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ROBERT BYRNE ALLEGATION REPORTED TO THE POLICE.

BYRNE

REPLY FROM ARCHBISHOP MC MAHON

PAT SAYS

It is nice to see a prelate like Archbishop Malcolm respond swiftly and with such positive information.

And ++ Malcolm is big enough and confident enough not to engage in any pettiness with regards titles, etc.

It is good that the Robert Byrne allegations will be examined by the police and Vatican.

Let us hope and pray that Truth and Justice will be done.

LUCY NOT HAPPY WITH “SIR”

SR RITA RIP

MY REPLY TO LUCY

197 replies on “ROBERT BYRNE ALLEGATION REPORTED TO THE POLICE.”

Hello Pat and all my blog friends- good Christmas cheer to you, and I will raise a glass for you all at my local tomorrow morning. I see I was mentioned on the blog yesterday and as was pointed out, I’ve not been here in a while. Another stomach pumping episode, I’m afraid. Bit under the weather for the last week or so, but at least I enjoyed getting that way, and now I am fixed up and ready to go again. As usual the nurses were brilliant- you couldn’t pay them enough. Some anxiety for my liver, but YOLO after all- and I will eventually party with the angels. Wishing you all festive cheer and will have a toast in your honour dear Pat!

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Tell us you don’t understand human health behaviours without telling us you don’t understand human health behaviours.

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Thank you for saying my comment isn’t rubbish. (Didn’t think that one through, like everything else in your life, did you). 😂

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10.41: I agree. I have zero sympathy for Eamon. If he is “serious” about his alcoholism he should not be revealing his outrageous, selfish and reckless behaviour, almost in a boastful manner: in and out of a hospital like a yo-yo, draining nurse’s valuable time for more genuine patients. His presence in this blog is an enabler of his fast one way ticket to death.

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If eamon had to pay each time to get his stomach pumped he would quickly sober up. Get a dog and walk the legs of it or a hobby

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He should get ordained then the ‘faithful’ can pay for him to keep getting dried out in Washington or Jimini Springs.

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12:04 Your subject is unrelated to today’s blog post. Do please try to stay on message.

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11.37: how nonsensically stupid is your respinse. As it happens I am not a cleric (11.26).. 😂😁😂🤣😂😁….Are you a boozer too?

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You would think the holy Roman church would have done one of the charitable interventions they’re always on about to relieve the poverty. Like the government, it’s not like they don’t have the dosh.

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Wow, what a disgraceful situation with bishop Billy Bunter and how courteous of Archbishop Malcolm to respond. Miss Lucy is an arrogant nun referring to a deprived area as a slum.

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It is refreshing to read a mature and proactive response from Archbishop McMahon. Sister Lucy has let herself down and the tone of her communication speaks volumes and not good ones. Que sera sera.

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Rest in peace Sr Rita. Sister Lucy is a cover up merchant. Common knowledge. Obliging of her to write to the blog to provide a permanent record of this FACT.

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Lucy, you would be better off looking after your children than constantly giving off on this blog

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“It is nice to see a prelate like Archbishop Malcolm respond swiftly and with such positive information.”
Malcolm’s swiftness is in complete contrast to Tom Deenihan who dillied and dallied for two months before reporting to the Gardaí. Tom even took the step of confirming Dom Mark as Prior before reporting the harassment to the Gardaí. How could Tom Deenihan report allegations of misconduct to the Gardaí while confirming the accused in a leadership position?
The Abbey of Saint Joseph de Clairval should withdraw their support of the Silverstream charade. Dom Benedict Andersen is the rock on which Silverstream could be rebuilt. Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Anything otherwise will be like rebuilding Silverstream on sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.

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I’m not as bothered by your obsession with Deenihan as I am with your setting up Anderson as the messiah.
He is presumably an intelligent man and so wouldn’t be fool enough to agree to return to Sodastream, where his card will be well and truly marked.

