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BISHOP ROBERT BYRNE – OTHER MATTERS ARISING.

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The controversy surrounding Bishop Robert is not by any means ended.

Another serious matter was made known to me yesterday, by two different sources, and I felt compelled to let the papal nuncio to the UK, Archbishop Claudio Gugerotti know about the matter, as it is most serious.

ARCHBISHOP GUGEROTTI

The complaint concerns a priest of another English diocese.

That priest has made his own bishop aware of the situation, and I’m told the priest’s bishop has been more than kind to him.

I have copied my letter to the papal nuncio to that other English bishop.

I do not know if the papal nuncio knew about this matter before hearing about it from me.

It is my belief that this matter should be immediately he made known to the police if it hasn’t been already.

In my opinion this matter requires a full police investigation

And I hope that no one in the English Catholic Church covers this one up !!!

I will not let it go and, if necessary, will make it public.

However, it is more appropriate that the English bishops, the papal nuncio, and the police deal with it.

125 replies on “BISHOP ROBERT BYRNE – OTHER MATTERS ARISING.”

Bishop Pat, Dracula is more likely to sunbathe than the bishops of England and Wales, and the Papal Nuncio deals with one of their own. It should be reported to the police, and they alone should investigate.

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We will wait and see if this serious matter will be dealt with in an open and transparent manner. Time will tell. Thanks for call it out Bishop Pat.

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Pat, you really scoop your stories. Tgese are fascinating intrigues. Wonder if we looked so closely at all cults or religious groupings will we find similar? Aren’t you lucky that your Independent Oratory didn’t multiply as I’ve no doubt you’d have had to deal with similar, albeit in a smaller scale. There’s something about power, celibacy and sexual desires that seems to create these miscreant personalities and dark secrets. God save us from inner corruption of the heart and spirit.

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Do not hold much hope on the Nuncio Bishop Pat .I wrote to him last month about an issue , and to date no reply .I know how the Institution works .I suppose that means there will be no reply .I think you should give him a time limit to respond as if not it will only be giving him a chance to cover up , or head for the bunker .

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A Priest.
Sorry that you have to try and discredit Archbishop Claudio however his credability is much higher than you would expect he is going to be a Prince of the Church he leaves in Three weeks.
Archbishop Claudio is NOT allowed to reply due to the nature of his role in the Church however be reassured he would have read it and dealt with it.
Email him to see if he has got it
nuntius@globalnet.co.uk.

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I am sick of my colleagues scandalous behaviour. Any wonder, us clergy, have a bad reputation and name. I have another bloody funeral today, why do so many people die in winter?

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I am freezing, me and my kids have been in bed for days because we have no gas in the house, it’s the only way to keep warm

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My children are not of school age, please ridicule the poor from your armchair in your warm mansion.

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bloggers Jim S is NOT interested in this blog at all he has moved on with His Partner and very happy and currently in the Gran Canaria
You need to get over Jim S
Jim S is a “Firm” guy and will have nothing said against it.

Poor Bella cannot get over Jim S and constantly mentions him.

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@ ‘2:17pm
OMG! Patsy she’s at it again, I can’t get over the fantastic fantasy’s she creates for herself. In Gran Canaria with her partner!🤣🤣🤣 more like she’s in South Beach at Asda oggling the trolley boys. A “Firm”guy, the firm as she calls it wouldn’t have anything to do with her. Let us pray for this poor demented soul whose mental health is getting worse by the moment.

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10.27
Thy all dream about Jim S and cannot get him out their mind and his Partner is a member of the Clergy as they have double standards.

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@ 2:23pm
Nobody’s dreaming about Jim S more like having nightmares, the fact that he’s posted this comment about himself says it all. To say that he has a partner who is a member of the clergy is ludicrous and shows he has no standards.

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Homosexuals will be just that, homosexuals. You can not expect these men to behave themselves, they are sexually repressed. Albeit self inflicted.

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Only RC priests suffer homosexuality in the worst and most pervert ways.
I have friends and colleagues who are homosexual, but not perverts.
And some are married to women, but not because been locked with some unfulfilled bitchy housewife, simply because love does not recognize gender.

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Why do you tust the church to deal with this ?They have already wanted to cover it up by presenting the resignation other then what it is .The Nuncio will do sweet FA , and make shore evidence is lost etc .

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However, it is more appropriate that the English bishops, the papal nuncio,—-deal with it ” No hope + Pat .They will protect the institution at all costs , and do everthing to protect Bishop Billy Bunter .

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+Pat could you find the answer to this very important question .” Is the Bishop still considered a Priest in good standing with the Church ?”

