JOHN PAUL LYTTLE originated on the Isle of Wight but had Belfast family.
For whatever reason, he moves to Belfast to live with his granny in Whitehouse, Belfast.
He entered the seminary in Belfast to be a priest for Down and Connor diocese.
In the Belfast, he went out at night to the gay cruising areas to get “action.” This was well known to his fellow seminarians.
At some stage, the PP of Whitehouse – the convicted Fr James Donaghy – where his granny lived got him drunk and ttued to sexually seduce him.
He says he repelled Donaghy and thought it was terrible that Donaghy got him drunk and tried to seduce him.
Soon afterwards, JPL left Belfast and ended up in Oscott Seminary. He also appears to have time in Wonersh and Allen Hall ?
At this time, he had been accepted by Bishop Crispin Hollis as a seminarian for Portsmouth.
In Oscott, he ended up in the bed of the seminary rector.
Hollis dismissed him from Oscott. The seminary rector was “reassigned”.
He spent some time with the Capuchins in Donegal and Africa and with another religious order.
He reappeared in London in the home of Fr Ray Lyons, who had been suspended and reinstated and was acting as a school chaplain.
One evening, he came home with some young men from a gay bar. They were drinking on the upper floor of the house, and JPL fell from the window and suffered life-threatening head injuries.
The three young men in his company were not charged with any crime.
JPL remained seriously ill in the hospital, and it was feared he would not survive.
As it happened, he had a miraculous or semi miraculous recovery, surprising all the medics.
He next appeared as a volunteer minister to the marginalised on the Portsmout diocesan website and wearing a clerical collar.
Then, out of the blue, Bishop Egan ordained him hurriedly and on a week day.
We next see him turning up in a Reading Parish where he was assistant priest and hospital chaplain.
It was in Reading that he invited a young policeman to the parochial house for dinner. The PP was away for the night. He plied the young man with alcohol and tried to seduce him. He had told the young man that he watched gay porn, was always horny and masturbated a lot.
The young man fled the house and reported the incident to the police and Bishop Egan.
The young man remains completely dissatisfied with Egan and the diocesan safeguarding.
JPL was on the move again.
He was saying that he was conducting research for Bishop Egan.
Eventually, Egan arranges for him to live in a church house in Fareham. Portsmouth in the parish controlled by Canon John Cooke.
JPL is drinking in a local pub from 1.30 pm daily.
In the pub, he meets a young part-time barman and his long-term girlfriend.
JPL invites the young barman for dinner and drinks.
After dinner, a gramme of cocaine is produced, and JPL and the barman share it in a room with a prominent crucifix on the wall.
JPL then tries to seduce the barman. The barman refused his advances and leaves very hurt and angry.
The barman contacts me, and I inform Egan, safeguarding abd Canon Cooke in Fareham.
QUESTIONS ARISING
1. Why has Bishop Egan continued to let JPL live in diocesan properties that he uses for drinking, drug taking, and attempted sexual assault?
2. Has Egan referred JPL for detox and rehabilitation?
3. Does Egan not realise he made a massive mistake in ordaining JPL and that he should be laicised?
4. Is Egan or other clerics compromised by JPL either by being involved with him or JPL having the dirt on them?
5. Does Egan and Cooke not realise that if JPL harms anyone after they have been made aware of everything, they leave themselves open to serious litigation?
6. Is Egan and others going to allow this to continue until someone, either JPL or another, is seriously injured or killed?
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
154 replies on “JOHN PAUL LYTTLE – THE TIMELINE.”
John Paul had exhausted his options on the Isle of Wight.
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1:08 has John Paul not tried any of the South Western diocese of Irish Republic. These guys in Kerry, Waterford & Killaloe diocese sound as if wouldn’t bat an eyelid about his past and welcome Fr John Paul with open arms.
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3:53 Not even Fr JPL is that desperate.
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Vatican spokespersons say it is impossible to estimate the exact amount of its wealth but global financial institutions estimate it to amount to between $10 billion and $15 billion making it one of the worlds wealthiest tax-exempt organisations.
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1:25 why does ROMAN Catholic Church remain tax exempt when it owes so much money to abuse victims. A business owner, farmer, contractor in Ireland requires a TAX CERT only obtainable if ones financial affairs are in order, why does church get special treatment plus government energy grants and grants to upgrade church properties although they also fundraise from the public. These priests and their fancy pals and advisors in the professions are milking it at every turn.