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Oh dear! Is Miss Lucy a… liar? Would a holy nun knowingly tell untruths? Could she, as a bride of Christ? 😮Because, Pat, if your information source in Salford is as reliable as you believe, then (Oh! I can barely bring myself to say this.) it may be that Miss Lucy is… telling porkies to cover Arnold’s skinny ass! 😰
And to think I had such deference for Catholic religious and clergy, especially the most holy bishops.
Now don’t be cynical. I did… I mean I do… have respect for these people. God’s chosen ones. 😇
Maybe Miss Lucy is just missing the big picture. Maybe she’s, um, factually challenged. Which, of course, would have her miss the mark here, even by the proverbial mile. And through no fault of her own. Naturally. Now THIS is a much pleasanter penseé than believing she might willingly be disseminating misinformation for Mr Arnold, not to mention for his unmentionable part.

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Shocking isn’t it? And we all felt so sorry for the bishops when they sat in the dock and swore they didn’t know child abuse was illegal.

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I’m glad that Bishop Byrne is being investigated but cautious McMahon willl follow through – he ordained Jolley and find it hard if not impossible to believe he’s an impartial judge of such matters – he’s a notoriously clumsy and gauche prelate (notwithstanding his polite response to Pat).
Feel sorry for the priest – the victim – the pressure willl be on for him to withdraw his allegation and of course all sexual predators know the threshold for evidence is high in criminal proceedings and unless substantive the case won’t see the light of day.
Personally I’d love to see an English bishop in gaol – it would send a message for a societal group who see themselves as above the law.
As for Sr Lucy – clearly Sr Rita was despatchrd by Arnold – Sr Lucy is rattled and classicaly imperious in her tone – a device of many nuns, a nod, I feel to her repressed dominatrix (she knows it, we all know it).
Arnold is rattled too and tge witch-hunt is on to find who blew the whistle..

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@ 8.16
There certainly will not be any desire for Archbishop Malcolm to withdraw his complaint and as stated it has been sent to the Police.
Give credit where credit is due Archbishop Malcolm has contacted the holy See for permisson to hold an investigation which should be granted quite quickly by Cardinal Ouellet or Cardinal Parolin then sent to the Holy Father Francis for the outcome.
Anyone involved in the Tribunals only wants Justice and I am sure you will find that hard to believe but it is a fact and remember tribuls are a mixture of Clergy and Lay Faithful and well trained.
The sitution in Canon Law like Civil Law is the complainer and witnesses need to stand by their accusations and not stop in the middle and i know cases that they even say they never said that but it is all recorded.
I personally think the Priest should stand aside while the investigation takes place and I think the Priest is the victim but it will be very challanging on him and the witnesses but God willing he will have the strength to see it through and byrne is kicked out by Pope Francis.
If you look at killaloe Bishop Fintan wants Ger and Gerry out but Canon Law is in place and hopefully removed 2023

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12.52
Give us a break, Jim S. There are times when Bela’s nonsense is less irritating that yours.

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He said mass without wearing a maniple, punishable by execution.
This is what happens when you let religious nuts dictate the law.

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11:11am

The religious nuts are dictating the law and these woke nutjobs if you don’t agree with them will be out to get you. Hence Byrne’s predicament judged guilty and we don’t even know what the allegation exactly is.

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For ease of reference, here are the rules for handling such cases, as set out in ‘Vos estis lux mundi’.
Interesting to read about the scope, timings for investigation, their definition of “vulnerable person” and the role of a metropolitan bishop.
I suspect that their definition of “vulnerable person” means that Robert Byrne CO will get away with it.
https://m.vatican.va/content/francescomobile/en/motu_proprio/documents/papa-francesco-motu-proprio-20190507_vos-estis-lux-mundi.html

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Will he? delicts against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue consisting of:
i. forcing someone, by violence or threat or through abuse of authority, to perform or submit to sexual acts.
Surely a bishop molesting a priest is an abuse of authority. Where is Bunter living?

