PAT SAYS
I am impressed by the apparent professionalism and speed of Malcolm McMahon’s investigation into Bobby Burns.
The terms of reference spelt out above are not something the public sees in an RCC investigation. Normally, the terms are secret.
The investigation is very wide-ranging and basically examines in detail, every little inch of Byrne’s life and activities.
At the same time, the police are investigating the alleged sexual assault of a priest by Byrne.
I hope the final report will be published and any censure of Robert Byrne will also be public.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
101 replies on “ARCHBISHOP MC MAHON PUBLISHES TERMS OF REFERENCE OF BYRNE INVESTIGATION.”
Pat, you once said this, or its like: that you, for personal reasons, were more, rather than less, inclined to take people’s contrition at face value.
Some would call you… ‘gullible’?
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This is a step forward in the way the church investigates scandals. Time will tell if it lives up to expectations. I suspect Phylis will be next, but at least he confronted Nicholls on Cormac’s abuse.
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You have to wonder why this is being done in this case with the state of many dioceses and orders. This is known to the authorities yet it’s just brushed under the carpet.
Many of the posts here relate to dioceses/institutes in a terrible state where this is never done.
I will not be impressed until this is done routinely, dioceses are appraised and audited regularly, and visitations of religious houses aren’t limited to whether they’re doing anything like their statutes while they’re simultaneously shagging away.
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Glad an investigation is underway with a deadline of end of March.
We shall see what emerges – it only gets really interesting if police arrest and charge Byrne otherwise I will expect a whitewash or a cover up.
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The Dominican, Malcolm, wants to be seen to do all the right things when it suits him. What about the cover up in Nottingham? Isn’t it rather interesting that the Domincans, Radcliffe and White, both refused Mitres after they saw what it did to their own, Malcolm. Even Geraghty OP objected to our Malcolm’s appointment to Nottingham let alone Liverpool. Watch and learn, watch and learn.
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What cover up would that be in Nottingham? There hasn’t been one. Malcolm has been clear and transparent about all safeguarding issues.
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The cover up 1.24pm in Nottingham that began with that old Londonderry antiquated fossil McGuiness. He pretended not to be Irish.
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And a Derry Mc Guinness at that
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There hasn’t been a cover up in Nottingham Diocese in the past? There wasn’t a cover up in Hexham and Newcastle just recently.
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Tom Deenihan and Meath must be similarly investigated.
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This is very interesting. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. The final outcome will determine wider analysis of practices elsewhere.
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I think we all know and agree that Bobby Byrne has a lot of questions to answer, that he was not really the best man for the job, can be a bit of a presumptuous and arrogant prick, maybe allegedly has engaged in some inappropriate safeguarding behaviour in management and personally. BUT….I do hope that we can also find it within us to have some compassion for him as he faces these problems and the maelstrom around them. Without passing judgement, I hope that there are some people who are looking after him. There is nothing to be gain by just throwing him to the wolves and trashing him completely. Once the truth is known, and justice is done, his life still goes on and he is still entitled to learn, to live, and a chance at rehabilitation. We give those rights to everybody who gets in to trouble.
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He is being hung out to dry.
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Well maybe when you have stopped being so nasty about him. You might actually be able to see that he’s a good man and will do a good and through job.
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Reply to;Anonymoussays:
Jan 31, 2023 at 5:32 am
Mary Lou McDonald certainly doesn’t look starved, in fact she looks as if she might gorge a lot, the little dumpling…….
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Pat what do you think about Mary Lou McDonalds historical and now deleted tweets comparing homosexuals as “animals that should be locked up” and “repulsive to the point I can’t eat”? Have you much time for her?
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Ha! She has a damn cheek to call anyone an animal, and she hardly looks starving to me!
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Omg she should be sacked! If that were Boris he would be scrutinised for a century!
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He’s really trying so very hard to break the mould, isn’t he? McMahon. The traditional, sneaky, non-transparent way of categorically not dealing with such issues, but, instead, ignoring them under couldn’t-give-the-proverbial, Catholic hierarchical indifference?
Is this a conscience I see before me? It looks like a conscience, and I’m tempted to feel impressed, if you must know. Or (and here approaches the weary cynic in me) is it self-interest that merely LOOKS like conscience?
