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A HEXHAM AND NEWCASTLE PRIEST SPEAKS.

ROBERT BYRNE

Dear Brother Priest,

A letter arrives ten days after it is written.

I imagine the VG wrote it and then handed it up the line to be scrutinised and edited

The fact that Byrne reluctantly submitted his resignation means that he did not go. He was given no alternative and was pushed.

He was allowed to save face by “resigning.”

That begs other questions. Why was he pushed?

– the alleged sexual assault of a priest?

– maladministration of H&N?

– other matters that have yet come to light?

The strength of the alleged priest victim’s evidence will have a strong bearing on the police outcome.

The priest’s bishop has been very good to him and is supporting him.

The Church investigation will be held in secret, and the main aim will be a major effort to avoid scandal and to protect the reputation 😀 of the Church.

Byrne’s treatment of the native clergy was despicable but sadly not uncommon.

Making any member of the Congregation of the Oratory is dicey. They are a strange and eccentric bunch, and so many of them seem to carry pink handbags.

The fact that Byrne wanted to allow a convicted paedophile to live with him in the Bishop’s house was crazy and when his safeguarding office opposed his plan, he had it in for them afterwards.

His relationship with the deceased Canon McCoy was also crazy. Byrne showed an atrocious lack of judgement.

A bishop buying a million pound house in these days of unheard economic disaster is a disgrace and a scandal.

Byrne’s appointment is a massive condemnation of the RC’s way of appointing bishops.

136 replies on “A HEXHAM AND NEWCASTLE PRIEST SPEAKS.”

Pat, you demean yourself by posting supposed funny pics of The Two Popes. It’s unfortunate you chose to print this photo. Surprised at you doing so on the eve of Pope Benedict’s funeral. The story about Bishop Byrne reflects a guy who was absorbed in himself, his power and role. He abused his role as a Bishop in so many inappropriate ways. He is not deserving of any such title.

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That’s not a funny picture, that’s objective reporting of his last words. May God smite you for your cynicism.

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Innocent until proven guilty is a legal maxim not a human one – humans like to speculate, gossip and wonder and occasionally be amused that a tubby self important bishop has been reported to the police – yes, innocent until proven guilty but often ‘no smoke without fire.’

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I know it’s innocent until proven guilty, but I’m afraid + Bobby is toast. There will be no coming back from this kind of thing. There must be something there for +McMahon to take it seriously, and for the Nuncio to have been involved in moving + Bobby on. I think the best outcome he will get is prayer and penance, he may even find himself laicised from episcopacy and priesthood. Whatever, I would expect the Cong Orats will have some responsibility and oversight for him. Rightly so. But,. as for the rest, well it does look a bit bleak. I’m genuinely sorry about that. Both for + Bobby and anybody else (an assumed victim ?) included. It’s just very sad all round.

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10:45 My hard drive (well, SSD but that’s academic) is full of porn and loads of documents about my life.
All of which are completely legal and if the police ever seized it they’d return it with no charge.
I’m also not pretending to be celibate and do masturbate to the porn on the SSD.
Welcome to the real world where integrity doesn’t mean pretending, shame, insinuations and threats like it does for cathbots and priests.

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What a sad, bleak existence @11:56am. Supporting exploitation and modern slavery too, via your habits.

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2:04 As I wrote the comment I thought it would be triggering to the ‘faithful’ (full of 💩 more like). 😂

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10:35 They’re not gullible fools, they’re knowingly supporting a criminal organization and are, therefore, to be considered accessories.

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Celibacy is totally unnatural and is not scriptural. Until this is scrapped we will have criminal sexual acts like this from our clergy. It is another rule made up by the RCC. However, those who enter priesthood know the rules of their organisation before entering clerical life. A man or woman is designed to have company if they so choose. Forcing them to be on their own can no doubt lead them to seek a form of escape. However, what about them being ontologically changed and imbued with the Holy Spirit? in truth the only change that takes place is that they now think they are superior and can do whatever they want with money and people. The whole system is weird and unnatural.

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Celibacy is scriptural, Jesus was celibate, he talked about eunachs for the Kingdom, praised those who gave up spouses to follow him, and St Paul said it was better not to marry.

Anyway, sola scriptura isn’t in the Bible.