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Good morning Bishop Buckley.
It never ceases to amaze me, your journalistic skills and information gathering.
Byrne is dead in the water, never was a nice man, these revelations will surprise nobody that knows him personally.

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Conor, you were in seminary with Eugene O’Neill and have remained very good friends after, despite moving to Merseyside, can you offer us an insight into why Eugene was held back a year?

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I thought you had left your role Conor? You and Eugene were as thick as thieves alright, always messing about and giggling, I never could quite grasp what you two had in common.

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8.23 I’ll be a monkey’s uncle. A man of the cloth using his real name. I commend you Father. Now go and tell all your cohorts on this blog to man up and do the same.

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I have known since the early nineties that the ‘traddies’ associated with Oxford (and not just the Oratorians) were not what they seemed, despite having taken in some honest souls.

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Pat, how do we go about getting rid of the priest that was thrust upon us in August, who has not settled in and is upsetting all us parishioners?

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9:25
Another example of my arse diplomacy ministry in action. Try a letter to a local newspaper or post it on a social media platform(s).

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9.30: However disreputable some members of the Royal Family may be, the Meghan and Harry circus is abhorren, supporting abortion and their so called care for the earth…. They are a useless pair….trotting world stages moralizing and lecturing us. If they gave quarter of their fortunes to Africa they’d help millions. Their “all about me” dramas are pathetic…

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So much in Brum not what it seems – that’s how they rock – and Oxford clergy see themselves as elite, superior and very very gay.
The nuncio will do nothing – he got his scalp and will move on – if the allegation against Byrne involves the police then we’re v likely in the realm of consent v non consent or underage sexual activity – what has Byrne done or has been involved in – the truth will out and if not the truth – the police and a criminal investigation.

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Pat you need to tell us more. Serving us crumbs is not enough. Reporting crimes involving RCC clergy is a matter of urgency and public safety. Release the Kraken.

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Ahh no….not another victim of church abuse….a generous amount of rope might be in order… for now…softly..softly..catchee…..

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5:47
Ahh….no…why no mention of a fizzy drink to wash down the chips and battered sausages…known ways to a man’s or woman’s heart…dating favorites in a number of Irish Dioceses…often resulting in love at first bite…..I’ll have you know….

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Surely not another Kitty as though one was not enough.
The Diocese of H & N will need to pay for Byrnes upkeep and any costs he has as a Bishop Emeritus even if he serves at teh Oratory.
The only way Byrne will not be kept to a high standard is if he resigns as a Bishop and returns to teh Clergy ranks and he is not going to do that so it is important people speak out and francis will sack him.
Archbishop Gugerotti is no fool and never went amony them yesterday at the ordination of Collins he sent his First secretary and that is unusaul as he likes to attend.

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I thought a blog piece on the renegade nurses that are lit striking today would have been fitting. Greedy the lot of them

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I think in order to fund the black hole, left by Truss & Modo, we slash the wages of NHS staff, they say nursing is a vocation just like Priesthood, well let’s see how many are still in vocation when they are paid the minimum wage and no incentives for night or weekend work.

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REPLYto;Ban Trade Unionssays:
Dec 15, 2022 at 12:30 pm
When nurses get the same benefits, plus a salary, as Roman Catholic priests which include, from free housing, a private health scheme and a group car insurance scheme, plus pension, AND, receive voluntary donations for simply doing what they were trained for, which Roman Catholic priests receive for administering, viaticum, baptism, marriage, death.
Sure, wouldn’t it be great!
There would be no need for striking, however nurses live in the real world. I support them 100% the only problem is the strike has come too late for so many nurses, this action should have been carried out 50 years ago, a generation of NHS staff lived on a pittance, and many ended up with industrial injuries.

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Pat, I’ve been thinking again recently about the bribe offered you by Bishop Cahal Daly, a huge sum of hush money, (£250,000 in five £50,000 instalments) and which you turned down, even though, being human, you must have been tempted to accept.
Why have I been thinking about it? Because these RC clerical headlice make your moral integrity all the more remarkable! Frankly, RC priests disgust me.
Isn’t there something in Psalms about the just man and his unimpeachable character? When I read such lines, I cannot help but think of you.

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bishoppatsays:
Dec 15, 2022 at 10:25 am
Pat you are a rare oddity amongst priests, refusing large sums of money is an anomaly in the Roman Catholic priesthood. The old saying when they are offered money for some deed, which should be unnecessary, really rings true.
“Sure they’d take the hand off ya”
They say every man has his price, until you meet a stubborn one.

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I was offered £ 50,000 a year for 5 years if I went away and studied and promised an important appointment on my return.
I asked for the offer in writing, and this was refused.