(Sigh) So much these days is deceptively faux, like priests’ professions of faith in Jesus Christ.
Just musin’, like.
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I’m worried about you. Sit down and have a cup of tea and you’ll see that even you can be taken in by appearances! We humans want to believe the best of other humans, it’s what keeps all scams going, from homeopathy to antivax to the Conservative Party, including this investigation.
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@ 6:22
Maybe its a combination of conscience, self interest and media attention to varying degrees? 🤔 Media attention can focus the mind.😊
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++Eamon must take notes of ++Malcolm’s investigation. ++Eamon will have to investigate Fr. Tom Deenihan’s ongoing persecution of Dom Benedict Andersen, the true Prior of Silverstream.
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You are so naive Patsy it’s unreal, you are taken in so easily.
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And you do not understand my strategies
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Your strategies always pay off…….long run the fox
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No
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9.03
That’s true, Pat. Echo Bela trots out a few slogans here but very little penetrates his cranium.
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@8:45am
I’d say the last thing Patsy is, is naive, hide and watch.
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The RCC are good at ticking boxes and okaying the game whilst at the same time doing nothing.
‘Everything must change for everything to remain the same.’
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Was Byrne made a bishop because they thought the optics of a Oratorians on an Ad Limina visit to Rome (Newman etc) looked good?
What part did Elsie play in his promotion?
Was Nursie glad to get rid and what did Birmingham know about how Byrne and his shambolic ways?
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1. Yes
2.Yes, he thought it a good idea.
3. Yes, Nurse was glad to get rid.
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Elsie played no part @9.19am, he is too clever for the likes of you and the rest. He never got there by being an eejit.
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I am exactly like you Bishop Buckley. I don’t fit into the lgbtq box at all. I am masculine and sporty. I also don’t have the same ‘issues’ or problems as trans people and feel as a gay man I should not be boxed into this category.
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lol
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Male, gay, masculine, sporty, doesn’t want to fit in – sure mate!
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Hang on, 9.24.By declaring yourself gay (forget about those other qualities), haven’t you already put yourself in the LGBT, etc box? By default?
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Well I’m straight. Does that mean I’m in the straight box?
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It’s a trick question, isn’t it, 3.43? G’wan! Admit it. You’re trying to make me look a complete d**k.
Of course you’re not in the straight box! 🙄 Cos there is none.😊 EVERY one is on the Spectrum. You just haven’t met (yet?) the bonny bloke of those sort of dreams. 😀
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4.29am
Don’t you worry your little head about Byrne he will be just fine and dandy and richly rewarded for his incompetence and let’s see, criminality.
Spare a thought rather for victims of his incompetence and pip squeak rudeness not to mention his sexuality inappropriate ways and suspicious company – Tim Gardener and Michael MCoy had a penchant for downloading images of children – Gardener had 5000 on his computer and McCoy cleaned his computer before his suicide – wonder why he did that?
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It’s easy to accuse someone of something when they’re not here to defend themselves. I understand that the police could have asked for the canons phone etc at anytime. But didn’t!
Also all of the canons possessions were still at the cathedral so i would imagine if there was anything to find then it would have been
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I would imagine Rory will not be letting PB JPL cover mass for him anymore
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Pat what inspired you to become a Priest? I am considering it myself but don’t know what route to take. I want to become a monk but what order would you recommend the most and what qualities do you think each order has to offer? Thanks
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He was inspired because he was abused – instead of sexually abusing children he chose adults
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9.38
I think you’d be better off joining a coven; more Christian. And Lucifer puts in the odd appearance, on special occasions like Walpurgis Eve. So, there’s no need for the struggles of faith and dark nights of the soul. The other way round, really. What you see is what you believe. Better than what you believe is what you’ll behold one day. Well, maybe.
He’s not the demon they paint him, Lord Lucifer, but his taste in liturgical dress does him no favours; suggests too much a whiff of sulphur and brimstone, and all this connotes in the popular mind.
No child abuse, though; an absolute no-no. Bad for business, he says. Just look at that lot across the road.
A word of warning : never call him Luci even for affectionate short. It’s… Just don’t; that’s all.