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9.47

Celibacy may be scriptural, but it is not a biblical imperative, either morally, or normatively

We don’t know that Jesus said any such thing about eunuchs: it’s just as likely that those words were attributed to him by a gospel author or editor. Other gospel words arguably were. Remember celibacy had become the watchword, so to speak, of certain early Christians post-Ascension: Paul himself, for example, urged celibacy among Jesus’ followers, not principally because he believed it facilitated evangelisation, but because it had become generally accepted that Jesus’ second coming was imminent, and, by some like Paul, that marriage and family were, therefore, a pointless inconvenience at best, and a distraction and hindrance at worst.

Did Jesus praise people who, apparently, had given up spouses (and, likely, children, too) to follow him? Would Jesus have encouraged people (more likely than not, men) to abandon marital responsibilities to their wives and children, for his glory? Would Jesus have been such a shit? Perhaps the question should be: What kind of God do you Romanists worship?

From what we know (or, in the case of Romanism, should have known) of Jesus’ character, he would not have encouraged any such thing! Those words apparently spoken by him are clearly attributive. If historical Romanism had paid more attention to Scripture than so-called ‘Tradition’, it could have worked this out all on its own.

As for ‘sola scriptura’, the words don’t actually appear in the Bible, true; but nor does the Bible condemn either the concept or practice. So, your point loses traction; in point of fact, you don’t have a point at all.

However, one could reasonably argue that ‘sola scriptura’ is implicit if one truly believes the Bible to be the word of God. Isn’t God’s word alone, sola scriptura, enough for you presumptiously arrogant Romanists? (Ever wondered why your morally chequered history… and then some… is strewn with such atrocious events as schism, the Crusades, and the Papal Inquisition, not to mention systemic child rape and its cover up?)

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Jan 4, 2023 at 9:47 am
Which begs the question. Was Jesus gay? The truth of the matter is we will never know. “Gave up their spouse’s to follow him” you mean cut, and, ran, that seems like an easy way out of responsibilities, and, still happening today. Did Paul suggest not to marry, if a person is batting for the other side, that would make sense.
1)
Was Jesus queer? – Centre for Gender Research – UiOhttps://www.stk.uio.no › english › research › pride › wa…
28 May 2020
2)
Was Jesus Homosexual? – Semantic Scholarhttps://pdfs.semanticscholar.org › …
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by R Dole · 2019

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9:47 You can also find rape, murder and incest in the bible. Obviously the Reformers were wrong and the Church of Rome is more closely inspired by some biblical narratives than they thought.

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Queenievenus, we can know with historical certainty that Jesus was not gay because the ideas of sexual orientation and identity which underpin the idea of being gay did not then exist.

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Is your tongue in your cheek, 5.45?

The terminology we use today for homosexuality may not have existed in Jesus’ time, but homosexual orientation itself did.

Homosexuality isn’t an idea. 🤣 So, yes, Jesus may indeed have been… gaaaaaay!

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11:21 clergy sign up to RCC in full knowledge of the terms and conditions of employment. It’s not a “secret”, unlike the rest of their nasty little lies & secrets that keep clergy busy. It’s like someone made queasy by blood “choosing” to be a doctor or nurse knowing full well that they will not be at their best doing the most crucial aspect of their job when a patient is critical & losing blood. A Totally contradictory & inexplicable position for a well educated person to place themselves in. What is most concerning to the public is the psychological pattern of some deviants entering the church in the full knowledge & intent to circumvent its rules and teachings come hell or high water and to collude with others to inflict revenge on anyone they perceive as a threat to their duplicitous “chosen” lifestyle.

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There is a mythology among diocesan priests that celibacy and solitude are the problem, and they look longingly at religious life. Anyone who knows religious life knows that it is full of dysfunction, bullying, competition, and people not talking to each other.
I think the problem is that the people allegedly called to priesthood are so dysfunctional they are incapable of relating to other people.

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It ain’t God for two reasons : one, he didn’t reinvent priesthood, since Jesus’ death and resurrection had obviated it; and, two, he didn’t call paedophiles to the priesthood, whose conduct, and its cover-up by a paedo-friendly priestood, is tearing apart the Assembly.

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10:07 is there any bingo hall in Ennis now or does everyone play bridge now.

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You know the most amazing thing? It’s the number of people who post on here whinging about Pat, you name it.
You would think, if this blog were that dissatifactory, they would go away or start their own.
But they don’t, do they.
Keep going Pat.

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Bishop Pat, without your blog, one wonders if Bunter would have gotten away with this as was desired by his reluctant resignation. It demonstrates what an enormous contribution you make to holding the RCC accountable.