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The first sentence of this would say it all.
What type of organization
1. Claims not to keep records
2. Claims not to know how much dosh it’s got
3 Can’t give an account of its financial activities?
A criminal one, is the answer.
Each and every one of its little charities in the UK have to keep accounts of their assets which are in the public domain. I think the problem is the assets that aren’t declared anywhere.
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11:20 the RCC is a very secretive organisation displaying selective amnesia on extremely serious issues.
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11:20 the RCC is a very secretive organisation displaying selective amnesia on extremely serious issues.
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11:20 I don’t know how old you are or what country you live in but Google these 2 guys, they’ll open your innocent eyes for you as to what SOME can do without a bank account etc!
Bertie Ahern
Charlie Haughey
There are others but these 2 are a good place to start!
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Lol at 1:25am, that you think $10-15 billion is a lot of money. That’s much less than the entire Northern Ireland Executive annual budget.
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6:32 whats such a smart financially astute individual like yourself doing in the RCC, Father?? Wasted, so ya are??
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This timeline has a significant amount missing.
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Fill it in
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You’ve got your sources, but explore Valladolid
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Mt Melleray or Silverstream?
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Can someone remind me why Monsignor Mark Crisp is not to be named a bishop?
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Because he’s been mostly a desk priest who parish dodged for years on end?
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10:31 Parish dodging is not all its cracked up to be sometimes.
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The same reason as Mgr Cousins.
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He came from Guernsey, not IOW.
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J-PL (PB) even sat provocatively on the bishop’s throne. Phyllis is in deep trouble now, which could be a resignation moment for her. She was off her head or besotted to ordain PB J-PL. She may have even been compromised. If he could bed the Rector of Oscott, then why not a bishop? In any event, the whole thing stinks, and a proper investigation is required.
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That was Benedict’s throne, not an ordinary bishop’s throne.
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Or was it St JPII’s?
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A visitation conducted by Brendan Coffey seems appropriate in this case.
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A Coffey Visitation would be thorough. Thoroughly useless.
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1:22 Abbot Coffey won’t be going within a donkeys roar of this one. Once bitten twice shy and all that.
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I am sure Lyttle’s research was like that of Mons Tommaso Stenico of the Congregation of Clergy, who was just pretending to be gay. You know, to help the church get rid of people who actually are gay.
https://pridesource.com/article/27381/
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The spin at the time
https://the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-rector-for-oscott.html
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It is quite a story. Goodness.
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+Phylis and/or Ms Cooke may be… well, let’s just say, cumpromised in some way. Who knows.
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JPL, presumably.
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Who was the Oscott seminary rector who bedded JPL ? It’s currently Dolman, then before him Goward (who died soon after appointment) and before him Oakley (now + Northampton). That take us back between 7 and 10 years. Before that ? JPL will have been there about 12 years ago ? Just asking !!
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Crisp ?
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Crisp left / was moved on from Oscott in January 2013. Where was JPL at that time ?
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JPL’s gaydar doesn’t seem to be very accurate. He seems to hit on straight guys, who understandably get upset. If he confined himself to gay guys he might find himself in less trouble.
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As a priest, he shouldn’t be hitting on anyone ; that’s the moral baseline, like it or not.
If he insists on bucking it (most definitely, no vulgar pun intended), he should request laicisation forthwith.
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We’re only seeing the conquests which went wrong and He may have had loads of successful hits we don’t know about.
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10:52 2 obvious questions?
Why does he personally choose to remain as a Roman Catholic priest, he knew the rules before he signed up?
Why are his superiors aiding and abetting his deception and not acting on proven reports of his endangerment toward others.
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Wouldn’t it be more fruitful and kinder to now try to persuade some person – priest, bishop or close friend – to intervene in JPL’s life before any further damage is done to himself or others. Continuing to reveal personalised details will not work. I think we jnow sufficient to vobckyde that this priest is most unsuited to ministry. He has a pathology of dangerous emotional instability, low self awareness and seems headed on a pathway of self destruct. I sincerely hope that someone in authority is taking note immediately. This man urgently requires therapeutic intervention for his well being and potentially that of others. The tapestry being created is very unsavoury and it’s imperative that we put pressure on someone who can halt this priest’s slide into an abyss.