My coven has a vacancy, if you’re interested. After last week’s sacrifice, like. 😀
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9:38am”I’ve been kicked out. Dumped. Given the boot. Ditched. Stabbed in the back. Whatever. By Dom Michael, Abbot of Bolton Abbey, Co Kildare. Not, I hasten to add, because of something I did or did not do. But because … the Abbot of Mount Melleray, Co Waterford was – How shall I say? – ”
https://www.catholicrejects.com/
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Who was the Abbot who ordered this guy to cancel his book contracts and to stop publishing?
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9:01. Dom. Michael should count his blessings, there are many ways to do Gods work.
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Phonsie the foney
Loves a Boney
Protects a cronie
And needs to go-ney
Rides like a pony
And loves the monet
Ask him about Tony
And he’ll be in the zone-eh
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How many times will it take for ciaran Dallat to learn his mistakes
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9.53am Probably as long as your mistakes.
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Dallat? We call him lothario down here – manipulator
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You are alone Seaforde for your disdain for Fr Dallat. Refrain from ‘we’ because you are just a lone view. It’s like so many loonies on here trying to give the impression they speak for a whole parish.
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Every time I speak for the whole parish on here Father pops up and says I don’t give so nobody’s interested.
What I want to know is… Give what? 😱
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Interesting that Byrne doesn’t seem to involved in this process
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McMahon and her cronies are fully aware that their backs are to the wall. Damage limitation exercise. Nothing more, nothing less.
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The late Fr Joseph Marmion was protected by former headmaster, Fr Noel Barber amid credible allegations that schoolchildren were abused. Fr Barber did not report the allegations to the Irish police. Fr Barber told the inquiry that reporting the abuse to the gardai “did not arise in any conversation at the time”. An extract of the draft report read by Joe Duffy on Irish National television channel RTE revealed that Fr Barber “believed he was active in the interests of the institution in protecting it from scandal”
Your daily reminder that these abusive parasites put their cult before children, women and the vulnerable all the time every time.
Pro Life my A***.
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11.07pm
I agree about McMahon she’s got her back to the wall – he’s the Metropolitan isn’t he and Rome is watching her – he wants to piss off when he gets to 75 (next year) so doesn’t want to fall foul – look, it simple – the RCC cannot investigate itself / just as the Metropolitan Police can’t – yes tick boxes, go through the motions etc but do nothing – for everything to change, everything must stay the same.
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McMahon told his Scouser clergy in an Ad Clerum 2yrs ago not to communicate with Pat Buckley. Forked tongue??
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There’s a different rule for Bishops 😀
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2:50: Bishops are an unruly bunch so expect more investigations.
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What is Metropolitan and Rome to the family trying to eat and heat ffs.
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3.07pm
Well, Metropolitan, refers to McMahons ecclesiastical jurisdiction and Rome is where the Administrative centre of Catholicism resides in a statelet called the Vatican.
If I was trying to feed and heat my family I wouldn’t be too bothered but then again who is?
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Abuse Survivors Esther Barber and Mike Koplinka-Loehr will be in conversation with
Fr Hans Zollner, Director of the Safeguarding Institute of the Pontifical Gregorian University on two dates:
Virtual Presentation- March 2, 1pm CST
Discussion on Zoom- March 9, 7pm CST
Sign up to attend or receive a recording of the presentation at:
http://www.awakemilwaukee.org/courageous-conversations.
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11:47 Thank you for this link.
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They already know all of Byrne’s crimes so why bother? What can’t he just admit them and live a life of recollection far away. From any publicity.There’s a whole history of Byrne as a harasser. If he’s called into question then so is the whole system from the Hierarchy that appointed him twice over to Oscott Seminary where he insisted on living. Why isn’t Egan or Davis investigated too ?
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12.01pm
That’s interesting- Byrne insisted on living at Oscott!!! Alarm bells.
He’s known as a harasser – so they knew but still made him a bishop.
Nurse is compromised because he’s all lived up with his Dominic!! And Elsie has his Carmel – Phylis has her JPL and so on it goes.
