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ALL THE PRIEST’S CHILDREN

Was my mother the child of a Catholic priest?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63829235

Vivien Prior’s mother had long suspected she was the secret child of a Catholic priest but her daughter had no proof.

It was not until the 1990s that Vivien first saw a photo of the man she thinks is her grandfather.

“I was quite shocked to see the likeness – to see the photograph and think, ‘of course mum was right – of course he’s her father’,” Vivien says.

Her grandmother Georgina was housekeeper to Father Joseph Brough, a Catholic priest who served in Carnoustie and Dundee for almost 40 years after being ordained in 1909.

She believes her mother Josephine was born in secret in 1928, before being put into foster care in Suffolk, hundreds of miles away in the south-east of England.

Vivien says: “Of course, mum was suspicious, because she was named after him, wasn’t she? Her name was Josephine.”

Children of clergy

Coping International is an organisation which advocates for children of clergy and it believes there are thousands of people around the world who are children of priests.

Its founder Vincent Doyle set up the organisation in 2011 after discovering his own father was a priest.

“I thought to myself there is no way that I am the only one,” he says.

PAT SAYS

God only knows how many priests have fathered children – even after celibacy was made obligatory?

Common Irish surnames give a clue:

Mc Entaggart the son of the priest.

Mc Anespie the son of the bishop.

Mc Nabb the son of the abbot.

HOW THE RCC TREATED PRIESTS CHILDEN AND THEIR MOTHERS

The Church, the bishops and the clergy ALWAYS blamed the woman.

“How dare that trollop steal a man from God’s holy altar“.

Echoes of earlier Church teaching that the vagina was the gateway to Hell.

Normally the priest was transferred to another part of the world for a few years.

The woman and child were treated like dirt, told to stay away from the priest and to move to a new area.

If the woman was lucky the bishop gave her a paltry sum to help her on her way.

And the Church, bishop and priest washed their hands of the poor woman and child like Pontius Pilate 🤢

So much for “Let the little children come on to me”.

How many thousands of children have been deprived of their fathers by the RCC?

How many priests have turned the backs on their sons and daughters?

How many Irish missionary priests have left children behind in Africa, South America and Asia?

How many bishops and religious superiors have covered all this up?

158 replies on “ALL THE PRIEST’S CHILDREN”

I have repeatedly read that bishops prefer gay candidates for priesthood thinking that at least they’re not paedos. Of course this isn’t true because we know cathbots are stupid and think gays are paedophiles, in fact a bishop has been quoted on this blog saying just that recently.
The real reason bishops have preferred gay priests since the nineties was the movement to force fathers to pay maintenance. Paternity tests imposed by law could have proved how few priests are celibate.
Such a surprise. 😂

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11:33 pm, what bishop said gays are pedophiles? Maybe you are thinking of the US bishop who said priests sexually involved with older teenagers in the 1970s and 1980s were not pedophiles but just ordinary gays.

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I do know a brother and sister at the age of 60 right now, their Father was a Roman Catholic Priest. {The Roman Catholic Priest is dead, because of age.)

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This blog post will be the occasion for Seamus the 8th saying ‘Sure and tis always the woman tempting the holy priest so it is, she should contain her lust the dirty tramp, begorrah.’

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Any update on Dom Benedict Andersen? If I discover that Santa called to Bishop Tom Deenihan whilst this letter remains denied, I’ll have a “surprise” waiting in my chimney. 🎅

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Secrets, lies, coverups, abandoned children all over the world, church donations spent on abortions of priests kids, those same hypocritical priests invoking harassment and moral authority on unsuspecting parishioners.

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A significant number of girls impregnated by clergy and their friends would have ended up in mother and baby homes, this was preferable to clergy who did not want to give them any money and it was a double whammy for the church run mother and baby homes, free slave labour and a child to sell or exploit if they managed to survive abuse and malnutrition and any other horrors these brides and grooms of Christ inflicted on them.

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I do, I am paying my tithe. Different concept and language. Keep it civil please.

