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H&N – BYRNE – SEX PARTY AT CATHEDRAL DURING LOCKDOWN.

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It is good to see that the massive  BISHOP ROBERT BYRNE that first saw the light of day on this Blog has now hit the mainstream media – and hit it with a BANG !

The media is anxious to point out that there is no suggestion that Byrne was at the sex party.

I would not be so sure.

My clerical friends in the UK tell me that Byrne would, in the past, at least, have had no problems attending very gay. “parties.”

I have no doubt whatever that  BOBBY BYRNE is a very close friend of our Dorothy’s. In fact, I would say he is the aboriginal friend of Dorothy.

He is also a member of the Oratory Congregation – a well-known religious refuge for odd, gay gentlemen.

His appointment as bishop of H&N was another nail in the coffin of papal infallibility.

He was made a bishop in the hysterical fog following the canonization of John Henry Newman.

Byrne should never have been a bishop.

He has no native intelligence, no sense of judgement, no presence, and no leadership qualities.

Now, he may very well find himself dismissed from the episcopal or even clerical state.

Robert – pride comes before a fall.

168 replies on “H&N – BYRNE – SEX PARTY AT CATHEDRAL DURING LOCKDOWN.”

This won’t be the first time Robert has had complaints made against him. They would do well to look at his file in the provost’s desk in Oxford. It would make very interesting readying.

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@12.37 pm
Never mind, go and make yourself a nice cup of tea with two lumps of sugar and then you will feel better.

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The likes of Robert Byrne and Tom Deenihan should never have been appointed to episcopal office. The Dicastery for Bishops must also investigate Tom Deenihan’s mishandling of Silverstream and his morally reprehensible treatment of Dom Benedict Andersen, the true Prior of Silverstream.

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Well Done Bishop Pat
On exposing yet another tacky, shameful cleric busily endangering the public with the full support of the RC Mafia.

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At last – praise the Lord. Prayers are being answered to bring the Truth to Light. Most parishioners are blinkered though. Basically they do not want to know nor support those who are & have been abuse survivors and victims. The RC public have a right to know this. Many thanks for link. I was unaware of the level of publicity now. I pray for parishioners fighting to ensure this is not brushed under the carpet. ✝️🙏🙏🙏✝️

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When I read this article today from another source I felt such anger. If this is true – and it’s appearing that way – this man should never have been consecrated as a Bishop. It’s an awful indictment of this man and all who attended a party during lockdown. Politicians all over the place were forced to resign for attending parties during lockdown. Now this man has brought the Church, priesthood and his tenure as Bishop into a deeper moral and spiritual abyss. There needs to be a full accounting for this party and heads shiukd roll. Considering the spotlight in the clerical sexual abuse scandals and church cover ups for the past 30 years, it’s incomprehensible that any cleric or cathedral worker would contemplate
disreputable behaviour of any kind so wilfully. Moral shame on all of them. The fuller story about goings on at this cathedral are horrifying. May God forgive those who are responsible.

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Just wait till you hear about the bishops’ approach to child abuse over decades. You’re going to be so cross.

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But, there’s nothing to say that Byrne attended these parties or even knew about them. At least until well after the fact. It was McCoy who was organising them. Read the article, carefully, and then you might get your facts right ! Bobby Byrne has had to move on for other reasons, perhaps including his management of the fall out when he knew about these parties. But, he definitely was not a party to these parties !

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11:18 Abbot Richard Purcell certainly knows how to throw a memorable party. Some clerics still wish they didn’t remember.

