Many of the priests of Portsmouth diocese are very unhappy and worried about their diocese under its bishop PHILIP EGAN.
Just yesterday, a very senior priest of the diocese spoke to me in semi despair and called Egan, “a manipulator and dictator.”
The current big storm in the diocese is about the PRF – Priest’s Retirement Fund.
The PRF has always been a completely separate Registered Charity and not connected to the Diocesan Charity.
Egan now wants to haul the PRF into the Diocesan Charity, giving him, Egan, total control.
People specifically donated to the PRF as a donation to support sick and retired priests. Those donors did not wish their money used for any other diocesan purpose.
Two of the PRF board members, both lay, have stepped down in protest over Egans plan.
These people and others – lay and clerical – have also lodged formal complaints against Egan’s plan with the Charity Commissioners who are currently investigating.
At times, the PRF had up to £ 12 million in cash reserves as well as a property portfolio.
A Portsmouth priest told me last night: “Egan wants money, not real estate”.
OTHER PORTSMOUTH ISSUES
The Friars of Gosporth
In recent times, friars and nuns based at Gosport left Portsmouth and headed for Scotland after a lot of controversy.
One monk had put a sermon on YouTube accusing ALL Catholic teachers as “devils”.
They were also telling people in church, NOT to take the Covid vaccinations.
FATHER RAY LYONS
Apparently, Egan is trying to laicise Ray Lyons and another priest called Sean, who lives with him. Is this Sean Tobin who like Lyons and Lyttle are all c/o Bishops House?
Fr Lyons is the priest who JOHN PAUL LYTTLE lived with. It was from Fr Lyons’ window that Lyttle fell nearly killing himself and ending up with serious brain injuries.
John Paul Lyttle had been in Oscott and had a sexual affair with a senior priest staff member.
Egan’s predecessor, Bishop Crispin Hollis, had dismissed Lyttle from the diocese, and the priest staff member was assigned to a parish.
When Egan took over, he quickly and quite surreptitiously ordained Lyttle to priesthood.
Lyttle went on to various things, including trying to ply a young police officer with alcohol and seduce him.
Lyttle is now c/o Bishops House.
MIA PRIESTS
There are many Portsmouth priests missing in action.
All is not well in Portsmout, and Egan is at the epicentre of that unwellness.
***** CAN the clergy and people of Portsmouth please keep us updated on here or on bishopbuckley1@outlook.com
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
326 replies on “ALL IS NOT WELL IN PORTSMOUTH !!!”
Wasn’t his ordination on a weekday evening? I’ve never heard of such a strange time for an ordination, even for a permanent deacon.
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Yes it was. All very strange
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All is not well in Wexford.
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Unfortunately it’s not just Portsmouth it’s everywhere.
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Doesn’t Bishop Egan have a lovely pink skull cap, bless his little cotton socks.
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If any of the allegations made against this degenerate character are true it’s not a sabbatical he should be on but dismissal with immediate effect. That’s the only update we need to hear.
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10:18 Bishop Egan deserves very intense scrutiny whether you like it or not, Timmy Bhoy.
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11:05 Can I sit in on the interview?
I may have a few questions at the end.
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Did Egan or Lyttle spend a year with the Montfort Missionaries in Southampton. Alarm bells should have been ringing in bishop’s house after his fall. He displayed an immaturity and lack of prudence as a 28 year old seminarian in inviting three strangers he met in a pub back to the presbytery in which he was staying with his extremely close friend Fr Ray Lyons. That was how Fr Ray described himself in newspaper reports after the fall. All very strange.
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And some time with the Franciscans in Donegal and Africa.
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10:26. What went on in Africa will finish the Irish Roman Catholic Church in particular in due course.
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11:29 Amen. We know they exported abusers and I am sure the worst of them were kept for the black babies in the missions.
How bad their exports were can be gauged by how bad abuse was in Ireland to start with, then worse in the US, and the missions have yet to be revealed.
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10:26 Leave Donegal out of it. Their sheep ain’t a patch on ours here in Mayo. I worked up there for a while. A story for another day +Pat.
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Bishop Pat, important to recognise the sad news regarding the very sudden and unexpected death of Msgr Richard (Dick) Mohan former Prior of Lough Derg. A good and faithful servant who cared for the Pilgrim people and secured Lough Derg’s legacy into the 21st Century. May he RIP +
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11:24 Why are you mentioning the “very sudden and unexpected death”, as you put it, of Monsignor Mohan on a blog investigating crime, corruption and criminality in the Roman Catholic Church? It is your civic duty to report any relevant information formally to the relevant policing authorities.
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Hey, 11:43am, who appointed you Co-Moderator of the blog? If Pat (remember it’s his blog, not yours) publishes a comment, that’s his call and not yours.
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RIP Mgr Mohan.
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1:23pm Deflection! Bishop Pat published legitimate comment on death of Msgr Mohan @ 12:43. Your reaction speaks volumes given the focus of this platform. Surely a large and wealthy organisation like the RCC has its own “probably secret” platform hidden away somewhere to discuss the various “sudden and unexpected” revelations that emerge on a daily basis worldwide. Censorship is so last century, Grandma!
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1.23
About time someone put the little upstart in his place. He’s been attempting to vet comments here for some time. You are right. It’s Pat’s blog. Well said.
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1.23 is perfectly correct to call out your attempts to dictate the subject matter of the blog. Readers can see as recently as last week you were attempting to do the same. Pat will decide what’s published. Not you. Not your call. Jog on.
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@ 10:20pm
Strange indeed, far too many of these “close friendships”, time to bring back some discipline. No particular friendships during formation and certainly no inviting people back to presbyteries. Most important of all Bishops who know how to lead and control their clergy.
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All those Tridentine rules about particular friendships and social calls were thrown in the bin, with the results we see reported on the blog daily. It’s anything goes now and unless children are involved bishops look the other way, though Bishop Egan appears to be taking action against Fr Tory.
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1:26 When have clerics actually ever obeyed any rules or laws? 😂
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2.08pm. Before the Council. There were no Summers of Love in Maynooth in those days. Abuse soared in the 1970s and peaked in the 1980s, both by unsuitable priests formed after the Council and those formed before it, who lost all sense of sin and the discipline collapsed.
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And what about all the priests who abused before the 70?
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The numbers were very low (and even one case is evil and sinful). The Murphy Report said that the collapse of canon law sanctions in Dublin from the 1970s onwards emboldened priests who learned that they wouldn’t be punished and in fact would benefit from a “pastoral” approach denied to victims.
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3:06 demonstrating that he lives in a fantasy world.
Can I suggest you read through some preconciliar formators’ manuals and conferences of religious so that you can see you’re wrong?
Primary sources, dear boy, not fiction.
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3:09 the public were completely cowed and brainwashed before the 1970s, you’d be tarred and feathered or deported if you told the truth about the “pillars of the community & their cohorts”.
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Were there summers of love in Maynooth in the pre-conciliar era or is that a fruit of the Council?
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The Murphy Report makes it clear that canon law was not the problem that many have assumed it was. In fact, the problem of child abuse by clerics was made worse by the reckless actions of Church officials who simply refused to implement canon law. The opening pages of the Murphy Commission report explicitly state that Church law refers to the abuse of a minor as the “worst crime.”
As the commission wrote: “There is a 2,000-year history of biblical, papal, and Holy See statements showing awareness of clerical child sexual abuse…. Over the centuries, strong denunciation of clerical child sexual abuse came from popes, Church councils, and other Church sources. These denunciations are particularly strong on ‘offences against nature’ and ‘offences committed with or against juveniles.’”
The 1917 Code of Canon Law, for example, “decreed deprivation of office and/or benefice, or expulsion from the clerical state for such offences,” the report notes. The commission goes on to report that “in the 20th century, two separate documents on dealing with child sexual abuse were promulgated by Vatican authorities.” The documents, says the commission, were “little observed in Dublin.”
