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WHO WILL BE THE NEXT INCUMBENT AT “CHATEAU NOEL”.

CHATEAU NOEL – LISBREEN

JOURNALIST HUGH JORDAN’S THOUGHTS

ANTIQUE DESK

A Belfast priests says he saw Noel looking at a £15,000 desk in Ballinderry Antiques and when he went back to the shop a few days later it was gone?

Did it end up in Lisbreen?

Naturally speculation is now rife as to who might succeed Our Noelle at Lisbreen.

COMMENT FROM YESTERDAY”S BLOG

The candidates are divided into two corrals – within the diocese or without the diocese – with from without the diocese the more likely.

The name of Michael Router, the auxiliary in Armagh has been bandied about.

ROUTER IN ALL HIS FINERY

Word among the clergy is that Our Amy and Router are not the best of pals and Amy might like him gone?

Router is part of the Cavan clerical mafia – one of Seanie Brady’s men.

He was a reputation for having a Cavan temper too ?

Then there is talk of Alan McGuckian being transferred from Raphoe?

ALAN MC GUCKIAN

Alan is quite a nice man. At an ACP conference a few years ago he was one of the few priests to speak to me.

He seems to have become very serious and somewhat overburdened since he became a bishop.

It can’t be easy dealing with an RC diocese these times with so many problems and scandals.

Alan will be 70 in February.

Mind you, D&C could get a lot worse than Alan. He is sincere and says his prayers.

Of the recent bishops of D&C Philbin. Daly and Walsh were already bishops.

I think that Donal McKeown who will soon be 73 is too old?

MC KEOWN

Donal was a nice man as a priest. He has changed since becoming a bishop – and not for the better in my view.

A PRIEST OF ANOTHER DIOCESE OR RELIGIOUS ORDER?

That could happen. But D&C is quite a senior diocese?

God save us from Joe McGuinness of Clogher, a long term bishop wannabe

It could be a surprise priest from some other diocese or religious order.

FROM WITHIN D&C

I think a D&C insider is highly unlikely.

Are TIMMY BARTLETT’S and EUGENE O’HAGAN’S HOPES UP?

In fairness, Timmy has proven him to be a very able and popular PP in St. Mary ‘s in Belfast.

In one sense it does not really matter who comes as the job description is – “the management of growing decline”.

149 replies on “WHO WILL BE THE NEXT INCUMBENT AT “CHATEAU NOEL”.”

In 2022 the most sensible thing to do would be to reduce the ridiculous number of dioceses in Ireland, give none of them an auxiliary and give bishops a small maximum budget for decoration beyond which they have to pay themselves.

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11:34 agreed, they live like Kings. This is clearly reflected both in their attitude and in their determined lack of response to the many outstanding and unresolved issues in the Roman Catholic Church. Any victim or sick and elderly person awaiting redress would be absolutely sickened by this shameless display of wealth from an organisation that is constantly seeking contributions from the public and also consistently applying for grants from governments etc. No wonder they have so many administrators.

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All speculation Pat. We’ve heard similar names and no one knows. Whoever it is will face huge challenges as, in all Dioceses, we ard experiencing rapid indifference. Since reopening after the pandemic parishes are struggling to regain those who haven’t returned. There is a great need for someone to really be a shepherd among people..out on the streets…being with people. Many of us in parishes are increasingly disillusioned (but I won’t allow hopelessness set in) about the state of affairs in our Dioceses. And many clerics are in their 70’s, some 80’s and feel abandoned and are still expected to fill in the gaps. Those of us a few years behind are fearful of the next few years. We’re doing out utmost but do not witness the fruits of our pastoral efforts in ways that are affirming or fulfilling as we once did. I just fervently pray to God for the graces I need each day…Without this prayer – faltering at times, I’d be more lost. God is real in times of darkness but we seem unable to grasp his love or presence at times with so much negative condemnation about the horror of abuse by so many clerics, a justified condemnation.

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11:53 certain Bishops also have lay “friends” making life very uncomfortable for some clergy in parishes who are wholly undeserving of such intimidatory tactics.

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9:45 publicly published reports cite a culture of bullying, cover ups and intimidation inside the RC itself in some locations.