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11:27 most of them are clerical stalkers & their Mafia from the more compromised Irish diocese like Meath, Down & Connor & Killaloe

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I’m glad that Bishop Byrne is being investigated but cautious McMahon willl follow through – he ordained Jolley and find it hard if not impossible to believe he’s an impartial judge of such matters – he’s a notoriously clumsy and gauche prelate (notwithstanding his polite response to Pat).

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Yes, he set up and led the Oxford Oratory at the invitation of Couve de Murville. However, I believe he also wanted to get out of the Birmingham Oratory which was riddled with tensions; these blew up again with the still mysterious case of the Birmingham Three.

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A child in Irish State “Care” is 6 times more likely to die than children in the general population. A child dies every 2 weeks in TUSLA “Care” on average. (1/6,500)
A child in TUSLA “Care” is far more likely to be sexually assaulted or placed on psychotropic drugs
44% of TUSLA “Care” recipients are dumped on the streets at age 18, still ongoing despite this current unprecedented Irish homeless crisis.
500 children went “missing” from TUSLA “Care” in a decade and many were later found to have been trafficked into prostitution
A child in TUSLA “Care” is twice as likely to suffer from PTSD than troops returning from Afghanistan & 4 times more severe.
More than 50% of Irish prostitutes were in State “care”, 43% of the Irish Prison population were in Irish State “Care”
Remember this next time any member of the Irish Roman Catholic Church recommends or refers your family to Irish social services. The RC Safeguarding service works closely with TUSLA.
Contact your local TD & ask them to demand RYAN REPORT TWO immediately. Children need to be protected from TUSLA & an investigation into their close relationship with deviant Irish clergy & church members with criminal backgrounds is a matter of serious and urgent public interest.

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1:24. Thank you for this information on TUSLA – no wonder they are so closely aligned with the Irish Roman Catholic Safeguarding “outfit”. Birds of a feather certainly flock together.

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I think it is rather disingenuous to link Dermott Donnelly’s move with his death. His move to Stanley made sense as it meant he was much nearer the Youth Village.

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10.09am – At the start of this post when it is mentioned about the replacing of the Dean of the cathedral who has since died “after the stress of a sad move”

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Actions speak louder than words
Stop LOOKING for the best you had
Hoped to find in organised religion.

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Asking McMahon to investigate Byrne is like asking Jimmy Saville to investigate Garry Litter or Boris Johnson to investigate Baroness Mone or Hitler to investigate Oswald Mosley and so on.
Whitewash, Cover Up, Hypocrisy and Old Boys Club.
On the other hand – report to the police – they decide witness is credible, there is a case to answer and prosecution can proceed – different ball game then and Byrne in deep poopy.

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Feel sorry for the priest – the victim – the pressure willl be on for him to withdraw his allegation and of course all sexual predators know the threshold for evidence is high in criminal proceedings and unless substantive the case won’t see the light of day.

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Do you know of a single case where a bishop has been punished by the church for these delicts without being pushed by negative publicity?
I think Byrne will end up in retirement unless he is found guilty of a crime, like O’Brien.

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“Rigid
Check out how your priests or pastors talk about sin. In my experience, those who are focused on sin have a problem with their own sins. Check their speech to see if they are fixated on sin, usually yours…”
In his Christmas message, Tom Deenihan mentions peace 25 times!! Tom must have a problem with his own peace? How can Tom Deenihan live in peace as he continues his morally reprehensible persecution of Dom Benedict?
Tom Deenihan, Declan Hurley, Joseph Gallagher and Paul Connell must turn away from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.
“Byrne’s appointment is a massive condemnation of the RC’s way of appointing bishops.”
It is a massive condemnation Pat. The likes of Byrne and Deenihan are not fit for episcopal office. Episcopal leaders must lead with integrity.

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Seamus you are obsessed with Deenihan, is there any word from the Abbey of Saint Joseph de Clairval? Will they withdraw their support for Deenihan’s Silverstream charade?

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It’s as obvious as the nose on your face that a monastery cannot be interfering in another monastery’s affairs.
The Abbey of Saint-Joseph de Clairval are assisting Silverstream. They can set out conditions under which they will assist Silverstream. If Tom and the Silverstream community continue their persecution of Dom Benedict, the Abbey of Saint-Joseph de Clairval can withdraw their support and kick the dust off their feet.
Through their current actions, the Abbey of Saint-Joseph de Clairval are facilitating and supporting the ongoing persecution of Dom Benedict. Shame on them.

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10:36, Dom Bories has had two weeks to reflect on Pat’s email to Tom Deenihan. Dom Bories or Fr. Basil, the temporary Superior of Silverstream Priory, will surely provide clarity?