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Truth is no one knows the facts. They are just Chinese whispers that get more distorted as they get past on.
The Canon was suffering from severe mental health problems which in the end resulted in him hanging himself alone in a B & B. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone
I will welcome a full investigation. The truth will out. Hopefully the real culprits will be outed

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McCoy must have had a screw loose if he invited ‘parishioners’ to a sex party in the clergy quarters of H&N cathedral and thought that somehow it would not come out. It sounds as though he was also involved in some other questionable stuff, such that the police became involved, then his unfortunate suicide. Bobby Byrne’s personal involvement in all of this looks limited, but his managerial / safeguarding role may well have been seriously lacking. However, I suspect that this in itself would not have been enough for Bobby to be pushed in to resigning. I think there is something else, probably centred on his own behaviour with someone or something, that finally saw him pushed. All in all, it is pretty serious and very sad that H&N has to suffer all this stuff and publicity. And where is + Bobby these days ? Any sightings ? His Cong Orat mates will be very protective, so I imagine he’s been whisked off to one of their places and is being kept out of sight and sound. More time for prayer, then….. !

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11:40 what about the mental health problems inflicted on victims by nasty clergy and their crooked cousins.

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It also has to be mentioned that perpetrators of horrendous crimes also take their own lives simply to avoid being held to account.
Just look at the likes of Hitler.

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+ Tom was in Drogheda today presiding over the opening of a new convent for the Franciscan nuns. Cost the people of Drogheda 200,000 – a fortune! Do they know ? Simple lives me arse ! Tom loves the nuns. He is a big nun !

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12.10: Lies…The Franciscan Sisters have huge American financial backing. They are a very good order of Sisters. The local people may have made contributions but the American money built the convent. Your ignorant slur on the Bishop shows that your brain is deep up your backside. I presume you’re past infancy and childhood!!! Probably not.

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‘I presume you’re past infancy and childhood!!! Probably not.’
Why are you presuming something then saying it isn’t probable? Not very logical.
And we could do without the playground bully shouting of backside.
Very immature and foolish.

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Wow it’s hit the fan good and proper for Byrne former auxiliary of Birmingham and now former bishop of H&N.
He hat it coming – he was and a jumped up little Hitler – but who appointed him – how come he even made a Terna – he’s definitely a Friend of Dorothy and Of the Parish but sex parties and getting the police in is all very dizzying.
What’s the story with him replacing Ant or Decs brother with that Dean fella who went on to top himself?
What’s Byrne got for Tim Gardiner – the hots?
My God Birmingham is a shite diocese it sure spreads its muck far and wide – Byrne was their gift to H&N!!
What a shit show – if he laicised won’t that be a cause for celebration.

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You are full of “What’s”. What have Ant and Dec got to do with any of this? Let Fr. Donnelly rest in peace. You have been pulled up before on this.

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Wonder what the Birmingham Auxiliaries both current and past think of this scandal – it doesn’t reflect on them or the quality of men appointed from Birmingham
Conry – Birmingham
Byrne – Birmingham auxiliary
Birmingham has a whiff of sulphur about it – something of the dark and night.

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Just one point – the only way you’d think John Henry Newman a saint would be in a hysterical fog, so it seems the fog preceded the canonisation.

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1 – what part does the lack of prayer of the post 1946 church have in the chain of causations?
2 – the previous bishop was from in house in H&N though from Co. Mayo
3 – why didn’t any of the various deans want to preside at KOB’s funeral (who was from in house in Edinburgh though from Co. Antrim)?

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If KSC couples babysat 60 or 70 years ago, are new movements being founded nowadays to try and survey the effects? New movements seem to have a heavy sociology / psychology accent and relate to members in a rather ad hominem fashion.

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The Oratorians in England got their biggest boost when Pope Benedict met Pushkin the Birmingham Oratory cat, it got more coverage than St John Henry getting canonised. I’ve been told by a diocesan safeguarding officer that kiddy fiddlers hate cats because they can’t be controlled, so if a priest, monastery or clerical institution has a cat they’re probably OK. Any evidence to the contrary? Anyway cats have been popular in monasteries and among clerics from early days, and one of the reasons is because they are invulnerable to sexual assault or persuasion -which is why they are the only female animal allowed on Mount Athos. The historical sexual problem there has been goats. Preoccupations with zoophilia do feature in the monastic literature, for good reason; for example, the nunnery of Santa Bibiana in Rome was suppressed by the pope in 1439 for alleged donkey bothering apparently, although probably black magic also had something to do with it (the latter definitely at the nunnery San Ciriaco on the Corso, which was shut down four years earlier and demolished -no donkeys there, it was in the centre of the city).