The report also notes that in Dublin “the Church authorities failed to implement most of their own canon law rules on dealing with clerical child sexual abuse.” In a vindication of the law of the universal Church, the report notes: “The commission is satisfied that Church law demanded serious penalties for clerics who abused children. In Dublin, from the 1970s onwards, this was ignored.”
The report goes on: “Canon law provides the Church authorities with a means not only of dealing with offending clergy, but also with a means of doing justice to victims, including paying compensation to them.”
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For the benefit of 3:59pm, here are some primary sources.
Statistics published by the Archdiocese of Dublin in May 2012 offer a decade-by-decade breakdown of when abuse reported to Irish authorities is alleged to have occurred.
The analysis of allegations of abuse made against 98 priests of the archdiocese over a 70-year period shows that the alleged abuse began to skyrocket in the 1960s. Approximately 2 percent of accused priests are alleged to have abused in the 1940s, 4 percent in the 1950s, 23 percent in the 1960s, 27 percent in the 1970s, 34 percent in the 1980s, 9 percent in the 1990s, and 1 percent in the 2000s.
This is very similar to the pattern found in other countries. What explains the fact that the problem became so bad in that particular period—the 1960s to the 80s?
It’s an issue the late Pope Benedict XVI referred to in his 2010 book-length interview Light of the World. When asked about the effects of the mishandling of abuse worldwide, it was to Dublin that the Holy Father looked for an answer: “The Archbishop of Dublin told me something very interesting about that,” the Pope said, referring to Archbishop Diarmuid Martin. “He said that ecclesiastical penal law functioned until the late 1950s; admittedly it was not perfect—there is much to criticize about it—but nevertheless it was applied. After the mid-60s, however, it was simply not applied any more.”
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Fr Frank Duhig, the celebrated Junior and later Senior Dean of Maynooth, used to break up “particular friendships” and he disbanded a snobbish intellectual clique that had been nicknamed “the Tulips” by their less gifted brethren.
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4:59 Thank you for demonstrating that you don’t know the difference between correlation and causation.
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4:36 Tell me about it, secrets all over the place.
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4:48 Why ask the question when you already know the answer. You were there.
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11:38 time to bring back some discipline you say!! And who is going to do that when RCC is riddled with a highly compromised hierarchy from the top down. What’s wrong? Did your coffee percolator break down during the holidays, best you go grab yourself a bargain in the January sales and please do the women a favour & leave your camera phone at home or better still, find yourself a basic Nokia when you’re shopping for the coffee machine.
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3:06 Many incorrectly consider that Bishop Eamon Casey and Fr Michael Cleary represent the beginning of the end of the Irish RCC. The unimaginable depravity that was exercised on the poorest and most vulnerable in Irish society in mother & baby homes and on the farms and businesses of the middle classes who also simultaneously produced a steady stream of priests & nuns decades earlier was where the seeds were sown. Is it no wonder some of these evil clerics continued what went on at home when they got the opportunity in holy orders.
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Well I’m old enough to remember before the Council and remember perfectly well what Father’s funny little ways meant doing to the altar boys after benediction.
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Lyttle was also the victim of Donaghy who allegedly sexually abused McCafferty, although rumour has it they were in a relationship that just turned sour and shame made him claim he was abused
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Why did you say allegedly? Stop being a denier and victim-shamer.
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Are you referring to McCafferty or Lyttle?
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Mccafferty is a clown – he needs to learn to be a survivor and not a victim
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4:08pm – Are you a perpetrator? Disgusting that Pat published such a comment.
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I don’t undertand why bishops take restless candidates who go for order to order, diocese to diocese. It rarely ends well.
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Retreads are bad news.
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But we must be ‘merciful’ when a priest has raped a few children and move him on so he can do a few more.
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Say what you like about the bishop of Portsmouth he’s worked a LOT sooner than the Abbot General of the Cistercians or Abbot Father of Mount Mellary. Good riddance to hypocrites. If priesthood and religious life were “a free for all” many an ACTIVE gay man would join up and Maynooth, Roscrea and Mount Mellary would be packed to the rafters.
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The Bishop Of Portsmouth seems quite happy to promote and stay at Farnborough Abbey despite the “Usual” interests Of Abbot Cuthbert Brogan and members of his community!
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Poor old JPL ran into that rarest of things, a straight potential seminarian.
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All priests make mistakes they are only human. Leave them alone you or I will take my slipper of to the lot of you.
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7:26 Good to hear you finally treated yourself to new slippers for Christmas!
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Just in case he never got my message in the previous blog heading;
Deaf Guy contact the PSNI if you have any information on any criminal activity. Keeping silent only makes it worse for the victims. You of all people should know this. You will be complicit.
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Telephone Numbers for Northern Ireland.
Belfast. 02890 243133
Foyle. 02871 370086
England & Wales. 0808 1689111
Lines open 24 hours, 7 days
Scotland. 0800 160 1985
Lines open Mon-Fri. 8am to 8pm
http://www.victimsupport.org.uk
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@11:38
Is there not a Victim Support Service in Republic of Ireland or are they not into that sort of thing yet? I found this blog online and it interests me because my grandmother died in a mother and baby home in the old country. My mother was sent to America for adoption although papers show that her family wanted to raise her. Sadly, all of this concealed by Irish convent until it was far too late. So many regrets and lives ruined as a consequence of the greed of the Irish Catholic religious.
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@ 11:38 am
OMG! don’t tell me she’s still at it. Knows every phone number about anything.
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He should set up a switchboard and postroom in his house as a sort of clearing house/one stop shop for handling complaints both ecclesiastical and secular.
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2:10 Do at least try & keep up, dear!
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1:26 She’s a pain in the ****, a walking encyclopaedia about things you’d never imagine an auld lady would be interested in.
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Doesn’t ex + Conry live in Portsmouth Diocese somewhere ? + Egan came from Shrewsbury where he had been + Dark Mavis’ VG. He’s a kind of low key culture wars warrior who goes on about abortion, homosexuality, and Mary. Bad red blush complexion. Mostly seen in alcoholics. Arrogant f***k too, presuming that because he is bishop he should be listened to and obeyed. Bad appointment. And as an aside, JPL was, maybe still is, hot. But probably a busted flush these days.
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Absolutely right about JPL….very hot indeed.
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There is no end to the greed of Bishops obsessed with money and wealth, exotic foreign travel, whimsical hobbies, interior design, fine wines and whiskies, shares in bloodstock, collecting antiques displaying zero regard for the sheep they purport to minister to but take the piss out of them and their problems behind their backs. Duplicitous hypocrites leading double lives.
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Who was the staff member at Oscott?
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I hope your contact in Portsmouth is not Fr PJ Smith who is a major spy for Egan and is his eyes/ears. This explains his elevation as an Episcopal Vicar so young but he is well known to be over friendly with a certain undertaker in the diocese.
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What is it with priests and undertakers as ‘close friends’ I remember something on here about a similar situation in Glasgow and the Daisy Chain and an undertaker.
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@ 12:51pm
Remember who was the source of that unreliable gossip. The undertaker in question was an expert in embalming and couldn’t wait to get his hands on the gossip.🤣
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It is because undertakers are the only lay men that priests meet in churches, now that congregations consist only of old ladies and a handful of children.
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In a Times Radio voxpop in October 2022 at the Tory conference, Ray Lyons revealed to that he’s a Tory and that his mortgage had gone up. He mustn’t be living in diocesan property, yet he was wearing a flamboyant clerical shirt. Other reports suggest that he is a property developer, which is an odd thing for a priest to be doing.
https://youtu.be/CteFr70k0VE
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12:25 Not at all an odd thing for a priest to be a silent partner in property development ventures or being a landlord (using a letting agent) has always been a lucrative and attractive option for priests building a nest egg for retirement. We have had several priests as clients over the years. Some will have inherited from family or friends and others will have chosen to invest from inheritance and other sources. Can’t say I blame them if Bishops like Egan have now started eyeing up the Priest Retirement Funds.