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PORTSMOUTH needs this kind of investigation, too. There’s obviously some financial and Canonical abuse taking place. The relationship between Priest and Bishop appears to be damaged beyond much hope of repair (especially as the chief operating officer keeps poking her big nose in) and EGAN (a former Oscott formator) knowingly ordained a man struggling with dangerous issues who went on to attack at least 3 men that we know of. The ongoing cover-up and demands for secrecy and confidentiality is deeply concerning. PORTSMOUTH is in big trouble.
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Oscott College needs a torch shining on it. It seems Patrick Kelly seems the last good rector and the rot has set in since then. How some of the formators could be considered suitable is beyond a joke.
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Oscott with Pat Kelly lol, Kev McDonald, Eddie Clare, Giles Goward, Dave Oakley, Jesus wept over Jerusalem
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Dear Bishop Pat
Surely even McMahon doesn’t have the brass neck to accept the role of investigator into possible ecclesiastical misjudgements.
At Nottingham he organised a Diocesan Assembly with the usual more than satisfactory outcomes only on paper and deficit in the budget.
He shut down the Catholic School in Grimsby replacing it with something he called “faith school”. At an official event for that entity he was referred to as “Mr”, which for a Bishop is a bit like denying his faith and then disappeared to make way for another ex-rector of Oscott to be promoted to Nottingham.
One of his auxiliaries organised the Cilla Black Memorial Variety Performance which masqueraded as a Novus Ordo funeral.
Jolley was ordained in his Archdiocese.
What happened to the James Preston of Preston who was invited to become Oscott’s Spiritual Director (with benefits?) by the same Archbishop McMahon who is going to reveal all the wrongdoings of our friends up north.
It’s a common saying on this website but you “couldn’t make it up”.
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How long does Phil Egan have left in Portsmouth? I’ve known him for a long time and he’s a stubborn character, suffering from tunnel vision – utterly blinkered. Not one for taking advice. He must be able to see by now that if things are to improve in his diocese then he must make major changes? (And I’m not speaking about the kind of major changes he’s outlined in his 10 year plan!)
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Not long after judging the redness of his face. His blood pressure must be through the roof, and he is a prime candidate for a heart attack.
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Before too long all of these organisations and seminaries will fall under investigation if not by Rome then by the police.
And as for Oscott – it’s become a laughing stock, a by-word for all manner of shenanigans and carry on – no wonder Byrne was so keen to stay there.
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Oscott is inhabited by corpulent dullards who enjoy dressing up, gin and tonics, gossiping, and bedding one another; even a former Rector seems to have participated in all of that.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64457459
Bishop Dick Emery has his first paedophile priest to deal with. He talks about urgent legal advice to remove him from the clerical state, but why was he allowed to retire over 20 years ago when he was 50 and has not been in active ministry since. He should have been removed ages ago under Pope Benedict’s fast-track procedure for a priest who abandons after five years of absence and shows no signs of returning.
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A priest retiring at 50 is not normal. They must have known something, so a bit late to be removing him now from the clerical state. Was he allowed to ‘retire’ when they knew something was untoward?
https://www.rcdea.org.uk/retired-peterborough-priest-convicted-of-historic-abuse/
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Finbow was investigated in 2001 – why did Alan Hope not remove him from the clerical state then? Serious negligence and a breach of safeguarding.
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/22009973.priest-faces-church-probe-sex-claim/
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It seems PHYLIS is pushing people to breaking point. Then they’ll all erupt and spill the beans!! Will he back down or will he keep winding them all up?????
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When will anyone fully investigate the cesspit that is Down and Connor. Run by A truly horrible bunch of Nazis and staffed by the most unchristian bunch of priests. This diocese should be exposed for the fraud that it is. Christ is nowhere to be seen in Lisbreen .
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Who are the two belfast city centre based parish priests of different parishes rumoured to be VERY good friends?
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There’s a lot more to come out in Killaloe
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The show must go on! X
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This is what it says at very bottom of new CSSA website page:
Catholic Safeguarding Standards Agency is a
trading name of Catholic Standards Agency Ltd.
Registered in England & Wales
Company Reg 13182385
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6.05 Safeguarding? No such thing in Killaloe. Ms. Yates made a very big boo boo. Wait for it 🥳
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8:26
Who safeguards from those employed in Safeguarding!
Safeguarding is primarily a buffer to protect bishops.