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‘He has a pathology of dangerous emotional instability, low self awareness’
Oh the irony of suggesting stopping revealing details of his life before giving your amateur opinion of his ‘pathology’. Were you actually qualified to decide his mental state you would not do so without assessing him and had you assessed him would not be able to reveal it here.
Self awareness, anyone?
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10.49: You’re not the brightest light, are you? I’ve studied enough psychology and counselling to read between the lines of narratives. I know a dangerous pathology of deep ingrained dysfunctionality by observation, words, information and errant behaviour. My clever 12 year old niece would have no difficulty in identifying Jill’s need for professional intervention! Why not you? Do you too lack self awareness?
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Martin at 2:01
‘I’ve studied enough psychology and counselling to read between the lines of narratives’
Thank you for admitting your superficial study of paperback psychology has made you think you can work out the psychology of complete strangers and give your false opinion publicly.
Have you tried palm reading or phrenology? They’d suit you down to the ground.
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Everything about the Roman Catholic Church is unsavoury, Martin.
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3.59: I was right. Not the brightest light. Are you? I said I have studied…ie: A degree in psychology and counselling. I leave fake stuff like palm reading to fools..Now, I won’t make an assessment of you just yet: I’d require more comments from you.
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A Message for JPL: JP, you will be aware that you are the object of much interest and comment at the moment. Your last few years will not have been settled and there will be a lot of uncertainty in your life at present. I believe the time has come for you to be given a few tough love truths, the main thrust of which is that it is clear that you do not have the ability to live life as a priest, as is currently required by the Church. I have no doubt that you have gifts that are valuable, perhaps a pastoral and charitable heart, but these are not confined to the priesthood, and you could use them in another role. So, the time has come, I believe, for you to move on. This will be good for you. At first it will be hard, but if you take the first step you will find that you will be able to find a way thereafter. And, hopefully, after a few years your will have found another vocation in which you can flourish, and in which you can live your life freely and honestly, without the constraints and requirements that priesthood requires. You will be able to hold you head high. Think about it, please, if only for your own wellbeing.
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Obviously, they’ve tried the chaplaincy route, e.g. dumping him on the NHS payroll. Perhaps he is holding out for a Rory Coyle type redundancy package.
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9.51: Your comment is very considerate, kind and compassionate. It’s very wise counsel for JPL. It stands in stark contrast to the vile, nasty, inhumane and very vulgar responses by weirdos on this blog. Your advice makes good sense and I hope JPL will read it, reflect on it and act accordingly. Vile commenters: take note!!
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6:13 Agreed, this blog is riddled with vile, nasty and inhumane individuals, sure what else would you expect, they are either clergy & laity of the internationally and formally recognised institution specialising in all manner of crime, corruption and human rights abuses = Roman Catholic Church or alternatively they have PTSD being victims and survivors tainted by RCC.
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Human males, like males of other primate species, aspire to reproduce abundantly. Unlike males of other species, however, human males are also persons, imaging God, and are inclined to exclusive personal union. This means that while men’s lower natures are instinctively triggered by fertile females, their higher personal natures seek faithful permanent commitment.
There’s the conundrum: an all-out war for chastity that’s within every human male — something that women can’t comprehend.
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9:53 You’ve never, er, ‘known’ a woman, have you? 😂
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Trawling past blogs and posting other people’s comments as if they are your own. Noted.
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9:54 catlicks are inherently dishonest, that’s what they do. Well spotted.
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Francis right about one thing. Beware of seminarians order hopping.. moving around from seminary to seminary. There is usually a reason.. Kilalloe picked up ex Redemptorist, De La Salle, Cistercian (in and out literally!) and an American diocese.. we can see how that worked out.. Glenstal doing it all the time and Dominicans..
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It rarely works out well. Vocations directors should be wary of retreads and should examine closely the reasons for a candidate’s departure from a previous seminary or order. Sean “King Puck” Jones was with the Pallotines before Kerry took him on, unwisely in my view.
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Herr Arnold of Salford is a retread – ex Rosminian
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Hi Pat, I see your friend Mr Luke James McConnell has made more claims that you and him arranged a meeting with a member of Sinn Fein and a group called Catholics against McConnell or CAMC as he likes to call them and both groups refused to meet you and him , can you verify this ?
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At Luke”s request, I emailed a Sinn Fein politician asking them to meet Luke. I did not get a reply.
I know nothing about CAMC and never planned to meet them .