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Hold on, Benedict has had his Georg with him for decades. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Maybe Longley and Dominic work well together. So, why break up what works ? Just saying, like….

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I guess + Pat’s tactic of waiting for the alleged victim to take the matter forward, presumably to the police / safeguarding people, is a sensible one. However, if that does not happen, and if + Pat has information that indicates some sort of alleged wrongdoing, then he will have to report it to the police / safeguarding people himself. Remember, it was clergy and ex-seminarians who brought down O’Brien in the end. It took time, but the hurt was evidently festering for a long time, and eventually it came out. If there is something questionable in + Byrne’s past, distant or recent, it will out. The manoeuvrings that are currently going on – + Byrne’s resignation, the silence of the Nuncio, + Pat’s interest – are all part of a process that will hopefully see the truth out. That is the way it has to be. + Byrne, Nuncio, bishops of E&W, Pope, Vatican, whoever…there is no room for coverup. Those days have gone.

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The police won’t act unless the actual alleged target reports a crime. It’s frustrating but I imagine in the case of a possible sexual assault that’s the only way it’s likely to get to court and a conviction.
However it’s also important not to forget that it’s incredibly difficult for victims to report.

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The RC church has an exemplary record in being transparent and thorough when dealing with serious, safeguarding issues. I imagine the nuncio will not have time to contact Pat as he will busy with his investigations and helping the police with their enquiries.

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What planet do you live on ? The default position of the RCC is to hide, deny and coverup, and only after much pressure will they do the right thing. So, it’s good that the likes of + Pat keeps on the pressure, so that in the end they will come around to transparency and honesty. Gugerotti is a company man through and through, otherwise he would not be the nuncio and he would not be heading to Rome to head up a big job and office. He will do things in the way he was trained by the Vatican diplomatic corps – do as little as possible, delay as long as possible, coverup, deny, don’t admit anything, do everything as discretely and quietly as possible, fool people, lie. All to protect the Church. So, don’t expect much from Gugerotti. Put your trust in + Pat to uncover the uncomfortable truth which must out and come to the light.

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All to protect the clerical caste through their my arse- as in- covering my arse/ministry of diplomacy.

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It would appear you haven’t been keeping up to date with my opinion of the RC church but then again, why would you? I believe th RC church is rotten to the core an if the Nuncio is busy at all, it will be trying to bury whatever it is that Pat has presented him with.

And to be honest, no person in their right mind could accuse the RC church of being transparent.

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10.39am
Er, so you agree, things are not as they appear, Benedict and Georgie are an item, so too Nursie and Dominic, only problem is their state in life is supposed to be non exclusive and a vocation to serve the people of God, not their own sexual/emotional preference.
Plus Dominic is a relatively young priest and when his love affair with Bernard is over he’ll have to get his hands dirty and be an assistant or parish priest – private secretaries are short term appointments when longer (13 years) suspicions are raised.

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Oh, please ! Longley and Dominic are not in a romantic relationship. It’s a practical arrangement that appears to work, that’s all. Anyhow, I doubt if either of them have the mojo to be able to raise a gallop of the heart or the loins, anyway. More like two old spinster ladies being companionable.

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10.25am
Pat they’re not canonising you they’re expressing their thanks for your ministry and in a way God – not to us, not to us O Lord give glory, but to your name.
No harm in letting your light shine it leads to thanks to God.

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CLOSING OF JESUIT ABUSE CASE LEFT VICTIMS FEELING BETRAYED, EXPERT SAYS
(VATICAN CITY)
Reuters [London, England]
December 14, 2022
By Philip Pullella.
“One of the Catholic Church’s top sexual abuse experts has called for a review of how his own Jesuit order and the Vatican handled allegations against an internationally known priest and artist. The case of Father Marko Ivan Rupnik has rattled the Jesuit order, of which Pope Francis is a member, and prompted criticism of the Vatican doctrinal department for not pursuing it further. “I can understand how victims feel betrayed,” Father Hans Zollner, a member of the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors and the head of Rome’s Gregorian University Centre for the study of abuse, told Reuters.” “For the sake of transparency, we need to know who knew something, what and when, and what happened after that,” Zollner said. “We could have found out about the different levels of responsibility, which could have prevented all of this,” he said, referring to the 2021 complaint.“I ask myself, and I ask my community, the Jesuits: Who could have known? Who did know? Who perceived something was wrong and did not go further?” Zollner said. Asked about the 1998 complaint, Father John Dardis, the Jesuits’ spokesman, told Reuters that the order had looked into reports about it but had found “nothing in the files”. Zollner said: “Probably we will never know. In most cases there are no documents.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/closing-jesuit-abuse-case-left-victims-feeling-betrayed-expert-says-2022-12-14/

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Yesterday’s ordination ceremony of Peter Collins was dire. It lacked joy, any hint of celebration, or holiness for that matter. He sat in his Chair to thank everybody and did so very formally. As he processed away from the altar at the end of the service he stopped by the Lord lieutenant and bowed to her. The whole ceremony was stuffy. It was dire. I feel sorry for any energetic priests in the diocese. How on earth did he become a Bishop?

