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NOEL TREANOR RACES BACK TO BRUSSELS.

NOEL’S LETTER TO D&C PRIESTS

PAT SAYS

This is the job Noel has wanted forever.

He is coming to it late as he turns 72 next month.

But hey! Better late than never.

I’m sure Noel popped a Dom Perignon when he got the news of his new appointment.

Followed by a Chateau Petrus over lunch

Noel should never have been a priest or bishop. He does not have a pastor’s heart.

He is a desk man.

He should have joined the Irish civil service in the department of Foreign Affairs.

He also has an autistic personality which disables his ability to communicate with other people at an ordinary level.

Noel is a very cold fish. I find coldness one of the worst faults in a priest.

Noel covered up for gay and straight misbehaving priests in D&C and was totally lacking in compassion for priests struggling with problems or ill health.

And he was very cold in his meetings with those priest’s victims.

Like the rest of his Irish colleagues Noel has simply presided over decline.

He does leave a very plush palace behind for his successor and a very highly organised set of diocesan offices.

He was and is good at admin.

But bishops, priests and deacons are not called to be admistrators.

They are called to be pastors.

One of the scandals of Roman Catholicism is the number of clerics doing desk jobs – when those jobs should be done by competent lay men women.

In his 14 years in Belfast I have never met Noel Treanor.

He has never done me any harm that I know of?

Noel’s life and career highlights the old expression:

“He went out to do good – and he did well”.

NOEL’S NEW HOUSE IN BRUSSELS

153 replies on “NOEL TREANOR RACES BACK TO BRUSSELS.”

The Secretariat of State took its time in making the appointment. His predecessor died in early December of last year in his 60’s.

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It sounds like needles duplication and therefore a sinecure, since the Holy See has already a nuncio in each country of the EU. Agreed the Fr McGuckian is the favourite to succeed him.

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Excellent summary of the situation, Pat. He was a cold fish when he was a CC in Enniskillen for a few months, which is the extent of his pastoral experience, though he used to spend a few weeks in Lough Derg on the staff but he always seemed to avoid talking to the pilgrims. In Enniskillen he was very detached and seemed bemused to be in a parish.
Joe Duffy had a bad habit of pushing forward “chosen ones”, however pastorally inept eg Joseph McGuinness, Ciaran Murphy and Seamus Quinn. and Noel was one of the early chosen ones. Meanwhile, Joe Duffy considered himself to be a man of letters (though a Maynooth MA was his highest achievement) and he was profoundly Europhile. Joe used to converse in good Irish and bad French with his only friend, Mgr Brendan Devlin of Maynooth. Together they conspired to get Noel his sinecure in Brussels. Joe will be delighted.

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At least there’s a lovely curate in Enniskillen now. Noel wasn’t a parish man but we’re very lucky to have wee Fr. Raymond with us. He likes to dress up but he’s committed to the parish. God love him.

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The permanent deacon in Enniskillen, a married man, likes dressing up, eg he wears a cope to do baptisms, which I’ve never seen a priest do. The permanent deacon in my parish loves wearing a dalmatic, but as every New Mass is a low Mass he has nothing to do.

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A thick Kerryman.
Ask them cute , selfish thickos in Dail Eireann with the highest tax free expenses, milking the system. 😡

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4:09 The West of Ireland Diocese are riddled with cute hoors. We don’t know the half of it, yet.

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I hadn’t realised that Noel was one of the vice presidents of COMECE, hence his constant trips to Brussels.
I hope he does away with having unpaid interns working in COMECE and the Nunciatures in Brussels. Unpaid labour is contrary to Catholic social teaching and it advantages the well off as only they can afford to live and work in Brussels for no pay. Is a nuncio unpaid?

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Bishop Treanor never unpacked mentally when he was in Belfast. His heart wasn’t in it and he always gave the impression of a man passing through.

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Son of C of I, Bishop of Clogher, the late Brian Hannon, Neil found the years that his Dad was addressed as Canon Hannon to be the most challenging!

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Martel suggests that the Vatican diplomatic service is a gay cartel – seems like that to me – all the church diplomats are blatantly homosexual and effete with that civil service frisson – you know too posh to wash!!

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The bulk of Vatican diplomats and those studying at the diplomatic school in Rome are gay. The problem is that in order to get on they have to sublimate and repress their orientation, and usually do so by going in the other direction and being nastily homophobic. Just look at those bishops who run the bishop’s conference in the uSA – Broglio for example, who is not shy of speaking homophonically, but is so clearly a big girl himself. He’s another product of the Vatican diplomatic service. It’s so frigging obvious. The more someone bangs on about homosexuality, the more it is clear that they are a friend of Dorothy, self-loathing and repressed, and probably quietly getting their end away anyway.