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The number of children born to Roman Catholic priests is unknown although one support group, Coping International, has 50,000 users in 175 countries. Some children are the result of consensual relationships, but others are the result of rape or sex abuse.
1)Vatican’s Secret Rules for Catholic Priests Who Have Children
By Jason Horowitz and Elisabetta Povoledo Feb. 18, 2019
2)Vatican office admits silence about children of priests was a …https://www.ncronline.org › news › vatican-office-admi… 1 Feb 2021 —
3)Priest who leaves ministry after fathering a child must be supported for some time afterwards…https://www.thetablet.co.uk › news › priest-who-leaves-..30 MARCH 2022, THE TABLET

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One sure fact is, not all those were left to carry the can, ending up in unmarried Mother and baby homes, had children by Roman Catholic priests.
If only it was as easy to point the finger at the rest of the 60,000 Irish men, plus another projected 25,000 who impregnated Irish women. Sure! it would be grand, wouldn’t it?
The women concerned never spill the beans on who the Father’s involved are. I would say many errant RELUCTANT Fathers were on a ship out of the country the minute pregnancy was mentioned, never to be heard of again.
The same applies the Roman Catholic priest, move him to another parish, country, continent, when trouble arises.
We will never know what form the relationship took/was, only those involved know. However, unless there is an obvious vulnerability, or the girl is underage, it takes two consenting adults to tango, and DNA testing will identify Fathers, IF THE CAN BE CAUGHT.
Even today, with all the historical knowledge we have on unmarried Mothers & their babies, with contraceptives free in Ireland for girls between 17 to 25 years, the same situation continues to arise.
God alone knows what it will be like when women are allowed into the priesthood.
How many absent Fathers today do not contribute to there children’s support?
“We have a long history in Ireland of absolving absent fathers from responsibility (think mother and baby homes) and this tradition has continued, as we still have no statutory child maintenance body”
1)Calls for dedicated State service to pursue parents who fail to pay child maintenance
Support services for lone parents have pointed out that the adversarial and costly courts route is the only option available.
Jul 31st 2022, 12:05 AM
2)Maintenance defaulters: ‘We have no legal remedies for parents who refuse to pay’
If we are serious about tackling child poverty in Ireland, let’s start the debate around an enforced child maintenance system, writes Louise Bayliss.
Jul 6th 2017, 6:30 AM
3)Ireland makes contraception free for the under 25s
news type: general | post date: 02/11/2021

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You might have a point IF it wasn’t that in a relationship between a laywoman and a priest only one of them is PRETENDING to be celibate.
This is what makes it different, and worse, to be impregnated by a priest compared to anyone else.
EVERY relationship with a priest automatically therefore has a basis in lies and falsehood, which is not the case if you have a fling with the plumber who is single and horny.

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So called “fallen women” from mother and baby homes were often sent to work as priests housekeepers and their child exported in a paid adoption arrangement, the institution arranging the paperwork without written consent or sometimes without informing the mother and the nuns kept the payments from the unvetted adopters.

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Nothing is what it seems at a clergyman’s breakfast table. Far more than marmalade on toast going on.

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Pat, a redemptorist got my sister pregnant in 1989 and then run off to monasteries and has left her on her own with no financial support. I am disgusted

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@ 8:15am
Are you disgusted by your sister also? who should have kept her legs shut and wouldn’t be in the position she’s in now. It’s the price of her becoming involved with a priest in the first place. I don’t condone the actions of this priest either he will have to answer for his depravity.

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12.49

Moderate your language!

‘Kept her legs together’? That’s revoltingly disrespectful! Pat, you shouldn’t publish such remarks. If ever anything on your blog deserved censorship, it’s that fool’s posts.

‘Depravity’? There is nothing depraved about the human sexual act. And it was consensual in this case. What a juvenile ‘hang up’ you have! But then, you’re an old Irish Catholic, aren’t you? So, we can’t really expect better from you, can we?

Your words betray you as a bigot and a mysogynist with a neurosis about sex. You probably never married. I certainly hope not.

You’re disgusting!

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@ 3:08pm
Oh! do shut up ya bollox
I was just stating a fact, there would have been nothing to talk about if she did what I said. You give yourself away with the overuse of that feminist word misogyony. You are a disgusting oul liberal hippy clutching you pearls when you hear the truth to which you’re a stranger, now. do wan.🙄

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3.08: You’re way OTT. It takes two to tango. Many women are as reckless and irresponsible as the men who abandon their child. The pain and hurt caused by both men and women is the result of moral irresponsibility. I have no respect for any man who fails to take responsibility for his child, in or out of marriage. I know some women who are utterly stupid re: choices and moral values and who have little self respect.