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‘if a priest, monastery or clerical institution has a cat they’re probably OK. Any evidence to the contrary?’
Tell us you don’t understand evidence or how kiddy fiddlers or religious communities work in a few sentences.

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Confirm that the grasp of what you read gets a bit wobbly when the level in the whiskey bottle drops below the label. I was quoting someone else’s comment, not expressing my own views.

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When I lived in a religious community, I had a dog, and all the old boys were nice to it. It gave them something to be nice to. Because they certainly were not nice to each other. Hated each other mostly. A pile of angry, embittered, frustrated men thrown together and living down to the lowest common denominator and continuously playing out their frustrations and anger on themselves and each other. What a shite hole. No wonder I got out.

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They’d probably rather be nice to the dog to stress to the other religious that they could be nice but chose not to be.

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11:25. Well done on getting out.
It’s dog eat dog even more so now in recent years.

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I can’t see the Vatican taking such serious action against Byrne, Pat. It would be a massive public admission that the papacy, far from being infallible, is capable of monumental cock-up.
Pride does come before a fall, but I don’t think the Vatican has any intention of tripping itself up so publicly.

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What?! You think the ‘decent’ people and priests of H&N didn’t already know all this through the grapevine? Grow up.

These ‘decent’ people are all complicit for supporting this s**thouse.

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Wait until all the partygoers start getting blood clots and need a blood transfusion. Will they choose blood from the vaxxed or unvaxxed?

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I just spat my coffee out – an aboriginal friend of Dorothy! Poor old tubby Billy Bunter looks like he is heading towards dismissal from the clerical state. What a scandal and reported in their favourite right-wing paper too.

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Bishop Pat can you not see it ? What was Bunter’s relationship
with the Nuncio ? It this also part of a falling out of two people
who were more than close ?

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What I find incredible is not a single communication from the diocese on this to the faithful. Still offering mass intentions for Bishop Byrne.
Why is it taking 2 years to appoint a new bishop! Perhaps to avoid further scrutiny.

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You forgot to mention that Robert Byrne is also very, very lazy. He loves his bed, and his siesta. Oh, he can talk the talk, and will sound as though he is engaged and is going to push things forward. But, then nothing happens. He was awful when in Brum, and I think Longley was delighted when he was kicked upstairs. I guess he will settle in to some genteel Oratorian life, saying Mass, reading the newspapers, lunching, siesta, a little light walking, tea, and then a quiet evening before back to bed. With the odd foray out to the Royal Opera House for some cultural diversion. Nice life if you can get it.

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Does anybody know where Byrne is?
In bidding?
Brazening it out?
Enjoying the attention and notoriety?
Hanging head in sham, sackcloth. ashes, mea culpa, I doubt it.

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What with Matus? The Great Dame of Canal Street! It’s hardly conducive towards his rehabilitation – or is he an outpatient of St Luke’s Manchester?

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Wonder what Longley thinks – didn’t he consecrate him at St Chads – he’s very much a Birmingham priest.
Will he be welcomed back to Birmingham like the prodigal or become persona non grata?

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Yes! Thank you! I definitely had someone showing they don’t understand how this works on my bingo card for today. Hint: there’s something very wrong with your comment.

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I think Longley and Bryne had a conversation about him coming back to Brum, and I think Longley said he could quietly reside in Birmingham, but could not do any ministry or anything publicly until the investigation had taken place and then a decision could be made. To all intents and purposes, Byrne has been suspended.

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Well done, Bishop Pat, for breaking the news of Bishop Billy Bunter’s disgrace. If you hadn’t, the RCC would have attempted to sweep it under the carpet, and there would have been no investigation.

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There is also the possibility it may have been a Sex Toy Party, similar to a Tupperware demonstration. A host, in this case, a priest, for example, or a nun, shows off various sexual pieces, anywhere from simple lube to giant dildos, that will later be for sale. The event is held for social purposes and contains games and prizes usually.