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If you feel unable to grasp God’s presence at a time of so much justified ‘negative condemnation’ of the horror of clerical abuse I’m honestly mystified why that would be?
Does your comment perhaps not come across correctly to represent your thoughts?
Surely if the condemnation is justified it isn’t negative?
Or perhaps you, completely reasonably, feel dispirited by the sheer amount of clerical misdemeanor? In which case, welcome to reality, where the horror isn’t nassaged with fairy tales.

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11:53. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that the ‘old days’ of clerical paramountcy will ever return.
Welcome to the world of reality. And there’ll be no redundancy payouts either. (Your reward will be in heaven of course)

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I have heard Kevin Donaghy PP VG mooted.
Also Canon Benedict Fee PP EV VF.
Eugene Sweeney is a Devon Loch type horse, but very shrewd.
A decent man for the job is Eugene O’Neill of Coalisland.
The successor will, take it from me, be from the Archdiocese of Armagh.

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BENNY FEE? Lisbreen would not be big enough for Benny. He built a hotel for himself in Coalisland!

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I think Belfast needs that glitter and sparkle so camp and gay (and common) in the priesthood.
David Moore PP Pomeroy should fit the bill nicely.
A gossip and keen to stir trouble. He’s met the essential criteria.

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It’ll be a right laugh if the next bishop does a Francis style ostentatious display of faux humility and sells Lisbreen, after Noel splashing 4 mill on it.

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The Roman Catholic Church must finalise their business with the hundreds of thousands of victims and survivors worldwide or the policing authorities should do it for them if they continue to refuse to co-operate.

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9:51 I’m surprised to hear that, Bishop Tom Deenihan is tough on whistleblowers including Dom. Benedict Andersen – still waiting on his letter of good standing and denied closure. Pure unchristian spite and a very poor example from Tom.

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O’hagan would love the job. So would Eugene O’Neill. It would suit their ego. Then again they may as well give it to any buck eejit because the diocese is falling apart and is beyond saving regardless of who gets it. It is a diocese full of corrupt priests . Treanor will be over the moon just to get out of it

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@7:53
So if it is a diocese full of corrupt priests has Chateau Noel an ultra modern extremely expensive high powered shredder in situe?
Were any Safeguarding reviews ever carried out in the diocese?

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Bishop Pat, as there are some priests and members of parishes contributing to this blog who are clearly very proud of their work in same, perhaps they might accept an invitation from the blog to highlight that many initiatives they are instigating and executing around the various Diocese on a named basis as surely there is no need for them to hide their light under a bushel by remaining anonymous. They are clearly in a far more privileged position in this respect than the persons from your caseloads that you are kindly supporting because that was entirely lacking and worse from the RC. Thank you.

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If Noel is not shipping his impressive wine collection to Brussels, his successors and his friends are in for a lovely treat. I certainly will be hoping for an invitation.

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What an amazing looking house, so beautiful. How many bedrooms? The cleaning contractors must have a very lucrative contract for such a big mansion. Are the premises shared with other clergy or diocesan staff or volunteers?

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11:11 it is unreasonable to expect us to share our personal living accommodation with the staff.

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3:13 Why? What goes on that you don’t want the staff (more correctly the other staff in addition to yourself) reporting to Bishop Buckley?

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3:13 Father, how many spare bedrooms in your accommodation? Our priest has 3 spare bedrooms but obviously does not require the €800 payment being offered to house refugees.

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11:11am Fr Jerry Carey’s old parish in Doora Barefield, Ennis filed an application for new parish offices earlier this year.

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It will be very expensive to transport Noels antique collection and his large quantity of miscellaneous belongings to Brussels. I don’t think he is quite ready to part with his lovely sports car yet so may drive it over or have someone do it for him.

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The nunciature will be well appointed and with better wine than can be sourced by Nicholson’s of Crossgar, where Noel gets his vino and spirits.

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Pat investigate the Clogher deal with Kevin Connolly. Why is Kevin worth the hassle of all this movement of cash?

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8:42 Roberta, don’t mind them. A significant number of serving male clergy in the Roman Catholic Church are practicing homosexuals and a lesser number are bi-sexual swingers or into other unmentionable practices. Refer back to this blog archive for “some” mentions of the unmentionables. Others are unpublishable. The common denominator shared by all of these hypocrites and their supporters is that they all continue to discriminate against women, children and vulnerable adults by utilising outdated and impractical social traditions and outdated stereotyping methodologies to execute such abusive discrimination in various formats by their engaged individuals from a variety of backgrounds. Be happy, be yourself and don’t allow yourself or your family to be defined by the self interested grudges and agendas of others. Keep safe.