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Michael Durkan was a Redemptorist priest from 80s to mid early 90s. I need to link in with him but the Redemptorists will not tell us where he is. Mikey

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10:34 that’s surprising, they are very much publicly forthcoming with private information when it suits their own agenda.

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Our very own Ciara Dallat got that vulnerable woman pregnant and then left her to have a miscarriage on her toilet floor.
Absolutely disgusting behaviour. Then he was appointed chaplain to St Louise’s by Bishop Blind!
Agatha Christie couldn’t have wrote it any better.

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Brigid, we keep a close eye on Mr D here in Loughinisland. There’s not much he does without comment at O’Tooles

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Brigidsays:
Dec 7, 2022 at 8:20 am
She was no spring chicken, she was a 49 year old business woman, who showered him with gifts (Where have we heard that statement before on this site?)She may have had other vulnerabilities. Was she mentally unstable?
(Pat, you watch Judge Judy, how many times have you heard girls say they bought expensive items etc for their boyfriends, and, when the relationship finishes they they are either peeved or, angry with themselves for being so foolish.)
What do you mean, left her to have a miscarriage on her toilet floor?
Was he with her at the time and ran?
Did he know she was miscarrying?
Was there even any evidence of a miscarriage?

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No one should be going to confession or confiding in clergy or their members. This information is used for abusive and exploitative purposes.

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I mean that making amends for your sins is a vital part of being forgiven.

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You are very hard on your fellow clergy. I got a woman pregnant while in ministry in Philippines, she went on to have a beautiful baby boy and marry her now husband who has brought him up as his own. I have asked my Lord for forgiveness, life is so precious regardless of who the father is.

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Father, have you asked her or the child or the adopting father for forgiveness ? Have you supported them financially ? Have you done anything other than look after your own needs and concerned yourself with your own wellbeing ? Doesn’t sound like it to me. It just sounds as though, like so many clergy, it is all about you and your needs. Self-centred and selfish to the core. So, I guess if your Lord has forgiven you, everything is okay in your book, then ? And what about everybody else in this sorry story ? I suspect you haven’t even thought about that. You are just happy that everything has worked out for you.

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Why are you asking if that pathetic, self-pitying priest is financially supporting his child? He’s a parasite: he can’t financially support his son, because he doesn’t work for a living, but sponges off those who do.
As ever, it is the Sheep who fund these poor children, including those that these scumbags force pregnant women to abort, in order to avoid ‘scandal’, and, of course, to save poor ‘Father’s’ good name.

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8.30
Did you ask the woman for forgiveness, priest? You don’t say. I don’t suppose she mattered enough to you even to think of asking for her forgiveness.
Did you ask your son for forgiveness? For abandoning not just his mother, but him as well? You don’t say. I don’t suppose he mattered enough to you even to consider asking for his forgiveness.
No, you asked Christ alone for forgiveness, because, as usual, you were thinking only of yourself: of YOUR salvation.
You betrayed not just Christ, and the Church, priest; you betrayed that woman, and her son, as well. And for what? Not for Christ; that’s for sure. But for your own ‘inglory’ principally. And for an institution that makes one wretch through its moral corruption.

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Nobody should ever allow their son to become a priest, I blame the parents of these men for their clerical misbehaviour.

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Reply to;
Shaunasays:
Dec 7, 2022 at 8:38 am
I’m not too sure about blaming Mothers, children when adults will make their own decisions as, we all did, I certainly did.
I agree, at least Mother’s should constantly point out to their sons and, daughters the responsibilities that come with creating a life, and it is a lifetime commitment.
With the morning after pill, presumably there will be less unwanted pregnancies, irrespective of how any of you find this immoral. Girls will get themselves pregnant either, because they want a baby, or they can ensnare the man involved, no shock! horror”, it does happen, and will continue to happen, at times with not the outcome they expected or wanted.