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A new low to read about a priest attempting to lure mass goers to a priest sex party. And they wonder why the only people in the pews are those benefitting in various ways from their membership of this abusive cult.

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How is this lower than the prolific child rape we know about over decades? For example more than one Fort Augustus monk pressing the altar boy’s face into his crotch while celebrating mass?
I’d call inviting adults to a sex party, a distinct improvement.

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I wonder if Birmingham knew more than they are letting on about Byrne – we’re they distraught that they were losing such a fine bishop, a true pastor of souls or were they skipping and dancing to see the back of him.
Wasn’t he close to Bill Kenney (‘You know what I mean.’) and a co auxiliary bishop.
I bet Birmingham will play the card of he’s a religious he’s not one of ours and role out the Petrine Position- ‘I do not know the man’

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When are y’all going to catch on that the core business of the church is money, sex and power? Anyone not invited to the orgies is part of the cover story.

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Nazir Afzal, OBE,
“Our job is to audit and review safeguarding in Catholic Church bodies. We are now active in a Safeguarding Review in the Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle. The Review is fully supported by the Most Reverend Malcolm McMahon (Apostolic Administrator for the Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle and Archbishop of Liverpool) and we appreciate his commitment to safeguarding.
“Naturally, we cannot yet speak to the detail of investigatory work which is ongoing, but there should be no doubt that we will leave no stone unturned to when it comes to keeping people safe, and this includes investigating the safeguarding culture in Hexham and Newcastle.”

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“The Oratory Congregation – a well-known religious refuge for odd, gay gentlemen.” Good description. Nice Paul Crevasse and his infatuation with a young man, officially non-sexual non-genital, of course ! The disappeared Birmingham Three in order to get them out of the way before Benedict visited. What had they done ? Makes you wonder ? The disappearing reappearing Fr Daniel. What really happened there ? Even Newman and Ambrose and their intense friendship and sharing a grave. I just wish they would be honest about it all, and not be so paranoid that they have to go all moralistic and orthodox about all these things. And judgemental about people who are more honest about themselves and who they are. It is the way the vast majority of Oratorians are. ‘Fess up ! Then they would be more authentic and have more integrity. Rather than hiding, denying, transferring – well, we are not fooled.

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Rumour has it that the ‘Birmingham Four’, including the late Dermot Fenlon, were unhappy about having a gay provost in the person of Paul Chavasse. The end result of the turmoil and unplesantness was Ignatius ‘Bubbles of Bondai’ Harrison appointed provost – plus ca change…

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Frs Guy Nichols and Anton Guziel of the Birmingham Oratory are manly priests, full red blooded testosterone-fueled, heterosexuals.

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Guy has been rusticated to look after his elderly mother and no longer livesat the Birmingham Oratory. I think it was just a ruse to get a nasty, toxic, divisive individual out of the community. He was just too much for them even ! Anton loves his fedora hat and long cashmere coat as he marches purposefully and manfully down the Hagley Road to Morrisons !! I thought he would be more of a Waitrose man really ? Anyhow, the Cong Orat chappies at the Oratory on the Hagley Road provide a little bit of colour and light relief around the place. As long as you don’t take them too seriously.

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Well, they ain’t going to find anybody in an Oratory who is not as camp as Christmas, indigenously Dorothian, and gay as a goose. Are they ?

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It doesn’t surprise me that they’ve rusticated Guy. He always seemed somewhat toxic and snobbish. I am amazed Anton managed to get in. He is from a Wolverhampton Polish working-class family. His old, shall we say ‘peasant’ ways sometimes slip out, as seen in his visits to Morrisons, where he hunts for the reduced food with yellow stickers. He is the Hyacinth Bucket of the clerical world but harmless and has a pastoral heart. He was the priest who visited the Navvy weekly with no family in England and conducted his funeral alone and which made the national press.