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Two illuminating extracts from 9:13’s comments.
First
‘and usually do so by going in the other direction and being nastily homophobic.’
Followed by
‘The more someone bangs on about homosexuality, the more it is clear that they are a friend of Dorothy,’
QED.

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1015 – clever, clever – not ! You know exactly what 9:13 meant – namely so many of that crowd are repressed homosexuals and use homophobic attitudes and statements to cover that fact.

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11:21 Sick and twisted thing to happen to anyone and in a public shopping centre of all places.

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Who provided the letter of good standing and references and police vetting for Fr McAleers current tenure in Belgium. Will Noel Treanor be communicating with him when he also arrives in Belgium? It’s seems most unreasonable that whistleblower Dom Benedict Andersen is denied his letter of good standing whilst other clergy including Fr Ryan McAleer and others are protected by the RCC members & hierarchy.

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It is noted that Fr Ryan McAleer has become quite the connoisseur when it comes to Belgian food and drink and certain social peculiarities.

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11:54,Ryan was always more than partial to the finer things in life. He fits like a glove.

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Fiddle, Fiddle Fiddle
Whilst Rome burns.
What a tangled web some weave when they set out to deceive.
Belgium today, Dublin tomorrow and so on and so on…….

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The Belgians are going to have their hands full with all these Irish clerics finding their way over there. Silverstream exile Mark Kirby, Fr Ryan McAleer @ University of Leuven & now Noel Treanor. There will be some night at the GAA Xmas party this year in that region.

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Noel could do the island of Ireland a major good deed and take more of his deviant troublemakers & their associates with him to Brussels. It appears to be the new playground for these overprivileged trouble makers.

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Noel Treanor has zero respect for or interest in communicating with ordinary people, he is well able to communicate in the influential circles that benefit him and his agenda.

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Good riddance. One less troublemaker but no doubt his close personal associates will be visiting him regularly in Brussels on all expenses paid trips courtesy of the sheep and their business associates. Treanor is a good business man. Belgium appears totally unaware of the gradually increasing “population” courtesy of Irish ecclesiastical circles. No doubt Treanor has close links with current hideout of Fr Ryan McAleer at University of Leuven. The local GAA club is very active, especially popular with students.

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Papal Nuncio my arse! Translated into plain English as “expert and approved cover up merchant signed, sealed and delivered by Fraudulent Frankie & Co”.
Parish dodgers who consider themselves far too superior for the down and durty of daily parish life but more than happy to pocket their share of the gullible sheep droppings.

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A shocking read, Bp Pat. A spokesman for the Archdiocese of St Andrews & Edinburgh said: “The archdiocese has a duty of care to its retired clergy…” By that, they mean aged parishioners, most of whom are only on the state pension, pay for it.

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This is an attack on His Grace Archbishop Cushley by ONE Parish out of 70 which is shocking but then that is the Scotsman Newspaper for you a Tory rag.
Paisley Clergy will be praying that Bishop John Keenan is transferred but Archbishop Cushley will survive this hatred.
Archbishop Cushley has transformed the Archdioceses from being bankrupt thanks to KOB

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What was the outcome of the case of this lady whom Noel Treanor refused to meet or assist?

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It remains to be seen if Noel Treanor’s successor will continue to take £1,000 per month from the soup kitchen to pay the wine bill at the Bishops Palace.

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(June 2016) Noel Kehoe, Bishop in waiting you said. Do you still think he will get this post? You and Kehoe have never seen eye to eye, was this headline just an attack on him?

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Yes, Noel Kehoe will make a fine bishop. I admire Noel. It’s inaccurate to say that we don’t see eye to eye. I haven’t seen Noel since the pandemic. Noel enjoys the finer things in life, travel, fine dining, good wine, cars, dogs and has a wide circle of friends. He is an excellent administrator, missionary, and has some vision.

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@10.02 you are probably right. Derek is not so much into the finer things in life. His ministry is on the football pitch. Here’s an interesting thought for a leadership team- Michael Cossack, Noel Kehoe and Derek Ryan.

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It is indeed an honour to both His Excellency and to the Diocese of Down and Connor that such important work has been required of him. As he says in his message to us, Europe is at a critical point requiring great skills from those who work in political and other areans of importance. Noel Treanor has such skills in abundance and they are (if I might make a play onwords) critical. So be it – a fine nuncio.

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8:49 it appears unwise to rely on any one country in this case, Belgium, as a dumping ground for several outstanding and unresolved issues in Irish church.