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11.58, I’m 12:25, thanks for the explanation, very good points, especially in the light of raids on the pension scheme. I suppose it is also a safety net that gives the priest some housing security if he chooses to leave or has a bad bishop who treats him badly.
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11:58 Exactly, no one deserves to have the roof taken from over their head to suit the greedy whims of unscrupulous church types. Priests are entitled to financial security in retirement same as the rest of the population.
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He’s allowed a lot of very right wing religious orders into the diocese. It’s all a bit like a re-enactment society and quite unreal.
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@ 12:31am
It could be worse, if he let a lot of left wing orders in. You’d know all about it, It would be very unreal altogether.
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Fortunately, the left-wing orders have had no recruits since the 1960s and are handing back parishes, rather than taking them on.
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Is there any connection between Portsmouth diocese and the late Christopher Stalford, as some people in Southampton have suggested? Can Deaf Guy shed any light on the matter, given that he knew the man and is known to have information about the sad circumstances.
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The PRF accounts are overdue.
https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/3035598/accounts-and-annual-returns
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Financial and sexual improprieties appear to be commonplace in Portsmouth. Priests Retirement Fund shouldn’t be used to fund extravagant tastes of greedy Bishops in England or anywhere.
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Bishops do not respect the rights or wishes of parishioners in these or in any other matters. Bishops are only interested in the best interests of themselves and their inner circles.
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Are funds getting low in Portsmouth Diocese or is Bishop Egan leading an extravagant lifestyle that he wants to dip into priests retirement fund to sustain?
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2.06 Truth! I’m living proof 😊
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That’s what manipulative dictator Bishops and their teams do.
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Will the truth ever come out about the night that JPL fell or was pushed out the window? What was Ray Lyons doing in the flat at the time?
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Was the window incident before or after ordination? If before, the act of inviting strangers back after a night on the beer should have raised serious question marks about his maturity and suitability for ordination. Was Ray Lyons his protector and come to think of it, why was Ray Lyons, a Portsmouth priest, living in Isleworth? Was he MIA even then?
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Before ordination
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Thanks, Pat. That’s madness. What was Bishop Egan thinking? There must have been favours and promises being called in, maybe even blackmail.
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Is Portsmouth the English Killaloe?
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The oldest Priest in the Diocese is in a Nursing Home .Egan has not bothered to get off his backside and visit him once in the time he has been sick .
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5:32 Shameful treatment of an elderly priest who has given his whole life to the Roman Catholic Church. Few Bishops are genuine Christians or Pastors these days, they are money men who surround themselves with white collar professionals mainly gathered from the accountancy, legal and property industries ably assisted by vindictive lackeys with serious issues and grudges who operate on the ground to instructions from their peers and church lay and ordained hierarchy. Why would any young person now give their life and talent to such an uncaring, dangerous & damaging organisation as the Roman Catholic Church. Archbishop Egan has no time for this elderly priest who is well past his sell by date and represents nothing more than a financial burden in the eyes of Archbishop Egan and his colleagues that are in cohoots with Egan who is nothing more than a shameful magpie with his eye firmly focussed on the gold that glitters. His eye is certainly not focussed on God or those suffering & left in limbo as a result of Roman Catholic Church related wrongdoing.
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Since when has Bishop Egan been promoted to Archbishop? Heaven forbid!
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Full marks to Archbishop Bernard Longley of Birmingham who, every year, visits all of his retired priests who are in care or nursing homes, most recently on St Stephen’s Day.
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3pm that’s good to hear about Bernie.
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“That is the challenge for ourselves this Christmas. Peace begins with each of us doing what we can and what our faith calls us to do.
There is at this time a real need for peacemakers, men and women prepared to work boldly and creatively to initiate processes of healing and renewed encounter. That is true amongst ourselves, our society and in our Church.” – A Christmas message from the Bishop of Meath, Tom Deenihan.
That is the challenge for Tom Deenihan this Christmas. Peace begins with Tom doing what he can and what his faith calls him to do. He must stop this morally reprehensible persecution of Dom Benedict.
There is at this time a real need for peacemakers, men and women prepared to work boldly and creatively to initiate processes of healing and renewed encounter. That is true amongst Tom Deenihan, our society and all in Church.
Tom must practice what he preaches. Why be a hypocrite? Why be unChristian?
The good clergymen and people of Meath will have sympathy for the Plight of Portsmouth. Episcopal leaders must lead with integrity.
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Ray Lyons and Sean Tobin are an item. I remember Sean Tobin from my Allen Hall days and his ordination year group all stuck together and proved to be a totally liberal lot. I am glad I escaped from it all.
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I’ve had it with the lot of you. I’m a gay active priest. I have human needs which god gave me. Why should I not have the right to use those needs. It’s only natural. I do not sleep around, but I do have a lover. One. We have consensual sex and it’s love. You tell me that’s wrong.
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@ 4:03pm
We don’t have to tell you it’s wrong you already know that.🙄
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It is also wrong to troll the blog with lies about being a priest.
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4.34
You would need to investigate the difference between morally wrong and legally/canonically wrong. Were you asleep during First Divine Moral Theology? Or perhaps, down the town in a pub?
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Is Ray Lyons dead?
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No
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He is very much alive and is still listed by Companies House as a company director.
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@7.03am Yes I remember Sean Tobin’s year in Allen Hall. Pat Madden left Westminster diocese and is now PP in Portsmouth diocese. Anthony O’Gorman (with his ponytai) left Westminster diocese and is PP in Plymouth diocese. Witton the Neo Cat Pole is Vincent’s right hand man at Westminster Cathedral. Danny Horan was a late vocation who died but acted like an immature schoolboy. Eamon Murray I think has left the priesthood and Stephen Monk left too and became an Anglican vicar and is now married.
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Usual rate of attrition, then.
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Poor +Phylis will not be pleased to be featured again, not after the popular power-bottom saga we enjoyed some time ago. However, it will be interesting to read today’s comments on her attempt to appropriate the Priest’s Retirement Fund.
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The auxiliary in Armagh is not happy at all and thinks that he should be accompanying Eamon to Rome on Thursday. He has ideas above his station and wants D&C big time. The wounded healer is in the background stirring it and trying to maintain the Cavan influence.
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Presumably the Wounded Healer is going along too, if every member of the College of Cardinals has been invited?
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Is it only Roman Catholics you blog about? What about Lord Mountbatten the pedo or Andrew? Not Catholic I suppose?
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There’s a heirarchy of victims on this blog. Only Catholic clergy ones matter. If you mention others you are shouted down. There’s no anger on behalf of the wrong type of victim.
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What is a “wrong type of victim” ?
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Pat at 1:57 ‘the wrong type of victim’ means the clergy are making out they feel sorry for anyone other than themselves.
It’s another attempted diversion, only trying to use the language of empathy and failing so dramatically that not even you understand what they’re on about.
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A wrong type of victim, as far as people who get angry here, is one who suffers at the hands of social workers, scout masters, Protestant clergy and in families, where the overwhelming majority of abuse occurs. Mention those and you’re told to shut up.
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You’re right: they weren’t/aren’t Catholic. Which is why they aren’t blogged about.
See? You answered your own query.😅
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@3:02 will you are the right type of idiot. Anyone (children) that was abused by any denomination is a victim of serious life changing consequences and yet there are supposed “victims” on thuis blog who believe they are abused and wronged because they were just plain stupid adults.
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10:15 Thank you for demonstrating the utter contempt with which Roman Catholics view and treat the targets of their clergy’s abuse. As if a further reminder were needed.