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Bunter’s disgrace is worldwide now!
Vaticano investiga “festa de sexo” na catedral de Newcastle.

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Bet you any money that everyone is dropping in on this blog today – so the word on the street is Byrne is in Manchester – makes sense he’s from there anyway isn’t he.

How do you think he’s feeling?

What’s his state of mind?

Wonder what Elsie and Nursie think?

Bloody hell what a cock uo after ICCSA and all – so embarrassing- imagine the Dean of any cathedral not inviting you to a genteel coffee morning after Mass but a Sex Party!!

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Yes, they are. Usually preceded by a lavish dinner and fine wines. I went to one once and fount it very unsavory. A lot of clergy enjoy being pigs and most are bots.

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Yes, precisely. This is not what Nichols or Longley or any of the others want to see in the headlines so soon after the excoriating filleting of them by IICSA. Even if the timelines look at bit wonky. It’s the optics, the headlines, and perception that count. I suspect that this will be the last nail in Nichols’ coffin, probably Longley’s as well, and Rome will be wanting to get the old guard who presided over all this imbroglio out pretty soon. Then to put in a new guard, God help them. Where they will get anybody of quality I do not know. Anyone worth their salt will avoid such poisoned chalices like the plague, and so they will end up with the third rate (eg Collins of EA). I suspect even Cockroche won’t fancy coming back to this mess and will be quite content to stay in Rome and fiddle around with the liturgy. The fact that the H&N business has gone to rat shit, and it was on Nichols’ and Longley’s watch, McMahon’s even, the focus will come to rest on them as the ‘responsabili’. Byrne will be sidelined and airbrushed out, but the blame will come to rest with the seniors currently in the E&W hierarchy. If they knew what was going on they should have acted, if they didn’t know what was going on they damned well should have known. It’s called leadership. They will not come out of this well. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen…..

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An investigation should be carried on bishops and clergy who have ‘intense relationships’ because it comprises them and clouds their judgement.

No one challenged Conry and he would flaunt his special friendships by attending meetings holding hands with his new beau.

Elsie and Carmel is hugely problematic and he makes a complete tit of himself as he consults her about everything and is weirdly submissive around her.

Nursie and Dominic is getting embarrassing and tongues are beginning to wag – clearly has a soft spot for his live in facttotum who surely should be running a parish by now not being Nursies Nurse!!

The list is long and the problem of intense relationship is ongoing and a real threat to objective pastoral care of the whole of Gods people not just the chose ones.

Eddie Clare and Tim Menezes used to be inseparable but Richard Walker has stepped in since Eddie flounced off.

The optics are poor and everyone knows the culture of droit du seigneur is rampant in Catholic circles also known as Catholic cliques.

Byrne had a thing for McCoy and Gardiner – he liked his men twisted and compromised- power you see, Tubby Byrne is addicted to power.

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Eddie Clare – I’m not sure he flounced off, I think he was suspended for something or other, probably some inappropriateness. Just like John Gilbert, and many others about the diocese. Longley and Dominic – are becoming a bit of a joke about the place. Some sort of odd dynamic going on there. Nichols and Carmel – has been on the go for decades, and no doubt they will go off in to retirement soon together. Remember the caravan incident when he was in Brum ? I doubt if Carmel will be heading back to the Selly Park motherhouse. Conry – was shocking, and they all knew. Why did they not do something ?

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@12.14pm It’s clear since early morning that you are a recipient of the Johnson fund dear and clearly disgruntled. The problem is you didn’t speak out at the time during Maurice and Vincent’s time.

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Why would he be disgruntled, if he’s receiving the nice Johnson Fund money ? It’s a nice little earner. Until maybe Longley gets his hands on the fund, as has been reported. Birmingham has money, is quite comfortable, but just doesn’t know how to run itself. The soft underbelly will be the retired priests and they will go for them first. Fact

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Well somebody on Twitter informed Damian Thompson that Pat was the source for these reports. Bit of cheek of Ma Pepinster to hawk the story to the Sunday Times without acknowleding Pat as the one who broke the story.

