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ROBERT NUGENT RESPONDS TO BLOG READERS AND COMMENT MAKERS.

PAT SAYS,

I want to ask readers to address Robert’s views – and not to attack his person, his family, or his employment.

When you launch a personal or ” ad hominem” attack on someone, you are being illogical and lose the argument.

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I said on the blog the other day that I regard Robert as genuine and sincere. And I do.

I do not have the same approach to faith and Catholicism as Robert has.

Robert is looking at the hierarchy and clergy from the outside.

I’ve been on the inside for 52 years now – longer than Robert has been alive – 6 years in seminary and 46 years as a priest.

First of all, we must distinguish between the Church as the Bride of Christ and People of God – and the man made institution that has evolved under the power of politics, power, greed,and corruption.

The Churh, the mystical body of Christ – has always been pure – as it operates under the will and grace of God and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

But the problem was that after Jesus left, the Church fell into the hands of men – and men who did not faithfully follow the mind and teaching of Christ, but who began to introduce the ways and thinking of the world.

1. Jesus never intended the leader of the Church at Rome to replace the old Roman emperors.

2. Jesus never intended His Church to become a state with ambassadors to the secular states of the world.

3. Jesus never intended His Church to found a bank to launder money for the world’s rich and corrupt.

4. Jesus never intended His disciples to rape children, women, and men.

5. Jesus never intended His Church leaders to cover up abuse, rape and corruption.

6. Jesus never intended His male disciples (priests) to assault and rape His female disciples (nuns).

People like Robert do not distinguish between these two “churches” and want us to deal with the hierarchy and clergy as if all this abuse and corruption is not there.

Surely, that is willful and sinful blindness?

And it’s not just the case of a few rotten apples in the barrell.

It’s the barrell that is rotten, and that is rotting any good apple 🍎 going into the barrell.

For example , a sincere young man going into Maynooth to serve God, ending up being serially seduced and turned into a homosexual predator.

WHAT TO DO?

1.PRAYER is talking to and listening to God. No third party is needed.

2. SCRIPTURE is the Word of God available for all to read. There are plenty of good commentaries to read to guide you. Then, take it to God in prayer.

3. As Catholics, we believe in sacraments. Find a church and a priest who will celebrate sacraments with you without a lot of legalistic strings attached.

101 replies on “ROBERT NUGENT RESPONDS TO BLOG READERS AND COMMENT MAKERS.”

Robert Nugent appears well intentioned but it is simply unrealistic of both himself and of the Roman Catholic Church to imagine that the rest of the world will simply forgive and forget the horrendous atrocities committed and subsequently covered up & combined with the blatantly unrepentant and vengeful demeanour of clerics and their supporters toward victims and survivors of RCC related abuse and wrong doing. From the Vatican downward, victims including abused nuns are ignored, censored, slandered, villified by RCC to protect their interests – the defamation of Dom Benedict Andersen in Ireland being one example of many outstanding cases.

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2.13am When are the Irish Bishops holding the long overdue public question and answer session on Irish tv to provide an update on the numerous outstanding and unresolved matters they are currently deflecting via various methods.

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Where did Robert study for his degree/degrees in theology?
If so does he have a specialism?
Is he someone of learning and rich pastoral experience?
How does he earn a living?

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Where did Jesus study for his degree/degrees in theology?
If so does he have a specialism?
Is he someone of learning and rich pastoral experience?
How does he earn a living?

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Yes Pat, I agree- he was God, but surely he would still have needed to learn theology to be a preacher?

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There is no reference to Jesus attending a rabbinic school in the NT.

But, at the age of 12, he did confound the Temple leaders with his wisdom.

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Jesus was not a Jew, you can not be a Jew and preach your own version of religion. That would be like endorsing the Protestant religion and acknowledging that it is even that, a religion. When it is not.

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Last question: we gathered he is a middle ranking employee of a business, which presumably is enough to know.

