughing at and claimng people are gay. Don’t you just love these head the ball goons.
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5:13 Yes they’re hilarious the way they go on about bishops. 😂
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It has only been brought to my attention that Fr R Sheehan is leaving ministry. I would like to wish him the best of luck in the future.
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Leaving misery you mean
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4.38pm
No grudge hear dearie – me gay dear, how v dare you: prelates with significant others seems entirely on topic dearie – Nursie and Dominic all v interesting – prelates do this don’t they: chauffeur, bodyguard, chef, nephew and private sec for 14 years – what is really going on there – is Dominic really so good at admin that Nursie has clung into him for 14 years?!!
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I don’t think Dominic does the cooking. They have a nun for that (Luke ?) and a professional cook. As to his other uses – bodyguard, nephew, bag carrier, driver, secretary etc – I’m not sure how good he is at any of them. It just sounds like they’ve settled in to a nice arrangement that suits them both and plan to carry on with it. One problem is that there are some young bucks out of Oscott and all full of themselves that would love the cache of being the A/b’s secretary. It was always seen as a mark of being chosen, as someone to keep an eye on, someone identified early as potential leadership material. They are not getting a shot at it, so there is some resentment. Walsall, Dudley, Stoke on Trent……or A/b’s secretary ,… what would you choose ? Perhaps Nursie is hoping that he will just be left alone for another seven or eight years, and Dominic can stay with him, and he’s probably hoping that he won’t have to move back to Westminster and take up residence at Ambrosden Avenue. Looks unlikely these days after his dim performance at IICSA. I’d say he really doesn’t want it. So, my view is to expect no change, and all the young boyos hoping for preferment should just get on with their jobs, even if they are waltzing around in lace and satin, using Latin that they don’t understand, and…..well, you get my drift ?
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@ 7:06pm
Indeed we get your drift you’d rather waltz in jeans and runners talking a lot of gibberish…….do, you get my drift?
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https://www.irishcentral.com/news/horrors-irish-priests-sexual-abuse-continue-uncovered
Horrors of Irish Priests’ Sexual Abuse Continue to be Uncovered
IrishCentral Staff.
Nov 13, 2022.
“The Jesuit congregation of Ireland has received 149 allegations of abuse against 43 Jesuit priests, while the Spiritan religious order has received more than 230 allegations of abuse. A spokeswoman for the congregation told the Irish Times that she expects further allegations to be made against Jesuit members in the coming months, especially after the introduction of a redress scheme in January 2022. The scheme was introduced following the disclosure of abuses by Fr. Joseph Marmion at Belvedere College in Dublin and applies to any adults who were abused by Fr. Marmion as boys at three different Jesuit colleges in Ireland.”
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https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2022/11/13/catholic-primate-speaks-of-crying-need-for-atonement-over-child-abuse/
Catholic Primate Speaks of ‘Crying Need for Atonement’ Over Child Abuse
Patsy McGarry
The Irish Times. Sun Nov 13 2022.
Mary McAleese accuses Church of ‘systemic protection of perpetrators rather than child victims’
“There is “a crying need for atonement, inner healing and hope in the aftermath of the abuse scandals”, Catholic Primate Eamon Martin has said.
He sometimes wondered, he said, “why it is that, when we were studying theology here [in Maynooth] in the 1980s, we didn’t anticipate what was about to happen in the Church – perhaps we should have; was it because, in our studying and reading of theology and philosophy, we didn’t engage enough in open discussion and dialogue, or really grapple with the big questions of the day for the Church and its mission?”
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I particularly love it when the unholy clergy trolls respond with their usual camp bitchiness… and more episcopal gossip and bishop bashing. 🥱
Interpret these last two words as you will. 😂
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Poor aud Mary clutching at straws again. What will she clutch next after she has exhausted the abuse scandal. She is a rough diamond and no longer feeling too relevant after her wee Canon Law stint in Rome. Bless her.
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