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Pat, seriously you couldn’t make this up. For the umpteenth time, clergy are public figures and their ‘problems’ which may affect others should be public.
This is not like he’s having an appendix operation.
If there are any clergy reading this who maintain the fantasy of a private life, clear off right now.
And Pat, you should name the Dominican priest who masturbated a young man and the Redemptorist that is in a relationship with a Diocesan priest in Armagh.
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It’s well know in Armagh who the redemptorist priest is in a relationship with a fellow Pp. Yet it doesn’t seem to bother anyone that these men have vowed a life of celibacy and it is immoral, maybe it’s a platonic relationship though, only them two know what they get up to when alone, but for transparency and to be open and honest policy, they should clarify to the blog.
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Pat have you heard on the grapevine, proof or not, who this pair are?
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I thought this was rumour, but they are together a lot in Newry but as the gossip just said, it could be platonic, and they are not answerable to this blog!
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They are answerable to their flock and themselves, personally, if they are together – as usual suggested – I don’t know what Diocese Pp sees in the Red
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Probably money and holidays, isn’t that what most men want?
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Personally, I am more interested in companionship and love than monetary presents and gifts
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When and where did the alleged incident with the OP take place?
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I am not sure what to make of this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64125531
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I am! Religious life in the Catholic Church is unnatural, and really f**** up human beings.
Lisa was allowed to see her mum only four times a year, and only through a grille. How on earth was this pleasing to God? What kind of mutant do these people worship?
Utter madness.
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They seem as immature as each other, but every pan has a lid, as my granny used to say.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Jan 2, 2023 at 10:20 am
I think it’s a lovely story they took the the honest route out of their shackles, it looks to me as nil points for the RCC and full points for the Anglican church. Now if priest were allowed to marry, not only would the priest be retained but also his wife as a useful member of the Roman Catholic church. They have both given many years to the RCC church anyway.
The sad part is Anglican vicars who convert to Catholicism, they, their wives and, children are accepted, yet two honest people with an obvious interest in Christianity, and a love for each other, have to jump the fence to be accepted, as a couple, and part of the Christian church. Good for them. I for one, wish them happiness and, peace.
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I know both of them and I can remember them leaving the Carmelites in Preston. They are both lovely people and deserve to be very happy.
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The Carmelites of Preston will soon be no more. The Carmel is closing this year. Tabor retreat house – which was so well used – has already closed.
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Hmm? I thought the same after reading it. However, at least she could walk out of the convent unhindered, unlike women confined in the Magdalene Laundries.
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Look, the solution is simple. If you take a vow of celibacy or chastity as a priest or monk, you are really expected to do your best to keep it. If it is problematic for you, and it leads you in to cruising, saunas, alfresco sex, dishonest relationships, taking advantage of people, then you need to do the honest and straightforward thing and find another way of life that suits your predilections. Just living a lie is not healthy or good for you, for those around you, or for the Church. So, please, have a think and be honest with yourself and take the right steps. I would be the first to admire your integrity and honesty. Now, if you decide that you want to be celibate or chaste, then great, go for it. But, you can’t have it all ways.
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Our priest hosts one Saturday night party every month and ALL the people who attend are men. Coincidence of course, you all have gutter minds.
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That’s is why Seminarian formation takes so long. Its not just about studying Philosophy and Theology and then your ordained! Pope St John Paul II published a book called Pastores Dabo Vobis in which he outlined the 4 pillars of formation. The Academic, Spiritual, Human and Pastoral. I’m sorry to have come across this article as I was a student in St Joseph’s Seminary in Belfast, and knew John Paul Lyttle who was in the year below me and found that because of the lack of students in the place and the role of the other Clergy, it was a part-time job for them . The Seminary President was also the President of St Malachy’s College, and now the current Bishop of Derry, the Spiritual Director was just plane incompetent and talked to us about everything under the sun except our Spiritual and Pastoral lives, the Director of Formation was obsessed with sin. Two of these priests were suspended later and I believe one is now back in ministry and the other is still on sabbatical. The only one who showed any care and attention to us young lads was the Director of Studies who was a good and Holy Man, and we all respected him. Our formation was more or less left in your own hands. If you kept the rules and did not step out of line then you progressed to lectorate and moved onto Maynooth or Rome. In my first year there was 5 seminarians and in my second year there was 6. I know that 2 made it to Ordination for Down and Connor, however I was a Dromore Seminarian, and one was from Armagh. I am now 46 years old and am still discerning were God is calling me in my life. In this day and age the idea of Seminaries is outdated and needs reformed which Vatican II should have done. I know what JP done was wrong, but unfortunately I have found myself being in the same situation as the victim by Clergy in my own Diocese. Sexuality is something that was repressed and frowned upon which for guys at a vulnerable age it should have been delt with with care, and humanity. In the end I made it to Lectorate and after a long summer of reflection,prayer and talks with my own Parish Priest decided not to pursue any further as my head was messed up by what was going on their.
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In my experience ALL traditionalist clergy are either repressed homosexuals, transvestites or secretly active homosexuals.
There are no exceptions to the rule. One old traditionist I knew liked women and children.
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This is why the trad movement is music to my ears. It will only lead to the even faster destruction of the cult. Because it’s got no historical sense they have no way of seeing their role in church history as it will be recounted in the future. If they did, they would be Catholics.
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Must I repeat the long list of blog stars, who in no way could be described as trads?
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3:40 Must I repeat my comment until you get someone to explain it to you?
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@ 10:24am
Your lucky you’ve had no experience of the other lot. There are NO exceptions to your list in Polydom.😏
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Your reminder at 5:30 that Roman Catholicism isn’t just about child rape, it’s also about dressing up like a drag queen.
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Very few priests are in reality ‘devout’ they seem to accept very early on that it’s a job or a form of performance perhaps for the greater good but hardly ever genuinely touching their own souls
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Gay erotic fervour and Catholic devotion have always been the best of bedmates. Think of St Alphonsus.
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The Gay Mafia got one in last night wondering if it were a case of mistaken identity in the Boilerhouse. He practically had a gold card and you know how clergy can talk (the ones who saw him).
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Any chance of a blog on each dioceses MIAs Bishop Pat?
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JPL is now tee-total.
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Little John is in the light again. What’s the problem here is it JP s alleged goings on, the Priesthood, both or something far deeper? In the new year will the hens cackle or put on the new doc martens and the alleged real versions of the fictitious bishop Brennan from craggy island a kick in thrash.
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Egan looks like Fr Jack
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I was watching Come Dancing from 1979, available on YouTube. It was presented by the late Sir “Terry” Wogan KCHS RIP, who in the shoe was a dead ringer for Mgr Ledwith, even down to the style of piece.
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There is not going to be any apology from JPL or anybody else. He’s disappeared, moved on, albeit with continuing support from Portsmouth Diocese. He’s not going to come back to ministry. Too much dysfunction, too much history. JPL will end up getting his end away elsewhere and will fade in to some kind of homosexual cultural and sexual background. Maybe he will find some happiness and contentment there. I hope so. He’s not going to find it as a priest anymore. Sorry.
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RC quangoes need enthusiastic PR or policy heads.
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He could be a director of ministry for an order of nuns, eg the Bons.
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A thing that has been wrong for a long time was to tell a man that he is a “priest” (of a specific priesthood) “forever” because that is never going to be within the meaning of Holy Scripture. When any alter JP isn’t in such priesthood, he needn’t be listed as one: simple. “Reduced” might mean “led back”, but it doesn’t have to mean smaller. If he has done his best in the role for a short time, fine. If someone else does their best in the role a longer time, fine. The RCC needs to discover the principle of principle.
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I’m afraid the blame for much of this lies at Egan’s door.