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12.25pm
Very well out if I may say so – indeed Elsie and Longley look like damaged goods and hopeless at Safeguarding or judging character.
Longley had Quigley and now Byrne what a fiasco and be sure the powers that be are watching carefully but the optics of uttter incompetence is glaring.
Imagine Longley being in Birmingham for another 10 years cuz he ain’t going anywhere.
Elsie is bound to piss off once he votes in the next Conclave then and only then will he clear his desk.
Anyone but Stock and Wilson but honestly a poison chalice and Birmingham is virtually a criminal organisation given its preponderance for some shit deadly child abusers – hard core as far as I can tell.

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When priests become bishops, are they not excardinated from their order or old diocese and incardinated into their new diocese.

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And yet keep their letters after their name.
The only relevant religious bishop I know of to this is Mark Jabalé who has retired back to his abbey.
I don’t think it’s true they’re incardinated into their new diocese for religious at least although no doubt they could be.
Given the last Oratorian bishop was centuries ago probably nobody knows the sitch with Byrne and his case will appear in canon law textbooks for centuries. 😜

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Campbell , an Augustinian and Emeritus of Lancaster, went back to his order in Hammersmith on retirement

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If Bishop Billy Bunter is a under investigation for safeguarding issues he should not be living in the Oratory presbytery attached to St Chad’s, Manchester. A normal priest would not be allowed to do so – so why should he? Can’t they pack him off to a convent?

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What was Bunny Longley’s intentions as auxiliary taking a senior altar server Paul out to be wined and dined? He argued at the time with a Westminster priest that his intentions were purely innocent when he was challenged.

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Yes indeed. Bunny was challenged by Ft Michael Daley. Bunny did wine and dine the senior altar server in Westminster.

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Paul Clubb wasn’t innocent by any stretch. He was an extremely manipulative man who used sex as a power game. I can show you the scars.

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12.33am

Oh that’s interesting about Eddie Clare and a whiff of something‘ ‘inappropriate’ as my God have they worked hard to keep this under wraps. Seriously though one day Director of Maryvale the next gone forever, even the priesthood and now lives in France. What the feck is that all about and in ‘inappropriate’ what kind – is Eddie of the Parish or a Friend of Dorothy?

Ha ha ha I know Bernard and Dominic like two love birds – quite sweet really but where can it lead?

Gilbert -was there a whiff of scandal around him certainty a whiff of sulphur.

Oh do tell – better out than in and the Omertà shtick is just so passé.

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Eddie in France ? Don’t think so. About Brum and West Midlands as far as is known. Not sure what the inappropriateness was. I don’t think he’s Dorothean in persuasion. Gilbert ? Probably anger or some kind. Incandescent. Never trained properly. And led to think he was some kind of special case. Yes, Bernard and Dominic, so sweet, isn’t it ? Oh, there is so much more. But moderated Omertà is indicated. It keeps the story going and giving. Where would we be without a daily tittle tattle and something to lighten up the day ?

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Pat who was the priest in the early noughties that was continuously being arrested for having sex in forests. The police informed the bishops and they turned a blind eye and it continued.

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What about MgrCousins and his live in housekeeper Barbara in Sutton Coldfield. A pompous Canon Lawyer prick. He held cocoa de bournville’s secrets.

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12:44 Well of course Newman would be dear to you, he is the patron saint of touchy old queens after all.

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Two bastards (men is not what they are) are to finally stand trial for the abhorrent murder of Lyra McKee and not before time. We really ought to bring death penalty back in this land.

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1.30pm

Oh your so right – the drip drip is so much fun and look at that so keen are Birmingham to divest themselves of ooor Eddie Clare that they’ve definitely out it out there that he’s in France. So back in UK not the USSR.
Oh OK not Of the Parish but something amiss and maybe an inappropriate overreach shall we say. But why leave completely seems so extreme and him so young.
Gilbert what a Nazi he was – a little black moustache and he’d be a ringer for the Furher and such a loud faux laugh masking his seething resentment.
Bernard and Dominic a match made in Gay Heaven Bless.
Thanks four edifying comments I agree tittle tattle brightens up one’s day perfectly.