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Ref 3:03 Pat, share with us some of the biblical commentaries you have. Only one I use and it can be a bit difficult to understand at times is attached to the readings in the Universalis app. Dom Henry Wansborough today seems to take a slightly different view from you Pat, where you state Jesus knows so much because he is God. In todays Gospel commentary HW says there is sufficient evidence in the gospels to indicate Jesus may have be a pupil of John the Baptist who was a rabbi and then went on to be a rabbi himself. And that’s why he has such good command of the scriptures and can apply them to life in Galile in those early days. Makes sense.
For what it’s worth I also think, as he does, that Jesus while on earth was fully man. Not God. Probably heretical. It is the Resurrected Christ who is God, rememberd from the OT as Messiah and developed by the new Christian communities as they reflected on the historial Jesus for 30 – 90 years while developing the gospel narratives.
What happened over the next two hundred odd years is what turned a simple message of love and compassion for each other into a complicated and sometimes unbelievable ‘story’ of compulsory beliefs, which today has little or no meaing. RD’s and our PP’s harping back to the good old days of parish missions, rosary crusades, sodalities and novenas doesn’t cut it anymore.
Last night we were told that the healing miracles evident today in the Church’s ministry to the world is proof Jesus is alive and active. What miracles? Tell that to all who have suffered at the hands of the institutional church and been ostracized by its teachings as evidenced in your blog over the years. The Kingdom of Heaven is here and now. We struggle every day to be transformed human beings, reflecting on scripture for strength and assurance.

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Robert according to himself spent many years in the Legionaries of Christ until he saw the light so he must have received some theological training while there

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@3.18
Reread your comment and then think about +Pat’s ministry. He is a pure Catholic but could be accused of preaching his own version when in fact +Pat is pointing out the hypocrisy of the RCC. Now put Jesus in the role of Pat and Judaism in the role of RCC…

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I have read your comments but not watched the video so am responding to this
‘People like Robert do not distinguish between these two “churches” and want us to deal with the hierarchy and clergy as if all this abuse and corruption is not there.’
I find it contradictory that he is in many ways very critical of the church and yet, like so many, doesn’t reach the obvious conclusion – that it’s not what it claims to be. It’s the scam of branding again – people have bought the lie that ‘the’ church is original and best and of course this keeps them coming back for more crime and deviance.

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8:05 Spot on. The Church is not what it claims to be. You shall know them by their fruits or by their Tik Tok accounts #FintanMonahan

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‘One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.’
Carl Sagan

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I have no doubt Robert is sincere and genuine, and deeply desires the renewal of faith/catholicism in Ireland. I think Robert is very naïve in relation to the depth and extent of institutional corruption in the catholic church. Renewal, new springtime, new evangelization, etc, has been talked about for over 50 years. The so-called, ‘Derry earthquake’, illustrated spiritual hunger and not necessarily signs of an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. I consider the clerical fraternity the main problem inhibiting spiritual renewal. They are a major stumbling block in the lives of so many-especially victims/survivors of church abuse, directly abused by clerics or through clerical lackies on behalf of, or for the sake of clerics. Some survivors of clerical abuse have maintained their faith in Jesus Christ despite the institutional church. I believe Robert underestimates the rottenness of the institutional underbelly. He got a taste of it last February/March when the Thurles seminary scandal was raised- (Cover up includes those involved continued to be perceived as highly respected members of the cloth/ community regardless of victims family, Truth, or suffering of victims). The clergy are the last people to lead discussions on matters of sexuality, spirituality, or church renewal. They cannot give what most of them have not got! Sometime ago a priest working in America said to me, many of his friends were atheists and most of them are priests. Some survivors could give masterclasses on institutional church abuse. Many of us are experts through experience. Read church teaching on Social Justice. White collared crime, is not just sin-it’s CRIME! Covering up crime is criminal. Did it ever cross people’s minds the Holy Spirit may be using this blog/Bishop Pats ministry as a vehicle to bring about church renewal- by the way, Pat, I thought your ‘Pats says’ comments top class!

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Yes I believe that the holy spirit of God’s love is working in pat’s blog. Pat has known so much pain at the hands of the cover up pious speaking church.