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4:49 name any episcopal leaders in Ireland that possess integrity?

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2.11
Pope Francis doesn’t think so. Ecclesial communion is now as dead as its progenitor whose funeral takes place tomorrow. Pope Francis reminds us that the one, holy, universal and apostolic church needs good Anhlicans.

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2.11
Pope Francis doesn’t think so. Ecclesial communion is now as dead as its progenitor whose funeral takes place tomorrow. Pope Francis reminds us that the one, holy, universal and apostolic church needs good Anhlicans.

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Fr Charles Sobhraj did speak out publicly about this, and look where he has ended up. Is keeping silent better?

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Some Clergy are doing a lot more than buying million pound houses +Pat. There are some serious movers and shakers busy feathering and tiling their own nests.

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Where is Bishop Byrne now?
Wonder what the view is in Brum? He is their man and a product of that deliciously dark and nefarious diocese

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What is the criteria to be a Priest?
Sexually deviant
Sexually repressed
Homosexual
Rapist
Liar
Control freak
Narcissist? Tell me some more

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Men who are uncomfortable with their own sexuality or feel they will be inadequate sexually are attracted to priesthood.

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I’d go a bit further, Seamus, re ‘focused on their sins’. Mine actually focused on his sins but projected his sinning onto his parishioners. He tries a different tac now some of us have seen the light. The ‘different tac’ isn’t working on our psyches now either. Christians are now a thorn in the side of the RCC. We’re being ‘offered’ Catholic Christians, as a possible ‘cover up’ from being RCs. As a priest’s ‘housekeeper’ once said “Its far more important to be a Christian than a Catholic.” What a complete and utter mess my Church is in.
As for the ‘disingenuous’ commenter, I’d say disingenuous my ****! That person was likely green with envy at Dermott’s gift of supporting the Youth – but interesting it was built miles away from the ‘main throughfare’.
A Guardian wrier once parodied a previous headline ‘We’ve fiddled the figures’ to ‘We’ve figured the fiddles.’ Some parishioners – but not yet enough to make a positive difference, sadly, have, at last, arrived at the Church’s fiddles and crimies’. This blog seeks to promote truth and understanding. I think its good for we ‘ordinary parishiiners or ‘laiety’.
The Church does not want Truth. How dare you, the lot of you, with your little power kegs, blast Christ’s people with your lies, subterfuge & evil ways. I think of my brothers and sisters trusting, easy people, giving their pennies & £s to prop up this deceitful market place – we know what Christ thought of those! And in Luke’s Gospel ‘it would be better to tie a stone round your neck and drown, than to harm one of these little ones.’
I no longer give financial offerings to RC. Some of us give of our time and HS gifts – it is deeply painful to discover the truth but we have every right to know. We are & have been, through generations, financing and funding evil. One hopes Christ can forgive our naivety and help His people to come to terms with our stupidity, our pain and the oppressive fascist regime of much of your ‘Canon’ Law.
Amen – and thank you Seamus Viii.

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Desire for sex, performance, and enjoyment can nosedive. Many simply avoid sex altogether, new research shows. In fact, morbidly obese people are 25 times more likely to report problems in their sex lives, compared with normal-weight people.

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So – whether or not someone allegedly or is convicted of child and / or vulnerable adult sexual abuse depends on if they are fat! You lot really, really need some secular training & to think about your infantile comments – and attempting to distract us from real reality – as opposed to ‘clerical reality’ is not working – sorry n’all that. Surely you have learned (?!) that abusers are not dirty old men in raincoats that hang around parks & schools – there are some – but we now know stats & iicsa AND research that many of you are actually academic & some Oxford dons ( Ampleforth Abbey Inaquiry) Who funded the ‘research’ and why? Was it Weightwatchers ? 😲😂

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Is Byrne taking cue from Liz Truss’s resignation letter, anyone with a jot of common sense didn’t believe her either.

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@11.09am If that’s the case and you know them to be priests then name them. If you won’t name them then shut up gasbag.

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When will the faithful of Hexham and Newcastle be informed their bishop has been reported to the police for a serious offence and (one hopes) placed on administrative leave? Or do bishops not have to suffer the ignominy of administrative leave pending an investigation and be told not to present themselves as a cleric or wear clericals?