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@1.46pm John could have been perceived as a little Hitler in Brum. The Canon Lawyers like Cousins, Bede and Ray were equally so.

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Cousins is in retirement, Bede in prison, and Ray struggling with ingrained depression. And John now MIA. What’s wrong with the place, or rather what is it about priesthood the produces such sad and sorry stories ?

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Eddie Clare the obese Vocations Director? He used to fall asleep during his own Masses and snore he must have had something wrong with his sleep patterns. He had been a businessman before the English College, he came into some cash and then gave it all up to live in France never to be mentioned again

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He may have come in to cash, he may have moved to France. But, he had to leave Maryvale, pronto. If it was of his own volition and he wanted to move to a better life in France, then he wouldn’t be so disappeared. He’s not heard of because he has been suspended, is MIA, is c/o and is still listed as priest of the Brum Archdiocese. Circles within circles…

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quote 12:22 [BBC time]
Church is for worship not gyrating – Zambia Catholic bishop
Kennedy Gondwe
BBC News, Lusaka
A Catholic bishop in northern Zambia has urged his congregants to avoid “gyrating” too much during mass because such dancing may encourage other people to sin.
Ndola Bishop Benjamin Phiri says he is concerned about the manner in which some worshippers dance during Mass.
He has called for regulation and self-control on how people express themselves in church.
“The dancing part of the church should be regulated. It should constitute worship. The dance and rhythm that we have in a pub should be different from the one that we have in the church, otherwise in the end, the two will become one,” he said.
He said singing and dancing in church was not for entertainment purposes and should be different from the dance in pubs and nightclubs, state-owned Zambia Daily newspaper reported over the weekend.
“Do not gyrate too much because at the end of the day, someone will start admiring the other and then, they will end up having thoughts which are not of worship,” he added.
Bishop Phiri said liturgy in church should not be turned into entertainment because the church was meant for worship. unquote

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In case anyone considering a priestly or religious vocation is reading this: be aware that this blog is an accurate reflection of clerical culture and the comments here are how your colleagues would normally talk about you. With details of your best features if you’re a looker.

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Gregory Winterton was a first class priest and pastor. Not remotely interested in the current frippery and had banned birettas from the Oratory. Ignatius Harrison had him put in an old folks home.

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Oratorians just used to be ordinary priests and Gregory Winterton reflected that. It was only that they became young fogeys and very very gay after the council. In this of course they reflect the rest of the so-called trad movement.

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Oratorians in England were never ordinary. They still blackball new entrants, like members of gentlemen’s clubs do.

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Why is hot sex such a taboo subject? It’s a basic human want/need and it is the most enjoyable and pleasurable experience. Why any man vows celibacy is completely baffling. The priest hood as we know it should be recognised as a severe mental health illness

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Bishop Pat, Elsie has had quite a few letters about Monty in Northwood recently. A bit of a bully, lace and latin madam. He had a drunken episode in the parish recently. Vin has said in the past he was only providing the rope in regards to Monty.

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Patsy, I wonder if you’re familiar with the geography of Newcastle? I don’t see any reason why a gay sex party needed to take place at the cathedral when there’s a perfectly good gay sauna a stone’s throw away and a swinger’s club just across the road. As for drag queens, there’s a whole strip of gay bars practically across the road. I’m glad I was never invited to Bobby’s bum sessions, I’ll stick with the dark room and the glory holes, thanks. If you ever find yourself in Newcastle you know where to go now…

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Yep, Monty is clearing out the Northwood parish. Lots of old timers have moved on elsewhere. All because of the above. The boy needs to reign himself in or the wrath of Elsie will be upon him. It’s one thing to give Monty the rope to hang himself, but in the meantime he’s going to ruin the parish.