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Last time we met Queenievenus Pluto, I thought you talked absolute rubbish. But recently your comments on this blog have matured and seem the only bit of sense we now read – well done

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Scamming, exploiting and profiting from the plight of impoverished and vulnerable women and children – lower than a snakes belly.

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Safe spaces for past & current victims & survivors of church related abuse and anti social behavioursays:

Interesting to note that Coping International provide a safe & confidential space for victims to share information & to communicate away from the evil sabotagers from the RCC. The presence of clergy and members trolling your blog to glean information for pending defence and for the purposes of attempting to identify whistleblowers to execute intimidation, harrassment, data & security breaches, stalking etc., is preventing victims and survivors from sharing in a safe environment. These clergy & members are only on here to sabotage your efforts to help victims & survivors & contribute nothing valuable. No doubt some pose as your confidantes but as they remain in the cabal, they are a friend to no one except themselves in their continuing adhering to the modus operandi of an internationally recognised human rights abuser that blatantly continues to abuse victims, survivors, whistleblowers & supporters.
The abuse meted out by clergy & church members to William Mulvihill and to Fr Gerard Fitzgerald’s victims has been noted here and elsewhere.

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9:09
Interesting. Good post. I’ve noticed a number of comment makers
on this blog ‘running with the hare, while hunting with the hound’.
My understanding is Killaloo has major caca in their pipeline.
Watch this space for more…..

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11.21 A genuine question: Can you please tell us who are what caused this big clog in the Killaloe shithole?

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2.03 Because it appears to me that you have made similar comments on this blog over the past few weeks. If you have specific information that relates to whistleblowers in Killaloe then it would be of tremendous help to the cause of clerical accountability and justice if you could share it with us.

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Don’t be concerned with specific information that relates to whistleblowers. My understanding is the caca is in the pipeline.

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No surprises here. At least, there shouldn’t be.

In essence, romanist priests are moral cowards. They will virtually always abandon their moral responsibilities if they prove too self- inconvenient, too self-embarrassing. And why would it be otherwise? They each abandoned Christ at ordination for institutional ‘inglory’. And tossed aside their only strength and salvation.

Romanist priests will always behave very badly indeed. Ask History.😕

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Spot on, 9:18.
I’m a priest’s son, although in my father’s case he had the moral good sense to get out first.
So there is such a thing as a good priest, the ones who’ve woken up and fucked off.

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@9:18
You are right regarding moral cowards.
So many priests keep their mouths shut in relation to abuse, corruption and crime, in the institutional RC coverup community. Many must know of cases still covered up and must have known of colleagues up to no good. They are a brotherhood with a ‘professional network’, or grapevine, like other professional brotherhoods. 😎

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Priests who father children often get funnelled in to chaplaincy jobs that pay a nice salary, with the presumption that the priest will do the decent thing and support the mother and child. Ministries like hospital, prison, military chaplaincy. Always worth asking a few questions about the characters in those ministries, and you will often find that they are there for a good reason. Namely a child that needs supporting.

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…or they go in to these paying chaplaincy jobs because it gives them freedom to live a ‘private’ life which usually involves a boyfriend…. ! There’s nothing as pesky as having the parishioners watching who is coming and going from the presbytery….

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Yes, but I think his father did the decent thing, left the priesthood, and married the woman, and started a new lay life of work and family. That is to be respected. The ones who just carry on in the priesthood are the ones about whom we need to ask questions. My sense is that the decision is made by the priest himself and the bishop that the guy’s priesthood is much more precious and important than being a father to a child or standing by a woman. It’s that old nonsense of priesthood being something so special and important. Load of old tosh. Just an excuse for clerical exceptionalism and putting themselves on a pedestal. And we fell for it…. !

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I wonder if ex + Conry of A & B and the Magic Circle ever fathered a child ? He had enough women over the years.

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Anybody know where Conry is these days ? Did he eventually settle down with one of his women ? Or is he holed up somewhere in prayer and penance still supported by the Church ? Either way he will be in receipt of ongoing economic life support from the Church. I don’t think he had family money.

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Roy Hattersley’s dad was a Catholic priest.

Hey the Catholic Church do cover up and concealment as an art form – they are dark art specialists- in a sense an occult organisation they prefer the hidden and the darkness to the light – and they fecking hate paying out compo for child abuse or paternity for, as they see it, a priests bastard child!!