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Up here in Twinbrook at the bookies that I work in, people would be horrified at the size of that house. Most of us are struggling to make ends meet. People can hardly afford a carry out and a wee flutter anymore. Any wonder the 25% off six bottles in Asda is so popular?

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9:47 Asda deals are scorned and of zero interest to those types for they purchase their wines at auction or from specialist stores or importers. A world most sheep hardly know exists although they are, of course, paying for it.

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Bishops live in luxury and decadence- lay people’s should wise up – they have funded these chancers for too long.
Name me a bishop and I’ll show you his palace.
Take it away and hear them squeal like little piggies!!

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@ 10.20
Bishop John Keenan = parish house in a rough scheme (shared with PP)
Bishop Joe Toe = former parish house
Archbishop William Nolan = parish house in city centre (shared with PP)
They all sold the Bishop’s Palaces
Cushley promised to do the same but all hot air.

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There were never any palaces in the UK in the RC church to be sold. Definitely with the Anglicans. Viz: Archbishop Canterbury (Lambeth Palace on the south bank of the river Thames) and Durham to name but 2.
Your other points about Paisley (Bishop Keenan), Glasgow (Archbishop Nolan) are correct. However, I do believe Bishop Toal of Motherwell has lived in various parish houses.

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@ 5.57
Bishop toal has only resided at Saint Gerard’s in Bellshill however he has got a bad hip and needs replacement so he may need all on the one floor accomodation also due to his eyesight he is not allowed to drive.
Archbishop Nolan has just sold Archbishop Philip’s old residence for nearly a Million and looks like he is going to sell Archbishop’s house The Oak’s for over a Million.
Maybe not palace’s but good investments

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Why is the Bishop of Motherwell living in a parochial house, given the amalgamation of St. Gerald’s and Sacred Heart, it isn’t even a parochial house anymore. That’s a very strange set up.

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I hope the fools who continue to throw money at this bunch of freeloading, indolent parasites realise just how stupid and gullible they appear to the rest of the world.

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10:22 most are not they fools they may appear at first glance, on closer examination you will discover that they tend to be aligned to the church in some way beneficial to extended family via related contacts, employment or other links.

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Noel will be delighted to get out of D&C and back to Brussels where he will not be under such scrutiny. He’s enjoyed the kingdom in D&C and lived well, and he will I am sure take all the nice things he’s accumulated at Lisbreen with him to furnish his new residence in Brussels. Who paid for them and to whom they really belong will be lost in the midst of time. As happens so often when clergy move from one parish to another. He’s not got many years left in him, I think he’s already 72, so this will be a short term appointment, and then he will be able to go off and live a nice European life. I doubt if he will come back to Ireland. Alright for some !

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10:30 there are many deviant Irish clerics in various locations around the world who will never be subjected to justice and many of their victims have already passed away or in difficult health and financial circumstances. Pope Francis and his pious platitudes are nothing more than a mockery of these victims and their families.

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Fr Deenihan is enhancing his public persona with the cause of Fr Willy Doyle sj and now with his statements onthe disappeared. If the other episcopal contenders are not careful, the red hat may be winging its way to Mullingar.

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Birmingham are selling Aston Hall for £1.6 million – they used this to house their sick clergy and hide away their child abusers – Quigley lived there before his trial and jailing.
What’s going to happen to their sick clergy now?
Where will they house their child abusers?
Why are they selling – are they in financial trouble?
They have a hefty property portfolio- Oscott and Maryvale must be £10 million.
Will the lay people see any of these proceeds?
Probably not – I’d say money to keep the clergy accustomed to their lifestyle!!

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11:01 They are milking the benefits of their colossal accumulated wealth whilst their victims go without. They will continue to enjoy luxurious living standards for the rest of their lives.

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New auxillary for Southwark. Msg Philip Monger from Leeds and presently at Wlsingham. NB that Archbishop of Southwark came from Leeds.