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JPL, c/o Fr Ray Lyons
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Lots of talk on the early RTE radio about Larne Pat and the new Irish sea border. I was cackling to myself when an old Unionist politician was interviwed and claimed the prods were now dismantled and divorced from Britain lol.
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Surely Silverstream will take JPL in, Bp Pat, they’ve taken in as many waifs and strays already, one more will probably make it a monastery.
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I find it disgusting. Of the many parishioners I have had over the years, there have been some very attractive ones (some very let me tell you). But I have always known my place. Parish – Priest. There it starts, and there it ends, drunk or sober. If I meet someone in a different context, I might like to flirt a little. But the point is, I am not their parish priest. As I say, I’m not an angel. But, there are some things that even drink doesn’t cover.
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This whole thing can be explained very simply – bishop Philip Egan thinks he has a direct line to god, and so whatever comes into His Grace’s mind is what god wants. Thus how PJ got himself ordinated into the Roman church.
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And of course Egan is a BIG pal of Betty Turpin in Paisley – make of that what you will! But why an ultra right order have moved lock stock and barrel from Portsmouth to Dunkeld – even as Stevie steps down – is v strange and binds the successor to a major headache – them bishops 🙄🙄🙄🤷🏾♂️ any theories why this has happened?
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Watch this space . Egan is going to keep JPL out the way for a year more, and then slip him into a Parish without saying about it on our web site.
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I find Fr Sebastian Wall particularly compelling
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Egan also closed down Saint Ethleberts, the recovery centre which specialised in the rehabilitation of alcoholic nuns. It was a very successful operation
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Bishop pat , do you know who was on the altar in killdorrery
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11:22 a subject for a blog on another day. Watch this space. At the time, the newspapers reported that Garda investigated after images showing a man dressed as a priest engaging in sexual activity with another man across the altar of St Bartholomew’s Church emerged. Fr Eamon Kelleher informed the media that he had been informed by Bishop William Crean that he had received the photographs. The priest involved took time out claiming to be suffering from addiction issues and mental health issues. It is understood that the Bishop has never made arrangements to reconsecrate the altar at St Bartholomew’s Church.
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And the priest is now deceased
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Yes but did the seminarian go on and get ordained? Surely that’s one reason as good as any to throw someone out of the church for good. Absolutely abhorrent behaviour.
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Move on, 3.20pm, please. He received a vocation at his ordination, even if he didn’t have one before. Those are the rules and I’m sure he has been to confession.
Also, as the rite of ordination makes clear, enquiries were made among the people of God and those concerned with his training, and he was found worthy. Maynooth has expertise in formation, developed over a period of 227 years. I’m inclined to trust their judgement over randomers on the blog, who are probably rejected sems, to boot.
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6:02 You win the award for best comment today. 👏
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Stephen Wilson reported several seminarian to Mullaney and accused them of being Informers to the media and you Pat. Pat, I am a vicitm of Stephen Wilson and my family has also suffered due to Mr Wilson’s reporting.
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11.27: It seems to me that many commenters are ex seminarians and priests, others just angry, dissatisfied and always criticising. Lots of strange things happened in Maynoith, if everything reported is to be believed. Some guys at the centre of these “queer” events got very hurt and were found out to be promiscuous, pernicious, jealous, envious and annoyed. They took the vengeance road to sort out “problems”, “disappointments”, “broken promises of love” – and so we still get a litany of revenge comments by those who were spurned, reported on and whose liaisons turned sour. The immature response by so many “ex’s” perpetuates their lack of psychological, spiritual and human integrity and growth. They will continue to feel aggrieved and hurt and victimised once they dwell in their past, a past which, as young men, they should have demonstrated greater responsibility. As a 19 year old entering seminary, I acted very discerningly, responsibily and with maturity. We certainly didn’t prowl around corridors in the dark of night. There was an adherence to norms, discipline and boundaries. The seminarians and priests of recent decades are in a bubble of their own and some, past and present act weirdly.
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12:17 Who is the new Director of Formation at Maynooth? Why are new Irish seminarians being sent overseas when we still have seminaries here in Ireland?
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‘The immature response’
Nice response there.
‘They will continue to feel aggrieved and hurt and victimised’
By you, obviously.
‘I acted very discerningly, responsibily and with maturity.’
So how come you stopped?
But then we’ve seen what gets through in semenaries…
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Eamon Martin is blessed by Stephen Wilson
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I couldn’t be bothered to read all of this formulaic “monk meets nun” very long story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64125531 However, it does seem to me that ,notwithstanding its twee romanticism, here were two people who at least were honest and transparent about themselves and their relationship and made the necessary moves and changes in order to be able to live honestly and with integrity. So unlike the clergy that we come across on these pages and elsewhere who are living compromised lives of dishonesty, duplicity and dysfunction, which damages not just them but all those around them. Anyhow, may the ex-nun and the ex-month live happily ever after !
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11:29 Well said, the truth will set them free. The others & their cohorts should move on and make their own lives and stop stalking, harrassing and slandering anyone they fear might expose their toxic secrets.
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Here, here! May the ex monk and ex nun live happily ever after.
It’s the double life merchants and the hypocritical gangsters who are toxic. If it is beyond them to honestly and genuinely practice what they preach, just exit stage left and get on with your lives.
Episcopal leaders must lead with integrity. Episcopal gangsters must resign without delay.
Pax.
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Many of todays seminarians and young priests are living out a fantasy and not a vocation – alternating between the altar where they are the Perfect Christ and the BDSM room where they are the “pig”. There is something dangerously psychotic about all of this and leads to all kinds of destruction.
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Being a Roman Catholic priest and sexually active as a gay man are incompatible. No amount of faith or courage is going to square the circle. If a priest is trying to reconcile both then the only answer is to stop acting out and be faithful to your sacred promise, or leave and find contentment outside of the church. I did the later. I would have been celebrated my
silver jubilee had I remained but would have been deeply unhappy and probably found it too difficult to readjust to secular life if I had left later. It took me 5 years to find my feet and to accept myself and to come out to my family after I left. All I found was unconditional acceptance and love. A car, a roof over your head, no bills to worry about, and adulation from a few old ladies will never make up for true freedom and inner peace.
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Eamon Martin either does not know what is going on with his seminarians and priests or is turning a blind eye because the problem is so big. Sooner or later it will all come to a head in a massive explosion of scandal. Martin is a very weak “man”.
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Amy Martin is winging it via social media and frequent television appearances. Several of the Irish Bishops are obsessed with the camera and indulge in the modern technology imagining that the public will forget how they treat those wronged by their church members.
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Unbelievably, Joe Duffy used to be trotted out as spokesman for the bishops, despite his cold and wooden demeanor.
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I don’t have a wooden heart, seriously like!
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I’d love to know how Egan is coping with all the unwelcome light shone on his clergy, given his self-proclaimed leadership-rôle as the scourge of liberalism and immorality. Let’s hope his own Father Pip remains above all this, or that really would upset the apple-cart.
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In the Lyttle Oratory in Fareham you have the PP, JPL, Matthew King (transitional deacon), Ryan Browne (first year, VEC Rome) and two propaedeutic year students: Farvin Gonsalves and Jack Ryan.
A full house is a happy house, as my mother used to say.
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Matthew King has been made PP of Gosport, replacing the friars who have decamped to Dundee.
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The seminary system is broken. Who signed off on Matthew Jolley? Why was JPL ordained with so many alarm bells clanging?Maynooth is not fit for purpose. Here’s another one James Leigh – seminarian for Hexham and Newcastle. He thought he was meeting a “sweaty” fourteen year old boy (he likes sweaty boys apparently). He met “paedophile hunters” instead.
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I do keep saying here that the abuse crisis is in no way over.