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8:55 Everything clergy and their teams do is one major butt covering exercise apart from when they pop it through the boiler house curtain on a Saturday night.
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Are CSSA a viable first port of call for somebody who has already suffered horrendously at the hands of the RCC?
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A Catholic agency, paid for by the bishops, is NOT independent.
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Allan White OP pulled out of being appointed a bishop. Wise man, too clever and too humble for the job. McMahpn OP the total opposite.
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An investigation by the RCC into the RCC is by definition a whitewash and smokescreen and its findings will not be objective as it would be if they were investigated by an independent organisation.
Mind you Birmingham were investigated by St Barnardos which was like asking Jimmy Saville to investigate Garry Glitter.
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More and more churches present as legal entities with proactive and reactive policies being given the light of day. Where is the spiritual proactivity and reactivity. Unbroken empty eggshells are the many
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“There has been a liberal coup in the Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle. Deep down, we probably knew that there would be one from the day that Bishop Robert Byrne CO was appointed.
“There may or may not have been a lockdown-breaking social event at the Cathedral. If so, then it will have been nothing on the ones for which the then Prime Minister and the present Prime Minister had received fixed penalty notices. There was certainly no “sex party”. The allegation against the late Canon McCoy is false, and if there really is one at all against Bishop Byrne, then that, too, is a lie.
“Entertain no other possibility. Hold fast to these truths through “inquiries”, civil actions, financial settlements, criminal convictions, guilty pleas, the lot. For behind all of this is the shock troop unit of liberal enforcement, the Diocesan Safeguarding Office, a source that, at least under the regime then in place but I doubt that anything has changed, was not merely tainted, but Satanic. That is why I have no doubt that Canon McCoy committed suicide. It would have been considered too little fun to have murdered him. I can hear the cackling glee at having got inside his head and made him take his own life.”
Read the whole thing at https://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2023/01/soli-deo.html, all the way down to:
“Disregard the possibility that any of this may be genuine, and do not allow any development whatever to dissuade or distract you. Pray for the repose of the soul of Canon McCoy. Pray for Bishop Byrne. And console yourself that the Evil Ones may not be praying, but ought at least to be hoping, that there will be another liberal Pope after this ailing 86-year-old, because otherwise the Oxford Oratory would be as well-connected as it was possible to be, and there would be hell to pay for what they had done. As there should be.”
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This Lindsay? Nurse….
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18298972.lanchester-man-gives-evidence-poison-pen-letter-trial/
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Didn’t he stalk some famous people, including Damian Thompson?
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He was jailed.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19262308.blogger-jailed-repeated-online-harassment/
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Is Damian Thompson famous? Well, who would have thought?
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Y’all just love pretending to be victims dontcha. 😂
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JEAN VANIER BEGAN L’ARCHE TO COVER ABUSIVE ‘MYSTICAL-SEXUAL’ PRACTICES, FINDS REPORT
By Mitchell Atencio
Jan 30, 2023.
“A report released today concluded that Jean Vanier — a Catholic lay leader and founder of L’Arche, a worldwide network of communities supporting adults with intellectual disabilities — founded the first L’Arche community primarily as a cover for a secretive religious sect with exploitative “mystical-sexual” beliefs and practices. The report also found Vanier sexually exploited at least 25 nondisabled women from 1952 until just before his death in 2019, far more than previously known. According to the report, the sect used L’Arche as a “screen” to secretly reunite around their leader, Thomas Philippe, a Dominican priest who had previously been investigated and disciplined by Catholic authorities for his abuse and his manipulative theology.”
https://sojo.net/articles/jean-vanier-began-l-arche-cover-abusive-mystical-sexual-practices-finds-report
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8:35pm the daily reminder that women, children and vulnerable adults remain a key target for these wolves in sheeps clothing and their toxic cronies. Sneaky two faced cowards with criminal connections.
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Oh the irony of commissioning a report and having its key finding being that l’Arche was set up as a front.
I do keep saying that the RC ‘church’is a criminal organization running a pretend religion as a front.
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I always found Vanier’s writings snooty, disdainful and vague. In his writings it was clear he thought the disabled were rubbish. His books were repulsive and not inspiring.
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