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Poor man, giving up the delights of rural Norfolk and quaint Walsingham for the grimy outskirts of south London and beyond. Mind you, he might not miss the Marian religious nutters who populate Walsingham and the Shrine, not to mention the lace, Latin, satin, biretta clergy out for the day, with a little gay cruising in the sand dunes of Holkham after an early summer Vespers at the Shrine.

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Maryvale is a problem. Protected, heritage status, but needs huge amounts spending on it, and they don’t have the money. Aston Hall has been surpassed by priests going in to retirement flats or care homes. Or just being told to make their own way and their own arrangements. Oscott is going to be a problem too. Too big, not the kind of place you really should be training priests, not fit for purpose, and just indulges all the latin, lace, satin and incense inclinations. They have a problem on their hands there. And to be honest, I’m not sure it could be sold for a high class hotel. I mean, look at the area where it is stuck between Erdington and Kingstanding !

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It makes the best sense to sell off listed buildings if they can. I can see the buildings you mention becoming Cardross Seminaries round their necks and eventually being taken care of by arsonists before the land is sold for development.
Listing buildings only hastens their demise if they can’t be used in some way.

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11.42: What a sad life you have..With all the problems in society re: homeless people, migrants suffering, Ukranians.. all you are worried about is gossip! You are pitiably sad. Idiot.

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11:42 The Killaloe MIAs have gone off the radar. A wise move by the Bishop. After nearly 3 months of waiting, one survivor will soon be getting some very important information from the Diocese which will be pivotal in determining how things move forward in relation to the numerous complaints that have been lodged.

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7:01 are the complaints you refer to from the one married lady or have other complainants come forward to the Diocese?

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Give chateau Noel and the job to Ciaran Dallat. Sure he has redeemed himself and is now an upstanding member (no pun intended) of the RCC. Mind you The Leafy affluent Somerton Road couldn’t cope with the amount of traffic entering the premises. Lisbreen would make an excellent party venue!

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The fat man in Celbridge – Joe McDonald has has the famous ‘enquiry form’ sent out about him from the Nuncio. He could be the dark horse in the race.(Although by the look of him he couldn’t run very far)

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11.41am

Interesting – wonder why they are selling though – they’ve had Aston Hall forever. Is Monet to tight to mention or are they just cashing in – Kerching!!
They run the diocese at a significant loss I see – 4-5 million deficit year on year I see – can’t go on indefinitely!!
Rumour is they are making lay people redundant but keep that on the down low and always seem to struggle on getting their Safeguarding people to stay long – poison chalice I’d say and clergy resistant to change etc.
CEO and HR cost them a shed load of cash but even that gravy train is going to come off the rails.
Bernard hasn’t a clue about money and loves to be bossed around and told what to do so he can blame someone else.
He’s happy though he’s got his Dominic and his little clique around him who tell him he’s marvellous.
They need a war chest though because the litigants must be lining up to get their sizeable compensation packages and settlements.
Bernard will be happy to retire and who knows like Couve jump before he is pushed!!

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Interesting example of diocesan mythology going on here, in the impression they’ve had Aston Hall forever. They were given it as recently as 1959, well within living memory.
There is a fake mythology that things have always been the way they are, which is ahistorical and portrays a failure to examine facts before making stupid comments.

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5:29 clergy & their cohorts are more into whatever mythology fits their current coverup agenda than facts.

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Oh, saints preserve us from Fatman Joe…….he never shuts up and knows everything about everything……He is a belfast native and external to diocesan pilitics though……oh gawd……

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Gosh Pat, I’m surprised you don’t know that tantalising story- you’re not as well informed as I thought. Give me your mobile number please and I will bring clarity to the situation for you

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1.47: Pat, surely you’ve heard about Fr. Joe McDonald! A very clever, articulate and intelligent man. He graduated from the Christian Brothers to the Dublin Diocese. I think it’s regrettable that this priest is being “fat shamed” by your blog from ignoramuses. Joe has spoken very openly about his sexual abuse and the damage it caused him. He met his priest abuser as a way of bringing closure to his hurts and turmoil. However, the effects of sexual abuse can be life long. None of us knows how we might be in our lives as a result of sexual abuse. To allow personalised derogatory comnents about his or anyone’s physical appearance is abusive bullying. It is unacceptable. Joe is nowhere near consideration as an auxiliary bishop!!