Yesterday, in a phone call, I advised Luke to call off his “war” with others.
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Advise him to get rid of his sand boots, that are visiblevin every video, thanks to his poor filming skills. They are hideous and very unfashionable.
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This is not accurate, and much is missing here. I know, because I was there!
Also, Mark Crisp is a very good and decent man. A huge error here in your blog.
It was not the Rector who had intimate relations with JPL. Another member of staff perhaps, but absolutely not Mark Crisp. I know, I was there the night it happened
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Then please put us right.
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I think it unlikely that someone as gay as Mark Crisp would enforce the ruling by Benedict and subsequently reaffirmed by Francis that gay men should not be admitted to seminaries.
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There was a dubious priest who taught Hebrew at Oscott, but he was non-resident.
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A member of seminary staff, rector or whoever, who has intimate and sexual relations with a seminarian, even if they are both adults, is a very serious compromise and transgression of integrity and professionalism. I don’t know what the result was, but if the bishop knew about this, then it should have been something that was dealt with very seriously. Did he do that ? Okay, such relationships between adults might not be a police matter, but in any other professional / educational setting (such as a university) such a connection between a staff member and student would be viewed very dimly, and action would be taken. From what I remember of the Mickey Mouse set up that is Oscott, I doubt if they even have a policy about student / staff relationships !
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That member of staff in Oscott you refer to with JPL is now MIA. Oakley holds the secrets.
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Was it the Vice Rectory Ray??
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Mgr Mark Crisp is as fey as a rainbow in a handbag. Here he talks about deciding who should or should not be a priest.
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The interviewer is a schoolboy and he talks to him like he’s a simpleton.
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No, he didn’t. He spoke to the boy on his level, which is a mark of respect and maturity.
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Crisp went to the VEC at 18 and then left before ordination. Some years after, he went to Oscott to finish his formation and was very friends with Canon Mervyn ‘camp as a row of tents’ Towers.
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Who is this guy to judge who becomes a priest? Only God judges we are taught from the Vatican! It sickens me that guys like this can decide on who can or cannot become priest.
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You are talking baloney. I have listened to the video. I bet your not as manly as your name.
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“Manly Mark” is an ironic name for My Lord Crisp.
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Ah so the rector Oscott isn’t Oakley or Dolman it’s the other guy – Goward who died – what did he die off?
Mark Crisp is as camp as a row of tents Oscott must have been agony!!
Why he hasn’t yet been made a bishop is anyone’s guess.
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Crisp was J-PLs Rector. Goward died in office and so was not moved on. Well, not by his bishop, at least.
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He died of a Wednesday I think or maybe a Friday
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Giles Goward had an inoperable and terminal brain tumour. He was a nice and witty man and lived his last months with humour and dignity. He really was one of the good ones, and I think would have been a good rector of Oscott if he had been given the chance.
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I am sorry to hear that news about Fr Giles. I met him on a retreat at Downside and he seemed quite humble RIP.
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1:20 that’s sad, may Fr Giles rest in peace.
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Anyone remember Malachy Fivey from Enniskillen, who was in Oscott in the 1980s?
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Are you invited to Noel Treanors celebration mass today and his farewell dinner on Tuesday Bishop Buckley?
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No
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Would you like to join me in a peaceful protest outside the church? I will be there at 2pm, all are welcome
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What do you want? Treanor out?
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11:19am Who are you? Can you guarantee protest will be peaceful? There are laws about these things you know. How do we know you are not a troublemaker trying to make blog look bad? Some bloggers and whistleblowers are already being deliberately misrepresented by those with vested interests within church.
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Pat, do you know a Brandon Buckley? He’s a 16-year-old Dubliner who sells trainers online and has a shop in Abbey Street, Dublin.
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12:30 are you from a small little place in the Irish countryside where they imagine and while away the hours imagining that everyone with the same surname are related to each other. There’s a show on telly this week if ye get Sky down the sticks all about the perils of inbreeding.
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3.49
You are easily triggered.
Did I once unknowingly queue-jump you? Or do you just enjoy sucking lemons: being passive-aggressive?
No, I didn’t imagine that Pat and Brandon ‘are related’, otherwise I shouldn’t have asked as much at 12.30. You’d have understood this sense as well had your passive-aggressiveness not not led you to misunderstand a perfectly clear post.
There is a story behind the question, which I should have told had Pat answered. A pity.