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10:52 Do you know of a single case where a bishop has been punished by the church for these delicts without being pushed by negative publicity?
I think Byrne will end up in retirement unless he is found guilty of a crime, like O’Brien.

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I would have thought it makes it LESS likely +Byrne would get away with it. “Vos estis” firstly specifically allows for abuse of adults to be considered when there is an imbalance of power eg. Lecturer & Uni student, Bishop & parish priest. The definition of a vulnerable person as “any person in a state of infirmity, physical or mental deficiency, or deprivation of personal liberty which, in fact, even occasionally, limits their ability to understand or to want or otherwise resist the offence” is referring to the victim, not the perpetrator….

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Pat, I am delighted as we approach the Celebration of the Birth of Our Lord we have one Good Prelate to your likes but this time next week he will likely be Maria or Mitilda or some female name who knows
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This must be getting taken very serious as even with Cardinal Keith Patrick O’brien there were NO Police involvement so it is very serious.
No Good Bishop of the RCC wants the bad apples no matter of the rank of the clergy they do not want them and that includes the daisy Chains and all the others that are up to NO good.
The problem in Canon Law is there needs to be proof and stand up and God willing this Priest will stand up and others come forward but the problem is “oh do not say I told you” syndrome or I never said that and it will not stand up and therefore the Bishop is reported for action against the Clergy.
There are many hard working dedicated Clergy in the RCC but the one bad apple starts to rot the cart but the younger / newer Bishops will take action (except what looks like by Bishop Tom D).
I pray for all involed as it is very difficult it what seems to be a horrible nasty case but I have Faith in Archbishop Malcolm and the Holy See and Justice will be done.

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Fr Charles Sobhraj did speak out publicly about this, and look where he has ended up. Is keeping silent better?

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Where did he end up? Back in France or is he residing in Asia still? He has heart issues though.

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You have to love this blog. Nobody else could have even started fantasizing about the bishop becoming Matilda when they started reading today’s post.

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@ 9:34am
OMG! Patsy you know who imparting her unwanted wisdom yet again! Don’t be taken in by McMahon the fact that she’s on first name terms with him means I have no faith in him and as for the Unholy See where I’m sure you know there will be no justice unless it suit them🙄

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Bishop Pat, without your blog, one wonders if Bunter would have gotten away with this as was desired. It demonstrates what an enormous contribution you make to holding the RCC accountable.

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I see on the BBC today, that a Ukrainian woman and her son are looking for a new sponsor because their original didn’t work out. I am glad to see that I’m not the only one it didn’t work out for, you always hear the Ukrainian story but not the sponsors. After finding out that the family I sponsored – son – was an arsonist, I then caught my husband and the mother sleeping together. I really hope you all have had a better experience than me, and hope I’m in the minority.

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185 cases in NI alone, which amounts to 847 people left dumped by families in NI – surely they all aren’t sleeping with the husbands or setting fire to everyone’s houses

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Robert Nugent has again defended himself against mounting criticism on the blog regarding his views on hot young men masturbating. He said Mother Mary has set him a task and he intends to complete it.

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I told Martin OHagan years ago that I was attacked on school grounds and in a car by a priest and he never did a thing about it.

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Anyone who truly knows fr Martin would doubt this accusation.
Please don’t write comments like this, people’s lives are easily destroyed, due to comments like these.
Bring your accusation to the proper authorities and let truth and justice handle it.

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Who is the new ‘Delia Neeson’ that is attending every event and place that Paddy McCafferty is going to? I just say, he’s a lot better looking than Fr Neeson.

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11:08 Chaperones for clergy in public is common practice these days, allocated by Bishops to those with most to hide. Lawyers and accountants provide guidance, God is just the front to fool the sheep into funding the party games.

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Pat, please don’t allow negative comments about Fr McCafferty today. He is a much liked and loved priest in the parish and has not had an easy life.