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I think he’s a former christian brother who was headmaster in Belfast. He left the sinking CBS ship and was ordained for Dublin. He’s bumptious and highly opinionated. He would be a PR disaster- he loves cameras and studios. He’d make Coddle Martin look like a shrinking media violet. I dont think he could be a serious contender….but who knows with Frankie.

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If Dear old Noel Is going to be an NCO to the EU why do we need NCOs in the different European countries. What is his Brief for the job and how are outcomes measured. Will he have a uniform

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Wonder what odds you would get on Phonsie getting a move from the South-East to the North-East. Not many priests in W&L would shed too many tears to see it happen, but they could be left to wonder who would come in in his place. Might be a case of better the devil you know.

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2:05
North-East…. I suggest an appointment as PayPal Nuncio to the North Pole out of harms way with a holiday log cabin in Lapland.

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Weird that in the first two lines it tells us TWICE that he is the eldest in a family of 4. Do they think their audience is too stupid to read it in the first sentence?!

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Quite the genius- not. He has recollections from two years old but was doing his A-Levels aged 20 when the Hunger Strikers were dying? And given that most of them died during the summer, he was perhaps doing repeats.

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WHY is the Irish church allowing any new initiatives when it doesn’t have the resources to keep the ones it’s got going?

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He’s a right mincer but almost 68. Are the congregation for bishops recruiting from care homes these days?

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USA
Newly Elected Roman Catholic Bishops’ Conference President Broglio :
Link Between Homosexuality and Sexual Abuse Crisis ‘Can’t Be Denied’
November 27, 2022 Susan Berry, PhD
The newly elected head of the United States Conference of Roman Catholic Bishops (USCCB) said last week following his election he maintains the assertion that a relationship exists between the crimes of Roman Catholic clergy sex abuse scandal and homosexual Roman Catholic priests ordained in the Roman Catholic Church.
Archbishop Timothy Broglio, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of the Military Services, said in a press conference he continues to stand by his 2018 statement in which he stated the issue of homosexual Roman Catholic priests is “certainly an aspect of the sexual crisis that can’t be denied,” LifeSiteNews reported.
“That’s certainly not to point a finger at anyone,” the Roman Catholic archbishop added, “but I think it would be naïve to suggest that there’s no relationship between the two.”
In August 2018, military.com reported Captain Antonio Rigonan, a Roman Catholic Air Force chaplain, allegedly stated during Mass that many Roman Catholic priests who sexually abused children were “homosexuals,” a remark that prompted the wife of an officer to be outraged enough to contact Broglio, who oversees all Roman Catholic pastoral ministries and services for over 220 U.S. military installations throughout the world.
Military.com reported the reaction of the officer’s wife to Broglio’s response:
Broglio’s response took her aback, she said. While he said he didn’t agree with Rigonan’s word choices, the Roman Catholic archbishop wrote that he stood by the chaplain’s comments concerning homosexuality, according to a copy of the email reviewed by Military.com.
Broglio’s office confirmed the email’s authenticity.
“There is no question that the crisis of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic priests in the USA is directly related to homosexuality,” Broglio wrote. “[Ninety percent] of those sexually abused were boys aged 12 and over. That is no longer pedophilia.
1)Newly Elected Catholic Bishops’ Conference President: Link Between Homosexuality and Sexual Abuse Crisis ‘Can’t Be Denied’
November 27, 2022 Susan Berry, PhD

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Whoever revealed the enquiry about JMCD from the nuncio has breached the Pontifical Secret and committed a mortal sin.

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3.20 You’d need to know the state of the person’s conscience before arriving at that conclusion. Were you asleep during James O’Kane’s lectures?

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Whoever continues to cover-up abuse of children and vulnerable adults, corruption and crime is committing mortal sin and a criminal offence.

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Born in 1961 makes him 61. Just the right age for the job. Look out Down & Conor – you’ll be wishing Treanor had never left you.

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https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2022/11/catholic-order-faces-130-child-sex-abuse-allegations/
CATHOLIC ORDER FACES 130 CHILD SEX ABUSE ALLEGATIONS
Dublin, Ireland.
The Times/The Sunday Times [London, England]
November 27, 2022
By Patrick O’ Donoghue and Beau Donelly
“The Irish wing of the Saint John of God congregation has so far received 131 allegations of child sexual abuse against members of its order over the past five decades. The Catholic order that ran special schools in Ireland has not made one legal settlement with victims, The Sunday Times can reveal. Thirty-four fresh claims of abuse have been made since 2015, when a safeguarding review of the order was carried out by the National Board for Safeguarding Children in the Catholic Church in Ireland. The order was aware of 97 allegations of child sexual abuse at the time of the review.”