Now on to higher things (and, one hopes, better company).
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John Paul Lyttle was more scary than attractive at Oscott with his hippy hair.He took a proto seminarian to bed the night before his interview who has recently resurfaced in Shrewsbury Diocese after all these years as Mark Davies’ latest protege . Shrewsbury’s house of formation is producing some real crazies
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My brother has came out as gay at 73, would you even bother?
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I said yesterday that I thought he had been to Wonersh Seminary.
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Pat have you been briefed yet about the scandal that is about to emerge in Armagh or should I say Tyrone. Eamon is not happy and he is now busy trying to avoid Brady in public because he doesn’t eant to associated with him. The wounded healer is now a bad smell that most want to run away from and avoid at all costs. Eamon wants prior warning now if Brady is attending events so he can make an excuse not to attend.
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Brady didn’t show up in Rome for the papal funeral. He is even persona non grata there now. Both Martins got in on the act in Rome. Watch your man Gillespie in Raphoe for D&C, his Rome days and brown nose have set him up well for a diocese.
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4.30: If you’re a cleric you obviously have little to do. It was proper for Archbishops Diarmuid Martin and Eamon Martin to be present along with Archbishop Farrell. Why not? Cardinal Brady didn’t need to be there. Take your fiction elsewhere, Fr….
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5.58pm. Why should Dermo be at it and the Wounded Healer should not be at it? Both are retired and, as a cardinal, WH outranks Amy, DLF and Dermo.
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Gillespie yawn. He’s the real life Father Stone. Utterly devoid of personality and monotone. An absolute yes man. The only entertaining thing he ever did was fall down the stairs off the pulpit in Letterkenny Cathedral a few years ago 🤣
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Cardinal Brady was unwell over Christmas. Have some respect
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You have some imagination.
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https://youtu.be/1xqrxgKE1yE
Watch from 1hr 19 for the notice of the Bishop’s visit.
Awful liturgy, with a Chris Tomlin CD for worship songs and a Joyce Meyer style sermon.
Cn Cooke does not stick to the words of the Missal and is an actor on a stage. Not Catholic and yet is in charge of prospective seminarians
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Terrible that they should do that. A lot of RC churches pretend to be Christian churches like that.
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That’s all Divine Rennovation crap which appeals to the gay clergy especially Steven Language
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2.43: You poor sod. This is criticism for the sake of criticism…Utterly irrelevant and unctious.
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Can’t be doing with the Evo praise songs. He preached for 14 minutes (!), plus a mini-homily at the start and the end.
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What a performance! This clown is responsible for promoting priest vocations for Portsmouth??? What is Egan thinking?? Make it up as you go along Eucharistic Prayer number 9. Why do people turn up for this crap? It’s a POOOOOR performance at that!
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When I saw those awful, ubiquitous green felt banners, my heart sank.
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The RCC would ordain a trained monkey if it thought the monkey could make them money.
Maybe that’s not being fair to monkeys tho
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Was Father Lyons grooming JP?
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4.10: No. Don’t be ridiculous.
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Has the Building Hope programme in the Dublin diocese hit a stone wall or is it about to be resurrected for the Lenthen season?
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It has crashed and burned. Car wreck from the start
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It’s like the Renew programme that CMOC had in A&B and then in Westminster. Cost a fortune, was the great hope, and then fizzled out, with no benefit arising despite all the time and effort devoted to it.
Noel Treanor had a similar scheme in D&C, again with nothing to show for it. It keeps people busy, gives a few jobs to diocesan office staff and makes the bishops feel that they are doing something.
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It’s not grooming if it’s wanted and enjoyed
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It’s wooing, then?
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No matter what age – if it’s wanted – it’s legit
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Did Tom Wintle, the ex-vicar, persevere as a seminarian for the Archdiocese of Birmingham?
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no
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Oscott has huge secrets with McDonald, Clare, Crisp Oakley and the ex spiritual directors. A total web and scandal covered up. Don’t forget Hope as a product of this den of iniquity. Some are MIA now.
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Diocesan clergy are not as intelligent as Religious Order clergy.
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Richard Purcell for example……
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Brendan “Galaxy Brain” Coffey O.S.B. 🤣
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Are all your trolls at Treanors last mass?
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Did you have a nice supper Pat?
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Just cooking and having it.