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@ 8:30am
Much as I love Dear Patsy, I do not agree that the Holy Ghost is using this blog as a ministry to bring about Church ‘renewal’. There has been too much ‘renewal’ as it is and has it made any difference? NO, it’s time for a Return to Catholicism not the watered down version that has been foisted on us for too long. Now wait for the abuse I’ll get from the usual sources but who cares, a pox on the lot of them.

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@1.03
Does the renewal need to be in the masses of people or in the hearts of the individual? Do you know the intention of The Holy Spirit? I am certain that +Pat has ministered to lost sheep who have never wanted to be found by the RCC die to the pain the RCC (we) cause(d).

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Fair play to you Robert Nugent. You seem like a genuine, caring and compassionate man of God. You have more guts than all the Catholic Bishops in Ireland put together.
A gentle reminder: You directed your comments to MEN but there are also WOMEN following and commenting on Pat’s blog. The Hebrew word for man is ish, spelled aleph, yod, shin. Remove the yod and you have aleph, shin or esh, meaning fire. The Hebrew word for woman is ishah, spelled aleph, shin heh. Remove the heh and, once again, you have esh, meaning fire. From this we learn that there is a consuming fire in the heart of every man and woman.

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5.45
That’s funny but daft. It’s like saying human is spelt h u m a n. Take away the h u and n and you’re left with ma: every human is a ma!!!!

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Robert Nugent has taken the reality of the double lives & what’s going with the clergy and their cohorts several bridges too far into utter delusion. They should repay their outstanding debts to victims of their evil acts as church members are fooling no one with their fake 2 faced piety. Their laity headcount consists of some elderly, the rest being “friends with benefits”

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Forgive me, this is off today’s topic but I have just taken a look back at yesterday’s blog and would like to refer to a comment made by Anonymously at 10:44am. Quote….”How many on this blog know a priest who is just like Keenan: corpulent, fat, unhealthy, immature, loves dressing up and being the centre of attention.
Imagine the size of his coffin and spare a thought for the poor bastards who have to carry him.
Elsie finds clergy who look like this, don’t they all, repugnant and repulsive, he likes his clergy lean and keen and whole tolerant and indulgent concerning child abuse, clerical sexual predators, my God he has no time for a corpulent priest.
Why are priests so unhealthy?
So many of them in Brum – the fattest diocese in the UK – mind you Nursie is pretty cuddly himself!!
Good for this young man for calling this behaviour out – seen it happen many times a priest rubving inner thighs and thinking nothing of it – a sojourn in prison would do this reprobate a world of good – he’d come our reformed and thinner.”
Whoever is responsible for this outrageous comment should be utterly ashamed of himself/herself. What a despicable being you are. Reverse… and put yourself in this priest’s situation and tell us how YOU would feel if you saw a comment such as this being made on a public blog about YOU. Hang your head in shame after your insults and foul display.
The moderator, unfortunately is not moderating enough comments, this being one of many, on his platform.

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We might be more convinced that you actually disapproved of the comment’s content if you hadn’t taken the trouble to republish it in full and thus ensure it runs for two days instead of one.
You can actually be honest here that what you’re after is Keenan/Elsie/Nursey bashing, you know. 😂

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Most comnents so far are reasonably fair and well expressed. Some are difficult to embrace because of their TRUTH about clerical and church isdues. Robert Nugent is, I believe, a sincere, committed man re: faith, Catholicism and in evangelizing men. His Derry gathering recently was amazing and I think Robert has a great ministry in this area. God bless him. While I admire his constant reflections and his efforts to inspire others in renewal of their faith, I do not accept all that he preaches. There is a touch of evangelical zealotry about his pronouncements, with little room for the nuances of people’s lives. He preaches a certainty which most of us find too rigid, yet he is sincere in his beliefs. I don’t think Robert deserves the nasty, ridiculing and ugly criticism he receives. I admire Robert as I admire Pat, though I don’t always agree with him either. They both have different messages, challenges and graces to offer. Robert shouldn’t be cancelled because of his beliefs. He has a generous spirit and, like Our Blessed Lady, is constantly open to God’s spirit. God is doing great things through him. God is also working through Pat, albeit more controversially and working thriugh all who are open to him. I think Robert is well aware of the scandals and the rottenness within the Church: he has spoken about such in many of his videos. I think Pats followers dislike Robert because he is a powerful presence with a prophetic message through his you tube videos. Robert – kerp doing what you’re doing. Pat, keep doing what you’re doing but perhaps you might learn something from Robert if you truly listen to him. You both are challenging us in different ways and that’s good for all of us.