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The letter to priests is the usual formulaic claptrap – I’m not worthy, I’m doing this in obedience to the Pope, I look forward to being of continuing service etc. I could have written it for him. He will only be in post for a few years. He was born in 1950 so is coming up to 73 and will only serve two or three years. It’s evidently stopgap, and probably more designed to get him out of D&C so that they can put someone in who will sort the place – and especially the clergy – out !

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Treanor has been missing for years so D&C will hardly know he’s gone. Left behind is a diocese in dis array. A diocese which was relieved of 4 million to fund Treanors lavish palace and his decadent lifestyle. O’hagan will be gutted in case he now has to do some work. These two clowns represent everything that is wrong with the RCC. Cover up merchants with no back bone who have allowed the diocese to crumble under their tenure whilst allowing their priests to do whatever they want and live whichever way they choose as long as the coffers keep getting filled. Lisbreen has simply become mafia headquarters for the diocese. Christ is nowhere to be seen in this

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9:16 that might explain why so many mannish looking women fulfil many vital roles in the church. Well able to use themselves they are in line with the overall agenda of organised deception for benefit of RC interests.

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Pat, Bishop Treanor deserves some goid wishes from you. The readiness to judge, condemn, belittle and mock this man falls too easily from your lips. I think he’s ideal for the task given to him. Can you not ever find it in your heart to affirm any Bishop? Is it that, like Robert Nugent you are hearing voices from above tell you that you’re simply the best? The rest of us are chaff…

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Belfast woman, Haileigh Ashton Lamont, who works as an advocate for people who have suffered abuse spoke at this years Reclaim the Night rally. Her abuser is serving a 16 year sentence. Nuala Toman from Disability Action stated that disabled persons are twice as likely to experience exploitation, abuse and violence, often by multiple perpetrators. Nuala confirmed that this can take place in multiple settings including in residential care and at the hands of organised crime and she questions where are the mechanisms to end all this. This wrong doing can be perpetrated by “marginalisation and stigma”.

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Noel will get a pallium shortly. He is so vain that he thinks “Noel, noel, noel, noel, born is the King of Israel” was written about him.

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Dom Dick to Australia, Rory to Belgium, Glastonbury Dames to France, when it gets hot get out of your native country.

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My money is on Poison Dwarf. It’s the quieter ones you need to watch.

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10.09
Archbishop Eamon Martin wants to promote Bishop michael to Down and Connor as he is only an Assistant Bishop.
It is veryunusual to move a Diocesan Bishop side ways unless there is trouble in the Diocese that needs sorted so it is unlikely Bishop Alan would be transferred.
Most recent Irish appointments for Bishops has be late 50’s or early 60’s well Bishop Alan is 70 in February

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10.34
Jim S. is back. Literacy level and subject matter give him away. In this case it’s his claim to know what E. Martin thinks and feels about M. Router. At least, this time he refrained from advising readers to write to nuncios and Roman dicasteries.

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11:12 Good morning teacher! Isn’t it time you returned to the classroom to do some real work. It’s a nightmare trying to staff my school when young teachers cannot afford the rent in our school catchment area.

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11.22
@ 10.34 darling Bella you have it all very wrong as Jim S will never be back on this site as he is a company man through and through !!!!
However my darling Jim was serving Holy Mass at 10am this morning as he was doing a Saturday Night then this morning this weekend.
Jim’s clearance from the Authorities would surprise you even referances from MP’s and MSP’S to say the least.
You do not even know him and have never meet him.
PS there is No Nuncio’s in the Uk and Ireland as they have all been transferred 🙂

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100% is an exaggeration. 80% is more accurate overall, with 95% among the newly ordained.

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10:24 Don’t be so nosey, we are entitled to our privacy. This is not a 24/7 job any more you know. Get with it, old timer.

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The Fathers will love this kind of gossip today They love it. Get the last Mass over with and straight on to the bottle if not before.

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10:25 Fast mass, drop of altar wine as a digestif and off for a good bitch, moan & cackle over lunch. You are just jealous of us, such bitter begrudgers you are living in the past. Get over it.

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11:01 who is Fr McCanns solicitor? No doubt it is very difficult for alleged victim of this priest having this dragged out for 9 months. Is there no end to the weight of privilege the clergy and their types can access at will. It would have been far more considerate and cost effective for all concerned to bring this matter to conclusion months ago.

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11:01 of course the case is causing problems for Fr Aidan McCann. He is being self entitled showing zero regard for the victim. He has also brought the reputation of the shopping centre my relative depends on for employment into disrepute. He should be barred when the court case concludes.