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If Cousins has a live in girlfriend (Sunday Roast) doesn’t that conflict with Canon Law the fecking hypocrite.
Ah yeah plenty of Little Hitlers in Birmingham:
Cousins
Bede
Gilbert
Danny MChugh (feck he had it bad)
Last but not lest and take a bow that little inveigling scroat; David Palmer – true Prince of a man, such a gent – Birmingham should consider themselves Blessed.

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I just had a quick gawk at Monty’s newsletter in Northwood. I did hear rumblings he is a nightmare and that Aussie Sem at the Beda who kicked him down some stairs because of Monty’s unwelcome advances towards him. Monty is at pains to highlight on his newsletter the obligation to attend Sunday Mass has been lifted – in his eyes that means – cough up!!

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Mgr Hugh Bradley, VG Glasgow was besties with McCoy in Newcastle.
I do hope Hugh didn’t attend these cathedral house parties.
I would be very disappointed.

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We heard it here first! congratulations Bishop Pat. Im learning so much from this Blog. I had no idea PORTSMOUTH is in such a mess. Phil EGAN will be the next to be exposed. Something very wrong down south! I wonder if the Vatican will be investigating him soon? Looks as though they would be wise to!

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Anyone seen Canon John Cookes Mass yesterday? Worth a watch (its on YouTube) He’s waving flags around like he’s on strike with the teachers! HILARIOUS! The man is a joke. Is he still with his lady friend?

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Dirty feckers the lot of them.
Fair play Pat, you lead and the papers followed. You’ve exposed a whole rogues gallery and brought down a pile of bad guys.
Off now to Proteas Cafe for a nice cappucino

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Bernard Longley got much to answer for.
How is it that he allowed Robert to live at seminary. He also promoted active gay priest to bishops conference…

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I suspect this has caused discomfort among the bishops’ of England and Wales. It makes Conry’s philandering with women seem mild. However, who completes the terna for these appointments? Those completing the questionnaires sent to the nuncio must have been economical with the truth. I remember hearing that the staff at Oscott all received the questionnaires for Patrick Kelly at breakfast, and he was oblivious when he walked into the pransorium for breakfast. Seminary rectors are usually a safe bet, but that may not be the case after the revelations about a Rector of Oscott and PB JP Lyttle last week.

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@3.30pm Who is the Rector of Oscott you have in mind? Egan was not Rector. To whom, then, do you refer? This blog requires accuracy.

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Bishop Pat knows the answer, as does JPL, the former Rector and contemporaries of JPL. I am sure it will come out, as these things do.

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Yes, alas they do. Its the breakfast room used by the faculty. Maurice had it decorated with ghastly William Morris hand painted wallpaper.

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1) treat others fairly and respectfully;
2) be mindful of the authority we have and be careful not to abuse it;
3) be aware of how our words and behaviour can affect others;
4) remain patient and tolerant when encountering difficult situations;
5) act professionally and courteously, including under pressure, and avoid shouting or snapping;
6) aim to ensure that no one is exposed to any display of bias or prejudice;
7) build effective working relationships with and support your priests and diocesan staff;
8) be open to feedback if we have done something that may have caused discomfort or offence.

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Bishop Pat – it really is rotten that you are not credited with breaking this worldwide story. A lot of journalists will be earning from your efforts.

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4.45pm

Apparently no longer in France – business man my arse – apnoea I’d believe that and loads of money interesting wonder where from as he was an orphan doesn’t know who his parents were.
No great loss – oafish and easily offended, was vocation director what a joke.

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“They also serve who only stand and wait”.
Those words are quite comforting, not only to myself, but no doubt to other victims and survivors.
Bishop Pat, your blog has given great light and comfort to many who have been hurt and cast aside.
God bless you, Bishop Pat x

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Pat, This whole Newcastle thing is a complete sh**show. How many other diocese will soon be exposed to be in the same category

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Here is a copy of the letter sent by Malcolm McMahon, to clergy of Hexham and Newcastle, dated 19 January. (This letter in part of Public Domain).
–https://diocesehn.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Letter-from-Archbishop-McMahon-1901232.pdf

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