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What are you having Pat? I live on my own so I just had a packet of noodles, yummy though I love them
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I had chicken curry, rice, and chips. Spent a fair bit of time later on the ‘Seat of Wisdom’. 😣
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I wish the world was a nice place, it’s so pretty and we are ruining it
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Have you seen the Whitney movie? It’s so good, the actress may not look anything like her, but her voice and impersonation of her are stunning. Not a bad watch. Up there with Bohemian Rhapsody and Rocket Man. I would love to see one by the same producers for Michael Jackson
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The less we see of Mr Jackson, even if impersonated on celluloid, very much the better. 😕
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It’s still a depiction of a major player and life in world history – no matter what our personal views on him
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She was very good, I think some of her performances was actually better than the original Whitney. Star in the making
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I love this blog when it’s a nice chit chat Pat. It brings the best out in you. You are a great listener and interacter. Soft Pat is my kind of Pat.
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Mr Buckley, forgive me for not giving your title as I don’t recognise the church you are independent from.
I come to your blog from a recommendation from an Irish colleague and I really enjoy the many perspective you offer.
Fascinating
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Is that the well known Mr Vialli from Porstmouth (not) .
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Evening Pat, have you ever been to Amsterdam? Would you recommend it and if so, what would you recommend there? I’m there next month.
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Gillespie hates you Pat in Raphoe. He has told us privately he doesn’t want your name mentioned in his company. Do you have history with him or a run in?
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Gillespie is a notorious bore. He has the personality of a table or any other inanimate piece of furniture. Eamonn Kelly (Lugs’ best mate) was the Adm before him and was a great guy. McGuckian moved him on as he was a late vocation with too much personality and no academic credentials. Gillespie is a boring yes man who suits the deep thinking Bishop by helping facilitate the the whole Celtic Spirituality. Yawn….
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Gillespie watch this space, he is the sort of ‘yes man’ to get a pointy hat. He is a big friend of Tighe when in Rome. Jobs for the boys.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI
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Kevin (Gillespie) is promised a diocese by Francis and widely known and discussed. in Raphoe. He wasn’t sent to the likes of Balintra or Killybegs for nothing.
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What about Sir Coll / bishop
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I feel an inevitable sorrow for JP Lyttle. His parents packed him off as a youngster to live with Granny. He then falls under the influence of a notorious paedophile priest who attempts to get him drunk and molest him. He then seeks refuge in Holy Mother Church, but there is no recognition that he has already been badly damaged. Things go on a downward trajectory as he moves from diocese to diocese, religious order to order, no doubt singing Evita’s ‘another suitcase in another hall’ looking for happiness which always seems to allude to him, and constant rejection. He realises he has good looks and finds escapism in sexual relationships, which he craves. His need for the affirmation and esteem which sex seems to have for him becomes so much that it becomes addictive and abusive as he misreads friendship for something more. His life is so out of control that he has a terrible accident and almost dies. At that point, a massive intervention to help him was needed, but the opportunity was missed. He finds himself in seminary again, and those charged with his formation confuse him further by having sex with him. Eventually, he finds a bishop to ordain him secretly, and the problems with sex, booze and drugs persist. Think back to the boy that was sent to live with Granny, and all those opportunities by his ‘Mother’ church which were missed. If Phyliss is to be a real ‘Father’ in Christ to him, then he needs to provide him with massive help and support to enable him to find a new way of living outside of ministry. In a way, this is possibly the last chance to help him.
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Reply to;Sorrowsays:
Jan 15, 2023 at 8:25 pm
How odd! We were both thinking along the same lines regarding this young man JPL, and, contacting Pat at almost the same time.
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8.25: Your comments are very useful. I’ve thought and expressed similar myself. There were red flags flying brightly about the need for someone to intervene in JPL’s life years ago. Someone who has exhibited this kind of behaviour is in need of professional caring. While it’s easy to make and poke fun at this man and abuse him more by horrible, nasty, ugly invective, a more compassionate response would be more fruitful and beneficial to him. There are layers of issues re: JPL but subjecting him to the judgment of the nastiness of this blog will not ever rehabilitate him. He should not be the focus of fun or mockery just because he’s a priest. Thank you “Sorrow” for your expression of kindness.
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@8.25 pm
Well written with good points. It does seem clear that JP Lyttle is extremely unsettled. Do we know at what age he went to live with his Granny and why. He was possibly traumatised before he went to live with her.