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Where is Bishop Byrne now?
Wonder what the view is in Brum? He is their man and a product of that deliciously dark and nefarious diocese – I’d say they knew he was a bit of a perv and nuisance.
A sensuous man who enjoyed the trappings of office – food, property and power – oh and sleep, he loved his bed – wonder what the details are: can’t be rape he hasn’t the energy but whatever it is definitely non consensual.
O please God we will see him in court – this much I know – the bishops will be dropping him like a hot stone!!

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Don’t speculate until the man has been found guilty. It’s very lower middle class of you. When I was accused of non consensual sex with a young man it nearly ruined me. Let it run its course

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Given Byrne’s obesity and slothfulness, it must have been an unwanted advance. I hope he is not at the Oxford Oratory, as he would be a danger to the young men there.

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You can not say that because one is fat that others would not find him attractive. That will be unlawful in years to come to be outright bigoted as you.

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Desire for sex, performance, and enjoyment can nosedive. Many simply avoid sex altogether, new research shows. In fact, morbidly obese people are 25 times more likely to report problems in their sex lives, compared with normal-weight people.

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The view in Brum is that he’s an Oratorian and I didn’t appoint him as a bishop so you should ask the Oratorians and nuncio. And this is official.

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It’s really worrying the state of Robert Nugent’s mental health, for example he did a video at 2am and said that the Virgin Mary told him in prayer that Bishops and Priests must be formed again like in the womb. Other times he says that Jesus talks to him in prayer.
Too much of anything is bad for you and his obsession with the religion is really unhealthy, especially when he backs up the hateful homophobic elements of the CC.
I hope he seeks some professional help because it’s not normal to be hear from the Virgin Mary and Jesus while praying.

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Fr Kylian M’Bappe, the Abbey of Saint Joseph de Clairval support for the Silverstream charade could get very Messi! A bad week for France could get a lot worse.
Whatever about the golden boot, Dom Benedict is mightier than Tom Deenihan, whose sandals Tom is not worthy to carry.

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Reply to;
Fr Kylian M’Bappesays:
Dec 23, 2022 at 11:24 am
Unfortunately prayers are not going to be the cure for his condition. He appears to have a serious health problem, which needs to be managed. Surely his wife and, family must notice his delusional state, or, maybe they too believe his outrageous pronouncement i.e his contact with the B.V.M
“More to be pitied than laughed at”

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11.03: I share the same concern about Robert. Most good men – husbands – should be at home with their wife and family at 2.00am and not sitting in a car telling us that Our Lady is speaking to him….I find all his videos of recent times to be very OTT and questionable. Very worrying that he is presenting videos 3/4/5 times daily…

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This is what belonging to a cult does to you, you have to just keep going and can never stop.

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As the wise man said, if you want something done, ask a busy person. There is no fear of Robert. It are some of those who are receiving the message that have had their feathers ruffled. They are proverbially electing to bite the hand that is feeding them. A common trait in today’s modern day feminist secular society.

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I find Robert comical. I know he doesn’t mean to be, and I know I shouldn’t laugh at him, but…
Let me tell you a tale, a true anecdote. I was once acquainted with a guy who claimed Jesus spoke to him. Now, he was utterly sincere, so I quickly ruled out any attempt at deceit and attention-seeking.
On one occasion, he showed me his medication. (Unsolicited, I assure you.) I made a mental note of some of it, and I looked it up when I returned home. Sure enough, as I suspected, he was on psychiatric meds. A huge red flag, but I still didn’t know the nature of his illness.
A few years later, he died. And during his funeral oration, the mystery of his condition was solved: my friend had been a chronic schizophrenic, which, of course, accounted for the voice of Jesus he claimed to hear.
I have no doubt we’ll hear a similar story about Robert Nugent in due course. And then won’t all those who put faith in this fellow feel very foolish indeed?
Thankfully, I put no faith in my schizophrenic acquaintance. I put NO at all faith in those who talk such rampant balderdash.
The religious are natural-born nutters, susceptible to any old ethereal garbage.