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10:25 clergy have their durty work done by laity staff & volunteers. Leaves them with ample time for extra curricular activities and business deals etc.

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11:28 it’s the perfect marriage between clergy & their laity providing an outlet for power hungry troublemakers with grudges and agendas.

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11:28 what business deals are the Irish clergy doing in Europe/Brussels?

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11.28: You, idiot, keep making this same crappy comment. What an offensive slur on good parishioners. All the lay staff in our parish are comnendable in irtue and create a lovely, warm, welcoming community. Your type are divisive and have probably been removed from any involvement. We need goid, kind, trusting peoole, not bastardo and gripy types like you.

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I commented yesterday about how the cathbots try to identify commenters here with a view to causing trouble for them (cf the threatening phone calls Robert Nugent’s family got) and I see another of their frequent targets is mentioned today.
I’m also very very pleased to see a comment above (and a couple yesterday) written very much in my own style. That’ll get them confused.
Because the cathbots have never been outside their cult they think they know everyone who could ever possibly comment here, and their recklessness in trying to pin comments here on people they think they can identify is striking.
These are the men who want to guide your morals, remember.

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Pat, sorry to go off-piste, As I know nothing of the topic today, I couldn’t resist this one.
Jesus could have been transgender, claims Cambridge dean
The dean of Trinity College said such a view was ‘legitimate’ after a row over a sermon by a student that claimed Christ had a ‘trans body’
By Ewan Somerville 26 November 2022 • 6:13pm
Jean Malouel’s 1400 work Pietà was one of the pieces referred to CREDIT: Peter Horree / Alamy/Alamy
Jesus could have been transgender, according to a University of Cambridge dean.
Dr Michael Banner, the dean of Trinity College, said such a view was “legitimate” after a row over a sermon by…
Dr Michael Banner | Faculty of Divinity – University of Cambridgehttps://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk › directory ›
Michael Banner has been Dean, Fellow and Director of Studies in Theology and Religious Studies at Trinity College since 2006
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Jesus could have been transgender, claims Cambridge deanhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk › news › 2022/11/26 › jes…

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Nice man. Most boring lecturer imaginable. Himself and + Michael Neary killed off scripture for generations of priests hence biblical illiteracy of most irish clergy

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And Killarney John didn’t help.

I served one of Martin Drennan’s morning private Masses in the college chapel. Although I, as the server comprised the entire congregation and it was a weekday, he kindly did a homily for me. All I can remember from the homily is him saying that we need to circumcise the heart.

Neary was dull. I remember him teaching Greek in First Divinity. He used to walk up and down and pounce on someone to translate, and he would just say “supply”, which was your instruction to speak.

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Any time I popped into Joe’s Oratory in Maynooth, Martin Drennan was sitting there, praying quietly. He must have spent a long time in there every day.

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I would say Ryan McAleer will be hoping Noel Treanor gives him a job in Brussels. His Dungannon days are surely over.

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Why would the Vatican curia sent BLING Bishop Treanor who is described as ‘cold fish’ to Brussels?
That doesn’t make sense to me. That would need a lot of experience in diplomatic language and a huge capacity for wines.
I was in Brussels once years ago visiting EU office for the Deaf which was close to eu main office. I was astonished at length and range of wine tables at various EU places.
BLING Bishop won’t be spending much in new home lavishly like he did in his diocese.
I saw that he’s to become an Archbishop – an ambassador role I think.

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Deaf guy
His Grace Archbishop Elect noel is a Fist Class Administrator and excellent in organisational issues but he will miss the Parish visits and Confirmations.
It is a Five year appointment at end of January and his last fling will be in Ossory at the Episcopal Ordination of their New Bishop elect Niall Coll

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Bishop Pat, who next for Down and Connor?
Michael Router? Does Joe McGuinness have a chance? Abbot Mark-Ephrem Nolan? Someone from within D+C?
We would appreciate your insights +

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Tim Bartlett, surely. Desk man who’s done a short stint in a small parish, therefore an ideal candidate.

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Anon at 4.46pm

Massive wines at all range and depth at huge tables. White/red, massive outlay of expenses approved etc

Normally I don’t drink. But I did drink wines there for first time. Tastes were mightly cultured and sophisticated which opened my naive eyes.

I started to drink again after many years of abstinence during lockdowns mostly red wines. Now I’m a fan of red wine now and again but not much as I used to be before years of abstinence. 12 hours beer binging when I was in Thailand, was the norm until I was diagnosed ptsd. Then I stopped completely after that and started it slowly during lockdowns. Much less now.

Brussels wine tables which I had seen was a place for to be alcoholics or already alcoholics.