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Pat, You’re post at 3:27
I cannot enter that.
Left me rolling in laughter. As the Bishop said to the actress!

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Fat Joe went on a date with a drag Artist on RTE some months ago, so I imagine he’d be an acceptable candidate to the LGBT etc community.

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What is the point of auxiliary bishops in this day and age? At one time they were needed as confirmation machines but confirmation has now been devolved to PPs. Is it just a form of patronage or to make a bishop look busy because he needs a wingman?
How would the likes of Router fill his day, or even a bishop of a micro diocese such as Killala or Achonry? Those aren’t full-time jobs, surely?

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BENNY FEE? Lisbreen would not be big enough for Benny. He built a hotel for himself in Coalisland!

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Pat, I have been thinking a lot today. There were comments on yesterday’s blog about incest and it’s giving me the freedom to feel able to open up and talk about my experience of it for the first time. When i was in my late teens i had a brief sexual encounter with my grandmother and this happened a few times. I know people would feel outraged and certainly it would cause a rift in my family but I’ve kept this bottled up for many years and felt terrible. In my own mind the only thing i was able to do to try and seek forgiveness was be kind to my grandad in the end stages of his life. Can God forgive me? Thank you Pat.

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This is not the first time Ive heard about someone having sex with a grandparent. You were a teenager. Your granny was the responsible older person. I cannot see that any moral guilt rests with you. You do not need God’s forgiveness. Perhaps you need to forgive yourself? If you want to talk I am here.

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Thanks so much for your kind words Pat. That means a lot. I’m sure you can understand why I have never been able to discuss this with anyone until now. People would think I was disgusting but as you said I was young and it just happened. I really did love my granny and our bond was very strong and deep. She definitely didn’t take advantage or anything. It just happened. But in a sense you could say she was unfaithful to my grandad and i feel bad about that. Thank you for giving me a place to unburden myself. I have always had great respect for the elderly. Their wisdom teaches us so much and as a way of making up for the wrongs i did, I volunteer with a group that befriends and supports old people.

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You raise the most important of issues in this blog. Me and my twin sister still have sex despite being married to other people. I don’t and never will understand why it is illegal when we are both consenting adults.

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Pat, you are allowing individuals write “incest” stories which is very disturbing. I’m not convinced about the efficacy of some of these stories. Any form of incest is a serious matter and not to be treated lightly, as I feel is happening on your blog. Any person who has engaged in or is a victim of incest should receive adequate counselling. As for Michael at 6.50…He needs to cop on to himself. When his wife finds out, he’ll deservecduvorce papers. His type of incest is morally reprehensible. What will you, a bishop, tell “Michael”? That it’s ok once they’re consenting adults and all he need to is forgive himself? This man is destroying lives. Incest us an egregious crime and betrays the bodily integrity of all who are affected. Recent court cases of incest have been very disturbing and that an “adult” man, Michael, should boast about raping his twin sister is utterly depraved and sickening.

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We all know that certain commenters post comments about lesbians, child abuse and incest. When you allow comments you get any amount of trolling but the fact that these things make it on to the blog is down to Pat alone. I can only imagine what contribution he thinks these things make to any discussion but have a distinct impression he likes readers to be offended or shocked.

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7.09: You are spot on. Michael at 6.50 is a repugnant human being, if he is at all real. This blog is used by abusers like him to make light of incest. It is a most deplorable crime and no amount of ” we’re consenting adults” crapology can justify this morally sick crime and behaviour. If indeed Michael is real, he’s a sick psycho. I hope his wife finds out and throws this filth bag on the streets or that his twin sister’s husband will deal with this pervert. What sickness of mind.

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6.47: Pat, you are not a trained, professional psychotherapist, so you should advise any incest victim to seek such professional help. The spiritual twaddle of advice is totally inadequate and may be very damaging. Incest victims should be encouraged to report their abuse, not try to brush it
away with an Our Father or Hail Mary…Use your discernment mire wisely.