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Robert is ok! It’s only when he starts hearing Jesus speaking to him from the tabernacle and publishes a book about it while having “whoopsie” moments with other men that you need to start worrying.

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11:30am Sure sign of a space cadet & Nugent is a self promoter who will do zilch for victims of church related abuse and criminality. Nugent & the Irish Bishops & their cohorts react to this blog like ping pong balls. Of course, Nugent deleted his 2am post once it was mentioned on this blog.

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Robert is doing Gods work and deserves credit. If he wants to stay up all night to do it then so be it. He once stayed awake an entire weekend for a vigil to Our Lady

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Wasn’t RN once an Oblate of Silvertream Priory and a friend / disciple of Mark Kirby ? Maybe that is where his problems began

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Bill really lost the plot on here. I don’t miss his comments at all. At least he is in the Canaries with his tent. For he would freeze to death over here in his tent.

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Pat are you into real crime movies or series? There are a few coming up over the festive period I could recommend. Have a lovely Christmas to you and yours.

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Nobody can find the key to the handcuffs to separate him and Eugene. Poor Eugene will be so lost without his lordship, having a few million in the bank will help him get over it though.

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Innocent until proven guilty, that should be the blog theme for today. We are all only human and make mistakes.

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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Dec 23, 2022 at 12:35 am
Is Byrne taking cue from Liz Truss’s resignation letter, anyone with a jot of common sense didn’t believe her either.

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Don’t start me on Truss and Modo, imagine being single handedly to blame for crashing the market and making people so poor.

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11.48

Funny that as Brum v quick to claim Newman as their saint whereas by your logic he’s the Oratarians – Byrne is a Brum bishop – their gift to H&N – they knew and know all about him.

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Of course he’s our saint, silly. His body fully decomposed into the soil so he is permanently Brummagem now. 🔨

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12:19 Dioceses claim saints for the tourism benefits but not dodgy clerics because of the legal ramifications. Hadn’t you noticed?
It’s because it’s a racket, if it was a religion they would assume responsibility for both.

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Thank you and Merry Christmas. You saved my life all them years ago with the RUC. Getting me off with a caution after being found in public toilets with a few more men. I implore anyone doing this act, think twice and get your kicks a different way.

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When will the faithful of Hexham and Newcastle be informed their bishop has been reported to the police for a serious offence and (one hopes) placed on administrative leave? Or do bishops not have to suffer the ignominy of administrative leave pending an investigation and be told not to present themselves as a cleric or wear clericals?

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Innocent until proven guilty is a legal maxim not a human one – humans like to speculate, gossip and wonder and occasionally be amused that a tubby self important bishop has been reported to the police – yes, innocent until proven guilty but often ‘no smoke without fire.’

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Michael Byrne has discovered there is massive quality of life outside the RC priesthood. Well done to MJB.
Many have underestimated MJB’s intelligence and talents

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Byrne isn’t my bishop. He isn’t anyone’s bishop because he’s resigned, remember?
He is therefore a bishop at large (or may not be if the constabulary feel his collar). You may wish to compare his situation to the bishop of the See of Larne.

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11.04am

And yet you to speculate about social class – is someone’s class something that important to you?

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Interesting re Denmark, 1.3 % of total population are Catholics.
I was told its one of the most atheist country by far. The Danes viewed themselves as ‘spiritual’ rather than religious.
What’s striking to me is the absence of ‘mini shrines’ on the roads, laybys et al. Its totally devoid of all things Catholic externally.
But the Danes remains polite calm and respectful as I see them in shops, shopping malls, cinemas. Rcc church isnt seen from outside in the main town except for their spire which stood out in the sky.
Imagine that in Ireland with 1 Bishop, 72 priests and 5 deacons which is really dire. These numbers came from total figure for priests in Denmark.
Danish law forbids any converted Lutheran to Catholics back in 1589 but that’s gone now. The numbers in rcc of Denmark remains static ever since then.
Hopefully in Sweden few days time, it’s only 15 miles from Malmo.
Very accessible to person of any disability in Denmark re transportation with half price to that of full fare for any adultamd also priority seat.
Not many people with visible disabilities such as wheelchairs, just here and there. More of people with invisible disabilities such as myself.