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This is only a very SMALL percentage of Clergy that fail through human weakness but then this blog is full of Saint’s sadly in our wonderful organisation under the Pontificate of the Holy Father Francis we are all sinners striving for better but we fail and constanly seek forgiveness.
We make NO apology that we are all sinners in the vineyard trying to prune it better through God’s mercy and forgiveness.

WHO AM I TO JUDGE !!!!!!

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AW Richard Sipe estimated only 5% of clergy attain perfect continence throughout their clerical career, as required by the Code of Canon Law.
Love your aping of you know who, BTW, very funny.

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That 5% are probably the asexaul ones. No sexual attraction or experience at all. I’ve known totally celibate and continent priests, and they are generally asexual. Just don’t understand sexual attraction at all. For the rest, the vast majority of them cheat on their vows of chastity / celibacy. It’s a figment of the clerical / Church imagination. And to think that we used to be fooled by it…..!!

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A very honest comment to admit that y’all make no apology for the 6,000+ clergy who fell and raped 20,000+ known victims in the US alone, and that you want them to have an opportunity to do it again.

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@ 11:43am
OMG! Patsy sadly Fanny’s cheer leader is on again babbling on about ‘her’ wonderful organisation and the usual false piety. She’s been in that vineyard too long, time she sobered up, and faced reality.

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THEME OF THIS BLOG
I don’t want half-hearted love affairs
I need someone who really cares
Life is too short to play silly games
I’ve promised myself I won’t do that again
It’s got to be perfect
It’s got to be worth it, yeah
Too many people take second best
But I won’t take anything less
It’s got to be, yeah
Pertect
Young hearts are foolish, they make such mistakes
They’re much too eager to give their love away
Well, I have been foolish too many times
Now I’m determined, I’m gonna get it right
It’s got to be perfect
It’s got to be worth it, yeah
Too many people take second best
But I won’t take anything less
It’s got to be, yeah
Perfect
Young hearts are foolish, they make such mistakes
They’re much too eager to give their love away
Well, I have been foolish too many times
Now I’m determined, I’m gonna get it right
It’s got to be perfect
It’s got to be worth it, yeah
Too many people take second best
But I won’t take anything less
It’s got to be, yeah
Perfect
It’s got to be, yeah
Worth it
It’s got to be perfect
You are all so Perfect and Saintly (think not )

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” We are all sinners, but we are all not corrupt.” Pope Francis.
Far too many in the Church are corrupt.

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Pope Francis is a major part of a corrupt institution, willingly so. How can he, and anyone else part of this institution, not be corrupt? It’s like jumping into a cesspit, and then declaring oneself not to smell of sh*t? 🙄

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Francis is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. He appears pro-victim sorting CSA yet surrounds himself with suspect characters. 🤐

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12:23 Exactly. And the spin to make out he’s a reformer with dark forces in the Vatican ranged against him, is just another part of the scam.

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Of course we’re all sinners trope gets rolled out and Father is only human but it’s like salt isn’t it – salt becomes damp throw it out and corruption is like yeast it infects the whole batch – throw it away and start again.
Clergy always confuse judgement v mercy – a corrupt priesthood shames us all and by God has it proven corrupt.

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That trope doesn’t sit with the special nature of the church and sacraments trope. On the one hand they’re determined to make out they’re dead special.
But then their ‘Look everyone else is as bad as us’ trope indicates they’re not.
The only thing which explains everything in the RC ‘church’ is if it is a crime and a scam with a pretend religion as a front.

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11.06am
Conry is in Portsmouth diocese – housed I’m sure by the church – v likely lives on his own and income provided in one form or another – hes a case of don’t mention the war!!
His mum is in Coventry parish – former parish priests get weird kidos letting people know she’s a parishioner – she’s done nothing wrong leave her alone.
Brum is a den of vipers clerical gossips abound – nothing sacred – everything gets out – the Brum queens spend their days gossiping and bitching.
You know who you are and so do we!

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It is absolutely right that he is supported by the church.
Nobody else wants him and there is no reason the state should support him when bits of his life have been spent in service of a cult.
If the gullible, sorry, faithful don’t like how their donations are spent, this is another reason they should stop giving.