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Four Maynooth seminarians die in a car accident and go before the pearly gates of St Peter. St Peter asks them one question “have you ever touched a penis?” The first seminarian, Mark, answers, “yes, with the tip of my pinky finger.” St. Peter says, “well, dip the tip of your finger in the holy water, and you may be admitted.” The second seminarian confesses that he had touched one with both hands. St Peter says, ” well, wash your hands in the Holy Water, and you may be admitted.” The third seminarian, Steven, pushes in front and is all flustered. St Peter quizzed him as to why he pushed in front of John-Paul as there was no rush. Steven replies, “well, if I am to gargle the holy water, I’d better do so before John-Paul washes his arse in it.”
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It’s all crumbling within the Chancellery of Armagh. Eamon has his letters and evidence against Stephen Wilson but Mullaney is using all means to protect Wilson.
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Bishop Pat. I have rang the Parish today asking for a personal guarantee that my 19 year old son who attends Mass there will not be hit on by that man. I also asked that as a Parishioner, is my covenant envelope money funding WiFi at no.38 as that creep will logged on pulling his plonker watching porn all day. The Priest of Deacon who answered called me sad and hung up! I will be calling again tomorrow and every day until they respond.
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11:42 Lies, lies, lies, a 19 year old lad attending mass regularly these days is rarer than Rocking Horse ****.
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Yes, they’re too frightened.
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11:42am Where are you? Timbucktoo?
It is a Bank Holiday TODAY in any country even those dubiously claiming to be marginally civilised. And what kind of a feckin’ eejit are ya at all at all, sure “asking for a guarantee that the priest won’t hit on your son” is seriously going out there looking for trouble off all that Roman Church Mafia. Nobody could be that stupid, you are clearly a makey up bored catlick using your lonely Bank Holiday to undermine the focus of Bishop Pats blog. Never mind, the Bank reopens except in Scotland tomorrow so if you sweating it out on Tuesday as well, you’ll be back to what passes for “normal” on Wednesday.
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Jesus pat wha the hell is going on in Portsmouth diocese. Hasn’t Philip Egan got the balls to sort this shower of shites out. Why is Portsmouth diocese known as an ultra Catholic Diocese, yet we see priests such as JP and other gay men like the one in the cathedral? Jesus pat come on. It’s full of benders like. jesus almighty
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JPL could wire a car from he was 11 years old
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11:44 he’s like the rest of them, wiring off much more lucrative sources these days.
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So, he was trouble from an early age?
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2:45 I blame the parents like that aul doll contacting priests on a bank holiday. They don’t deal with legitimate complaints on a normal working day so don’t know what planet she on today.
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Egan knows them but he’s not saying anything. You are spot on as usual Pat, JPL, Lyons, Tobin, Madden and JP Smyth
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Fr Madden is on sabbatical in his home county of Galway. An ex-builder, he was called “Fr Dougal” by Westminster priests, when a simple seminarian there. He and the late George Lyons transferred to Portsmouth.
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2:08 Galway has produced some serious tulips for the RCC. Keep a close eye on the Blocklayer Fr Madden now he’s returned near his scheming, collared Tribal colleagues.
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Should we be surprised when Father Lyons continues to pull stunts like this? https://youtu.be/CteFr70k0VE
Father Lyons has no faculties and has been told not to present himself as a Catholic priest! What does he do? Goes on national TV as a priest at the Conservative Conference!
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11.47: Stop getting your knickers in a knot about Fr. Lyons. Go worry about REAL LIFE ISSUES..YOU PEOPLE…where do you come from?
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1:21 It’s fine & dandy for those people outside of holy orders to keep having a pop at us. They simply have no idea of the real world we clerics live in. Me, I’m just winging it, eyebrows, teeth, hair, sexuality, everything.
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Maybe I missed this, but why is Lyons suspended etc ? Did I pick up that Egan was trying to have him laicised ? I guess if he has nothing illegal that the police have an interest in, then he probably thinks that it’s quite fine for him to present himself in a colourful clerical shirt, and to call himself a Catholic priest. Note that he did not say Roman Catholic priest. If there is nothing illegal in what he has done / said, then he can just put two fingers up to Egan. He won’t get invited to the Chrism Mass and he won’t get funding or support from the diocese. Maybe he is able to support himself ? Whatever, there is no harm in giving Egan the finger. It reminds him that for all the episcopal puffing up and self-importance they actually have very little authority or power outside the narrow confines of the Catholic Church. Emperor’s new clothes and all that…..
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He made a lot of sense, though, for a Tory.
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He’s a Tory and a Catholic™️ priest. Those two things together make the likelihood infinitesimal that he will say anything truthful or even vaguely related to reality.
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Portsmouth are hopping mad with you Buckley
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11:48 Most of the cover up merchant Bishops & their cohorts are hopping mad with the media and with Bishop Pat Buckley and the other outlets that support victims and survivors of Roman Catholic Church related crime, corruption & criminality.
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Good, that’s + Pat’s job, to keep them on their toes and looking over their shoulders. If they won’t behave themselves or manage their own affairs honestly and transparently, then they need someone like + Pat to do it for them. And, if that leads to some discomfort and some sleepless nights for them, then so be it……
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I think a lot of you are missing the point. If nothing is going on with JPL then why is he not in charge of a parish?
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These challenges appear discounted, but they are never apprised for even the most elementary scrutiny without the compromise of ecclesiastical bias.
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Ray Lyons should welcome liacisation. He doesn’t believe in the word “priest” or in any clerical titles, except when there’s an opportunity to be interviewed or to write heterodox articles. Lay life will suit him. Though he’s an odd mix, being a theological liberal but also a lifelong member of the Conservative Party. No liberation theology for him.
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Any update on Kevin Connolly. Deep regret over Kevin Heery 😪 💔.
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Surgeons who hold the power of life and death over you on the operating table don’t undergo such psychological tests, and I can’t imagine that the job is without very real stresses and anxiety. There is something odd about the whole clerical psychological assessment. They say, surgeons think they are God, it’s priests that think they are.
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“Any priest who wants to be sexually active and retain credibility and authhenticity must do the following…”
All well said. In walks of life though people can find it difficult to talk to their parents, family, teachers, superiors and even their partners. Bishops and/or religious superiors should encourage an environment that facilitates an open door to those under their stewardship who wish to speak about something troubling them.
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My favourite thing on this blog is when the cathbots try to divert to other abusers and claim that bishop Buckley is being unfair by focusing on theit relentless abuse, corruption and crime.
They are obviously inspired by the gospel story where Jesus told Zaccheus what he’d been up to. Zaccheus replied, ‘But I’m not paying back fourfold until you’ve done everyone else who’s done what I’ve done because it ISN’T FAIR!’ And Jesus replied ‘Of course, Zacchaeus, that’s not a problem and would you like to be one of my apostles for the usual bribe?’
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‘The priesthood, ideally, shoukd be as diverse as the People of God.’
I don’t think the church wants the people of God to be diverse, apart from the things like race that you can’t change. Rather conformity and compliance has always been what is required.
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This comment is spot on. The (literally) parochial perspective is on display here on a daily basis. The Irish, in particular, like their own approach to dominate and colour everything and have no understanding of catholicity.
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Women’s rights groups want to outlaw prostitution but make abortion legal. What in their minds makes abortion a “body choice” but not consenting reasons?
There is civil law and the Christian way e.g. abortion. Abortion is not the Christian way. Coveting of others is not the Christian way. True committed love is beautiful. Everything else is a form of coveting no matter what way people want to dress it up.
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Don’t worry, ‘father’, neither is likely to concern you. 😂
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Dermot Farrell is sending students back to Maynooth. Good on him
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3:55pm Bishop Monahan prefers Spain now.
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Back to where his relation abused seminarians right under his nose.
Dermot “I know nothing” Ledwith Farrell
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Has he any students to send, though?