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It would be wise to report it to the police independently and seperately apart from +Mac mahon (if I were you, can’t trust bishops nowadays).
Its just to ensure that it’s reported independently for the sake of accountability and transparency.

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Pat, My best wishes to you and, yours for a very happy Christmas, and a healthy and contented 2023.
Thank you for highlighting the filth in the Roman Catholic church in Ireland and abroad, and for your support of those sexually abused by Roman Catholic priests.
Kindest regards, QueenieVenus x.

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Merry Xmas to you also big man. May you return to the blog in the new year with positive comments for a change.

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2:05 is written in church speak. Translation of ‘positive’: favourable to the ‘church’ of Rome.

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This blog is obsessed with Robert Nugent. The more air time we give him, the more he thinks he is a saint in the making.

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All our good rural brethren want to enjoy our finest of parochial Gaelic games in autumn and winter. If someone wants to host a blog calling out wrongdoing or host videos guiding people on the right path, there are going to be critics and snipers. It has to be water off a ducks back.
Take your points and the goals will come. Goals do not come easily and you have to be able to takes a few hits alongs the way.
Sometimes in politics, you get a wallop according to Enda Kenny. People of courage and conviction have to be able to take a wallop for doing the right thing.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

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@2.44 pm
The man is totally lacking in common sense, which is not the same thing as intelligence.

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I heard the other week of midnight mass not being reintroduced back after the Covid crisis. I have just been made aware that in our parish it has been cancelled also, is this widespread or is it still on in other parishes?

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I am just under 2 decades ordained. When I was in seminary it was common knowledge that all the gay seminarians had fun and were lucky that way. The straight ones were unfortunate. Religious orders are the same. Close the door of your room and bobs your uncle.

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I have to agree, at least there is a degree of honest in that statement. I had lots of fun before I took my vows with my peers.

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When priests become bishops, are they not excardinated from their order or old diocese and incardinated into their new diocese.

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I walked in on two fellow seminarians and it was not a pretty sight for a straight man to witness – I never mentioned it to either, but while having a drink a few years later one propositioned me for oral sex. I was furious.

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Gosh bishop pat, lots of comments today and it’s great to see. I’ve just been out for a liquid lunch then a little glass afterwards for light refreshment. Hope everyone is enjoying themselves. The traffic is awful. Three times i nearly got knocked down today crossing the road. Keep safe everyone. Will toast you all at the local tonight. Bottoms up and slainte xx

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I’m made of strong stuff and sure it comes out of you as soon as it goes in! Happy Christmas cheer to all my blog friends and to bishop pat. Toasting you with a wee sambuca as we speak.

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Pat you shouldn’t allow Eamon to boast about his alcoholism and make it trivial. Your readers under 18 do not need this level of negative influence

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Pat I’m not boasting. I’m spreading a little cheer and merriment and living my best life. Is anything wrong with that? Some people are wet blankets but i like to live for the day and enjoy the night. And if a wee beer helps me am I double any harm? Happy Christmas and festive cheer to one and all x

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3:50.I have put this blog on the list of banned sites for my children. Clerical gossip is most unsuitable for them, as I want them to grow up with healthy ideas about relationships and sex.

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7:50 Of course I will. I just don’t want my children coming into contact with any priests.
Just in case.

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He’s not a troll. He’s clearly a troubled soul in need of help. Don’t be so judgmental at Christmas

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Pat at 4:18 I think he should be, especially as trolls on here are trying to make a fictitious connection to the archdiocese of Birmingham.
He is currently, of course,aggregated to the Oxfam Oratory. 😳

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2.28pm

Bishop Robert Byrne was Auxiliary Bishop of Birmingham remember? Therefore if you’re a priest from Birmingham he used to be your bishop, remember? Oh and even if he resigns he still a bishop and will always be a former auxiliary bishop of Birmingham.