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Conry’s mum must be a good age. He’s into his 70s now. Poor woman has had her fair share of grief, what with Conry himself, but also losing a son to HIV/Aids back in the 90s. So, she has had her fair share of suffering. Poor woman. However, as to Brum Archdiocese, it has real problems. Rapidly ageing clergy, over 50 % foreign priests now serving, and what indigenous young priests there are, well, they are a load of young satin and lace queens, full of themselves and oh so precious. Plus Gaycott as a seminary which is not fit for purpose. Crumbling buildings which the diocese can’t keep up, like Maryvale. A cathedral which is moribund and an expensive white elephant which does nothing, and a dean who is lazy. I think Longley will be longing for his retirement to come sooner than later. Then what ?!

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My brother is infatuated with a priest and makes it obvious he is after him, I find it pitiful, the chase is always better than the catch

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The best Magic Circle suggestion I heard on this blog was that Peter Smith frequented rent boys – how can that ever be known as fact but gay clergy are notorious gossips and they’d get that salacious bit of gossip out there – mind you so was Cardinal Trujillo and he was President of Pontifical Council for Marriage and Family Life. Hilarious.
I suspect being part of the Magic Circle buys you Omertà or Omertà a condition of the club.
Must piss them off that people are wising up.
I always think what is Father up to – it’s never as it seems.

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That’s because they lie continually, especially on this blog.
They don’t even define lies the way anyone else does. Because they’ve identified the cult with truth and themselves with the cult, whatever they say is ‘true’ and everyone else is lying.
Listen to the way they rant at Pat.
Meanwhile the most obvious of their lies are related to sex: celibacy and ‘pro life’ are both obvious complete lies and I think this actually goes for the creed and the whole religion.
You can’t get out when truth = an institution, just like any other cult.

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Oh, + Smith was a gay as a coot. Just kept it well hidden. Mind you, he was the most credible sounding of the bishops. Whether he believed it all or not, I’m not sure, but he did a good spiel. Pity he didn’t get to enjoy his retirement for long. However, he did smoke like a trooper all his life, and it was going to catch up with him. He wasn’t going to make very old bones.

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Why is there zero clergy posting on this blog under their own names? Surely if Pope Francis is truly committed to truth and transparency as the way forward, anonymous clerical posts speak volumes to the contrary.

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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Dec 7, 2022 at 2:33 pm
All said, it does not seem to bother the woman involved in the relationship, does it? I am sure women who get involved with Roman Catholic priest, or for that matter married men, know they are or should be committed.
In some cases it is six of one and a half a dozen of others, especially in consensual relationships.

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Queenievenus, I’m delighted you think that being left alone with a child doesn’t bother them. You really are trying to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds here.

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Pat you are one hateful son of a bitch, for inciting potential children of clergy to go looking for them and out them. We are all allowed to make mistakes and move on. Before starting seminary I’m the States, I give samples of my sperm for payment, and if any of the children I potentially helped conceive come looking for me I will hold you solely responsible and will come after you.

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ODE TO Fr F!
Troll, troll, we hear you bawl.
Have you nothing better to do?
Yer threats are a laugh, a load of chaff.
So stick them ………well you know what to do!

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Reply to;Fr Forgivenesssays:
Dec 7, 2022 at 2:59 pm
You should have thought of that before you “donated”/ sold your sperm, it’s awful even to look at the reason….. sold Fatherhood, for money.
The positive side is hopefully you have helped product children who will be appreciated and loved, and made a woman /couple very happy. Anyone can buy a DNA test online, be prepared someone will come knocking on your door, saying “Hello Father” and they won’t mean Father as in priest.

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Why would a Catholic do something so contrary to the Catholic Faith for payment? Were you too ugly to rent, father?

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There was a deaf priest who fathered a child in North of England as its well known in deaf community. He left the priesthood after some 26 years I think. He was speaking in TV why he thinks that looking after his child is more important etc, need a father figure. He’s critical of his ex Bishop for dragging him along for a few more years re counselling etc. I got the impression that he wanted to get it over quick. He’s ordained by JPII.
Rcc is a misogynistic church with fear and loathing towards women especially the top tier ranking. It’s a gay cabal with false front of being holy, devout, religious etc.
You have a split of where at the top, it’s a gay cabal cardinals, bishops with paid allowance living in luxury privileged apartments in Rome, while at the same time, lower bottom are the churchgoers who are less privileged, more devout, pious especially women to be fair than men including myself as well. These women pay monies to the church on weekly Sunday collections and still they get bad treatment from the top ranking tier.
Once the women are gone, then rcc is gone.