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10:01
Robert acknowledged on this blog, (see 17th February),’facing the evil in some Irish clergy requires a lot of preparation’. He also said he wasn’t prepared for ‘the depths of rot and decay which confronted him’. I’m sure he has wised up to some extent. Robert mentioned anonymous comment makers implying cowardice by their refusal to use their names. Comment makers post anonymously for a number of reasons. Some commenters know from direct experience, the rottenness of the underbelly in the catholic church. Some are catholic rejects, shunned by the institution considered a persona-non-grata for speaking out against church abuse. The last thing we need is more abuse from corrupt clergy or zealous lay catholics reading this blog by putting our names to posts. Why do catholic priests post but refuse to use their real names? After all, they are the professional catholic Christians.

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Reply to;
Anonymoussays:
Dec 11, 2022 at 2:05 pm
I suggest the reason why Roman Catholic priest’s who contribute to this blog, do so anonymously, maybe it’s because, they are not so idiotic as to place their heads on the block, so much for the Irish Roman Catholic church.
I can’t help but noticed since you brought the subject up, why YOU don’t state who you are, but, also use the anonymous handle.
(“People who live in glass houses should not throw stones”)

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@ 3:34
Queenievenus Pluto: I was being sarcastic. I know the reasons priests don’t post their own names. I’m a survivor of the RCC rotten underbelly. Are you not living in a glasshouse or is Queenievenus Pluto your real name…? I reckon you have reasons for not using your name which I respect as it’s your choice.

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1 – I welcome the revival in Derry (which doesn’t belong to the enclave) and have been offering Glory Be’s that it will grow well. RN should organise his presentation by logical threads and slow down his thick Canadian pronunciation so that we can judge his degree of sincerity (that’s practical and not ad hominem).
2 – Our Lady is not calling anyone to rejoin the enclave.
3 – Our Lady abhors infallibility.
4 – Our Lady hates it when an enclave casts insinuations about our baptism, our consciences, our conversion, our mission or our spirituality.

5 – Orientations and so called “attractions” are many. “Therapy” can’t have an outcome in mind: like Lily the Pink’s medicinal compound the recipient has to see for themselves what way they will develop. Chastity (which is disconnected from “teachings of The Church”) is offered to all, to be open to strengthening our neighbour’s integrity by our prayers in rough times for them.

Moralising is a poison that must not be kow towed to. The materialism, dominionism and gender ideology of JP II and the “Moral Majority” has resulted in hundreds of millions of lonely christians of opposite sex orientation and that billions of women and boys worldwide now live petrified.

Nugent and Parker should have transcribed their conversation so we could take it in. I think Nugent and Parker should also attend to the institutional church’s other intrinsic disorders as well.

About hurt: the Roman church hasn’t recovered from World War One yet (which came after “infallibility”) and most families are still in shock and shame over their losses in war and oppression.

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@ 10:15am Good post. I like your contributions.
Yea, Robert needs to organise his thoughts or presentation in a logical sequential manner. He’s a bit woolly, all over the place at times-no
offense intended-and a little repetitious which distracts from his message.