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2:25 Well these people don’t believe the religion and are unlikely to pull on Grindr so they have to get their jollys somewhere.

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@2:25 pm I am very well aware of that. What a foolish comment to make in response to serious commentary.

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They covered him with so much baby oil too. Looked like something you’d expect to see in the boiler house.

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1.56pm
Was Robert Byrne there or was he conspicuous by his absence?
Sad to hear your account – it’s a metaphor for English Catholicism I fear – joyless, lifeless and bowing to the state in abject reverence.

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Pat, I get it that you see this as a very serious matter when others have decided to attack a previous blogger aka Jim S they need to get a life.

Internal Papal Nuncio for GB is nuntiusgb@gmail.com so if important send any communications to that email address

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@ 2:2pm

No Jim , you need to get a life, you seem to spend all your time looking up email addresses and annoying these poor Nuncios and imploring others to contact them too. Take your own advice and get a life.🙄

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2.27pm
On what do you base your surprise? You don’t know me, so why tge surprise? If you don’t know something then you don’t know something – I sus there are things you don’t konw (sus in this context is ‘suspect’’)

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Is it a mistake to trust the victim here will be left free to act ?
We all know how the Church acts in such cases .The support will be
the Church helping him not to go public , keep it in house , and
not say a word openly about it .The church will have no intention of suporting the victim to go to the police .

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I see Bishop Keenan wrote a book of rosary meditations illustrated by Fr Mario Rupnik SJ, who is currently under a cloud. We should pray for them both at this time.

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“Cyberpunksays:
Dec 15, 2022 at 10:53 am “-What planet are you living on ?
Not planet earh that experiences every day how the evil
Holy Mother Church acts .

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3,32pm
Calm down dearie – I’m pretty sure Benedict and George isn’t sexual too – just two old gay spinsters enjoying eac others companionship but is that why Dominic was ordained to be a companion for an old Queen? Seriously not right darling – and why so sure not sexual or erotic is some way – you can’t know that – what I do know is Dominic has been Nursies private secretary for 13 years and the optics scream this is weird plus wonder what his Dad thinks of his son being Nursies spinster companion?

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Pat do you know of any priests that currently go cottaging? Are clergy being more careful or are they just staying away?

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Yes, I do. Not so much cottages, they are all closed these days. But lay-bys and woods etc. Very entertaining. Bit cold though these past few days. Always popping in and out. A wonderful diversion from the nause of parish life. You should try it sometime.

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5.48: LIAR and LIAR. You are evil. Pat is more vile for printing such lies and caricaturing. You are depraved and a pervert.

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Oooohhh @ 6:43 – evidently a touchy subject with you. What are you transferring ? I usually find that such angry vehemence is a cover for something or other. Maybe we have met in the woods / lay-by ? You do find angry self-loathing types like you there. But, needs must, I guess…..

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7.29: You need to go back to psychology classes. When your type are challenged about lies, you resort to the word “transference”. May I suggest you re-read your psychology notes. They might help explain your ignorance.

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Private Seán Rooney from Donegal murdered by Hezbollah (or one of their factions) while serving in the UN Peacekeeping Force. No peace with terrorists including Hezbollah’s allies in Gaza, Syria, and the Islamic Rep. of Iran. ETERNAL rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace. Amen.

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PAGLIA USED CHARITY FUNDS TO RENOVATE APARTMENT
Hundreds of thousands were paid to a contractor instead of going to missionary and charitable projects. Paglia claims they were repaid; while others cry foul.
The Pillar
Dec.14 2022.
” Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia diverted hundreds of thousands of euros allocated to support missionary and charitable works while he served as president of the Pontifical Council for the Family. Paglia used much of the money to finance building projects in Rome, including the renovation of his personal apartment, The Pillar has learned. According to multiple independent sources with knowledge of the events, Archbishop Paglia confirmed in a 2015 memo to Holy See financial officials that hundreds of thousands of euros had been paid to an Italian construction contractor instead of going to missionary and charitable projects to support poor families and orphans.”
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/paglia-used-charity-funds-to-renovate-personal-apartment/

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Hi Fr Arnie,
How’s it feel to have your ex back in Shannon?
I wonder would she like to be on Pat’s blog?

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