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Anon at 3.19pm
Yeah that’s him as I have met him 2 or 3 times I think. He spent a year in school for deaf girls in Cabra doing a masters in deaf education I think. He told us his story of his decision to become a priest on Christmas day after his mother passed away.
There was deaf gay man who wanted to become a priest way back then. Told him he’s isn’t fit to become a priest cos of his gay background. The first thing he did was to apply to the Dominicans cos of ‘Timothy Radcliffe’. They turned him down. Lots of gays are going to the Dominicans I reckon.
There was one guy who kissed priest’s hands far too much during Latin Mass which turned me off. It was a spectacle. I didn’t know he was an seminarian at that time.
But guess what, he’s gone to the Dominicans after PF issued a decree banning Latin Mass.

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Don’t think many in the Glasgow Daisy Chain will put too many ladies in the club although it’s believed 2 of them defo ‘swing both ways’ Two of them have kids.
The majority of them ( clergy) prefer a stroll up La Boulevard de Chocolara.

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Pat – have you missed the brewing financial scandal up the m8 (Not the boulevard!) between Leo’s kingdom and the charity regulator? 💥💥

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You seem to care very much about our Church? You seem to spend your time thinking about us and writing about us and we not you! Why don’t you join us?

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It’s strange. Anyone would think your omnipotent God would stop him interfering, just like he stopped your priests raping children.

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A priest in Northampton Diocese fathered a child with a married couple which the father, who had suffered a nervous breakdown, appeared to accept. On retirement, he went to live with them and seemed to be a happy family. The boy was the spitting image of the priest and an altar server for him.

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SEEING ‘RED FLAGS’ – IS THERE TRANSPARENCY FOR TROUBLED RELIGIOUS ORDERS ?
When a religious community raises red flags, where should Catholics go for transparent answers?
Michelle La Rosa
November 29 2022.
“When Natalie Schuldt heard this spring that her bishop had invited members of the Institute of the Incarnate Word (IVE) to establish a presence in their Diocese of Fairbanks, Alaska, she was concerned.
“Just a little bit of investigation into their order drew a lot of red flags for me and for others,” she told The Pillar. “The Institute of the Incarnate Word was founded in San Rafael, Argentina in 1984 by Fr. Carlos Miguel Buela.
In 2016, the Vatican confirmed that Buela had been found guilty of sexual misconduct with IVE seminarians.” “ But accountability requires transparency,” she said.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/what-happens-to-a-religious-institute-after-its-founder-is-found-guilty-of-abuse-2/

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The red flags are very clear in the case of the IVE but it’s more tricky for people to tell when nobody has been found guilty of anything.
An example would be the Society of St John (led by Carlos Urrutigoity) until it was suppressed. There were still hints:
– It moved several times
– Its ministry was to youngsters
– It had grandiose plans that never happened
Another example would be one that appeared on this blog’s predecessor, Farnborough Abbey, where no action has been taken but there are still many red flags:
– Many, many young men have entered and left, and the community remains miniscule.
– The chapter split down the middle after an abortive abbatial election which is why the community is completely different people from then.
– Several people have gone public about concerns but it just continues.
It is now very clear that the church will not act on concerns or complaints unless forced to and so the faithful are forced to identify red flags themselves.

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6.44 here’s another red flag operation for your collection.
Many of you had a collective pow wow with your nice priest and said your hopes for your parish. This got hijacked by “animators” despite the best intentions of your priest or of a decent bishop.
This is the sinister contrivance being imposed on you and you aren’t allowed any scope for disagreement or detachment:
/// profound re-appropriation of the common dignity of all the baptised ///
<<>>
>>> a spiritual perspective, which envisages the horizon of synodal missionary conversion <<<
In other words, the rogue enclave is stealing from you your baptism, your conscience, your conversion, your mission and your spirituality.
You and your priest and any bishop of goodwill need to carry on accepting that the only way you will get anywhere will be the only way you ever did, and that was when you were happy to go behind the back of the superapostles as the God given Scriptures said all along.