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Pat you are like an old drum and finally admit you are in the inside as once a Catholic always a Catholic.
The barrel is NOT rotten and that is facts as there are 1.5 Billion Roman Catholic and I could introduce you to many Good and Sincere within the organisation at all levels and you know you never mention your family have they all left this organisation somehow I think not.
Yes there are bad apples in the cart but we speak about the vineyard and we need to keep it fit for Mission.
You speak today about 52 years of your life that is more than half your life and surely you must have seen and met some Good Bishops and Clergy and here is a fact NO yes NO Roman Catholic Bishop has ever been nasty about Patrick Buckley but yes maybe about his actions.
The Roman Catholic Church will be here when we have all gone yes maybe in a different form but it will survive as Our Blessed Mother will assist us in the Mission of cleansing the rotton core.
Come HOME for Christmas

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@ 10:16am
OMG! Patsy here’s Netty on again with her numbers that she’s got off her usual source ‘Google’. I never cease to wonder that she has not choked on her never ending false piety and sanctimonious claptrap.

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Fr Michael Pfleger has his name cleared for the second time and is reinstated.
Remember all accused are innocent until proven guilty!
Pray for all falsely accused clergy

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Note no mention of praying for the victims of credibly accused/convicted clergy.
This comment is like that one of the guy trying to get cathbots to sign up for adoption at a so-called ‘pro-life’ demo.

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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Dec 11, 2022 at 10:17 am
I wish I felt as confident as you appear of Pflegar’s innocence.
I await SNAP’S assessment of his reinstatement.
The third man claimed that on two separate occasions Roman Catholic priest Father Pfleger sexually assaulted him at the rectory of the Roman Catholic church.
Pfleger is accused of FOUR incidents of sexual abuse.
The man decided to come forward after he saw media reports in 2021 about two brothers who claimed that Roman Catholic priest Father Pfleger sexually abused them some 40 years earlier.
The first two victims, brothers, both voluntarily submitted to polygraph examinations and passed. The brothers also presented evidence from a third victim who claimed that the Roman Catholic priest sexually assaulted him shortly after he turned the age of 18.
Their Attorney said, all of my clients presented credible and detailed evidence concerning the sex abuse.”
1)By Staff Reports • Published December 10, 2022 • Updated on December 10, 2022 at 6:06 pm

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10.49: Sir, you’re not Christian with that attitude. There are many who have been falsely accused. Hope you never have the misfortune. Your attitude stinks. WE’RE ALL INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY… A very noble principle.

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Madam to you. Your man Pfleger was “proven innocent” after an archdiocese panel found “insufficient reason to suspect” he was guilty of the sexual abuse allegations. Correct me if I’m wrong but this is the second time he has been “falsely accused”? The Archdiocese has found your man “not guilty”, not a court of law!

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Your daily reminder that the cult don’t understand that you can be credibly accused and remain legally innocent because ‘historic’ abuse rarely meets the evidential standard for a criminal conviction.
At this point some idiot will say ‘But what about all the priests who’ve been convicted,’ and prove they don’t understand that CONVICTED abusers are a tiny minority of abusers.

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11.30am What concern is RN’s sexuality to you, me or any of us? Do you fancy him? Is that why you want to know, to see if you are in with a chance? Is it to feed your fantasies? He may be gay, bi or straight, he is certainly flawed like me and the rest of us, doing his best to live his life as best he can. I am sure that like any good parent or teacher he hopes his children don’t copy whatever mistakes he may have made in life; any such good parent or teacher rejoices in seeing their charges advance further. I like the way he is respectful towards Pat Buckley despite PB’s allowing insults against RN on his blog, but then PB also allows insults and attacks made again himself which is to his own credit when trying to allow freedom of expression. Look after your own sexuality and stop concerning yourself with the sexuality of others.

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Pat & Rob show, coming to a station near you. That would be superb, because you could debate things and even though you would not agree would be giving different perspectives.

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9.52am
I prefer the pronoun ‘they’ if you don’t mind and darling, hang my head in shame, what is this medieval Ireland!! I’ve never hung my head in shame and ain’t gonna for you hun!!
Be a man, woman or trans and tell me which part should I be ashamed of?
Fr Keenan is corpulent – he is facing an allegation of sexual assault, prison would be reforming, he definitely come out thinner.
Elsie does prefer thinner clergy and is a fattist.
Nursie is cuddly and Brum clergy are the unhealthiest in UK – physically and morally.
I have spoken the truth – why do you strike me?
Ps. The best way to shut a thread down is to not reference again – printing it in full – delicious darling!!