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An Oscott staff member was a frequent visitor of Gay saunas whilst in for formation. Therefore no surprise to read of the overt homosexuality there.
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Ooohhh, yeah, I had him ! Not seen him out and about for a while though, so maybe he’s being a bit more careful and travelling further for his extra curricular activities these days. He’s not in evidence in the saunas in the Midlands, so maybe heading further afield to London, Manchester etc.
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How many Priests publicly profess to be celibate. I don’t know any, but it is an assumption of most people that they are. Some are most certainly not celibate. How many people have gone up to their priest or any priest or releigious and ask them straight out “Are you Celibate?”
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What about the north belfast Pp who use to sniff coke and be on Grindr. He is off it now and is again celebate. We are only human and we too face challenges and fail. It’s how we respond to those challenges. God will forgive us our trespasses!
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Yeah, pull the other one ! Celibate now, my arse.
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4:08 Please go away, is it not bad enough Fr Madden is back in Galway, try Tipperary PLEASE.
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How do you people come to find out about Pats blog?
None of you know what it’s like to be a priest.
Yes it can be lonely and hard, but the vows I made, I did so voluntarily.
But I take them serious.
Shame on you all.
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Fr Les, spare your crocodile tears, victimhood and self-pity for someone else, for I for one believe that even if you try to be a good priest you are still a tacit supporter of a clerical culture that is toxic, dysfunctional and dangerous. Just by being a priest and staying a priest you are complicit in all the shit you hear about here on this blog. Better that you left and did something worthwhile which didn’t help contribute to the wickedness that seeps out from your clerical class.
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Ask Eugene O’Neill if I am a priest or not
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Dear Fr Dawson
Thank God one priest takes his vows serious.
Now play us a tune.
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Go to bed Les and say your rosary, stop pretending to be a priest.
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Pat at 3:09 a common way to deal with the cognitive dissonance of the bride of Christ being full of rapists is to try to place the problem in a particular place, eg modernists. You are right that this is of course wrong, and a statistical peak of abuse in the seventies does not prove causation by Vatican 2. To say it does just proves 3:06 doesn’t understand correlation v causation.
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The SSPX is explicitly set up to avoid modernism and has been absolutely plagued by abuse.
At other times the cathbots keep pointing out that abuse happens everywhere else.
Literally the only thing they prove is they don’t care about abuse, don’t understand it, and kids still aren’t safe in their churches.
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Fr Pat McGroin is an arrogant twat ‘be on your guard because I know who you are’ who does the chinless wonder think he is? Liam Neeson?
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4:18 “I have a very particular set of skills”.
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4:37 Yeah, right and what would they be, seem to remember you assaulting that teacher years ago.
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Coleraine gets all the priests that nobody wants
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We have Elsie and the Nun at Westminster , and now Phyllis and and his Priest Secretary at Portsmouth – You could not make it up !
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@ 4:34pm
You would make it up anyway!
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Why do bishops always always have the hottest new priest as there sexataries?
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Not in Brum. Nursie has his Dominic now for 14 years, and Dom is no looker, trust me. Maybe he’s good with the crozier and the mitre, however ! There are probably a few young bucks around the place who would love the job. Not sure that any of them would pass the looker test, though.
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We need an updated priest calendar
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Is the permanent deacon in Enniskillen going to Rome to chant the Gospel at Benedict’s funeral?
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I was once waiting for a bus outside Oscott and refreshed my Grindr to see who would be close. I was amazed to discover there wasn’t a single Grindr user close enough to be in the seminary.
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I think they would be smart enough to switch off the geo-location function.
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I remember when priests feared exposure by the News of the World. They were pussycats compared to this lot who appear to have deep pockets and time to reveal the filth at the heart of the RC Church. I guess in the hope of reform… Nat Meysenburg, a technologist at New America’s Open Technology Institute, said that experts had warned about something like this happening for years, and that it only took a particularly determined group of people with a very specific goal in mind and the time to work through the data. “The worry is that this gets replicated by all kinds of people for all kinds of reasons,” he said. “And now there’s a proof of concept out there.”
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Gregory Cormican was an obnoxious alcoholic who was hated by the other clergy who were jealous of his lifestyle
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5.07: How, in the name of all that’s holy would anyone be jealous of an alcoholic’s life style? You’re mad.
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How many times was he cautioned by the police for having sex in public? Who was the other two priests that accompanied him?
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Nobody seems to have asked why you need to have priests as General Secretaries of episcopal conferences. Clogher diocese seems to have priests to spare because it can afford to have Joe McGuinness doing the Gen Sec job for the Irish bishops. Why can’t a lay person do it, instead of having a desk priest?
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It’s easy. Lay people are not compromised by being dependent on the church and couldn’t be relied on to maintain omerta.
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Isn’t it wonderful to witness the 1000’s of people paying their respects to Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI. It mustnpain your merciless heart, Pat, that the thousands of lay faithful are doing so. Your hatred of all Catholic clergy is a moral disgrace. Ignorant and NOT OF CHRIST.
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Thousands of people also mourned the death of Hitler, Tito, Mussolinni etc.
“If a million people follow you; ask yourself.”Where have I gone wrong” (Gandhi)
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Jimmy Saville, too was praised to the rooftops at his funeral by Cardinal Cockroach
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That’s ‘Sir’ Jimmy Savile to you
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Yes, he did such an effective job of banning gays from seminary – santo subito.
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What, Hitler? Or Gandhi? 😂
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6:10 Your reminder that Roman Catholicism is about numbers and dominance, not ethics or morals.
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How 6:10 would have loved this gathering: completely right by his reckoning.
https://www.ushmm.org/collections/the-museums-collections/collections-highlights/julien-bryan/nazi-germany-1937/nazi-party-rally-at-nuremberg
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They weren’t paying respect; they just wanted to gawp at the carcass of an old rogue.
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Exactly, 9:10. Or possibly wanted to make sure he was dead.
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@ 6:10
Patsy, is that you know who with yet another Name!
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I bet +Pat’s response @ 6:35 shut you up Eusebius.
Seems like you’re not too fond of +Pat from how you’ve addressed him in your comment. Could it be said that you hate him?
Never mind. I’m sure +Pat will recall John 15:18-27, and 😃 smile.
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Every gay, bar none, has been on Grindr. That includes gay clergy and sems. I wonder who else is having their data examined? Even you Pat
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You mean like every priest has sex?
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Pat, are you an authentic priest living your vows? You made up your morals. Would Jesus approve of all your behaviour? Just curious. The ongoing revelations of double standards and hypocrisy is shattering whatever faith I have. These stories really challenge the core of my Catholic identity as a priest. The truth will eventually set us free but not without much pain and discomfort for the Church.
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As a secular priest, I never took vows.
As an independent priest, I am not bound by RC rules or regulations.
I try to be an authentic priest.
I have no secrets.
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Prior to (or at) your ordination Pat, did you not take the vow of celibacy and obedience to your Bishop?
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I never too vows. Only religious take vows.
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Sorry +Pat, I was under the impression from many diocesan priests whom I know (and unmarried Permanent Deacons) who all tell me that the vows of celibacy and obedience to their bishop were made during their formation. Is this only applicable in England?
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‘These stories really challenge the core of my Catholic identity as a priest.’
Rubbish. The core of the Catholic identity of the priest is deceit, crime and cover up, so won’t be shattered by these things.
What Pat has done is do what adults do and actually take responsibility for living an ethical life (which includes not trolling blogs with stupid comments).
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6.44: We know the type of twisted, vindictive mind people like you have. You certainly have swallowed Pat’s nasty narratives fully – and probably other “things” too!! But you are squeaky clean??
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You can’t be a priest and have a ‘private life’ totally opposed to your vocation. I think priests should have private lives restricted to family friends and any hobbies.