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This is an honest and compassionate account of JPL’s situation and personality. Yes, he definitely needs help, not to remain as a priest (for which he is psycho-sexual-emotional character is unsuited), but to find a path that will bring him some resolution and calm in his life. One key person in this is + Egan, and he must exercise compassionate yet realistic wisdom and help in order to aid JPL and help him to move on.
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Bishop Pat, do you know Miriam Margolyes? I was at her stand up comedy show a while back and she joked (in a nice way) about a naughty RC bishop that got thrown out in NI because he dared to speak.
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Miriam is getting a bad reputation for a dirty mouth. There regular reports in the newspapers about her swearing. It is time she grew up and cleaned her mouth out.
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7:02 Yet when the clergy get a bad reputation for prolific child abuse y’all tell us we’re being unfair. 😂
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Pat, have you considered this young man’s previous traumatic life threatening head injury? It is quite possible that part of his disinhibition, and (mis)behaviour are connected with this injury. Maybe that’s why the church hierarchy are holding on/supporting him.
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A review of social disinhibition after traumatic brain injury
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2)BRAIN INJURY
17.01.2020
Disinhibition: Losing Social Filters after Brain Injury
Hokman Wong
By Hokman Wong
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I vey rarely agree with what you write. However, as far as JPL goes you are spot on. He has had a few traumatic experiences in his life that very few of us experience. The head injury etc. I had not thought of any of that. Thank you for that.
Perhaps Bishop Egan in his own way is trying to help JPL. Perhaps some who are on MIA are being helped by there bishops.
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Sooo… his conscience is rendered dysfunctional, too? He no longer can tell moral right from wrong?
Bullshit!
Your bleeding-heart embrace of Lyttle’s vile (and criminal?) behaviour, must make him smile at your utter, childish credulity. It certainly makes me think very highly of you. Berk.
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Most MIA and c/o are being assisted by bishops/dioceses, it would seem. This is mostly because of the medieval feudal relationship that exists between bishop and priest, and enshrined in Canon Law. It is exacerbated by the personal economy of priests who are almost totally reliant on the bishop / diocese / parish which means that a priest rarely has any financial autonomy / independence. The result is that priests who are out of ministry for a reason which makes them MIA or c/o or suspended will be financially and materially dependent on the bishop / diocese for many years. In any other walk of life, this would not be the case. Once a matter is resolved, the person concerned is let go and does not remain with connections to the institution / organisation. The arrangement between bishop / diocese and MIA and c/o is not healthy for either party. It perpetuates a dependence on the part of priests and continues almost indefinitely the liability of the bishop / diocese. Even when a priest has been imprisoned and laicised, you will find that continuing support is given to that priest by a bishop / diocese. This is crazy, but is camouflaged by a narrative of Christian charity. My view is that, firstly, the personal economy of priests should be made clearer and more concrete, for example by the payment of salary and pension rights, then they would have an autonomy that would enable them to move on. Secondly, for the sake of all concerned in these matters cutting the ties should be brought about as soon as possible so that there is clarity in the relationship, or it is clear that the relationship has come to an end. Of course, for a bishop and diocese this would be expensive and it would loosen the ties between bishop and priest and give priests more independence and autonomy, which is not something a bishop used to those things and to control of his priests would want. In essence, it would mean that a priest who is MIA or c/o and is inactive in ministry, should be let go, and their upkeep moved to the arena where millions of other citizens exist already, accessing social housing, State pension (where applicable), Universal Credit etc, and even the labour of their own hands where they are healthy enough to do so. Life would not be luxurious, but they would be independent, and their situation would be clear. It helps nobody that things are kept opaque and vague, with no consistency, and with nobody really knowing what is happening to a priest who is ministerially inactive because of being MIA or c/o. Harsh, I know, but necessary for the sake of all.
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No harm to Portsmouth Diocese, but the house they’ve stuck JP in looks like one of the “before” properties on the popular BBC1 daytime show, ‘Homes Under the Hammer’.
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Is the Canon putting on a pious face for show in this photo? It’s obviously staged (seems to be one of a set of set up pics – a photo shoot no less!). Looks less pious and more squeezing out a little excess gas, no?
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I see that Portsmouth is a gay hotspot, according to the latest census. It must be all the sailors and priests.
https://twitter.com/hwallop/status/1611320638890991617?t=XxEaCxWMfi78hJuqZIwA7Q&s=19
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