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Robert Nugent seems like a nice fella who has something of a Messiah complex and loves the sound of his own voice and publicity.
It’s a modern disease it will pass!
Personally I think he’s repressed and one day will come out and then more publicity – Jeez your gay darling don’t shove it down our throats!

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God help Roberts children if they are homosexual, he will have them poor things brain washed.

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When I was accused of groping a 17yo I was automatically presumed guilty. Eventually the young chap then told the truth and that sexual contact between us was consensual. Innocent until proven otherwise.

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I detect a certain sensitivity towards Roberts background and degree of learning:
What does he do for a living? Is he a carpenter for instance?
Has he done any formal theological study?
BA or an MA or a doctorate perhaps.
Come on, don’t be shy, Robert et al are all into openness and transparency – what qualifies him to be a spokesperson for this renewal in Catholicism that he is spearheading- true he might be like Jesus but Jesus was God and he might be like Peter (unschooled and ordinary) or Paul (highly educated) but one suspects his training and knowledge are superficial and he prefers to talk rather than write and isn’t a coherent thinker – but ideal, if not perfect, for social media and You Tube.

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OMG. I’m just in from 2 masses and baptisms and have listened to Robert’s video. I read Pat’s commentary. Robert, what a foolish decision to have made. You know you’ll invite the most hateful and nasty comments against you. Pat’s theological and ecclesiological semantics are laughable and irrelevant, all purely self serving and a revisionism of Church doctrines. Robert, you know you have a huge following on your You Tube videos and are reaching into the hearts of thousands in a very positive, enriching and affirming way. You have much to offer, so don’t be disheartened by this blog. You’re disliked because you speak the TRUTH of the gospel message. Do not stop in your good and great work. Pat has his mission. Let him at it. Do not be bothered about other people’s snide, bullying, homophobic attacks on you and your family nor about their hatred of your conservative views and your love for the Latin Mass. Be yourself Robert. God be with you in all your work.

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No it wasn’t foolish, I’m called to engage with all people in Ireland. I’m a layman and I discerned well. We need to give healing and hope to a new generation and that can only be done be talking and helping. Christ’s mercy and Grace is for everyone and nobody is beyond his grace. Pat is actually a good man, he needs to see the change that is happening in Ireland.

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I have asked people not to comment on Roberts family or work.
I have deleted many over the top and personal comments against Robert.
I am open to listen to anything Robert needs to say to me.

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3.12: Ok Robert. You know you draw the wrath from a certain cohort of people. You did the last time you appeared on Pat’s blog and, whether you agree or not, you got very badly burned. Why? Because you failed to answer very legitimate questions asked of you. While I admire your work and see the value of your mission and appreciate the work you’re doing for men’s faith and spirituality, I am amazed that you’d want any nasty invective drawn to you or that you would want an extra audience. Haven’t you enough through your You Tube outreach? When you use language like “Im called to engage with all people in Ireland”, I am immediately put off by such assertions. Robert, why the need to keep saying Pat is a good man? We know you believe that!! Pat never needs anyone’s validation to know he’s a good man!! My earlier comment was written in support of your work as a result of the horrible nastiness directed against you. Now, I’m wondering what your real motivation is by this latest video! I’m afraid Robert while you may wish to engage with ALL, you don’t always LISTEN. We are living in very changed and changing times and all who care about Catholicism and Parish communities are tasked with keeping the memory of Jesus alive, relevant and vibrant. As you say, Christ’s grace and mercy are for everyone….Let’s get on with this task…Robert, there’s no virtuous merit in videoing yourself in making a case for or against this blog. It ecists for a specific reason, just as your videos do. Keep steady in your convictions. I still believe your decision to be a foolish one. Most of the comments prove my point.