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All our good rural brethren want to enjoy our finest of parochial Gaelic games in autumn and winter. If someone wants to host a blog calling out wrongdoing or host videos guiding people on the right path, there are going to be critics and snipers. It has to be water off a ducks back.
Take your points and the goals will come. Goals do not come easily and you have to be able to takes a few hits alongs the way.
Sometimes in politics, you get a wallop according to Enda Kenny. People of courage and conviction have to be able to take a wallop for doing the right thing.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

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Fr Ken, he is no longer their bishop. He has resigned, gone, kaput. They will never see him again. As this blog is such a loud, then surely they will all know by now.

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It does seem a bit strange that nothing has been said publicly about Byrne being reported to the police and his case forwarded to the Vatican. The line still seems be that he has just retired. However, + McMahon said in his response to + Pat that the police and Vatican were now part of the picture. Is this one standard for bishops and another for ordinary clergy ? Because, if it were you and me, mere clerics at the coalface, we would in similar circumstances have been suspended, something would have been said by the bishop to our parishioners, and we would have to leave the clergy house, and disappear. At least until the whole thing was clarified. But, that doesn’t seem to be the case for Byrne. I think that + McMahon should post something on the H & N website saying exactly what has happened and what Byrne’s status is at present. As to the press, well, it will not take them long to sniff out this story, and the good people of H & N will learn of it in their newspapers. I think they might well be pissed off not to have been told by + McMahon.

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12.18

Are you a H&N priest? If you are, why don’t YOU inform the good people of H&N about Byrne?

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If he did, he would be persecuted

Not all priests are called to martyrdom ‘ either red or white

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@ 1:27 – No I’m not a priest of H&N, but not far away. I don’t especially want the press the have this stuff on their front pages. But, what I would like is for McMahon to be honest and, if as seems the case, to correct Byrne’s personal spin that he has resigned. Be honest, and tell the people he was asked to resign because of a number of issues, amongst which is a credible accusation of misbehaviour, and in these circumstances he is suspended until the matter is resolved. Just as would happen with you and me. What is good for goose is also good for the gander.

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Some of us have tried but you need to remember there’s lifetime’s of Pavlova’s dog conditioning by the Church and often children’s families – as iicsa survivors said ‘ Father X was God to us ‘. Faithful people need to be helped to know the facts. It may help us if clergy come out with balanced written info, not just ‘the Bishop’s letter read out at Mass. Faithful ( you don’t deserve our support btw) as is happening here on Pat’s blog, need to know to apply your clerical favourite ‘discernment’ and then possibly a bit of trust might be restored.

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For nothing more glorious, nothing nobler, nothing surely more honorable can be imagined than to belong to the One, Holy Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church – Pope Pius XII, Encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi, no. 91

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Is there an official church position on homosexuality and unofficial position held by clergy?
If church teaching has changed will the Vatican let us know please.

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The alleged reforms of Francis brought nothig… they still act as an abuser in a relationship. They tell you, “I love you. I will change. But, if you leave me, you’re disgusting and ugly, so you better don’t say anything against me. God doesn’t like it”

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Robert says that Our Lady told him to tell people to pray for all priests and bishops that she can form them to be more Christ like. Bishops and priests are only human and have failings says Our Lady.

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12:08, Robert admits his mistakes. He walked into the adoration chapel without taking off his shoes. He won’t let it happen again. Bishops could follow Robert’s example. Learn from their mistakes and ensure there is not a repeat.
Robert was full of praise for Tom Deenihan after Christmas Eve. Robert can pray for bishops. Where is the meaningful response from the bishops however? People can pray for Tom Deenihan to stop his persecution of Dom Benedict. Where is the action of Tom catching himself on and doing the right thing?

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When bishops don’t act, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s be abuse someone has something in them: Mr K P O’Brien refused to act in the case of Steve Gilhooley, Andy Monaghan (nephew of auxiliary bishop Monaghan), Gerry Prior (who committed suicide) and others. Simples.

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I beginning to think that it is genuine gay people that God is calling to the priesthood as they will be unable to have a family and will instead be able to focus 100 per cent on God’s family.

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The RCC is a dysfunctional organisation with a dysfunctional mindset and culture throughout. It does not call out dysfunction, it covers it up but will call out anyone that questions it. That’s why it tolerates Egotistical and arrogant clergy like Kirby and punishes Dom Benedict by casting him adrift without support or his letter of good standing.

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Dom Benedict should return to his former church, Orthodoxy, where, according to Bishop Pat, he is still respected and esteemed. Benedict, shake the dust from your feet and move on.

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5:47 Well it is the natural step when you accept that Rome schismed, and the Orthodox churches hold the Catholic faith.