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3:43
1. I’m not a priest of Birmingham.
2. I’m not a priest.
3. I’m not RC. Therefore he has never been my bishop.
4. He is a FORMER auxiliary bishop of Birmingham.
You might as well say that he’s still a pupil of his nursery school because he went there once. Probably spending longer at your school would have stopped you uttering such foolishness.
He, and you, are nothing to do with me and I repudiate you both.

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12:19 If you can’t detect the essential difference in state between Byrne and Newman it’s lucky you’re not an undertaker. 😂

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Pat be honest honey, when you were in Clonliffe did you ever mess about with fellow seminarians? I know it was rife in Kilkenny when I was there.

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Now darling come on, we were all like rabbits back in the day as we had nothing else to do

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Maybe you were, but I took my vows seriously and so did Pat. I know who you are by the way. You think your a big man, but I can see through you.

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As someone who is an alcoholic, I take offence at Eamons posts. It is a very serious progressive disease and should not be joked about by a troll Priest.

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Why do you make the assumption that Eamon is a “troll priest” when he has said absolutely nothing to give the impression that he is a priest? He is clearly a troubled, vulnerable individual with a human weakness that affects so many around us, you cruel person.

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4.27pm
Your analogy of nursery school and being an auxiliary bishop isn’t analogous – it’s facile and irrelevant – what is relevant is that Robert Byrne is the former auxiliary bishop of Birmingham prior to being made bishop of Hexham and Newcastle and what is simply true in fact is he was a bishop in Birmingham and therefore was for a period of time one of their bishops.
As for my schooling and attending your unnamed school – the quality of aman’s education doesn’t prevent him from bribing a fool and by resorting to abusive ad honimun my case rests.

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A poll by Catholic America remarkably showed that Catholics in the states are in favour of scrapping a priests celibacy rules and are in favour of them being married. 68% in favour, 27% against, 5% uncertain

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7:21 That’s right, Father only crazy people believe in truth and free speech, crazier than a bag of cats, isn’t that what you tell everyone father.

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I can think of only two ex-Maynooth dons now in ministry outside Ireland and still subject to oversight by Irish bishops. Rt Rev Monsignor Hugh Connolly and Rev Paul Prior SJ.

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Is there an official church position on homosexuality and unofficial position held by clergy?
If church teaching has changed will the Vatican let us know please.

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6.22
With every scientific advance in disciplines which impinge on our understanding of human sexuality the various positions of mainstream Christianity move forward and closer to one another.

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BBC Radio 4 Christmas Midnight Mass is from Leeds Cathedral, with Bishop Stock the chief celebrant. This alone is worth the license fee.

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Happy Christmas dear Bishop Pat and followers. After a long absence I’m back, healthy and ready to contribute again.

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Pat at 3:48 I think that’s the way it works for diocesan priests but I don’t think religious bishops leave their order.
They keep their letters after their name?
And despite having shared with Vinnie for years I think Mark Jabalé has gone back to Belmont.

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I know it’s innocent until proven guilty, but I’m afraid + Bobby is toast. There will be no coming back from this kind of thing. There must be something there for +McMahon to take it seriously, and for the Nuncio to have been involved in moving + Bobby on. I think the best outcome he will get is prayer and penance, he may even find himself laicised from episcopacy and priesthood. Whatever, I would expect the Cong Orats will have some responsibility and oversight for him. Rightly so. But,. as for the rest, well it does look a bit bleak. I’m genuinely sorry about that. Both for + Bobby and anybody else (an assumed victim ?) included. It’s just very sad all round.

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The alleged reforms of Francis brought nothig… they still act as an abuser in a relationship. They tell you, “I love you. I will change. But, if you leave me, you’re disgusting and ugly, so you better don’t say anything against me. God doesn’t like it”

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