Magna commented about the possibility of suicide and blackmail yesterday. The only difficulty I have is that the men who had to keep homosexual lives secret in the sixties did it because it was illegal and would have had repercussions such as loss of employment.
However a priest who keeps his sex life private is doing it because he knows that life is not part of the deal he has signed up for. In those circumstances – where secrecy is made necessary by your own misdemeanors- I think you can reasonably expect to get outed.
It is also clearly in the public interest to know the reality of the cesspit so they can stop giving money to it.
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None of the last three popes have been great on addressing the clerical (and episcopal) sex abuse crisis. But their ranking of best to worst is obvious and only ideologues would debate it:
1) Benedict XVI
2) John Paul II
3) Francis (a distant third at that)
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So why are you debating it? 😂
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There’s no debate.
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How is a former disgraced Grindr member, Fr Rory Coyle, moved on to an assignment in London plus a flat and £25K a year
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6:44 It seems that Rory Coyle has slipped under the UK net using Gaelic language version of his name.
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There is an Armagh youngish priest constantly on grindr. He has a distinctive tattoo that he shows to very few. His profile pic is of his skinny torso. I have taken photos as proof.
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Bishop P. What are your thoughts about plenary indulgence. My PP keeps banging on about them with nearly one every week being advertised.
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Pat there are several priests in Belfast that use Grindr, I chatted to one for a long time.
He sent me an expiring face picture and I recognised him but don’t know his name, someone is bound to know it.
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Why didn’t you screenshoot the picture and offer it to Pat for publication?
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So why did the 1917 Code of Canon Law need to impose penalties on kiddy fiddling priests when they only started at the behest of Vatican 2?
This is what not studying science will do for you, folks.
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Priest who holiday in gay hotspots like Sitges and the Yumbo centre
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Oh it’s January! It’s when the clergy migrate for a month for sex, and then the private sti clinics are inundated
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@7:04pm
When you were doing your General Science CSE did they not tell you to compare and contrast incidence over time?
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9:24 Tell us you’ve popped on the internet because you’ve made a fool of yourself.
When you can provide evidence that Vatican 2 caused abuse come back.
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7:47 Why do you care? Those of us that stay here have to do holiday cover and instead of getting away when these sun seekers return, we end up doing sick cover as well. It ain’t no life for a straight cleric these days.
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9.48 the policy of abandoning the teaching of prayer prior to the council resulted in the upsurge of crime.
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7:05 The Canaries are very popular with all the Fr Budgies this time of year.
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Why has there been no coverage of the gay killer in Eire, that foreigner, that castrated two innocent men?
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That damn Syrian – coming over here and killing our own citizens – I really wish we had the death penalty for foreigners- because the majority are well behaved
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Pat you wrote a damning letter about a priest once and found him out. Do you know what Treanors response was to him?
“For god sake be more careful and discreet, don’t get caught out”
If that’s the attitudes oh his holiness then the behaviour of priests on the ground is filtered from the top.
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7:24 That’s what they do. Bishops cover up for their naughty priests in plain view and slander whistleblowers.
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Every clergyman has been with at least one fellow gay priest – it’s fact – maybe more so from the 2000’s onwards. Unless straight
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Fr Des Wilson would be turning in his grave at all this, I know you and him got on very well Pat. He was like yourself, couldn’t stand the hierarchy or the hypocrisy of it all. One priest he did not like at all was Fr McBrearty, couldn’t stand the flamboyance and fakeness.
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He was cremated you fool
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Stirring in his urn, then, if you’re going to be pedantic about it.
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@7:53pm
He was going to be toast anyway😏
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7:53 Total waste of money, Satan would have done it for free. Another cash for ash money making racket for church.
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This blog is about Bishop Egan. Too many comments have been made about other matters. Egan needs to be watched carefully. At his ordination he said that he hoped to be an ‘orthodox bishop’. Another Bishop (after the burial of a good freind of mine) told me that there was concern about this amongst his colleagues because Egan was as good as saying they were not orthodox. They didn’t like that, and rightly so. Remember, Egan was VG to Bishop Mark Davies, another ‘orthodox cleric’. Murphy O’Connor said that Davies’s name would have been jetisoned if he had been at the meeting considering him as a bishop. Watch Egan. He is a rigid thinker. I think the following sums him up. I am an Anglican. It happened that I dropped in on a mass (in London) Egan celebrated. There was a prayer for the conversion of Engand. I found it arrogant and very wrong. He doesn’t recognise Christian of other demoninations. If that is orthodox, it is very wrong. I think many priests in Portsmouth diocese must be dismayed and very unhappy.
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The fact that CMOC would have blackballed him, raises Bishop Egan in my estimation.
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@ 8:00pm
He was quite right to pray for the conversion of England we don’t want any of that ecumenical shite. Especially now you’ve got your first non binary vicar!🙄
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All these pervert priests & the nasty vile serpents that lie & cover up for them are very dangerous individuals indeed. Priests plastered all over social media with their politicians & police & all the local elites, it’s a network of crooked from start to finish. They making a mockery out of mass goers.
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Reporting it to UK charity regulator isn’t good enough. It would be sensible to report to UK pension regulator as well.
https://www.thepensionsregulator.gov.uk/
Also it might be useful to apply in UK financial law re ‘misuse of fund’ as well.
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That’s a good idea. Turn up the heat on +Phylis.
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8:38 If Phyllis can’t take the heat, they need to step out of the kitchen.
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8.38: EVIL and VILE, like all HATERS on this blog.
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At the moment, commenters have acted as judge, jury and executioner with the very scant information that’s in the public domain and without the accused’s exercising his right of reply.
Is breaching a sexual norm such as that alleged here comparable to smoking in an enclosed space in the presence of another person without their consent?
Is transgression of a sexual norm the only kind of moral transgression?
Are sexual desire and ministry mutually exclusive?
Is God interested only in sexual sin?
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This “call me father’ melarkey is quite a thing amongst the D&C priests. Gives them a sense of importance. Isn’t that right Mssrs Eugene O’Hagan and Eugene O’Neill . Buffoons
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Here – https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/3035598
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If you know any information about the death of CS and his links with Portsmouth, instead of spreading rumours in Southampton you need to go to the police.
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https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=246871&subid=0
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I am sick of this fuckinh blog ruing the lives of good clergy men
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They ruin their own lives by shagging around and telling the world their celebrates.
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8:43 Pull yourself together, Father Wildside.
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Deaf girl at 8.40pm
Gave you my reply yesterday at 8.38pm. That’s all.
Won’t reply back 👆 cos enough said.
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You are getting very touchy. Have you been eating too many acid drops in
Copenhagen?
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Phyliss looks like a Gammon; a red face after drinking alcohol may be a warning sign — a new study has found that people who get flushed after drinking is at increased risk for developing high blood pressure.
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8:56 Phyllis should have a few slices of pineapple with his gammon, it’d count as part of his 5 a Day.
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I came out as a lesbian thanks to your courage and blog, thank you Bishop Pat
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https://ukdaily.news/southhampshire/caring-for-the-portsmouth-retired-priests-fund-70948.html
https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/16206/concern-over-retired-priests-fund-in-portsmouth
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9:35pm Thank you Deaf Guy – the links that you provided are very interesting and useful.
Happy New Year 🥳
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Pat, I came out as a nun thanks to you Pat.
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Pat, the Bolletino of the Holy See will tomorrow announce a Nuncio for Dublin. A german prelate will reside on the Navan Rd.
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Portsmouth has some good honest priests. But it also has some shady characters too, well known for their un-celibate ways. Phylis Egan for all her faults is trying to adhere to what the church tells us to do – the Roman Catholic Church. Being ordained in 1990s late, I have seen many of my contemporaries lose the plot big time. Some of these men still are clerics in the diocese but they’re a dying breed.
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