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Orthodoxy has its corruption, but it’s more like the scruffy neighbourhood gang knocking off corner stores vs. the Roman Church’s international La Cosa Nostra.

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Of course, Orthodoxy has retained many things lost in the Catholic Church in the chaos following the Council, hence its attraction to many Catholics.

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I won’t be here for here for a while if that’s any consolation to you 🤷‍♂️.
Nudge from HS not to contribute as I found some peace by restrain or not contributing at all when this blog is on 🔥.

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Definitely NOT!!! He speaks with forked tongue 😝 between this blog and another blog under a different name.

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Your woman drug pin that was done for drugs in Peru has been claiming (boasting – but it’s more shameful than boasting) to have slept with a priest on a number of occasions in later 2019 and she will be revealing all in the papers in the coming weeks

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My audience misses me, and in sadness sings,
awaiting my musings and my thoughts and things.
I am busy this afternoon, but will pen a verse soon,
so do not despair, I am almost there!

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Pat Happy new year to you and yours in 2023.
I heard a very interesting programme this a.m. regarding men who donate sperm to aid couples having difficulty conceiving a pregnancy.
It would be interesting to know how many altruistic Roman Catholic priest donated their sperm, how many live births have there been born, and their reaction to the new law that allows children conceived by donation, can have access to the donor information from this year.
If they donated after 1 April 2005
If you donated sperm, eggs or embryos after 1 April 2005, people conceived from your donation will be able to find out the following information when they reach 16 and 18 years of age. This is information you will have been asked to give at the time of your donation.
1)
Rules around releasing donor information – HFEAhttps://www.hfea.gov.uk › donation › donors › rules-arou..

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I have had dealings with +McMahon. He is the gobshite of gobshites. He will do anything to cover his large behind, even if it throwing innocent people under the bus. An untrustworthy witness. Don’t expect any justice from him.

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Perverting the course of justice in Roman Catholic Church interests is a grave matter of public interest.

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In all the nonsense written and discussed here about the Oxford Oratory the Down and Connor connection has been missed. The Oratory is where Eamon Manning aka Br Benedict was in formation and where he was ordained in Sept 2020 by + Robert Byrne.
Quite traddy, has altered his voice to sound a lot posher, so no surprise that he’s from Portaferry and a close friend of Fr Dominic McGrattan. Benedict – that name will date him in religious life – might well have a touch of the purple soon from the newly-arrived Bishop.

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Excellent that a small Catholic primary school in a small village has produced two priests from the same class. His ad orientem First Mass in Portaferry made a very positive impression on all who assited at it.

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Which orders/dioceses refused to accept Manning before he was embraced by the C.O.’s

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I hope that the priest alleged victim gets better support than that offered by the ACP, such as their disastrous handling of the Fr Geoghan case.

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Of course being from a cathbot source, rather than simply reporting it it has to be presented as a martyrdom 😂
‘Christianity is the most persecuted belief in the world’
Do y’all ever stop feeling sorry for yourselves?

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Your daily reminder that Roman Catholics think any criticism, even after their clergy’s prolific crimes, is hate.
Don’t expect them to have any understanding of abuse or safeguarding.

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6:39pm You are wrong and despite what the RCC did to members of my family, we take no pleasure in seeing violence or vandalism of any kind directed at church personnel or property, local people of modest means pay for the upkeep of church property and this should be remembered and respected. If the authorities force the RCC to sell church property to redress victims, it is better for all concerned that properties are well maintained and in good order for resale, mindless vandalism is not the answer and certainly is not the objective of victims & survivors of church related abuse.

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Regarding Bishop Byrne’s stance on grey clerical shirts, he’s in good company. The late Bishop Edward Daly of Derry forbade his priests from wearing shirts in any colour other than black.

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Happy New Year from MerseyCare / Anglican Diocese of Liverpool Adult Social Servicessays:

MerseyCare NHS (Merseyside Criminal Justice Department ~ Anglican Adult Social Services ~ similar to Catholic Social Services -, now called Nugent Care?
A happy New Year from an ”appendage ” of the Civil Courts / Anglican Diocese of Liverpool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZ2HlA3ARM

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I heard that Bishop Seamus caused some difficulties for Bishop Byrne , perhaps couldn’t be in his shadow.
Bishops house expense was an outrage. As for Father D pretty sure he would have wanted to stay at the Catehdral, most certainly he spent no time at Stanley apart from Sunday mass was otherwise totally absent, and why wasn’t he made a Canon afterwards as was the tradition for Cathedral Deans.

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