No wonder, some MEPS may have alcoholic problems. Juncker was pure wine aficionado as I heard. I only met one MEP there was marie Geoghan quinn.

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The homosexualization of the clergy and why it attracts so many child sexual predators is a sociological issue that has to be addressed.

One suspects that part of the frisson of the brotherhood are these two verities and rather like the fall of the Roman Civilisation are key contributioning factors to the fall of Roman Catholic civilisation.
The Vatican Diplomatic Corp is a notoriously gay institution – show me a Vatican or church diplomat and I’ll show you a gay man!!

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Two theories – ire placement will be a priest from Dublin metropolitan or Alan SJ returns to Belfast. Also two auxiliaries being speculated for Dublin various names mentioned!

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If Eugene or Martin O’Hagan get the nod, surely the one appointed would stop doing their concerts? It would be a bit unedifying having a bishop doing the strolling minstrel act. They could co-opt Darcy or Sugar Ray to fill the resulting vacancy in “The Priests”.

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Pat, I wonder if you’ve been keeping up with Fr Wilson’s progress? It seems since you lost the battle to block his ordination, no one is talking about the alleged issues that were being used against him.

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If the many anonymous commenters who express their annoyance, judgments and anger at the Church in thus blog and were genuinely concerned about “renewal”, why don’t they print their names, instead of hiding behind their laptops? Why don’t they join Pat to organise a nationwide Oratory? Or organise gatherings as Robert Nugent is doing in efforts to teenage people with their faith and sense of Christian community? Or these critics might join their local church community and work with the many worthwhile pastoral initiatives in parishes? Just a thought….

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Fr Martin or whatever your name is – you are truly a shameless Blood hungry bullying thug, you are well aware that This blog is the 2022 version of the Mass Rock created by Bishop Pat Buckley in response to the needs of victims & survivors of church related abuse and wrong doing, their families and witness whistleblowers etc. Well Done on confirming exactly why so many have left the RCC.

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8.50: Martin is right. Many bullying commenters spew out hate comments and criricise all and everythung but I’ll bet you most of them do nothing to effect meaningful change. This blog I understand is for all kinds of commentary. Can you not discern this truth yourself?

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Gareth, (the bore) Byrne looks a certainty for a Dublin auxiliary – another ‘safe pair of hands’ who could bore the knickers off a nun, after that it’s anyones guess. There are a few with tongues hangin out : McDermott – keeper of the delapidated and almost defunct pro-cathedral, Roche, the squire of Wicklaw, O’Carroll Lord of Dublin 4, but with Farrell you’d never know who he could pull out of the hat. It won’t be any ravin liberal, that’s for sure. Sitting archbishops like lackeys not leaders.

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7.17: As I suspected, Mr. Martina. You’re simply a laptop critic or as St. Paul says, a booming gong…all spoof and talk but no action of any worth. A moral coward. At least I can claim to be on the ground in the parish, working with and for the well being and good of parishioners. You, on the other hand, well…coward.

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Martin, are you the Pope or one of the Cardinals that consistently refuse to engage with specific correspondents?

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&6:51 comment- you’re well informed. However Mc Dermott who has run the Cathedral into the ground wants to relocate it! Farrell has no interest. Mc Dermott lives in the plush Clontarf and never lived in Presbytery- From your list you have auxiliary options. Byrne is useless and it shows how silly he thinks he’s in charge of renewal- it’s a sinking ship/ no hope there-! Same boat for all of them!

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7.47: The only one of any decency and personality is Donal Roche…McD and Gareth are careerist. We don’t require auxiliaries. Just appoint two or three priests with more responsibilities for different areas. Or – radically we ought to be choosing professional lay administrators for clustering of parishes. We’re lost with the BUILDING HOPE PROJECT…Lost – a lot of platitudinous talk but nothing substantial.

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Speaking about persons still missing who are believed to have been abducted, murdered and secretly buried during the Northern Ireland Troubles, Bishop Tom Deenihan says the relatives of”the disappeared” are still waiting, praying and searching.

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Roche is a chameleon, blends in with the status quo, the type always promoted in the past. Aims to please his master. He’s likely a shoe-in.

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7.29
Er Martin, here’s the thing – a first name doesn’t identify you – your still anonymous, the very thing you accuse others of you do yourself that makes you a hypocrite!!
Moral coward – I don’t think I’ve ever been so flattered – thank you darling. Moi! x
Ps. Whatever or whoever you think I am is a figment of your intolerant imagination!!

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Is Eugene Sweeney in the running?
I suspect if Michael Router gets the nod for D&C Sweeney will get the call up for the Armagh Auxiliary, he’ll make a dam good Bishop.

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