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/// profound re-appropriation of the common dignity of all the baptised ///
/// A synodal church does not subsist without ‘synodal spirituality’, i.e. without special attention to the interiority and formation of the consciences of its faithful. ///
/// a spiritual perspective, which envisages the horizon of synodal missionary conversion ///

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Women who get involved with priests are not more immoral than the men, but they must be incredibly naive or stupid. Why would you have a child with a man who, by the very act of having the affair, is demonstrating his unreliability and inability to keep a promise?

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5.17: Scots Lass, the same is true if married women who shack up with clerics. They too are breaking solemn vows, are liars, cheaters and foolish. I feel pity for their husbands or partners and families. Women are immoral in this respect and utterly irresponsible.

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The immorality is equal on both sides but as it is women who are left holding the baby, they should be careful not to have affairs with married men or priests, who are obviously scumbags. That applies regardless of the woman’s own marital status.

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I would like to apologise for my reaction to ‘Martins’ comment yesterday, asking me if I would like a sponsor.
Martin, I would love to take you up on that offer. After getting my stomach pumped in the RVH overnight for the 3rd time in 4 weeks I think it is time to accept help when it is offered.
I hope you are keeping well Pat, please keep me in your prayers.

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5:30 Eamon you are truly blessed up there in Northern Ireland with all the cheap booze deals. Count your blessings.

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Wow, this piece has really touched me. My granny’s twin brother was a Priest, and was widely known to have fathered at least 3 children.

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@ 5:33pm
Your Granny if she was a respectable Catholic woman must have been horrified if it was widely known that he had fathered at least three children!!! When was this?

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I don’t understand why men become priests, what are they all hiding from or scared off? Have they been brainwashed at some stage in life?

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It’s severe poor self esteem, coupled with cult mind control, seeking the high social standing of the priest in the cult, inability to tell mother why they’ve never met a special girl, inability to cope with the real world, religious delusions, guilt about masturbation, and a desire for a respectable front for crime.
The abuse scandal is what has ended recruitment because the priesthood is no longer a respectable front.

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6.10: What school of criminology or psychology did you graduate from? Your certificate should be rescinded and demerited immediately. Such pure shite…..👹☻👿👹👺☻☻..

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I am baptising my son on Sunday in the pond out the back, thank you for your advice and encouragement to disengage with the RCC.

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Well done friend of the blog. Me and our lot got together and baptised my wee one on the Lagan tow path, with a few cans and sandwiches and it was more meaningful and genuine.

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9:08 Disgraceful lapsed Catholics, anyone would think we’d abused them in some way.

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That’s a beautiful idea. I would do the same for my new grandsonexecpt that i keep fish in the pond and there are frogs around it too so it wouldn’t be very hygenic for a new baby.

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Well we are in the turflodge diocese and because the priest is so angry and hardly ever there, we baptised our own in bog meadows natural reserve – goats and that alike where there, just like when Jesus was born

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I would not let any woman marry me, baptise my children, or bury me – could you imagine – they are so clumsy.

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5:46 pm
No no no no no no no no……. Pope Francis said women will never become priests in the Roman Catholic Church.

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8:48 Pope Francis sounds like not a very nice man. I’m so glad I’m not a Roman thing a mingingeney whatever you call it…….

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I’ve been quite impressed by the dedication and work of women priests in the various Anglican and other churches. I suspect the Romani and Graeci are watching them too.
Actually I’ve always found most nuns and many women infinitely more pious than men.
BTY, didn’t your own Bishop Patrick ordain a very pious lady a priest? So, what’s the problem?
Pious, I use in the Latin sense of true devotion to God, country, family…

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Pat, I have to remark on your very interesting topic which will have no end in foreseeable future.
That image of the little cherub would warm the hardest heart, he is adorable, I just hope he does not get any idea regarding the priesthood.

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Forgive my ignorance re basic Catholic education as regards to sacremental ordination ‘mark’.
Just wondering re orthological change or permanent mark, Does it pass from father (priest) to his son🤷‍♀️ (any priests who has a son including St Augustine)

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