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Welcome back robert.
Do you think that people with a paedohilia sexuality are and were drawn to the priest hood because it allowed them to be up on a pedestal gave them authority which no one dared question and access to children who were at their mercy. The latte late show on friday night was heart breaking at seeing lives ruined by paedophiles. Can you raise awareness to talk more about paedophilia and what can be done to erase the sexuality of paedophilia.

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YouTube; Watch this, Pat Buckley defames innocent deceased Priest.
See exactly what Robert Nugent thinks of Pat in February this year, despise his protestations to the contrary. This is not to say he may have had a change of heart since they both met. Of course people get hurt and, lash out, as we all do at times, with regrets at a later date.
In the above video he certainly seems to offering the olive branch.
I notice he appears to be banished to his car to record the video……
Decrevi Determined to be Catholic @thecatholicman
20.6K subscribers
3.1K views 10 months ago/February 2022

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Pat do you believe in reincarnation? I feel so bad for wanting to, I have terminal cancer and I’m scared I will never have or see life again.

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Collected

Reincarnation is not a Christian belief.

But the truth is we do not the details of what happens after death.

But we do believe life continues…

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Actually, there is evidence that early Christians did believe in Reincarnation. It’s certainly not alien to Christianity.

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@3.47 pm
Pat, we have all been here before. Yes we go to the next world once this life has ended. We then have another life here on earth, so on and so forth. Life is a cycle.

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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Dec 11, 2022 at 2:33 pm
How have you come to that conclusion?
It is very likely, none of us will ever know the real numbers of either sexual abuser Catholic priests or those sexually abused by Roman Catholic priests.
No doubt it is such a heinous crime to be accused of and be innocent.

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The change that is happening is Ireland, is that people are rejecting the RCC increasingly.
The referendums on gay marriage and abortion prove this.
Robert you are utterly out of touch.

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@3.44 pm
Thank goodness for that thinks Pat. The number of people who were taken in my Bill.

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8:19 If Bill Mulvihill or anyone else is unfortunate enough to be in a tent this weather, they won’t be alive much longer to bother anyone, it’s promised artic for most of the week.

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Who were the two fellow clergy that use to go cruising together. One was cautioned by the Police and was reported to the Bishop at the time? But yet, both continued their behaviour.

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3.55: You obviously know who they are if you seem certain that “they” continued to go” despite warnings…..Go on, do pray tell us..

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TOO BIG TO FAIL – “RUPNIK ABUSE OF ME”
“The canonical trial of Father Ivan Rupnik can be represented with the image of a bottle. The consecrated women of the Loyola Community, where the Slovenian Jesuit was confessor and spiritual director, found themselves victims of a man who was abusive and, at the same time, aware of his power. Indeed, one cannot count the friendships that Rupnik cultivated over the years. Too big to fail, whispers someone, here in the Vatican.” “The story is very reminiscent of that of Marcial Maciel Degollado. The only difference is that Francis calls himself, and is called, the one who fights for transparency in the Church and the fight against abuse.”
https://silerenonpossum.it/too-big-to-fail-rupnik-abuse-of-me/

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Patsy
Brendan Courtney has Linda Martin on Keys to your Life this evening.
Did you ever go dancing to Linda & her band Chips, back in the day?
Blast from the past!
A good Northern lass dun good for herself is our Linda.
🕺 💃 🍟

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11:19 Strange you would notice what’s on tv, Padraig, given your focus on Bishop Buckley’s blog, Padraig.

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I truly don’t know what some people find inspiring about Nugent. What draws them to him? He has zero charisma, is a poor speaker, and more a pious sentimentalist than anything else. His brand of Catholicism reminds me of the emotional faith that existed in Ireland fifty or sixty years ago.
He wouldn’t appeal to the intelligent.

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“Happy Christmas”.
If you are Jewish, “Happy Hanukkah”
“If you are a member of a CULT-
The End is Nigh”.

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Pat, I wonder if there’s as much to write in relation to Church of Ireland scandals as in RCC? Saw an article today about a Minister Adrian McLaughlin, in St. Colmans, Kikmury, up for defrauding his parish and a charity out of £10,000. Is there an equivalent of your style of blog in C of I?

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