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7:15
Patronizing Padraig; George @5:53pm asked a question on forgiveness.
Pat answered his question. He didn’t tell or suggest George brush it away.
Pat also offered George an opportunity to talk off blog. Psychotherapy is not a panacea for every issue under the sun. Have you a problem…?

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Tom Deenihan’s continued persecution of Dom Benedict Andersen is absolutely scandalous and most unChristian. Messengers get shot. Whistleblowers get banished to the wilderness.
“We are also expected to see Christ in our neighbour and, harder, act as Christ to that same neighbour.” – Tom Deenihan.
How is Tom acting as Christ to Dom Benedict Andersen? Tom must explain!

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Seamus you normally write good posts and I commend you for that. However, you are obsessed with Dom Benedict Andersen and Bishop Deenihan.
Is it possible that Bishop Deenihan knows things that we don’t? In the interests of confidentiality, he cannot say.
Bishop Deenihan has campaigned for the “Disappeared”. I commend him for that.

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Dom Benedict’s testimony was credible. The diocesan response was inconsistent. The people Tom is protecting have not shown themselves to be people of integrity. DMK was credibly accused of sexual harassment. What more can anyone say about the wayward abbot who was part of the visitation? The monk who took over of Prior then embarrassingly was viewing certain graphic images. Tom Deenihan seems more intent in protecting these 3 individuals?

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Scandalous and unChristian behaviour of Bishops and Religious superiors is nothing new. Cover-up continues. Deenihan/ Andersen letter is a blatant example of Bishopric injustice. Has Brendan Coffey or Bishops conference anything to say on the matter, as Deenihan won’t be giving explanations.

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8.40: Good God, the obsessed maniac, Seamus, must have a boring life and must be a total bore in company. Seamus, we’ve got your obsession sickness. Get help. Read the newspapers for a little distraction.

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Where is the help for Dom Benedict? How long more must he wait to receive his rightful letter of good standing?
Messengers get shot. I will be struck at for speaking out. The likes of 9:10 will support Tom Deenihan and treat the likes of Dom Benedict appallingly. It is completely wrong and unjust.
Is Tom Deenihan no longer to be scrutinised for his abject failure?

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9:10 at least pretend to be some kind of a Christian and join Seamus in showing some compassion for the ongoing and unnecessarily drawn out plight of Dom Benedict at the cruel hands of Bishop Tom Deenihan. That man seriously has no conscience whatsoever for his disgraceful treatment of this holy whistleblower.

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10:03
Patronizing Padraig continues to patronize.
A problem shared is a problem halved.
If you ever need to chat with someone, talk to Pat.

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In Kerry Diocese next weekend we have the annual collection at all Masses for Kerry Diocesan Youth Services with its open advertising of free condoms and lube.

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@9:25 According to the Irish Catholic newspaper Dr Tom Finegan an Irish theologian has called on bishop Ray Browne to publicly correct an “egregiously wrong” statement the prelate made about a controversial homily in Listowel, Co. Kerry. Does Ray know Catholic teaching…?

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Would it really hurt if a “normal” priest were appointed as a Bishop in D&C. A man who has no postgrad qualifications, someone who has 20 or 30 years experience as a curate and then parish priest. Previously unheard of except to his parishioners. Just a thought….it would be far better received than even the best of the candidates listed above.

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All this incest stuff- while rather disgusting- also brings up a pastoral issue that’s often not mentioned- another is the propensity of people, especially in rural areas, having sex with animals. That’s not an unusual one that is mentioned in confession but there’s a real taboo around it.

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Bishop Noel Treanor and the Belfast Brigade of the IRA
Date: April 13, 2020
Author: Shane Paul O’Doherty
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Bishop Noel Treanor will probably be best remembered for spending well over £1M on lavish upgrades to his Belfast residence, ‘Lisbreen’, on Somerton Road, over a third of the cost picked up by a generous Stormont grant in 2014.
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Bishop Treanor spends over £1M on upgrades to his “lavish home”
Bishop Treanor may also be remembered for his poor relationship with the head of the Catholic church’s own child protection agency, Ian Elliott, to whom the Bishop had to publicly apologise back in 2012.
1)Bishop Noel Treanor and the Belfast Brigade of the IRAhttps://irishpeaceprocess.blog › 2020/04/13 › bishop-no…
13 Apr 2020

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